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July 31, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-180
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Re the Trump shooting – something different. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 14:26 utc | 201 Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 2 2024 12:55 utc | 189 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 14:36 utc | 202 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 14:05 utc | 199 Posted by: Honzo | Aug 2 2024 14:45 utc | 203 where’s bevin? Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 14:51 utc | 204 Some organization just took the global price of gold down by $30-40/oz Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2024 14:52 utc | 205 Seventeen hours after greeting the returning hostages at the airport, Putin met with his Security Council, where the readout gives us scant details barely enough for speculation:
“The most relevant events of recent times” occurred in West Asia; so, given the speakers, the Palestinian and the immanent Zionist-Iranian confrontation were the topics. Peter Au1 Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 2 2024 15:04 utc | 207 psychohistorian | Aug 2 2024 14:52 utc | 205 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 15:06 utc | 208 canuck@141 Not sure how this is arguing with me about why mystery cults, pagan religion generally disappeared. But it’s true that Mithraism was in particularly an army cult, apparently led by career officers mainly (not certain of that.) But when the Roman armies disappeared in the west, then the army’s favorite religion disappeared with them. In the eastern empire, the destruction of the Mithraeums and preferential promotion of Christians took its toll. Incidentally, the costs of animal sacrifice (bulls for Mithraists) seemed to me to play a major role in the decline of pagan religions centered on temples. The meat from sacrificial animals was apparently sold at low(er) prices, turning the ritual into a something of a charitable redistribution. That’s why Paul was so careful to say that his Christians could eat that meat (unless it caused too much hard feeling with others in the congregation.) Julian the Apostate tried to revive paganism and one of his tactics seemed to have been a massive increase in sacrifices, aimed so far as I can tell to give a material interest to pagan rites. The extravagance of this extra cost to the budget was perhaps an issue in the resentments against him? Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 2 2024 15:24 utc | 209 A comment that wasn’t acceptable to Michael Roberts’ post about the recent Fed decision not to cut the Fed funds rate follows: Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 2 2024 15:27 utc | 210 where’s bevin? Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2024 15:37 utc | 211 The judge Lady Emma Arbuthnot who Jailed Craig Murray for 6 months for reporting the proceedings at some minor trial, about Scottish Politics..”You are not allowed to disobey me” Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 15:43 utc | 212 Some organization just took the global price of gold down by $30-40/oz Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 15:43 utc | 213 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 7:35 utc | 178
https://tinyurl.com/mudk99jd Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 15:56 utc | 214 Very possible bevin has issues with family or finances or health (including God forbid death.) Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 2 2024 15:58 utc | 215 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 14:26 utc | 201 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 16:06 utc | 216 Zero Hedge reporting U.S. Unemployment report just posted and it’s another miss, looks like America is officially in a recession. Posted by: Ezzie | Aug 2 2024 16:32 utc | 217 Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 15:56 utc | 214 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 16:36 utc | 218 Where you are at the time, and the conditions at the time, obviously make an enormous difference, re what you do next, if you are lucky enough to nearly have a girlfriend. Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 17:12 utc | 219 I put it down, cos she never learnt to drive a car…wtf do I need a car living here in London…she is OK on a bike..why did you buy me a bike cos the doctor said when I was 40 – he said..he said your blood pressure is a bit high.. I am not suggesting you take any drugs.. Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 17:54 utc | 220 She has changed her dress, and I asked wtf are you doing…cutting up Raw Carrots for a Gig… There’s nowt of you – you are slim and fit… Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 18:26 utc | 221 I am not the racist one here..She was a totally normal Manchester Girl…we were working together on shifts in West Gorton Manchester, at ICL across the Road from West Gorton’s Working Men Club…We never did anything wrong, except I would buy her a shandy..We used to exchange records – I would lend her Led Zep, and she would lend me Neil Young…We were young..we liked each other..Then she was gone. Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 18:59 utc | 222 Nur der übliche Qualitätsjournalismus im US-Dominion, FAZ 2.8. 20:15: Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 2 2024 19:22 utc | 223 Whilst I accept everyone is at least a little bit tribal, and I have real world photograhic evidence of this from all over world, come underwater and diving with my blond wife and kids in the Indian Ocean and The Red Sea – and The Caribbean…She lets go to Cuba – I said Yeh, but I do not want us to land in the USA OK? Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 19:35 utc | 224 Barkeep, I think it’s time to call a taxi for the guy muttering in the corner over there. He’s in no condition to drive home. Posted by: malenkov | Aug 2 2024 19:45 utc | 225 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2024 15:37 utc | 211 Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 2 2024 20:21 utc | 226 ” We have an interesting alignment between Uranus, Lilith and Algol. Uranus is conjunct the ‘demon star’ Algol and opposite asteroid Lilith- straddling the Taurus/Scorpio axis of form and transformation, what we hold onto and what we let go of. Algol is the eye of Medusa and her story is also a mythic re-write. Previously she was a powerful goddess in her own right but her story was rewritten and she was raped by Poseidon, punished by Athena, turned into a gorgon with snakes for hair and killed by Perseus. It is amazing the atrocities that the Greeks and Romans wrote into their myths. Disgusting and toxic- and more telling about what was going on in their minds and hearts than anything else!!! With Uranus conjunct Algol and opposite asteroid Lilith- I feel the radical awakening of the repressed Dark Divine Feminine rumbling like a volcano ready to explode.” Posted by: swiss | Aug 2 2024 20:27 utc | 227 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 7:35 utc | 178
Canuck is. correct. I live near one of the upscale retirement communities that had residence’s dying from the mysterious disease during late June and early July 2019. Greenspring retirement community is roughly forty miles from Ft. Dietrich, but there were other lower scale retirement communities nearer the base, that weren’t immediately reported, likely because they weren’t upscale communities like the ones in northern Virginia. The e-cigs were a coverup in the fall of 2019, simply because China hadn’t yet been infected, which wasn’t going to occur until November 2019, when military games similar to the Olympics, but with only military personnel from various countries. The 2019 games were held in Wuhan, China. The american military trained a portion of their athletes at Ft. Dietrich during August and September 2019, after the Maryland health department (permanently) closed the Ft. Dietrich lab, after pathogens were discovered escaping from the lab’s sewage system. Permanently, because of all the violations they’d had for decades, however the army quietly reopened the lab in the spring of 2020. Also, the visiting american athletes stayed in a hotel across the street from the wet market where Chinese authorities found their first case. The american athletes also needed to leave early, because of illness, so not hard to figure out how the military infected the world. Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 20:37 utc | 228 aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 20:37 utc | 228 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 20:51 utc | 229 Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2024 15:37 utc | 211 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:01 utc | 230 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 20:51 utc | 229 Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 21:03 utc | 231 Stock market going down, gold going up. $3800 or so Australian at the moment. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:07 utc | 232 aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 21:03 utc | 231 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:16 utc | 233 @ Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:07 utc | 232 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 2 2024 21:32 utc | 234 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:16 utc | 233
I’ve had the disease twice now and it takes time to incubate. My latest bout took nearly six days to know I was sick. Had even taken a few doses of a Chinese herb meant to suppress a cold, but if taken early enough can stop a cold infection in its tracks and never get started. However, with this latest COVID strain those herbs were overwhelmed and I knew I needed to start taking ivermectin and HCQ, that I’d bought from India, which weren’t any good. I’m blessed though having a sister who’s a MD and she prescribed the HCQ. She could have prescribed the ivermectin too, in my state, but a single dose for someone at my weight cost nearly a hundred dollars for a drug that costs pennies to make. Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 21:46 utc | 235 aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 21:46 utc | 235 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:51 utc | 236 malenkov | Aug 2 2024 21:32 utc | 234 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:53 utc | 237 Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 9:33 utc Posted by: spudski | Aug 2 2024 23:40 utc | 238 For those doubting Lula position on Venezuela Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 1:30 utc | 239 Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 15:56 utc | 214
‘ Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 3:56 utc | 240 I want a word/phrase in english or a richer language that describes the rehabilitation efforts I am making after my full shoulder replacement. I am talking here of doing exercises that cause significant pain but are necessary to regain range of motion. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 3 2024 5:02 utc | 241 @ Fred | Aug 3 2024 5:26 utc | 242 with the suggestion…thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 3 2024 5:36 utc | 243 they’d be telling us who shorted the gold price. Posted by: too scents | Aug 3 2024 5:56 utc | 244 I want a word/phrase in english or a richer language that describes the rehabilitation efforts I am making after my full shoulder replacement. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 6:00 utc | 245 Trump shooting updated info by jeffo stroff Posted by: Fred | Aug 3 2024 6:56 utc | 246 I am ignorant of an english word describing such activity but it seems such should exist and I expect/appreciate education from fellow barflies….thanks. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 9:11 utc | 247 Larry Johnson published a video/podcast with Andrei Martyanov: Posted by: WMG | Aug 3 2024 9:46 utc | 248 @ 241 /247 Posted by: swiss | Aug 3 2024 9:51 utc | 249 Interesting factoid Posted by: Fred | Aug 3 2024 10:44 utc | 250 Top Shelf Youth at the Olympics – sometimes it is just too easy to look good and on the right side of history
Posted by: Fred | Aug 3 2024 11:06 utc | 251 @ Fred | Aug 3 2024 11:06 utc | 251 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 3 2024 12:56 utc | 252 Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 3 2024 5:36 utc | 243 malenkov@252….I blame the athletes. We all have a moral compass and the athletes have thrown their’s away. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 13:46 utc | 254 Scattered covid comments: Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 13:46 utc | 254 @ psychohistorian | Aug 3 2024 5:02 utc | 241 Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 3 2024 14:22 utc | 257 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 3 2024 14:29 utc | 258 Posted by: Fred | Aug 3 2024 6:56 utc | 246 Posted by: mk | Aug 3 2024 14:34 utc | 259 @ Scorpion | Aug 3 2024 14:13 utc | 256 Posted by: Featherless | Aug 3 2024 14:37 utc | 260 Okay, so I am flabbergasted. Three dead girls…….and a Union Jack flies alongside the Tricolour. Amazing what causes unite people, regardless of one’s personal views. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 14:58 utc | 261 A lot of real serious stuff happening right now – everyone waiting for Iran to strike and nuclear war threatens again, but there’s still a way out – might not last long though: https://folkpotpourri.com/the-final-day-when-paupers-become-kings/ Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Aug 3 2024 15:07 utc | 262 I was reading that there are literally hundreds of the US athletes that the corrupt WADA has agreed have some kind of medical condition (e.g. ADHD) that requires them to take stimulants! So as usual, the US just makes cheating “legal”. No Chinese athlete has claimed such a waiver, and very few Russians who have a much higher reject rate from WADA (what a surprise!). Anti immigration protests in Belfast, someone stabbed three girls to death….never seen a Union Jack fly along side the Tri Colour, today I did……it really is a strange time indeed. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 15:10 utc | 264 @sean : sounds like Pandemonium, or a Royal Rumble Posted by: Featherless | Aug 3 2024 15:14 utc | 266 sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 15:10 utc | 263 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 3 2024 16:26 utc | 267 As said before, China had the honor hosting the world’s first and only genocide Olympics in 2008. Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 16:56 utc | 268 Eagerly awaiting Harris/Trump debate. Posted by: JAB | Aug 3 2024 17:01 utc | 269 Prime Minister Viktor Orbán gives a lecture to students at the 33rd Bálványos Summer Free University and Student Camp, about 11,000 words, well worth the time imv.
Posted by: suzan | Aug 3 2024 17:20 utc | 270 Reportedly, Hungarians are descendants of the Xiongnu tribes , who harassed and fought the Han for centuries until they were crushed by Han Wu Di and subsequently moved to Europe. Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 17:35 utc | 271 @ mk | Aug 3 2024 14:34 utc | 259 Posted by: suzan | Aug 3 2024 17:38 utc | 272 @suzan Posted by: mk | Aug 3 2024 17:46 utc | 273 Tea leaves on the bottom of the dessicated veepstakes cup clearly spell “Shapiro” in the eyes of all expert leaf-readers. There’s hardly any question; they’re killing all the suspense.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gov-josh-shapiro-ahead-in-kamala-harris-veepstakes-with-pennsylvania-being-the-whole-ballgame Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2024 18:00 utc | 274 Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 16:56 utc | 268 Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 18:05 utc | 275
She’s not a hermaphrodite. She’s a woman, born as a woman with woman genitalia. She has all the rights to compete in women sports. Calling for her to be deprived of this is not only sexist, it’s also bloody racist. These sort of “doubts” always come from an old white male and target an African female athlete because she doesn’t fit into his own so-called “superior” women’s beauty standards i.e white, in her 20’s and thin. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Aug 3 2024 18:16 utc | 276 No wonder why so many high quality commentators left MoA : it’s just becoming a nursing home version of 4chan. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2024 18:24 utc | 277 [five liars] , always at the right side of history
What bloody crock !
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. Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 18:35 utc | 278 Kamala, Kamala, Kameleon … she attempts to be anything she needs to be to get support and money from people. Reminds me of a Boy George/Culture Club song… A curious business all round. Just about a month after a landslide election victory by a party that purports to represent the working classes, those very same working classes are busy setting their own inner cites on fire. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 3 2024 21:55 utc | 280 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 4:21 utc | 166 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 3 2024 22:59 utc | 281 That’s because Germans have no idea how to make a proper Schnitzel, let alone Americans who cook in German restaurants. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 3 2024 23:10 utc | 282 Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2024 18:35 utc | 278
This is your addition which pretended to quote me (something you regularly do on this board):
I do wish you would stop providing false quotations along with your gratuitously childish insults which have absolutely nothing to do with the ongoing discussion and thus serve only to lower the tone of the bar for all. @ Wisco | Aug 3 2024 23:10 utc | 282 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 3 2024 23:25 utc | 284 Well, de gustibus and all that, but it sounds like “Aussie schnitzel” is chicken-fried steak, not real Schnitzel. Without going into detail, here are the main differences in making a real Schnitzel…. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 0:03 utc | 285 @ Wisco | Aug 4 2024 0:03 utc | 285 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 0:36 utc | 286 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 0:36 utc | 286 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:00 utc | 287 Wisco | Aug 4 2024 0:03 utc | 285 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 1:16 utc | 288 Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:00 utc | 287 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 1:25 utc | 289 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 1:16 utc | 288 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:28 utc | 290 One thing that REALLY stood out for me on that trip to southern NSW was the vastness of the beaches, literally miles and miles with no other tourists, and I drove my rental car right onto the beach with no fear at all of cops fucking with me. On a sunny day. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:37 utc | 291 Oz has such a low population density that even NSW, the most populated state with the biggest population, still has miles and miles of beautiful beaches without crowds. Bondi is much better for watching people, of course, but those south NSW beaches are amazing if one likes soltitude. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:45 utc | 292 New South Wales has a population of about 9 million. California has a population of about 40 million. NSW has an area of about 300,000 square miles. California has an area of about 164,000 square miles. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:57 utc | 293 Wisco | Aug 4 2024 1:45 utc | 292 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 2:09 utc | 294 Anyway, Morro Bay in central California is amazing and here is the place to eat if you like unpretentious fish-and-chips and a fun atmosphere and a great view…. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 2:18 utc | 295 I am going to go against my desire to limit (s)election talk but just need to note that Harris has/is doing a trial balloon of Josh Shapiro as VP choice. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 4 2024 2:47 utc | 297 It has been about a week since karlof1 kindly gave us a link to a visit President Putin had made to Valaam Monastery with photographs of the monastery location, the small military chapel in which the icons depicted soldier saints. I see on my calendar that tomorrow will be his name day – that of Prince Vladimir, who baptized all of Russia ‘in a princely manner’ over a millenium ago. Posted by: juliania | Aug 4 2024 2:48 utc | 298 “Harris husband is jewish Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 3:00 utc | 299 I’d rather have Jewish people like Max Blunenthal or Jeffrey Sachs as candidates rather than the usual suck-ups. Not Bernie though, he gave it away last time. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 4 2024 3:10 utc | 300 |
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