FT Reports A Ukrainian Warcrime
The willful killing of unarmed soldiers, especially when there is a good chance of taking them prisoners, is certainly a war crime.
It is astonishing that Christopher Miller of the Financial Times reports of it without further comment.
How Ukraine pulled off its biggest gamble: invading Russia (archived) - Financial Times, Aug 12, 2024
As Volodymyr prepared to enter Russian territory, adrenaline ran through his veins. It was not lost on him that 81 years ago, another battle in Russia’s Kursk region marked a turning point for Europe.
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“We entered Russian territory for the first time at 1pm on Tuesday [August 6],” Volodymyr said. “We were among the first to enter there.”To his astonishment, his unit faced no resistance as their eight-wheeled, 20 tonne US Stryker fighting vehicle stormed across the border in broad daylight.
They soon encountered a Russian unit “sitting in the forest, drinking coffee at a table”, Volodymyr recalled. “Then our Stryker drives right into their table.
“We killed many of them on the first day,” he said. “Because they were unarmed and didn’t expect us.”
Not wanting to end up like their comrades, he added, “dozens” of stunned Russian soldiers simply laid down their weapons and surrendered.
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"81 years ago, another battle in Russia’s Kursk region marked a turning point for Europe," writes Miller. He and others should consider what that really means. If I remember correctly, the German fascists and their Ukrainian allies also committed war crimes - and lost the fight.
Posted by b on August 15, 2024 at 10:06 UTC | Permalink
next page »It's almost as if the Ukrainians are trying to re-enact the 1943 Battle of Kursk in the hope of winning where the Germans and their collaborator forebears lost.
The shocking thing is that The Financial Times and other Western MSM see nothing wrong with the Ukrainian soldiers mowing down unarmed soldiers or civilians in completely peaceful circumstances. But then, the Western media expressed no outrage at the Crocus Hall bomb attack and fire that killed civilians in Moscow.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 15 2024 10:20 utc | 2
Julian Röpke proposed three scenarios for how the Ukrainian Armed Forces raid in the Kursk region would end:1. Advancing further into Russian territory. The "least likely" option, since there are too many problems along the way.
2. Holding the captured territories. "The riskiest option", since in this case Kiev "could lose a large number of troops, which would make the offensive on Kursk a strategic and political burden."
3. "Sovereign" withdrawal of troops. This assumes a sudden withdrawal of Ukraine as soon as Russia transfers large forces to this area. "It will become clear that it will not be possible to achieve success, so it will be necessary to leave, taking advantage of the success in the information space."
""Sovereign" withdrawal of troops" sounds cool, of course 😁 But in general, all three options show one thing - the idea was doomed a priori.
https://t.me/sitreports/32931
Posted by: Down South | Aug 15 2024 10:23 utc | 4
Ukraine (Nato) also committed crimes by bombing ambulance(s) with drones and evacuating civilians with drones. A captured Ukrainian said their orders were to shoot every male they capture in the legs and place them in a basement.
Obviously Russia needs to evacuate those border villages which are attached on the border and can get formed into a cauldron, but of course they have a high chance of beating back the AFU with right deployments and vectors.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 10:35 utc | 5
@Refinnejenna | Aug 15 2024 10:20 utc | 3
It's almost as if the Ukrainians are trying to re-enact the 1943 Battle of Kursk in the hope of winning where the Germans and their collaborator forebears lost.That is what it is (among other things). And the British are trying to re-enact the Crimean War of the 1850s.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2024 10:36 utc | 6
Zelensky is such a moron. There is no way he will win this war. The only thing he will succeed at is needlessly killing more Ukranian men for nothing and starting world war 3.
Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 15 2024 10:39 utc | 7
Posted by: Sonar | Aug 15 2024 10:12 utc | 2
Do you actually think that NATO borders would be better protected?
Think again.
Posted by: Martina | Aug 15 2024 10:39 utc | 8
Can you provide the relevant Geneva Convention article that says ambushing and killing unarmed enemy combatants constitutes a war crime?
Posted by: perfidy | Aug 15 2024 10:44 utc | 9
Posted by: Sonar | Aug 15 2024 10:12 utc | 2
Nato's armies are already embedded into Ukraine's army, including they plan everything, provide all ISR, all and best long range weapons in Nato arsenal. Ukraine's army, are just the bodies.
What you see in Ukraine is more or less Nato's full potential without nukes.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 10:45 utc | 10
3rd year of the war and Russians are sitting unarmed drinking coffee next to a border of a country which they are at war with, and which they claim is run by terrorists and nazis. it could be a fake, but if its true it goes explains why Ukraine is still fighting after all this time
Posted by: abel | Aug 15 2024 10:49 utc | 13
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 10:47 utc | 12
What was meant by 'Nato is embedded in Ukraine' is that Ukraine itself isn't running anything. All planning is made in Ramstein Germany or London or Pentagon, 100% of NATO ISR assets is viewing Ukraine and were in fact used for months to plan the Kursk invasion, and Nato professional soldiers from Poland, France and the FUKUS are embedded in Ukraine's army. 99% of weapons at this point are NATO weapons, from vehicles, missiles and MLRS, and artillery.
Beyond military matters, the core of NATO, EU, has wrecked its own economic potential in this war in Ukraine (a fact patched up with massive ignorance, censorship and propaganda), and US is massively indebted as a consequence and lost its unique 'reserve' currency position. Soon the reaper is coming to the door to collect the dues.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 10:55 utc | 14
Masno (NovichokRossiya) reports a massive explosion following missile strike in Sumy.
https://x.com/NovichokRossiya/status/1824037425133277231
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 11:01 utc | 15
"Beyond military matters, the core of NATO, EU, has wrecked its own economic potential in this war in Ukraine (a fact patched up with massive ignorance, censorship and propaganda), and US is massively indebted as a consequence and lost its unique 'reserve' currency position. Soon the reaper is coming to the door to collect the dues."
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 10:55 utc | 15
Agreed
Do we belive this FT report - let's not forget that the Western media's remit on Ukraine - is to portray them in a positive light - in effect that Ukraine, if not winning the war - that they at least, are making progress against Russia.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2024 11:09 utc | 17
"It isn't a crime if we do it." is the motto of Western civilization.
Posted by: Red Outsider | Aug 15 2024 11:11 utc | 18
also worth remembering and repeating:
stoltenberg openly admitted live on cameras that nato was active in ukraine since 2014. that is official, who knows how long inofficially.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 15 2024 11:16 utc | 19
I don't buy these stories. We now know that Russians knew about incursion 5 days prior. Draftees serving at the border were warned day and half prior. There is telegram channel of a young artilleryman serving in the area, who confirmed that they knew in advance.
The whole story about coffee table is just a, well, story. Unless it's some crazy AWOL case or not military at - it's just didn't happen.
Were there are fuckups from Russian side when the show started? Sure. It's war. Why they haven't reacted how people expected them to act? We don't know.
Maybe they wanted this incursion to happen to create another meat grinder and for some political reasons? We don't know.
Posted by: gogis | Aug 15 2024 11:17 utc | 20
Sounds like the Financial Times reporter was so busy glazing the Ukrainian raid into Kursk, he forgot to cover-up the war crimes.
Posted by: SpatialFix | Aug 15 2024 11:19 utc | 21
It seems that Kursk has not had much effect on the Donbass front, as was hoped for by Ukraine:
In the Pokrovsky direction , the enemy is becoming more and more panicked. One of the media fighters of 24 OSHBR "Aidar" Bunyatov whines that the Russian army is attacking around the clock, without respite. The infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is exhausted under such an onslaught and runs to the rear. Around Mirnograd and Pokrovsk have already established defense lines, but there is no faith in them - they will only delay the defeat.
From near Volchansk, the 128th Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being transferred to the Pokrovskoe direction . It is not known whether they will be formed as a whole or again as separate battalions.
https://voenhronika.ru/
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2024 11:21 utc | 22
Posted by: gogis | Aug 15 2024 11:17 utc | 21
The main fault would probably be failure to pre-evacuate the border villages with the highest potential to fall into a cauldron. That is, Glushkovo area, Gornal, Guevo, Goptarovka, Popovka, Demidovka, Kolotilovka, Demidovka, Tetkino area. They could have expected an attack but not at the scale.
Once those villages are evacuated, it provides a much better potential to deploy in ways that don't need to defend everything, but are better aimed at stemming the advance, push back and collapsing the base of the invasion.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 11:23 utc | 23
As you also have the Wapo claiming that destruction of Nord Stream 2 was on the order of Zelensky, I'd say US has started to throw him under the bus.
He may not have the possibility to enjoy a peaceful retreat in one of his newly purchased house outside Ukraine.
Posted by: w | Aug 15 2024 11:26 utc | 24
Thanks for sharing this article b, I'd have probably missed it due to my stomach not being able to digest the current nauseous levels of Western war propaganda.
After months of near radio silence from the Western media & all but the most Russophobic of NAFO basement dwellers, the Kursk incursion seems to have fully re-animated their bloodlust & almost pornographic delight at the thought of dead & mutilated Russian bodies.
The war delirium is so intoxicating for Financial Times stenographer Christopher Miller that he can report on a 20 ton Stryker armoured vehicle ploughing into a group of unarmed Russian soldiers sat at a table drinking coffee, as if he were describing a minor road accident, not a bloody massacre.
Likewise, the fact that he reports the words of a Ukrainian soldier ("We killed many of them on the first day...because they were unarmed and didn’t expect us.”) without so much as a comment on the fact this is a war crime, speaks volumes about the morality-free space the Western media now operate in.
The current NATO-Kiev psy-op (piggy-backed onto the Kursk incursion) only functions succesfully if we forget that this was the exact same Western narrative (Putin humiliated, massive Russian losses blah blah blah) that was injected into the infosphere in the early stages of the conflict and then revived following the Kharkiv withdrawal & the temporary occupation of Robotyne and Krynky.
Anyone who has been following the daily Russian advances along the line of contact will recognise that the NATO/Kiev propagandists are once again using the magicians trick of misdirection. To paraphrase the Wizard of Oz: "Pay no attention to the Russians behind the Eastern Ukraine curtain".
As b points out, Christopher Miller seems cognitively incapable of grasping the implications of invoking the 1943 WWII Battle of Kursk. Unlike Miller, MoA & many of its barflies grok the rhyming nature of history.
Posted by: FakeBelievee | Aug 15 2024 11:26 utc | 25
Lord Of WarAccording to the Financial Times, Ukraine and Russia are beginning negotiations on a prisoner exchange in the Kursk region. Additionally, an analyst mentioned that over 2,000 Russian soldiers had surrendered since the operation began in Kursk. Ukraine spoke of around 1,000 prisoners of war in the Kursk Offensive. None of these numbers are confirmed. We are waiting for information from the Russian side.
TWO THOUSAND+ Russian soldiers captured by Ukraine!
Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 11:31 utc | 26
Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 11:31 utc | 27
You missed the bit in your quote that says “None of these numbers are confirmed.”, let alone citing the FT as a source.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2024 11:34 utc | 27
Russia is so incompetent as an army they couldnt even prepare adequate defences for Kursk border. If Ukraine can achieve so little so quickly advancing imagine what a real Nato force would do. Putin needs to seek terms and end this fiasco its clear he cant win this war.
Posted by: Sonar | Aug 15 2024 10:12 utc | 2
/Why would you massively secure a border in a region where an attack cannot give the enemy any strategic advantage?
A little head-patting from the allies is all Ukraine can gain here. And even that ist questionable, because none of the allies understands which goals Ukraine wanted to achieve with this action.
Russia had - considering an enemy capable of rudimentary strategic thinking - no reason to protect this border heavily.
As well as no state in the world secures borders in a special way, if an invasion there would make no sense for any attacker AND would cause no danger that would justify the expense.It's like bricking up the window on the fifth floor to keep the burglars out in a neighborhood with lots of open garages and windows on the ground floor... Who would expect that?
Posted by: T.h.omas | Aug 15 2024 11:35 utc | 28
Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 11:31 utc | 27
"You missed the bit in your quote that says “None of these numbers are confirmed.”, let alone citing the FT as a source."
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2024 11:34 utc | 28
bored has difficulties finding documentary sources for his errmm, 'claims'.
Posted by: Sonar | Aug 15 2024 10:12 utc | 2
Theyve achieved an area, in sq kms, just bigger tHan the size of Kiev.
You need to stop looking at a magnified version of the map mr sonar. Its called PERSPECTIVE.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 15 2024 11:38 utc | 30
Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 11:31 utc | 27
A few border posts were the main sources of capturing during the Blitzkrieg phase, lasting 3 days. That won't constitute '2000 captured' even close. After that AFU really hasn't encircled anything, there's enough room to always pull back.
C'mon people, use your brain.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 11:42 utc | 32
"Were there are fuckups from Russian side when the show started? Sure. It's war. Why they haven't reacted how people expected them to act? We don't know.
Maybe they wanted this incursion to happen to create another meat grinder and for some political reasons? We don't know."
Posted by: gogis | Aug 15 2024 11:17 utc | 21
My idea is that Russia was surprised but once they saw what the moronic Ukes were doing they now are turning it into a trap.
It's not a war crime to kill soldiers like that. Only if they had already surrendered. There is no requirement to wait and ask for a surrender.
Then again, you are a blogger, not a military officer. And you are Dunning Kreuger overconfident in your knowledge. Reminds me of Sundance at TLF.
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 11:45 utc | 34
reply to 25
I agree, that's the first thought that came to mind. They are moving Zelensky towards the exit. Blame him for a terrorist act.
The Chechen/Russian general said the Kursk invasion force was 12000. This finally makes sense. It's not just a matter of Russia being complacent, together with the huge amount of armor, they were serious.
There are reports of Ukr troops being captured from the 80th and 82nd now. Fitch says Ukraine is in default, bankrupt depending on definition.
Indian sources claim Ukraine may have a serious problem with tuberculosis in the military, transmitted by conscripted prisoners.
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 15 2024 11:51 utc | 35
"It's not a war crime to kill soldiers like that. Only if they had already surrendered. There is no requirement to wait and ask for a surrender.
Then again, you are a blogger, not a military officer. And you are Dunning Kreuger overconfident in your knowledge. Reminds me of Sundance at TLF."
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 11:45 utc | 35
You are right-but if they shot an unarmed, wounded soldier who had fallen in battle I believe that would constitute a 'war crime.'
Interesting small detail. A week before invasion commander of AFU 80th airborne brigade was removed of command due to a 'dispute' with command regarding the Kursk invasion. We now know the issue was valid and how it turned out for the 80th airborne brigade.
Very interesting detail I've just noticed about Ukraine's invasion of Kursk region that might explain certain aspects of the operation.On 29 July, a week before the Ukrainian invasion of Kursk region the commander of the 80th Separate Air Assault Brigade of the Galician Airborne Assault Troops of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Emil Ishkulov was removed from his post for a dispute with the command.
Initially it was claimed he would be appointed to a higher position.
Earlier on the same day the commanders of the airborne assault battalions and companies of the 80th brigade recorded a video message in which they appealed to president Volodymyr Zelensky, commander-in-chief Oleksandr Syrsky and commander of the air assault forces Maksym Myrhorodskyi with a call to keep Ishkulov in his post.
2 days later Ishkulov said that people were lied to about his promotion and he was removed because he refused to perform an unrealistic task. Ishkulov was told he probably needed a rest if he isn't prepared to carry out the tasks assigned to him.
Ishkulov was removed for refusing to carry out an unrealistic task set by the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of Ukraine, Syrsky.
''The brigade is preparing for a difficult task. The brigade lacks electronic warfare (EW) systems, night vision devices and basic equipment to carry out this task. Commanders are told to weld ''Bushmasters'' with iron. When asked where to get iron or funds for this iron, they are told - I will say diplomatically - steal it. The brigade commander says that it is impossible to send a brigade without support on such a difficult task - as a result, the brigade commander is removed," the people's deputy Sofia Fedina said.
Emil Ishkulov stressed that war and politics cannot be linked, as in this case. The serviceman hinted that for the command, the capture of the area is a "political event."
Summary:
The commander refused to take part in the invasion of Kursk region, calling the tasks unrealistic and stating that the goal of the invasion was a political motive, rather than military strategy.
His soldiers are taking heavy losses in the past few days in Kursk region after initially overrunning Russian border guards and conscripts with no combat experience.
Emil Ishkulov believed the operation in Kursk region was a PR stunt motivated by politics and refused to take part in it, knowing he would lead many of his soldiers to their eventual certain death.
Now we wait to see what the operation leads to and how it ends.
SOURCES: Ukrainian media from 29-31 July: Focus, Comments, Apostrophe.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 11:56 utc | 37
@38
https://x.com/talkrealopinion/status/1824038479237730755
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 11:58 utc | 38
B, as a German you should be very familiar with last-ditch offensives which waste your country's best troops and end up shortening the war.
WW1 ended soon after the Kaiserschlacht in 1918.
WW2 ended soon after the Ardennes Offensive in 1944-45.
Posted by: Tom Ernest Weiss | Aug 15 2024 11:59 utc | 39
In no way is what was reported a “war crime.” None of the solders who were killed had surrendered.
Also, as the story continues, it discusses Russian solders who laid down their arms because they did not wish to be killed like their comrades. Obviously, the Russian solders who laid down their arms were armed. They were also not killed after surrendering.
In sum, shooting enemy solders who have not surrendered, even if they are unarmed at the time, is not a war crime. The opposing forces do not have to wait for unarmed soldiers to arm themselves before they can be killed.
Posted by: TimmyB | Aug 15 2024 12:01 utc | 40
about war crimes. international crimes and International law.
I predict if the East defeats the western backed belligerents in the two major ongoing wars (western backed Israel v. Gaza) and (western backed Ukraine v. Russia) the long term impact will be to impose international law directly on the people that run the nation states, the corporations, the military, the secret service, or whatever.. .
Its fruitless to impose laws against nation states, corporations or any other non human entity, because non human entities have no life, have no function and have no physical presence in the world how can you make them responsible?
So to make international laws effective, laws need to be aimed at those humans who exercise abusive or damaging powers in the name of some fictitious entity (nation states, corporations, partnership or other entities are non punishable; its impossible to enforce a law against a non punishable entity).
Convict the human that the planned the event, the people that gave the authoritative nod, the people who actually did the deed and all who followed orders, protocol, or policy right down to the person who pulled the trigger so to speak.
I predict Enforceable International law is going to be the long term outcome of these two wars. Note: Often I have stated that enforcing human rights against non human entities is useless, but making international law transparent to entity defined boundaries makes such laws enforceable. I have also said a second government is needed to enable the governed masses the authority they need to audit, indite, prosecute and punish every thing people in the non human nation state do. Every violation of a human right needs to be immediately tended to and dealt with? The most interested party is those people who are the governed, so it is logical the governed masses should have oversight authority over those who govern.
Why have all attempts to make international law not worked? What will make International law enforceable is to make violations attach directly to the actors who did the deeds. Forget charging a corporation or government, get directly at every human in the entire chain (presidents, Prime ministers, persons who voted, affirmed or approved any part of the International crime within legislative chambers, people on committees, bankers, armed force personnel, manufacturers, including weapons manufacturers, transport personnel, everyone). Chain of approvals, chain of preparation, and chain of actions, etc., everyone that collectively, additively or independently participated in the illegal abuse, harm or the corruption, etc.. Non human entities cannot be criminals; it takes humans to commit a crime.
I also think International law will be based in human rights instead of in trade and sovereign boundary and rights determinations. Those things we today call international laws, will become regulations. But regulations between nation states will only be allowed, if human rights are not abused by such regulation. In other words, regulations might apply to non human entities, and laws to human persons.
Everyone should work to make this happen.. Because International law directed at the responsible human, instead of the non-human entity the person works for, owns or controls, can stop the wars, and can enable humanity to organize itself for the collective good.
Every human born to the earth, should be entitled during their lifetimes, to unregulated unrestricted access to all benefits human progress has been able to create and every living person has a duty to make the world a better place for those who will be the next to arrive. An equal share in mankinds progress is a right that should attach to everyone's life and a human rights defined international legal system could make that happen.
Posted by: snake | Aug 15 2024 12:03 utc | 41
"It isn't a crime if we do it." is the motto of Western civilization.
Correction: The motto of the parasitical class that controls and is hollowing out its Western host as it attempts to do the same to the rest of the planet.
Posted by: Benzanatto | Aug 15 2024 12:31 utc | 42
Soon the reaper is coming to the door to collect the dues.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 10:55 utc | 15
The golden billion will begin to see its error only when aid containers labeled in manadarin and cyrillic drop from the sky. Slowly it will dawn on them that foreign powers care more about them than their own.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 15 2024 12:34 utc | 43
Dont be fooled by western media bullshit about ukraine doing the nord stream terror act.
ITS COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
It was the US and UK who did it. Ukraine is celebrating the fact that the west is saying it was ukraine. It emboldens them. Kiev WANTS to be accused of the explosion.
The US and NATO have told kiev it wasnt them BUT they can now take credit for.
YOU WATCH THE NAFO TROLLS CELEBRATING.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 15 2024 12:40 utc | 44
Can't see the forest for the trees?
U.S. Government July deficit of $243.7Billion, which includes $88 billion in Interest. Annualized this is a $3 Trillion dollar hole to find cash from somewhere (print/conjure) and $1 Trillion in annual interest. Winning?
The U.S. is bleeding out with so many self-inflicted holes in the barrel.
Ukraine? A Ukraine politician was elected on the platform of Peace with Russia. That boat sailed and sunk.
Posted by: kupkee | Aug 15 2024 12:42 utc | 45
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 15 2024 12:40 utc | 45
Correct, obviously the NS2 story is BS. Dropping it on Ukraine which is on its way out anyway makes sense.
However, if we cut out of the useless narratives and focus on consequences, the plain fact is Germany, and by extension rest of EU got screwed big time. And that's their right to do so, and their problem to solve.
The same way anyone has the right to jump off a roof top, OK.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 12:55 utc | 46
English MSM reporting - that the English government has sent Challenger II tanks to Ukraine - that are now being used in the Russian region of Kursk.
With a multitude of foreign mercenaries - and in my opinion Nato troops, fighting alongside Ukrainian forces, not just in Ukraine - but in Kursk - Russia is effectively taking on Nato forces, and holding its own.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2024 12:55 utc | 47
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2024 12:55 utc | 48
There was a video of Challenger 2 get hit already. It could have been one that was sent last year and got quickly pulled out of the front due to British government and generals having a heart attack (one of their generals literally said he almost had a heart attack seeing a Challenger tank burning).
https://x.com/SU_57R/status/1823979669517165024
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 12:59 utc | 48
from welt.de, our favourite german propaganda-outlet:
According to President Volodymyr Zelenskyi, the Ukrainian armed forces are making “good progress” in their advance. The Ukrainian army is achieving its goals, Zelensky said in his evening video address - and has been instructed to respect humanitarian law in its actions. “It is important that Ukraine fights according to the rules, and the humanitarian needs in this area must be respected.”
...
The only contact with the Russian civilian population is support with humanitarian aid. Podoljak also emphasized that there would be “no Butscha on Russian territory”.
just listen to this bullshit.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 15 2024 13:10 utc | 49
Ukronazis who remain in Kursk have no hope of a future. Pictures are flooding the 'net of an early harvest. Eventually, they will all be exterminated. So wont the merc's: US, UK, Estonian, Polish, Romanian, et al. Regardless, it has done nothing to slow Russia's progress along the whole front, especially in the Donbas. Once Pokrovsk falls, Ukronazi collapse seems inevitable. I, for one, hope Alaudinov is correct and Russia brings this war to a close, this fall.
Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 15 2024 13:10 utc | 50
Unimperator @15
I know, I know. Was answering dumbo @2 ;)
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 13:12 utc | 51
to add to my @50:
this is in direct contradiction to both what civilians there say, and what ukrainian pows are saying.
but of course, here in germany, what the "subhumans from russia" have to say is automagically a propaganda-lie and of no concern. only "our" truth is the real truth.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 15 2024 13:12 utc | 52
Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 15 2024 13:10 utc | 50
The translation to Englis is easy. Everything they say about Ukraine, just invert it. That is what has worked so far.
According to President Volodymyr Zelenskyi, the Ukrainian armed forces are making “sluggish progress” in their advance. The Ukrainian army is not achieving its goals, Zelensky said in his evening video address - and has been instructed to not respect humanitarian law in its actions. “It is important that Ukraine doesn't fight according to the rules, and the humanitarian needs in this area must be not respected.” ... The only contact with the Russian civilian population is not to support with humanitarian aid. Podoljak also emphasized that there will be a “Butscha on Russian territory”.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 15 2024 13:15 utc | 53
It is hard to imagine what realist objective Ukraine and its NATO masters hoped to accomplish. The small amount of forces committed, even if well equipped and trained, amounted to nothing more than a raid. That they stupidly stuck around ensured there complete destruction.
That was likely the end of Ukraine's mobile strategic reserve. I am sure the Russians are grateful.
Posted by: Mr. Ed | Aug 15 2024 13:17 utc | 54
Objective observers of international events since e014 are compelled to conclude that Ukrainians are very stupid people.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 15 2024 13:17 utc | 55
Thanks for your kind words canuck (32)
though I accidently added an extra e to my nick (story of my entheogenic life).
Credit to anonymous (35) (there's a line I never thought I'd write) and to TimmyB (41) for pointing out that gunning down unarmed soldiers before they had a chance to surrender or running them over while they were on a lunchbreak with a 20 ton Stryker doesn't constitute a war crime.
You learn something new every day.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Aug 15 2024 13:22 utc | 56
Russia's enemies aren't as afraid of them as they should be. That needs to change.
Posted by: chunga | Aug 15 2024 13:24 utc | 57
Posted by: Mr. Ed | Aug 15 2024 13:17 utc | 55
In fact these Ukros will have the run of the place for as long as they want. No doubt the USA has issued a threat that they must be left alone to cause problems.
They will hang around for months/years.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 15 2024 13:25 utc | 58
That the West accepts Ukro war crimes and Israeli genocide while forcing the story about the basic human rights and "European values" is amazing.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 15 2024 13:25 utc | 59
Objective observers of international events since 2014 are compelled to conclude that Ukrainian politicians are very stupid people.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 15 2024 13:17 utc | 56
Corrected that for you. Of course, their stupidity is only exceeeded by that of NATO countries' politicians, which includes their generals since the true warriors retired long ago.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 15 2024 13:27 utc | 60
Posted by: perfidy | Aug 15 2024 10:44 utc | 10
"Can you provide the relevant Geneva Convention article that says ambushing and killing unarmed enemy combatants constitutes a war crime?"
While I normally consider people who turn up demanding other people do their homework to be entitled time-wasters, you did pique my interest as I was not sure myself.
It turns out that you'll find one relevant clause that applies in The Third Geneva Convention, Part 1, Article 3.
The wiki page quotes:
"Non combatants, members of armed forces who have laid down their arms, and combatants who are hors de combat (out of the fight) due to wounds, detention, or any other cause shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, including prohibition of outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment."
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 15 2024 13:30 utc | 61
The Ukrainians could have tried to win the war instead of trying to "humiliate Putin" or "convince the Russian society". No, Russia won't just voluntarily be defeated and asking them to give up just admits Ukraine is pathetic.
Posted by: Clubofinfo | Aug 15 2024 13:35 utc | 62
Posted by: Sonar | Aug 15 2024 10:12 utc | 2
Moon's law.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 13:42 utc | 63
Can you provide the relevant Geneva Convention article that says ambushing and killing unarmed enemy combatants constitutes a war crime?
Posted by: perfidy | Aug 15 2024 10:44 utc | 10
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War
Article 3, Section 1 states that killing unarmed and/or surrendering soldiers is a war crime.
Posted by: Monos | Aug 15 2024 13:43 utc | 64
Weak, cowardly, demoralized Ukrainian soldiers killing Russians soldiers attempting to surrender just for shits and giggles. Imagine my shock.
Posted by: Monos | Aug 15 2024 13:46 utc | 65
I wonder if Pres. Putins offer for the Ukronazis to keep everything West of the Dneiper still stands?Ha ha
Posted by: Ralph Conner | Aug 15 2024 13:48 utc | 66
Can you provide the relevant Geneva Convention article that says ambushing and killing unarmed enemy combatants constitutes a war crime?
Posted by: perfidy | Aug 15 2024 10:44 utc | 10
Please, define "enemy combatants", it is not in the Geneva Conventions. It was created by the fascist yankees to get rid of all the rules of war and the Geneva Conventions a the same time.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 13:51 utc | 67
Posted by: perfidy | Aug 15 2024 10:44 utc | 10
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Geneva Convention Additional Protocol 1 (1977), Article 41 Par. 1 and 2(a). Ukraine and Russia are parties to the Convention.
Posted by: a stone | Aug 15 2024 13:52 utc | 68
Article 41 — Safeguard of an enemy hors de combat
1. A person who is recognized or who, in the circumstances, should be recognized to be hors de combat shall not be made the object of attack.
2. A person is hors de combat if:
a) he is in the power of an adverse Party;
b) he clearly expresses an intention to surrender; or
c) he has been rendered unconscious or is otherwise incapacitated by wounds or sickness, and therefore is incapable of defending himself;
provided that in any of these cases he abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape.
3. When persons entitled to protection as prisoners of war have fallen into the power of an adverse Party under unusual conditions of combat which prevent their evacuation as provided for in Part III, Section I, of the Third Convention, they shall be released and all feasible precautions shall be taken to ensure their safety.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 14:02 utc | 69
Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 11:31 utc | 27
Moon's law.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 14:04 utc | 70
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 15 2024 13:25 utc | 59
Moon's law.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 14:05 utc | 71
It's interesting how desperate they are to maintain the fiction that the Kursk gambit is proceeding. Those forces are being chopped to pieces, while propaganda pieces about handing out water are filmed in the back line. Reminds me of the great counteroffensive, where weeks in, at the time already obvious to anyone paying attention the Ukrapatsies were stuck outside Rabotino, the useless stenographers of Western media was 'rah rah rah', more complacent and compromised than in Vietnam or Iraq. Useless propagandists, you cannot pretend your war to victory in war.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 15 2024 14:07 utc | 72
I believe that the governor of the region said that 2,000 civilians were left in the area controlled by Kiev regime forces.
Those people are probably the ones Kiev calls "POWs".
Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 15 2024 14:07 utc | 73
a stone, 69:
I notice that you didn't link or quote. So, I went and checked on you. As I suspected the text does not support you. Probably why you did not bother linking or quoting.
Here's a link: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/api-1977/article-41
Here's the text:
Article 41 - Safeguard of an enemy hors de combat
1. A person who is recognized or who, in the circumstances, should be recognized to be ' hors de combat ' shall not be made the object of attack.
2. A person is ' hors de combat ' if:
(a) he is in the power of an adverse Party;
(b) he clearly expresses an intention to surrender; or
(c) he has been rendered unconscious or is otherwise incapacitated by wounds or sickness, and therefore is incapable of defending himself;
provided that in any of these cases he abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape.
3. When persons entitled to protection as prisoners of war have fallen into the power of an adverse Party under unusual conditions of combat which prevent their evacuation as provided for in Part III, Section I, of the Third Convention, they shall be released and all feasible precautions shall be taken to ensure their safety.
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The enemy did not meet any of these stipulations:
a. Was not already captured.
b. Had not surrendered.
c. Was not unconscious or disabled.
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So no, you absolutely do NOT have to wait for them to arm themselves or offer them an opportunity to surrender (which they might eschew).
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 14:09 utc | 74
The story is obviously made up.
They soon encountered a Russian unit “sitting in the forest, drinking coffee at a table”, Volodymyr recalled.
Russian soldiers, sitting in the forest, drinking coffee at the table?
Picnic table? Coffee Latte Americano from Starbucks? Tall, Grande or Venti?
What a joke.
Posted by: hopehely | Aug 15 2024 14:12 utc | 75
As far as Zelensky is concerned, looks like the SVR nailed it...
"MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Washington is working on options to replace Volodymyr Zelensky with a more manageable and less corrupt figure, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said on Tuesday.....
The United States consider former Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov* as a suitable candidate to replace Volodymyr Zelensky, the Russian Intelligence Service said.
The US administration is planning to launch a powerful information campaign to discredit Zelensky in order to force him to leave his post, the SVR said.
"The US administration has already instructed affiliated NGOs to work out the scenario of Avakov's coming to power in Ukraine. Now this issue is being discussed with the leaders of the leading Ukrainian opposition parties ... as well as with a number of influential deputies of the Verkhovna Rada from the ruling Servant of the People party," the statement said.
*Included in the register of terrorists and extremists in Russia.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 15 2024 14:13 utc | 76
Any hopes Ukraine had that Russia would divert forces from Donbass to shore up Kursk look forlorn. Here’s today’s Russian Defence Ministry report, indicating that the rate of Ukrainian losses hasn‘t abated: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12525478@egNews
Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (15 August 2024)The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
In Volchansk and Liptsy directions, the units of the Sever Group of Forces have engaged manpower and hardware of the AFU 57th Mechanised Infantry Brigade, the 36th Marine Brigade close to Volchansk and Tikhoye (Kharkov region).
The AFU losses were up to 60 Ukrainian troops, four motor vehicles, one 203-mm Pion self-propelled artillery system, one 152-mm D-20 howitzer, and two 122-mm D-30 guns.
The units of the Zapad Group of Forces have captured more advantageous lines and positions, defeated 67th, 115th mechanised, 3rd assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 1st National Guard Brigade close to Nevskoye, Chervonaya Dibrova, Makeyevka, and Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People's Republic).
The AFU losses were up to 470 Ukrainian troops, three U.S.-made M113 armoured personnel carriers, six motor vehicles, one UK-made 155-mm FH-70 towed howitzer, one 122-mm Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, and one 122-mm D-30 howitzer. One U.S.-made AN/TPQ-36 counter-battery warfare station and three ammunition depots have been destroyed.
The units of the Yug Group of Forces have improved the tactical situation and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of 23rd, 93rd, and 150th mechanised, 143rd infantry, 5th assault brigades of the AFU and the 241st Territorial Defence Brigade near Aleksandro-Shultino, Stupochki, Chasov Yar, and Pobeda (Donetsk People's Republic).
The AFU were up to 650 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, five motor vehicles, one 152-mm D-20 gun, three 152-mm Msta-B howitzers, two U.S.-made 105-mm M119 guns. One ammunition depot has been destroyed.
The units of the Tsentr Group of Forces have liberated Ivanovka (Donetsk People's Republic), defeated 32nd, 53rd, 100th, 117th, 151st mechanised brigades of the AFU, the 109th Territorial Defence Brigade, and the 111th National Guard Brigade near Toretsk, Grodovka, Vozdvizhenka, Kalinovo, Novogorodskoye, Mirolyubovka, and Nelepovka (Donetsk People's Republic). Seven counter-attacks of the AFU 53rd Mechanised Brigade and the 15th National Guard Brigade have been repelled.
The AFU losses were up to 470 Ukrainian troops, one U.S.-made Bradley infantry fighting vehicle, one U.S.-made MaxxPro armoured fighting vehicle, two motor vehicles, and one 122-mm D-30 howitzer.
The units of the Vostok Group of Forces have improved the tactical situation along the front line and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of the AFU 78th Mechanised Brigade and the 58th Motorised Infantry Brigade near Vodyanoye and Prechistovka (Donetsk People's Republic). Two counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 125th Territorial Defence Brigade have been repelled.
The AFU losses were up to 105 Ukrainian troops, three motor vehicles, and one U.S.-made 155-mm M198 howitzer.
The units of the Dnepr Group of Forces have engaged manpower and hardware of 65th mechanised and 128th mountain assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 106th Territorial Defence Brigade close to Pavlovka, Novodanilovka (Zaporozhye region), and Lvovo (Kherson region).
The AFU losses were up to 90 Ukrainian troops, three motor vehicles, two U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzers, and one 122-mm Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system. One AFU POL depot has been neutralised.
Operational-Tactical Aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have eliminated one missile and artillery ammunition depot, a storage of uncrewed surface vehicles, a parking site of fuel supply vehicles as well as clusters of enemy manpower and military hardware in 152 areas.
Air defence facilities have shot down three U.S.-made JDAM and French-made Hammer aerial bombs, 12 U.S.-made HIMARS projectiles, and 35 unmanned aerial vehicles.
In total, 638 airplanes and 279 helicopters, 30,005 unmanned aerial vehicles, 569 air defence missile systems, 17,064 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,400 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 13,247 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 24,738 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2024 14:13 utc | 77
Justpassinby @50
Of course there won't be another Bucha in Kursk. The massacre of civilians by the occupying troops will be very real!
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 15 2024 14:15 utc | 78
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 14:09 utc | 75
Moon's law.
You are a fucking liar.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 15 2024 14:18 utc | 79
@ hopehely | Aug 15 2024 14:12 utc | 76
Why don't the British advertise their IFV's tree-phasing sneaky ambush mode? Sounds like that'd make them sell like pancakes. Stupid Brits.
Posted by: boneless | Aug 15 2024 14:23 utc | 80
Pathetic to compare with the Kursk battle (summer 1943). That was a huge tank battle which the Germans decisively lost despite having some technically advanced stuff. Now it is not even an invasion, for an invasion it is said you need a number superiority of 3-1. It is an incursion, that is all about occupying some strategic target like a WORKING nuclear power plant.That failed the first two days.
The gas station however they were able to take out but that is not critical. It is only bad news for the West European countries bankrolling Ukraine that will have to pay higher prices on the world market.
Further incursions are about terror and tiktok. The same operations as IS quickly advancing through the desert and storming Palmyra two times (last time in 2016) with their American humvees, killing left and right, blowing up Roman ruins there. The Russian population is not impressed, they see through that. It seems IS and these Ukrainian special forces had their training from the same suspects.
Now the Russian counter operation in Kursk is lead by the FSB and the border units supported by the army. It is now an anti terrorist operation. Intruders will be wiped out, first you cut the rear, close the salient and then clean up the pockets. Terrorists do not resort under the Geneva conventions as the Americans have amply demonstrated when they chased the alleged Bin Laden(s).
Posted by: Teraspol | Aug 15 2024 14:23 utc | 81
The same operations as IS quickly advancing through the desert and storming Palmyra two times (last time in 2016) with their American humvees, killing left and right, blowing up Roman ruins there. The Russian population is not impressed, they see through that. It seems IS and these Ukrainian special forces had their training from the same suspects.Posted by: Teraspol | Aug 15 2024 14:23 utc | 82
for what its worth, there were quite some news about a certain indispensible nation lifting certain "moderate freedom fighters" from syrian soil via helicopters into the ukraine, 2 years or so ago i believe?
Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 15 2024 14:33 utc | 82
Three Important points from Moldovan Analysis:
Firstly, The Russian military needs to at least acknowledge to themselves if not admit publicly that they got caught with their pants down and had failed to protect their own borders.
Secondly, The Ukrainians (albeit with NATO ISR and equipment) attempted an audacious and very powerful special military operation (with perhaps the objectives to take Kursk NPP and perhaps even Kursk itself) that has not yet been fully stopped, much less defeated.
Thirdly, Had this audacious "Blitzkrieg" style run on Kurk been successful it would have gone down in history as one of the greatest military upsets in history, indeed it still might, as Akmet Chechen Telegram have reported that Ukraine has committed 12000 troops to this operation with less than 3000 currently destroyed or otherwise neutralised.
Also, Analysts need to recognise that this action
Posted by: Moldovan Eye | Aug 15 2024 14:35 utc | 83
According to Dima's Military Summary - "Hello my dear friends..." (for some reason I always picture Peter Lorre)
The Ukraine incursion has continued to spread, west, north and east and currently controls 41 villages... These as confirmed by geo-located aerial videos.Russian forces have lost Sudzha and withdrawn south east. There are some claims (other bloggers) that Ukraine has pushed way, way north, which is troubling... given all the talk about the losses they have sustained and how Russia has 'contained' the incursion.
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Aug 15 2024 14:38 utc | 84
Zelly’s office pushes back on Nord Stream accusations: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-presidential-adviser-denies-ukraines-involvement-nord-stream-explosions-2024-08-15/
KYIV, Aug 15 (Reuters) - Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak denied his country's involvement in explosions which damaged the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline and instead pointed the finger at Russia in comments to Reuters on Thursday."Such an act can only be carried out with extensive technical and financial resources ... and who possessed all this at the time of the bombing? Only Russia," Podolyak said as part of his written comments.
The multi-billion dollar Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines transporting gas under the Baltic Sea were ruptured by a series of explosions in September 2022, seven months after Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Polish prosecutors said on Wednesday that Poland had received a European arrest warrant issued by Berlin in connection with the attack, but the suspect, a Ukrainian man named as Volodymyr Z, has already left Poland.
On Friday, the Wall Street Journal reported that top Ukrainian officials were involved in what happened.
"Ukraine has nothing to do with the Nord Stream explosions," Podolyak said, adding that Ukraine did not gain any strategic or tactical advantage from the blasts.
Russia has already blamed the United States, Britain and Ukraine for the blasts, which largely cut Russian gas off from the lucrative European market. Those countries have denied involvement.
Germany, Denmark, and Sweden all opened investigations into the incident, and the Swedes found traces of explosives on several objects recovered from the explosion site, confirming the blasts were deliberate acts.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2024 14:41 utc | 85
The Kursk operation is looking like too little too late.
Meanwhile it appears that Zelensky gave up on the Donbas and Russian forces will soon take everything from Ugledar up to Kramatorsk. This is likely going to enrage the coke head and induce him to throw more precious reserves and material into Kursk direction.
So while it ain’t over by a long stretch, I’m increasingly inclined to think that the slow attritional phase of the war has ended and we may be approaching a climax. Perhaps even before November which would be bad news for the US regime.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 15 2024 14:42 utc | 86
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 14:09 utc | 75
You are being disingenuous there. The actual quote, from your own citation states:
"He is in the power of an adverse party,"
...and...
"he abstains from any hostile act and does not try to escape."
When you are unarmed and someone rocks up pointing an assualt rifle at you, you are in their power.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 15 2024 14:42 utc | 87
88,
Wrong. You are not captured yet, are not physically controlled. Nothing stopping you from trying to grab a weapon, run, etc. And no, there is no requirement for waiting until that action has started.
Note that it is also legal to kill sleeping soldiers. Only if they are unconscious because of wounds, is it illegal.
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Then again, the Internet lickspittle here seems to think they are JAGs as well as military strategists.
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 14:48 utc | 88
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 15 2024 14:09 utc | 75
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ICRC commentary on the deliberations leading to adoption of Article 41 Par. 2(a) states: ‘A defenceless adversary is ' hors de combat ' whether or not he has laid down arms.’
The wording of 2(a) cannot be glossed to simply mean ‘captured’. It includes conditions from rendered defenseless by an armed opposition force to full custody.
Posted by: a stone | Aug 15 2024 14:51 utc | 89
The AFU supply lines look a bit over-extended around now ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 15 2024 14:52 utc | 90
Russian soldiers, sitting in the forest, drinking coffee at the table?
Picnic table? Coffee Latte Americano from Starbucks? Tall, Grande or Venti?
What a joke.
Posted by: hopehely | Aug 15 2024 14:12 utc | 76
Well, there's this old classic from the famous Rostov Rampage during the Prighozhin era:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d8LGNI_9-A
Who knows ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 15 2024 14:55 utc | 91
3rd year of the war and Russians are sitting unarmed drinking coffee next to a border of a country which they are at war with, and which they claim is run by terrorists and nazis. it could be a fake, but if its true it goes explains why Ukraine is still fighting after all this time
Posted by: abel | Aug 15 2024 10:49 utc | 14
Exclusive footage at the very moment Ukrainian forces crossed the Russian border.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnv0Afyp-fs
Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | Aug 15 2024 14:56 utc | 92
The AFU supply lines look a bit over-extended around now ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 15 2024 14:52 utc | 92
All this shouting and all these triumphal speeches by the pianist from Kiev only make one smile, or rather cry. A decent information and analysis service already knows how long the tragic spectacle put on by the Ukrainian general staff will last. Let's do a very rough, overestimated count: 12,000 (5 brigades) fighters of which 20/30% are not perfectly trained, 200 tanks, a jumble of 1,000 armored vehicles of various types and performances, 200/300 reconnaissance vehicles, and another 20,000 support soldiers not directly involved in the costume balls currently underway. Knowing the equipment, the weight of every type of ammunition from the pistol bullet to the large-caliber grenade, of every electric battery, of every can of meat, of every quintal of fuel consumed by the ever-thirsty NATO vehicles (strangely enough, on no tank, not even on those of the former Warsaw Pact, have I seen the much-loved auxiliary tanks on the back. This suggests that soon there will be scenes similar to the ride towards Kiev at the beginning of the special operation). Of course, someone may object that one can refuel from the enemy, but I think that after having plundered a few quintals of fuel from isolated farms, the only thing they will find will be a little food and that's it. From my point of view, not knowing the front-line equipment established in the Ukrainian army, I dare to predict that by August 20 the defense will stiffen and by the 31st the safaris in the woods and hills of the occupied province will begin in search of the 5/6 thousand desperate fugitives. Besides, Nikolajewka is a name well known to some NATO armies.
Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 15 2024 14:57 utc | 93
🖼️>🇷🇺🇺🇦 Oleksandro-Kalinovo direction: liberation of Artemovo and significant advance of the Russian Armed Forces in the vicinity of Novhorodskesituation as of 4:00 pm on August 15, 2024
While Ukrainian formations continue to redeploy additional forces to Kursk Region, on the Oleksandro-Kalinovo direction, Russian troops continue to rapidly break through the enemy's defenses, further expanding the zone of control in the Dzerzhynsk agglomeration.
▪️In Druzhba, Russian Armed Forces units were able to advance along Sadova Street and approach the northern exit of the settlement at the end of last week. Further advancement in this area will allow cutting off the "wedge" near the Siversky Donets - Donbas canal, where the AFU still hold positions. At the same time, Russian assault troops were able to reach Zarechna Street in the central part of the settlement.
▪️In the neighboring Kirovo, the main clashes unfolded in the area of Beethoven Street. At the same time, Ukrainian formations made several counterattack attempts - during one of the attacks, the enemy came from the direction of Dzerzhynsk on a pickup truck to Bazarnyi Lane, where the disembarked infantry immediately came under artillery fire. As of today, this area has been cleared of Ukrainian formations and has come under the control of the Russian Armed Forces.
Meanwhile, to worsen the situation of the AFU in the settlement, Russian troops attacked in the direction of the "Pivnichna" mine dump, the territory of which is currently already occupied by the advanced assault units of the Russian Armed Forces. The waste heap is important because it allows overlooking the entire private sector, from which the enemy has been striking.
▪️Yesterday evening, footage appeared online confirming the liberation of Artemovo (Zalizne). In recent days, Russian troops have controlled almost the entire settlement, except for the waste heap of the Artem mine and the western outskirts, where the enemy had been fiercely resisting until recently. Now, with the liberation of Artemovo, the Russian Armed Forces can both intensify the offensive on Dzerzhynsk and advance towards Nelepivka.
▪️In Novhorodske (New York), Russian units expanded the zone of control along Molodizhnaya Street. At the moment, Russian servicemen are storming the AFU positions near School No. 38 and the phenol plant, which, according to the latest data, the Russian Armed Forces have outflanked from the east, reaching Kyivska Street. The capture of the plant itself will inflict significant damage on the enemy's defenses, further reinforcing the need for the withdrawal of forces towards Dzerzhynsk.
▪️The situation has also become clearer in the east of the settlement, which has practically come under the control of Russian troops. The Russian Armed Forces have cleared the "pocket" between Shyroka Balka and Novhorodske, reaching the private sector of the latter, consolidating along Kooperatyvna and Berehova streets.
At the moment, Ukrainian formations still maintain control over the northeastern outskirts, from which they will most likely also be forced to retreat towards Nelepivka in the near future.
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16998
Posted by: Down South | Aug 15 2024 14:59 utc | 94
Russia is so incompetent as an army they couldn't even prepare adequate defenses for Kursk border. If Ukraine can achieve so little so quickly advancing imagine what a real Nato force would do. Putin needs to seek terms and end this fiasco its clear he cant win this war.
No, the Russians didn't think the Ukrainians would do something so stupid as sacrifice an entire Division on land that has no logistical nor strategic value. If the Russians are incompetent, it is underestimating how evil the Former West is, sacrificing men for PR and political stunts. Militarily Russia is concentrated on taking logistics hubs and destroying the Ukraine Army. Russia now has an entire Ukraine division in a small geographical area with a choke point logistics train, and an enemy with minimal air support (drones) and limited artillery.
I'll throw you a bone, this incident shows again how Martynov was overhyping Russian ISR capabilities. It's good, but it's not omniscient.
Posted by: JackG | Aug 15 2024 14:59 utc | 95
Here's Marat Khairullen's Kursk front report from his Telegram:
How the dill got into trouble with Kursk to the tonsilsZelensky is really a heavy victim of his own PR. The "Kursk adventure" clearly showed this - the Fuhrer got stuck near Kursk, I beg your pardon, in shit up to the tonsils and continues to drown in it. What am I talking about?
Let's start a little from afar. The situation when enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups massively enter our territory is not new for us. A similar situation was in the second half of 2022, when a solid front line was just forming, and the ukrops were actively trying to nightmare us.
Veterans remember that the line of contact was literally teeming with saboteurs. Then, to combat them, special wolfhound divisions were created as part of the GRU of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Russian Guard, which coped with the task perfectly - by the winter of 2022, the activity of enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups was stopped.Now in Kursk, apparently, these units have already been deployed. It is no coincidence that General Apti Alaudinov became the main speaker for Kursk - he is directly related to these units. Therefore, the dill will really come to an end soon.
However, there is one nuance - ours are somehow taking their time to deploy a counter-terrorist operation in the Kursk region, letting the Ukies loot our toilets in the villages. What is the matter - why General Alaudinov is single-handedly fighting the entire PR machine of the West. Why don't we run in panic, Gerasimov was shown only once on TV, and the Supreme generally holds agrarian meetings, and thus, one might say, just mockingly spits in the face of Zelensky - the Führer is so upset with his swan song, and for the second week everything is quiet, without panic.
I mean, of course, not military bloggers - with these everything is clear what to take from sick people.The answer became clear earlier this week. Instead of withdrawing units from the front, we, on the contrary, redoubled our efforts in the main directions, sending additional troops there. Once again for the stupid - we sent reserves not to Kursk, but to the South Donetsk direction to the Konstantinovka-Vodiane line, then Pokrovsk, breaking through the Grodivka-Novogrodivka line and the Toretsk-New York line. If anything, in these three areas, the Ukies have already received four Ilovaisks and five cauldrons in the future. In addition, there was a breakthrough near Liptsy and near Volchansk near the village of Tikhye. Zelensky, idiot, bravo, keep it up - you wanted to use Putin, and he drowned you in your own shit.
But the biggest charm is that the Ukies are bogged down on the Kursk Bulge to the fullest - you can't go out, since PR does not allow it, it hurts to stay, because they kill all the time. However, it is necessary, otherwise the West will not give money, and Zelensky's wife will be left without a new Bugatti. So we have to drive more and more new units.
And even Syrsky understands that this is all we are waiting for - the more ukrops are driven into Kursk, the more difficult the ukrop disaster will be on the main front. That is, Kursk is such a global trap for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, into which the fool Zelensky himself drove his army.
Imagine, Gerasimov does not sleep at night, figuring out how to break through the main front of the Ukies as soon as possible, so that there are fewer losses on our side. He was completely exhausted, when suddenly Zelensky appears and brings a decision on a silver platter.
Have you noticed how in the first days of the attack on Kursk, the Americans were stunned. However, it is their own fault, they have chosen an outspoken moron. Now let them eat all this shame.
And while the Americans are wiping themselves, our seasoned wolfhounds are sitting and licking their lips at the Ukrainian carcass, thinking about how best to devour it)
Tonight we will talk live in more detail about the global Axis of Evil and how Russia is surrounding it. Do not miss a new investigation at 19.00.
Soon, the belt of small villages attached to small cites will be left behind in the East as Russian troops enter the far less inhabited region to the West of that belt where very few natural obstacles or fortifiable points exist. The main aim is clear when a map's consulted and that's to clear the Donetsk region and then work on Zaporozhe and Kherson; Lugansk is almost 100% liberated. And those operations will last until the end of 2024. What will become of the newer fronts in Kharkov and Kursk is also predictable--they will continue to be the meat grinders they already are--the lengthening of the FEBA by the Ukies was a very big strategic mistake all done for PR and Zelensky's ego.
It's not stabilised yet. Good job Donbass is doing well.
"The situation is gradually stabilizing, and the front line is being drawn. Confident units enter the battle, which does not bode well for the Ukrainian."
I've been reading that the situation is stabilising for several days now.
"I wouldn't want this to be true either. But it is as it is."
Lord of War.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 15 2024 15:05 utc | 97
Posted by: bored | Aug 15 2024 11:31 utc | 27
You missed the bit in your quote that says “None of these numbers are confirmed.”, let alone citing the FT as a source.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2024 11:34 utc | 28
I have to imagine that whoever Bored works for is getting pretty fed up with the lazy half-assedness on the propaganda postings; not even trying anymore, just mailing it in and subject to constant mocking. C'mon, Bored! You get paid to post propaganda~ at least try to make it somewhat plausible? Keep it up and even the National Endowment for Demokracy will fire you.
Sheesh. Kids these days.
Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | Aug 15 2024 15:06 utc | 98
"LDPR party leader Leonid Slutsky has announced a reward of 5 million rubles for the capture of Ukrainian Nazis who mocked an elderly resident of the Kursk region.
"I am announcing a reward of 5 million rubles for the capture of the Bandera bastards who mocked an elderly man, a resident of the Kursk region, and acted like Nazis""
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1824024468668158346
Video at the link. The Ukraine nazi's were wearing WWII German helmets and speaking some German to mock him. The old man had been in touch with his family but disappeared after that video.
There is more on the story in a few other posts.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2024 15:08 utc | 99
Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 15 2024 14:57 utc | 95
Excellent analysis. When considered in isolation, the AFU's Kursk offensive is doomed.
However, the question is:
What secondary offensive was this sacrificial move meant to mask ...?
What's going on Belgorod (A second sacrificial move)?
What's NATO doing in the back-ground?
The peril is not in these two offensive prongs in and of themselves.
The peril is in what NATO is engineering in addition behind the scenes.
They're going to take advantage of this - it's their last chance.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 15 2024 15:09 utc | 100
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Russia is so incompetent as an army they couldnt even prepare adequate defences for Kursk border. If Ukraine can achieve so little so quickly advancing imagine what a real Nato force would do. Putin needs to seek terms and end this fiasco its clear he cant win this war.
Posted by: Sonar | Aug 15 2024 10:12 utc | 1