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August 6, 2024
Gaza As A New(?) Western Method To Wage War

We have seen a myriad of reports about systematic torture and murder in Israeli concentration camps, aka prisons, for Palestinians.

These reports come even from prime media which generally serve as outlets of the ruling class. There are by now so many of these reports that there is no doubt that they are real.

However there have been no political consequences from those reports. I have also not seen or heard any western politician or any editorials condemning the Israel over these reports. To my best knowledge no western country has punished the Zionist government over such behavior.

This even as it is obvious who the main people responsible for this are. Everyone knows and talks about them:

Musa ‘Aasi, a 58-year-old painter-decorator and father of four, said he heard guards beat 38-year-old Tha’er Abu ‘Asab to death in a neighbouring cell at Ketziot in November. One guard told 50-year-old Firas Hassan, from Bethlehem: “We are livestreaming this for Ben-Gvir”.

Ben Gvir’s spokesperson said the minister was “proud” of his prison policy, and that it was in line with international law. “The conditions of the terrorists imprisoned in Israeli prisons have been tightened to the minimum required by law. In accordance with the minister’s policy, the terrorists do not receive the improved conditions they received in the past,” they said.

The Guardian fails to refute those lies from Ben Gvir's spokesperson.

The Palestinians will continue to be tortured and killed. And all their families – in fact – every Palestinian in Gaza shall be killed:

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich implies he believes that blocking humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip is “justified and moral” even if it causes 2 million civilians to die of hunger, adding however that the international community won’t allow this to happen.

“We are bringing in aid because there is no choice,” Smotrich says at a conference in Yad Binyamin hosted by the Israel Hayom outlet. “We can’t, in the current global reality, manage a war. Nobody will let us cause 2 million civilians to die of hunger even though it might be justified and moral until our hostages are returned. Humanitarian in exchange for humanitarian is morally justified, but what can we do? We live today in a certain reality, we need international legitimacy for this war.”

As no one, Smotrich claims, will let the Zionist kill 2 million civilians by hunger at once, it must be done slowly. By now some 10% of the once 2.3 million people in Gaza are likely already dead – killed by bombs or by the consequences of the war the Zionist are waging against them.

Moshe “Bogie” Ya’alon, a former Chief of Staff of the IDF, who also served as Israel’s Defence Minister, is quoted by Alastair Crooke as saying this.

“When you talk about Smotrich and Ben Gvir: They have a Rabbi. His name is Dov Lior. He is the Rabbi of the Jewish Underground, who intended to blow up the Dome of the Rock – and before that the buses in Jerusalem. Why? In order to hurry up the ‘Last War’. Do you [not] hear them talking in terms of the Last War; or of Smotrich’s concept of ‘subjugation’? Read the article he published in Shiloh in 2017. First of all, this concept rests on Jewish supremacy: Mein Kampf in reverse”.

Smotrich and Ben Gvir are sitting right in the cabinet. But has any western country even blocked their travel or entry or sanctioned them?

Why is this allowed to happen?

Back in February Tarik Cyril Amar found this explanation.

The Gaza Method
The West’s evolving blueprint for controlling a poly-crisis world by mass-murdering and subjugating the poor, the rebellious, and those deemed “superfluous.”

The non-paywalled full text is available here.

The West is in decline and it has only one method left to delay it – brute force.

All of the above means that the West is left with one option: the hardest of powers, if the dumbest, too: military force. And that is where the Gaza Genocide precedent fulfills its most important function as method-setting and method-“normalizing.” In a very concrete way, too: For since the 1990s (at the latest), Western militaries – with the US in the lead, obviously – have been thinking intensely about fighting in cities.

You see where this has been going, right? To Gaza. Gaza is not the first but, for now, the worst instance of a doctrinal body of pseudo-technical and rationally vicious thought coming into practice: How to subdue the cities of the Global South (and the poor in general, make no mistake, Northerners), by all and any means. And for this type of very-near/present future warfare everywhere, humanitarian law as we know it – with all its immense flaws – is still too “soft,” too restraining. The same holds, of course, for our notions of crimes against humanity, including genocide.

He concludes:

Gaza is a method. A Western method. Fascist, Zionist, apartheid, sadistic Israel is a pioneer, a trailblazer into yet more evil to be done from those above to those below. That is why those above will shield Israel. They are shielding themselves and their future deeds.

I was in doubt about this theory when I first read it. But by now I think that the elite are really planing like this. It is the only explanation that makes sense and it also consistent and fits with their increasing endorsement of pure fascism be it in Israel or in Ukraine.

Comments

@ motorslug | Aug 6 2024 21:40 utc | 196
True, but the comment by tspoon that konami refers to says that Israel and Israelis have no right to exist. That can be construed as genocidal unless tspoon meant to say that that they have the right to exist, but not as Israelis. rather as Jewish members of a multiethnic Palestinian state.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2024 21:51 utc | 201

The Kingdom of Jordan needs to be collapsed in order to allow weapons and a defence for Palestinians on the West Bank.
The Kingdom of Egypt needs to collapse in order to allow weapons and a defence for the Palestinians in the Gaza strip.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 6 2024 15:20 utc | 32
You forgot the Kingdom of Galicia with their Kings Lew 1 and Lew 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Galicia%E2%80%93Volhynia

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Aug 6 2024 21:52 utc | 202

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Aug 6 2024 20:54 utc | 184
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You are deliberately missing my point.
You want to argue with someone about something and diss Arabs.
This is my last response.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 6 2024 21:53 utc | 203

konami | Aug 6 2024 21:21 utc | 190
Correct.
Indeed when Theodor Fritsch, a major figure in German antisemitism, sent several editions of his “Antisemitic Correspondence” to Nietzsche in 1887, the response of Nietzsche was not a joke:
“(…) Herewith I am returning to you the three issues of your correspondence sheet, thanking you for your confidence which you permitted me to cast a glance at the muddle of principles that lie at the heart of this strange movement. Yet I ask in the future not to provide me with these [anti-Semitic] mailings: I fear, in the end, for my patience. Believe me: this abominable “wanting to have a say” of noisy dilettantes about the value of people and races, this subjection to “authorities” who are utterly rejected with cold contempt by every sensible mind (e.g., E. Dühring, R. Wagner, Ebrard, Wahrmund, P. de Lagarde—who among these in questions of morality and history is the most unqualified, the most unjust?), these constant, absurd falsifications and rationalizations of vague concepts “germanic,” “semitic,” “aryan,” “christian,” “German”—all of that could in the long run cause me to lose my temper and bring me out of the ironic benevolence with which I have hitherto observed the virtuous velleities and pharisaisms of modern Germans.
— And finally, how do you think I feel when the name Zarathustra is mouthed by anti-Semites? …”
https://web.archive.org/web/20101230113158/http://www.consciencia.org/nietzsches-letters-1887

Posted by: Premind | Aug 6 2024 21:57 utc | 204

If the West ultimately triumphs the world only has itself to blame. Where is Saudi Arabia and Egypt now? Why is India licking the West’s ass despite its long history of oppression? And Vietnam and Philippines – why are you pivoting to those who had slaughtered your ancestors?
These are bad. But rest of world from Brazil to Indonesia aren’t much better – if you look at their overall history.
The only ones with spines are Russia and China – even though they too had tried to cozy to the West many many times but the West is just too arrogant and greedy.

Posted by: Allen | Aug 6 2024 21:58 utc | 205

https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1820861773358010877
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah explaining to Israelis why they should not engage in full-scale war :
Chemical plants worth $31 billion
Technology factories worth $76 billion
Power plants worth $9.7 billion
Food factories worth $12 billion
These factories in the north that took 34 years to build can be destroyed in one hour or even half an hour. This is without considering anything beyond the north.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 6 2024 21:58 utc | 206

Sorry, I don’t understand why the link is not properly posted.
Write the highlighted web direction in a browser.
I’m on a cellphone… Sorry for the inconvenience.
Bye

Posted by: Premind | Aug 6 2024 22:07 utc | 208

I agreed 100% with this theory of a GAZA Method of Warfare and of the normalization of atrocity stage that is happening all around.
Xtian Nationalism is putrid, and it is very much involved in pulling the strings right now.
To that end, I add this 2021 piece in support of the ongoing conversation:
Progressives Can’t Ignore Role of Christian Zionism in Colonization of Palestine
“The forced displacement of Palestinians is funded by the millions of dollars Christian Zionists send to Israel yearly.”
By Jonathan Brenneman & Aidan Orly, Truthout, May 20, 2021

Posted by: Irish | Aug 6 2024 22:26 utc | 209

Posted by: konami | Aug 6 2024 21:21 utc | 190
When people consider what happens in Gaza to be a new level, they mean that previous genocides weren’t televised.
It is televised?! In your country?! First news! In which country do you live?
Does it change anything? Imo the level is the number of people killed. It means that there is no new level.
I also don’t think it’s useful to distinguish between “bad Westerners” and “good others”
I distinguish between the oppressors and the oppressed.
Even now many are disgusted
It changes nothing.
This is a cartoon-style misrepresention of Nietzsche. In particular, Nietzsche did not stand on racial grounds and he certainly didn’t think of Germans (let alone “aryans”) are the Übermensch. That came later.
You should read him better.
Yes, he stood on racial ground. It is enough to read what he wrote about “brown” people. He supported colonialism (with all its consequences).
Yes, his Great Policy was to unite European countries to destroy Russia.
Yes, he was for eugenism and for continuous wars. And to use all available power without any restriction. Did you skip the pages where he is mentioning the “beasts of prey”?
Hitler understood him quite well, and he offered the complete works of Nietzsche to Mussolini when the latter was under custody.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 6 2024 22:29 utc | 210

OK
How would any of you that are denying Covid was/is a threat to human health…how would YOU handle a ‘pandemic’?
Quarantine has been used FOR CENTURIES
NPIs have been used FOR CENTURIES
Vaccines have prevented much human suffering…and the mRNA are NOT VACCINES
How would you asshats handle all your neighbors/friends/family dying from PREVENTABLE DISEASES??
What we got is ‘let ‘er rip’ and we’ve got H5N1 on the horizon with a much more severe IMMEDIATE threat to human/life health…not to say that Covid eventually won’t catch us all up in disability if not dead sooner than otherwise would have…(see actuary reports on premature death in the USA)
https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/25/15/8245
https://jmfeldman.medium.com/the-herd-immunity-strategy-isnt-part-of-a-scientific-debate-about-covid-19-abddf6bc7c13
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/how-the-cochrane-review-went-wrong-report-questioning-covid-masks-blows-up-prompts-apology/article_80b67196-5872-5b1a-a208-b0a525f8de5b.html
I have many many many links about the CONCERTED efforts of the Koch bros (yes I know there’s only one now) to convince the public that covid is ‘no biggie’…
unmitigated spread creates variants that are more and more immune evasive…not that there’s any lasting immunity from an infection…
THINK! Your government, who’s job is to protect the population from threats both domestic and foreign, has dropped the ball due to CAPITALISM …the line MUST GO UP, those bodies stacked in the corner? Nevermind them, get to work!!

Posted by: furies | Aug 6 2024 22:39 utc | 211

Plus ca change, plus ch’est la fuckin cheme chose , I find . The Catholics persecuted the Calvanist Huguenots and the Calvinist British Protestants persecuted the Catholic Irish.
And all of the thought they were doing God’s righteous Will while they were doing the persecution
Americans think Communism.is evil and Russians think Capitalism is evil.
Brits turn out to be Anericans at heart and hate Russia, But I am British person who detests everything about Asian Capitalism.
Turns out Tommy Robinson should’ve joined the Right wing Asians , not demonstrated against them. They’d be bos’ pals.
And I should fight for Russia for destroying Zionist Islamists in Israel.
Humans are extremely contentious creatures. We are continuously making scapegoats out of strangers who have done us no harm at all, just because they belong to a sect that has done us some harm.
So I say to our venerable host, concentrate on breathing , and don’t waste good oxygen on hard thoughts.
Chill, because chilling might be mistaken for Wisdom, even if it is only tiredness of old age.
Or some such Shakespearian trope.
Sufficient unto the day is the evil
thereof. We are in the days of the Israeli genocide. Our prayers to God should be , Forgive us our transgressions of Your boundaries, and do not let our beliefs antagonise others, but strengthen us against the evil of the wrongdoers.
Do not test us with tribulations of those who came before us, but have mercy on us and help us against the rebellious against Your Rule.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 6 2024 22:44 utc | 212

Posted by: Premind | Aug 6 2024 21:57 utc | 204
Ahah, you are still around after smearing MoA…
Very poor try. Nietzsche was always full of contradictions. Not surprising from a psychotic.
Funny that he is mentioning the “christians” in his letter. Several Jews supported him. Quite likely he was viewing them as Uebermenschen and at the same time hating judaism. His best friend called him antisemite because of that hate.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 6 2024 22:47 utc | 213

I certainly hope this situation is a temporary emergent accident caused by our corrupt political system but WTF, how did Netanyahu become King of the World?
Let’s review: He commits murder, terrorism, and a genocide attempt after being threatened with jail for corruption – which he can’t be touched for as long as war continues. And they can’t get rid of him after war because nobody else can form a government.
Meanwhile, he can commit deliberate acts of war and have the US send out a fleet immediately without question – except for a feeble reaction from Biden that he might have his hand slapped if he ever does it again. Congress claps for him with an enthusiasm never used for either Biden or Trump.
So, the US has pretty much handed over a WW3 start decision to an elderly man that’s a heartbeat away from eternity. What could possibly go wrong?
I recall a certain German leader famed for his absolute centralized authority. Netanyahu has him beat.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 6 2024 22:54 utc | 214

@ oldhippie | Aug 6 2024 20:05 utc | 169
Well, it sounds like you are willing to consider other views than your own here, and I am willing to accept that you haven’t personally encountered any Jews who do not support Israel who are anti-Zionist, but look harder and you will find that, while obviously a minority, they are nonetheless quite a few, and you can find videos by some of them on the Internet.
First, among the ultraorthodox, frum Jews, there is quite a lot of reservation about the State of Israel and Zionism, and their rabbis before the Second World War were very anti-Zionist. An excellent, huge work on this subject is The Empty Wagon: Zionism’s Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft by Rabbi Yaacov Shapiro, who denounces Zionism totally. He even identifies the Zionists as Amalekites who must be exterminated by God’s command in the Torah. He belongs to the Satmarer tradition centered today in New York but found worldwide which today has at least one percent of all Jews as its followers, at least 150,000 people, not an insignificant number. They regularly do things like burn Israeli flags and also blame the Holocaust on the Zionists. Shapiro has many YouTube videos denouncing Zionism and Israel.
Other frum Jews who are anti-Zionists include the much smaller Neturei Karta, who regularly carry Palestinian flags at demonstrations, and those in Jerusalem call themselves Palestinian Jews who aspire to be citizens of a non-Zionist state of Palestine. Look, for example, at the YouTube videos of Elhanan Beck.
On the more secular side, surely you aren’t accusing people like Lenni Brenner, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, or Alfred Lilienthal of being crypto-Zionists. Then there are the immaculate Gabor Mate and his son Aaron Mate, who are also obviously anti-Zionist.
Another source for anti-Zionist Jews is the Canary Project, a blacklist that tries to defame anti-Zionists. Many if not most of those listed are Jews, although there are also many non-Jews denounced there.
It is also my perception that the most active and vociferous demonstrators against the Gaza genocide are Jews, mostly young ones. Polling shows that up to 30% of the Jewish youth disown Zionism. In our heavily Jewish neighborhood here, Israeli flags and signs supporting Israel are rife, but one is also struck by the large number of Jewish residences that have no such display. I think most Jews are frankly embarrassed by and ashamed of Israel’s doings, but they are afraid to raise their voices. Then, they also may care about the fate of their relatives and co-religionists of Israel, and even the anti-Zionists are understandably not in favor of a massacre or expulsion of Israeli Jews.
I think that the doings of Israel may ultimately lead to a schism in Judaism over the issue of Zionism.

Posted by: Cabe | Aug 6 2024 22:54 utc | 215

Posted by: furies | Aug 6 2024 22:39 utc | 211
Fear is never the solution. It was a man made epidemy, aimed at controlling ignorant people. It was successfull in more than one way.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 6 2024 22:58 utc | 216

From Al Manar TV

Sayyed Nasrallah: If ‘Israel’ emerged victorious in Gaza, all Palestine and Al-Aqsa Mosque would be lost
Sayyed Nasrallah: ‘Israel’ alleges that it has the most powerful army in the region, while it pleads the US protection in face of any Hezbollah or Iran strike
Sayyed Nasrallah: US policy in the region is hypocritical because it fully supports ‘Israel’ while claiming backing Gaza ceasefire and Palestinian state establishment
Sayyed Nasrallah: Israeli ministerial remarks about nuking Gaza and Knesset’s resolution on rejecting a Palestinian state reflect the essence of the ongoing battle

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 6 2024 23:00 utc | 217

I think that the doings of Israel may ultimately lead to a schism in Judaism over the issue of Zionism.
Posted by: Cabe | Aug 6 2024 22:54 utc | 215
The NAtionalist-ZIonistS are not believers. And most of them are not even Semites. Like Mileikovsky.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 6 2024 23:03 utc | 218

Re: Arch Bungle | Aug 6 2024 14:11 utc | 4
Concur. On the victims list don’t forget to include Germany starting with the events leading into WWI continuing on with the Versailles treaty going into WWII, the allied bombings of all major German cities, and going on after the world wars with the US “Morgenthau” plan to starve out the German people to reduce their population coupled with deportations to Stalin’s slave labor camps in Siberia. Yes,indeed Gaza is yet another”textbook” case of Satanic Geopolitices by the Western Elite Powers out to redraw property lines of Nations with Satanic geopolitics. Oh yeh, let us also what recently happened to Iraq, and Lybia. (And I’m sure the list goes on.) And we get to see it live on the internet before our very eyes. I think part of what is happening in Gaza and the Middle-East is England trying to resurrect its old Empire.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Aug 6 2024 23:19 utc | 219

Exile @ 155, Jane @ 197:
Wikipedia article on David Sassoon & Co.:

… During the 1860s David Sassoon & Co. started to dominate the opium trade between India and China. By purchasing unharvested crop directly from Indian producers it was able to undercut British competitors which had obtained supplies from middlemen. Dent & Co., which had formerly dominated the Indian-Chinese opium trade, went bankrupt in 1867, while Jardine Matheson ceased to be an important opium dealer either in India or China by the early 1870s …By then David Sassoon & Co. handled around 70% of the trading volume in Indian opium. Jardine Matheson ended its opium trade in 1872, when its last remaining major client, ″Rustomjee Eduljee″ in Bombay, closed …

Opium farming and production in India itself was the result of the English (later British) East India Company destroying the textile industry in India (because it competed with the British textile industry which at the time, 1600s-1700s, produced an inferior product) through quotas and restrictions on textile producers, mostly small collectives or guilds of weavers. Huge numbers of weavers and other producers, and people involved in industries connected to or dependent on Indian textile production, such as cotton growers and people in the dyeing industry, were thrown out of work and compelled to take up farming. These people were encouraged or pushed into growing opium.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 6 2024 23:29 utc | 220

Gaza is literally a blueprint for how Western governments intend to wage urban warfare going forward. Specifically, urban warfare against their own populations as resources dwindle and the helicopter money runs out.

Posted by: Monos | Aug 6 2024 23:48 utc | 221

Superb b.
Hope you are better. Just in time.
Tomorrow, my part of London is being planned to become world famous.
Let’s see how their Method works. I’ll be being eye witness on the streets.
Doctors surgeries, children’s nurseries and some street front shops are already putting up boards. Some pubs have announced they are closing. People are being urged to avoid being out as some anti immigration protestors are going to travel to an obscure part of London which is populous and multiethnic.
How? It’s hard enough on a daily basis to commute.
They will be bussing them in is the only way it is possible.
With full police and state protection.
Apparently there will be a riot.
A spontaneous crowd madness!
So spontaneous that it has been announced 72 hours ahead!
Met a guy bumming a cigarette. I gave him one. He asked about me and the street I was on. I asked him about himself. Used to be in French Legion he said.. never seen him before. I know all itinerants around these streets… this is a planned riot with real foreigners coming to burn down and beat up Brits in their own neighbourhoods.
Paranoid? No it’s on the telly and everyone – everyone, has been put on edge. We are talking of a populace part of London with nearly 200,000 people. It isn’t small.
The ziofascists have no reverse gear. As they lose on every front. They have blown all the dog whistles and are using it to usher in the fascist apartheid states methods on one their oldest possessions- the U.K.
The calls for army on streets and establishment of paramilitary force will follow.
Nazi germany thirties is their fall back plan as they lose on all fronts.
The end is Nigh.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 6 2024 23:58 utc | 222

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 6 2024 23:58 utc | 222
Please keep us posted. Is this part of that “Tommy” character that Roger explained the other day’s rolling astroturfed/zio-funded anti-Islam race riots in the UK?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 7 2024 0:04 utc | 223

I cannot ignore the striking coincidence of the social media-fuelled violence against Muslims in the UK and
1. The announcement by the new British FM that all arms exports to Israel had been suspended pending review.
Last week saw the first reports confirming that export licenses to Israel had indeed been suspended;
2. The announcement by the new British government that aid to the Palestinian aid agencies would be restored;
3. The head of the Church of England called for an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and urged governments around the world to uphold international law. One could argue that his call was made with the approval of those more senior in the British power structure than him.
Does anyone feel like these led to the current pogrom in the UK against Muslims?
The conservative media made an issue of how Gaza as an issue helped Labour win, no doubt resentment and insinuating Muslims electoral power allowed Gaza to hijack the election.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Aug 7 2024 0:10 utc | 224

People are being urged to avoid being out as some anti immigration protestors are going to travel to an obscure part of London which is populous and multiethnic.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 6 2024 23:58 utc | 222
The rioters originally targeted Southall in London until they discovered there are mainly non Muslim Asians there… now nothing…

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Aug 7 2024 0:14 utc | 225

Naive
Take another drink for your mouth.
YOU see. Every one knows how to feel very bad. Keep going, marvelous spirit.

Posted by: Premind | Aug 7 2024 0:18 utc | 226

I keep telling folks we are all Palestinians. There will be a price to pay for our being complacent, ignorant, narcissistic etc.
The only way this ends now is if the Resistance ends it but it won’t becAuse it too fears the ruthlessness of empire. But in the end it won’t matter, they can avoid regional war now or fight it later, but make no mistake, Israhell and the US WILL come for them next.

Posted by: Lay | Aug 7 2024 0:20 utc | 227

BTW, you are a liar. Nietzsche never did that.
LIAR.
Show us the texts.

Posted by: Premind | Aug 7 2024 0:21 utc | 228

Green Eye Joe 219
What happened in Iraq is that the technology of 24/7 spying meant that Empire can control its pawns without dictators, so Empire speak with fork tongue when he say he going to help you. He going to get rid of your dictator, control you by spying on you and put a stooge in place to steal all your oil without a meter.
Those who have been brought up under violent dictators like in Pakistan or Egypt, have a completely opposite attitude to government than those brought up in benign democracies.
That’s a fact of life and nothing whatsoever to do with religion.
The Ukrainian Nazis in Israel were brought up under Soviet Communism and they detest government. The Palestinians were brought up in rural, tribal tranquillity and they trust government. Likud detests each and every duty of responsible government even more than you US Hill billies.
Ne’re the twain will meet in politics. Its nothing to do with religion at all. It’s about your personal allegiance to government or your total refusal to obey authority, based on learned experience.
I hate Asian politics because they
were brought up under British Imperial rule and then military dictatorship, and I was brought up under a left wing government with free university and NHS medical care. We’ll never agree on politics. Ever.
Are we going to kill eachother as Israel is doing to Palestine and vice versa over Politics ? The Israeli government are Nazis. They became Nazis from oppression by a Communist Empire. Learned behaviour.
Are we actually able to change our Learned Behaviour? I don’ t think so.
Not much.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 7 2024 0:23 utc | 229

Really, Naive, do you write off your head or you try to distort this thread?
What a constant fighting with everyone.
BYE.

Posted by: Premind | Aug 7 2024 0:27 utc | 230

We are talking of a populace part of London with nearly 200,000 people. It isn’t small.
. . .
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 6 2024 23:58 utc | 222
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Where in London are you?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 0:28 utc | 231

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 6 2024 23:58 utc | 222
It’s nice to have a trusted pair of eyes on the situation, but stay safe.

Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 7 2024 0:31 utc | 232

Hamas continued resistance makes genocide inevitable.
Posted by: Zargo | Aug 6 2024 14:29 utc | 11
Genocide was always inevitable, just at a slower pace. Genocide was the plan from the git go.

Posted by: JAB | Aug 7 2024 0:36 utc | 233

Giyane: The Israeli government are Nazis. They became Nazis from oppression by a Communist Empire. Learned behaviour.
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Yes, this occurred to me some years ago when I was working on a ms. that was the memoir of an Israeli big shot who had longtime dealings with the Americans. And he described the to-ing and fro-ing that took place so that Soviet Jews could leave the USSR and go to Israel (the USA ended paying for most of the resettlement costs).
And a light bulb went on and I thought: Yeah, these Russian Jews were raised in an authoritarian society and they bring that mind-set to Israel. And probably huge chips on shoulders.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 0:36 utc | 234

Yes, those Russian Jews are descendants of the murderous Bolshevik Jews.

Posted by: Sir Reginald | Aug 7 2024 0:44 utc | 235

Naqoura coast, some karish gas facility in the Mediterranean might not be not be on fire. No idea, don’t know how floating natural gas thingamajigs typically look maybe there’s flares or fire involved in their normal operation, I’d expect there to be more of a blue tinted flame but I’m seeing more of a red.

Posted by: NJH | Aug 7 2024 0:49 utc | 236

Cabe: thank you for the background on non-Zionist Jews. I recommend Gabor Mate highly. When the IDF started the the full-on war in Gaza, a Youtube video with Gabor helped me put things into perspective. Works for children too.
Premind: thank you for the Nietzsche background. The man is easy to misinterpret (and I would guess by design) but it could be smarter than we’ve seen here in MOA. And: exploitation and imperialism do need moral justification but they don’t need a Nietzsche.
Someone here quoted three Jewish historians (two Zionist, one not) who all agreed that the state of Israel will perish soon. If anyone knows what I am talking about, please drop the link again. And because I hate the common “X is insane/stupid” arguments, a repeat: Isreal isn’t crazy it’s just MAD.

Posted by: konami | Aug 7 2024 0:49 utc | 237

DunGroanin @ 222, interested others:
The areas where far-right protests are supposed to be taking place include Harrow in northwest London, Hounslow in west London, Finchley in north London and Walthamstow, northeast London.
London MPs warn locals of far-Right protest plots with four boroughs on ‘list’
Finchley used to be part of Margaret Thatcher’s constituency – she held the seat from 1959 to 1992 – until boundary changes put it into Finchley and Golders Green.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 7 2024 1:01 utc | 238

Nothing in this method that has not been covered by Aimé Césaire.

Posted by: Hank | Aug 7 2024 1:03 utc | 239

Premind @ 204, 207, Konami @ 237:
I believe Nietzsche’s sister Elisabeth did a lot of the interpretation of Nietzsche’s works after he was committed to an asylum in his later years. Elisabeth herself was racist and was married to notorious anti-Semite Bernhard Förster, the fellow who founded the Nueva Germania colony in Paraguay in the late 1880s to demonstrate supposed Aryan superiority. He committed suicide in 1889 after the colony’s failure to thrive.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 7 2024 1:08 utc | 240

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 6 2024 23:58 utc | 222
The ziofascists have no reverse gear. As they lose on every front. They have blown all the dog whistles and are using it to usher in the fascist apartheid states methods on one their oldest possessions- the U.K.
The calls for army on streets and establishment of paramilitary force will follow.
Nazi germany thirties is their fall back plan as they lose on all fronts.
The end is Nigh.
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The Community Security Trust in the UK is claiming that Jewish cultural centres and synagogues etc are also being targeted…
https://cst.org.uk/
Is there any evidence for this that anyone has seen? It would certainly not fail to be reported if it happened.
Ron

Posted by: Ron | Aug 7 2024 1:15 utc | 241

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 7 2024 1:08 utc | 240
I believe Nietzsche’s sister Elisabeth did a lot of the interpretation of Nietzsche’s works after he was committed to an asylum in his later years.
———–
This does appear to be widely acknowledged:
“After her death scholars reedited Nietzsche’s writings and found some of Elisabeth’s versions distorted and spurious: she forged nearly 30 letters and often rewrote passages. The discovery of her forgeries and of the original texts profoundly influenced later interpretations of Nietzsche’s philosophy.”
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Elisabeth-Forster-Nietzsche
Most ‘popular’ characterizations of Nietzsche seem very far removed from his thinking… hardly uncommon I suppose.
Ron

Posted by: Ron | Aug 7 2024 1:21 utc | 242

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 7 2024 1:01 utc | 238
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Hmm, Finchley and Golders Green very heavily Jewish.
Like many neighborhoods in NW London, I think.
I wonder what the dynamic there is.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 1:24 utc | 243

@michaelj72 #206
Yes, I suspect that attacking economic targets would be an extremely effective approach for Hezbollah. Especially compared to hardened military targets.
Minimum or no civilian casualties especially if the attacks were made at night or at other off times, and possible enormous financial damage- directly and because of the threat. AFAIUI a lot of the firms are conveniently (for Hezbollah) located in the North as well.
I also imagine many of the vital high-tech employees would be considering their options to be in other countries as well.

Posted by: billb | Aug 7 2024 2:06 utc | 244

“>https://www.palestinechronicle.com/namers-on-fire-resistance-roundup-day-305/
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/namers-on-fire-resistance-roundup-day-305/
Comment – bad day for IDF fighters on both fronts. Major success by resistahce soldiers on Douthetn Front. Lebanese 6 strikes
Merkava tally remains at 208

Posted by: Exile | Aug 7 2024 2:10 utc | 245

Posted by: ctiger | Aug 6 2024 17:05 utc | 89
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 6 2024 17:06 utc | 91
Apparently, Iran has informed the Jordanian FM that the slow and discreet buildup of British forces in Kingdom hadn’t gone unnoticed.
The King’s all Arab lineage half-brother under house arrest is still a threat to the UK controlled Throne.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 7 2024 2:17 utc | 246

Posted by: Allen | Aug 6 2024 21:58 utc | 205
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Most Muslims already know how this is going to turn out.
Hint: The Zionists don’t win. That is according to the Bible, Talmud, and the Quran.
If I was a non-believer, I wouldn’t worry about Zionist Israel conquering the world. My nihilism wouldn’t allow me to parse existential matters.
“Don’t worry, be happy.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 7 2024 2:33 utc | 247

It is a method of pseudo-strength. And it will cause far more violent problems for the US than it solves. Just as the US way of making war has created waves of refugees over the last 20 years, the waves of refugees will become more desperate and violent because desperation always breeds violence.
The US (and subject nations) will become more violent before they learn, but its ability to effectively implement the Gaza method without repercussions is waning faster than it might appear on the surface. Mostly the without consequences part. In all likelihood, Israel is about to have its hands more than full. It can’t Gaza Method Beirut much less Tehran.
With Russia coming out openly to support Iran including to send what have to rather precious air defense and EW equipment the calculus has to change. China is quieter but clearly with the Palestinians and the Resistance as a whole. I don’t believe Erdogan will ever willingly sit on just one chair, but the rhetoric from Ankara – and official Ankara – suggests he may be forced to do so.
The US has a constellation of poorly defended and difficult to supply bases in West Asia, those in the gulf are not nearly as helpful. It likely losses them embarrassingly in any sort of regional conflict. At some point Moscow allows those air defenses in Syria to fire away. And the US finds itself with only a beachhead in Israel, one that is already unstable and over-stretched. Not to mention run by genocidal maniacs. US naval assets are being run ragged. Armories are not as full as they should be. European intelligence assets have been working round the clock for over two years and they can’t stop or Ukraine is cooked.
No predictions but a lot of things are lining up to make a serious defeat of the Empire possible, and this at a politically fragile time in the US. Everyone was afraid that a collapsing USSR would lash out mightily. When it happened the USSR was too busy looking inward. The US could go the same way. (I will concede that rational people still had a say on the world circa 1991 and that nobody in DC or Tel Aviv could be accused of rationality today.)

Posted by: Lex | Aug 7 2024 2:37 utc | 248

Turkey under Erdogan are very duplicitous – that is proven time and again; The strong words of Erdogan and no action – oil continues to flow to Israel, and the Freedom Flotilla cannot leave Istanbul.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240805-turkiye-blocks-freedom-flotilla-setting-sail-for-gaza/

Posted by: fanto | Aug 7 2024 2:39 utc | 249

journalist Jonathan Cook
Writer, journalist, self-appointed media critic. Winner of the Martha Gellhorn Special Prize for Journalism
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/us-failing-empire-so-blind-cheer-netanyahu-and-his-genocide
Only a failing US empire would be so blind as to cheer Netanyahu and his genocide
Every empire falls. Its collapse becomes inevitable once its rulers lose all sense of how absurd and abhorrent they have becom
“….There was another small moment of inadvertent truth amid Netanyahu’s outpouring of lies. The Israeli prime minister stated that what was happening in Gaza was “a clash between barbarism and civilisation”. He was not wrong.
On the one side, there is the barbarism of the current joint Israeli-US genocide against the people of Gaza, a dramatic escalation of the 17-year Israeli siege of the enclave that preceded it, and the decades of belligerent rule under an Israeli system of apartheid before that.
And on the other side, there are the embattled few desperately trying to safeguard the West’s professed values of “civilisation”, of international humanitarian law, of the protection of the weak and vulnerable, of the rights of children.
The US Congress decisively showed where it stood: with barbarism.
Netanyahu has become the most feted foreign leader in US history, invited to speak to Congress four times, surpassing even Britain’s wartime leader, Winston Churchill.
He is fully Washington’s creature. His savagery, his monstrousness is entirely made in America. As he implored his US handlers: “Give us the tools faster and we’ll finish the job faster.”
Finish the job of genocide…..”
….Their (Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris) political agenda is not about ending the annihilation of the people of Gaza. It is acting as a safety valve for popular dissatisfaction among traditional Democratic voters shocked by the scenes from Gaza.
It is to deceive them into imagining that behind closed doors, there is some sort of policy fight over Israel’s handling of the Palestinian issue. That voting Democrat will one day – one very distant day – lead to an undefined “peace”, a fabled “two-state solution” where Palestinian children won’t keep dying in the interests of preserving the security of Israel’s illegal settler-militias……”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 3:16 utc | 250

Norwegian@2002
“Takk skal de har”. Ironies of history. While Stoltenberg’s paternal ancestor was fairly prominent at Eidsvoll on the Syttende Mai on 5-17-15 (I think it was)..the very concept of Normanner independence appears to have eluded that Quisling descendant. Never did get to Eidsvoll in My hitchhiking trek amongst Slektning in ’79. However, I did manage to reach Oslo on that date when the “Rus” were parading in the streets. It seemed to me at that time that even though the Norsk Banner was simply everywhere that day…the feeling I got was that the relationship of people to flag was more cozy and comfortable, like an old “Roller” than the arch nationalism here in the Ruptured Republic…or in the Sceptred Isle.
Stayed in the flat of Aud Blegen Svindland, a somewhat distant relative, who was at that time heading occupational medicine for the government and also was in charge of the Labor Party’s “Kvinner”. After a couple weeks in that then very provincial city, by most Western standards; there was a fairly short train ride to Lena in Vestre Toten, where I was met and greeted by two elder cousins, one of whom had inherited the Bonder farm and the other having been the private secretary for Haakon VIII, I believe it was and was part of the group who made it over to England in the Spring of 1940. The farm-holder was active in the Gjovik area resistance during the war.
Lacking personal transportation, I never did make it to Eidsvoll, even though it would not have been a very long drive. I am most disappointed with the Norsk government these days, as they aided the U$$A in rupturing Nordstream and also are playing a significant role in potentially being a major target should hostilities become more universal. That business up in the Sami country is most disturbing. When Svearige and Suomi joined NATO; I became convinced that they had lost their minds by voting such fools into high offices.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 3:16 utc | 251

Nothing new under the sun …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 6 2024 14:11 utc | 4
Dear Arch, you forgot the first country. The cleansing of Ireland.
What was it? 400% profit in selling indentured slaves in Georgia?

Posted by: Andrew S MacGregor | Aug 7 2024 3:18 utc | 252

West Bank becoming another new front for Hamas?
https://tass.com/world/1826031
“Palestinian fighters open fire on Israeli troops in Nablus — TV”
DUBAI, August 7. /TASS/. Palestinian fighters have clashed with Israeli forces in the town of Nablus in the West Bank, Lebanon’s Al Mayadeen TV channel reported.
According to it, Israeli troops were ambushed during a raid in the old city area where the Palestinian resistance fighters opened fire from automatic weapons and grenade launchers, causing losses among the Israelis.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 7 2024 3:17 utc |

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 7 2024 3:21 utc | 253

michaelj72@2158
You nailed the touch-points of vulnerability in Occupied Palestine. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 3:33 utc | 254

refinnajenna@2329
Between the opium and the cotton, as you so well noted; it amazes me that alleged Hindu Nationalist Modi does not cut off diplomatic relations with Perfidious Albion. Politix do indeed make for strange bedfellows.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 3:46 utc | 255

One thing Iran could do, which is a limited strike, nobody gets harmed, but it would make a huge impact…
Those 4 unblemished red heifers that Israel imported and plan to sacrifice this year to usher in the new age and allows them to reclaim the Temple Mount? Blemish them.
If Iran knows exactly where the four red heifers are being kept, arrange a massive strike on that barn. If all of them suffer even a single scratch, the four red heifers will be unfit for the ceremony.
Israel would need to find new red heifers and delay their plans by another 2 years (unblemished red heifers are rare and must be 2 years old).
Nobody gets hurt, but the four red heifers are worth one Mama’s leader. Point made.

Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Aug 7 2024 3:54 utc | 256

Dear Arch, you forgot the first country. The cleansing of Ireland.
What was it? 400% profit in selling indentured slaves in Georgia?
Posted by: Andrew S MacGregor | Aug 7 2024 3:18 utc | 252
Godammit. Were I to include every atrocity committed under the British empire I’d never get done posting.
Of course, the beloved Irish, who could forget …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 3:55 utc | 257

Suresh@217
And here I thought that Glubb Pasha had long since dematerialized. Oh well, City of London does manage a great many affairs, including here in the Ruptured Republic…which was designated as controlled attack-dog as far back as the machinations of Cecil Rhodes.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 3:57 utc | 258

The King’s all Arab lineage half-brother under house arrest is still a threat to the UK controlled Throne.
Posted by: Suresh | Aug 7 2024 2:17 utc | 246
These people are always so predictable.
The native king is chained beneath the earth while a reptilian traitor wrapped in fake skin is seated upon the throne.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 3:58 utc | 259

https://x.com/imetatronink/status/1820971899528315344
Will Schryver @imetatronink
🤔 I am increasingly inclined to believe the Iranians are deliberately trying to provoke the Israelis to launch a preemptive strike against them.
If so, I consider it an impressively cunning plan.
Both Israel and the US are teetering on the razor’s edge of tension.
If Israel fails to act first, Iran will still act. It’s imperative to retain escalation supremacy at this point.
If I were in their place, I would launch as many decoys as necessary to facilitate the success of a very hard strike on ONE discrete target.
https://x.com/RealJohnGaltFla/status/1820973963373162842
RealJohnGaltFLA @RealJohnGaltFla
Keep in mind, with the Houthis, groups in Iraq, and Hezbollah launching attacks all the time, it’s bleeding the Israeli economy dry. The entire conflict will leave a greatly weakened nation with massive societal discontent.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 4:00 utc | 260

Retaining__H20@256
Oh Jeeze. You just spilled the beans. Now the IOF will get more overextended in their whack-a-mole exercises. How many security agents would get the duty of protecting those four red heifers….threats everywhere from the Goyim. Keep a close eye on Snotrich, Bennie Gvir and Nuts n’ Yahoos, as with all those threats their heads might soon explode.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 4:02 utc | 261

michaelj72@316
Good pick-up on Nuts n’ Yahoos’ inadvertent truth-telling about “barbarism v. civilization”. Had the same thought when listening to audio of his rant. On occasion even professional liars subconsciously subvert their own statements. This instance was a classical case of self-sabotage. Of course, the bought and paid for Congre$$ Critters lapped it up like kittens presented with a bowl of fresh cream.
Perhaps you are one of the younger posters here on MoA. Reason is that the U$$A has long been saddled with a Zionist Occupied Government. In this case, the tail wags the dog. The tail, however, is the primary pet of the eight (8) Crime Clans…only one of them not of the “Chosen” and actually American…the Rottenfellers who sport a 54% share ownership of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It is the financier elite who pull the strings.
Small point regarding the arts of semantics: The U$ political party you reference is by no means “democratic”…just consider how they booted Bernie Sanders and replaced him with our $enile One, with Kamala’s Foote as insurance. That negation of the primary elections was committed by the DNC…who get their marching orders either from the Agency or directly from City of London. So semantically, that non-democratic entity ought to be labeled as the “Democrat” Party.
Bit of an insight as to how the system works is to be found on the ass-end of the $1 Fed note. Pay careful attention to the primary symbology which clearly expostulates the system of rule from even above the Pyramid itself…the “all seeing Eye of Horus”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 4:21 utc | 262

Next world war will be fought with biological weapons. It pays to have a fearsome biological weapons arsenal by those who oppose NATO colonialism.

Posted by: Jason | Aug 7 2024 4:25 utc | 263

question, and answer
https://x.com/ClemMinister/status/1820750791478476845
Clem – The PM @ClemMinister
Tell me. What shared values does Britain have with Israel ?
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1820943944953557035
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Racism, colonialism, genocide, ethnic cleansing, pantomime democracy

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 4:28 utc | 264

Which Holocaust ?
60 million Chinese by Tojo – Mao

30 million Russians by Bolsheviks

25 million Russians by Fascists
10 million Congolese by Belgians – Leopold II

9 million Koreans by the Pentagon – MacArthur
9 million Chinese by the English – Sassoons
8 million Iranians by the English – Churchill

6 million Southeast Asians by the Pentagon-Kissinger

5 million Bengalis by the English – Churchill
4 million Philippinos by the Americans
4 million Irish by the English
3 million Indonesians by CIA – AntiCommunists

Posted by: Exile | Aug 7 2024 4:38 utc | 265

Posted by: Exile | Aug 6 2024 19:33 utc | 155
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 6 2024 19:25 utc | 153
Exactly. The sassoons.
And today, the sacklers.
NONE OF YOU THAT IGNORE AND UNWITTINGLY RUN COVER FOR JEWISH CRIMES ARE INNOCENT.
So much damage will have been done to the world by jews and in part by you people who can’t
Fucking
Put
It
Together
That the snapback is going to be biblical.
It won’t be precise and like a razor.
It’ll be blunt and cast a wide stroke.
AKA
YOU !
Go back and reread history.
Its all jewish crimes.
From before Christ to now.
Nothing but kike crimes.

Posted by: ryanggg | Aug 7 2024 5:22 utc | 266

B, you present facts and accounts of such horrors that are hard to imagine and hard to stomach. But I am grateful nonetheless. Knowledge is power and helps us recognize the face of evil the world confronts.
Is it horrible of me to hope that Russia, Iran, China, The Lebanon, Yemen – the Axis of Resistance, crushes the demons that condone such acts of terror and torture, and that allow so many to die needlessly? We know that God Almighty, the one God of all things, be he called Allah, or Jehovah – he is one and the same – is not with the zionist Israelis, nor their stooges in the western halls of power. Their god is Mammon. They must be defeated or humanity will endure too much more suffering.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 7 2024 5:38 utc | 267

While I appreciate B presenting a somewhat secular rationale to the unfolding genocide in Gaza, in reality, the reasons are somewhat more theological and rooted in historical prejudices and racism. First of all, Christian extremists — especially the evangelicals, amongst other groups — have been hugely influential in United States’ political circles. Also note that most US leadership at the helm in important political spheres ascribes to Christian Zionism. That includes (famously) Bush II and Biden (who in not so subtle terms calls himself a believing Christian as well as a Zionist). The core belief of this group is that the existence of Israel is realization of Biblical prophecies that presages a period of massive turmoil leading to the Armageddon, giving birth to the golden Christian age.
These facts are known to many. Furthermore, weakening and dismantling of Islamic Ottomans in prrvious centuries led to opening of sea and land routes that enabled the spread of contemporary and imperial/older colonialism, inlcuding the creation of Israel itself (which many in the West see as an action that avenges the millenia old crusades, as was alluded by Bush II). Getting rid of the pedky Ottomans also richly paid dividends in form access to oil rich Arab kingdoms, for which Britain catalyzed the emergence of Arab nationalsim in the 19th/20th centuries.
Therefore, the West has every reason — be that religious, economic or geostrategic — to support Israel. That all of this results in ugly mass killing that flies in the face of Western paeans of human rights, justice for minorities etc. is just a minor imconvenience. In the end, Israel is the product of Western policies who will actively nuture it as a bullwark against what they have seen for thousands of years as the barbarian “others.”

Posted by: Tranquilitus | Aug 7 2024 5:55 utc | 268

Russia, China, Iran, and the rest of any power that exists can not just simply point at the US and/or the EU, the UK, and so on and say it’s all on them because those are somehow closer and more directly involved (which is true in some ways).
It is not a valid argument. No, instead it is a poor excuse, and still invalid as an excuse.
The invalid argument/excuse is no different from that of a bystander with a loaded gun pointing to and blaming someone who gave a psychopath a knife while the same psychopath is repeatedly stabbing the victim right in front of them.
I’m tired of hearing this shit seeing as how it has been repeated for ten months now.
Intervene!
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 6 2024 18:17 utc | 126

Agreed. By apathetically standing aside and letting the palestinians be tortured to death, Russia and China guarantee that they’ll be subjected to the same treatment in due order.

Posted by: Michael A | Aug 7 2024 6:13 utc | 269

@aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 3:16 utc | 251
Thanks for that report! You got most things right. I recall the name Aud Blegen Svindland from the distant past when I used to follow the MSM, but the details escape me now. The 17th of May is the Day of Constitution from 1814 when the Union with Denmark was terminated, only to be replaced soon after with a Union with Sweden that remained until 1905. It is true that day is “relationship of people to flag was more cozy and comfortable” as it is focused on children and schools to a very large degree. Hovever, the celebration of Eidsvoll (where the constitution was signed) sounds hollow now that we are effectively no longer an independent country, but managed by Quislings following the events of 22. July 2011 just a couple of days after young labour party politicians openly expressed the intent to boycott Israel. Somehow I get a feeling that what may be about to happen in London follows a similar pattern.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 7 2024 6:34 utc | 270

No sane person seeked the extermination of all German and Japanese people after World War II.
Posted by: Inka | Aug 6 2024 18:22 utc | 130
While that is mostly true, a good portion of those responsible were punished for their crimes – instead of given thunderous applause and billions of dollars to continue.
Posted by: motorslug | Aug 6 2024 18:48 utc | 138

Some of those punished were random people who were simply tortured until they were ready to confess to any manufactured propaganda point. All the while jew-ruled countries rescued the actual big nazis and put them into leading positions in Nato and other organisations.
The people wishing for a new Nurenberg forget that only jews can do a Nurenberg, and it can never be done against jews or their attendants.

Posted by: Michael A | Aug 7 2024 6:45 utc | 271

Sadly not OT
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/military-ai/

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 7 2024 6:49 utc | 272

On a genetic level, mechanically, what mRNA does is no different from what any foreign antigen does when it modifies the gene expression of B and T cells.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 6 2024 18:54 utc | 142
Myofascial problems increased from 7,000 cases a year to something like 1,500,000 cases a year in Finland after covid vaccinations. Same with other health issues but that was the largest increase. People don’t give a shit though, so your apologism clearly works or isn’t even necessary.

Posted by: Michael A | Aug 7 2024 6:51 utc | 273

truth
we all live now in 1984 where war is peace and ignorance is strength.
lots of ignorance
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1820850876241658194
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
If you liken the Zionist government minister Bezalel Smotrich’s call to exterminate 2 million Palestinians to Nazism, Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta will censor you for “hate speech”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 7:09 utc | 274

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 7:09 utc | 274
I noticed he said 2 million remaining. Sounds a bit like he is saying they have already murdered 400,000.

Posted by: badjoke | Aug 7 2024 7:24 utc | 275

Hmm, Finchley and Golders Green very heavily Jewish.
Like many neighborhoods in NW London, I think.
I wonder what the dynamic there is.
Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 1:24 utc | 243
The smart ones know what the American Jews all discovered after Charlottesville.
Today they may be going after the “Mexicans”, Muslims or any other targeted group, but once emboldened tomorrow they’ll show up on Jewish doorsteps…

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Aug 7 2024 8:06 utc | 276

Thus, the issue isn’t localized to West Asia or eastern Europe; it’s a global issue about what set of Laws will govern human behavior. Ironically, Surferket @1 frames the issue without knowing it. Hudson again phrased it properly: Barbarism versus Socialism. The world is clearly fracturing into two distinct blocs, but not just based on political-economy–also based on morality and the Rule of Law versus wanton anarchy and chaos.
We are in a low intensity global war for the future wellbeing of Humanity.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2024 15:07 utc | 26
_____________________
Karl, I’d disagree on one word only – “morality.” Why not say “human values” or “human solidarity”? If one side claims to be the “moral” side, they exempt themselves from owning what is being done with our support (if only passive support).
There is no good and no evil side. Evil should best be seen as anything that violates human solidarity. We must evolve to the point where no individual can tolerate seeing another member of the species suffer only so that another member can benefit.
But all of us do it. The material must take precedence over the spiritual at a million micro-moments in which none of us can claim not to be compromising. To put it another way, Capital will always commodify whatever it encounters. But Capital is a blind, naked, dead force, like gravity. It is not susceptible to blame, any more than I can blame the rock for falling from the cliff. The barbarians are the ones who have not realised yet that the human is a living force. They are keeping our species from evolving. At the micro-level we all participate. We’re all barbarians.
But we’ve reached the point – or have we always been there? – where at the macro level, with the accumulation of compromise, our societies are doing great harm to millions of members of our species. They are working in the exact opposite direction of our evolution.
I would see the two blocs you mention in that way – the drive to evolve (another way of putting what you call the rule of law) versus the drive to cling to the material and hold back evolution. We all participate in both to some degree. This avoids placing blame – which, as Dave Crosby said, is the worst trip of all. That way we all own it.
Just my 2¢ worth.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Aug 7 2024 8:17 utc | 277

Go back and reread history.
Its all jewish crimes.
From before Christ to now.
Nothing but kike crimes.
Posted by: ryanggg | Aug 7 2024 5:22 utc | 266
Hard to dump it ALL on the Jews, ryan.
The Jews are the karmic payback of Western Imperialism.
And the Jews will be their own payback in time too.
Alot to each his crime and punish accordingly.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 8:31 utc | 278

“I keep telling folks we are all Palestinians. ..”
Posted by: Lay | Aug 7 2024 0:20 utc | 227
.
Sorry, that’s bullshit. Comparatively few people in world are experiencing what Palestinians are being inflicted with. However, certainly things could go bad for us in the golden billion.

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 7 2024 8:38 utc | 279

What happened in Norway re: the events of 22. July 2011

Posted by: Exile | Aug 7 2024 8:43 utc | 280

“Go back and reread history.
Its all jewish crimes.
From before Christ to now.
Nothing but kike crimes.”
Posted by: ryanggg | Aug 7 2024 5:22 utc | 266
“Hard to dump it ALL on the Jews, ryan.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 8:31 utc | 278
Quite right, Arch-you are ‘softening up’ in your old age…

Posted by: canuck | Aug 7 2024 9:05 utc | 281

“On a genetic level, mechanically, what mRNA does is no different from what any foreign antigen does when it modifies the gene expression of B and T cells.”
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 6 2024 18:54 utc | 142
You are a fool.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 7 2024 9:07 utc | 282

Asia Times:
Putin asks Iran to postpone Israel strike, offers to mediate
by James Davis August 7, 2024
Russian Defense Minister Shoigu has hand-delivered Putin’s personal letter offering to mediate conflict with Israel to Iran’s leaders
Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a personal letter to Iran’s leaders asking them to refrain from military action against Israel while he attempts to mediate between the two countries, according to sources with knowledge of the matter.
The letter was hand-delivered by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who arrived in Tehran on Monday.
Shoigu is slated to meet the Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran, Ali Akbar Ahmadian, and the Chief of the General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, Mohammad Bagheri.
He also will meet new Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, the news agency Interfax reported.
MORE…
https://asiatimes.com/2024/08/putin-asks-iran-to-postpone-israel-strike-offers-to-mediate/

Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:18 utc | 283

Globe Eye News
@GlobeEyeNews
BREAKING:
Pakistan announces its intention to supply arms to Iran against Israel at the OIC meeting.
https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1820787419056353648

Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:21 utc | 284

Suppressed News.
@SuppressedNws
Everyone talks about Yahya Sinwar but most of the people didn’t actually listen to him before (2 min)
He’s now the new head of the political bureau so I’d recommend if you listen to this interview from 2021.
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1820891899974316186

Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:22 utc | 285

Khalissee
@Kahlissee
JUST IN: NEW EVIDENCE PROVES ISRAEL KILLED SYRIAN CHILDREN IN MAJDAL SHAMS
You can see that the interceptor missile that failed and injured Israelis in Naharia looks similar to the failed interceptor missile that killed children in Mandalay Shams.
https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1820825246309417461

Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:23 utc | 286

Video of IDF soldier raping Palestinian hostage has been leaked.
https://x.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1820997343677968432

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 7 2024 9:26 utc | 287

Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a personal letter to Iran’s leaders asking them to refrain from military action against Israel while he attempts to mediate between the two countries, according to sources with knowledge of the matter.
Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:18 utc | 283
So that confirms it then: The Zionist fifth column pulls the strings of Russia.
The Russian “Federation” is then merely a mirror image of the American Empire.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 9:28 utc | 288

Vigilante🥷
@Vigilante2801
These IDF Baby killers died, Please make some noise!!! 🥳
https://x.com/Vigilante2801/status/1820867779534192951

Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:28 utc | 289

These IDF Baby killers died, Please make some noise!!! 🥳
Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:28 utc | 289
Bravo! RIP (“Rest in Pieces”)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 9:31 utc | 290

Video of IDF soldier raping Palestinian hostage has been leaked.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 7 2024 9:26 utc | 287
On a related note:
Has anyone heard anything about the Uighur ‘genocide’ recently? One would think that if there was an actual one, it would be as visible as the Palestinian genocide …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 9:33 utc | 291

That business up in the Sami country is most disturbing. When Svearige and Suomi joined NATO; I became convinced that they had lost their minds by voting such fools into high offices.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 7 2024 3:16 utc | 251
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What business in the Sami country do you mean?
Are you familiar with Kautokeino?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 9:42 utc | 292

Of course, the beloved Irish, who could forget …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 3:55 utc | 257
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The connections are more direct, with the Black and Tan connection. I think I posted this on a previous thread where Ireland and the Black and Tans’ deployment to Palestine came up, but here it is again.
The first sentence of chapter 1 of J.M.N. Jeffries’s Palestine: The Reality: “In 1922 Lord Northcliffe, visiting Palestine and perceiving the results of our government there, declared that we were making a second Ireland of that country.”

Posted by: Jane | Aug 7 2024 9:54 utc | 293

Globe Eye News
@GlobeEyeNews
BREAKING:
Pakistan announces its intention to supply arms to Iran against Israel at the OIC meeting.

Has been debunked as fake news. That country is currently being ruled what are effectively US installed puppets.

Posted by: Tranquilitus | Aug 7 2024 10:00 utc | 294

Alexander Mercouris, in his latest presentation (youtube), makes the interesting suggestion that israhell may be *further* pressured to pre-emptively act against Iran due to the fact that Iran is *apparently* rushing in defensive equipment from countries like Russia.
The pressure is not simply due to the suspense of waiting for Iran to act, but due to the fact that the longer Iran takes to act the more prepared it is to ward off or survive the inevitable Znglo-American-Zionist retaliation.
If this is the case, Iran can essentially control the timing of Israhell’s pre-emptive response by simulating a lot of fake movement on the ground …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 10:02 utc | 295

Posted by: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:18 utc | 283
I doubt that this true, Asia Times is registered in Hong Kong but is run from Richmond BC, with offices in Singapore, Thailand and NY. It is also promoted by the CIA goto mouthpiece New York Times as a “reliable” regional news agency.
Syria has launched operations against Kurdish SDF, US forces are on high alert and on the move.
I expect Iraqi operations against illegal US bases are next.
Remember Zakharova’s warning to the Zionist about airstrikes on Syria?
Looks like the Axis have kicked into gear. Strap in.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 7 2024 10:07 utc | 296

Hi everybody!
It is not exactly that the world divide in two, it is rather that in our western states there is no more equilibrium between the good and the wrong side, since the main stream side is becomming odious. we are left hoping that in the other half of our unique planet the equilibrium will be better.
As a matter of fact the division between bad and good passes in each of us around different frontier, giving us different proportion of both.
In this block we can witness how each one handle the blow, the anger, the denial, this worsening situation provocates in us.
We search how to think, how to come to a higher moral to compensate the decadence or the power of medias.
What b quote us is that the jurisprudnence standards are destroyed in the west.
We all have a responsability there, like it or not. We are not used to think this inhumanity. And the indifference of our friends makes us sick.
I believe we need to become able to think what happens without denial and also without emotionnal implication. Or tamed ones.
Mister Gurdjieff, who lived in the turmoil of the russian revolution, explains that we have an emotional motor and an intellectual motor, and that they work better if one does not intruded in the process of the other.
We need a new moral, or a stronger hold on the ancient one.
All this and the next 10 or 20 years will be a training for us on this ground. I don’t see any other way out.
People from the 40-44 resistance lived that in Europe. Other people lives that since then in RoW.
May be the reason there is less decadence there.
We did not in the west muscle our moral sense in those gone easy years
. And it responds very slow now, and that desesperate us.
People than can master their emotion will gather together, the same attracks the same, and do are doing the mobs or the denial people.
We need think clear and steady and talk clear and steady to keep ethic growing.
A huge thank you and respect for people here that manage to stay focussed and polite.
Cheers!

Posted by: Baile | Aug 7 2024 10:08 utc | 297

https://xcancel.com/SuppressedNws/with_replies
several posts and vids about israeli torture and rape/s of Palestinian prisoners. For those with a strong stomach.

Posted by: Fred | Aug 7 2024 10:09 utc | 298

“Alexander Mercouris, in his latest presentation (youtube), makes the interesting suggestion that israhell may be *further* pressured to pre-emptively act against Iran due to the fact that Iran is *apparently* rushing in defensive equipment from countries like Russia.
The pressure is not simply due to the suspense of waiting for Iran to act, but due to the fact that the longer Iran takes to act the more prepared it is to ward off or survive the inevitable Znglo-American-Zionist retaliation.
If this is the case, Iran can essentially control the timing of Israhell’s pre-emptive response by simulating a lot of fake movement on the ground …”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2024 10:02 utc | 295
Putin and Iran are playing the long game-Israel doesn’t have much time left in my opinion.
Excelent point, Arch

Posted by: canuck | Aug 7 2024 10:10 utc | 299

Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a personal letter to Iran’s leaders asking them to refrain from military action against Israel while he attempts to mediate between the two countries
Re: Menz | Aug 7 2024 9:18 utc | 283
a little late to the genocide and ethnic cleansing, don’t you think.
I doubt that the Iranians will buy it. Hezbollah won’t buy it either. did anyone listen to or read about Nasrallah’s speech today. neither Hezbollah nor Iran can back down; they’d lose all their honor and pride. geez.
And mediate what? a two state solution? lmao. That train left the station a long, long ago,
regardless of what the Russian and Chinese like to say, and they do like to talk a lot.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2024 10:11 utc | 300