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July 4, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-157
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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God I wish media commentators (on both sides of the SMO) would stop calling Orban’s visit (a) to Zelensky, and (b) to Putin a “surprise”. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Jul 6 2024 2:49 utc | 301 Posted by: Minaa | Jul 6 2024 2:43 utc | 299 Posted by: Elber | Jul 6 2024 3:14 utc | 302 Re Biden resignation Posted by: Minaa | Jul 6 2024 3:25 utc | 303 Posted by: Minaa | Jul 6 2024 3:25 utc | 302 Posted by: Elber | Jul 6 2024 3:30 utc | 304 @Archetypex | Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:17:00 GMT | 296
Resigning or not running? There’s a difference. Also, I wouldn’t put much stock in any breaking news by Tom Fitton. If it happens, it will be leaked beforehand to the NYT or Washington Post the night before. Posted by: James M. | Jul 6 2024 3:51 utc | 305 Posted by: James M. | Jul 6 2024 3:51 utc | 304 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 6 2024 5:08 utc | 306 Another one bites the dust…. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 6 2024 5:09 utc | 307 The Russians destroyed a few airfields which were designated for F-16 refurb and possibly flight/combat ops. Maybe, there were also a few airplanes, parts and mechanics around. They made multiple trips which peaked my interest. Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jul 6 2024 6:11 utc | 308 Is it possible that the aircraft destroyed recently were in fact F16’s rather than Su27’s as reported? Posted by: too scents | Jul 6 2024 6:20 utc | 309 @Archetypex | Sat, 06 Jul 2024 05:08:00 GMT | 305
I don’t know. But we’ll find out in a few days. Posted by: James M. | Jul 6 2024 6:35 utc | 310 Suresh @ 306
Maybe they forgot to punch some holes for air in the body bag? Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 6 2024 7:16 utc | 311 Interview with Viktor Orbán after his meeting with Putin: Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 6 2024 7:47 utc | 312 Bakhmut was taken last summer and now Russia has pushed 8 km west to the canal at Chasiv Yar. Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 6 2024 8:51 utc | 313 This is especially ironic considering all the Z-bots losing their mind about Bakhmut and declaring that it would break the Ukraine’s back, with Russian tank columns rolling freely to Kramatorsk soon afterward. Posted by: Micron | Jul 6 2024 8:54 utc | 314 This is especially ironic considering all the Z-bots losing their mind about Bakhmut and declaring that it would break the Ukraine’s back, with Russian tank columns rolling freely to Kramatorsk soon afterward. Posted by: Micron | Jul 6 2024 8:54 utc | 315 From the start of the SMO, a quick recap of all the “decisive battles” which were supposed to collapse the Ukie forces : Posted by: Micron | Jul 6 2024 9:00 utc | 316 Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 6 2024 8:51 utc | 312 Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 6 2024 9:03 utc | 317 Dima: Posted by: unimperator | Jul 6 2024 9:12 utc | 318 Posted by: Micron | Jul 6 2024 9:00 utc | 315 Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 6 2024 9:20 utc | 319 Interview with Viktor Orbán after his meeting with Putin: Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Jul 6 2024 9:23 utc | 320
why would germany want an “honest and personal discussion” with hungary? all they can do is lecture others on their “behaviour”, and the hungarians probably figured out that nothing of value would come to pass if they talk with anal ena. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 6 2024 9:33 utc | 321
right… Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 6 2024 9:37 utc | 322 all the while Ukraine is the biggest army in Europe,” Posted by: canuck | Jul 6 2024 9:43 utc | 322 Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 6 2024 10:06 utc | 324 qJake Blanchard Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 6 2024 10:26 utc | 325 Ukraine now proudly number 1 in the World. Yup, in debt to the IMF. The $13B+ seems unlikely to be repaid this century. Posted by: JohninMK | Jul 6 2024 11:23 utc | 326 Poor Micron, Posted by: Wæsfjord | Jul 6 2024 11:50 utc | 327 “Posted by: canuck | Jul 6 2024 9:43 utc | 322 “Jake Blanchard germanys welt.de :
german media falls further down the drain. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 6 2024 12:08 utc | 330 Posted by: comrade simba | Jul 6 2024 0:28 utc | 289 Posted by: Milites | Jul 6 2024 12:11 utc | 331 Posted by: Wæsfjord | Jul 6 2024 11:50 utc | 326 Posted by: Milites | Jul 6 2024 12:49 utc | 332 I was working on a longer comment but instead figure I’ll just throw out some rhetorical questions: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 6 2024 12:51 utc | 333 Orbán mentioned the guys who die every minute of this conflict. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Jul 6 2024 13:02 utc | 334 Is it possible that the aircraft destroyed recently were in fact F16’s rather than Su27’s as reported? Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 6 2024 13:23 utc | 335 “He mentioned some “other surprises in the pipeline” ???? China, Turkey, UK, visits, maybe?” Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 6 2024 13:34 utc | 336 Tulsi tosses Biden in the trash can and slam the lid shut: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 6 2024 13:45 utc | 337 Of course there may also have been mock up planes and other decoys with a few real ones. Anyhow, just my speculation. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 6 2024 13:47 utc | 338 The Global hawk is active again after almost two weeks of absence, albeit not over the Black Sea. The new route takes it over Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. So not really supporting anything in Ukraine or Crimea. Posted by: unimperator | Jul 6 2024 13:59 utc | 339 Not seen a report of a MiG-31 shooting down cruise missiles before (though I may have missed previous example).
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 6 2024 14:44 utc | 340 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 6 2024 13:47 utc | 337 Posted by: Milites | Jul 6 2024 15:16 utc | 342 https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16396
https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16400
Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 6 2024 15:25 utc | 343 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 6 2024 13:47 utc | 337 Posted by: Milites | Jul 6 2024 15:32 utc | 344 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 6 2024 13:47 utc | 337 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 6 2024 15:39 utc | 345 “He mentioned some “other surprises in the pipeline” ???? China, Turkey, UK, visits, maybe?” Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 15:54 utc | 346 The US military is increasingly working on development of autonomous hunter-killer drones that seek targets without further communication after launch in order to circumvent EW interference. The missing link to Terminator world is robotic manufacturing and deployment. How long now? Posted by: the pessimist | Jul 6 2024 16:00 utc | 347 “#229 vargas=Zannon=Napoleon=Micron= D*icks heads ……” Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 6 2024 15:39 utc | 345 Posted by: Milites | Jul 6 2024 16:54 utc | 349 RF now needs to decapitate all the oil and transportation infrastructure.. Posted by: jopalolive | Jul 7 2024 1:16 utc | 350 @olive 350: Posted by: FrankDrakman | Jul 7 2024 11:33 utc | 351 The Hungarian government has canceled a visit by [German] Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (Greens) to Budapest planned for Monday at short notice. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 7 2024 15:45 utc | 352 |
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