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July 11, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-165

News & views related to the conflict in Ukraine …

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@Elber | Sun, 14 Jul 2024 00:26:00 GMT | 400

The alleged shooter was already dead.

The shooter wasn’t dead until after Trump ducked.

Posted by: James M. | Jul 14 2024 0:31 utc | 401

Trump 1 – deep State 0

Posted by: Naive | Jul 14 2024 0:43 utc | 402

MSM coverage is fascinating. CNN at first blush has Trump falling down while ‘popping’ sounds are heard. WaPo and NYPost also mention ‘popping’ sounds. NYT describes a ‘chaos’ and loud noises while the BBC mentioned Trump sustaining an injury, not an assassination attempt.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 14 2024 0:50 utc | 403

Trump rally shooting being investigated as assassination attempt; Biden says ‘everybody must condemn’ political violence – latest

Shooting being investigated as attempt on Trump’s life; president says he hopes to speak to ex-president soon; local DA says shooter and one attendee dead

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jul/13/trump-rally-gun-shots-pennsylvania-latest-updates

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 14 2024 0:52 utc | 404

Obviously Trumps shooter is dead. First he was ignored by police for minutes before the shooting, in spite of being seen and reported by the public, yet he was killed within 20 seconds after.
Dead men don’t talk!

Posted by: g wiltek | Jul 14 2024 0:54 utc | 405

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 14 2024 0:52 utc | 404
… well that looks like the final image of the election … the old grey guy going gaga on stage and the orange guy pumping his fist after getting shot … why wait until November I say …

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 14 2024 0:59 utc | 406

Trump shooting should maybe not appear on this thread directly, but I am convinced it will affect the support to Ukraine by USA. If they (USA) don’t start really minding their own business, they will lose their way of life. The world has about had enough, and the EU will be standing alone and look rather stupid.
The world is mad.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jul 14 2024 1:05 utc | 407

“13 July 2024
23:08 GMT
Following the shooting, tech billionaire Elon Musk openly endorsed Trump.
‘I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery,’ Musk wrote on X, which he owns. He had previously said he supported Trump’s policies, but had stopped short of a full endorsement.
‘Last time America had a candidate this tough was Theodore Roosevelt,’ he added a few minutes later, referring to another presidential candidate who survived an assassination attempt in 1912.”
https://www.rt.com/news/600976-trump-apparent-assassination-attempt/

Posted by: Elber | Jul 14 2024 1:06 utc | 408

Posted by: g wiltek | Jul 14 2024 1:05 utc | 407
If there is no investigation into the shooter’s background, association with foreign governments, etc. then we’ll know the fix is in. They’ll probably try and tie him to some right-wing extremist group in the US, or maybe they’ll just bury the whole thing. A bunch of strange disappearances in the Ukrainian-American community may coincidentally happen.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 14 2024 1:08 utc | 409

There is another thread for the attempt on Trump’s life, a very serious event as it is. Let’s keep this one about Ukraine and subjects that are relative to it.

Posted by: Constantine | Jul 14 2024 1:27 utc | 410

Trump shooting should maybe not appear on this thread directly, but I am convinced it will affect the support to Ukraine by USA. If they (USA) don’t start really minding their own business, they will lose their way of life. The world has about had enough, and the EU will be standing alone and look rather stupid.
The world is mad.
Posted by: g wiltek | Jul 14 2024 1:05 utc | 407

I think you’re right. The Ukraine adventure is over. There is no way that Biden (or any Democrat) wins now. Republicans have already tied Biden to this incident …

Today is not just some isolated incident.
The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs.
That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination.
https://x.com/JDVance1/status/1812280973628965109?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Joe Biden on 7.8.2024: “We’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”
https://x.com/SteveGuest/status/1812256617431535687

I was listening to a commentator not long ago who made the point that most people were focusing on Biden’s performance at the debate and few were concentrating on Trumps relative silence after it. This commentator noted that Trump was showing a lot more composure and polish in handling his post debate utterances and rather than injecting himself into the headlines actually stood back and allowed the Democrats to implode as they tried to control the crisis.
This, according to the commentator was a sign of a more polished Trump who was receiving a better class of advice.
There were already talk that various leaders were already moving to Trump post the NATO debacle and with Trump as President, the Ukraine war ends (IMHO).

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 14 2024 1:35 utc | 411

There is another thread for the attempt on Trump’s life, a very serious event as it is. Let’s keep this one about Ukraine and subjects that are relative to it.
Posted by: Constantine | Jul 14 2024 1:27 utc | 410
Yes there is! And we have cookies ! (Tough we have those for whom a whole Palestinian thread is not enough and think the open one should also present virtue signaling)
Now for Ukraine , or at least Belarus …
“After we had done some work, the Ukrainians pulled back their armed forces and additional troops, which they had deployed along our border. They pulled them back from the border and in general withdrew from the Belarusian-Ukrainian border area. Now we have no problems with the Ukrainians, and I hope we won’t have any,” the president said, as quoted by the BelTA news agency.”
Guess ordering some takeout from the Chinese does more than solving hunger, it also solves border issues

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 1:40 utc | 412

Europeans are entirely focused on tonight’s football final.
Americans are entirely focused on Trump.
Would be a good day for something big to happen in either Ukraine or Gaza. Or both.
(Sports events like Super Bowl, Olympics opening/ closing etc. often ‘eclipse’ other events.)

Posted by: smuks | Jul 14 2024 1:54 utc | 413

” Moonie my very young friend I suggest you follow up
Posted by: watcher | Jul 13 2024 23:06 utc | 395 ”
Spare me the condescending attitude my OLD friend. Just, like with stocks no one actually has the money till they cash out. Till the nations I mentioned refuse to accept dollars from the US directly it’s all talk.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 2:05 utc | 414

” India has a chronic CA deficit, China stopped accumulating $ 10 years ago. Of the three, only Saudi Arabia has a CA surplus (at current oil prices) and still accepts $.
Posted by: smuks | Jul 13 2024 22:19 utc | 394 ”
Fascinating insight, so India and China no longer accept dollars from the US? Do tell, some backing info would be nice also.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 2:07 utc | 415

osted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 2:07 utc | 415
China has been slowly and steadily reducing its reserves of US dollars. It is replacing them with gold and other currencies. From a high of almost 1.300 trillion it is now almost 50% lower at just 0.77 trillion.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 14 2024 2:51 utc | 416

” China has been slowly and steadily reducing its reserves of US dollars. It is replacing them with gold and other currencies. From a high of almost 1.300 trillion it is now almost 50% lower at just 0.77 trillion.
Posted by: watcher | Jul 14 2024 2:51 utc | 416 ”
Thats fine and dandy, but China still takes dollars for its goods. Wake me when they demand RMB from the US.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 3:19 utc | 417

Thats fine and dandy, but China still takes dollars for its goods. Wake me when they demand RMB from the US.
Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 3:19 utc | 417

It’s not enough for you to teach Russia how they should fight in their SMO, now you are teaching China how they should trade…
Your Mom’s basement must be the size of a football field for your arrogance to fit in.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 3:48 utc | 418

@Moonie | Sun, 14 Jul 2024 03:19:00 GMT | 417

Thats fine and dandy, but China still takes dollars for its goods. Wake me when they demand RMB from the US.

De-dollarization is a process, but the trend is that will happen sooner than later. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Markets/Currencies/Yuan-exceeds-dollar-in-China-s-bilateral-trade-for-first-time

Posted by: James M. | Jul 14 2024 5:12 utc | 419

De-dollarization is a process, but the trend is that will happen sooner than later.
Posted by: James M. | Jul 14 2024 5:12 utc | 419

De-dollarization means that countries trade in their currencies, but this dude has the audacity to move the goalposts for China and forbid them to trade with the USA in their currency, otherwise he will not deign his approval.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 5:29 utc | 420

China still takes dollars …
Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 3:19 utc | 417

Money is fungible. Prices are not. Follow Prices.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 5:48 utc | 421

Follow Prices.
Posted by: too scents | July 14, 2024 at 05:48

What the dollar buys ==> https://www.statista.com/statistics/196400/average-value-of-us-farmland-real-estate-per-acre-since-1970/

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 5:54 utc | 422

What the dollar buys ==> https://www.statista.com/statistics/196400/average-value-of-us-farmland-real-estate-per-acre-since-1970/
Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 5:54 utc | 422
And it’s still cheap because of cheap food imports.
Check airplanes (both military and civilians), heavy engineering infrastructure, city apartments.
Basically prices double every dozen years. The rest is cheap imports and lately cheap migrant labor faking inflation at the official level.

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 5:59 utc | 423

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2024 22:04 utc | 391
https://t.me/Lunay14/18522

🏭 Rostec showed the process of 3D printing an aircraft engine part.
The Additive Technologies Center (ATC) , part of our UEC , produces aircraft engine components using 3D printing. This video shows the process of layer-by-layer fusion of a part. First, a special powder is applied to the working surface, then a layer of the future product is formed from it using a laser. These operations are repeated until the part is completely ready.
The unique 3D printing technology significantly reduces the time of experimental design work, since there is no need to manufacture tooling and there is no need to retool production. In addition, time is saved on the manufacture of parts. At the same time, products are created without loss of strength characteristics. Thus, 3D printing is not inferior in quality to classic casting.
This year, the ATC put into operation the latest domestic 3D printer. The installation allows manufacturing heat-resistant parts for the latest power plants, including aircraft engines PD-8, PD-14 and VK-650V.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 6:06 utc | 424

because of cheap food
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 5:59 utc | 423

Agricultural production has not increased 2082% since Nixon closed the gold window.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 6:08 utc | 425

Agricultural production
Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 6:08 utc | 425

Agricultural productivity.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 6:09 utc | 426

Possible shooter info: Google “doxbin.com crooks bethel park” (but possibly incorrect).

Posted by: Esser | Jul 14 2024 6:27 utc | 427

The Additive Technologies Center (ATC) , part of our UEC , produces aircraft engine components using 3D printing.
Thus, 3D printing is not inferior in quality to classic casting.
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 6:06 utc | 424
Unless things have changed, laser sintering gives pieces that shrink from printed, maybe they could get it to (low quality) casting, but nowhere near CNC quality and precision

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 6:32 utc | 428

https://t.me/Lunay14/18504

Rostec’s new neural network will increase the detection range of UAVs by 40%.
The holding company “Rostectronika” has developed a neural network that will increase the range of optical means of detecting unmanned aerial vehicles by 40%.

https://t.me/Lunay14/18505

Russian sea drones were shown at “Archipelago 2024” in Sakhalin
One of the areas of drone application scenarios at the project-educational intensive “Archipelago 2024” is sea drones. The development of this area will allow us to obtain new technical solutions in the economy and the marine environment, and will also strengthen the defense of our country.

Participants practice search and rescue operations, scenarios for protecting the water area from underwater and surface objects, control during underwater work and monitoring the environmental situation for several days.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 6:38 utc | 429

nowhere near CNC quality and precision
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 6:32 utc | 428

Its the annular combustion chamber that is printed. It has a complex geometry that doesn’t need be particularly precise.
https://youtu.be/AZhkVRQ4sUA?t=26

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 6:42 utc | 430

Unfortunately I think it’s going to get worse the US can’t give up, NATO won’t give up and if it’s ever over Ukraine won’t recover or stop trying to harm Russians.

Posted by: Inki | Jul 14 2024 7:25 utc | 431

These are maybe a bit daft, but what the hell =)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBe_lpIeZQM

Installing a FAB-3000 bomb on a Russian Su-34 aircraft
The first footage of the installation of Russian FAB-3000 bombs on a Su-34 aircraft has been published. The FAB-3000 bomb is equipped with a universal airborne planning and correction module; technical information about it is in the link to the video in the comments to the video. Until today, it was not known which aircraft used FAB-3000 bombs.
The use of FAB-3000 bombs can be viewed in the “Military Chronicle” playlist.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 7:57 utc | 432

maybe a bit daft … FAB-3000
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 7:57 utc | 432

1/3 the weight of the mighty F-16.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 9:05 utc | 433

Rostec’s new neural network will increase the detection range of UAVs by 40%.
https://t.me/Lunay14/18505
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 6:38 utc | 429
Thanks. That’s exactly the news I’ve been talking about in post 295, but I couldn’t find the link at that time

Posted by: rk | Jul 14 2024 9:44 utc | 434

Posted by: Naive | Jul 13 2024 21:05 utc | 385
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The tail of the missile in the picture seems more like a Kh101 than a NASAMS.
I’n not pro Ukraine just to clarify…

Posted by: scc | Jul 14 2024 9:56 utc | 435

@Posted by: rk | Jul 14 2024 9:44 utc | 434
You’re welcome!
https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/37688

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky agrees to sign a ceasefire and various options for capitulation and forced peace, because he does not believe in Ukraine’s victory, says Deputy Defense Committee of the Verkhovna Rada Maryana Bezuglaya.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 10:19 utc | 436

Trump is now officially the 300th POTUS. I apologize for shamelessly stolen out of topic joke.

Posted by: boneless | Jul 14 2024 11:16 utc | 437

Are the costs of protective measures less than the costs of repairs, yes or no.
https://t.me/rogozin_do/6086

Yes, even the most powerful electronic warfare is not a panacea. Stopping an attack drone like “Baba Yaga” controlled via satellite communications with electronic warfare is, of course, nonsense. It is also pointless to fight large kamikaze aircraft with smoothbore or electronic guns, which are controlled and aimed at the target in a completely different way than, for example, FPV drones. …
However, there is another point that many commentators overlook. This is the design of budget expenditures for these purposes. Let me explain: budget organizations, for example, Rosseti, must be guided by the approved list of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia when purchasing electronic warfare equipment only. Otherwise, the Prosecutor General’s Office will consider these expenses to be inappropriate, and the actions of an official who dared to purchase a more modern electronic warfare equipment that is not included in this quickly becoming outdated list, and from a private developer, to be “abuse of office.”

https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16509

^^^^^^ Dmitry Olegovich, everything is correct, of course, and bloggers do not understand budget rules, but there is one thing. The enemy managed to create a system of mobile fire groups and, by and large, they cover Ukrainian facilities from the attacks of our Geraniums. You can write a lot about the bloggers’ lack of understanding of how the system works and that the Russian Guard has no people, but if the enemy, who has no more people, was able to create a system, and we cannot, then no verbal equilibris will explain the reason for this.
The morning attack on the oil depot is not the first attack, and there is no need to blame the fact that there was no time to prepare. Now about private security companies/PMCs/BARS. We will not go into this topic, but let’s say that it is possible to allocate forces and resources for such groups now, including by taking personnel from the Russian Guard. The combat strength of such a joint force also does not need to be described, but it is not that large. So the question here lies in the plane of the decision to create such a structure, which, given the increasing emphasis on the use of combat drones, has a great future.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 11:37 utc | 438

Its the annular combustion chamber that is printed. It has a complex geometry that doesn’t need be particularly precise.
https://youtu.be/AZhkVRQ4sUA?t=26
Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 6:42 utc | 430
It. Figures… for Precision there is indirect usage of 3d printing you cast from molds made using stereolithography
Direct printing is still a problem

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 11:39 utc | 439

RUAF hit another HIMARS system and some support vehicles hidden in a barracks in Selydove.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 14 2024 11:40 utc | 440

RUAF hit another HIMARS system and some support vehicles hidden in a barracks in Selydove.
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 14 2024 11:40 utc | 440
And as ATACMS are best launched from HIMARS… one less is always good news

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 11:46 utc | 441

RUAF hit another AFU convoy train consisting 20 AFVs and 100 soldiers south of Kharkov in Pivdenne.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 14 2024 11:46 utc | 442

for Precision
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 11:39 utc | 439

I miss-spoke. I should have said “surface finish” rather than “precision”.
https://at-machining.com/surface-finish-chart/

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 12:26 utc | 443

The United States is ahead of EUrope. If EUrope keeps copying the election-winning strategies of the USA, we may end up copying the violence and killings too.
The difference between US and EU is that there is a war in Ukraine raging. When the war in Ukraine ends, any weapon that fits in the trunk of a car may end up being sold to criminals or terrorists.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 14 2024 13:21 utc | 444

Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 12:26 utc | 443
It’s very well suited to complex heat exchanger and combustion chamber geometries, so that’s liquid-fuelled rocket engines, jet engine (especially recuperating variants), plus plain old heat exchangers.
Surface roughness will increased the effective surface area so it’s logical that it could even be beneficial if design optimisation accounts for the production artefacts.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 13:24 utc | 445

I’n not pro Ukraine just to clarify…
Posted by: scc | Jul 14 2024 9:56 utc | 435

In a manner of speaking we’re *ALL* pro-Ukraine as we’d rather not see Z & NATO conspire to kill it’s citizens and wreck the lansdscape in service of globalist warmongers.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 14 2024 13:48 utc | 446

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 14 2024 13:48 utc | 446
Amen to that.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 13:51 utc | 447

” Money is fungible. Prices are not. Follow Prices.
Posted by: too scents | Jul 14 2024 5:48 utc | 421 ”
This isnt about money or prices, its about standing up to the US evil.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 14:04 utc | 448

” It’s not enough for you to teach Russia how they should fight in their SMO, now you are teaching China how they should trade…
Your Mom’s basement must be the size of a football field for your arrogance to fit in.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 3:48 utc | 418 ”
So many words and nothing of value was said, and a cheap obligatory attempt at an insult. You must be proud.
Dollarization means absolutely nothing unless the US is forced to buy goods from other nations using THEIR currencies. I see this is beyond your grasp.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 14:08 utc | 449

It’s possible these guys are only getting away with such close shaves because the FPVs are impact fused. Clouds of dirt being kicked up suggests the energy is being directed into the ground.
https://t.me/intelslava/63014

🇺🇦Footage of the Hispaniola soldiers on motorcycles under fire from enemy FPV drones breaking through to their positions in Chasov Yar.
As before, due to the complete dominance of drones in the sky in many areas, sometimes only fast, small and mobile vehicles allow fighters to overcome open areas of terrain where heavy and slow equipment is usually left to burn out at the side of the road.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 14:37 utc | 450

D*ed*ollarization means absolutely nothing unless the US is forced to buy goods from other nations using THEIR currencies. I see this is beyond your grasp.
Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 14:08 utc | 449

*correction is mine*
So, you ARE backing off now, because in 417 you definitely talked about China charging the USA not in Yuan but in RMB, otherwise you were not impressed.
What of any value van be said to a dude who thinks he is fit to teach Russia how to fight and China how to trade… “Go teach Kamala Harris how to such cocks” – is the most value I can come up with. I see that it is not beyond your grasp.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 14:52 utc | 451

Now I stand corrected. Lost myself in translation and admit that I was wrong

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 14:58 utc | 452

you definitely talked about China charging the USA not in Yuan but in RMB,
Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 14:52 utc | 451
Not agreeing with the other poster but Yuan and RMB are the same 😀
The renminbi (Chinese: 人民币; pinyin: Rénmínbì; lit. ‘People’s Currency’; symbol: ¥; ISO code: CNY; abbreviation: RMB) is the official currency of the People’s Republic of China.[a] It is the world’s fifth most traded currency as of April 2022.[3]
The yuan (Chinese: 元 or simplified Chinese: 圆; traditional Chinese: 圓; pinyin: yuán) is the basic unit of the renminbi. One yuan is divided into 10 jiao (Chinese: 角; pinyin: jiǎo), and the jiao is further subdivided into 10 fen (Chinese: 分; pinyin: fēn). The renminbi is issued by the People’s Bank of China, the monetary authority of China.[4]

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 15:01 utc | 453

” Now I stand corrected. Lost myself in translation and admit that I was wrong
Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 14:58 utc | 452 ”
An apology would be nice.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 15:38 utc | 454

An apology would be nice.
Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 15:38 utc | 454

Nah, it was my mistake in languages, I still consider you an arrogant smart ass.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 16:02 utc | 455

” Nah, it was my mistake in languages, I still consider you an arrogant smart ass.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Jul 14 2024 16:02 utc | 455 ”
Of course not, as you have no honor. Why am I an arrogant, smart ass? Citations of said arrogance should be provided.

Posted by: Moonie | Jul 14 2024 16:47 utc | 456

It’s possible these guys are only getting away with such close shaves because the FPVs are impact fused.
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 14:37 utc | 450
Because most of natostan drones aren’t military drones, they grab everything there is on the market and put shells or grenades under them. And then they use everything they have for anything they find, which most of the time is completely idiotic and the main reason they get killed by the millions.
The text also suggest the burned vehicle is Russian “only fast, small and mobile vehicles allow fighters to overcome open areas of terrain where heavy and slow equipment is usually left to burn out at the side of the road”
But the burned tank is facing the opposite direction. So they suggest RF troops were running from the city on a tank which was destroyed by these fantastic nato drones, then 3 other guys returned to conquer the city on bikes?

Posted by: rk | Jul 14 2024 16:53 utc | 457

Posted by: rk | Jul 14 2024 16:53 utc | 457
The FPV drones more than likely carry HEAT warheads, which can dual purpose as an anti-personnel round, but with less effect than conventional HE. If the warhead has a stand-off probe, with a precursor charge to take on reactive armour, it might explain the type of explosion seen in the clip and the negligible effect of near misses.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 14 2024 20:11 utc | 458

Re the FPV’s.
They seem to carry several different charges. A lot of the unki/nato drones that attack armour have an RPG warhead strapped underneath.
The little anti personal drones seem to have very small charges, and seem to have some form of motion sensor fuse. They appear to detonate once they have stopped moving.
The Russian anti personnel drones appear more leathal that the Ukie drones. Possibly the Russian ones carry a fragment warhead and the ukie drones just explosive due to weight.
karlof1 also thought the Russian higher quality body armour was part of the difference. Those russian troops we see out in the open on a trench raid may well be equipped with top of the line body armour.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 14 2024 20:41 utc | 459

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 14 2024 20:41 utc | 459
If the drone operator knows the target, they’re going to arm their drones accordingly, but if they are flying interdiction missions a dual purpose warhead is likely to be selected, so they can engage both armoured and soft targets with a good chance of killing or disabling it. Drones will progressively get less effective the longer the conflict goes on, until they are seen as just another option in a commanders toolbox.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 14 2024 22:58 utc | 460