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July 28, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-178
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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I posted this on the pentagon thread per aristodemos’s inspired comment on wordsmith trickery: Posted by: robjira | Jul 28 2024 17:05 utc | 1 Posted by: robjira | Jul 28 2024 17:05 utc | 1 Posted by: AI | Jul 28 2024 17:21 utc | 2 Drone Warfare Posted by: larchpost | Jul 28 2024 17:23 utc | 3 robjira- Posted by: Robert Hope | Jul 28 2024 17:38 utc | 4 Unprepared Ukrainian conscript don’t want to fight, they are tired and want to go home. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 28 2024 17:46 utc | 5 Looks like the Donbass front is really starting to collapse, with Russian troops making excellent progress towards the transport hub Pokrovsk (now less than 10km away), finishing off Krasnohorivka, making more progress in Toretsk, and crossing the waterway at Chasov Yar to begin the final assault. Each day there are more and more updates of Russian advances. Thanks for the Hudson interview, psycho. There are many astute posters here and at other truth friendly sites, but they always seem to neglect the global economic overview. Hudson is the cure to that problem. Should be taught in every high school. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 28 2024 18:20 utc | 7 Within a month we could see the assault start on Pokrovsk and Ugledar Posted by: too scents | Jul 28 2024 18:25 utc | 8 Posted by: Robert Hope | Jul 28 2024 17:38 utc | 4 Posted by: victor | Jul 28 2024 18:59 utc | 9 Robert Hope | Jul 28 2024 17:38 utc | 4 Posted by: robjira | Jul 28 2024 19:15 utc | 10 Posted by: victor | Jul 28 2024 18:59 utc | 9 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 19:27 utc | 11 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 19:27 utc | 11 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 19:29 utc | 12 Why is it that whenever you try to discuss anything online Americans hijack the discussion to Trump vs whoever. It’s for the most part irrelevant … Trump isn’t your savior and neither is Harris … China won. Don’t feel downhearted though … did you really think the 250 year old anglo-american empire could get the best of the country that’s dominated the worlds economy for over 2000 years? While the USA was trying to get rich as the worlds banker the Chinese bought control of the worlds supply chains so even if you tariff the fuck out of China and build factories in the USA China’s going to be the ones making money because they control the supply chains. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 28 2024 19:32 utc | 13 Sladkov (his connection in Kharkov, in fact) is summarizing the Kharkov oblast events for us:
Posted by: Boo | Jul 28 2024 19:37 utc | 14 Congratulations barflies. It looks like Russia might take Nui York by summer’s end! Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 28 2024 19:37 utc | 15 “Blah blah blah muh territory.” Posted by: despondent | Jul 28 2024 19:41 utc | 16 Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 28 2024 19:37 utc | 15 Posted by: Boo | Jul 28 2024 19:41 utc | 17 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 28 2024 18:20 utc | 7 Posted by: Clever Dog | Jul 28 2024 19:43 utc | 18 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 28 2024 18:20 utc | 7 Posted by: financial matters | Jul 28 2024 19:52 utc | 19 napoleon is not the same since he lost profoundly against the russians. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 28 2024 19:58 utc | 20 @6 roger Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 28 2024 20:03 utc | 21 @Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 28 2024 20:03 utc | 21 I think things are moving faster. Ukraine is hanging by a thread. Posted by: Babel-17 | Jul 28 2024 20:20 utc | 23 @22 Roger Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 28 2024 20:24 utc | 24 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 28 2024 18:20 utc | 7 Posted by: snake | Jul 28 2024 20:27 utc | 25 victor | Jul 28 2024 18:59 utc | 9 Posted by: circumspect | Jul 28 2024 20:30 utc | 26 LoveDonBass@11 The claim that the real Americans love Trump because he is a boor and thus one of them is the politely phrased version of the “basket of deplorables.” I say millions of ordinary Americans don’t even like Trump, and that’s why he never won the popular vote. All factions of the MSM have turned against Biden since Afghanistan, which favors Trump. But even that may not be enough to win him a plurality win of the vote. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 20:41 utc | 27 Dima: Posted by: unimperator | Jul 28 2024 20:54 utc | 28 Posted by: Babel-17 | Jul 28 2024 20:20 utc | 23 Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2024 21:15 utc | 29 This is why Black-Asian American Kamala Harris will be a better President than Trump. She may be able to stop it after getting rid of Blinken and Sullivan. Posted by: drsmith | Jul 28 2024 21:15 utc | 30 Looks like RUAF bagged another M270 Himars near Toretsk. Posted by: unimperator | Jul 28 2024 21:36 utc | 31 I wouldnt be so optimistic. Posted by: vargas | Jul 28 2024 21:53 utc | 32 All factions of the MSM have turned against Biden since Afghanistan, Posted by: UWDude | Jul 28 2024 22:14 utc | 33 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 20:41 utc | 27 Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2024 22:19 utc | 34 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 20:41 utc | 27 Posted by: alek_a | Jul 28 2024 22:21 utc | 35 Posted by: alek_a | Jul 28 2024 22:21 utc | 35 Posted by: Naive | Jul 28 2024 22:29 utc | 36 unimperator | Jul 28 2024 20:54 utc | 28 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 22:33 utc | 37 Posted by: Naive | Jul 28 2024 22:29 utc | 36 Posted by: alek_a | Jul 28 2024 22:34 utc | 38 Posted by: alek_a | Jul 28 2024 22:21 utc | 35 Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2024 22:40 utc | 39 Re those marine on the Kherson island that surrendered. Most prisoners after being captured have heads down and so forth. They look beaten. Those marines did not. The one I saw stood straight when speaking as did the others. It was very much a contrast to previous videos I had seen. These were still very much fighting men. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 22:41 utc | 40 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 22:41 utc | 40 Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2024 22:49 utc | 41 Russia’s Battlegroup Center liberates two communitiesin DPR over past day. Posted by: donten | Jul 28 2024 22:49 utc | 42 I hope the Russians treat them well and explain how they were sacrificed for a PR stunt. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 22:55 utc | 43 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 20:41 utc | 27 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 23:02 utc | 44 LoveDonbass writes: “ The issue that half-breeds face (I am one), is that we don’t truly belong to either community. Indians no more regard Kamala as Indian than Blacks regard her as African.” Posted by: malenkov | Jul 28 2024 23:11 utc | 45 OK folks! OK! Posted by: HERMIUS | Jul 28 2024 23:37 utc | 46 So now we have Mali. Seems Ukraine is training militants to fight Wagner. A full proxy war with head to head battles there. Who knew special forces from Ukraine had the reach to go to Gaza and other places around the world Posted by: Hankster | Jul 28 2024 23:44 utc | 47 But I know that if Trump was still president, buffoon or not, things would have been different in the mid east. Posted by: Naive | Jul 29 2024 0:02 utc | 48 OK folks! OK! Posted by: Newbie | Jul 29 2024 0:12 utc | 49 OK folks! OK! Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 0:44 utc | 50 How many hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian women have been made widows, even more hundreds of thousands of children (and older parents) have lost their sons??!!Insane massive mess in Ukraine, thanks to the Zionist controlled western MIC – who apparently use endless wars & big lies to keep the people of the world divided, disturbed & distracted from the presence of the Zionist ruling elite & their chief servants of AIPAC & US/Israeli government. What a mess!! And what about all those biolabs? Biden’s regime, like Hitler’s regime, seems to imagine that they are above the law & will never be prosecuted for their big lies & massive crimes against humanity.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 23:02 utc | 44 Posted by: Victor | Jul 29 2024 1:07 utc | 52 I must ask you: in which alternate reality do you live? It must be “bizaro world”. Posted by: drsmith | Jul 29 2024 1:24 utc | 53 A bit off topic, but not really. AM was recently righteously bashing Boeing’s epic failure in trying to reproduce an upsized version of a 1960s era Apollo capsule, leaving two test pilots stranded at the ISS for over 7 weeks. Then AM gloated about how Boeing had no option other than begging for a ride on a Soyuz. For some reason SpaceX and their huge success in making reusable orbital launch boosters routine is unmentionable on his blog … Posted by: Drifter | Jul 29 2024 1:33 utc | 54 Drifter | Jul 29 2024 1:33 utc | 54 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:49 utc | 55 Posted by: Drifter | Jul 29 2024 1:33 utc | 54 Posted by: Honzo | Jul 29 2024 1:59 utc | 56 Yes, while the AFU still has elite units willing to fight to the death, the situation now is devolving into one where they will wonder if Ukraine would better be served by their surviving so they can guard the integrity of the nation’s traditions as it transitions towards negotiating with Russia, and then later reorganizing after a peace treaty is signed. Posted by: Activist Potato | Jul 29 2024 2:11 utc | 57 @ Peter AU1 – Yes, of course the 300 flights of used boosters have been with several boosters. B1062 holds the record for an individual booster at 22 flights. The first Sunday booster was on its 14th flight. But 67 years into the ‘Space Age’ we have an industrial operation that is working more like an early airline company than the prior tradition of making very expensive disposable rockets and launching one every few months.
Musk offered, but the DEI Boeing management is dithering. On one hand, having to ask for a rescue would be an epic humiliation. On the other hand, trying to re-enter with a service module with 30 helium leaks and killing both test pilots would be the end for Boeing as an aerospace contractor. Posted by: Drifter | Jul 29 2024 2:26 utc | 58 Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 28 2024 19:37 utc | 15 Posted by: Activist Potato | Jul 29 2024 2:28 utc | 59 Reports are that the USAF has now temporarily stationed two B-52’s in Romania, for operations over the Black Sea. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jul 29 2024 2:45 utc | 60
I don’t know all the answers here, the finances are quite dark, same as Facebook, Google, Amazon … Posted by: Drifter | Jul 29 2024 2:45 utc | 61 Drifter | Jul 29 2024 2:45 utc | 61 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:54 utc | 63 Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jul 29 2024 2:45 utc | 60 Posted by: Milites | Jul 29 2024 3:06 utc | 64 Moron, you think things are only happening in new york? Is that even that important at the moment? Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 29 2024 3:53 utc | 65 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 20:41 utc | 27 Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 29 2024 4:11 utc | 66 Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2024 22:19 utc | 34 Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 29 2024 4:26 utc | 67 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 20:41 utc Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 29 2024 4:36 utc | 68 @Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 29 2024 4:11 utc | 66 Posted by: Roger | Jul 29 2024 4:37 utc | 69 Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 29 2024 4:49 utc | 70 Re: Posted by: AI | Jul 28 2024 17:21 utc | 2
Hahahahaha – AI indeed. Only AI could believe an idiot like Kamala Harris has any agency whatsoever. Posted by: Julian | Jul 29 2024 4:49 utc | 71 @Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 29 2024 4:49 utc | 70 Please do move USA politics talk to the other thread. Conversation has already drifted away. Posted by: boneless | Jul 29 2024 6:12 utc | 73 Posted by: boneless | Jul 29 2024 6:12 utc | 73 Posted by: Milites | Jul 29 2024 7:22 utc | 74
https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1817668131143225825 Posted by: unimperator | Jul 29 2024 7:35 utc | 75 Posted by: Naive | Jul 28 2024 22:29 utc | 36 Posted by: jimbojames | Jul 29 2024 8:12 utc | 76
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1817851659151704272 Posted by: unimperator | Jul 29 2024 9:22 utc | 77 However, the lion’s share of SpaceX launches are for their own Starlink satellites, which in itself is a business with an income stream. Posted by: rk | Jul 29 2024 9:44 utc | 78 Roger @69:”He doesn’t threaten the overall oligarchic status quo, just some interests of the specific oligarchic grouping currently in power. He would never threaten the overall oligarchic status quo that supports his own wealth.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 29 2024 10:38 utc | 79 “I wouldnt be so optimistic. Posted by: rk | Jul 29 2024 9:44 utc | 78 Apologies if this has been highlighted before. Posted by: FakeBelieve | Jul 29 2024 11:22 utc | 82 According to Dima, Ukro army is giving less resistance on certain directions. Posted by: vargas | Jul 29 2024 11:32 utc | 83 Posted by: jimbojames | Jul 29 2024 8:12 utc | 76 Posted by: Naive | Jul 29 2024 12:22 utc | 84 Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 29 2024 10:38 utc | 79 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 29 2024 12:24 utc | 85 Posted by: canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:10 utc | 81 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 29 2024 12:41 utc | 86 Posted by: vargas | Jul 29 2024 11:32 utc | 83 Posted by: Milites | Jul 29 2024 13:36 utc | 87 Re devastated Ukraine landscape….going to to take a lot f bulldozers to fill in those shell holes…..lots of forestry hedges destroyed need replacement trees….. Posted by: Jo | Jul 29 2024 13:58 utc | 88 https://t.me/llordofwar/365296
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Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 29 2024 14:06 utc | 89 @ Canuck Posted by: despondent | Jul 29 2024 15:11 utc | 90 Reply to: Posted by: canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:10 utc | 81 Posted by: dh-mtl | Jul 29 2024 15:25 utc | 91 Dima reported some pretty substantial gains in Toretsk, with RUAF capturing the Pivnichne citadel and some other areas around it. They also control the main road connecting Toretsk and New York, AFU apparently for a long time didn’t know about RU controlling the road and they managed to ambush some stuff moving south along it. They most likely know about it at this point. Posted by: unimperator | Jul 29 2024 15:42 utc | 92 @ dh-mtl | Jul 29 2024 15:25 utc | 91 Posted by: despondent | Jul 29 2024 16:03 utc | 93 I gotta say. Your defense of musk is a little like an anti vaxer i used to know who got the mrna one during covid because it wasn’t the same thing. The simple and undeniable proof about musk lies in empire providing his EV enterprise a captive market as well as resouces and investment. https://t.me/voenkorkhayrullin/3012
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Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 29 2024 16:30 utc | 95 “@ Canuck Posted by: canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:10 utc | 81 canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:10 utc | 81 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 16:53 utc | 98 UWDude, Milites, alek_a spout nothing or nonsense. I’ve already forgotten which one managed to claim enough votes were bought to fake the 2020 election without Republicans managing to produce the evidence in front of Republican judges. The old advice, follow the money, has been replaced with, follow the invisible and intangible money…aka imaginary money. All should be simply dismissed. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 29 2024 16:54 utc | 99 Posted by: dh-mtl | Jul 29 2024 15:25 utc | 91 Posted by: Milites | Jul 29 2024 17:12 utc | 100 |
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