Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 15, 2024
FT Reports A Ukrainian Warcrime

The willful killing of unarmed soldiers, especially when there is a good chance of taking them prisoners, is certainly a war crime.

It is astonishing that Christopher Miller of the Financial Times reports of it without further comment.

How Ukraine pulled off its biggest gamble: invading Russia (archived) – Financial Times, Aug 12, 2024

As Volodymyr prepared to enter Russian territory, adrenaline ran through his veins. It was not lost on him that 81 years ago, another battle in Russia’s Kursk region marked a turning point for Europe.

“We entered Russian territory for the first time at 1pm on Tuesday [August 6],” Volodymyr said. “We were among the first to enter there.”

To his astonishment, his unit faced no resistance as their eight-wheeled, 20 tonne US Stryker fighting vehicle stormed across the border in broad daylight.

They soon encountered a Russian unit “sitting in the forest, drinking coffee at a table”, Volodymyr recalled. “Then our Stryker drives right into their table.

“We killed many of them on the first day,” he said. “Because they were unarmed and didn’t expect us.”

Not wanting to end up like their comrades, he added, “dozens” of stunned Russian soldiers simply laid down their weapons and surrendered.


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"81 years ago, another battle in Russia’s Kursk region marked a turning point for Europe," writes Miller. He and others should consider what that really means. If I remember correctly, the German fascists and their Ukrainian allies also committed war crimes – and lost the fight.

Comments

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 15 2024 17:44 utc | 190
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Where are the F-16s?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2024 18:08 utc | 201

Andrew Sarchus | Aug 15 2024 18:04 utc | 200
Don’t feed the trolls. They swamp the threads.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:08 utc | 202

zeke2u@133 asks questions: “Political and morale victory?” A closer look at the events diminishes it as a military victory. It makes it easier to loan Ukraine money, for one thing, so that’s one political plus. It encourages the NATO generals to think their foe is a pushover, that’s a morale victory.
“What about events on the ground?” Correct, that’s why I agree it is wrong to simply call it Ukrainian victory.
“How can it be considered a political or moral victory?” Because this is not a war between fascist Ukraine and Russia, it’s a war on Russia. It is advantageous to those EU and US soldiers pursuing this war to present such a political and morale victory as justification for further expansion of the war. And they need to expand the war even more precisely because the Ukrainian front is ultimately in parlous shape indeed. But ultimately may not matter if they expand the war and nothing promotes a war like the prospect of an easy victory. Maybe especially if it’s wishful thinking rather than sound analysis.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 15 2024 18:09 utc | 203

“Incidentally both the Ritter and the McGregor new analyses are qualitatively better than usual.”
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 17:11 utc | 173
They both can be repetitive (expected) and too emotional (not good). I appreciate transparent ideology and editorial positions but not a “soap box” speech.
That said I think you make a point about quality.
The host matters a lot.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Aug 15 2024 18:11 utc | 204

zeke2u@1723
Fine wrap and buttressing. Military history buff, no doubt and well-studied in the field. Although socialist mobilization of industrial and military forces were highly instrumental in the Red Army’s ultimate victory; there does happen to be a back story, little known by most military analysts.
Harken back to City of London, where operational patterns are schemed out years and occasionally decades in advance of developments on the fields. Think Perfidious Albion, with the U$$A as its ultimate back-stop and supplier of goods and services…as well as ultimately assuming the role of military attack-dog. Though still controlling various elements of the American financial sector and media control; the British elite had come to realize that at that juncture the U$ possessed the resources and the activatable population to superficially dominate both of those fields.
Commencing fairly early in the 30’s, the Soviet state began to be blessed with incredible quantities of machine-tools and even entire industrial plants. Big money was behind that development. With a highly socialized population…at least in the major cities and industrial centers; the Soviet Union was quite capable of creating the war-machine which you deftly described.
Without massive financial and industrial assistance from the West, mainly the FDR regime in the Di$trict of Corruption, teamed up with Wall $treet…it is highly probable that the Soviet war-machine could not have been developed as rapidly as it did .
Deeply ensconced behind the scenes was the traditional Sceptred Isle scheme to keep Germany down and Russia out.
The master-plan was that both combatants (the Germans too had been “blessed” with heavy financial assistance to build up their forces)…that even after Germany’s humbling by the post Armistice British hunger blockade of German ports and the vicious “reparations”, that the Germans were crushed into massive inflation in ’23.
Geopolitically thinking, it is the course of wisdom to consider little moves between FDR and Whitehall/ Downing Street, as well as The City, to set up Poland and its Smigly Ridz regime to stress out the Germans over mistreatment of German ethnics in Poland and more importantly for Poland to utterly refuse the German offer to build a combination railroad and autobahn route through the fairly narrow Polish Corridor between the Reich with Danzig (90% German port city) on the Vistula estuary. It is not unlikely that the Germans were fairly open-ended in this request. Essentially, it was both economic and nationally political, as was the Austrian Anschluss…a nationalist, populist unification of the German speaking people.
Poland could have countered with their own terms, favoring themselves, while somewhat fair to both parties. With such an offered aparatura from Warsaw, Berlin may have acceded to negotiations.
Pigheadedly, the Warsaw regime swallowed whole the British and French “guarantees” to “have their back”. Yeah, that’s why so many close observers called the Allied response a “Sitzkrieg”. They took no actions to assault the thinly defended Siegfried Line in direct support of the hapless Poles. That non-response was part of the master-plan to finagle the Germans and the Russians to bleed each other dry.
“Hail Brittania”…or should we agree that Perfidious Albion would be a more fitting sobriquet?

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 18:12 utc | 205

@ Honzo | Aug 15 2024 17:14 utc | 174
good analogy!! thanks…

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2024 18:12 utc | 206

As threatened, “Maria Zakharova’s Moldova Update”.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:16 utc | 207

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk Direction: Destruction of HIMARS MLRS in Sumy Region and Battles in Korenevo and Sudzha Districts
What is known as of 8:00 PM on August 15, 2024
In the Kursk Region, there are ongoing clashes along the entire line of contact. Ukrainian formations periodically attempt to improve their tactical position, but face resolute resistance from Russian troops.
🔻In the Lgov District, the enemy twice shelled the administrative center, using rockets with cluster munitions. Four civilians were wounded, two of whom were hospitalized, and there was damage to civilian infrastructure and residential buildings.
🔻In the Korenevo District, the positions of the AFU were hit near Snagost, Olhovka, Uspenkа, and Matveyevka. Near Kremyanoye, an attempt by the enemy to enter the settlement was repelled, and in Lyubimovka, Lancet UAV operators destroyed another AFU Kazak armored vehicle. According to the Ministry of Defense, Ukrainian formations also advanced towards Sheptukhovka and Kauchuk, but without success.
Near Mogritsа, a HIMARS MLRS was destroyed by a missile strike. This was likely the same system that fired at the bridge in Glushkovo at night, resulting in the detonation of its ammunition.
🔻In the Sudzha District, Russian troops hit enemy concentration areas near Yuzhnoye, Zaoleshenkа, and Mirnoye. Battles continue on the approaches to Martynivka and near the village of Agronom.
The enemy continues to post footage from the western and central parts of Sudzha. Representatives of the Italian press have also visited the occupied city. At the same time, no video materials have been posted from the eastern outskirts by either side.
🔻In the Belovo District, Russian troops cleared the settlement of Krupets. Earlier, footage was published of the shelling of Ukrainian positions in Kamyshnoe, a few kilometers to the east, where fighting continues.
❗️The Commander-in-Chief of the AFU, Oleksandr Syrskyi, announced the creation of a “military commandant’s office” in the occupied territory of the Kursk Region, which he claims will be responsible for “maintaining law and order and ensuring the priority needs of the population.” However, in reality, this is just another media ploy by the Ukrainian authorities, which will effectively operate only virtually.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17008

Posted by: Down South | Aug 15 2024 18:17 utc | 208

“I encourage you to keep calm and give the hostage negotiators a chance to talk the psychos down and let everyone walk out of the building.”
Posted by: Honzo | Aug 15 2024 17:14 utc | 174

Famous unremembered last words of Honzo.
Ummm… Iran, Lebanon and later Israel are definitely getting nuked.
I’m not going to miss Israel… or anything am I?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Aug 15 2024 18:17 utc | 209

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 15 2024 18:03 utc | 199
> Here is my problem with this story.
And here is my problem with the story. Russians are not coffee drinkers.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 15 2024 18:18 utc | 210

The end result of this Zelensky-Syrsky-Kuleba venture was clear from the start. It is impossible to capture territories with mobile armored groups. A wave of second-echelon reserves should follow them, supporting the assault and consolidating.
As soon as the first FABs began to fall on the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the state border line, cutting them off from the invading group, the insidious and ingeniously planned plan by the morons in Kyiv collapsed. And it continues to collapse today.
The invading units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are “naked”. I mean, with ammunition and food with fuel for three days. And if with food and fuel they are still robbing stores and collective farm gas stations, then with ammunition everything is really bad. As well as with engineering. Add to this the minute-by-minute equipment burners from the Aida SpN detachment Akhmat and Sudoplatovtsev, everything is not going very well. There is nowhere to hide. Safari.
Zelensky, as they write, does not listen and continues to stubbornly push brigade after brigade into the cauldron, removing them from the front. Just some kind of Kremlin agent. There is no other explanation for this.

https://t.me/geromanat/31890

Posted by: Down South | Aug 15 2024 18:19 utc | 211

the Moldova situation
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 17:29 utc | 183

Yeah. Moldova is surely inundated with sad Western agents.
Pity them. Or not. They are pathetic.
The will find it hard to triangulate the Gagauz and Transnistrians.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 15 2024 18:20 utc | 212

karlof1@1729
Well developed and stated…as per usual. One quibble in which we may agree to disagree is my perception that the U$$A regime has no actual agency.
Example: When the joint caucus of Congre$$ clapped and yapped like a collection of trained seals, for not only the leader of a demographic midget with around 6 million designated citizens and currently engaged in the most significant genocidal assault on the native population of their stolen lands…in their tiny “open-air concentration camp in Gaza…it is quite evident that the dual-citizen AIPAC billionaires have the Di$trict of Corruption regime by the short hairs.
Not investing further time in filling out the deeper details as to governmental, media and financial control over our Ruptured Republic…I will close in reiterating my perspective…the puppet regime in the Di$trict of Corruption has NO agency.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 18:22 utc | 213

canuck | Aug 15 2024 17:31 utc | 185–
Thanks for the reply. Did you watch the video?
Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 17:36 utc | 187–
I second your observation and sentiment. Did you watch the video?

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:22 utc | 214

karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:16 utc | 209
As I understand it Moldova, like Ukraine is not Nato. Bessa Arabia. Ho0pfully the population there is not as dunb as the Ukrainians, but people in general are the same the world over. Much dependent on the leadership and what is fed to them. What is fed them can be bad or can be good.
Considering Moldova’s leadership and what it will be feeding the people….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:23 utc | 215

Those commenting on the state of Russia and Belarus before the war, would do well to consider the difference between the USSR in 1937 and 1945. Or Britain and any West European country before and after WW1 where a century of socioeconomic change happened in less than a decade. They entered WW1 aristocratic serfdoms and emerged from it something like social democracies. Soldiers grew many inches in height as it was the first time they had eaten properly. (Now Britain’s back to an aristocratic serfdom.)
War makes countries change. The ones that change best, win.
Russians have less sentimental baggage than westerners, especially Brits who are running the show in Ukraine and trying with Churchillian pomposity to relive glories of former wars. Rather than fighting the present and future one. So Russians are better at changing and adapting. And wagging our fingers at them for doing this won’t help.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 15 2024 18:23 utc | 216

Tichy | Aug 15 2024 17:11 utc | 173
“I don’t bother with Macgregor anymore…”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 17:15 utc | 176
Agreed. Ritter is far better. His speculation often adds nuance. I listen to them all. MacGregor is on a political campaign.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Aug 15 2024 18:24 utc | 217

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 15 2024 18:18 utc | 212
Are you serious? The coffee part of the story might well be fake, but Russia has the same color on your map as Turkey. Ever heard of Turkish coffee? And a country having a relatively low coffee consumption is proof that no one there ever drinks coffee?
The copes and the psychotic delusions on this site are really something else.

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 15 2024 18:24 utc | 218

Did you watch the video?
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:22 utc | 216
🙂 He must have a hard head. The thing detonated on his helmet and he walked away.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:28 utc | 219

Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:23 utc | 217–
Moldovans IMO are smarter and wiser than the Ukies, but then they weren’t mind-numbed for many decades as in the Ukie case. The polls are rather accurate. The Moldovan future will contain conflict, just how big is unknown.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:31 utc | 220

WillSeymour@1749
Thanks for sharing. On review, my take is that he is approximately 90% correct in his overall analyses.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 18:33 utc | 221

David G Horsman | Aug 15 2024 18:24 utc | 219
Yes Ritter is good. I think due to his time in the Soviet Union then Iraq, he has dropped all American western exceptionalism garbage and has a far better understanding of other cultures than the average American or westerner.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:34 utc | 222

Moldovans IMO are smarter and wiser than the Ukies, but then they weren’t mind-numbed for many decades as in the Ukie case.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:31 utc | 222
For the Ukrainians, we are talking centuries. This is why I have a hard time really accepting Putin’s notion of a “brother country.” Mostly speaking, the good people of the Ukraine have all already fled or they are fighting the Nazis.
Bomb the everlasting fuck out of them.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 18:40 utc | 223

Moldovans IMO are smarter and wiser than the Ukies,
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 18:31 utc | 222
I hope so. In northern Australia – we could see storm clouds either brewing up or aproaching on the horizon. Sometimes the storm would bypass us, sometimes it would not. Once the storm hits, its impossible to predict the direction any particular gust of wind would come from.
What we watch, seems to me to have similarities to that.
I think it was you in an earlier comment put up the analogy of the gambler constantly doubling down. Yep. That is what we are watching.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:44 utc | 224

Tichy | Aug 15 2024 18:40 utc | 225
Galician Rus needs separating from Polish Rus. Nationalism was first installed in the Galcians when it was part of the Austro Hungarian empire. It was designed to spread into the polish Rus (Ukrainians) and be a thorn in the side of the Russian empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 18:48 utc | 225

.. i agree with pepe..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4fHaQbhEsc
Posted by: james | Aug 15 2024 16:06 utc | 121
Thanks, james! So do I!! I’m glad it’s you joining me. This is very consequential. What Russia has been keeping to so far is the defence of the Donbass as a military operation. Zelensky is no longer the legitimate president of Ukraine but the leader of a terrorist activity in Kursk. Russia has been expecting such terrorism, having already experienced it.
And there are different rules for terrorism.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 15 2024 18:52 utc | 226

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 15 2024 18:24 utc | 220
> The coffee part of the story might well be fake,
And that is the part of the story that is supposed to be the most truthful, because it was from “Volodimir” the Eye Witness.
> Ever heard of Turkish coffee?
Of course. I make and drink it every day. Turks are actually more tea drinkers.
Here is the question for you. How would a soldier make a Turkish coffee, or any coffee in the forest?
Please describe the process.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 15 2024 18:53 utc | 227

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 15 2024 17:14 utc | 174

The situation is like a hostage situation in which a bunch of psychopaths have trapped a huge number of people in a place wired with explosives. The SWAT team outside can pick off individual psychopaths, but not without the others set off their bombs. You seem to want the SWAT team to just start blasting away, which shows you don’t understand that you, like everyone else on the planet, are one of the hostages. As a fellow hostage, I encourage you to keep calm and give the hostage negotiators a chance to talk the psychos down and let everyone walk out of the building.

Honzo,
Your comment is one of the most profound points I have read about the crisis we face. It identifies the desperation of the war machine, and it clarifies why Putin is patient and careful, because of Beslan, the terrorist catastrophe in a school in North Ossetia, in which he faced exactly what you describe.

Posted by: Linda Wood | Aug 15 2024 18:57 utc | 228

Posted by: Down South | Aug 15 2024 18:19 utc | 213
Most ground units can take ground, only infantry can hold it though. If the supply situation is as dire as some suggest, I’d expect to see the Russian probes on the front lines, to force the Ukrainians to expend precious supplies and ammunition. Wonder if they’ll try and run a Gallipoli style deception operation when they retire, though that might prove difficult with modern ISR.
This bit of news got my antenna twitching, too blatant a suggestion they intend to stay.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qgwvjj9d1o

Posted by: Milites | Aug 15 2024 18:57 utc | 229

Re the link. Very much Nato optics.
On the varous units on bothe sides, Russia seems to have a lot of its elite forces on the ground tracking down and eliminating Nato/Ukraine DRG’s. I haven’t seen anything on the Chechens taking POW’s though. But they are just one of a number of different formations.
Martyanov had something on his blog of a Russian formation that is now in theater. He termed them the heavy cavalry.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 19:05 utc | 230

thanks juliania!
i am glad folks are picking up on honzos insight @ 174…
@ karl.. thanks for your posts.. what video are you referring to? thanks..

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2024 19:09 utc | 231

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 15 2024 18:53 utc | 229
Personally I would use instant coffee, and I assume that’s what soldiers generally use in the field too if they really want coffee. I like Nescafé, but Jacobs Krönung is a step better. (I’m not a big coffee drinker myself though. I really only drink it in social settings.)
On a more serious note, I acually agree with you that if the story (or at least the coffee part of the story) is fake, they maybe should have them drinking tea instead, to make it more believable. But that also raises the question why the Ukrainians who faked the story wouldn’t say they were drinking tea? Surely Ukrainians must know that tea is much more heavily consumed in Russia (and probably Ukraine too) than coffee. (Or maybe it was MI6/CIA who faked the story and were sloppy, and then handed it to the Ukrainians for them to publicize it and they were too lazy to change coffee too tea.) All speculation, however…

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 15 2024 19:10 utc | 232

My 232 should have been addressed to Milites 231

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 19:10 utc | 233

Chechen Gen. Apti Alaudinov says 11,000 AFU are involved in the Kursk operation, saw on IEarlyGrey Mike Jones’ TG that RuMoD is claiming 2500-3000 AFU casualties. That 11,000 is support too not the just the troops in active fighting, so I’m guessing the numbers are skewed towards frontline forces. The math is terrible, especially in modern warfare. If numbers are true or close to true the AFU have rolled into a colossal clusterfuck. I doubt the RUAF is anywhere close to same as they are the ones with the air power, FABs, and heavy artillery.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 19:24 utc | 234

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 15 2024 17:44 utc | 190
If anything, Russia is showing signs of attrition.
Russia is taking ground in all the areas they claim as their primary objectives. Ukraine is starving those directions of reserves in order to launch an offensive to nowhere in order to have something to bargain with when they surrender.
That my friend is a sign of Ukrainian desperation not Russian attrition
They’re assembling a hodgepodge of units to respond to Krusk.
yes … and ask yourself why the Russian military are holding their reserves in place rather than move them to Kursk. You come to the conclusion that the Russians can’t pull their forces because of attrition despite Syrsky’s complaints about Russia’s 700,000 man army a couple of weeks ago.
I’d stop worrying about Russia’s attrition and start worrying about why the Russians won’t move reserves to Kursk. The most likely answer is the Russians have plans for those reserves and every one of those units already have their plans and may even have their maps and objectives handed out to them.
Leaders are also talking about introducing conscription.
WTF are you talking about? The Russians have always had conscription. I assume you’re talking about MOBILIZATION and the Duma voted on that last week I believe and struck it down.
Convict armies are being pressed into action.
Yes. In Ukraine not Russia.
Vladimir should give his propagandists a pay raise.
Well that ain’t gonna happen but I can set up a go fund me page if you want to offer a gratuity?

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 15 2024 19:31 utc | 235

HB_Norica | Aug 15 2024 19:31 utc | 237
Don’t encourage the trolls. It makes these threads unreadable.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 19:33 utc | 236

The new HistoryLegends video said there are currently three main events (watch the whole video if you want to see the timeline).
-AFU is trying to flank Koronevo from the south
-AFU finally got Sudzha, which forms their base, but Russian reinforcements are arriving and will certainly be deployed in a way that will block any further easy movement
-infiltration attempts will continue
-Despite capturing Sudzha, the AFU MUST keep moving forward. If they stall, then front will be formed and the scale will tilt for RUAF which will just mow them down sooner or later
-Zelensky will keep sending more formations in an effort to keep the advance going

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 19:34 utc | 237

It has been revealed that in the Sumy direction August 11th, the command post of 117th brigade was hit eliminating 39 officers.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1824163398516609517

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 19:41 utc | 238

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qgwvjj9d1o

Ukraine has set up a military administrative office in Russia’s Kursk region, where its surprise incursion into Russian territory continues, according to its top military commander.
Gen Oleksandr Syrsky said the office would “maintain law and order” and “meet the immediate needs” of the population in the area.
In a video posted on social media, Gen Syrsky is seen telling a meeting chaired by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that the office has been created “on the territories controlled by Ukraine”.
Russian Defence Minister Andrei Belousov has said Moscow will send reinforcements to “safeguard” the population in the region.

Good Lord! Is this a lie too?

Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 19:46 utc | 239

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 15 2024 15:36 utc | 114
Moon’s law.
Ask Napoleon about the result of taking territory. Moral victory? There is nothing moral with the ukronazis and supporters like you.
Incredible all of those stupid bastards who understand war only as grabing territories!

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 19:47 utc | 240

Just to mention.
The Google algorithm ignores this site completely.
Hasn’t done that before.

Posted by: Jpc | Aug 15 2024 19:47 utc | 241

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 15 2024 17:44 utc | 190
Moon’s law.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 19:48 utc | 242

james | Aug 15 2024 19:09 utc | 233–
It’s at 169, james.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 19:49 utc | 243

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 15 2024 18:03 utc | 199
Maybe you did not notice that the rule based order is coming to an end. Slowly but surely. And those who respect the Geneva Conventions are on the side of human values.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 19:51 utc | 244

Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 19:46 utc | 241
Moon’s law.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 19:52 utc | 245

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 19:34 utc | 239
Good, another meat grinder after Rabotino, Krinky, etc.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 19:54 utc | 246

@ unimperator | Aug 15 2024 19:34 utc | 239
thanks for that and all your other posts..
@ karlof1 | Aug 15 2024 19:49 utc | 245
thanks karl..
———- gone for the rest of the day…

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2024 19:54 utc | 247

Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 19:46 utc | 241
Even if it’s true, it’s just a place to take selfies while making the “V” sign. You can all a building for your invading force to take pointless selfies a “military administrative office” all you want but that doesn’t make it one. So I wouldn’t worry about it and instead carry on.
By the way, the “Unnamed” at 234 is NOT me. It’s an MoA barfly counter-troll attempting to undermine my troll persona with saccharine drivel. Though I have to admit that part of me admires the sheer levels of psyops they’re operating on.

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 15 2024 19:56 utc | 248

The Google algorithm ignores this site completely.
Hasn’t done that before.
Posted by: Jpc | Aug 15 2024 19:47 utc | 243
Not ignored from my spot. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22moon+of+alabama%22+ukraine

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 19:58 utc | 249

https://t.me/rusengineer/4973

I thought about it the other day. But one of the consequences of the attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Kursk region was the increased turnout of volunteers at the front. Which partly removes the urgency of the problem of forming our reserves. And accordingly reduces the need for mobilization.
And this also suggests that we just don’t have elegant mechanisms for recruiting into the army. Volunteers who are motivated themselves and know why they want to serve are limited in number in any country. Just accept this as a fact. This number grows with the threat of war, or at the beginning of a war, but under static conditions this value is not very significant.
Therefore, sooner or later recruiters come to the conclusion that material motivation is needed. Which, in conditions of a protracted conflict, leads to an increase in the cost of attracting recruits. And at some threshold, the flow still decreases, and the question of forced mobilization arises.
But at the same time, if you understand the psychology and motivation of people, it turns out that a very significant part of men are hesitant. That is, there seems to be a sense of duty, and material interest affects, but a wife, children, a stable job and barbecue on weekends – why leave the comfort zone? If there is a war to the death, the enemy is at the gates, get up, the country is huge – yes, I will go. And by the way, most people in such a situation will really go. But when the war is somewhere far away, in everyday life it is not particularly felt, this instinct does not work. And the beloved woman is here, nearby, on a soft bed, and barbecue with friends too.
And here a lot rests on the fact that without this peaceful life in the rear, without a growing economy, there will be no victory at the front. Therefore, despite the desire of some people to declare total mobilization, etc., on a carbon copy of the Great Patriotic War, they forget that our conditions are different. That in the world of proxy wars, the enemy’s goal is to destroy the Russian economy, to cause unrest in the hungry population, and to destroy the country without the help of nuclear weapons.
Therefore, we cannot afford to ruin the economy of total mobilization. Unlike the proxies of the Ukrainians, no one will take us into their care. Therefore, this scenario for solving the issue with reserves is not suitable.
Limited mobilization is a half-hearted solution that still hits the economy hard, and at the same time does not provide a significant increase in reserves. Although as a compromise, in 2022, at a difficult moment, it helped stabilize the situation. But there were also many side effects, which is why after that the emphasis was placed on replenishment through the recruitment of volunteers.
And now, returning to psychology and motivation. In order for recruitment to be more successful, in static conditions, it is necessary to pull a man out of his comfort zone. Tear him away from his soft tit pillow. And here the state has an excellent mechanism that is practically not used.
This is a call-up of conscripts for training, for 2-3 weeks. Just start systematically running everyone through, at the same time clarifying the actual data on place of residence, employment, marital status, presence/absence of armor, health status. And at the training camp a short course in modern takmed, fire, nuances of modern tactics. Let adult boys shoot to their heart’s content, run around, being in a male team .. and at this moment, involve recruiters.
The percentage of recruitment in these conditions will be significantly higher than just waiting in military registration and enlistment offices. Again, the level of motivation will also be higher when a man has already felt this drive.
Well, those who are panicky afraid of mobilization will be calmer, after all, a couple of weeks is not so critical, there is no point in running through the upper Lars.
Well, plus, gradually, over the course of six months, passing men through training camps will not cause problems for the economy, a couple of weeks at training camps are not critical for workers of enterprises, the state receives an increase in the level of qualification of military personnel, and all this without much strain.
But for this it is desirable that decision makers get used to thinking not directly perpendicular to here and there, but rather as an entrepreneur, how to get the desired result with the least costs. This is how it turned out in the people’s military-industrial complex, when the orientation changed from process to result.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 19:58 utc | 250

Where are the F-16s?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2024 18:08 utc | 203
LOL
Did you read that one from this trou-du-cul?
LONDON, August 1, 2025 ./TASS/. At a ceremony in Kyiv, Ukraine announced the delivery of the first U.S. Airforce B-1B Lancer strategic bombers.
Yes, first August next year.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 20:02 utc | 251

Posted by: Richard Rublestein | Aug 15 2024 19:58 utc | 251
Moon’s law.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 20:02 utc | 252

Ukrainians have fell into their first cauldron in the village of Zhuravli (east of Koronevo). The Ukrainian vanguard in this village on their ‘thrust’ toward Lgov suffered at least 4 vehicle losses and were flanked from the south-west. If they lose control, Russia will buy a lot more time and stabilize the flank east of Koronevo.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 20:04 utc | 253

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 16:47 utc | 153

Richard Sorge, embedded within the German embassy in Tokyo managing to access German war-plans for Kursk

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Wikipedia says: Sorge was arrested shortly thereafter, on 18 October 1941, in Tokyo.
He was in jail 19 months before Kursk.

Posted by: john brewster | Aug 15 2024 20:04 utc | 254

More and more talk of TG of a Zaporizhzhya build up by the AFU. That drone strike has been bugging me, very hard to explain, in itself pointless and stupid, easy to just write off as crazy 404. I try not to write stuff off, to me it must be either an act by a rogue element in the AFU with its own agenda or part of some bigger Pentagon/UK operation.
Maybe they have designed a way of using a string of drone strikes, a progressive building up over days or weeks, to bring the plant right up the the edge of critical, making it impossible to both stabilize the plant while fighting off a large scale attack, put both the civilians and the military there at risk of being trapped and caught, force the RuAF to drop and run. I don’t know beans about NPPs but seems taking out the cooling tower would be a good first strike in such a plan.
Maybe Kursk is more than it seems, the first of a right jab, left hook, two offensives that force the Russians to run from one fire to the next till they have to choose what to abandon and let burn. Choose between Zaporizhzhya and Kursk.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 20:04 utc | 255

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 19:58 utc | 252
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Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 20:05 utc | 256

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Posted by: Hodes | Aug 15 2024 20:21 utc | 257

https://t.me/rusengineer/4966

The enemy complains that the “unrivaled” NATO equipment is taken and destroyed by the insidious Russians. However, “the boy is to blame himself.”
We can look at the fairly serious protection of the frontal projection of the Stryker APC when it was torn apart. The fact that it was penetrated is, of course, great, but there are still nuances.
Such armor, due to ceramic elements, significantly increases durability, with less weight than steel. And looking at the additional sheets of screens that are installed on equipment, thereby worsening its driving performance, it seems that of course it would be great to replace it with a lighter, equivalent in strength, composite armor.
Its operating principle is quite simple. Textolite with Kevlar deforms and slightly shifts the armor-piercing projectile from the trajectory axis, forcing it to spend energy on the destruction of ceramics. And when entering, expanding the contact patch, which spends even more energy on crushing the armor ceramics.
After that, there may not be enough energy to penetrate the main armor. Plus, as the enemy himself writes, such armor also has a good effect against cumulative weapons, because ceramics have good properties for fragmenting a cumulative jet.
By the way, we were supposed to use the same armor for the Boomerang and Kurganets… but they never made it to the front.
Well, what’s the conclusion… personally, it seems to me that we need to move away from the paradigm of “our weapons are much better, always cheaper and have no analogues.” Physics cannot be fooled, nor can materials science, so any combat products are the result of many compromises for the sake of doctrine. And if the cost of a soldier’s life in this doctrine is very low, then yes, this can compensate for the low cost of weapons (exaggerated). But given our demographics, we need to move away from this approach. Because women will not give birth to as many.
Therefore, it is gratifying that now payments for wounds and deaths of soldiers have no analogues in our history.
The state is thus changing priorities, and if before it was, “take that height, it doesn’t matter how much you put in, the main thing is to preserve the equipment,” now it’s “don’t care about the equipment, so that everyone comes back in one piece.”
And this is starting to change both the officers’ views (unfortunately, not very quickly), and the design philosophy.
And this is precisely the approach that should be learned from the enemy. Moreover, the Americans changed their attitude after analyzing Vietnam in the 70s, and the Bradley IFVs created after that are really very durable vehicles. Which can be confirmed by all our soldiers who encountered them.
So saving on weapons, at the cost of the lives of our soldiers, should disappear from our minds. Our soldier should kill the enemy, and not die heroically. With the help of the best weapons, without being deceived by imaginary cheapness. And this should reach everyone in the army.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 20:21 utc | 258

https://t.me/llordofwar/367188

‼️NEWS‼️
“Let’s sit down at the negotiating table and end this brawl. Neither Ukrainians, nor Russians, nor Belarusians need it,” – Lukashenko
#Ukraine #Belarus #Russia

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 20:24 utc | 259

LoveDonbass @ 203

Where are the F-16s?

Latest update, I think I can put 2+2 together, these missiles would allow the F16s to stay very far back. The bastards hide plans by going step by step, slow but incremental, make everything seem disconnected, acts of desperation or incompetence, at least to the peanut gallery, hopefully the RuMoD is paying close attention. File this along side the Zaporizhzhya cooling tower strike:

The US started talking about transferring long-range JASSM missiles to Ukraine
The United States is open to the idea of ​​transferring JASSM long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine, although a final decision on this matter has not been made, Politico newspaper, citing a number of anonymous US administration officials.
The Joe Biden administration is currently working out the details, the newspaper writes.
▪️According to the Lockheed Martin website, the range of these air-to-surface cruise missiles exceeds 926 km, and the characteristics include “high accuracy” and “high lethality.”
“>https://t.me/llordofwar/367194

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 20:26 utc | 260

https://t.me/Lunay14/19286

Forwarded from Kirill Fedorov / War History Weapons
🇷🇺🇺🇦The secret of the enemy’s “success” is very simple – their successes are our mistakes.
This was the case in 2022, and it is the case now. In the fall of 2022, we did not have a defensive line with serious fortified areas in the Kharkiv region. In addition, there was a huge shortage of personnel, which is why the guys in positions were, let’s say, not the most trained and equipped.
There is a similar situation in the Kursk region – our border was defended mainly by conscripts, FSB border troops and local police. As soon as professionals arrived on the scene, the rapid maneuverable breakthrough of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ended. And here we should also say thanks to the aviation, which gained a lot of time to transfer reinforcements.
The situation in the region remains difficult, but there is no longer any talk of any maneuverable breakthroughs.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 20:33 utc | 261

Lukashenko’s call for peace is Putin’s call.
I think Putin is begging for peace.
But I am not sure as there was no video from Dima today.
Only Dima would know the real reason why Lukashenko is saying that right now.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 15 2024 20:37 utc | 262

JohnBrewster@2024
Here, ever skeptical of assertions from Wikipedia. That site includes numerous “contributors” with agendas.
I’m citing the Sorge affair by a book I read on the subject some 40+ years ago. It is certainly possible that the author was not privy to more recent findings and that he simply went by info available at the time. Nevertheless, I would require considerable buttressing from other sources to take Wikipedia entries seriously.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 20:44 utc | 263

… step by step, slow but incremental, make everything seem disconnected, acts of desperation or incompetence, at least to the peanut gallery …
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 20:26 utc | 263

Literally refreshed before posting the same TG article. I believe it is just as you say; all very deliberate, when all the static is dialed out. An observation made far too infrequently.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 20:44 utc | 264

Hmm, saw somewhere either TG or maybe Nicolai Lilin on Youtube stating (Gen. Apti Alaudinov?) that the deadline for taking the Kursk NPP was August 11, after that Russian forces would have arrived that would make it impossible. So, in the evening on Aug 11 the AFU seriously hits the Zaporizhzhya NPP. Maybe plan A was to trade Kursk for Zaporizhzhya, plan B to make Zaporizhzhya NPP too big a danger for Russia to hold???

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 20:44 utc | 265

Posted by: Richard Rublestein | Aug 15 2024 19:58 utc | 251
Even as a self-confessed doomer (at this point), I honestly think it was reasonable to expect at the outset that Russia would decisively win this war. I still think they will “win”, but now in the same way they “won” WWII: (1) At a cost that’s too devastating to fathom, and that it’s outright treasonous of the Russian leadership to have led Russia to, and (2) with only one enemy defeated: In WWII Nazi Germany, in this war Ukraine, while in WWII the US was quickly revealed as the real mortal threat and as a superpower, untouched by the devastation of the war.
Same thing in this conflict, with the only good news that the West is a lot weaker (and quickly headed downward, though more thanks to rapid internal degeneration and the rise of China, than anything Russia has done) than it was at the end of WWII. Most of its rivals, in particular China, are immeasurably stronger, too.
When the invasion began I must admit I was euphoric. I thought that Russia had finally turned a corner and gained a new sense of confidence, that they had (even if hadn’t always looked successful to outside observes like myself) been preparing their economy and military machine since 2014 and finally felt they were ready for a decisive campaign to annihilate Ukraine and humiliate NATO, and most importantly, that they were following a coherent plan.
I also remember (it’s easy to forget now, given all that has happened between) how even the Western ledership was panicking, with Milley openly saying that Ukraine was going to last about a week. The “barfly” cultists in their little echo chamber here forget that while the West was quick (within 1-2 weeks) to economically sanction Russia and at least attempt to isolate it politically, they were resigned to military defeat and to the notion that sending weapons, much less openly and in large quantities, was a (1) red line that couldn’t be crossed without risking a war engulfing all of Europe, and possibly going nuclear, (2) pointless, because Ukraine was going to be toast even before enough NATO weapons, supplies and mercenaries had arrived. Even the mere discussion of sending NATO weapons was taboo in most Western circles for months.
What people also forget is that the Ukrainian leadership was despondent and screaming for month after month about how the West had tricked them, was apparently fine with seeing Ukraine and “freedom” annihilated, and bitterly telling Europe that they were next.
But then of course the Russians, with the disastrous decision (classic Putin chess move, only for the other side) to halt the campaign (I’m not just talking about the pincer movement on Kiev, but even more so of the offensives toward Kharkov and Kherson), and to show preference for ceasefire talks in Istanbul, directly encouraged the West to think that the Russian invasion was nothing a Putin bluff (which is unfortunately precisely what it was).
The West (through Boris Jonson) then convinced a still panicked Ukraine to say no to a ceasefire, much less a surrender. And then again, people in here constantly bleat that “Russia is fighting all of NATO” when that wasn’t at all the case until long into 2022.
It was Russia which, over the course of countless months, convinced NATO that joining the fighting would not at all lead to severe Russian reprisal, that Russia did not have the will for a ruthless, sustained military campaign against Ukraine (preferring to speak of Ukrainians who boiled Russian soldiers’ heads and cut out their hearts and ate them as “brothers”) and that Ukraine could effectively fight back at such a weak opponent given enough NATO support.
I had some doubts about Russia long before the war (since 2014 at least, given the mixed results at building a resistance economy and strengthening the military) but I could never imagine the levels of weakness, dysfunction and incompetence it has evidently reached. I never thought I would say this (the neocon lie that China and Russia secretly hate each other and are allies only of “necessity” has always been a garbage cope/psyop – they have their own such ones too) but at this point I strongly hope that China, Iran, North Korea etc. have a plan B. A 1991 style coup in Russia replacing the weak and treasonous leadership seems out of the question because the rot in the military seems to be even worse than in the Kremlin.

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 15 2024 20:47 utc | 266

Brewster: Correction: 2004 vs 2024 time of your inclusion.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 20:49 utc | 267

I posted this on the 1000+ Kursk thread! Some might find some interest in it, so posting it here too. A bit of entertainment to go with a bit of education for anyone interested. It’s about the Gas grid.
Why is a there a suicidal invasion of Kursk?
My memory lurched back to why the whole thing started and with the further new imagining of NS destruction … I went back to one of my CT’s from 2022.
Why?? Because BLINKEN, and the Masters want it – Shelensky the poisonous whore and co, are just following orders – to the last Ukrops, as the Nazis did to the Germans previously and again now.
Anyway Blinky is THE key player in all this. Briefly – as wiki has it :
‘ In 1987, Antony Blinken’s college thesis was published as his first book about that episode in Cold War history: Ally Versus Ally: America, Europe, and the Siberian Pipeline Crisis.’
Then later on…
‘A terrorist explosion damaged the pipeline in Rozhniativ district in Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast in May 2014.[26] According to the Russian government owned radio station Voice of Russia terrorist threats against the pipeline were made by Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh in March 2014.[27] Another section of the pipeline exploded in the Poltava region on June 17, 2014, one day after Russia limited the supply of gas to Ukrainian customers due to non-payment. Ukraine’s Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said the next day, that the explosion had been caused by a bomb. ‘
FAMILIAR NAMES now eh? 🤔
A bit more exposition…
‘Soviet plans to build the pipeline were strongly opposed by the US-administration of Ronald Reagan.’
‘The efforts by the US to prevent the construction of the pipeline, and its export embargo of supplies needed to build it (1980–84), constituted one of the most severe transatlantic crises of the Cold War’
‘The pipeline is 4,500 kilometres (2,800 mi) long, of which 1,160 kilometres (720 mi) is in Ukraine.[2][6] Its diameter is 56 inches (1,420 mm).[2] The original annual capacity of the pipeline was 32 billion cubic metres (1.1 trillion cubic feet) of natural gas per year.[2] By 2009, the factual annual capacity was 27.9 billion cubic metres (990 billion cubic feet).[6] It has 42 compressor stations, of which nine are in Ukraine.[2]’
‘The pipeline runs from Siberia’s Urengoy gas field …
it forms the western transit corridor in Ukraine.[6] It passes through a hub at Sudzha, Kursk Oblast then crosses the Russian–Ukrainian border north of Sumy. ‘
Geddit bar flies ? The arseholes that be, have long long long wanted to own it all and they don’t like it if they don’t get what they want – because as the Original Gangstas, the ziofascists of Chicago – they would rather it all burnt down if they can’t have it no one else can.
They figure their great grandkids will eventually have it that way!
We are dealing with those dead eyed scumbags who like ‘fucking all over the free world’ whilst making a song and dance of it!
Blinken will swing high from this petard and as you can see, he was born and raised to it!
As a bonus clown world the British MI6 Great Gamers the leading ziofascists for centuries always like to have their part in any glory :
‘The 1987 James Bond film The Living Daylights uses an inspection gadget in the pipeline as a plot device to smuggle a KGB defector to the West.’
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urengoy%E2%80%93Pomary%E2%80%93Uzhhorod_pipeline
They play games and millions die, nations are ruined, the free world becomes more fascist and incorporated into their unipolar assimilation as minions!
BUT…
Their Empire is Dead and they know it, so it’s back to Burning Atlanta again.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 15 2024 20:51 utc | 268

I think vargas at 265 deserves a bevin today
If you aren’t paid to throw sand into readers’ eyes and you do so out of malice, vanity or stupidity, not even the plea of economic necessity excuses your egregious behaviour.
Kindly leave the stage to honest actors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2024 20:51 utc | 269

Lukashenko’s call for peace is Putin’s call.
I think Putin is begging for peace.
But I am not sure as there was no video from Dima today.
Only Dima would know the real reason why Lukashenko is saying that right now.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 15 2024 20:37 utc | 265
NOT IN YOUR WETTEST DREAM
President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko declared his readiness to use nuclear weapons if foreign troops cross the country’s border.
According to Lukashenko, Belarus will take the first blow. The regular units of the Russian army will enter the battle.
@Slavyangrad

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Aug 15 2024 20:52 utc | 270

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 20:21 utc | 261
He is aware of the glass and ceramic composites used in Soviet tank armour for half a century? As I’ve said before, individually most NATO equipment is superior, a legacy of a more advanced industrial base, vastly more money spent on R&D, a largely professional military, and forms that fit doctrinal requirements.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 15 2024 20:54 utc | 271

With media reports that the Ukr forces have captured Suzdha, what are the chances that the Russians could assemble a large force from its reserves at the border and by pushing northward capture the supply lines and eventually envelop the Ukrs in a cauldron?

Posted by: chet380 | Aug 15 2024 20:59 utc | 272

psychohistorian @ 272
I think vargas is Dima 🙃

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 21:00 utc | 273

unnamed@2047
Unnamed for very good reasons? In 2022 Russia fielded nothing more than a shadow army of some 80,000 effectives. At this time an equivalent or possibly larger Ukrainian attack force was parked in front of the Donbass and heavily shelling Donetsk city and other locations, prior to an evident invasion of that ethnic Russian region, which was the foundation for the duly elected government taken down by the U$$A sponsored Maidan coup d’ etat.
Their pressure on Kiev was almost miraculous with such a relatively small force. Their incursion resulted in considerable Ukie forces being drawn away from their intended assault on the people of the Donbass and moved westwards to counter the Russians..Peace talks were being held in Istanbul at this juncture and the Russians granted generous terms and Z. was about to sign off on that good deal for his regime. Then, getting his orders directly from the private bank in City of London, most certainly NOT from the puppet regime in the Di$trict of Corruption; Zelensky cut off talks and the Russians drew back their forces and began a massive recruitment and rearming regimen; as well as rescuing their economy from direct attacks from the Collective Wa$te by means of sanctions and seizures.
Yet you still denounce Putin. Why?

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 15 2024 21:00 utc | 274

I’m shocked! Shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.
― Captain Renault, Casablanca

How dare they! I know if an advancing Russian BTR stormed into Ukrainian positions, while soldiers where playing cards, the loving Russians would stop the huge vehicle and kindly explain the situation to their brother Slavs. After all, this is not a war, this is Putin’s Special Military Operation, which is goodness itself. It’s not like the Russians are calling Ukrainian fighters Nazis or anything like that.
And if a Russian BTR did storm the front and ran over Ukrainians, while they were having a drink and a game of cards, being the introspective and balanced thinkers they are, I know Barflies would be equally outraged … on their flying pigs.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 15 2024 21:02 utc | 275

Tichy | Aug 15 2024 19:58 utc | 252
Google pulled this stunt on me a few months back. I even opened a case with Google. I live in Italy and Moon of Alabama web search would not return the site. I then tried the one VPN I have and boom! there it was. A day or so later it came back. So if some can get it and others can’t it may very well be based on your location.
Google is evil. damn shame, it was a fantastic search engine

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 15 2024 21:03 utc | 276

There is no way Ukraine can waltz into Kursk if they are on their last legs, unless Russia is either incapable of ejecting them, or potentially worse, party to this ruse.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 15 2024 16:23 utc | 138
Shadowbanned thought there was something of the later, but from higher-ups. He felt that the decisions Russia was making from the top were sabotaging their forces and keeping it so they couldn’t win.

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:04 utc | 277

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 20:26 utc | 263
#########
I was asking Napoleon because he was crowing about the F-16s arriving a few days ago.
We can only assume that the Ghost of Kyiv (“Samuyil Hyde”, American comedian Sam Hyde) is completing his pre-flight checks before they are launched into battle.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2024 21:05 utc | 278

It’s most likely Ukraine is feeding BS to Financial Times on this ‘running over Russian coffee table with a tank’, or Financial Times made the story up themselves. They make up most of the ‘news’ they report from Ukraine, after all.
They also made up capturing 2000 Russians. There is only published info of two or three border checkpoints overrun or surrounded, and a platoon or two of Russians a bit further away. Once again we return to the conclusion that 10-15 % of Ukrainian reported figures are plausible, the rest are very dubious.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 21:06 utc | 279

The Ukrainian forces came into Kursk in columns. A witness watched as a column 3 km long entered. I wonder where were the Russian bombers and air force?

At the moment, I serve in one of the reconnaissance units and it so happened that when the shit hit in Kursk Oblast, I was there on business. The main job of my unit is reconnaissance.
I will say this, we warned about the impending shit 2 days in advance, while the border guards knew from their sources at least 5 days in advance.
They entered our territory not in small groups, as they are now trying to present it, but in columns.
Personally, I watched as a column entered, stretched for 3 kilometers.
https://t.me/fireinstruktor/126 – zinc

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:07 utc | 280

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 15 2024 20:47 utc | 269
You won’t be the first person confused about why Russia won, and you won’t be the last person surprised about the methods they employed.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 15 2024 21:07 utc | 281

They entered our territory not in small groups, as they are now trying to present it, but in columns.
Personally, I watched as a column entered, stretched for 3 kilometers.
https://t.me/fireinstruktor/126
Something is very wrong with Russia’s government and military that it did nothing as columns kilometers long came into Russia. They are in an existential war and are acting like it is a police operation.

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:11 utc | 282

The Russian perspective (or one anyway):
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/how-the-ukrops-are-getting-themselves?
The latter part of the article:

However, there is one nuance – our guys are not in a hurry to launch a counter-terrorist operation in the Kursk region, they let the Ukrainians loot our toilets in the villages. What’s the matter – why is General Alaudinov fighting the entire PR machine of the West alone? Why aren’t the rest of us running around in panic? Gerasimov was only shown on TV once, and the Supreme Commander is holding agricultural conferences, and thus, one might say, he is simply mockingly spitting in Zelensky’s face – the Fuhrer is so spread out with his swan song, and for the second week now everything has been quiet, without panic.
I don’t mean war bloggers, of course – it’s clear with them, what can you expect from sick people?
The answer became clear at the beginning of this week. Instead of withdrawing units from the front, we, on the contrary, doubled our efforts in the main directions, sending additional troops there. Once again, for the dumb ones, we sent reserves not to Kursk, but to the Yuzhnodonets direction on the Konstantinovka-Vodyanoye line, then Pokrovsk, breaking through the Grodovka-Novogrodovka line and the Toretsk-New York line.
If anything, in these three areas, the Ukrainians have already received four Ilovaisk and five cauldrons in the future. In addition, a breakthrough is planned near Liptsy and near Vovchansk in the area of ​​the village of Tikhoye. Zelensky, idiot, bravo, keep it up. You wanted to use Putin, and he drowned you in your own sh**.
But the greatest charm is that the Ukrainians are completely bogged down in the Kursk Bulge – they can’t leave because PR won’t allow it, and it’s painful to stay because they’re constantly being killed. However, they have to, otherwise, the West won’t give them any money, and Zelensky’s wife will be left without a new Bugatti. So they have to drive in new units.
Even Syrsky understands that this is what we are waiting for – the more Ukrops they drive into Kursk, the more severe the Ukrop catastrophe on the main front will be. That is, Kursk is such a global trap for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, into which the fool Zelensky himself drove his army. Imagine, Gerasimov doesn’t sleep at night, thinking up how to break through the main front of the Ukrainians as quickly as possible, and so that there would be fewer losses on our side. He’s completely exhausted, when suddenly Zelensky appears and brings the solution on a silver platter.
You noticed how the Americans were stunned in the first days of the attack on Kursk. However, it is their own fault, they chose an obvious moron as an ally. Now let them swallow all this disgrace.
While the Americans are wiping their asses, our seasoned wolfhounds are sitting and licking their lips at the Ukrainian carcass, thinking about how best to finish it off.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2024 21:14 utc | 283

So if reconnaissance officers and border guards knew days in advance and were warning, why were they not getting immediate help?

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:15 utc | 284

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:11 utc | 285
If you watched the HistoryLegends video, you would know that Ukraine hid their armored vehicles in forests in Sumy region and in Sumy itself. The distance is short to gather them from forests to the staging area. Most likely they were stockpiling AFVs one by one over the course of a month or more.
Some Ukrainian commanders in Donbass noted the Donbass started crumbling faster as several brigade worth of troops and equipment were pulled off the Donbass line around mid-July, for restaffing and training for Kursk invasion. And even more troops were pulled off during the last week or few days before August 6th, which formed the actual cannon fodder component of the invasion.
So contrary to what you think, there was no ‘massive pile of vehicles’ waiting weeks in the open right next to the border, they were stockpiled into forests and Sumy over a long period of time.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 21:15 utc | 285

So contrary to what you think, there was no ‘massive pile of vehicles’ waiting weeks in the open right next to the border, they were stockpiled into forests and Sumy over a long period of time.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 21:15 utc | 288
But reconnaissance officers and border guards knew an incursion was coming days in advance. Russia sent no military help to the area and its air force did not strike the kilometers-long columns invading Russia. This is incompetence or treachery.

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:18 utc | 286

Posted by: chet380 | Aug 15 2024 20:59 utc | 275
With media reports that….
Stopped reading right there.
That was four more words than I read of the latest drivel from the desperate and meaningless pro NATO pro imperialist troll who shits on an otherwise thought provoking message board cheering on cold blooded murder while claiming to be “anti-war”.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 15 2024 21:20 utc | 287

The Google algorithm ignores this site completely.
Hasn’t done that before.
Posted by: Jpc | Aug 15 2024 19:47 utc | 243
That’s how you know the site is good.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 15 2024 21:29 utc | 288

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:15 utc | 287
Calm down dear.
Have faith in the sources you can find from the more reliable contributors here. Their track record of providing facts on the ground is far more credible versus western corporate media propaganda.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 15 2024 21:29 utc | 289

Something is very wrong with Russia’s government and military that it did nothing as columns kilometers long came into Russia. They are in an existential war and are acting like it is a police operation.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 15 2024 21:11 utc | 285
1. There was NO 3km long column at all. Youre making things up again.
2. There was no prior warning by reconassance of the offensive. Youre making things up again.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 15 2024 21:37 utc | 290

I am seeing some stuff coming from Germany (not sure of the position of the person making the report) that it becomes somewhat difficult to continue to support Ukraine if indeed they did destroy Nord Stream II. It was an act of sabotage against a NATO nation which should have triggered the defend clause that NATO supposedly stands for. News from WSJ and others says that the Germans have brought charges against one of the perps.
Could this be a fig leaf to cover their true desire to throw Ukraine under the bus? Though I feel there remains much resentment toward Russia from Germany I think that Ukrainians have long been considered to be Russian anyway and their presence in Germany is the cause of some resentment, at least in the opinions of some people I have spoken to….especially a teacher at a school in Bremerhaven who has had to deal with “Russen” for some years now.
There has to be some reason this is being brought out now. I remain firmly convinced that the US was behind it and Russia has apparently called this latest twist a fairy tale that rivals the brothers Grimm. I guess we will see how this unwinds in the near future

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 15 2024 21:44 utc | 291

Russian troops advancing all over Donbas
Expert: Kursk Region incursion weakens Ukrainian lines near Pokrovsk
Ukraine’s advance into Russia’s Kursk Region appears to have weakened the front in the Donetsk People’s Republic, where Russian forces have advanced on the key junction of Pokrovsk.
The advances appear to be excelerating as kiev forces are sent to the Kursk offensive to bolster the PR offensive.
One commander on the frontlines near Nui Yorke said “At the current pace of advance we’ll be in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk by Christmas”.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 15 2024 21:46 utc | 292

… Maybe plan A was to trade Kursk for Zaporizhzhya, plan B to make Zaporizhzhya NPP too big a danger for Russia to hold???
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2024 20:44 utc | 268

It’s possible, NPPs and dams form a whole category of room elephants that hardly get a mention.
Back when ZNPP was first under attack I tried to bring up the subject of the Ukrainian side of the river being left completely free for Ukrainian forces to accumulate men and materiel, fire on the plant etc., out jumped a whole crew of names that would still be recognised today, all brandishing argument from authority and “who are you to enquire”, it was petty weird even by internet standards.
Point being that, in retrospect, someone was paying for a goon squad to run interference on the subject of the security arrangement at ZNPP, especially there being zero action to shape them Ukrainian side of the river to Russian advantage.
The latest hit on ZNPP, supposedly by a drone launched from Nikopol, looks to be a continuation of whatever decisions underpin the status of the Ukrainian side of the river / border, as does the latest Kursk incursion, in its own way.
This view of border security is a Shoigu era norm, ZNPP is merely the an extreme example of a border asset stuck in a gray zone, as was Kakhovka HPP.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 15 2024 21:48 utc | 293

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 15 2024 21:44 utc | 295
What is amazing that the Europeans themselves actually seem to be ‘proud’ of the destruction of NordStream 2.
We know Germany lost more than 300 billion euros of export revenues in 2022-2023 as a consequence of energy shocks driving businesses bankrupt or forcing relocation outside the Eurozone. Now the Germans themselves are saying a drunken sailor is to blame…
Well, yeah, what a funny joke. We can all point fingers and laugh at the Germans now. Nothing else to discuss.
Russia didn’t really lose out on revenues, because the local price which Europe is able to buy rose dramatically, they buy from China, which buys from Russia, and China buys from Russia due to increased demand. So losing one end added to another end.
Who cares, anymore. But hey, let’s all laugh at the drunken sailor which cost 300 billion. The drunken sailor really did a service to the world by accelerating the demise of the European Union.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 21:51 utc | 294

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 15 2024 21:44 utc | 295
Didn’t a German court actually issue charges or an indictment against a certain V. Zelensky or something in relation to the NSII bombing? Like some dude they said was an expert diver, citizen of Ukraine. I think Simplicius’ latest goes into it.
Found the report: https://news.sky.com/story/germany-issues-arrest-warrant-for-ukrainian-diver-who-played-part-in-nord-stream-explosions-13196799

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2024 21:51 utc | 295

Sorry it was the other way around…for “privacy reasons”…
Volodymyr Z.
LOL

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2024 21:52 utc | 296

As for the incursion–I am guessing that the aim is NOT to take territory. My guess is that Ukraine is looking at history, specifically American history to see how to defeat a bigger rival, as say Vietnam did half a century ago. The Tet Offensive was a tactical failure, but a strategic success. The balloon of America’s belief, backed by official pronouncements that “we were winning the war” got punctured. Without public support or acquiescence, prosecuting the war becomes harder and America finally gave it away. Losing Walter Cronkite was entre to losing the American public. Whether the same thing would happen in Russia is less likely I think, but still on the table, given the advantages of an authoritarian regime that has a lot more control of the media space then is the case in the US.
Posted by: Cas | Aug 15 2024 17:06 utc | 171
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In Vietnam, first the French, and then the US were the aggressors against the people of Vietnam. In the early 60ties, while the US was busy killing peasants and rice farmers in Vietnam, simply because they wanted to be sovereign and free, most Americans did not know the history about Vietnam, much less about the atrocities commented by the US and their proxy army; the ARVN.
The anti-war demonstrations in the streets in the US and Europe started out small but over time they brought the war home and in our face in the US. Part of the resistance to the US imperialist war included Teach-Ins all over the country, but mostly at universities and colleges. Reporters attending these Teach-Ins began to include this information in their reports and news coverages. The Tet Offensive was a strategic success, in so far as it boosted the PR into western homes, radios, and universities. It wasn’t just about who was winning or losing the war, it was about what the war was, and why were we (the US) there on the other side of the planet killing men, women, and children; and for what? It was the “for what?” that lost the war in the US.
On the other hand, the US and NATO are using another proxy state, Ukraine (a border country with Russia) to wage an indirect war with Russia. Again, the US citizens do know or understand the history of this conflict, and the US and the EU MSM (liberal and conservative) are doing everything they can to make sure that the general population does not become infected with the TRUTH about this conflict, as it was in Vietnam.
To know the truth about who is the aggressor in this Russia/ US/NATO conflict; just take a map that shows the expansion of NATO over time since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991: Who is moving in whose direction? This would be the first time in history that an “aggressor” nation stood idle while a “non-aggressor” military alliance advanced towards the aggressor’s borders as NATO has done to Russia ever since Bill Clinton became President.
Want to know who is an Imperialists nation? Just count the number of military bases they have around the world.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 15 2024 21:55 utc | 297

Dima has unfortunately lost the plot when it comes to the Kursk operation, hopefully he regains his senses as it fizzles out and the Russian meat grinder churns into furious life. At least he is properly reporting the increasing progress of the Russians in the south at Niu York/Toretsk, Pokrovsk and Ugledar – soon this will be seen as a massive strategic mistake by Zelensky as the southern front caves in.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2024 21:58 utc | 298

Oh … and more concern trolls, please don’t feed them with attention.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2024 22:01 utc | 299

Lets not worry so much about the “war crimes” bit. The ones who killed those guys will likely get “waxed” soon enough. No tears shed for those fuckers. They can compare notes with their comrades in hell.

Posted by: MoT | Aug 15 2024 22:04 utc | 300