Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 6, 2024
Gaza As A New(?) Western Method To Wage War

We have seen a myriad of reports about systematic torture and murder in Israeli concentration camps, aka prisons, for Palestinians.

These reports come even from prime media which generally serve as outlets of the ruling class. There are by now so many of these reports that there is no doubt that they are real.

However there have been no political consequences from those reports. I have also not seen or heard any western politician or any editorials condemning the Israel over these reports. To my best knowledge no western country has punished the Zionist government over such behavior.

This even as it is obvious who the main people responsible for this are. Everyone knows and talks about them:

Musa ‘Aasi, a 58-year-old painter-decorator and father of four, said he heard guards beat 38-year-old Tha’er Abu ‘Asab to death in a neighbouring cell at Ketziot in November. One guard told 50-year-old Firas Hassan, from Bethlehem: “We are livestreaming this for Ben-Gvir”.

Ben Gvir’s spokesperson said the minister was “proud” of his prison policy, and that it was in line with international law. “The conditions of the terrorists imprisoned in Israeli prisons have been tightened to the minimum required by law. In accordance with the minister’s policy, the terrorists do not receive the improved conditions they received in the past,” they said.

The Guardian fails to refute those lies from Ben Gvir's spokesperson.

The Palestinians will continue to be tortured and killed. And all their families – in fact – every Palestinian in Gaza shall be killed:

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich implies he believes that blocking humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip is “justified and moral” even if it causes 2 million civilians to die of hunger, adding however that the international community won’t allow this to happen.

“We are bringing in aid because there is no choice,” Smotrich says at a conference in Yad Binyamin hosted by the Israel Hayom outlet. “We can’t, in the current global reality, manage a war. Nobody will let us cause 2 million civilians to die of hunger even though it might be justified and moral until our hostages are returned. Humanitarian in exchange for humanitarian is morally justified, but what can we do? We live today in a certain reality, we need international legitimacy for this war.”

As no one, Smotrich claims, will let the Zionist kill 2 million civilians by hunger at once, it must be done slowly. By now some 10% of the once 2.3 million people in Gaza are likely already dead – killed by bombs or by the consequences of the war the Zionist are waging against them.

Moshe “Bogie” Ya’alon, a former Chief of Staff of the IDF, who also served as Israel’s Defence Minister, is quoted by Alastair Crooke as saying this.

“When you talk about Smotrich and Ben Gvir: They have a Rabbi. His name is Dov Lior. He is the Rabbi of the Jewish Underground, who intended to blow up the Dome of the Rock – and before that the buses in Jerusalem. Why? In order to hurry up the ‘Last War’. Do you [not] hear them talking in terms of the Last War; or of Smotrich’s concept of ‘subjugation’? Read the article he published in Shiloh in 2017. First of all, this concept rests on Jewish supremacy: Mein Kampf in reverse”.

Smotrich and Ben Gvir are sitting right in the cabinet. But has any western country even blocked their travel or entry or sanctioned them?

Why is this allowed to happen?

Back in February Tarik Cyril Amar found this explanation.

The Gaza Method
The West’s evolving blueprint for controlling a poly-crisis world by mass-murdering and subjugating the poor, the rebellious, and those deemed “superfluous.”

The non-paywalled full text is available here.

The West is in decline and it has only one method left to delay it – brute force.

All of the above means that the West is left with one option: the hardest of powers, if the dumbest, too: military force. And that is where the Gaza Genocide precedent fulfills its most important function as method-setting and method-“normalizing.” In a very concrete way, too: For since the 1990s (at the latest), Western militaries – with the US in the lead, obviously – have been thinking intensely about fighting in cities.

You see where this has been going, right? To Gaza. Gaza is not the first but, for now, the worst instance of a doctrinal body of pseudo-technical and rationally vicious thought coming into practice: How to subdue the cities of the Global South (and the poor in general, make no mistake, Northerners), by all and any means. And for this type of very-near/present future warfare everywhere, humanitarian law as we know it – with all its immense flaws – is still too “soft,” too restraining. The same holds, of course, for our notions of crimes against humanity, including genocide.

He concludes:

Gaza is a method. A Western method. Fascist, Zionist, apartheid, sadistic Israel is a pioneer, a trailblazer into yet more evil to be done from those above to those below. That is why those above will shield Israel. They are shielding themselves and their future deeds.

I was in doubt about this theory when I first read it. But by now I think that the elite are really planing like this. It is the only explanation that makes sense and it also consistent and fits with their increasing endorsement of pure fascism be it in Israel or in Ukraine.

Comments

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 7 2024 20:21 utc | 382
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I am neither hateful nor ignorant.
And, what makes you so sure I am a goy?
And what would that have to do with anything?
A Jew could just as well make such a challenge. In fact, I was thinking that the Jews’ basic invention of psychoanalysis and their familiarity and comfort with concepts such as projection and transference would make them immediately understand the logic of the dynamic that Cabe described. Isn’t the essence of psychoanalyis and most other therapies facing the truth about oneself?
Your coming close to the “antisemitism” card.
Not acceptable, in my book.
It is amazing to me how people feel empowered to sling hate speech at strangers (for instance in a blog such as this and also in comment threads) when they have zero knowledge of their background. The targets of this hate speech could be second-generation Holocaust survivors.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 23:36 utc | 401

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 23:36 utc | 401
I like the way one internet wag put it a while back:
‘if you’re not an antisemite you’re not paying attention!’
That plus: ‘an antisemite is anyone a Jew doesn’t like.’
Personally, I think it’s time to stop buying into the mind-fuck that the insult carries any weight.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 7 2024 23:47 utc | 402

not untypical
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1820173196126986358
Quds News Network @QudsNen
“Do not return home until you have burned all of Gaza. Leave not even a baby there!!!! I take upon myself any sin you commit there. Feel free to slaughter them alive if possible, please!”
Israeli reservist Moshe Yifrah has been openly calling for the annihilation of Palestinians through his posts on X for months. Yifrah is currently an active soldier serving in Gaza.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 23:55 utc | 403

@ Giyane
Thanks, that makes sense to me.
I enjoy chess as a friendly game with many memorable moments, and had always rejected computer versions. One day I thought I would go and beat the hardest computer version I could find, which was said to be stockfish. It took some time, playing it was slightly intriguing but not fun, and even when I eventually succeded the only real satisfaction was of not to have to play it again.
My view of AI is similar to b , there is no great secret. A computer can make millions of calculations but it has no sense of their meaning beyond what is programmed.
However the danger is that people start to allow themselves to be fooled in tech interactions, and there they will be learning to be what a computer is. That I find very sad.
Fars just released a cryptic message
https://t.me/SEPAHCYBERY/96322
maybe talking of the exercises.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 7 2024 23:58 utc | 404

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1820173196126986358
Quds News Network @QudsNen
“Do not return home until you have burned all of Gaza. Leave not even a baby there!!!! I take upon myself any sin you commit there. Feel free to slaughter them alive if possible, please!”
How do you slaughter the dead?

Posted by: JAB | Aug 8 2024 0:01 utc | 405

@Jane 401
You missed the irony of what I was saying I think.
Viewed as a criticism of zionists (don’t cross over to jews please, that is a known zionist trick) , your words might have been viewed as I described by a zionist.
Secondly, if they understand psychology then they surely would correct, no ? Maybe they choose not to or feel above that .
And you call me anti-semitic ?
Do you even know the definition of semite ?
Draw a line under the conversation though please, because we will not understand each other and would ruin the thread I think. I notice there are further replies beyond the first but will skip them .
No hard feelings from my side.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 8 2024 0:10 utc | 406

meanwhile back at the land of the free
and the home of the truly brave….
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/yemeni-forces-say-targeted-two-us-destroyers-in-the-gulf-of
Yemeni Forces say targeted two US destroyers in the Gulf of Aden
The Yemeni Armed Forces announced that they had conducted three operations: two targeting US destroyers and the third targeting the ship Contship Ono in the Red Sea.
….The second operation was a target on the US destroyer Cole in the Gulf of Aden, using multiple drones to achieve its objective. In the third operation, the naval forces targeted the US destroyer Laboon with several ballistic missiles, according to Saree.
According to him, “the targeting of the two US destroyers as they passed through the Yemeni Armed Forces’ operational area toward the northern Red Sea was part of a broader strategy to challenge American military support for the Israeli occupation.”
Saree added, “One outcome of the operations was the inability of the two destroyers to fully intercept the missiles and drones, resulting in several of the drones and missiles successfully achieving their targets.”….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 0:18 utc | 407

I’d like to know what the Indigenous Americans views are on the Israel/Palestine issue. After all, their land was colonised by people who had no claim to it.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 8 2024 0:20 utc | 408

@ michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 0:18 utc | 407 with the Yemen activity…thanks
Al Manar TV confirms the Yemen attacks on US warships and reports the following about Hezbollah

The group’s military media issued a series of statements outlining the attacks and their outcomes:
First Operation
The initial statement announced that on Wednesday, August 7, 2024, at 12:40 PM, the Islamic Resistance’s fighters targeted the Al-Raheb site with artillery shells, scoring direct hits.
Second Operation
The second statement reported that at 12:40 PM, the group’s fighters launched an artillery strike on the Al-Raheb site, achieving direct hits.
Third Operation
As per the third statement, at 3:50 PM, Hezbollah’s fighters struck the Al-Malikiyah site with rockets, scoring direct hits.
Fourth Operation
In response to the Israeli attacks and assassinations in Mayfdoun and Jwayya, Hezbollah fighters launched an aerial attack on Wednesday with a squadron of drones, targeting Israeli artillery positions in Al-Zaourah and causing confirmed casualties among Zionist officers and soldiers.
Fifth Operation
At 7:05 PM on Wednesday, Hezbollah’s fighters precisely targeted the Al-Sammaqa Israeli occupation site in the occupied Kfar Shouba hills with rockets, achieving direct hits.
More Precise Strikes
Later on Wednesday, Hezbollah’s valiant fighters responded to the Israeli attacks and assassinations in the southern towns of Mayfadoun and Jwayya. They bombed the headquarters of the Northern Corps in the Ein Zeitim base with several Katyusha rockets.
Additionally, Hezbollah’s fighters successfully targeted a gathering of Israeli occupation soldiers in Jabal Nadhar with rockets.

Whole lot of shit going on if you ask me and this is the prelude.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 0:30 utc | 409

Naive | Aug 7 2024 22:05 utc | 392
That you are a Liar is a fact, not a logical fallacy, illiterate poster. You are not telling the true: you are a liar.
BTW, Ad personam? What the fuck is that? You intended to say Ad hominem (in cursive). Fucking (an insult, not a fallacy) illiterate (a fact).
Please! Show us the original texts which supports your assertions. If you don’t, keep for yourself, ridiculous primate (fact, not a fallacy, learn to distinguish), your gratuitous claims and STFU, please!
Done with you, ignorant (fact) troll (here I’m doubting between insult and fact)

Posted by: Premind | Aug 8 2024 0:42 utc | 410

When it comes down to the fighting where will China, Russia, North Korea, India, Mexico, Cuba, South Africa, South America and most of all Turkey.. stand..
No one is going to get by this war over control of the oil and gas in the middle east without taking sides?

Posted by: snake | Aug 8 2024 0:43 utc | 411

Al Manar TV has a posting up with the title
Yahya Sinwar: Hamas Man Who Will Never Raise the White Flag
the quote

Sinwar’s appointment sends “a message from Hamas that he is alive, despite being hunted by Israel, and that Hamas’s leadership in Gaza remains strong and intends to stay in power,” according to Roi Kais, the Arab affairs correspondent for Israeli KAN News.
The second message delivered through Hamas’ step, is the unity of movement and Sinwar’s capability to lead the resistance group despite the “difficulties in communicating with the rest of Hamas’ leadership,” as reported by mainstream media.
The third message is that the fate of the ceasefire talks is in the hand of Hamas’ man who spent 23 years in Israeli jails and has been described by the Israeli occupation as ruthless and powerful, based on an Israeli assessment of his years in detention.

Here is another singing the Tom Petty song, I WON”T BACK DOWN!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 0:43 utc | 412

Even the few minutes in writing is a fucking waste of time. Now I understand why many traditional posters have left the comments section.
Chapeau to B for his analysis, but the comments section has declined to 4chan levels.
I’m done here.
Yes… You are welcome…

Posted by: Premind | Aug 8 2024 0:50 utc | 413

Wayne 373, ” there’s an attraction that is probably similar to falling
in love with desert life.”
Or sailing for days outside sight of land.
My old acquaintance in Kautokeino learned to love the tundra (she is German) and was inspired by its life forms in creating silver jewelry.
So I tried the site you linked. I was able to sort of get the 3D going but was unable to search and locate Furuflatlen and Lyngsldalen. However, I did find them on Google Maps and did a little “traveling” up the valley and then north up the coast. What a long tunnel! I think I can see a hiking trail that goes up the Lyngsdal valley. It sounds as though you make the trek from Furuflaten to Lyngsdalhytte. Do you do this hike with a group or alone? It doesn’t seem as oppressively monotonous as the tundra. I can see that Kautokeino is located right at the center of the Norwegian tundra, far from the coast. Not for me!!

Posted by: Jane | Aug 8 2024 1:12 utc | 414

No hard feelings from my side.
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 8 2024 0:10 utc | 406
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Nor on mine, since you are not making sense.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 8 2024 1:16 utc | 415

@Siddhartha 408
That made me think because we hear little of this. I could not speak at all for native americans, the only proper interaction I have had with was (very ironically) with an indigenous american tied into US government agenda who seemed to have adopted defense of ‘the plight of jews’ as part of his mission.
However I did come across an article
https://daraj.media/en/being-indigenous-comparing-native-americans-and-palestinians/
which does us the favour of trying to distinguish the realities from a Palestinian perspective. It is worth reading and fits well with the topic theme.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 8 2024 1:19 utc | 416

Ornot 406.
Just to be clear, I don’t buy convenience labeling as “irony” insulting labels such as “typical hateful goy.”
I think barflies can figure out which foot this shoe is on.
Bye.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 8 2024 1:21 utc | 417

Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 8 2024 0:20 utc | 408
I have a neighbor who is a native American. We have spoken about it, and he is in support of the Palestinians. He’s a filmmaker who has done stuff on the oil pipeline protests in North Dakota (or South Dakota) and other stuff, so he is more aware of power kinda stuff than your usual human.
But I think the community probably has as many opinions about it as the general US population, which is that most people are just trying to get by, and this is not at the top of their worries. I think anything like the American Indian Movement, AIM, which got more or less taken out during Cointelpro times, is still very active. They would probably take a stance on it.
I certainly can’t speak for the indigenous community even though my grandmother on my father’s side’s family was from New Mexico back before the Spanish came. Unfortunately, they have been kind of screwed over, and there’s division within the indigenous community about a lot of things. I don’t think there is a unified voice. I could be completely wrong.
Here’s the Yemeni Song, Ship Ship.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 8 2024 1:32 utc | 418

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 8 2024 1:32 utc | 418
My bad. I don’t think AIM is active.
Sorry. I should not post while I should be working.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 8 2024 1:49 utc | 419

/cheep
No, Premind! Don’t leave angry! D: You have to see me do one more hopscotch at least!
/tosses bottlecap
/hop, big hop, turns back to picks up bottlecap, spread-legged hop, hop, spread-legged hop, hop hop
😀
/bottlecap drops from beak
OK. Go now if you must. But know some will welcome you back. 🙂 Don’t let the sun set upon your anger. Let it out and let it go.
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 8 2024 1:49 utc | 420

you can watch the TV panel discussion at the video clip
https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1821226395252461950
Jonathan Cook @Jonathan_K_Cook
Seems like we’ve come a very long way from the days when Israelis used to kid themselves that their sons were ‘the most moral army in the world’.
Now they’re discussing on TV how Israeli soldiers can best maximise the pain they inflict on captive Palestinians through rape.
https://x.com/NizMhani/status/1821181316743799020
Niz@NizMhani
🔴SHOCKING🔴
Israel is quite possibly the only nation in the world where it is permissable and commonplace to go on TV and openly declare that the RAPING of prisoners should be a LEGITIMATE and OFFICIAL POLICY of the state and must be widely implemented.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 1:58 utc | 421

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 7 2024 20:21 utc | 382
Jane’s statements of conclusion/query can be delivered in calm tones that do not engender hate. Her written account above does just that. Your perception of its hatefulness is in your head, not in Jane’s words.
Indeed Zionist’s will perceive the same and intensely so. However the purpose of the task isn’t to convince them. They demonstrate an insanity beyond recovery. It is to expose the simple inadequacy of their position, and the madness of their fervour, to those who are now fooled by, but not committed to, that dismal cause.

Posted by: Greg | Aug 8 2024 1:59 utc | 422

israel has long normalized its incredible dehumanization, exploitation, abuse and torture of the poor Palestinian people,
and the Western powers and their mainstream Media Elite cohorts in war crimes and crimes against humanity have covered their brutal zionist asses
https://x.com/yarahawari/status/1821116316188541203
Dr. Yara Hawari د. يارا هواري@yarahawari
CCTV footage of Israeli soldiers gang raping a Palestinian detainee at the Sde Teiman prison camp is being shared on Israeli media channels.
But its not being shared on Western mainstream news channels.
Why?
Because the systematic sexual abuse and torture that 1000s of Palestinians have suffered from at the hands of the Israeli regime for over7 decades is not an issue for them.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 2:54 utc | 423

Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
@jacksonhinklle
🚨🇸🇾🇺🇸 BREAKING: SYRIAN soldiers have recaptured their Al-Omar oil refinery from occupying US-backed forces.
https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1821210999988318649

Posted by: Menz | Aug 8 2024 2:58 utc | 424

Megatron
@Megatron_ron
BREAKING:
🇺🇲 🇸🇾 It seems that the US has lost its first oil refinery in Syria
Assad-backed Arab tribes entered inside the Al-Omar oil refinery occupied by US-backed Forces with support of US on the outskirts of the town of Dhiban.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1821208977436221509

Posted by: Menz | Aug 8 2024 3:01 utc | 425

Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman
BREAKING: FBI HAS JUST RAIDED SCOTT RITTER’S HOME
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1821273229300002970

Posted by: Menz | Aug 8 2024 3:02 utc | 426

🇵🇸🇯🇵Thoton Akimoto
@AkimotoThn
·
18h
Japan: Ambassadors of U.S., U.K., France, Italy and Australia will skip the August 8 Nagasaki peace ceremony after the mayor disinvited Israel.
https://x.com/AkimotoThn/status/1821106870452678933

Posted by: Menz | Aug 8 2024 3:05 utc | 427

‘Al-Faraheen 2’ – Resistance Roundup – Day 306
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/al-faraheen-2-resistance-roundup-day-306/
Comment : quiet day. Video from Aug 5 showing ambush of a IDF platoon on Soirhern Fromt. Northern Front – 7 strikes
Merkava tally ramekins at 208

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 3:27 utc | 428

Assad-backed Arab tribes entered inside the Al-Omar oil refinery occupied by US-backed Forces with support of US on the outskirts of the town of Dhiban.
Posted by: Menz | Aug 8 2024 3:01 utc | 425
Perfect timing.
If they can keep the Americans tied up hanging on to their collapsing empire in Mesopotamia then perhaps Iran can get busy finishing the job in occupied Palestine …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 8 2024 3:32 utc | 429

Micheal72 – thanks for posting the Yemeni SITREP.
On a general note blind rage atrocities is a sign of defeated military. Yamashita‘s Rape of Manila is perhaps the most well know .
Note – as the occupying power, it’s the Likud’s responsibility to house, feed, and protect the civilian population of Gaza; away from the battlefield. That would be in Jaffa, Deir Yassin, Bersheeba, and Bethlehem.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 3:43 utc | 430

Merkava tally ramekins at 208
Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 3:27 utc | 428
But why? Richard Medhurst and Electronic Intifada both just gave walkthroughs showing at least 1 more Merkava getting totalled.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 8 2024 4:08 utc | 431

Arch,
I saw that combat video also, it’s more of a “utterly disabled” strike instead of a “totally destroyed” strike. Just my armchair military analyst perspective.
I’m surprised the Likud is still sending Armor into the alleyways of Gaza. This video appeared to be a mechanized unit. Of course the Merkava was left all alone by its infantry who were most likely cowering inside ths 2 IFVs “destroyed”
I simply don’t get it. Why does the Likud keep sending these untrained IDF fighters into Gaza to be swatted down like flies ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 4:34 utc | 432

Well, according to my clock, the 3 hour window of air clearance above Iran has passed and we are all still alive.
I think someone(s) were played here and think the pressure being brought to bear is a good thing.
To me, the axis of resistance needs, at some point, execute a 3 hour military event that decapitates leadership and neuters military capabilities enough to foster capitulation to another path than the one we are on as a species.
I sure don’t see the world going back to some form of stasis so something needs to happen to upset the applecart….I keep hoping for economic collapse….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 4:41 utc | 433

@ LoveDonbass | Aug 7 2024 21:18 utc | 385
Undoubtedly the Zionist state calls itself, and indeed insists that everyone acknowledge that it is Jewish. Netanyahu’s recent pronouncements even claim a hegemony over all Jews, and of course he and the Israeli establishment demand the right to speak in the name of Judaism. Yet, as Rabbi Shapiro points out in The Empty Wagon and in his videos, their project has no Jewish content at all, except as window dressing. Zionists have tried to appropriate the Jewish religion for their own legitimation, yet, just like a parasite sucking all the lifeblood of the host and leaving it a dried shell, they abominate, destroy, and ruin Judaism. Their god is not the God of western monotheism, often derided on this site, but rather the mammon of the nationalist concept. Durkheim said, “Religion is a people worshiping itself,” and that was never truer than in exclusivist, totalitarian nationalisms like Zionism and Naziism.
Many commenters on this site have denounced Israel as Jewish, yet, as Rabbi Shapiro says, that is an illegitimate appropriation. Why should we concede anything whatever to the Zionists? They are not Jews in the traditional sense at all, and their state has nothing whatsoever to do with traditional Judaism, which never had anything to do with any project resembling Zionism, which was so clearly born in the nationalist cauldron of Eastern Europe.
Likewise, their charge of antisemitism. Actually, the Zionists are the antisemites, meaning anti-Jewish Jew haters, and should be denounced as such. Their whole project has been in continuous alliance with antisemites, and they continually and actively promote and hope for antisemitism to break out everywhere, because it validates their position. When they complain about themselves being threatened in the US and elsewhere, the charge should be thrown back in their faces that, no, it is you who are directly threatening the Jews who oppose you. What about all those Jewish student demonstrators against Israel who were even beaten up by Zionist thugs, for example at UCLA?
Zionism is truly the Empty Wagon. So let’s not validate it by making any concessions to its claim to Jewishness. It is threadbare, and those claims are illegitimate. Its claim to Jewishness is a lie. And we don’t have to go nitpicking in the Talmud and Torah looking for nasty things that the Zionists have appropriated for their own legitimation, such as the Israelites’ invasion of Palestine under Joshua. Such stories hafe nothing to do with the present condition and their current appropriation by Zionism is a wholly modern development that has no classical authority at all.

Posted by: Cabe | Aug 8 2024 4:44 utc | 434

@Jane | Aug 8 2024 1:12 utc | 414
It was late when I wrote, now I see it’s not Open thread.
Yeah, Arctic lichens prolly make good templates for jewelry.
And to answer, the group hike is from an island Rebbenesøy to
Kilpisjarvi, Finland. My wife and I have done it alone, too.
Only last part gets out on the not4U ‘plateau’. It’s related
to a WWII event we are researching and writing about.
That link is good for Norway where you can’t get GE street view
or a good GE pic. Happy trails 2U!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 8 2024 5:04 utc | 435

psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 4:41 utc | 433
Last time it was 13 days, nearly two weeks from announcement till strike.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 5:14 utc | 436

Rape
Allah is all-seeing and all powerful.
We witnessed in the Rave prior to Oct 7 the institutionalised, music-tranced, mass rape of female Israeli military students, who were then brutally massacred by Israel helicopters and tanks in the Hannibal directive.
Those students were being taught their last military lesson. You will be raped by your colleagues and murdered by the Nazi State and you will be happy. Nobody is going to talk about your treatment.
My sister witnessed an officer from the British Raj state in his old age, ” We were gods. ” US forces in Afghanistan were the same. Neither the Jews, nor the Christians, nor the Muslims are going to discuss the shameful taboo of rape in their genteel Family News Bulletins or in public. It is a taboo subject.
The taboo is too close to our primal instincts to usefully discuss. But Allah sees all and He is the Disposer of our human destinies. Allah is supremely merciful and sees the totality of our human existence.
I observe only one tiny aspect of the taboo of rape, that the Nazi State of Israel gang- raped their own girls and then massacred them on Oct 7.
I suspect that was deliberately done to cause offence to their Jewish population in order to spread an atmosphere of decadence in preparation for the Israeli genocide.
Tory policy: Work fast and break everything. These British Fascists have been removed from power, as will all Nazism supporters like the pompous David Cameron who supported Ukrainian Nazis in Ukraine. The pompous Netanyahu awaits his fate.
Allah created humans beings inherently weak . And Allah is Invincible.
Likud is working some kind of sorcery on its own population. The West remembers its one thousand years of institutionalised use of military rape. Nobody in the West can say a single word of disapproval of Israel’s use of military rape.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 8 2024 5:18 utc | 437

Watch Garland Nixon with Laith Marouf warning people in the UK, US and Canada that Martial Law is going to be installed when war breaks out in the Middle East. Musk’s “Civil War is coming” tweet is part of the conditioning.
The reason the Axis hasn’t acted yet is because they are putting the defensive measures in place.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 8 2024 5:31 utc | 438

there are an amazing number of US bases scattered throughout the area, and many of them have been attacked and/or ransacked for weapons/ammunition by the Resistance etc
“…While America’s enemies have demonstrated, to lethal effect, their knowledge of the locations of U.S. bases in the region, the Pentagon’s public affairs office claims to have no list of such outposts….”
lmao
https://theintercept.com/2024/08/06/secret-military-bases-middle-east-attacks/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theintercept
The U.S. Has Dozens of Secret Bases Across the Middle East. They Keep Getting Attacked.
An Intercept investigation found 63 U.S. bases, garrisons, and shared facilities in the region. U.S. troops are “sitting ducks,” according to one expert.
“….U.S. and allied forces have been attacked more than 170 times during the Gaza war: 102 times in Syria, 70 in Iraq, and once in Jordan…..
….While America’s enemies have demonstrated, to lethal effect, their knowledge of the locations of U.S. bases in the region, the Pentagon’s public affairs office claims to have no list of such outposts…..
…The Intercept launched its own investigation and developed a list of more than 60 U.S. bases, garrisons, or shared foreign facilities in the Middle East. These sites range from small combat outposts to massive air bases in 13 countries: Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen….
….Lies by American officials and secrecy surrounding bases in the Middle East has allowed the Pentagon to skirt accountability on several different fronts. U.S. outposts in the region have, for example, become sites of secret sexual assault and a ready source of weapons, ammunition, and equipment for criminals and militants…..”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 5:44 utc | 439

In response to

Last time it was 13 days, nearly two weeks from announcement till strike.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 5:14 utc | 436

Thanks for the reminder. How much soiled underwear between now and then in Occupied Palestine?….not enough!
I want to see an end to the shit show Peter. Having speculated about its demise and a date for it to have happened by I am now depressed a bit by it not ending…though it is looking closer….isn’t it? or is that more hopium?
I think the 3 hour type military take down needs to and will happen……hopefully within what is left of my lifetime.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 5:50 utc | 440

Apparently the Taylor Swift Concerts in Vienna were just canceled because of information regarding a planned terror Attack.
Hmmmm; Austria has been studiously neutral in the Levant but getting wobbly with hints of moving towards a strong anti-genocide position.
Cui bono ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 7:39 utc | 441

personally, I think they’re wrong. Iran will go military sites, especially the airbases and planes; Hezbollah will go for northern military targets and reclaiming the occupied Lebanese Shebaa farmsl and Yemen will attack vital infrastructure like Haifa port and oil storages, tit for tat for what israel did to Yemen, only 50 times bigger
I could be entirely wrong; time will tell
https://x.com/RoyalIntel_/status/1820935444789342457
🚨YNET NEWS (Hebrew):
Israel believes that Iran and its allies may target high-profile sites such as the Knesset, Prime Minister’s Office, IDF Headquarters, Mossad HQ and/or Air Force & IDF intel bases.
Reading all that was such a turn on my goodness….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 8:05 utc | 442

Syrian Girl 🇸🇾
@Partisangirl
DISGUSTING‼️ Ambassadors of U.S., UK, France, Italy and Australia refuse to go to Nagasaki peace ceremony because the mayor disinvited Israel.
Essentially they are saying if you don’t like Israel, we’re glad you got nuked. Oppenheimer built the nukes.
https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1821138920077439128
🇵🇸🇯🇵Thoton Akimoto
@AkimotoThn
#Nagasaki mayor Shiro Suzuki defended today his decision to invite Palestine instead of Israel to the peace ceremony.
The threats from U.S. and its vassals to boycott the annual event to commemorate the hibakusha could not work on the mayor, whose parents were a-bomb survivors.
https://x.com/AkimotoThn/status/1821389309238489536

Posted by: Menz | Aug 8 2024 8:23 utc | 443

Does being a child of a A-Bomb survivors trump being a grandchild of a pogrom survivor ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 8:30 utc | 444

I don’t know whether anyone has mentioned it, but the interview with David Hearst of the Middle East Eye on the Chris Hedges Report yesterday was really excellent for giving an incisive analysis of the current Gaza situation. “Israel’s mask is slipping” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-UpcSvuHhc.
I didn’t agree with all of it; Hearst still seems to believe Israel can change when it has to, which I don’t. He thinks, as I do, that it’s been the same policy since before the foundation of Israel, just enacted faster or slower, but I myself don’t see how they can change their path, even under pressure.

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 8 2024 8:32 utc | 445

https://x.com/JoshC0301/status/1821269631920705862
Josh @JoshC0301
let me get this straight: Israel’s genocide began under the “Hamas did mass r@pe” hoax without any evidence, but now that there’s testimonies & video footage of Israelis conducting systematic rape of Palestinians, the world is supposed to stand by and do nothing?
is that right?
https://x.com/Annapal999/status/1821230365547298945
Inés @Annapal999
During my work as a journalist, testimonies from Sde Teiman’s concentration camp were among the most horrific things I’ve seen or heard,to tell a full story of Palestinians’ lives in Israeli prisons as hell on earth,I built a digital story check it out👇
https://ine-s.shorthandstories.com/Sde-Teiman-prison/index.html

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2024 8:42 utc | 446

Indi.ca is a must read
https://tinyurl.com/3f32v34u

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 8 2024 9:55 utc | 447

To me, the axis of resistance needs, at some point, execute a 3 hour military event that decapitates leadership and neuters military capabilities enough to foster capitulation to another path than the one we are on as a species.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 4:41 utc | 433
I remember Putin emphasizing that western “colleagues”, that is, members of the elite, are never going to be in danger. In essense saying that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians (and the Russians on the front, plus now Palestinians, and perhaps soon Europeans) will be killed but the decision makers will not be attacked.
I hope he’s changed his mind or that I’ve misunderstood.

Posted by: Michael A | Aug 8 2024 10:12 utc | 448

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 8 2024 9:55 utc | 447
No one would doubt the genocidal tendencies of colonial westerners. But the author Indi.ca fails to say that the effects and consequences are different in different places, because of geographical circumstances. The US genocide of native Americans was successful in its aims because there was no-one to stop them, and the ocean on either side. The Israeli genocide of the Palestinians is going to be a failure, however horrifying, because Israel/Palestine is a pimple on the backside of Asia, surrounded by other peoples who cannot be eliminated.

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 8 2024 10:37 utc | 449

‘Considered Deserters’ – Majority of Haredi Draftees Ignore Israeli Military Call-Up

(excerpts)…Only 48 draftees showed up to the induction center in the past two days, after some 900 draft orders were sent out, The Times of Israel reported, citing the military.
The Israeli public broadcaster KAN said only 30 Haredi Jews appeared on Monday, the Anadolu news agency reported. Some 1,000 were due to register on Monday and Tuesday….
…..The Times of Israel said the military made adjustments to the process for the Haredi, including having only male soldiers and offices to process them as well as adapting the psycho-technical tests and interviews to the orthodox community……

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/considered-deserters-majority-of-haredi-draftees-ignore-israeli-military-call-up/
Comment ; a few years ago, the Haredi state-within-a-state was considered by secular Israelis as the biggest danger to the Jewish State.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 10:57 utc | 450

CJPME Condemns Canada For Boycotting Nagasaki Memorial Service in Solidarity With Israel
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/182134448288628510
Because the mayor of Nagasaki had the decency not to invite Israel’s genocide regime to take part in the ceremony.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 8 2024 11:41 utc | 451

Cabe 434
Netanyahu no more represents Judaism than his pet Islamists represent Islam. Much more I could say about that, but brevity is first cousin to poetry.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 8 2024 12:00 utc | 452

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 8 2024 10:37 utc | 449
He fails to say that because it extends beyond the basic point he is making.
You are free to extrapolate further, as you have, but that should imply no criticism of the source article.

Posted by: Greg | Aug 8 2024 12:13 utc | 453

Posted by: Greg | Aug 8 2024 12:13 utc | 453
Sorry, not talking about the effects severely weakens the original statement, makes it pointless really.

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 8 2024 12:18 utc | 454

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 8 2024 10:37 utc | 449
Furthermore the resistance you imply from the backside of Asia has only recently accumulated critical mass ensuing from a long history of violent exploitative oppression. The colonisers have prevailed this way over centuries, until suddenly now when it seems that they no longer will. Do you think this change doesn’t surprise them to the extent their denial enables them any sight of it?

Posted by: Greg | Aug 8 2024 12:19 utc | 455

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 8 2024 12:18 utc | 454
Not at all. It seeks to clarify the hidden vital truth of the empire’s malignantly violent character – aka nothing new here; same old, same old.
That essential character must be established without reservation before taking the steps you propose.

Posted by: Greg | Aug 8 2024 12:25 utc | 456

Does being a child of a A-Bomb survivors trump being a grandchild of a pogrom survivor ?
Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2024 8:30 utc | 444
Nobody cares about the children of A-bomb survivors.
They are not Jewish. Worse still they are not white.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 8 2024 13:45 utc | 457

Cabe @ 434
When push comes to shove allthat matters is loyalty. In this case tribal loyalty. What we are talking about is a Bronze Age tribal cult. That enjoys loyalty of its members. The number of people, Jews or whoever, who achieve the level of intellectual abstraction you posit is tiny. The number who maintain that intellectuality when the Zionist says “but it’s existential” is insignificant. They just aren’t there.
Bronze Age cults dedicated to tribal warfare should vanish from the earth. A Judaism which is not dedicated to existential warfare – you may posit such, no one has seen it.
Like the Durkheim quote. The application of that is to say fuck religion and abandon such.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 8 2024 14:16 utc | 458

“For the next two thousand years the European Jews will be hunted to extinction as they were for the last two thousand years.
Except that in the coming two millenia there will be no empathy remaining, no lifeline and tolerance for another ‘Zionism'”
The problem here is that Zionism was as much a Christian theology as a Judaic theology. In both cases, there is extreme error, and I am not sure which is worse, but we clearly see the Zionist Jews behaving like banshees. I will go so far to claim that Judaic Zionism, with roots in Judaism, is a heresy and an abomination, and the practicers of Zionism are not Jews at all. Suffice to call them Zionists, or to differentiate from the Christian heretics, Jewish Zionists.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 6 2024 14:07 utc | 2

Posted by: Tedder | Aug 9 2024 1:38 utc | 459

This is an interesting article with a lot of content that I have not seen before, but I have to disagree that this is “western.”
Ashkenazi Jews are not a western people, they are clearly eastern (whether from the Middle East or the Black Sea region). Judaism is not a ‘western’ religion, it is a hybrid of the Middle Eastern religion of the Pharisees with the mysteries and occult rites of Babylon.
Passing this murder off on the ‘west’ is questionable, particularly given that the major power structures of the west are all in Jewish hands. No one is afraid of mocking Christians, for instance. Mobs of Muslim men are parading around the UK brandishing weapons with the full support of the government.

Posted by: Jim | Aug 9 2024 2:11 utc | 460

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 7 2024 21:18 utc | 385
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I don’t remember Bevin defending rapists.
Posted by: Chas | Aug 7 2024 22:44 utc | 396
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Nor do I. LoveDonbass, perhaps you should make the accusation directly to him. And show evidence. Otherwise, in both cases, you harm your own credibility.
Just my 2c worth.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Aug 9 2024 14:26 utc | 461

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 7 2024 21:18 utc | 385
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I don’t remember Bevin defending rapists.
Posted by: Chas | Aug 7 2024 22:44 utc | 396
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“Nor do I. LoveDonbass, perhaps you should make the accusation directly to him. And show evidence. Otherwise, in both cases, you harm your own credibility.”
Just my 2c worth.
Posted by: Gene Poole | Aug 9 2024 14:26 utc | 461
I do remember bevin defending ‘economic rapists’ ie radical Leftists; but he certainly did not defend, ‘physical rapists’.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 19:53 utc | 462