Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 19, 2024
Media Claim “Hamas Rejects …” Deal That’s Not Offered

Axios claims that Hamas rejects a ceasefire deal with Israel:

Hamas rejects new U.S. proposal for Gaza hostage and ceasefire deal

The opener:

Hamas on Sunday rejected an updated U.S. proposal for a ceasefire and hostage deal in Gaza, blaming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for moving the goalposts and the U.S. for indulging him.

Seven paragraphs later we learn:

Zoom in: More specifically, Hamas objects to the fact that the proposal doesn't include a permanent ceasefire or comprehensive Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.

There is no ceasefire deal.

How then could Hamas reject a ceasefire deal?

There is only a potential agreement on a pause in the fighting to hand over to Israel the hostages it wants to retrieve.

Which is nothing anyone in the situation in Gaza could agree to.

Comments

Trolls, what are their motives? You choose if it’s worthwhile playing along or not. Consensus appears to be ignore and do not engage (feed).
Maybe issue a community service announcement if the urge is irresistible -cleanup @ post xyz.
“What goes on in the minds – and particularly in the “collective mind” – of populations is the critical factor that determines the success or decline of the strategy. This factor, the morale (as it is usually called), has always been manipulable, but today it’s especially so thanks to mass communications, that have made traditional forms of communication less effective. The ability to create mass psychosis, including mass hysteria, is now almost instantaneous due to the capacity for electronic peer-to-peer communication. All it takes is a little cognitive bias and immediately everything can change.” – SCF WW4 is already here.
“Cognitive warfare primarily targets the human mind, using techniques that manipulate the mind. It involves two key players: the perpetrator who launches the attacks and the citizens who are targeted. It uses techniques and technologies such as Artificial Intelligence (AI) to influence the mind. The idea of cognitive warfare can also be traced back to Sun Tzu, a Chinese military strategist from the 6th century. His idea of warfare was “breaking the enemy resistance without fighting.” This emphasises targeting the cognitive processes of the human mind to win a war, without engaging in a kinetic battle.” – Bhairabi Kashyap Deka is a Research Intern at the Observer Research Foundation

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 20 2024 5:51 utc | 101

From Reuters trying to write history
Blinken says Israel accepts Gaza proposal, urges Hamas to do same

Palestinian Islamist group Hamas has cast doubt on the chances of reaching a deal since talks in Qatar last week paused without a breakthrough.

Haven’t we been here before? As I read the details it sounds like a couple of steps back and no end to hostilities.
This is how civilization war sausage is made….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2024 6:09 utc | 102

Re: Ceasefire ?
There is no need for elaborate negotiations.
The International Community has already defined the terms of a ceasefire namely UNSC 2728 (March 2024) and the 3 ICJ rulings (Jan, Feb, April). The IDF needs to withdraw. The Likud needs to release its 10,000 Hostages. The Likud needs to allow full aid into Gaza. (Aka 500+ trucks/day)
The international community, in the guise of the latest ICJ AO, has also formally decided:
1) All Israeli settlers immediately withdraw from Territories occupied pre-1949
2) Payment for all damages since 1947 is required. ( aka reparations)
3) The Likud Gov’t runs an Apartheid State. This has implications for worldwide sanctions, etc.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2024 6:35 utc | 103

meanwhile back at the DNC genocide ranch
https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1825739025606390163
Prem Thakker @prem_thakker
Audience members at the DNC in Chicago unfurl banner that says “Stop arming Israel.”
After audience sees the banner, they begin chanting “We love Joe.”
Man tries to rip banner away.
Stadium lights over this spot then dimmed and banner was ripped away.
https://x.com/Lauren_Steiner/status/1825740120684699929
The Robust Opposition – FREE PALESTINE @Lauren_Steiner
Here’s the sign we made. We penetrated their tightly controlled, hermetically sealed Hollywood coronation show, despite them delisting and intimidating ceasefire delegates.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 20 2024 6:38 utc | 104

Post
Conversation
Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis
@DrLoupis
Elon Muslk (@elonmusk
) just forced me to delete the video of a Jewish rabbi saying that it is okay to rape a toddler, that the hymen will grow back.
It didn’t show any child!
The video had more than 4 million views!
Why are you protecting these pedophiles? @elonmusk
because they are Jewish?
https://x.com/DrLoupis/status/1825581014317404641

Posted by: Menz | Aug 20 2024 6:46 utc | 105

Khalissee
@Kahlissee
🚨⚡️BREAKING: Bassem Youssef’s X account is NO LONGER AVAILABLE!
His message was reaching people. This is what he said in one of his last posts on Antisemitism:
“Antisemitism was an accusation that used to freeze the blood on people’s veins. I see many people now realizing how this fear tactic is used to shutdown conversations and scare people. It’s been overused and abused in order to intimidate people . Are you still scared to be called an antisemite by those Zionists?
Vote and tell me in the comments . No I don’t give a shit anymore. Or: yes lam still scared”
What happened to Bassem Youssef?
https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1825654229366686187

Posted by: Menz | Aug 20 2024 6:47 utc | 106

Richard Medhurst
@richimedhurst
I was arrested at Heathrow Airport under the Terrorism Act, Sec 12 because of my reporting.
6 police officers were waiting for me at the entrance of the aircraft.
I was held for almost 24 hours and questioned.
I believe I’m the first journalist to be arrested under this provision of the Terrorism Act.
I feel that this is a political persecution and hampers my ability to work as a journalist.
https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1825663412904288585

Posted by: Menz | Aug 20 2024 6:47 utc | 107

Khalissee
@Kahlissee
It’s 33 degrees Celsius (91 Fahrenheit) in the West Bank, and they’re tearing the water pipes apart.
Israeli settler gangs are literally cutting off water lines belonging to Palestinian farmers with zero consequences
This is complete inhumanity from a sick society
https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1825628865928245688

Posted by: Menz | Aug 20 2024 6:48 utc | 108

ZAINABZEHRA🏴🇮🇷🇱🇧🇾🇪🇵🇸
@ZAINABALI_72
BREAKING
#HOUTHIS remain Undefeated !!
US admits its failure to stop houthis. They are puzzled, shocked by houthis target on 2 US warships only 2 hours later after US did 8 air strikes on houthis inside yeman
As i said days back houthis cant be defeated & now its happening🇾🇪✌️
https://x.com/ZAINABALI_72/status/1825578763494592676

Posted by: Menz | Aug 20 2024 6:49 utc | 109

African
@ali_naka
Tomorrow is 13 years after the fall of Tripoli!
Is Libya better today than it was 13 years ago?
https://x.com/ali_naka/status/1825484488740114664

Posted by: Menz | Aug 20 2024 7:08 utc | 110

I ve always wondered how Americans such as Trump and his ilk can support a socialist state such as Israel. Why not then calling for socialism at home?
The Declaration of Independence, Israel’s founding document, insisted that the state “will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race, or sex”
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/undoing-israel

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 20 2024 8:02 utc | 111

Meta owner of Fakebook and Grimgram [banned in Russia, recognized as extremist in Russia] bans The Craddle for telling the truth about the Genocide inflected upon innocent civilians by the ‘openly-declared’ annal gang rape IOF perpetrators in besieged Gaza.

Posted by: AI | Aug 20 2024 8:29 utc | 112

This No Peace Piece Plan by Bibi and Blinken is a knock-off from the Charlie Brown: Lucy And The Football comic strip.
Lucy invites Charlie Brown to kick the football she’s holding upright on the ground. Charlie declines the offer suspecting that Lucy will pull it away. She swears in the Spirit of Thanksgiving that it’s not a trick.
Charlie walks 25 yards away and races to kick the ball. And, just as his foot is about to contact the football, Lucy pulls it away and Charlie does an arse over tit backward somersault.
It’s a 90-second clip on youtube.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 20 2024 8:37 utc | 113

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/undoing-israel
Posted by: Minaa | Aug 20 2024 8:02 utc | 113
Israel is not socialist. It is one of the most unequal states on earth, not even counting the Palestinians.
Socialism means that workers own the means of production and organize labor to benefit all.
Otherwise, what you have is capitalism with or without a welfare state, depending on the country.

Posted by: JAB | Aug 20 2024 8:48 utc | 114

“…one of several facilities where Palestinians have been mistreated for decades….”
for DECADES
https://x.com/DanBilzerian/status/1825661619797635153
Dan Bilzerian @DanBilzerian
65% of Israelis don’t believe the soldiers who raped the Palestinian prisoners should be charged with a crime.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-prison-rape-no-criminal-charges
Majority of Israeli Jews believe prison rape suspects shouldn’t face criminal charges
65 percent believe army punishment is enough for reserve officers accused of sexual assault at Sde Teiman prison
…..On Sunday, the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) revealed that 65 percent of Israeli Jews thought that the five should be punished only by the army and not face criminal charges.
About 4,000 Palestinians have been detained from Gaza in Israel since the beginning of the war in Gaza in October. Most are detained and interrogated in the enclave, but many are brought to Sde Teiman, even if they are a non-combatant.
Torture, rape and murder have all been reported as rife at the facility, one of several facilities where Palestinians have been mistreated for decades…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 20 2024 8:59 utc | 115

Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2024 6:35 utc | 105
I agree with you. International law should be the basis for a ceasefire agreement.
There is no reason for the Gaza Palestinians to bargain away the rights they are entitled to under international law. The Palestinians haven’t sacrificed 200,000 of their people just to go back under Israel’s apartheid boot.

Posted by: Chas | Aug 20 2024 11:13 utc | 116

The Blinken proposal is DOA, time to move on…………

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 20 2024 11:47 utc | 117

@ Exile | Aug 20 2024 6:35 utc | 105
Excellent point. Should be repeated often, by everyone.

Posted by: teri | Aug 20 2024 12:30 utc | 118

Israel and it’s mafia (AIPAC/ADL) would care more, and benefit far more, about American politics (DNC convention) than Hamas,
so that makes the timing (hours before the DNC convention) of the bombing in Tel Aviv suspicious.
Also, who took credit? A Hamas website? Good luck with that.
It is war time, not a good time for coordinating the activities of an organization.
** Lines of communication would light up within Hamas to verify who, if anyone, did it and who ordered it. **
That is big.
A reason unto itself for Israel to have a false-flag (and one where only the bomber died). Get the Hamas leadership in Dubai to
open communication lines, so they can be observed.
Also, the Palestinians are trying for international support, such terrorist bombings does not help get international support.

Posted by: librul | Aug 20 2024 12:38 utc | 119

it would appear that it’s a dead end in Gaza, no ceasefire, only the armed resistance.
read the full message from Hamas to Hezbollah at the third link
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1825871011041980563
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
US President @JoeBiden said the ball is in #Hamas’s court, and @SecBlinken said @Netanyahu agreed to the plan, and we await Hamas’s response.
But Netanyahu denied that he had agreed to withdraw from Netzarim, to stop the war, or to withdraw from Gaza altogether.
Dead end.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1825901308483633506
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
The message of the Palestinian resistance is that it has reached an impasse with #Israel, that there is no hope for a ceasefire and that the only option is to continue armed resistance.
full text of message from Hamas to Hezbollah and the resistance in Arabic, at the link
part of it, translated, is here:
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1825878493139181698
“….This foolish, defeated enemy, drowning in the mud of Gaza, who begs its leadership every day to escape and be saved from the strikes of our Mujahideen and their ambushes that have turned the heads of the Zionist officers and soldiers white, how can it confront and fight you!!….
God willing, you and the rest of our brothers in the axis of resistance from Islamic Iran to Arab Syria, to proud Iraq, all the way to dear Yemen, which has engraved in Islamic and Arab history with blood and gunpowder the most wonderful meanings of belonging to Palestine and its cause. Today, O heroic mujahideen, it is time to advance towards opening the gate of Khaybar once again, and to work to eliminate “Israel” from existence…..”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 20 2024 16:05 utc | 120

Gaza War Sitrep Day 318, with Justin Podur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSK_tQz1mzY
“How Israel could have won.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 20 2024 17:27 utc | 121

Corrected url from above: Podur Sitrep Day 318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5K_tQz1mzY

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 20 2024 17:30 utc | 122

Richard Medhurst is a hero, fearlessly reporting on the genocide in Gaza.
His reward from the Trotskyite PM Sir Kier is arrest, political prosecution and repression.
This is what the Scott Ritter is now experiencing in the US, where his passport has been seized and the FBI Stasi have raided his home, all on orders of the Biden regime.
Kamy Harris will bring far more repression if elected, for sure. The Age of Political Repression is upon us………..in the EU and the US

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 20 2024 17:50 utc | 123

“The time has come, O’ heroic Mujahideen, to advance and open the gate of Khaybar once again and to work towards the eradication of “Israel” from existence.”
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/time-has-come-to-eradicate–israel—palestine-resistance-to
This open call of the Palestine Resistance in today’s letter to Hezbollah is what US/Israel have led to with the Apocalypse they have caused in Gaza and the West Bank, in Palestine, in this diseased world of ours.
The riders of the Apocalypse led by US/Israel need to be stopped. There is no other way.
The progressive forces of the world should unite and join this decisive battle for freedom and a decent human future.

Posted by: JB | Aug 20 2024 17:56 utc | 124

Troop Shortage – Israel Reenlists Reservists Excused from Duty

(excerpt)…. Israel’s Defense Minister Yoav Gallant issued his orders to the Israeli army to call back on duty the reservists released in the last few years due to a shortage of troops.
The move was justified in a statement issued by Gallant indicating that “in the light of the situation assessment and the scale of activity of regular and reserve forces and as part of the army’s plan to increase the number of soldiers in service.”
According to the statement Israel’s occupation army has already started contacting exempted reservists in what was described as “vital units” and are still within the eligible age for service…
…those who will be reenlisted “are those who were released from service due to personnel reductions and are younger than the exemption age, which is 40 for most soldiers, 45 for officers, and 49 for specialists.”…

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/troop-shortage-israel-reenlists-reservists-excused-from-duty/
Comment – conscripting 50 year olds. Hmmm

Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2024 18:11 utc | 125

Appears even Egypt is saying no thecthe squatters in the Philadelphia Corridor. I’m sure they won’t do a thing about it, but they are publicly now saying “no” to this “deal” as well.
USreal never wanted “peace” anyways. Just Blinken running around with his 2-face BS threatening his “last chance” garbage to all, even Egypt.
It won’t be long now.
Everyone will start firing on each other.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 20 2024 18:12 utc | 126

Tidbits from Palestine Chronicle live feed:
Wednesday, August 20, 6:00 pm (GMT+2)
NETANYAHU: We will not accept any proposal that ends the war in Gaza.
ISRAELI ARMY (cited in Channel 12): Our activity in Gaza may have killed the prisoners whose bodies we recovered.
Wednesday, August 20, 4:00 pm (GMT+2)
YEDIOTH AHRONOTH: Rats attack occupation soldiers and bite the nose and ear of two soldiers.
ISRAEL’S AMBASSADOR TO UN: In a TV interview, Gilad Erdan said that the UN building must be closed and wiped off the face of the earth.
AL-QASSAM BRIGADES: The Al-Qassam Brigades announced targeting a D-9 military bulldozer with an explosive device in the Tel Al-Sultan neighborhood, west of Rafah city.
AL-QUDS BRIGADES: We bombarded with mortar shells a gathering of enemy vehicles and soldiers who had penetrated the Al-Qarara area, northeast of Khan Yunis.
ISRAELI ARMY: The occupation announces the detection of about 80 rockets launched from southern Lebanon.
AL-QASSAM BRIGADES: We targeted a Zionist force entrenched inside a house with a TPG shell next to Al-Qadisiyah School.
AL-QASSAM BRIGADES: We targeted a Merkava tank with a 105 Al-Yassin shell west of Rafah.
AL-QASSAM BRIGADES: We targeted a Merkava tank with a 105 Al-Yassin shell west of Rafah.
Wednesday, August 20, 09:00 am (GMT+2)
ISRAELI ARMY: We monitored the launch of 55 rockets from southern Lebanon.
HEZBOLLAH: We attacked military sites in the Galilee and Golan.
AL-JAZEERA: A second batch of rockets was launched from southern Lebanon towards the Upper Galilee and the occupied Syrian Golan.
AL-JAZEERA: Air raid sirens are sounding in the Ortal settlement in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights, and in several areas in the Hula Valley near the border with Lebanon.
AL-JAZEERA: Sirens sounded in Bir’am and Doviv in the Upper Galilee, northern Israel.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2024 18:21 utc | 127

Doctor Eleven | Aug 19 2024 13:27 utc | 37
*** To be clear almost the entire Maerican administration are full-on war criminals. Their abhorrent backing of nazis in Ukraine is exceeded only by their aiding and abetting the genocide in Palestine.***
Plus their long running deployment and base-hosting of “IS” terrorists.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 20 2024 18:42 utc | 128

You understand Egypt’s carefulness when you see that with less than 7 million people, Libya is still at war.
Wealth is a curse.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/530444/World/Region/UN-says-Libya-deteriorating-;rapidly;.aspx

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 20 2024 20:12 utc | 129

His reward from the Trotskyite PM Sir Kier is arrest, political prosecution and repression.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 20 2024 17:50 utc | 125
______________________
PM Sir Kier is a communist revolutionary. That’s big news. Can you provide a link?

Posted by: Chas | Aug 20 2024 20:14 utc | 130

https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1825991532026998828
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
No Member State can or should recognise Israel’s presence in any of the oPt, especially in the wake of the ICJ’s Advisory Opinion that confirmed its illegality and requested Israel to dismantle it “completely” and “as rapidly as possible”. No recognition, no aid and no cooperation is what member states should offer Israel as long as it occupies the oPt. All the more while committing genocide.
#Egypt
#Rafah
#Philadelphi_corridor

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 20 2024 20:50 utc | 131

https://x.com/MyriamFrancoisC/status/1825948941265023312
Dr Myriam François @MyriamFrancoisC
Are we really throwing out the entire hard fought for global order – from international law to the sanctity of journalists or aid workers – for Israel to be able to continue its genocide?
Seriously. This is insanity.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 20 2024 21:22 utc | 132

Re fanto Aug 19, 22:23
I can’t find my prior comment so I will paraphrase and update: Questions are being asked as to who exactly is running the US at this time, since President Biden is essentially side lined, experiencing considerable cognitive fogginess and Vice President Harris is campaigning. Looking at the power structures, it would appear to be Klain, Mayorkas, Blinken, Sullivan and Hochstein and their affiliates. This would appear to be a never before occurring interregnum and with the crowning of Harris as a seemingly policy-free Presidential candidate, would appear to be the governing structure of choice for the Democratic party. Viewing this power structure within the framework of events in both the Ukraine and Israel, patterns appear that reflect nodes of association between players from all three countries. Not the least are concerted provocations from the proxy participants, the geopolitical strategic importance of IS/UKraine to US hegemonic goals as well as access and control over a range of energy sources and their transport. At the same time, such actions obviate B&R objectives from other players on the board.
All very speculative – just a hypothetical underlying pattern.

Posted by: abierno | Aug 20 2024 21:54 utc | 133

Posted by: Chas | Aug 20 2024 20:14 utc | 132
PM Sir Kier is a communist revolutionary. That’s big news. Can you provide a link?

Tobias Cole is a deconstructivist. In the posting you’re quoting, he is using the words “communist”, “Trotskyist” and “fascist” seemingly at random. What a clown.
This happens all the time but of course any sane person will listen at most once to such drivel.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 20 2024 22:18 utc | 134

Biden: “….A lot of innocent people are being killed, on both sides”
On Both Sides
anyone here old enough to remember President Jimmy Carter’s quote from decades ago, that during the Vietnam war
“Well, the destruction was mutual….”
Sure it was, Carter, go tell that to some of the 4-5 million dead Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians……
https://x.com/aaronjmate/status/1825930827898957864
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate
Biden and his aides workshopped talking points on how he could sound “empathetic”™️ while still facilitating Israeli mass murder. They settled on both-sidesing a genocide
https://x.com/JordanUhl/status/1825746871635292201
jordan @JordanUhl
Joe Biden on Gaza at the DNC: Those protesters out in the street, they have a point. A lot of innocent people are being killed, on both sides.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 20 2024 22:39 utc | 135

Tobias Cole 125
Britain’s Thatcherite PM.
There, fixed it for ya.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 21 2024 2:30 utc | 136

Like a Liberation Army – Resistance Roundup – Day 319

(excerpt)…The new tactics suggest that the Palestinian Resistance now behaves as a unified liberation army, as opposed to various Resistance groups that may coordinate but ultimately operate independently.
This phenomenon is more apparent in Rafah and Khan Yunis in southern Gaza, and Tel Al-Hawa neighborhood in Gaza City, though the tactic is used elsewhere.
A video shared by Palestinian resistance on Tuesday is a case in point. ….

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/like-a-liberation-army-resistance-roundup-day-319/
Comment: Southern Front. significant increase in activity. Northern Front, 12 strikes. The big military news in last 24 hours was the IDF announcing its now conscripting 49 year olds.
Merkava tally remains unchanged at 210 “destroyed”

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 5:01 utc | 137

Tobias Cole 125
Maybe your labelling of our Thatcherite British PM means that you see Europe’s fear of Internal Law , Geneva Convention etc as somehow preventing the full- bloodied, redneck , cowboy US Empire from conquering West Asia with its Israeli Nazi jackboot.
Have we upset you by allowing Russia to thwart your pagan desires in Syria and Ukraine, blocking fulfilment if
your imperial redneck US destiny.
Blinken is just an empty snail shell. Somebody’s already had his disgusting Nazi meat. You are now relishing the real deal Nazi cunts in Likud doing Imperialism as it should be done, with savagery, chutzpah and sexual humiliation. ???
Choose your weapons , pal. US trots got khinzals, nukes and Islam. All you got is Trump beauty bombs the mince the dead after their souls gave risen to Heaven.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 21 2024 5:44 utc | 138

https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1825758391408668742
Assal Rad @AssalRad
One side is a nuclear-armed state with advanced military, getting billions of dollars & weapons from the most powerful country in the world, carrying out a decades-long occupation, apartheid and currently committing genocide.
The other side is being slaughtered by the thousands.
jordan @JordanUhl
Joe Biden on Gaza at the DNC: Those protesters out in the street, they have a point. A lot of innocent people are being killed, on both sides.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 21 2024 6:09 utc | 139

So idf looking to recall 10k reservists. Might this suggest they’ve had 10k casualties? Or, perhaps, they now realize they need a bigger army? If so, is it for Hezbollah, Hamas or both? Either way it’s not a good sign.
What will the under 50 reservists do? Jump in or out? Will they be allowed on a plane? Will there be room, given just about the only option just now is el Al?
And the us armada… how long will they hang around waiting for the big one from Iran, which might be waiting for the new pres to settle in? Iran seems more patient than israel or bar flies.
Western elites seem to be getting comfortable with the genocide label, they ignore but don’t deny.

Posted by: John k | Aug 21 2024 6:17 utc | 140

136 Konami. Agree with your criticism what is a decostructivist in your application? Jacques Derrida would not have been confused by the words “communist. “fascist, or Trotskyist.” For that matter I have yet to see the word ‘Trotskyist’ used coherently on this thread. Maybe you would explain what it’s doing here. I don’t think Tobias Cole would be able to, even though his description of the present state of fascist repression in UK and US does make sense, if all the ‘epithets’ don’t.

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 21 2024 6:18 utc | 141

143 Lavieja. I don’t get time to clearly state my post. It was Supposed to say “I agree with your criticism, but what is a ‘deconstructivist’ in your application.” So many words begging for clear meaning.

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 21 2024 6:23 utc | 142

The big military news in last 24 hours was the IDF announcing its now conscripting 49 year olds.
Merkava tally remains unchanged at 210 “destroyed”
Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 5:01 utc | 139
Just like Ukraine. A predictor of failure if ever there was one. Gaza is a young population by contrast…
Would be nice to know the Narmer APC and bulldozer tally as well.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 21 2024 9:55 utc | 143

Thinking about this conflict in the mideast, the genocide in Palestine. The axis of resistance is holding back and rather than saying Iran should do this or Hezbollah should do that ect, I think about the reason behind this.
Russia China and the Iran centered axis of resistance are all in agreement that the US is the enemy to be defeated. Russia China and the Iran grouping I believe all discuss strategy, de-conflict and coordinate strategies.
I think Iran will strike in response to the recent assassination but it will be in line with this larger strategy.
But overall, I suspect that elements in the US, perhaps/no doubt along with the Israelis require a Pearl Harbour. The US requires a much larger volunteer army to go to war in the middle east.
Americans have a Pearl Harbor culture. In 99 in a senate hearing, there was something about requiring a Pearl Harbor to take Americans to war again. That was achieved with the destruction of the twin towers – bringing in large numbers to enlist.
Nutty invoked Pearl Harbor 9/11 on Oct 7 ….
Perhaps that will turn out not to be correct but just my thought at the moment on the situation there.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 10:27 utc | 144

….. Would be nice to know the Narmer APC and bulldozer tally as well.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 21 2024 9:55 utc | 1……
Arch – haven’t been keeping track of the APCs – however, since the IDF has dragged out of mothballs their ancient M113s, one can speculate that the Narmer APCs are in short supply. A few weeks ago, the resistance seemed to be ignoring MBTs and focusing on the APC/IFVs. It was grim seeing these lightly armored vehicles likely filled with Infrantry getting throughly destroyed….over and over again. Another tell on the APC question; is a few days ago combat footage showed 2 thin skinned vehicles with IDF scurrying about. A second incident captured on video was a column of thin skinned vehicles – 2 of which got wacked with Infrantry inside.
As for the D9 bulldozers, my guess is the half life of an IDF D9 bulldozer operator is measured in hours. The D9s are easy targets, a handful getting wacked every day.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 10:50 utc | 146

Re: Thin Skinned Vehicles
You don’t use un-armored thin skinned vehicles inside a heavily contested battlefield unless you are desperate .

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 10:53 utc | 147

Re: calling up 49 year old reservists
Note, these are not reservists. They were released from reservist duty a few years ago. Likely when they turned 40 or 45. They are only conscripting these 49 year olds if they are “specialists”
Re: does 10,000 new conscripts mean 10,000 casualties since 2.Oct ?
Correlation does not equal causation but ….

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 10:58 utc | 148

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 10:50 utc | 148 “since the IDF has dragged out of mothballs their ancient M113s”
The IDF may have activated some more M113’s, but M113’s have been operational all this time. The IDF has also been pulling other things out of the inactive stocks. That included 20mm AA equipment, likely after seeing what is going on in Ukraine, with an eye towards the north and things that might happen.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 21 2024 11:11 utc | 149

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 21 2024 6:18 utc | 143
136 Konami. Agree with your criticism what is a decostructivist in your application? Jacques Derrida would not have been confused by the words “communist. “fascist, or Trotskyist.”

Oh, I meant the current, on-purpose confusion of everything that’s sometimes goes under Postmodernism or Deconstruction. I know there’s a long history and that Derrida is not to blame for all the consequences.

For that matter I have yet to see the word ‘Trotskyist’ used coherently on this thread. Maybe you would explain what it’s doing here.

I can’t! “Trotkyism” seems to have been a code word for a long time. In my experience, it is often used when people need a stronger invective (or so they think) than just “socialist” or “communist”.
On the other hand, I’ve seen serious attempts at painting certain important neo-convervatives as former Trotskyists. This comes from a different angle, the one where Trotsky and his followers are seen as a divisionary force inside the communist bloc.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 21 2024 11:15 utc | 150

Whenever I see the term “deconstruction” in non-LitCrit writing, I can be sure it is being used incorrectly. Deconstruction is the uncovering of multiple and often conflicting meanings in a text, following from the inevitable instability of word meanings. It is neither “destruction” nor is it a Humpty Dumpty approach to language.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 21 2024 11:54 utc | 151

@Konami | Aug 20 2024 22:18 utc | 136
About using Trotsky at random
While deconstructivism in my opinion is just a part of undermining peoples thinking and understanding, I am not sure that way of characterising Trotsky is misplaced.
Trotsky was involved in encouraging the divison inside the USSR in order to make it easier for fascist Japan and Nazigermany to assist the anglosaxon imperialists in defeating the USSR.
Trotsky was always a stooge of the imperialists.
And the neocons acquire their influence by identifying with the interests of that empire.
Leo Strauss who some see as the father of neoconservatism argued that in order to avoid being tyrannised one should be the tyrant.
Strauss was the top-student of professor Carl Schmitt (member of the national socialists)
But Mathew Ehret has written about James Burnham
and Burnham appears to be the originator of neoconservatism
https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/01/16/the-life-of-james-burnham-from-trotskyism-to-italian-fascism-to-the-father-of-neo-conservatism/
Cynthia Chung provides another related article
https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/01/26/the-machiavellians-james-burnhams-fascist-italian-defenders-of-freedom/
Grover Furr (and Vladimir L. Bobrov, Sven-Eric Holmström) have provided documentation of Trotsky’s actions
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:Trotsky_and_the_Military_Conspiracy
“Leon Trotsky did his best to demonise Stalin – to accuse him of every conceivable crime, always without any evidence – in order to further his, Trotsky’s, own anti-Soviet conspiracies and his collaboration with Nazi Germany and militarist Japan, and with fascists, German spies, and his own followers within the Soviet Union.
After Stalin’s death Nikita Khrushchev falsely accused Stalin of many crimes in his famous “Secret Speech” to the XX Party Congress of 25 February 1956. Thanks to evidence from former Soviet archives we now know that all of Khrushchev’s accusations against Stalin in that speech are false, most of them deliberate lies.[11]”

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2024 12:21 utc | 152

@ Minaa | Aug 21 2024 10:49 utc | 147: Whose ship?
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Earlier, we reported that the United Kingdom’s Maritime Trade Operations said it received reports of a ship being hit with three unidentified projectiles some 77 nautical miles (143km) off the Yemeni port city of Hodeidah.
The organisation reports that the ship was hit a fourth time and that ship is currently adrift and unable to move. There is also a fire on board.
The company operating the ship reports that it is a Greek-flagged vessel under the name Sounion. – Al Jazeera
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Posted by: teri | Aug 21 2024 13:34 utc | 153

Teri
Greece or Panama?
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9949467

Posted by: Tom | Aug 21 2024 13:57 utc | 155

Re: IDF M113s
True Ed, IDF fighters always had a few ancient M113s active when genociding unarmed civilians on the West Bank.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 14:14 utc | 156

yet another good podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1dSkowsC1k

Posted by: Tom | Aug 21 2024 14:48 utc | 157

Interesting video by Syed Mahmud:
Hezbollah & Iran planning ground offensive:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTbjFHXqfU
Highlights:
1) States Iran currently in Russia for “Army Forum 12-14th”.
Acquiring and implementing “stealth” capabilities & tech advanced by Russia to their own drones.
(Timestamp: .58)
2) Iran sending subs into waters(?)
3) Iran continuing to add layered defenses to Nuke Plants
No fly zone over nuke plants still in place
4) Filmed showed joint Iran/Hezbollah training ground forces together (unverified he says, and maybe be “alternate” course of action).
(Timestamp 4:23)
5) Shows video of IRGC commander explaining how this response will be different. They will wait & “tools” will be different. (Timestamp 9:10)
Discusses the internal weaknesses exemplified in Israel. Internal strife, no one wants to “work”, not soldiers, not anyone. Desires US military to come in and do their “work”.
11 min video in total.
In examining this idea, I recalled the recent very heartfelt and thoughtful letter recently sent to Hezbollah by “The Palestinian Resistance”
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2179432
All beautiful letters, excerpts that caught my attention:
“Dear beloved brothers:
From the heart of Gaza, from the grinding confrontations and battles, from the dust of the fight, and from the heart of our steadfast and patient people, we send you these words in these decisive moments in the history of the nation, ***during which both near and far have let us down.***
This terrified enemy, as described by the esteemed Secretary-General His Eminence Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, may Allah protect him, as weaker than a spider’s web, stands today on the tips of its toes, consumed by fear and costly anticipation—of days, nights, and the battlefield. The enemy has miscalculated, and we are certain that you will fulfill your mission with great merit.”
Mainly:
“Today, brave fighters, the time has come to advance and reopen the gates of Khaybar, to work for the eradication of “Israel” from existence.”
Because I’ve no Islamic or Muslim knowledge, I was curious & I did appreciate reading the account of Khaybar and the gravity of the recollection and relevance of this battle.
All the letters in the thread were worth a read. But I also could not help but sense, that Gaza the Gaza resistance groups in the strip, and those pockets in West Bank, are beginning to wear down, and need land-ground assistance.
I’m certain through the tunnels they are rotated in and out, and added foot soldiers as trained and able. But guessing above ground resources (water, fuel, food) are becoming increasingly difficult to maintain resistance stability, as well as the every 12-18 hours of late being made to “re-locate”.
Believing the letters we a call for ground assistance.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 21 2024 16:58 utc | 158

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2024 12:21 utc | 154
Trotsky collaborating with Hitler. You’re out of your mind. Is this what MOA is coming to? No wonder Bevin left. At times like this I wish he would return.

Posted by: Chas | Aug 21 2024 17:19 utc | 159

@ Chas | Aug 21 2024 17:19 utc | 161
I imagine that “insight” was derived from one of the Holy Gospels of Lyndon LaRouche, although I’d be hard pressed to say which one.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 21 2024 17:35 utc | 160

https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1825954881460686977
Lowkey @Lowkey0nline
Israel’s largest arms company, Elbit Systems, has been forced to permanently vacate its site in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, by Palestine Action US and BDS Boston.
This is the first success of its kind in the United States.
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1826265122089918709
Hala Jaber @HalaJaber
BREAKING: Israel just bombed another school in #Gaza.
UNRWA’s Salah al-Din School targeted today, is the 10th centre housing displaced Palestinians, bombed by Israel this month. Reports & images of casualties, including women & children flooding to hospitals, emerging from Israel’s latest barbarity.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 21 2024 18:20 utc | 161

michaelj72,
Likud considers kindergarten teachers and school nurses khamas terrorists.
Likud also defines proportionate use of force as killing 20 civilians if 1 khamas terrorist is killed. 95% civvie ratio. If a khana battalion commander is targeted then Likud says proportionate use of force is 100 civvies killed z 99% civil ratio.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2024 18:52 utc | 162

161 Chas. I often have wondered where is bevin and wished for a post from him to dispel some of the ignorance that gets spewed here like #154 petersgrfstrm. I had thought maybe he was ill, but now I know he’d probably had enough of dealing with utter ignorance that refuses to learn anything.The education he offered this thread is sorely lost.

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 21 2024 22:09 utc | 163

A must read for all who are opposed the Zionist genocide in Gaza and the West Bank in Israel occupied Palatine.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/21/craig-murray-medhurst-the-right-to-armed-resistance/
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/21/watch-medhurst-speaks-to-cn-on-his-arrest/
The UK has already passed pro-fascist laws to shut down free speech in the UK. Will America be next?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 22:27 utc | 164

The Western world seems to be moving in the direction of Germany in the lead up to WW2 in Europe.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/21/caitlin-johnstone-democrats-mad-middle-east-platform/

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 22:37 utc | 165

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2024 12:21 utc | 154
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161 Chas. I often have wondered where is bevin and wished for a post from him to dispel some of the ignorance that gets spewed here like #154 petersgrfstrm. I had thought maybe he was ill, but now I know he’d probably had enough of dealing with utter ignorance that refuses to learn anything.The education he offered this thread is sorely lost.
Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 21 2024 22:09 utc | 165
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Lavieja, I am not seeing that much in petersgrfstrm comment @ #154 to disagree with. His views are a pro-Stalin perspective, if you are a Trotskyists, off course you will disagree. However, I was not aware that Bevin was a Trot. I just know that he has a good command of Marsist History, and History in general.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 22:58 utc | 166

With DNC Convention over, all “Ceasefire-Peace” talks have vanished as well.
What a coincidence. Quite the “show”. Headlines lining cat litter boxes now.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 22 2024 0:15 utc | 167

Just Meters Away – Resistance Roundup – Day 320

(excerpt)…The video showed the soldiers being clearly spotted in the window and balcony of the house before being bombarded with an anti-bunker and anti-personnel TPG canister.
The Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian Resistance Movement Hamas, released a video today showing an attack it carried out against Israeli occupation soldiers in the Tel Al-Sultan area, west of the city of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.
The video showed Qassam fighters destroying two Tiger troop carriers, one from the window of a house and the other on a street in a destroyed residential area.
Both operations were carried out from a very short distance of mere meters away.
The Al-Qassam fighters also targeted a house where an Israeli force was holed up. The video showed the soldiers being clearly spotted in the window and balcony of the house before being bombarded with an anti-bunker and anti-personnel TPG canister.
In the same video, Al-Qassam fighters were shown shelling the occupying forces with mortars from inside a house destroyed by the war.
Below are the latest statements by the two main Resistance forces in Gaza, and the Lebanese Resistance Movement Hezbollah. ….

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/just-meters-away-resistance-roundup-day-320/
Comments – Southern Front significant increase in activity. Al-Quds brigades no report Northern Front ditto with 13 strikes
Merkava tally remains unchanged at 210

Posted by: Exile | Aug 22 2024 0:48 utc | 168

168 Ed.re Petersgrftstrm 154 “Trotsky’s collaboration with Nazi Germany and militarized Japan and with fascists, German spies…”
I dont believe this, certainly not as an aspect of “Trotskyism” — maybe its a conclusion that might be wrangled from history of the period.
Imo the world could use some true internationalism right now as it falls deeper into barbarism. The only example of internationalism
could be drawn from Houthi help for Palestinians, not from Russian national interest, although rational in today’s capitalist world, certainly not an example of internationalism regarding the Palestinians. Socialism very weak presently and barbarism is winning.
Sounds simplistic I know
I doubt bevin is a “trot.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 22 2024 2:35 utc | 169

Lavieja correction.
“Sounds simplistic I know.”
“I much doubt bevin is a Trot.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 22 2024 2:45 utc | 170

154 petersgrftstrm. I now see in the red. Cited to the Grover Furr book “Trotsky and the Military Conspiracy” in which innocent Red Army officers were convicted of planning to murder Stalin. This affair is of course related to the American anti-communist indoctrination that every American is imbued with ever since the 30s that Stalin killed 20 million of his own people etc.etc. Trotsky is accused of playing an instrumental role in this affair. In light of the weight of the history of US anti-communist ideology, the question of Trotsky vs. Stalin takes on a significance about which I am not equipped to comment after all. I never paid much attention to this propaganda and was more interested in looking into research for a friends project of Stalin and the National Question (which remained unfinished anyway), so I now withdraw from this discussion which I dont know much about

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 22 2024 3:47 utc | 171

Lavieja. Posted above by accident so now must correct:
“I now see in the reference cited to the Furr book…”

Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 22 2024 3:52 utc | 172

“I much doubt bevin is a Trot.”
But obvious why he quit and is no longer a MoA “BarFly”

Posted by: Fred | Aug 22 2024 4:06 utc | 173

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2024 12:21 utc | 154
Trotsky collaborating with Hitler. You’re out of your mind. Is this what MOA is coming to? No wonder Bevin left. At times like this I wish he would return.
Posted by: Chas | Aug 21 2024 17:19 utc | 161
Christ almighty! So you seek to torture the guy Chas – that’s way too cruel.
RE – “You’re out of your mind. Is this what MOA is coming to?”
Yes and Yes.

Posted by: Fred | Aug 22 2024 4:10 utc | 174

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 21 2024 16:58 utc | 160
Video on Iran activities and plans. Tru, do you know any logical reason/s why Iran would be flagging their defenses etc to Israel ahead of time?

Posted by: Fred | Aug 22 2024 4:13 utc | 175

https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2024/08/22/republicans-kill-civilians-for-bad-guy-reasons-democrats-kill-civilians-for-nice-guy-reasons/
Republicans Kill Civilians For Bad Guy Reasons, Democrats Kill Civilians For Nice Guy Reasons
The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans will kill a million Palestinians and say they’re doing it so Jesus will come back, whereas Democrats will kill a million Palestinians while making noises with their mouths like “ceasefire” and “two-state solution”.
The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans will kill a million Palestinians and say they’re doing it so Jesus will come back, whereas Democrats will kill a million Palestinians while making noises with their mouths like “ceasefire” and “two-state solution”.
That’s basically it; one does an evil thing in an evil way, while the other does the same evil thing in a much more photogenic way. Republicans want to kill Muslims for evil reasons like claiming they’re all terrorists and irredeemable heathens, while Democrats want to kill Muslims for nice guy reasons like helping Israel defend itself and bringing peace and stability to the region.
They both want to kill middle eastern civilians, but one of them will kill middle eastern civilians in ways that let liberals feel good about themselves.
It’s just a classic good-cop, bad-cop routine. One plays your friend and the other plays your enemy, depending on what end of America’s fake ideological divide you happen to land on. But really they both want the same thing — in this case to murder people around the world with total impunity without sparking domestic unrest.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 22 2024 4:29 utc | 176

De Sade At Sde Teiman: When Genocide, Snuff Films, Extra-Judicial Assassinations & Rape Are de Facto Legal
By Ilana Mercer….She’s Jewish and grew up in Israel from which she fled, aged 19, never to return..

(excerpt)…..The totem words and adjectives we use to describe Israel, a perverse and pornographically murderous society, fail. One day flows into the next, each indistinguishable in the level of sadistic torture and carnage dreamed up by the IDF Einsatzgruppen.
As televised vignettes at July’s end showed, the Israelis, a “bizarre specimen of moral laxity,” in the 1728 words of Southern gentleman William Byrd, had been openly rationalizing the need to codify in law the rape of Palestinian hostages.
From Knesset members to the distinguishably dumb panelists who festoon that country’s tv networks, “Israeli media’s coverage of the rape of Palestinian [hostages] shows support for sexual violence in service of genocide.”
The crimes of genocide, the making and mass-marketing of online snuff films featuring murdered Palestinians, and the commission of extra-judicial assassination the globe over—these Israel has already de facto legalized in what passes for law in that thugocracy……

https://www.unz.com/imercer/de-sade-at-sde-teiman-when-genocide-snuff-films-extra-judicial-assassinations-rape-are-de-facto-legal/

Posted by: Exile | Aug 22 2024 5:08 utc | 177