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July 31, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-180
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One thing leads to another. ACDC and ‘It’s a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll’ was very much my song when I was flying. A lot died and for whatever reason, I was doomed to live. Many flew staidly about like pregnant ducts, but still they died. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 11:01 utc | 101 @ Posted by: Honzo | Jul 31 2024 23:09 utc | 61 Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 1 2024 11:03 utc | 102 anon2020 | Aug 1 2024 10:53 utc | 100 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 11:08 utc | 103 @ PeterAU Posted by: despondent | Aug 1 2024 11:09 utc | 104 @ Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 1 2024 5:04 utc | 87 Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 1 2024 11:09 utc | 105 DunGroanin | Aug 1 2024 11:03 utc | 102 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 11:10 utc | 106 Peter, I loved Hendrix from the time I first heard him on the Woodstock Album in 1970. I was a 15 yo listening to The Devil’s music, according to my old man. Posted by: Menz | Aug 1 2024 11:44 utc | 107 “Imperial Japan at its height could not defeat China at its nadir, under Chiang Kai-shek and the warlords. The USA can’t defeat small countries like Vietnam. I really doubt they can defeat China in the 21st century.” Nah – this bar ain’t big enough for Fake Left/Right pseudo science/religious Narrative purveyors selling their old and new Zio created poisonous snake oils. Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 1 2024 12:36 utc | 109 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 1 2024 10:53 utc | 100 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 1 2024 13:10 utc | 110
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/26696 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 1 2024 13:44 utc | 111 🚨🇩🇪🤯 German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock allegedly implicated in sex tourism scandal with an African escort, using public funds! Posted by: Newbie | Aug 1 2024 13:53 utc | 112 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 1 2024 13:44 utc | 111 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Aug 1 2024 14:07 utc | 113 from Army Times
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 1 2024 14:12 utc | 114 @Jane Posted by: Ornot | Aug 1 2024 14:24 utc | 115 Anyone know what (US) State Department Dash 8 aircraft are used for? Posted by: billb | Aug 1 2024 14:28 utc | 116 re: ADIZ Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 1 2024 14:40 utc | 117 re: Trump on war
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 1 2024 14:49 utc | 118 @ DunGroanin | Jul 31 2024 22:26 utc | 56 Posted by: james | Aug 1 2024 14:53 utc | 119 A thaw in India-China relations will benefit BRICS and aggrevate US: Posted by: Ham | Aug 1 2024 14:55 utc | 120 ” over 1.200 tonnes of german gold still lies in New York ” “Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 31 2024 16:25 utc | 13
That’s by far the best one-line description of what living in Halifax, Nova Scotia felt like as have ever read. Menz | Aug 1 2024 9:07 utc | 97 “PS can you confirm you are not the sock puppet bevin? Honzo: Thank you for the replies. Overall, it seems to me there is the fundamental notion of institutional continuity as somehow a property of faceless bureaucrats, regardless of who’s hiring the top administrators. The continuity is not so much in the middle managers of the CIA, for instance, especially those who live on their paychecks, as in the many institutions controlled ultimately by money. The Dulles CIA may have started the anti-Communist Russian studies institutions, for instance, but those have continued, funded also by wealthy donors. The notorious revolving door of academics, lawyers, businessmen and political appointees have been molded by those apparently outside interests. Things like the Council on Foreign Relations or the Foreign Policy Association, less well known groups like the Truman Project or Robert Farley’s outfit at UK or the Navy League, all are part of the true institutional continuity. The role in foreign policy of ostensible business groups like McKinsey or Carlyle Group are overlooked all too often I think. The ability of middle managers to resist “mere” political appointees reflects their ties to money men and their political, is a product of those ties. They are not parasites on the public payroll in the sense their expropriation of tax dollars gives them power. In the US, no one who thought patronage could substitute for a broad base of support in those wider institutions (once called “civil society) has ever been successful. Not Andrew Jackson, not Van Buren, not Tyler, not Fillmore. And that was when there was a lot less money to fight. Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 1 2024 17:43 utc | 126 There was recently some exchange of comments on whether all government statements are fictional, including even government economic statistics. The claim they are no more reliable than the DoD figures on Russian casualties was and is a huge claim. In my opinion, the defenses of this extravagance were not effective. Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 1 2024 17:48 utc | 127 “Honzo: Thank you for the replies. Overall, it seems to me there is the fundamental notion of institutional continuity as somehow a property of faceless bureaucrats, regardless of who’s hiring the top administrators. The continuity is not so much in the middle managers of the CIA, for instance, especially those who live on their paychecks, as in the many institutions controlled ultimately by money. The Dulles CIA may have started the anti-Communist Russian studies institutions, for instance, but those have continued, funded also by wealthy donors. The notorious revolving door of academics, lawyers, businessmen and political appointees have been molded by those apparently outside interests. Things like the Council on Foreign Relations or the Foreign Policy Association, less well known groups like the Truman Project or Robert Farley’s outfit at UK or the Navy League, all are part of the true institutional continuity. The role in foreign policy of ostensible business groups like McKinsey or Carlyle Group are overlooked all too often I think. The ability of middle managers to resist “mere” political appointees reflects their ties to money men and their political, is a product of those ties. They are not parasites on the public payroll in the sense their expropriation of tax dollars gives them power. In the US, no one who thought patronage could substitute for a broad base of support in those wider institutions (once called “civil society) has ever been successful. Not Andrew Jackson, not Van Buren, not Tyler, not Fillmore. And that was when there was a lot less money to fight.” billb@116….small regional passenger jets, I think made by Bombardier. I’m flying on one, Dash 8, next week. Vancouver to Comox, short trip jets. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 1 2024 18:25 utc | 129 Honzo @ 50 Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 1 2024 19:17 utc | 131 @ sean the leprechaun | Aug 1 2024 18:25 utc | 129 Posted by: james | Aug 1 2024 19:50 utc | 132 All your presumptions (and please, you are making some grand leaps here, not working “just the facts”) work just as well if the entire charade is played out without using any real bullets. Since the play’s the thing, why risk using real bullets? Someone might get hurt. Posted by: Honzo | Aug 1 2024 20:04 utc | 133 Posted by: Q-lander | Jul 31 2024 23:31 utc | 65 Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 1 2024 20:04 utc | 134 Patroklos | Aug 1 2024 20:04 utc | 134 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 20:26 utc | 135 #121 cannuck
Yes, that was the insinuation when I stated that german experts were denied access to the vault. About the 300 tonnes, I read somewhere that reminting is standard practice. I’m no expert so I wont judge the validity of this. Posted by: Ham | Aug 1 2024 20:28 utc | 136 Overall, it seems to me … Posted by: Honzo | Aug 1 2024 20:44 utc | 137 Posted by: Q-lander | Jul 31 2024 23:31 utc | 65 Posted by: Ново З | Aug 1 2024 20:59 utc | 138 Honzo@137 Thanks again for clarification. The seemingly sudden disappearance of the Mystery Cults or Mithraism had a great deal to do with the expropriation and closure of temples (which by the way some of which were banks and/or government archives) by the emperors after Constantine, with Theodosius striking the final blows if I remember correctly. Culture to me is a way of life, not just a disembodied set of ideas—it is horribly difficult to communicate our personal ideas to others. It requires a material basis, all the more when facing opponents armed with legal privileges and tax support and state power to repress public expression of any sort. You can’t have higher level initiates when you can’t recruit neophytes. But I may be prejudiced, my brother-in-law is a Shriner while my son is inactive. Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 1 2024 21:03 utc | 139 Per capita losses WWI Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 21:08 utc | 140 “Honzo@137 Thanks again for clarification. The seemingly sudden disappearance of the Mystery Cults or Mithraism had a great deal to do with the expropriation and closure of temples (which by the way some of which were banks and/or government archives) by the emperors after Constantine, with Theodosius striking the final blows if I remember correctly. Culture to me is a way of life, not just a disembodied set of ideas—it is horribly difficult to communicate our personal ideas to others. It requires a material basis, all the more when facing opponents armed with legal privileges and tax support and state power to repress public expression of any sort. You can’t have higher level initiates when you can’t recruit neophytes. But I may be prejudiced, my brother-in-law is a Shriner while my son is inactive.” #121 cannuck @ canuck | Aug 1 2024 21:15 utc | 141 Posted by: despondent | Aug 1 2024 21:31 utc | 143 “Posted by: Q-lander | Jul 31 2024 23:31 utc | 65 Maduro has made what I read as a warning that violence maybe used against reactionary players. About time. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 1 2024 21:38 utc | 145 Suresh | Aug 1 2024 21:38 utc | 145 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 21:47 utc | 146 Apart from that Hobo3, take your petty hatreds and shove em. Posted by: Ново З | Aug 1 2024 22:22 utc | 147 Ново З | Aug 1 2024 22:22 utc | 147 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 22:31 utc | 148 Ново З Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 23:14 utc | 149 From what I can make out, in WWI days and I think WWII, Canadians and Australians were pretty much the same. Canada though having a larger population base. Different from the Brits. The Americans were different again. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 23:43 utc | 150 Posted by: Ново З | Aug 1 2024 20:59 utc | 138 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 1 2024 23:56 utc | 151 Correction: Serbia lost over 100 times more per capita than USA, but only 6-20 times more than Aus or UK or Canada. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 0:04 utc | 152 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 1 2024 23:43 utc | 150
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 0:28 utc | 153 For anyone interested, here is an article about the anti-German propaganda in the lead-up to USA entrance into WWI. Keep in mind this was all happening about 80-90 years prior to the advent of the internet. And about 30 years prior to the dominance of television… Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 1:12 utc | 154 “Those little towns along the Townsville to Mount Isa line, the Flinders highway, small towns like Julia Creek and Richmond. I was in that area from about 17 till jut before I turned 21.” Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 1:51 utc | 155 Wisco Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 2:31 utc | 156 “@ canuck | Aug 1 2024 21:15 utc | 141 Wisco | Aug 2 2024 1:51 utc | 155 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 3:05 utc | 158 lex talionis | Aug 1 2024 3:52 utc | 86 Posted by: fanto | Aug 2 2024 3:08 utc | 159 “Might have been Anzac day…” Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 3:17 utc | 160 Wisco | Aug 2 2024 3:17 utc | 160 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 3:37 utc | 161 Chinese swimmers were subject to five times more dope test than gringo/Aussie, snubbed by Anglophone counterparts. Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 3:41 utc | 162 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 3:37 utc | 161 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 3:54 utc | 163 I’ve heard that Aussies affectionately (or not) call schnitzel “shnitty”. Lol. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 4:10 utc | 164 ‘Chinese swimmers were subject to five times more dope test than gringo/Aussie, snubbed by Anglophone counterparts.” Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 4:16 utc | 165 Wisco | Aug 2 2024 3:54 utc | 163 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 4:21 utc | 166 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 4:16 utc | 165
Sore losers all. Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 4:33 utc | 167 b wrote about this some years back when Biden crew brought in the ‘diversity’ rubbish to sports. I think b wrote at the time that it effectively ended women’s sports. This Olympics? the French debauchery, two males competing – competing is the wrong word for it – in women’s boxing. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 4:38 utc | 168 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 4:21 utc | 166 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 4:39 utc | 169 Pelham Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2024 4:45 utc | 170 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 4:38 utc | 168 Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 4:48 utc | 171 @ Menz | Aug 2 2024 4:45 utc | 170 with the gold raping of Argentina….sigh Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2024 5:02 utc | 172 INdian decoupling from China fails big time, Industries badly hit by rejection of Chinese engineers and supply chains. Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 5:22 utc | 173 Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2024 5:02 utc | 172
You harp on this quite a bit ph, but imho only frankie’s outfit’s been around long enough to have some clout? However, I’d suggest you should give Honzo’s reply, at #76, to Stephen T. Johnson at #69 a peruse. I believe his “Invisibles” are a better description of the folks you wonder about. Your last line Is quite likely very descriptive of them. Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 5:39 utc | 174 Who is behind this COVID madness? I accept the risk of triggering your “conspiracy theory” buttons by identifying the widely recognized “Global MIC -medical-petrochemical-pharmaceutical-BIG OIL-BIG AGRI cartel” as the only suspect that can wield the powers necessary to effect these frightening outcomes. Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2024 6:08 utc | 175 @ aye, myself & me | Aug 2 2024 5:39 utc | 174 with the suggestion about names of the cult that rules the Western empire. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2024 6:11 utc | 176 The US electoral system is such, that once president, it does not matter whether there was electoral fraud or not. Posted by: Passerby | Aug 2 2024 6:52 utc | 177 denk | Aug 2 2024 6:08 utc | 175 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 7:35 utc | 178 “As Pfizer terms it – Directed evolution. Same as a gardener developing a new variety of plant or a farmer developing a new breed of livestock.” “Is this the same Rothschild & Co that bevin said was nothing anymore? Germany joined the United Nations Command. Other than it might sound, this is not a UN mission, though. While the SU was boycotting the UNSC over the Taiwan question, the US pushed through a resolution that allows their coalition of the willing against North Korea – under US command, of course – to carry the UN flag (resolution 84). Posted by: gynt | Aug 2 2024 10:18 utc | 181 The edge of the abyss gets closer in the U.K. as the so far unexplained attack in Southport ( a curious target mainly with a ‘scouser’ community, a long standing actual working class area of the North West, traditional Labour voting except for a few turncoats who tried to wreck that years ago. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 2 2024 11:21 utc | 182 Republicans against Trump Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2024 11:45 utc | 183 Another thing I do remember from the Canberra hotel is the amazing schnitzel. Nobody even knows anymore what “schnitzel” is supposed to mean in the USA now. But I sure enjoyed it in my time in Aus. Posted by: malenkov | Aug 2 2024 12:30 utc | 184 I’ll be taking this post in an unusual direction for MOA Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 12:38 utc | 185 Pre-market order matching system just puked up a CRWD hairball. Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 12:40 utc | 186 Intel is down 25% pre-market. Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 12:43 utc | 187 Where the jobs gone ??? ==> https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/non-farm-payrolls Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 12:54 utc | 188 Olympic humanity. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 2 2024 12:55 utc | 189 Intel is down 25% pre-market. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 12:58 utc | 190 That Woman was beaten by a Irish Woman last Olympics Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 12:59 utc | 191
Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 13:02 utc | 192 Scary… Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 13:14 utc | 193 Not really … Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 13:18 utc | 194 Gold is loving it. Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 13:41 utc | 195 Not really … Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 13:44 utc | 196 they’ll catch it above 10.000 Posted by: too scents | Aug 2 2024 13:51 utc | 197 Gold is loving it. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 13:53 utc | 198 I was convinced it was real, not faked…but someone much cleverer than me, briefly displayed this party trick on open sale. It contains, a fake blood pouch, that you hide behind your ear. You slap your ear in open view, as if stung by a wasp, and there is the blood around your ear, dripping down your face… Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 2 2024 14:05 utc | 199 canuck | Aug 2 2024 9:33 utc | 179 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 14:15 utc | 200 |
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