News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
|
|
|
|
Back to Main
|
||
|
July 24, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-175
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
Comments
paranaense@349 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 25 2024 4:26 utc | 101 China is going to end up with egg on its face trusting Ukraine’s sincerity in its desire to negotiate with Russia at this stage of the American election cycle. It is completely probable it is another buying-time gesture and to take the air out of trump. Best to keep the hands shaking while the race finishes. Posted by: Hahajizzjizz | Jul 25 2024 5:50 utc | 102 China is going to end up with egg on its face trusting Ukraine’s sincerity in its desire to negotiate with Russia Posted by: UWDude | Jul 25 2024 6:30 utc | 103 I find it hard to believe that Ukraine would cut off oil supply to Hungary without someone in Washington or Langley giving the nod. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 25 2024 7:19 utc | 104 @ Passerby | Jul 25 2024 7:19 utc Posted by: boneless | Jul 25 2024 7:25 utc | 105 Some random thoughts… Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 25 2024 7:28 utc | 106 RU MOD claims they found another mercenary deployment in Kharkov.
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 25 2024 7:45 utc | 107 Posted by: Passerby | Jul 25 2024 7:19 utc | 105 Posted by: unimperator | Jul 25 2024 7:47 utc | 108 Scholz very confused….Germany now allows Germnan weapons to be fired into Russian territory to stop Russians defending themselves from attacks by nato weapons from Kharkov… Posted by: Jo | Jul 25 2024 7:48 utc | 109 In an interview in the Guardian General Syrsky explained that F-16 fighters could only be used 40 kilometers (25 miles) or further away from the front-line due to the risks of being downed. Posted by: Jo | Jul 25 2024 8:00 utc | 110 Barantchik reports:
Posted by: Boo | Jul 25 2024 8:01 utc | 111 Should it come to pass that Trump is elected (providing an election does occur) and is then duly inaugurated, he will not possess the authority to either stop or prolong the war. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 25 2024 8:19 utc | 112 https://t.me/zarussia_1/23126 Posted by: new regions | Jul 25 2024 8:28 utc | 113 Scholz very confused….Germany now allows Germnan weapons to be fired into Russian territory to stop Russians defending themselves from attacks by nato weapons from Kharkov… Posted by: Urban Fox | Jul 25 2024 8:30 utc | 114 Scholz very confused….Germany now allows Germnan weapons to be fired into Russian territory to stop Russians defending themselves from attacks by nato weapons from Kharkov… Posted by: too scents | Jul 25 2024 8:40 utc | 115 he will not possess the authority to either stop or prolong the war. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 25 2024 8:46 utc | 116 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2024 15:10 utc | 6
there are various options/opinions on the table Posted by: ghiwen | Jul 25 2024 9:21 utc | 117 @unimperator | Jul 25 2024 7:47 utc | 109
Oh, I hope you are right about that! Even though I am biased, it seems likely you are correct. I would count the day when Von der Lying falls as the final straw. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 25 2024 10:16 utc | 118 @new regions | Jul 25 2024 8:28 utc | 114 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 25 2024 10:21 utc | 119 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 25 2024 10:16 utc | 119 Posted by: unimperator | Jul 25 2024 10:27 utc | 120 IMO stealing Russian assets from Euroclear was the precedent which will enable to steal private EU citizen assets out of the Euroclear, as well. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 25 2024 10:39 utc | 121 Slovakia is one of the largest suppliers of electricity to Ukraine. Posted by: rk | Jul 25 2024 11:09 utc | 122 aristodemos @96: “Morale is on the verge of shattering, as the Russian assaults have become conservatively relentless.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 25 2024 11:11 utc | 123 It’s pretty crazy that weapons have gotten exponentially deadlier over time, yet the casualties do not increase exponentially. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 12:39 utc | 124 Re: Posted by: unimperator | Jul 24 2024 21:35 utc | 59
There is actually NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER Russia is set to achieve this. Posted by: Julian | Jul 25 2024 12:44 utc | 125 China is going to end up with egg on its face trusting Ukraine’s sincerity in its desire to negotiate with Russia at this stage of the American election cycle. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 12:45 utc | 126 A prescient article from the 20th:
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 25 2024 12:46 utc | 127 All US politicians will be focused solely on the election from now until November. Posted by: oldhand | Jul 25 2024 13:05 utc | 128 After the first couple of F-16 lost, the remaining F-16 will be used as drones. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 25 2024 13:39 utc | 129 There is actually NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER Russia is set to achieve this. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 13:40 utc | 130
There is actually NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that Russia is NOT set to achieve this. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 25 2024 13:45 utc | 131 in todays handelsblatt we get another fine piece of nazi-propaganda, this time first making its appearence at the swiss “neue züricher zeitung”, according to the end of this article. this time regarding prisoners of war.
in finest eu-values propaganda, they mention “from both sides”, yet only deliver “proof” of the alleged torture of ukrainian pows. the whole article is filled with ad-hominems, baseless accusations, and the usual lies we all come to love from the eu and their nonstop values. shaping the narrative wherever possible, with any means. truth be damned.
the author of this article, ivo mijnssen, completed his bachelor’s degree at Brown University in the USA. its always the same atlanticists that write those lies. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 25 2024 14:02 utc | 132 We really have no evidence about anything. Even Dima with his huge network of skillfull mappers blogers provides us only the second hand info. Posted by: vargas | Jul 25 2024 14:11 utc | 133 Passerby@819 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 25 2024 14:29 utc | 134 How many so called Nazi’s are there in Ukraine? Exactly how are Ukrainian people identified by their Russian leaning, Nazi leaning, or their Western leaning attributes? IOWs, how will Russia identify friend from foe when it takes over Ukraine? Posted by: snake | Jul 25 2024 14:35 utc | 135 TJ&TheBear@846 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 25 2024 14:36 utc | 136 There is actually NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER Russia is set to achieve this. Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Jul 25 2024 14:47 utc | 137 Gruff@1111 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 25 2024 14:55 utc | 138 Julian@1244 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 25 2024 14:59 utc | 139 John Helmer on ‘train-war’. Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 25 2024 15:01 utc | 140 Take TOS flamethrower, for example. Is it really so deadly? Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 15:02 utc | 141 IMO, Societies (nation states) should be governed by moral codes (ideologies) not by the rule of law made by a few people. In time, the different moral codes will merge into one global moral code which will enable mankind to live in peace and everyone to, within their lifetimes, be able to benefit from the inventions and innovations made by the gifted few. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 25 2024 15:04 utc | 142 Russia is still fighting to take control the Donbass after 2.5 years! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 15:06 utc | 143 Posted by: Passerby | Jul 25 2024 8:19 utc | 113 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 15:09 utc | 144 IMO, Russia has a giant problem figuring out when its goals have been reached in the Ukraine. Posted by: rk | Jul 25 2024 15:18 utc | 145 Re: Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 25 2024 13:45 utc | 132
Au contraire JPB – they’re very much is a timetable – and everyone is watching it – it’s the American electoral timetable which is ticking down – fewer than six months until the inauguration now – this conflict we’ll not continue indefinitely in 2025 – everything Russia has done and said for 2.5 years indicates this war will end early in the New Year – the clock is ticking – and ticking INCREASINGLY LOUDLY . Posted by: Julian | Jul 25 2024 15:29 utc | 146 Whatever territorial aims Russia wants to achieve it better hurry up and achieve them. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 15:33 utc | 147 The longer it takes for Russia to transition the operation to the final phase and secure the territories and permanently eliminate existential threat by NATO, the greater the risk that NATO will built greater capacity to conduct a direct invasion on Ukraine and Russia. Time is of the essence to get the SMO completed. Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jul 25 2024 15:37 utc | 148 Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 15:06 utc |
Yep. After 2.5 years of fighting Russia is not close to either if these goals. Posted by: Julian | Jul 25 2024 15:38 utc | 149 Posted by: Julian | Jul 25 2024 15:38 utc | 150 Posted by: Boo | Jul 25 2024 15:42 utc | 150 Posted by: vargas | Jul 25 2024 14:11 utc | 134 Posted by: Naive | Jul 25 2024 15:43 utc | 151
there is NO EVIDENCE that supports this claim. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 25 2024 16:10 utc | 153 Posted by: vargas | Jul 25 2024 14:11 utc | 134 Posted by: anonposter | Jul 25 2024 16:30 utc | 154
Which was exactly what was offered in December 2021… Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 25 2024 16:33 utc | 155 @ Norwegian | Jul 25 2024 16:33 utc | 156 Posted by: boneless | Jul 25 2024 16:45 utc | 156 How many so called Nazi’s are there in Ukraine? Exactly how are Ukrainian people identified by their Russian leaning, Nazi leaning, or their Western leaning attributes? IOWs, how will Russia identify friend from foe when it takes over Ukraine? Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 17:08 utc | 157 Lavrov at the UN, yesterday – powerful speech re. US hedgemony Posted by: jared | Jul 25 2024 17:09 utc | 158
It is irrefutable that Maericas great weaknesses have been exposed in Ukraine. Financial, military, diplomatic. It’s a nation of contradictions, a reality show with nuclear weapons. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 25 2024 17:10 utc | 159 📌 Denazification — Russian forces killed a village idiot near the town of Chasiv Yar. Iranian drones recorded him in an out-house reading Mein Kampf . Apparently, after the attack, the distraught mother informed troops that her special needs son could not read, and was only using the book as toilet paper. Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 25 2024 17:10 utc | 160 ..stumble from one disaster to the next. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 25 2024 17:10 utc | 161
I watched a video of Ukrapatsies tormenting a conscripted Downs syndrome Ukrainian. He wasnt a nazi though, so no relation of yours? Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 25 2024 17:12 utc | 162 China is not entirely neutral so China too has to watch what it says, at least to the point of being silent about many things. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 17:27 utc | 163 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 15:09 utc | 145 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 17:31 utc | 164 Trump II now realises … Posted by: too scents | Jul 25 2024 17:37 utc | 165 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 17:31 utc | 165 Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 25 2024 17:42 utc | 166 “Muh Nazi” Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 25 2024 17:48 utc | 167 @ Doctor Eleven | Jul 25 2024 17:12 utc | 163 Posted by: despondent | Jul 25 2024 18:16 utc | 168 @ HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 15:02 utc | 142 Posted by: despondent | Jul 25 2024 18:21 utc | 169 Maybe I’m just being cynical, and a real resistance to the Nazis is awakening in the Ukraine. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 25 2024 18:40 utc | 170 @165 Milites Posted by: Soviético | Jul 25 2024 18:55 utc | 171 “Denazification will not be Deidiotification.” Posted by: Newbie | Jul 25 2024 18:59 utc | 172 That cultural Nazi that got topped was killed by a neo. The Galicias nazi-s believe the Russian speaking neo-nazis are tra-tors because they don’t speak the Galicia dialect. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 25 2024 19:07 utc | 173
Corporate credit ratings cheat sheet ==> https://wolfstreet.com/credit-rating-scales-by-moodys-sp-and-fitch/ Posted by: too scents | Jul 25 2024 19:12 utc | 174 Ukraine is a cursed land. Seems as though it has always been. Black soil fertilized by centuries of war. Slave raids from the Turks. Slav is the root for slave. The Pale. I’m glad I’m not from there. Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 25 2024 19:15 utc | 175 Milites | Jul 25 2024 17:31 utc | 165 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 25 2024 19:15 utc | 176 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 25 2024 14:29 utc | 135 Posted by: Passerby | Jul 25 2024 19:16 utc | 177 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 15:02 utc | 142 Posted by: vargas | Jul 25 2024 19:48 utc | 178 Posted by: too scents | Jul 25 2024 17:37 utc | 166 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 19:54 utc | 179 There are many lies in tgis war. The west lies. but Russians also lie. Posted by: Ed | Jul 25 2024 19:55 utc | 180 Any truth to the story that Romania has started shooting down Russian drones that come too close to Romanian territory? Posted by: Ed4 | Jul 25 2024 19:58 utc | 181 Any truth to the story that Romania has started shooting down Russian drones that come too close to Romanian territory? Posted by: Newbie | Jul 25 2024 20:07 utc | 182 Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 25 2024 17:42 utc | 167 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 20:07 utc | 183 Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 15:06 utc | Posted by: Ed | Jul 25 2024 20:10 utc | 184 With last report from Dima I got a slightly positive feeling that Russia is slowly getting the upper hand. These are not big victories but they are victories. Posted by: vargas | Jul 25 2024 20:14 utc | 185 Posted by: Ed | Jul 25 2024 19:55 utc | 181 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 20:18 utc | 186 Milites | Jul 25 2024 19:54 utc | 180 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 25 2024 20:32 utc | 187 How many so called Nazi’s are there in Ukraine? Exactly how are Ukrainian people identified by their Russian leaning, Nazi leaning, or their Western leaning attributes? IOWs, how will Russia identify friend from foe when it takes over Ukraine? Posted by: Ed | Jul 25 2024 20:34 utc | 188 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 25 2024 15:02 utc | 142 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 20:41 utc | 189 even though they twisted and manipulated the truth, Posted by: Naive | Jul 25 2024 20:44 utc | 190 French people knows a lot about the art of war: Posted by: Naive | Jul 25 2024 20:48 utc | 191 Peter 188 Posted by: Watcher | Jul 25 2024 20:50 utc | 192 even though they twisted and manipulated the truth, Posted by: Newbie | Jul 25 2024 20:54 utc | 193 re Emmanuel Todd presstv head journalist Ramin Masaheri has done much in depth analysis in a series of reports.Have been sent by email if subscribed. Posted by: Jo | Jul 25 2024 20:57 utc | 194 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 17:31 utc | 165 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 21:00 utc | 195 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 25 2024 20:32 utc | 188 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 21:44 utc | 196 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 21:00 utc | 196 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 21:50 utc | 197 Bluffing? The biggest one was just before the Turkish peace talks, I think RF had a huge portion of the SMO troops wia. Doesn’t mater that AFU had lost a lot more, a pause was needed. Posted by: Naive | Jul 25 2024 22:04 utc | 198 And I do not think that losses of the Russian army were significant. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 25 2024 22:24 utc | 199 Posted by: Milites | Jul 25 2024 21:50 utc | 198 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 25 2024 22:26 utc | 200 |
||