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July 28, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-179
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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How was such light, small fragmentation able to cause such focused casualties? Posted by: delhiliterally | Jul 29 2024 8:23 utc | 101 Oh, the shame of being friends of Israel…there is none. US, western media, controlled by purposeful and useful Zionists alike. Truly a disgusting that they use the general peacefulness of normal people and push the murderous envelope Posted by: Hahajizzjizz | Jul 29 2024 9:07 utc | 102 Meanwhile back to the (plausible) Genocide: Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 9:17 utc | 103 Note – as the occupying power, it’s the Likud gov’ts responsiblilty to house,feed, and protect the civilian population of Gaza. As a practical matter that means in places outside the war zone such as Jaffa, Deir Yassin, Beersheba, etc. Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 9:20 utc | 104 From a few months ago; Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 9:23 utc | 105 An interesting examination by Laith regarding latest developments. Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 29 2024 9:58 utc | 106 Post Posted by: Menz | Jul 29 2024 10:09 utc | 107 Khalissee Posted by: Menz | Jul 29 2024 10:10 utc | 108 “It looks like Russia might take Nui York by summer’s end. Congratulations barflies. The Cradle Posted by: Menz | Jul 29 2024 10:11 utc | 110 ADAM Posted by: Menz | Jul 29 2024 10:12 utc | 111 Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸 Posted by: Menz | Jul 29 2024 10:12 utc | 112 Iran Observer Posted by: Menz | Jul 29 2024 10:13 utc | 113 The riders of the [nazi genocides]…. riding it like surfers riding a wave. Surfing on the long dead bodies of [Jews] and creating a new sea of bodies to surf on. So the Palestinian flag is authorized for athletes at the Olympics ceremony in Paris but not in Germany? I hope a huge crowdfunding is launched to help this guy. The politicians responsible for this new wave of fascism in Germany need to be held accountable. I repost the link, please save it to other platforms. Posted by: Minaa | Jul 29 2024 10:58 utc | 116 IMO, the Chinese initiative for a minimum agreement between the Palestinian organizations and the prospect of normalized relations between Syria & Turkey freeing up Syrian forces to be deployed in the South & Eastern fronts are “fear factors” and, combined with the time frame of US election campaign, accelerators for the Zionist entity’s escapades and their “opportunity window”. Posted by: Memory Man | Jul 29 2024 11:07 utc | 117 @Suresh | 88 Posted by: teri | Jul 29 2024 12:10 utc | 118 michaelj72 | Jul 29 2024 1:35 utc | 65 Posted by: teri | Jul 29 2024 12:27 utc | 119 Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 9:23 utc | 105 Posted by: Naive | Jul 29 2024 12:32 utc | 120 Re: Tee-Shit with Palestine Flag in Berlin Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 13:03 utc | 121 Jesus. Posted by: teri | Jul 29 2024 13:51 utc | 122 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 6:32 utc | 93 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 29 2024 13:55 utc | 123 I am pissed at the reporting by Xinhuanet about the bombing at Majdal Shams, the Druze town in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 14:05 utc | 124 OMG!!! Check out Trump’s reaction to Bibi!!!!! Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 14:07 utc | 125 Iran could teach the Viet Minh a thing or two about tunnels: Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 14:11 utc | 126 @Exile 121 Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jul 29 2024 14:50 utc | 127 teri@1351 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 29 2024 15:05 utc | 128 minea@1058 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 29 2024 15:11 utc | 129 Menz@1013 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 29 2024 15:21 utc | 130 Thanks for the info on the Izzies pushing their Iron Dome systems close to the border of Lebanon. Likely indicates that the assault is ON. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 29 2024 15:33 utc | 131 Add Britain to the list of https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13651241/David-Lammy-says-Britain-restart-funding-aid-body-Gaza-21m-injection-Foreign-Secretary-reverses-pause-prompted-unsubstantiated-claims-staff-involved-Hamas-terror-attacks-Israel.html Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 29 2024 16:26 utc | 132 Combat footage : Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 16:55 utc | 133 archbungle@1533 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 29 2024 16:58 utc | 134 France Macron calls Iran President Masoud Pezeshkian to beg him to rein Hezbollah/Lebanon “response” and let Israel have a victory. A “limited” victory. Iran stays steady. Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 29 2024 17:11 utc | 135 To the commenter tracking tank kills
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 29 2024 17:34 utc | 136 Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 29 2024 16:26 utc | 132 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Jul 29 2024 17:54 utc | 137 Jonathan Cook is an exemplary journalist and always worth the time to read. Posted by: JB | Jul 29 2024 17:57 utc | 138 Merkava Tally now 208 knocked out since 2.Oct Posted by: Exile | Jul 29 2024 18:06 utc | 139 Lev Davidovich @ 137 Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 29 2024 18:19 utc | 140 Germany remains an occupied nation. Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 18:46 utc | 141 I have read the book and later watched the movie. It is worth a read or a watch. Good story. Posted by: golddigger | Jul 29 2024 19:04 utc | 142 OMG!!! Check out Trump’s reaction to Bibi!!!!! Posted by: Delhi literally | Jul 29 2024 19:09 utc | 143 Russia and China would benefit by providing air defence to Lebanon, Iran and Syria, since Ukraine will soon be provided the same aircraft and weapons to attack Russia, and Taiwan the same. Posted by: delhiliterally | Jul 29 2024 19:12 utc | 144 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 29 2024 13:55 utc | 123 Posted by: badjoke | Jul 29 2024 20:12 utc | 145 @81 Arch Bungle Posted by: Ornot | Jul 29 2024 20:21 utc | 146 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 29 2024 15:21 utc | 130 Posted by: badjoke | Jul 29 2024 20:25 utc | 147 Israel at the brink of civil war: Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 29 2024 20:26 utc | 148 Terri 119 – Why is anyone with any knowledge of the genocide now underway in Gaza and West Bank surprised by the destruction yesterday of the Canada Well, the main source of fresh water in Rafah, by the war criminals of the 601st IDF Combat Engineers. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jul 29 2024 20:36 utc | 149
Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 29 2024 15:11 utc | 129 Posted by: joey_n | Jul 29 2024 20:40 utc | 150 these guys have been at war for months now. It’s been clearing the coast for supplies(Gaza) while it softens the north. The west needs a landing zone and Israel needs the promised land Posted by: OohCanada | Jul 29 2024 20:41 utc | 151 If the IDF actually decides on a major push into Southern Lebanon, and over runs the Irish UN Peacekeeping Mission troops there will be international heck to pay…… Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jul 29 2024 20:49 utc | 152 @152 They fly the line often and what do we hear of that ? The talk is of clearing a buffer zone, which could simply imply targeting anything that moves in that zone. The occupation advantage is by air. The reaction by Hezbollah might be to storm the border. So it is all asymetric, for example unacceptable targeting by occupation now might lead to escalation and the above scenario. Posted by: Ornot | Jul 29 2024 21:16 utc | 153 Has Israel backed down….again? Talks now of a limited strike against Hezbollah. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 29 2024 21:24 utc | 154 Izrael, a non-member of NATO, ***demands*** from the USA & the other NATO members to expel Turkey from the organization after the recent statement of the Turkish Foreign Ministry comparing Netanyahu to Hitler and arguing that as Nazis stood trial, so Israelis must face trial for the genocide of the Palestinian people. Posted by: Memory Man | Jul 29 2024 21:28 utc | 155 Even more amazing is that it doesn’t show Trump bent over in front of Bibi. Not that that means much. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 29 2024 21:30 utc | 156 As it is illegal occupatation by Isr.-Gaza west bank and Golan etc–….no idea why the relief agencies are not sueing for reparations for absolutely everything they have done over the decades and suffered …..and will have to do…otherwise Isr is saying more fool us to have kept Palestine going and possible reconstruction? …. Posted by: Jo | Jul 29 2024 21:32 utc | 157 Not sure if posted. Posted by: Joe | Jul 29 2024 21:40 utc | 158 @ Joe | Jul 29 2024 21:40 utc | 158 Posted by: Memory Man | Jul 29 2024 21:54 utc | 159 Order of events in “Beit Lid”: Posted by: Ornot | Jul 29 2024 22:15 utc | 160 Israeli military police *canceled* the arrest warrants issued against the soldiers accused of gang-raping a Palestinian detainee at the notorious Sde Teiman prison and limited themselves to interrogating them, Israel’s Channel 14 reported on 29 July. Posted by: Memory Man | Jul 29 2024 22:21 utc | 161 Polio epidemic declared in Gaza in latest sign of worsening health crisis Posted by: teri | Jul 29 2024 22:23 utc | 162 stay calm Posted by: michaelj72 | Jul 29 2024 22:26 utc | 163 these guys have been at war for months now. It’s been clearing the coast for supplies(Gaza) while it softens the north. The west needs a landing zone and Israel needs the promised land Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 29 2024 22:27 utc | 164 I refuse to believe that they are that stupid. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 29 2024 22:34 utc | 165 How many others? Anyone know? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 29 2024 22:37 utc | 166 michaelj72 | Jul 29 2024 22:26 utc | 163 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 22:51 utc | 167 An isreal has as much right to exist, as a Palestine. Just not in its current form, it just needs to play well w others is all. Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 29 2024 23:09 utc | 168 Vacations are over for Crook and Napolitano, so Mondays are back showcasing Crooke’s SCF essay and his chat with the judge. And that means a new article is ready to be read, “Crooke: Deep State a “Structure””. Certainly, other questions could be made besides those I raised. “The self-described Zionist Joe Biden couldn’t be more supportive of Israel and its agendas unless he was actually physically in Gaza personally shooting medical workers with a sniper rifle.” Posted by: eman | Jul 29 2024 23:14 utc | 170 Archetypex | Jul 29 2024 23:09 utc | 168– eman | Jul 29 2024 23:14 utc | 170– Israel DOES NOT have a right to exist, Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:20 utc | 173 Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 29 2024 23:17 utc | 172 Posted by: eman | Jul 29 2024 23:23 utc | 174 Sorry, but the land was supposed to be shared from the outset. Nobody was to be deprived of rights or property. But the Zionists had a different plan/project which the vast majority of the world rejects. Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:33 utc | 175 Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 29 2024 23:15 utc | 171 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 29 2024 23:33 utc | 176 karlof1 | Jul 29 2024 23:12 utc | 169 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 23:39 utc | 177 Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:33 utc | 175– Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 23:41 utc | 178– It was “enforced” by force of the British in Mandatory Palestine. Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:52 utc | 181 I don’t like the Zionists whatsoever, but the historical docs are what they are. Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:55 utc | 182 Someone here recommended a really good book that documented the empire’s crimes. Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 30 2024 0:05 utc | 183 Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:20 utc | 173 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 30 2024 0:17 utc | 184 Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:52 utc | 181 Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 30 2024 0:49 utc | 185 Posted by: Jane | Jul 29 2024 23:52 utc | 181
Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 30 2024 0:54 utc | 186 Sorry, but the land was supposed to be shared from the outset. Nobody was to be deprived of rights or property. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 30 2024 1:01 utc | 187 The brits released all their former colonies to the people there. Posted by: Fred | Jul 30 2024 1:06 utc | 188 I am with Jane on this. Posted by: Ornot | Jul 30 2024 1:08 utc | 189 8. Palestinian Nationality and “Jewish” Nationality: From the Lausanne Treaty to Today Posted by: Fred | Jul 30 2024 1:16 utc | 190 Legacy of Violence by Caroline Elkins Posted by: Jane | Jul 30 2024 1:42 utc | 191 Badjoke@2025 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 30 2024 1:44 utc | 192 Irrelevant maybe but I say it all the same. In the 80’s my view was that if there was any possibility of keeping a homeland, it would have been by a major shift of conscience and by voluntarily returning say three quarters of the territory in return for keeping a northern enclave. Arabs would have understood the humility of such an act and out of grace allowed that, and agreeing on a lasting peace. That was what I felt was necessary. Posted by: Ornot | Jul 30 2024 1:47 utc | 193 joey_n @2040 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 30 2024 1:50 utc | 194 Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 29 2024 23:12 utc | 169 Posted by: juliania | Jul 30 2024 2:04 utc | 195 “The truth is very clear and straight forward. Palestine was not ever a Colony of the United Kingdom.” Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 30 2024 2:19 utc | 196 Get Out Ye Black and Tans · Derek Warfield Posted by: Jane | Jul 30 2024 2:19 utc | 197 The brits conquered it and were there before any mandate being issued. Posted by: Jane | Jul 30 2024 2:26 utc | 198 Posted by: Jane | Jul 30 2024 2:19 utc | 197 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 30 2024 2:39 utc | 199 My apologies; I did not realize my post above was occurring on the Palestine thread, where it would seem to be off topic, even though the catalyst is Netanyahu’s speech in Congress. I will address further comments as I have them to the Open, not Palestine and not Ukraine thread, referencing in more detail karlof1’s post at #169 for context. I hope we can discuss our opinions there without monopolizing the thread, as it would not perhaps be of interest to everyone. My caveat on that is my feeling that the construction of the US Constitution does bear favorably upon the current world movement in the direction of multipolarity. Posted by: juliania | Jul 30 2024 2:46 utc | 200 |
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