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August 19, 2024
Britain Claims To Have Helped With The Ukrainian Invasion Of Russia

Yves Smith is discussing the Washington Post report on Russia-Ukraine negotiation to end the infrastructure attacks:

An Admission of Russian Long-Term Weakness or More Complex Calculation?

I had previously discussed the WaPo piece here.

Yves suggests that the negotiations, if they really have happened as described, were an Ukrainian ruse to distract Russia from the Ukrainian preparation of the Kursk oblast incursion. The talks were useless for Russia, she says. She doubts that Russia would favor to stop the attacks on the Ukrainian electricity generating and network capabilities. She suggests that the Ukrainian attacks on Russia create little damage. It disagree with that view.

The winter will already become very difficult for Ukrainian civilians. There is no need to increase the damage on Ukrainian infrastructure beyond the already achieved level.

The Ukrainian attacks have so far created repairable damage in Russia. But that may not be the case forever. One day one of such attacks could in fact create some real catastrophe. The attacks are also binding lots of Russian resources. One needs a huge number of soldiers and equipment to give at least some protection to the most exposed sites. The Russian economy is currently short on men. Not diverting some 100,000 men for local air defense purposes can make a difference.

I believe that Russia was genuinely interested in making such deal. But the Ukrainian attack on Kursk oblast blew it apart.

There are new suggestion on how the Ukrainian incursion into Russia was prepared for.

The Times in London claims that it largely followed a British plan (archived):

When footage of British Challenger 2 battle tanks being used by the Ukrainian army for its counterinvasion of Russia emerged on Tuesday, Downing Street and the Ministry of Defence were ready.

For the previous 48 hours, officials and political aides working for Sir Keir Starmer and John Healey, the defence secretary, had been in talks about how far to go to confirm growing British involvement in the incursion towards Kursk.

The stakes were high. Unseen by the world, British equipment, including drones, have played a central role in Ukraine’s new offensive and British personnel have been closely advising the Ukrainian military for two years, on a scale matched by no other country.

The U.S., in contrast, has claimed not to have known about the Ukrainian plans and there purpose. This leads Kit Klarenberg to develop a theory:

Kit Klarenberg @KitKlarenberg – 15:02 UTC · Aug 18, 2024

"🧵: I speculated earlier was probably Britain behind Kursk suicide op. Lo and behold, a Times article confirms this. More broadly, contents amply underline Kursk latest effort by London to keep the US in the proxy war – and it appears Washington has finally had enough of this.

Times reveals up top heavily promoted footage of British Challenger 2 tanks in Kursk was a conscious, deliberate decision made by new PM Keir Starmer and his defence secretary John Healey. British equipment is said to have "played a central role" in the "counterinvasion".

Starmer and Healey reportedly made the decision to advertise London's involvement "to be more open about Britain’s role in a bid to persuade key allies to do more to help." In other words, to encourage/pressure the US et al to double down on this unwinnable, nightmare quagmire.

However, US reportedly unhappy with Kursk incursion, because it scuppered peace talks. Kiev's purported culpability for Nord Stream bombing is, it seems, being used to justify ending German aid to Ukraine. And the US is blocking Kiev from firing British-made missiles at Russia.

Kit's theory is that the Washington Post story about the blown negotiations as well as the latest "Nord Stream done by Ukraine" rumor reporting by the WSJ are expressions of U.S. anger over the Ukrainian government and its Kursk invasion.

The Times also reports that Britain is pushing its allies to provide more weapons and to allow their use against targets deep inside of Russia:

In the coming weeks Healey will attend a new meeting of the Ukraine Defence Co-ordination Group, where Britain will press European allies to send more equipment and give Kyiv more leeway to use them in Russia. Healey spoke last week to Lloyd Austin, the US defence secretary, and has been wooing Boris Pistorius, his German opposite number.

Germany, whose Taurus missiles have a similar 155-mile range to Storm Shadow but a more powerful warhead, has been the country under the most pressure to move. However, it was revealed yesterday that Germany has actually frozen military aid to Ukraine because of a domestic budgetary crisis. Pistorius had asked for £3.4 billion of additional supplies but that was rejected by the finance ministry.

A previous leak provided that the long range Taurus missiles are complicate and have to be programmed just-in-time by German officers. There is no support in Germany for allowing such a deep involvement in attacks on Russia.

To me it seems that Britain has promised to Ukraine that it would get its allies to agree to the usage of longer range weapons against Russia in exchange for Ukraine to launch the attack on Russia.

Only that can explain this Zelenski complain about Starmer:

The Ukrainian president complained that British aid to Kyiv had begun to wane as his forces continued their unprecedented incursion into Russian territory in the Kursk region.

“Unfortunately, the situation has slowed down recently,” Mr Zelensky said, referring to UK military assistance.

Sir Keir has upheld a Conservative ban on using UK-made Storm Shadows to strike targets deep inside Russia, amid concerns it could lead to escalation with nuclear-armed Moscow.

“We will discuss how to fix this because long-range capabilities are vital for us. The whole world sees how effective Ukrainians are – how our entire nation defends its independence,” said Mr Zelensky.

It came as four former Conservative defence secretaries called on No 10 to do more to support Ukraine, with some demanding Kyiv be allowed to use Storm Shadows in the Russian offensive.

But it is not Starmer who is blocking the missiles, it is the U.S. of A. (archived):

Washington is in effect blocking Britain from allowing Kyiv to fire Storm Shadow missiles inside Russia, amid fears in the Biden administration of an escalation in the Ukraine war.

It is understood that although the UK wants to give Ukraine the freedom to do what they want with the long-range weapon, it requires consensus from allies, including the US, France and a third undisclosed Nato country. A government source stressed that the UK was not blaming the US for any delay, adding that such policy changes took time.

Combining all the above one can (re-)construct this story.

Britain, in a bipartisan move, wants to prolong the war in Ukraine. It suggested to and helped Ukraine to invade Russia even as it knew that this would interrupt peace talks in Qatar. It also promised to press its allies  for long range attack permission against Russia. But the U.S. and Germany are still blocking such attacks. Zelensky now complains that Britain failed to deliver on its promise.

The U.S., miffed about the British involvement in a likely useless Ukrainian attack on Russia, is leaking about the Ukrainian/Russian negotiations in Qatar. 

The above is largely based on the U.S. claims that it was not really involved in the planing of the Kursk incursion.

There are of course good reason to doubt those claims:

As the Ukraine war enters its most perilous phase, with Kiev’s forces fighting inside Russia, the United States is operating a formal “sensitive activities” detachment that is active in providing direct military support to the beleaguered country. The detachment, never before disclosed, is run by U.S. special operations forces, and with its Ukrainian counterparts, provides on-the-battlefield support, including near-real time targeting intelligence, operators say.

An operator formerly deployed to the Army’s 10th Special Forces Group assigned to a sensitive activities detachment told me their work included the creation of clandestine human networks for intelligence gathering, as well as identifying Russian military weaknesses for targeting.

A second operator also described having been tasked with providing near up-to-the-minute intelligence support to Ukrainian forces.

Those U.S. operators in Ukraine certainly did not miss the preparations the Ukrainians were making for their attack.

P.S. Bonus from The Times piece:

“It’s not just about the military support, but it’s about the industrial, economic, and diplomatic support,” the defence source said. “If Putin succeeds in Ukraine he’s not going to stop there. But also the economic implications of that are massive, because we all saw how heavily Britain got hit when he first invaded.

Yes, the sanctions, intended to hurt Russia, were quite damaging to those who issued them. Nice to see that finally acknowledged.

Comments

the coming weeks Healey will attend a new meeting of the Ukraine Defence Co-ordination Group, where Britain will press European allies to send more equipment and give Kyiv more leeway to use them in Russia.
I propose this as the next target for Russia.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 19 2024 21:24 utc | 101

Map of Ukraine once the SMO will be over:
https://t.me/vladi_the_gr8/56806
That is: 6 oblasts (in violet on the map):
Ivano-Frankivsk
Lvov
Rivne
Ternopil
Khmelnytskyi
Volyn
Posted by: Naive | Aug 19 2024 20:33 utc | 86

Dismembering Banderastan is paramount:
1 – Lutsk, Rovno should go to Belarus.
2 – Lvov, Ternopol, Khmelnitsky to Poland.
3 – Oujgorod to Hungary.
4 – IvanoFrankivsk to Romania.
5 – Chernovitsi to Moldavia.
6 – Jitomir, Vinnitsia, Cherkassy to be rattached to Kiev Principality (A neutral State with some Royal Family of Russian Language, 25,000 police force, no army, no air force, no nuclear PP, no gas pipeline).
The rest is Russia.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Aug 19 2024 21:31 utc | 102

Posted by: too scents | Aug 19 2024 21:00 utc | 93
True, but the trouble with expanding the state is that it results in far too many earning far too much, taken from those who have to work increasingly harder to pay for it. This is the reason why unions love renationalising industries, so they can protect their work force from reality. I knew a guy from the NACODs union, responsible for safety etc, who far less militant than the miner’s NUM union and he’d spend many an hour detailing exactly how the NUM’s leadership were selling their members down the river, with ever increasing wage demands at a time when coal consumption was decreasing.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 19 2024 21:00 utc | 94
I know train-drivers, the tests you do are far less demanding than those to fly a fast jet for the RAF, yet they get twice the pay.*
Love the ‘politics of envy’ projection, though, it’s the politics of being pissed off though. At 81K for a 4 day week I’ll expect lots more applicants and the market will respond by lowering their salaries, right? Ever wondered why the unions wanted to renationalise, it’s to avoid just this mechanism.
To give you an idea of how ludicrously unfair this is a Matron, in the NHS, with 5 years experience gets 20K less than a train driver now. Are you telling me she’s less skilled? I don’t know if you remember the ‘Winter of Discontent’? The unions all watched what other unions got and demanded the same for their members 30% IIRC, end result Thatcher.
* I know all about the additional payments they get, but they are context dependent and still do not equal 81K.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 21:34 utc | 103

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 19 2024 20:42 utc | 89
So do I, and I agree, so for the purposes of accuracy, a bureaucratic state that is irreversible, and ever-growing in its powers and responsibilities.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 21:41 utc | 104

expanding the state is that it results in far too many earning far too much, taken from those who have to work increasingly harder to pay for it.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 21:34 utc | 103

It is trivial to research that more income is gained from rent than work.
Why should unearned income be tolerated?

Posted by: too scents | Aug 19 2024 21:51 utc | 105

The “5 eyes” of the Collective Waste” are the pedophile centers of the world, after Israel.

Posted by: Mann friedmann | Aug 19 2024 21:51 utc | 106

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 19 2024 19:24 utc | 69
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Does anyone know why the Judge has been banished from You Tube? Was it Ukraine or Gaza that got him in trouble?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 19 2024 21:54 utc | 107

Perhaps the British needed a boogie man to focus its people on. They’re almost to civil war status with open protest from all sides topped with brutal crackdown and prosecuting for thought crimes. Need someone to hate to draw blame from the uk power brokers. Novichek and the Skripali’s aren’t cutting it anymore.

Posted by: ChatET | Aug 19 2024 21:55 utc | 108

Ed | Aug 19 2024 21:54 utc | 107
An interview with Pepe Escobar. It was taken down by youtube very soon after he posted it and he was issued with a first strike notice.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 21:59 utc | 109

Footage Shows British Challenger 2 Tank’s Destruction By Russian Ka-52 Helicopter in Kursk
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/challenger2-destruction-ka52-kursk
British weapons tried again! – Fail!
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 19 2024 17:27 utc | 26

I’ve wondered more than once what happened to the Challengers. There was Russian hit on a arms storage facility in May 2023 which caused a massive explosion in Khmelnitsky. According to reports at the time it destroyed the depleted uranium ammunition used by the Challengers.
This would account for why the Challengers were not seen at the time. However over a year has passed and their appearance has me wondering. Maybe one reason for husbanding the Challengers is to ensure that the depleted uranium is used in Russia and not Ukraine.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Aug 19 2024 22:00 utc | 110

If Russia is running short of men, then what’s the situation in Ukraine, which started with 1/5 the men?…If Russians get tired of slow progress, then there’s always the Medvedev approach, of leveling Kiev…

Posted by: Pyrrhus | Aug 19 2024 22:01 utc | 111

The west is pushing Russia towards using of n weapons.
That is clear.
Defeat or n weapons.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 19 2024 22:07 utc | 112

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Aug 19 2024 22:00 utc | 110
It’s a tough beast (note how the KA-52 footage cuts at the moment of impact) but the deployed vehicles have been severely battered. You’re probably seeing those saved, and those that have taken months to repair. Remember you can kill a vehicle in three ways, or a combo.
Mobility kill
Firepower kill
Catastrophic kill
There’s also killing and injuring the crew that needs to be replaced, by a reserve pool or trained from scratch.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 22:13 utc | 113

Milites | Aug 19 2024 20:24 utc | 85
*** They’ve [the Starmer regime] inherited the fastest growing economy in the G7 ***
But ‘growing’ what?

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 22:17 utc | 114

Of course, the British financial cabal needs chaos inside and outside because they can not afford paying the Britons´pensions after the so much they have kept robbing them during the past decade, like it is the case of the French financial cabal, btw…fearing them all being hung by the masses…
Hence they will go to the extent of freeing 5000 criminals to put in their place 5000 British taxpayers in jail instead who protest the increasing violence in the streets…
https://x.com/i/status/1825611290997567608

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Aug 19 2024 22:20 utc | 115

I see that the cadre of nuke thumpers continue banging their stupid drums….sigh
I think it is humorous, to a degree, that folks talk about this nation or that but never about the God Of Mammon cult that binds them all. If the aggression is coming from the UK today and the US tomorrow does it really matter?
Humanity is in a civilization war over public/private finance and it is playing out as Hollywood Soap Opera in front of the curtain. Flailing comes to mind a a current description of the activities of dying empire.
Those that think that Russia will negotiate with anybody before totally reclaiming their country territories is delusional, IMO
Folks need to get the picture that all these things going on are interconnected and will climax in human extinction or an end to the private finance jackboot in our world…stay tuned as it is messy and the dynamics are unknown in some ways. Folks think that there is still a pivot to China in the future and I posit that conflict is playing out right now as well and will be resolved as part of the rest of the circus rings in front of the curtain.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2024 22:24 utc | 116

Posted by: vargas | Aug 19 2024 22:07 utc | 112
Stop channeling your inner Shadowbanned. Russia has recently revived the 51st Army, (in the Kharkov region?) and the 1GTA is closing on Pokrovsk, which will unhinge the entire Ukrainian scheme of defense in the Donbas region. Beyond Pokrovsk is largely open country for a 100km+.
Even in the worst case scenario and Ukraine grasp a bit more of the Kursk region they don’t have the time or combat power to exploit their gains. Russia is limited largely by her out-dated, rail-bound, logistics system, a casualty of under-spending and strategic considerations. Then again, a Russian army with a logistics system as up to date as the equipment it supplies would not be a Russian Army!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 22:26 utc | 117

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 18:00 utc | 40
Victor@1616
Your ongoing homophobic remarks indicates some loose screws.
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My bro just got back from vacation in Chech Republic with LBGTQ event going on there. He said there were benders and shirt lifters everywhere doing their LBGTQ thing. His comment was ‘they’re all ghey’. He was relieved to get to the great city of Budapest. Not trying to be homophobic or anything, just reporting what he saw.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 19 2024 22:36 utc | 118

Milites | Aug 19 2024 21:41 utc | 104
*** So do I, and I agree, so for the purposes of accuracy, a bureaucratic state that is irreversible, and ever-growing in its powers and responsibilities.***
But in the public-owned v private-corporate owned argument, how is that rip-off actually worse than cartels of unaccountable, politician and “regulator” buying, corporate entities shitting (literally, in the case of water companies) all over an extorted and captive population?
See what top executives pay themselves, however incompetent, crooked and damaging their business activities ….
At least if essentials were public owned, a decent government — should one ever get in — could insist on 100% accountability, introduce meritocracy, purge the parasites and smash the fatcats.
With “privatised”, the avariciously profiteering owners of everything often aren’t even in the country, or its nationals … hence easier for politicians to pretend they cannot sort anything.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 22:45 utc | 119

Does anyone know why the Judge has been banished from You Tube? Was it Ukraine or Gaza that got him in trouble?
Posted by: Ed | Aug 19 2024 21:54 utc | 107
He had Scott Ritter as a regular, but more important were all the others who he had every day who were also anti-Zionists. Ritter has been adamant that Israel must die. Anyway, he was getting noticed and must have pissed off the FBI/CIA et. al. Maybe he was reaching the old (or new) Fox audience, and he was easier to silence than Tucker who is too popular to totally ban.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 19 2024 22:47 utc | 120

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 18:19 utc | 50
Why the obsession with nukes? Russian spokesmen are generally men of their words…women as well as in Zakharova. They have iterated and reiterated that they will not exercise the nuclear option UNTIL and unless they are so assaulted FIRST. Should that scenario come to pass you can kiss your ass goodbye.
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Respect to Aristodemos, but you are wishful thinking. Its easy for us not in the war zone living in fear of losing everything, including our loved ones, to imagine how it would be impossible for nuclear weapons to be considered or used in this war. Nuclear wespons have been used before, remember? Also consider that the Russian leadership has been reevaluating their nuclear doctrine, understanding all too well that with these psycopaths, it does not pay to be the trusting nice guy. They did most recently in 2022 and look what happened. They had Ukraine in their grasp, but because they trusted, they were screwed, and the result is more than a million dead. Judging by the experts I listen we are all too close to the point where Russia will be faced with little alternative but to use tactical nuclear weapons. After all, Russia is facing existential threat. This may be a game to people in the west, but the Russians are DEADLY serious.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 19 2024 22:55 utc | 121

milites@113
In the case of the Challenger, there is a fourth method that leaves them immobalized, which those who know UK will immediately recognize:
Lucas Electric Industries

Posted by: Simpleton | Aug 19 2024 23:03 utc | 122

Ed | Aug 19 2024 21:54 utc | 107
An interview with Pepe Escobar. It was taken down by youtube very soon after he posted it and he was issued with a first strike notice.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 21:59 utc | 109
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Thanks Peter, I hate to see them They go after the Judge like that, but the Judge is a smart guy and can make a First Amendment defense I would suspect. After all, the 1st Amendment says: “…It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely…”
Well, of course, they would never admit that this censorship policy originates from the Government; a private owner of a media or press can censor whoever it wishes, for any reason. Take note trolls, you have no right to free speech in America.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 19 2024 23:09 utc | 123

Chris Cosmos @ 120
Let’s see if arch-zionist Trump throws backers like Judge Nap, Wilkerson, Macgregor under the bus. This one’s going to be a sticky wicket for him, or whatever the golf equivalent is. My guess is he just looks away and lets “the market” handle it, he’s only in it for spite and only for four years.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 19 2024 23:20 utc | 124

Hey there are many ways of skinning the natzio exposed bellends cat!
‘Pooootin!
(In the now cooked goose late Wagner chiefs maniacal voice)
🇷🇺📝Putin signed a decree allowing foreigners who share traditional Russian spiritual and moral values ​​to apply for temporary residence in the Russian Federation without submitting a document confirming their proficiency in the Russian language.
🔴@DDGeopolitics
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/119940
Along with encouraging many more western ex-military who know they hate Nazis more than Russkies- VVP opens the doors for the many disillusioned youngsters of the Collective Waste – zero hours serfs, no possibility of a home of their own, no career prospects with over hyped education resulting in impossible student loans that will last their lifetime etc.
The only prospect on offer being join the miltary willingly to ‘Take Russia’ and likely become a stain in the dirt in some far away corner … or soon be conscripted.
Hey, if you willing to work and be open to a society that respects itself an and has MASSIVE potential – Go East Young Folks !
Wonder if they’ll be open to seniors as well – for the further enrichment of their multipolar cultural progress?
Some may be happy to consider it for the replacement of the now destroyed social welfare network after the end of the post war covenant – with the rise of fascism and u-turn on glorification of Nazis and Zionazis.
For those who had grand parents and great grandparents who had fought against Nazis and were happy that the Red Army saved Europe from fascism – now watching with disbelief that WE are the BAD guys, sending our tanks and military to INVADE the RF – it definitely would encourage many to honour their ancestors sacrifices and memory.
Thoughts?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 19 2024 23:22 utc | 125

Sunk mega yacht in the Gulf of Palermo (Italy) In the north Mike Lynch and the CEO of Morgan Stanley 19 08 2024

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 19 2024 23:24 utc | 126

Note that Johnson published a masturbatory op-ed on the Kursk offensive. That it’s a British operation primarily makes a lot of sense. The question is where does it lead and what is the definition of success. The problem is that the west (and we can’t really separate the UK from the US from NATO as a whole at this point) has essentially reached the end of its ability to escalate excluding actions that can’t be “denied” and would be open war with Russia.
It can’t do that. Even if we assume no nukes will ever be used, the US is in no position to fight a direct war with Russia. Even if it’s limited to Ukraine territorially. That would require emptying Korea or Japan, it would make backing Israel impossible. And that’s if Iran, China and the DPRK don’t do anything.
The Brits and the Poles may be pulling the US down much like Israel. They believe the US is not only unbeatable but will lift the weight they set in motion. It’s not going to work like that. For one they assume loyalty the US is incapable of but more importantly there isn’t the physical capacity from the US.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 19 2024 23:32 utc | 127

Posted by: vargas | Aug 19 2024 22:07 utc | 112
Why are you so stupid?

Posted by: Naive | Aug 19 2024 23:32 utc | 128

Why are you so stupid?
Posted by: Naive | Aug 19 2024 23:32 utc | 128
#############
My friend, I think your answer can be found in how normal distributions work.
In order for you to be so clever, someone else must be less so.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2024 23:35 utc | 129

B
you got to clean your comment sections from obvious trolls/bots who constantly spam fake stuff in here
i repeatedly saw same troll with same posting MO allowed to be here
without BLOCK function the whole comment section is super annoying to read as the trolls spammed their FUD like every other posts.
either you clean them or the MOA comment section become unreadable (whic is the troll’s primary goal , hasbara 101 : Poison the well strategy)

Posted by: buntalanlucu | Aug 19 2024 23:36 utc | 130

Posted by: Simpleton | Aug 19 2024 23:03 utc | 122
Touché! If it’s a Brit crew a Chally can be seriously degraded if the hot water boiler malfunctions.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 23:42 utc | 131

@ too scents | Aug 19 2024 21:51 utc | 105
good question.. i can’t answer it, but those who are pretty quick to answer other less serious questions might be..
—– regarding pepe and the judge and youtube…
the problem is youtube is a cia run thingy.. owned by google and google is all cia, intel agency territory… these folks could go to rumble instead as a medium.. i certainly hope they do.. get rid of google folks…

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2024 23:43 utc | 132

Why are so many posters here so black and white. Diplomacy is wheels within wheels etc. There probably were proposed discussions in Qatar, where possible agreement on energy infrastructure protection was on the agenda, but in all likelihood it was still very low level preliminary discussion, not yet at the level of formal talks.
Moreover in all probability the MAIN item of discussion was the Middle East and the Ukrainian situation was a cover for more serious discussion of the situation re Israel, Yemen, Iran and the Gulf States. Russia would be seen as an honest broker in such discussions, unlike the USA but they could not be held in Russia.
As for US involvement in Kursk. There are more factions in US politics, than angels dancing on the head of a pin or pieces in a 1000 piece jigsaw. All we can be sure of is that the President did not know, as he probably was making the decision on whether he wore his undies on his bum or his head. Even Blinky Bill probably did not know.
In the UK they still think in terms of 1850. Fight the strongest land power in Europe. Since Germany and France have collapsed as powers this is now unquestionably Russia. So the UK has delusions of regaining ancient glory. I wonder in Killer Keir or Bozo the Clown have ancestral links to the old Tsars. Maybe they want to restore a monarchy.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 19 2024 23:44 utc | 133

@ Lex | Aug 19 2024 23:32 utc | 127
good post lex.. thanks. i agree with your take..

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2024 23:45 utc | 134

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 19 2024 23:22 utc | 125
*** Thoughts? ***
For anyone well educated or skilled, in late teens or early 20s and decent at learning languages that would surely be a very tempting offer.
Especially for guys, since there seem to be many extremely attractive and intelligent Russian females.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 23:46 utc | 135

Posted by: too scents | Aug 19 2024 21:51 utc | 105
I guess renters didn’t earn the income to buy the property/item in the first place, I guess landlords have no legal obligations. Unearned income, the exact opposite for most. Anyway, you pay money to consume or use a product, how’s renting any different, you get the benefits of the product without the expenditure of maintenance and upkeep.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 23:55 utc | 136

@sean the leprechaun #39
If you want to change the discussion to Russia’s fossil fuel infrastructure – the situation is even worse.
Oil and natural gas wells? literally tens to hundreds of thousands.
Refineries? Damage can be done, but refineries are built specifically because they process vast amounts of flammable materials. You need very large numbers of pretty large attack platforms to really do serious damage to one single refinery.
Pipelines? Again, damage can be done but damage gets done to above ground pipelines all the time – fixing them is routine. Below ground pipelines: really hard.
Keep in mind we are not talking about the WW2 8th Air Force, or even Houthi-level attacks – we are talking about small numbers of mostly small drones, with a few modified recon drone or larger Western missiles.
In other words: Ukraine can’t do serious damage to Russia’s fossil fuel infrastructure any more than they can do serious damage to the Russian grid. Not without strategic bombers and literally hundreds to thousands of tons of explosives.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 19 2024 23:59 utc | 137

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 22:45 utc | 119
I’ll accept your what if fantasy and extend it. What if corporations were only interested in the fiduciary duty to their shareholders, not pseudo-Marxist stakeholder claptrap. What happens if those private companies were genuinely private entities, not crony capitalist off-shoots sucking at the government teat. What if, and this is a biggie, these corporations were run by people who believed in business ethics, who practiced what they preached.
Bottom line, I’d rather live in the fat cat private world than the fat cat public one. The people of the UK are going to wonder what hit them as we go back to the ‘good old days’, but we’ve also got; unchecked migration, inter-racial tensions and a government with people in it who believe men can grow cervixes and that all opposition to their policies is due to the Far-Right, this time!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 20 2024 0:06 utc | 138

Patrick Lancaster interviewed Apti Alaudinov in the field (presumably Kursk). Approx 12 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofgybJ3izMo

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 20 2024 0:12 utc | 139

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 19 2024 17:20 utc | 23
Ukraine was destined to become a NATO superstate. The difference is that now RF is inside the creature. Preemption.

Posted by: ZT | Aug 20 2024 0:12 utc | 140

One example of B’s latest pro-Ukraine Russia is failing rhetoric

One day one of such attacks could in fact create some real catastrophe. The attacks are also binding lots of Russian resources. One needs a huge number of soldiers and equipment to give at least some protection to the most exposed sites. The Russian economy is currently short on men. Not diverting some 100,000 men for local air defense purposes can make a difference.
I believe that Russia was genuinely interested in making such deal.

So now it’s B himself who has morphed into a NATO/US propaganda shill pushing the Ukraine angle of Russia is struggling and under threat and not coping and despite previous denials Russia is not ready to NEGOTIATE. OMG. B should banned or told to *Piss off Troll*.

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 0:18 utc | 141

Posted by: watcher | Aug 19 2024 23:44 utc | 133
Why are so many posters here so black and white. Diplomacy is wheels within wheels etc. There probably were proposed discussions in Qatar, where possible agreement on energy infrastructure protection was on the agenda, but in all likelihood it was still very low level preliminary discussion, not yet at the level of formal talks.

Ah, you have first hand information about those “talks” in Qatar. Let’s see: “probably”, “possible”, “likelyhood”, “low level”, “level of formal talks”… So you know nothing, and you believe the empire of lies and not the Russian denial. In that case, it is black and white at the same time.
Moreover in all probability the MAIN item of discussion was the Middle East and the Ukrainian situation was a cover for more serious discussion of the situation re Israel, Yemen, Iran and the Gulf States. Russia would be seen as an honest broker in such discussions, unlike the USA but they could not be held in Russia.
Ah, “in all probability” you know nothing, and you want to let it know. Hey! Everybody, listen! I have nothing to say, but I want that everybody will know it.
As for US involvement in Kursk. There are more factions in US politics, than angels dancing on the head of a pin or pieces in a 1000 piece jigsaw. All we can be sure of is that the President did not know, as he probably was making the decision on whether he wore his undies on his bum or his head. Even Blinky Bill probably did not know.
“we can be sure”, “probably”… sure! In the yankeeland for your information, there is only one faction: the jewish neocons who decide everything about the imperialist policy.
In the UK they still think in terms of 1850. Fight the strongest land power in Europe. Since Germany and France have collapsed as powers this is now unquestionably Russia. So the UK has delusions of regaining ancient glory. I wonder in Killer Keir or Bozo the Clown have ancestral links to the old Tsars. Maybe they want to restore a monarchy.
The uk for more than two centuries is fighting against Russia. Tibet, Crimea, Operation Pink, Operation Unthinkable to name just a few.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 20 2024 0:22 utc | 142

@ Escobar | Aug 20 2024 0:18 utc | 141
except b has shown real objectivity in all of this throughout – something that can’t be said of those you’d like to frame him with..

Posted by: james | Aug 20 2024 0:24 utc | 143

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2 – Lvov, Ternopol, Khmelnitsky to Poland.
3 – Oujgorod to Hungary.
4 – IvanoFrankivsk to Romania.
5 – Chernovitsi to Moldavia.
Posted Greg Galloway @102
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Perhaps, if they withdraw from NATO and agree never to rejoin. The Agreement should include provision that the Oblasts will be demilitarized and no military troops, equipment or facilities of any kind.
The nuclear power plants are still a stickler however.

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 20 2024 0:30 utc | 144

Uncle Luka must have been media napping for the last few months. Haven’t heard diddly-squat from him for a while.
But this week he’s come out in force to troll the Ukies. Love it. Just to look at him makes me laugh. Always pretending to be serious when he’s really just stiring the pot on behalf of the SMO. He consistently says stuff to needle Kiev and the West. He’s somewhat between Putin and Medvedev in his rhetoric. Obviously a good ruler of Belarus … if ya don’t get on the wrong side of him!
Didn’t he once give Putin a tractor as a State Gift? Lol. While Putin gave HIM some nukes!!! I was eagerly awaiting the photo op of VVP ploughing some new Russian soil in the Donbass, but sadly never happened.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 20 2024 0:36 utc | 145

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 0:18 utc | 141
Yep!
I repeat: reading the western merdias and their lies is bad for one’s mental health.
One day one of such attacks could in fact create some real catastrophe.
No. So far Russia has the choice and they know better than anyone what they can support and what they cannot. So far I see nothing to worry and even quite the contrary.
The attacks are also binding lots of Russian resources.
The only question is: is Russia short of resources? My answer: no. Otherwise give information that they are.
One needs a huge number of soldiers and equipment to give at least some protection to the most exposed sites.
Which are those “most exposed sites”? Does Russia miss soldiers and equipment? My answer: no. After the Kursk trap, new volunteers come to be registered.
The Russian economy is currently short on men.
The economy is working full speed, employment is at the highest, wages are increasing. If really necessary, Russia can ask help from friendly countries.
Not diverting some 100,000 men for local air defense purposes can make a difference.
No, simply no, because Russia has reserves. Russian did not even need to send troops from Donbass to Kursk, while the ukronazis had to. Now Ukraine is obliged to mobilise from 20 yo. To the last Ukrainian.
I believe that Russia was genuinely interested in making such deal.
Rule: contribute facts. Where is the fact about the deal in Qatar? In a western merdia and only there with a Russian denial. Please, stop the guess work, it is not useful.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 20 2024 0:47 utc | 146

Why the rude talk about British Military Planning?
1. They successfully killed thousands of Canadians in Dieppe.
2. And the Historical Success of Market Garden where American and British paratroopers were sent over to tire out German Sharpshooters was a wonderful demonstration of the great British Tradition of having inbred morons kill their very own citizens.
3. And never forget when the Brits had all those Aussies and Kiwis slaughtered by the Turks, single handedly reviving the Ottoman Empire.

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 20 2024 0:58 utc | 147

Utube, Twitface etc are all part of the Narrative network. Hello? Remember “Arab Spring”, Kurdish “Anarchy” movement, Syrian “liberation”?
Even Johnson has clone his post on Bitchute. RT uses Odyssey.
It is inevitable the Balkanization of 404 is on the cards. Not sure how many will play along. The infighting among the current NATO members will play a major role.
I feel Hungary might be the first to break and secure a land corridor to ensure continued gas supply. Poland could be next when Germany pushes for compensation for Nord Stream.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 20 2024 0:58 utc | 148

c1ue@137…..you are right, the Ukraine can’t do much damage to the RF infrastructure, but then Russia isn’t fighting the Ukraine anymore, are they? They provide the fodder, NATO runs the show and Russia has yet to deter NATO by any stretch of the imagination.
One example, the BS Fleet. They moved, far from the action. Cant do that with refineries and tank farms. Longer range weapons will bleed Russia, NATO is in no hurry, dead Ukies have Russia tied down, mow mow mow, lots of fodder to mow.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 20 2024 1:00 utc | 149

The desperate last ditch Ardennes II UAF/UK surprise offensive failed to reach Antwerp/Kursk NPP as planned in day two of the operation.
At that point if it had not been an “all in” regardless effort, it should have been called off and the elite reserve troops and armor withdrawn to fight another day……but….
There is no other day, the front is collapsing in the south, and RF is approaching perfect steppe maneuver territory…..if the RF reaches that point before Oct 1st, then one will see a rapid disintegration of the UAF…..so the only solution was to take the Kursk NPP, place the demo charges and hold it hostage for the start of negotiations………yea and Kampfgruppen Pfieffer never got to Antwerp either………

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 20 2024 1:03 utc | 150

Sorry for the typo that’s Kampfgruppen Pieper, not Pfieffer….my bad…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 20 2024 1:04 utc | 151

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 19 2024 22:47 utc | 120
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Chris, I went to Rumble, signed up, couldn’t get the Video to play for the Judge’s latest program. However, the title of one of the programs suggests that his program “Judging Freedom” was closed down because of the Democratic Convention.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 20 2024 1:06 utc | 152

Nothingburger, sometimes spelled as nothing-burger or nothing burger, is a term used to describe a situation that receives a lot of attention, but which, upon closer examination, reveals to be of little to no real significance.
I ask, Show me the Evidence!
The Times is a untrustworthy unreliable lying shill propaganda wing for the UK/Nato and Ukraine
kenklippenstein.com more theories, propaganda leaks, no supporting evidence
“above is largely based on the U.S. claims” and which sane person would ever believe a word by the US about Ukraine or Russia, let alone share it “as if” it is true?
“Combining all the above one can (re-)construct this story.” OR present a Fictional Movie Script for Hollywood based on zero evidence or facts or logic, but loads of action and bombs exploding.
“Only that can explain this..” there is NO such a thing as “Only This” – there are many uncountable alternative ‘scenarios’ that can and will explain everything – the actual Facts and the Truth being the main one. Unfounded GUESSWORK based on other people “theories, assumptions, propaganda lies, and mere appearance of “it seems” explains NOTHING at all.
Multiple unsubstantiated claims, author guesswork, and propaganda leaks, unreliable ideologically MSM news reporting, do not make a sustainable rational theory of anything.
Hideously irrational snippets: A previous leak provided that – The Times also reports that – To me it seems that – Healey has been wooing Boris Pistorius – Germany has actually frozen military aid to Ukraine – to allow their use against targets deep inside of Russia – Kit’s theory is that the Washington Post story (aka Propaganda piece) – the WSJ are expressions of U.S. anger – US reportedly unhappy with Kursk incursion – is, it seems, being used to justify ending German aid to Ukraine BUT the says it’s due to “budget constraints” (which is it? Where is the EVIDENCE for either unsupported claim/theory? It is Missing!) – I speculated earlier was probably Britain – it appears Washington has – is said to have – reportedly made the decision to – (The LYING) U.S. has claimed not to have known – (later) he says they did know before the attack (which is it?) – This leads Kit Klarenberg to develop a theory (Wow, a theory) – (based on The LYING) Times in London claims – “I believe that” is not evidence nor reality – There are new suggestions (omg) – Yves suggests that the negotiations, if they really have happened as described (and if they did not happen, then WTF are you and Yves talking about? Answer = NOTHING!
Yves, Kit, B, the Times, Yahoo news, KenK, the alleged leaks are all not credible and unreliable and everything they says is unsubstantiated wild conjecture and fantasy imaginations working overtime. There is no evidence for any of their allegations or “theories”. Their assertions do not even rate good enough to be called a genuine workable valid Theory.
I do not believe a single word of it and neither should you. Nor do I find the “topic” even interesting or worthwhile exploring to talking about. This material is totally ridiculous attention seeking ‘Hot Air’ from start to finish.
This summary and extracts and the source news media and blogger comments are not credible nor reliable. This is not founded on real evidence facts or logic. This is not real journalism. This not genuine news reporting. It’s a mockery of it. All this here is unadulterated Fiction, make believe and fantasy while completely absent are any Critical thinking skills.
Don’t be gullible or stupid enough to be conned by this cheap rhetoric and fictional story telling.
How Not To Be Stupid – A Guide To Critical Thinking For Dummies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OedkyxEqtA
There is no Objectivity in believing in other people’s Myths, Delusions, and made up Stories.

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 1:15 utc | 153

And further to my #145, we also have The Grandmaster of Serious Trolling, Ramzan Kadyrov, saying that Musk gave him an armoured Cyber Truck, and also thanked Musk for his “fantastic Starlink Services” … which Blind Freddy knows RF is not using. Lmao. Musk then retorted that “only a retard would believe such a thing”. And too true. Numerous MSMs ran with the story! Ha ha. Kadyrov’s trolling (like Prighozin’s used to) shows up the American penchant for completely missing sarcasm, irony, facetiousness, not to mention commonsense. Kadyrov must be having such a good chuckle at his mischief.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 20 2024 1:19 utc | 154

Bottom line, I’d rather live in the fat cat private world than the fat cat public one. The people of the UK are going to wonder what hit them as we go back to the ‘good old days’, but we’ve also got; unchecked migration, inter-racial tensions and a government with people in it who believe men can grow cervixes and that all opposition to their policies is due to the Far-Right, this time!
Posted by: Milites | Aug 20 2024 0:06 utc | 138
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About 5 billion people might like to live in that world too, you know as billionaires. But these fat cat billionaires are what they are today because they were / are able to put their jack boot heels on the necks of those 5 billion people while robbing them of their natural resources and public wealth. Wealthy countries became wealthy via imperial colonialism, slavery, low wages, and other forms of thievery. It is good to know who you look up to.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 20 2024 1:20 utc | 155

UKR and Israel are US vassals (tho in the case of Israel, perhaps the US is the vassal) wagging the dog of Empire, desperate to reverse the tide of a losing attrition campaign by escalating beyond the attrition threshold to full-scale war in order to draw the US into direct conflict on their side while the US retains at least some potential to be a difference maker.
Already heavily engaged and experiencing direct attacks on their territories, it’s at least comprehensible (if desperate and reckless) that they might choose to risk annihilation rather than change course.
Really curious though to see the UK, a permanent member of the UNSC, and former Imperial power, which has just barely managed to keep from being directly attacked, now with such a lady boner to go down the same road. Thelma, Louise and UK Karen going full retard and heading for the cliff.
As an alternative to erasing the UK–say by swamping it with a Poseidon-unleashed Tsunami, RF might call a global press conference, declare UK a party to the invasion of Russia, and launch a single Zircon / Kinzhal or Sarmat / Avangard with *conventional* payload, aimed at a pre-announced, high-profile target, & invite UK to evacuate the area, and of course intercept the missile if they can.
Say, MI6 HQ on the Thames. Having demonstrated both the capacity and the resolve to strike the UK wherever it wishes, RF may invite them to take their lumps, put an end to the chicanery, or face a full-scale missile attack. Russia will invite NATO to choose whether it wants to be part of the Russian targeting or whether in fact they accept that UK has committed provocations against RF without NATO approval.

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 20 2024 1:22 utc | 156

So now it’s B himself who has morphed into a NATO/US propaganda shill pushing the Ukraine angle of Russia is struggling and under threat and not coping and despite previous denials Russia is not ready to NEGOTIATE. OMG. B should banned or told to *Piss off Troll*.
Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 0:18 utc | 141
Take it easy on the Adderall there, partner.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 20 2024 1:27 utc | 157

Britain is an active participant in the war. It’s time Russia did an Iran and bombed a UK military base as a warning.

Posted by: Walt | Aug 20 2024 1:33 utc | 158

Russia are stock-piling their missiles in readiness for something big, that seems obvious to me. Perhaps hit as many NATO bases as they can in one fell swoop?

Posted by: MisterPete | Aug 20 2024 1:40 utc | 159

And now even Lavrov denies the discussion in Qatar.
Too bad for the believers.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 20 2024 1:52 utc | 160

“Why Do Brits Hate Russians?”
– Israel Shamir
https://www.unz.com/ishamir/why-do-brits-hate-russians/

Posted by: Jim C. | Aug 20 2024 1:56 utc | 161

– one post to keep it simple and clean –
Please, stop the guess work, it is not useful.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 20 2024 0:47 utc | 146
Yes. Spot on in fact. What this article and the sources are lacking in are Facts!
Didn’t he once give Putin a tractor as a State Gift? Lol. While Putin gave HIM some nukes!!!
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 20 2024 0:36 utc | 145
Not a bad deal that.
@ Escobar | Aug 20 2024 0:18 utc | 141
except b has shown real objectivity in all of this throughout – something that can’t be said of those you’d like to frame him with..
Posted by: james | Aug 20 2024 0:24 utc | 143
There is no shortage of people who repeatedly ‘Falsely Frame Others’ on this Forum. You are on the LIst a long time. I believe you also have a lot of work to do on your understanding of what genuine ‘Objectivity’ actually entails. Good luck getting better. You may also become motivated to reevaluate the meaning and use of Facts and Evidence. Your opinions are flawed to the core.
Ukraine was destined to become a NATO superstate.
Posted by: ZT | Aug 20 2024 0:12 utc | 140
Your evidence for this wild claim is what?
Posted by: too scents | Aug 19 2024 21:00 utc | 93
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 19 2024 21:00 utc | 94
Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 21:34 utc | 103
Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 21:41 utc | 104
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 22:45 utc | 119
Posted by: too scents | Aug 19 2024 21:51 utc | 105
Posted by: Milites | Aug 19 2024 23:55 utc | 136
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 22:45 utc | 119
Posted by: Milites | Aug 20 2024 0:06 utc | 138
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 19 2024 23:22 utc | 125
Please enough STOP THE OFF TOPIC posts Please RESPECT other users and take it elsewhere or shut up!
@ Lex | Aug 19 2024 23:32 utc | 127
lex.. thanks. i agree with your take..
Posted by: james | Aug 19 2024 23:45 utc | 134
I do not agree with his take. I reject all of it as hypothetical unfounded story telling.

B
you got to clean your comment sections from obvious trolls/bots who constantly spam fake stuff in here
i repeatedly saw same troll with same posting MO allowed to be here
without BLOCK function the whole comment section is super annoying to read as the trolls spammed their FUD like every other posts.
either you clean them or the MOA comment section become unreadable (whic is the troll’s primary goal , hasbara 101 : Poison the well strategy)
Posted by: buntalanlucu | Aug 19 2024 23:36 utc | 130

Yes, I agree. The dysfunctional and absent Moderation ruins this forum every single day. I will back to skipping it regularly soon enough. It’s not worth the effort. I when I do I end up having to trawl Nothing burger articles like this one and the never ending off topic comments and the crazy irrational conspiracies not grounded in any semblance reality. Quickly gets Tedious and a waste of effort.
“you have no right to free speech in America.”
Posted by: Ed | Aug 19 2024 23:09 utc | 123
You have no right to free speech on MoA. Or Facebook, Twitter/X, Instagram, WeChat, Telegram, or any forum or substack or …
I suspect (my own unfounded evidence free hypothetical ‘theory’ for the day is) most regular posters here do so because they have been banned from posting their comments everywhere else. No one but B will have them.

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 1:57 utc | 162

Paul Damascene 1.22
Full on. Thumbs up.

Posted by: Walt | Aug 20 2024 1:59 utc | 163

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 20 2024 1:22 utc | 156
This vassal talk is very confusing. I have attempted to figure out who is the vassal of whom. Ukraine and Serbia are that bottom?
Newbie appears to be saying that “US/UK/ISreal are running all the rest of the western vassals.”
“collective West (US/UK/”israel” and vassals)”
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10 2024 4:23 utc | 344
Yeltsin says all of Europe are US vassals
“US could get the glory and thanks from Europe, as all of it became its vassal. ”
Posted by: Yeltsin | Aug 9 2024 22:26 utc | 276
Al appears to be saying Germany is a US vassal
“German broadcaster NDR reported on Thursday] is evidence of a lack of democratic sovereignty and vassalage towards the US.”
Posted by: AI | Jul 26 2024 18:15 utc | 50
“In Asia, the United States relies upon two vassals (Japan and South Korea)”
Posted by: Roger | Jul 20 2024 20:33 utc | 83
“Trump still wants to profit from NATO through the eurovassals.It’s hard to say how that will pan out. I think the Obama faction could really push for a wider war in Europe if they see they are losing control to the Trump faction. And all the Eurovassal politicians are basically indoctrinated and employed by the Obama faction”
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 9 2024 15:42 utc | 268
“economic vassalage of Ukraine in relation to Poland”
Posted by: Boo | Jul 9 2024 12:51 utc | 233
“Unfortunately, Britain has hijacked some more vassals. Most likely the lowlifes ‘governing’ Sweden, Finland, and the Baltlet states are all controlled by MI6”
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 10 2024 11:27 utc | 477
“Guarantee that Germany will not become a party to the waryou already are as a nato vassal.”
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 3 2024 12:22
“Serbia is very weak, a poor dirty vassal state of Germany/USA/China, even Russia”
Posted by: vargas | May 22 2024 8:07 utc | 242

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 20 2024 2:00 utc | 164

And now even Lavrov denies the discussion in Qatar.
Too bad for the believers.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 20 2024 1:52 utc | 160
Gullible fools and the wishful thinkers always believe the stories of liars and propaganda manipulators. As the illogical conflicting evidence free article above and the suckers who have swallowed it whole shows. Unless Lavrov has suddenly turned into a disreputable liar himself. Which he has not.

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 2:08 utc | 165

From the Times article:

British officials and experts think their European allies are too concerned about provoking Russian escalation.

Yeah, just keep talkin’ that way, limeys…
These people are not only psychopathic, they are fkg insane.

Posted by: robjira | Aug 20 2024 2:18 utc | 166

With the Kursk front, total Ukie/Nato casualties per day look to be sitting around the 2200/2300 mark. Less casualties on the other fronts but very high casualties in the Kursk sector.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 19:31 utc | 72
And the main pint is that the 400k recruitment every 8 months model only worked for the “900 a day casuslties”
Lets not loose time discussing undercounting or nature.
By the same rules of those classical 900, it’s now 1900 in the normal theatres +110% and an added bonus of almost 40% for Kursk .
If replacing 900 , in better times, was hard enough, replacing 250%, 2,5x, those 900 is now impossible
Just to remind that there aren’t many happy reloads available.
As for UK, regardless of being framed by the US, if there is a punishment to deal they deserve it for accepting the role of scapegoat (if the owner says it was the dog and you shoot the dog he can’t complain too much)
As for the bitch slap, and assuring escalation management useful target, etc . I have only one word, Vanguard !
Low level , deniable , response. One active vanguard is sunk, what happens in the deep stays in the deep , “I won’t boast if you don’t whine”
If the first is not enough then I’ll take a page from a thread above. Warn that the only drydock where they make the subs maintenance will be hit in X hours (good luck with moving a submarine under maintenance) and hypersonic the shit out of the place and vessels . Can even be done conventionally .
Right now the second is probably not in order and the first depends on details we don’t have.
But when the time is right …
And this by direct action, going proxy, in another thread I mentioned Venezuela has an absolutely privileged position to lay to waste the most important off-shores the British have in the area…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 20 2024 2:31 utc | 167

In the case of the Challenger, there is a fourth method that leaves them immobalized, which those who know UK will immediately recognize:
Lucas Electric Industries
Posted by: Simpleton | Aug 19 2024 23:03 utc | 122

Lucas, prince of darkness.

Posted by: jonku | Aug 20 2024 2:39 utc | 168

Newbie | Aug 20 2024 2:31 utc | 167
The British elite are certainly crazies and I wouldn’t mid seeing a few of them whacked with a Kinzal or two.
I think much depends on the US elections. If the realists/nationalist gain power as I think they will, then Europe and UK are on their own. I doubt that US faction will come to the aid of the Brits. Some European Nato minus the American try to attack Russia directly, I think Russia will take the gloves of.
Tactical nukes to take out any European military force that comes against it, and perhaps conventional – Zirkon, Kinzal – on what the Russians term ‘decision making centers’.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2024 2:42 utc | 169

what?

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 2:53 utc | 170

Putin’s zero reaction to the events in the Kursk region proves that there is no reason not to give us permission to strike the Russian Federation with long-range weapons. – Zelensky
Shadowbanned was right.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 19 2024 20:58 utc | 92
Of course he was. That is why he had to be run out of Dodge. Because Dumb people always outnumber the intelligent well informed people on internet forums. They had no choice but to mislabel him a Paid Pro-US Nato PsyOps Troll never to engage in the arguments and the known facts. And everyone is happy! Same ol’ same ol’.

Posted by: Escobar | Aug 20 2024 2:54 utc | 171

@ Escobar | Aug 20 2024 2:54 utc | 171 who is bad mouthing the proprietor of the bar and its patrons making one wonder what their purpose of commenting is?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2024 3:04 utc | 172

LEMMNING1 @ 126
You buried the lede. Lynch and his CFO had just been acquitted in an 11 billion case against HP. The CFO died in hospital after an apparent hit and run 24 hours ago!!! The Morgan Stanley person you mentioned was involved in the due diligence in the HP case. Trouble in the heavens.

Posted by: teufel | Aug 20 2024 3:18 utc | 173

@ Paul Damascene | Aug 20 2024 1:22 utc | 156
it is getting to about that time when we find out who the adults are here… thanks for a stark reminder of where this is headed..
@ Escobar | Aug 20 2024 1:57 utc | 162
the newest complainer on the block… empty drivel is all you’ve got… show us your fine analysis.. right – you don’t have any.. why bother coming here if all you want to do is shit on the host and those who post here? don’t answer that, because it would highlight want an ignoramus you are..

Posted by: james | Aug 20 2024 3:22 utc | 174

the newest complainer on the block… empty drivel is all you’ve got… show us your fine analysis.. right – you don’t have any.. why bother coming here if all you want to do is shit on the host and those who post here? don’t answer that, because it would highlight want an ignoramus you are..
Posted by: james | Aug 20 2024 3:22 utc | 174
@ Escobar | Aug 20 2024 2:54 utc | 171 who is bad mouthing the proprietor of the bar and its patrons making one wonder what their purpose of commenting is?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2024 3:04 utc | 172
It’s a troll plain and simple.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2024 3:35 utc | 175

Brits admit.. OK, but the US/NATO are all in bed together, probly in the planning for years, but its too late now. Might have been more impressive last summer.
I suspect Russia knew about it, but it was too logistically difficult to stop them before the border, so re-organised it into a trap by cutting rear supply lines first and evacuating civilians. Mopping up may take many weeks or months as a counter-terrorist operation. Perhaps there were Russian senior defence folks who stuffed up, but Russia will figure out if they need to reshuffle or purge anyone.
Russia didnt take forces from anywhere along the main fronts, but being labelled as a “counter-terrorist” operation, probly means reserve special force units. The kind that get mobilised by attacks like the Crocus.
All it did to Russia, is just piss them off more. Meanwhile the fronts are advancing west methodically… and too slowly for some of us. Like Iran, HezbAllah & Co. I guess the psyop of waiting is part of the response. Meanwhile more Russian people are pressuring Putin to go in harder.
The US wants the Russia front on a back-burner simmering away until after the election, then re-assess.
Would be poetic if West Asia Resistance groups increase their attacks in frequency and severity, to be followed up with Iran landing a nasty blow on Israel, on the same day as Russia delivers one on Ukraine. Timed for a couple weeks before the US elections. October Surprises on 2 fronts.
I don’t believe Russia was involved in the Qatar talks, at least not at a high enough level to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Rain | Aug 20 2024 4:04 utc | 176

well, we see it differently then..

Posted by: james | Aug 20 2024 4:05 utc | 177

larry johnson from tonight..
NATO Invades Russia, A Red line is Crossed

Posted by: james | Aug 20 2024 4:07 utc | 178

🔥 Kursk. Expected change of tactics
Analysis shows that we were right and the Ukrainian Armed Forces could not conduct combat operations with the second circuit in this mode in the Kursk direction for a long time.
A paradigm shift has begun. Now, instead of “cavalry”, a more familiar scheme is used to drop off small groups of infantry that hold positions.
At the same time, they try to save equipment, so the infantry is not often brought to the point, but is dropped off in advance. This is logical, because the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot afford such a rate of equipment losses for a long time.
Special Operations Forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate units remain in the area to conduct sabotage activities.
We have been observing this change for two days now, which means that a decision was made a little earlier to change tactics.
Apparently, Syrsky’s position (cautious) prevailed, and Zelensky’s plan for further advancement deep into Russian territory was rejected.
It was after this that the destruction of bridges in the Glushkovsky district began, which is completely consistent with Syrsky’s careful strategy. Now he is withdrawing the mobile units in short supply from the Kursk region, replacing them with mobilized ones.

https://t.me/ZeRada1/21073

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 4:12 utc | 179

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Situation in Key Settlements in the #Avdeyevka Direction at the Beginning of 20 August 2024⚡️
🔴In #Krasnogorovka – we continue to put pressure on the enemy in small groups in several areas, but so far without visible success.
🔴In #Karlovka – we have completely occupied the northern part of the village and are already firing artillery from there, creating a direct threat to the enemy in the rest of the village beyond the reservoir.
🔴#Zavetnoye – we slowly occupy it and create an encirclement around #Kamyshevka, from where the enemy is pulled back to #Ptichye.
🔴In #Marinovka and #Novogrodovka – the Ukrops are throwing additional artillery in, but they did not have time to dig in properly.
🔴In #KrutoyYar and #KrasnyYar – the enemy also threw additional forces in and also did not have time to fully dig in.
🔴In #Grodovka – we methodically demolish the enemy’s firing positions house by house and approach the centre of the village. The opponent simply has no chance.
📌 The Situation in the #Avdeyevka direction at the moment indicates the lack of strength of the enemy to patch holes in sagging defences, and the lack of strength we have in order to make a powerful leap forward, breaking through the positions of a weakened enemy and entering the operational space.

https://t.me/sitreports/33244

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 4:16 utc | 180

Our source, who was the first to voice an insider’s tip that this year Ukrainian society will begin to turn around in relation to its government and perception of Russia, has issued a new conspiracy insider layout on the Kursk case.
So he points out that many military personnel in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have begun to say that there is a possibility that the Russians deliberately launched us into the Kursk region. For them, from the point of view of military strategy, this is not dangerous. Plus, the regular army can be used, and logistics are complicated for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The more the Armed Forces of Ukraine controls, the more forces are needed for this, as was the case with the Russians in 2022, when they took a lot in Ukraine at once, and there were no prepared reserves, and this then resulted in the Kharkov offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the retreat of the Russian Armed Forces.
I hope the same thing does not happen now.
Plus, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are now pulling everything there, which creates huge gaps in their defense capabilities in other areas.
It would have been best for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to attack and retreat and constantly keep the Russians on their toes, but it turns out that the Ukrainian army entered and sank like in a swamp.
It turns out that Zelensky, due to his egoism, has again driven the Ukrainian Armed Forces into a corner when it is impossible to abandon them – this is a disgrace and a collapse of morale, because this adventure has already been hyped up to the skies, and holding it is becoming more and more expensive and difficult with each passing week.
We are watching. Will the insider information be confirmed this time? The source indicates that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to hold this piece of territory for more than six months.

https://t.me/legitimniy/18562

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 4:22 utc | 181

Excellent article. Russia has deemed the West “not agreement capable” so why would they be negotiating?
If Trump gets in, and that is a big if, he is apparently willing to push this whole episode off on the Europeans. As he says, “these people have been fighting for a 1000 years over this dirt” or something along those lines. Trump will focus more on saving Zionisms asses.
This looks more like a case of grabbing some territory, threatening a nuke plant, and postioning to smashing up some more energy infrastructure. Testing Russia’s ability to shoot, move and communicate on their turf. Spoiling Putins standing.
I noticed Dima showed some fresh SAT photos from the Ukranians. Obviously we know here that come from. Even Saddam didnt do that during the Iran Iraq war when he was getting intel from US.
These guys all get off on killing Russians. They have come to kill, steal, and destroy. They have come to turn the Russians into surfs on plantaions they control.
Ukraine is just a sideshow. A warm up.
Rumors are the new BRICS SWIFT system and currency is going to be unveiled in October. This makes Muammar Gaddafis gold backed Dinar look like childs play. They gotta come up with the big play for a major setback. They cannot ram a metal rod up Putins ass like Muammar Gaddafi but look out.
Something big may be on the horizion if this is true.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 20 2024 4:26 utc | 182

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Summary for the Morning of 14 August 2024; 06:45 (GMT+3)📍
🎯During the night, the enemy’s rear regions were hit with a combined strike by a Geranium UAV and rocket weapons. Explosions were reported in #Kiev, #Sumy, #Ternopil and #Khmelnitsky regions, in #Pavlograd in #Dnepropetrovsk region and in the AFU-occupied part of the #DPR (#Pokrovsk).
🔹In the #Kursk region, heavy fighting continues. The AFU is trying to expand their zone of control, and the enemy’s destruction of bridges over the Seim River is designed to complicate the logistics of our troops and make it difficult to evacuate the local population. Enemy channels have already published satellite images of the pontoon crossings set up by our troops.
💥In the #Belgorod region, four civilians were wounded during the day as a result of AFU drone strikes and artillery shelling.
🔹In the #Toretsk (#Dzerzhinsk) agglomeration, on the western outskirts of #Zaliznoye (Artemovo) the RFAF occupied the waste heap of the Artem Mine, there is an advance near #NyuYork (#Novgorodskoye), our troops are making their way towards #Nelepovka. In the #DPR a civilian was killed and 13 wounded, including girls born in 2007 and 2008.
🔹In the #Pokrovsk direction,🎬👇 there is fighting for #Grodovka, near #Zavetnoye and #Kamyshevka. East of the Volchya River our troops advanced 1.5 km with a front up to 3.5 km. There is also an advance from #Nikolayevka south of #Marinovka, the enemy notes an increase in the number of strikes by Russian aerial bombs. The penetration into the enemy defence along the front is up to 12 km and creates conditions for covering the enemy units to the south towards the Karlovskoye Reservoir. In this regard, the AFU began withdrawal of troops from the #Ptichye settlement.
🔹In the #SouthDonetsk direction, the RFAF have advanced in recent days in the direction of the #Ugledar-#Konstantinovka Motorway. Our troops continue to advance on the northern outskirts of #Krasnogorovka.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, the enemy is pulling reserves to the #Orekhov and #Kamenskoye directions. Zelensky’s recent statements about the ZNPP may be an informational preparation for the AFU’s rush to this strategic facility.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, our forces continue their combat work on the islands in the Dnieper floodplain, with mutual artillery fire and drone strikes.

https://t.me/two_majors/29967

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 4:40 utc | 183

Escobar | Aug 20 2024 4:13 utc | 181
Piss off troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2024 4:41 utc | 184

Russia won so much to the point of its internationally recognized territories are getting invaded.
By the way, crimes peaked.
Posted by: Mysha | Aug 19 2024 19:03 utc | 65

interesting that the link you offer (Novaya Gazeta) can’t bother to have an “About Us” / “Who we are” link on their news.
руни.рф/Новая_газета
(Encyclopedia Runiversalis is Russia copied all the russian wikipedia pages, and republishes them from within Russia… perhaps not any more trustworthy than wikipedia, but definitely the “other side of the story”)
English Translation of руни.рф/Новая_газета
(not sure if link to auto-translation will work.)
Highlights about Novaya_Gazeta include being banned from Russia, as well as funding from George Soros and the Dutch.
So you know it’s an unbiased representation of *anything*.
I tried searching at Rosstat, but the most recent official crime statistics seem to be from 2019.

Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 20 2024 4:53 utc | 185

🇺🇦 “Noble KJF”: Ukrainian CIPSO on Tour
Today, social media was flooded with a video of “noble fighters” from the Kiev Junta forces allegedly distributing canned meat to residents of the Kursk region. But things aren’t as simple as they seem.
In reality, this is just another product of the “Kiev film studio,” writes “Ukropsky Fresh.” Facial recognition software identified the “grateful woman” in the video. She can be seen in the background of the photograph and lives in Chernigov.
In other words, the Ukrainian CIPSO paid this woman from Chernigov, filmed a video with her somewhere in a village in the Chernigov region, and possibly even took her to the Kursk region for authenticity. And so, the video about the “kind liberators” was created.
This is, of course, better than footage from a video game, but still extremely clumsy…

https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1825609930272915736
Photo at the link.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2024 5:02 utc | 186

This is really no surprise.
Sheikh Imran Hossein has been explaining the British Plan in detail for the last 20 bloody years and not in ambiguous terms:
Russia and the Great War – He predicted this 14 years ago – Malhama (Sheikh Imran Hosein)
Moreover, the Sheikh predicts:
– There will be a nuclear war.
– The war will get much worse for the Russians
– However Russia will prevail over NATO
And the other claw of the British Plan in Gaza (predicted 20 years ago):
The plan for greater Israel
Not without reason does the Sheikh call Britain the island of the Dajjal …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 20 2024 5:08 utc | 187

jared | Aug 19 2024 19:25 utc | 70
Maybe like Hamas isn’t involved in the Gaza negotiations going on in the same town, maybe Russia isn’t involved in them either. Like Switzerland.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 20 2024 5:22 utc | 188

Shadowbanned was right.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 19 2024 20:58 utc | 92
Barflies so loved Putin that they gave their only begotten Son, Shadowbanned, so that whosoever believeth in Russian propaganda should not perish, but have an everlasting SMO.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 20 2024 5:29 utc | 189

These clowns are so divorced from any form of reality. The run an agressive authoritarian police state and project that onto the world.

If it weren’t for the English Channel, and the Royal Navy, this country would either be a heavily armed police state or a subject province in someone else’s empire.
Something similar goes for the USA, with the Atlantic on one side and the Pacific on the other, and two feeble neighbours to north and south. Other countries don’t have it quite so easy. Russia, for example, has no natural defences of this kind.
I do get tired of tough-guy commentators from London and Washington, prosing on about the Russia-Ukraine war, with a mixture of ultra-masculine bravado and moral purity. Now the macho supermen are exulting about Ukraine’s invasion of Russia – in which British-made tanks are trundling through Russian villages.
Don’t they grasp that this attack hands a gigantic long-term propaganda victory to the Moscow tyrant Putin? For years, he argued that eastward expansion of Nato would place a hostile alliance, armed by the Western powers, on Russia’s border, 500 miles from Moscow.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13752985/PETER-HITCHENS-British-tanks-Russian-villages-bolster-Putins-propaganda.html

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2024 5:31 utc | 190

Map of Ukraine once the SMO will be over:
https://t.me/vladi_the_gr8/56806
That is: 6 oblasts (in violet on the map):
Ivano-Frankivsk
Lvov
Rivne
Ternopil
Khmelnytskyi
Volyn
Posted by: Naive | Aug 19 2024 20:33 utc | 86

Just to pedant. The image linked says:

“In which language do the inhabitants of Ukraine ‘Google’ (verb)”
(purple) “Buy tickets” (in Ukr.)
20% population of country lives in these (6) oblasts
Ukrainian
(yellow) “Buy tickets” (in Rus.)
80% population of country lives in these oblasts
Russian
……………………….
(German label under image)
Language Usage by Google-Search in Ukraine.

So, yes, this is roughly a map of what “rump-Ukraine” (purple) will probably end up looking like, but that’s a side-effect of the actual message of the image.

Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 20 2024 5:35 utc | 191

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
That’s a nice channel tunnel you got there….pity if anything were to happen to it….

Posted by: walrus | Aug 20 2024 5:54 utc | 192

I’m still inclined to see this as an arm wrestle between The CIA and The State Department. The CIA using Britain as their sock puppet, The State Department pulling the old “we have friends in Qatar” routine. One knows the war is unwinnable the other that The MIC will look very bad (along with what remains of the US economy) if Ukraine loses. It is a dilemma for Washington. Britain is no more than a very willing lapdog these days – have to be for the sake of its economy!

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Aug 20 2024 6:00 utc | 193

retroflecks | Aug 20 2024 5:35 utc | 193
That Rump Ukraine, Russia has already given to the Poles.
Saw a pic of a recent memorial Poland put up to the Polish victims of Volyn. Center piece was an impaled baby held high on a trident pitchfork.
Poland is just as likely to erase those clowns and acquire living space.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2024 6:19 utc | 194

Can somebody explain about this Ukro new war tactic called “small mobile groups”. Why is it so effective (good sides) and what are the bad sides of it? Is it a kind if blizkrieg?

Posted by: vargas | Aug 20 2024 6:20 utc | 195

Our source reports that Yermak and the office functionaries have begun ordering materials from the Western press, which clearly state that the entire Kursk adventure is the idea of ​​Commander-in-Chief Syrsky, and not President Zelensky.
A very, VERY bad sign, since the office functionaries have begun to “insure” Zelensky, who really insisted and “convinced” Syrsky to start this special operation. This means there is a risk of failure.
By the way, we were the first to get inside information about this, indicating that Zelensky specifically started this offensive in order to disrupt the peace case. And we assumed that when the picture starts to look not very “rosy”, Yermak and the OP will try to push everything onto Syrsky’s puppet. On August 12, we published insider layouts and indicated that the strategy for the Kursk adventure is changing.
Will Zelensky manage to push everything onto his puppet again this time or not? We’ll see…

https://t.me/legitimniy/18563

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 6:31 utc | 196

‼️🇷🇺 The Russian Army is smashing the enemy in the Toretsky and Pokrovsky directions
▪️Toretsky direction. In the western part of Zheleznoye, the Russian Armed Forces have consolidated their positions along Gornyatskaya Street. West of Zheleznoye, Russian troops are driving out the enemy in the area of ​​the Central-330 electrical substation.
In New York, our units have occupied the territory of the Phenol Plant.
▪️Pokrovsky direction. In Zavetnoye, our units have advanced along Central Street to a depth of 850 meters and planted their flag in the south of the village.
📍48.1731952, 37.4301235
Enemy resources confirm the transfer of Mezhevoy and Skuchny under the control of the Russian Armed Forces (an area up to 7.1 km wide and up to 1.2 km deep).
South of Grodovka, Russian troops have consolidated their positions along forest belts in a section up to 3.35 km wide and up to 1.6 km deep, taking control of the remaining part of the village of Zhuravka.
▪️Kupyansko-Limanskoye direction. The intensity of military actions in the area of ​​Peschanoye, Stelmakhovka and Makeyevka remains high.

https://t.me/geromanat/32415

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 6:35 utc | 197

🐦‍⬛️ 🇷🇺 The cost of the attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on three bridges in the Kursk region.
Apparently, one of the goals of the attack on the bridges was the desire to cause a massive withdrawal of Russian troops and the abandonment of a large combat area 35-40 kilometers long.
The first target was the bridge in Glushkov. But it was not possible to destroy it the first time, so HIMARS launchers began to develop and act more and more actively.
As a result, Russian UAV operators detected the MLRS and that’s when the Iskander struck. The Ukrainian armed forces found that insufficient and raised two more launchers for the strike.
which were also hit by the Iskander, which, together with the Patriot and IRIS-T losses, resulted in the highest losses of Western precision weapons since the beginning of the SVO.
Then a MiG-29 fighter with aerial bombs was called in to complete the bridge at Glushkov. The fighter managed to fly to the place and even bombed it, and on the way back, while refueling in Dnipropetrovsk, it was covered by Iskander.
To the east of the three bridges, due to which, according to bloggers, the “isolation of the area of ​​military operations” began, there remains an impressive corridor along which the Russian army can move troops, without any restrictions.

https://t.me/geromanat/32406

Posted by: Down South | Aug 20 2024 6:36 utc | 198

The (infrastructure) attacks are also binding lots of Russian resources. One needs a huge number of soldiers and equipment to give at least some protection to the most exposed sites. The Russian economy is currently short on men. Not diverting some 100,000 men for local air defense purposes can make a difference.

There have been numerous TG posts copied here that clarify the situation, the problem is entirely bureaucratic. The ongoing hits against practically undefended energy infrastructure proves that taking responsibility for weapon deployment and discharge near civilians and infrastructure is a task of high risk and no legal obligation. It is the absolute exception for local administrators to step outside of their personal comfort zone on their own initiative.
The impossibility of quickly retrofitting vessels of Black Sea Fleet with heavy machine guns to defend against improvised surface drones is all the example patrons should need in order to understand that a lot of this doesn’t work anything like they believe. Pickup trucks fitted with suitable machine guns and optics have proven to be, literally, impossible to arrange.
Beluosov’s great but he’s at least two years overdue.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 20 2024 6:40 utc | 199

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Posted by: unimperator | Aug 20 2024 7:11 utc | 200