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July 24, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-174

News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …

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@ Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 15:33 utc | 778
Thanks for the link to karlof1’s piece, very interesting.
@ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 15:33 utc | 779
Bound to be.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 28 2024 16:55 utc | 801

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 12:46 utc | 729

… which is not a proof at all…
The performance you’re mentioning is absolutely not about any “gay fornication”, but about the act of abortion… you smarty-pants Hauser…

Lol! You are not the brightest of your bunch eh? The Reuter’s piece has this quote:

“I just saw a video of how they put the Chilean flag in a certain part (of the body) at an Approve event in Valparaiso,” tweeted Senator Matias Walker, an opponent of the draft constitution.

Do you need more explanations? It was the ass and the performer was a trans fag. The artistic idea of these degenerates was that the nation of Chile was being aborted from the ass of a transvestite, yeah, those are artistic representations that you approve of.
There are more links but they are in Spanish. This is one:
https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nacional/region-de-valparaiso/2022/08/28/performance-sexual-con-bandera-chilena-en-actividad-de-apruebo-transformar-causa-rechazo-transversal.shtml
The title of the article translated to English is “Widespread condemnation after sexual performance with Chilean flag in act of Apruebo Transformar”.
From the previous Reuter’s piece:

Government spokesperson Camila Vallejo[Footnote 1] said that both the ombudsman and the government undersecretary for children had filed lawsuits with the public prosecutor’s office, and that other types of measures would be evaluated.

Footnote 1. Camila Vallejo is a very sexy commie chick, check her out in wikipedia, she is a member of the Chilean Communist Party and she is gorgeous, but you’re not into women, right? But check her out, it may cure you of something.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:01 utc | 802

And a moral degenerate and mental defective is promptly heard from. It is of course the Trump worshippers who support imperialism and its war on humanity. They merely wish their imperialists to be sexually pure and exercise their God-given duty to inflict the Scourge of God against sinners.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 17:02 utc | 803

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Jul 28 2024 14:39 utc | 765
What better way to change the news cycle from an assassination and a coup than grinding the transgender boot in our face?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 28 2024 17:04 utc | 804

Update on the Red Sea situation.
A Tale of Two Carriers | Does the Deployments of IKE & TR Mark a Change in US Policy in the Red Sea? ==> https://youtu.be/H0MSL-Vp1Ps

Posted by: too scents | Jul 28 2024 17:09 utc | 805

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 16:50 utc | 801
Correct me if I’m wrong Peter, but doesn’t Genocide Joe favour sniffing the hair of young females?
So what does that have to do with all your homophobic points and prejudices?
It rather proves the point that while homosexual child grooming and exploitations is a real threat to children, heterosexual child grooming and exploitation is a much bigger threat to more young children because numerically there are far more heterosexual men in existence. The bottom line and target of any anger should be those who exploit vulnerable people and children, you can do this without ignorantly attacking homosexuals or making homophobic comments.
If you have a counter point to make then make it without the insults and straw man arguments.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Jul 28 2024 17:11 utc | 806

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:01 utc | 803
Camila Vallejó reminds me of Manuela d’Avila in nearby Brazil.
There’s a Spanish joke in there somewhere…Manuela…

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 28 2024 17:17 utc | 807

Lev Davidovich | Jul 28 2024 17:11 utc | 807
Counter points to wokism huh… straw man huh
Tell me this – I have a series of questions I will put one or two at a time.
Why do we eat eat?
Now don’t be a shirker and answer the questions I put to you.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 17:17 utc | 808

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 28 2024 17:17 utc | 808

Camila Vallejó reminds me of Manuela d’Avila in nearby Brazil.
There’s a Spanish joke in there somewhere…Manuela…

I wish my Spanish was good enough to catch your drift but, sadly, no.
I checked your Manuela d’Avila.
Not bad, but Camila Vallejo is on another league altogether.
This picture of her, almost turned me into a commie:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/08/camila-vallejo-latin-america-revolutionary

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:22 utc | 809

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:22 utc | 810
Manuela

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 28 2024 17:25 utc | 810

seems like a heated place today – moa..
@ @ Stonebird | Jul 28 2024 16:11 utc | 794
i think you’ve got that correct.. thanks..
@ xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 16:15 utc | 795
i agree with you in all you say there, and i appreciate your posts here at moa regardless of those who are attacking you personally.. i do get the impression the opening ceremonies – and i haven’t seen them – were a real poke in the eye to the vast majority of people on the planet.. whether that was intentional – it certainly looks like it was..

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:26 utc | 811

Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:22 utc | 810
The evil enemy’s secret weapon. An actual woman. Russia has that secret weapon as well. Very sneaky these enemies of empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 17:29 utc | 812

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 17:02 utc | 804
The thing is Steven, your position is not rebellious, edgy and original It is just conformist regurgitation of DNC talking points wholly absent of original thought or insight that every 20 something is also swearing allegiance to. It is your Bible and your God that was handed to you by the DNC cult. If you doubt me provide one insight about the matter that hasn’t already been said a thousand times before, by 15 year old teenagers no less.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 28 2024 17:29 utc | 813

@ Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:01 utc | 803
i would like to read the article, but i can only get this.. any other options for reading it??
“If you want biobiochile.cl remain a free means of information for your users, so please,
Do not block their advertisements.”

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:29 utc | 814

@ Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:01 utc | 803
i managed to read it.. i copied and pasted into a translate page, before it stopped me from doing so.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:34 utc | 815

Of all the attractive female fighters, I think Leila Khaled and Roza Shanina
are the most striking. And their strength of character and their actions are only amplified by their beauty.
They’re female Givis.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 28 2024 17:34 utc | 816

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:29 utc | 815
Use a browser that sneaks in with ad neglect. I do not have issues using Brave in Ubuntu.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:37 utc | 817

The artistic idea of these degenerates was that the nation of Chile was being aborted from the ass of a transvestite, yeah, those are artistic representations that you approve of.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:01 utc | 803
I didn’t say I approved it since I didn’t watched it and since I’m not Chilean, I do not give myself the right to decide what is good for them or not.
I probably misunderstand the meaning of it. Calm down, take your pill.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 17:41 utc | 818

@ Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:37 utc | 818
thanks.. i am using brave in ubuntu as well, but this one stumped me.. anyway – i managed to copy and paste and translate.. i gather this event happened in chile, as opposed to france??

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:43 utc | 819

Extremism to left of me, extremism to the right of me. A recent article in ABC oz media. Not sure where it was now but did have it in the article. Somewhere in eastern oz.
What is/was termed poofter bashing. They would check around for vacant houses, then get on a homosexual site an lure the victim to the vacant house.
My mate knew a couple of blokes a bit in his younger days, He said one was small and pretty, the other a gorilla. The small pretty bloke would go into and establishment and come out with some cannon fodder for the gorilla.
It seems that as in your face homosexualism ramps up, so to will the opposite.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 17:48 utc | 820

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 28 2024 17:25 utc | 811
OK, I got it 😀 yeah.
Great examples of attractive female fighters.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:49 utc | 821

To agree a little bit with my detractors, I’m actually divided on the issue of the Olympic opening ceremony: while I’m viscerally against homophobia and transphobia, I do realise that its artistic choices are generally counter-productive for the LGBTQ cause, which is, let’s face it, the case when it comes to capitalist exploitation. It would certainly have been better if the show had been more consensual for audiences all over the world. Behind this apparent inclination to shock, there is undoubtedly a desire to provoke divisions by redirecting people’s anger towards targets other than Macron, some of whose recent comments have demonstrated his true transphobia.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 17:53 utc | 822

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:43 utc | 820
Yes, it happened in Chile on Aug. 28, 2022, when Chileans were about to vote a new, uber-woke constitution, which was eventually rejected.
It’s in the same league as the display in Paris.
Normalizing sexual deviancy.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:55 utc | 823

@ Johan Kaspar | Jul 28 2024 17:55 utc | 824
okay.. thank you for clarifying that for me!

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2024 17:57 utc | 824

One of the most brilliant works of modern propaganda is tying filthy anal degeneracy with working-class issues.
Truly, it is only white people who believe stuff like that.
But then, it is mostly white people talking about the “working class” in the first place.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 17:57 utc | 825

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 28 2024 17:57 utc | 826
Crass said it pretty well in It’s The Greatest Working Class Rip-Off (1982).

Working class hero beats up middle class twit
Media labels, system’s shit
When it looks like the people could score a win
The system makes sure that the boot goes in.
Yeah it’s the greatest working class rip off, oi, oi, oi
Just another fucking rip off, a fucking media ploy

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 28 2024 18:27 utc | 826

: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 17:53 utc | 823
Don’t try that bullshit faggot troll. Macron approved it and thought it a great show.
Blody faggot pride huh. Like that clown at my daughters engagement party.
Laying on floor in foetal pose saying don’t hurt me don’t hurt hurt me Just cause I stood up abruptly from from my drunken slumber when he was obviously intent on sucking my cock. In my daughters house.
That piece of ‘pride’ squirming on the floor… your type are disgusting.
And where are you lex? start answering my questions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 18:38 utc | 827

Don’t try that bullshit faggot troll. Macron approved it and thought it a great show.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 18:38 utc | 828
It’s not bs, darling.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZlmoyHq5xJQ

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 18:48 utc | 828

Macron approved it and thought it a great show.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 18:38 utc | 828
Well, you just don’t like the idea that he’s more like you than like me… :))

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 18:55 utc | 829

Don’t try that bullshit faggot troll. Macron approved it and thought it a great show.
Blody faggot pride huh. Like that clown at my daughters engagement party.
Laying on floor in foetal pose saying don’t hurt me don’t hurt hurt me Just cause I stood up abruptly from from my drunken slumber when he was obviously intent on sucking my cock. In my daughters house.

Haha, what the fuck is this? Do you make a habit of ruining family events with your drunkenness?

Posted by: Anon | Jul 28 2024 21:12 utc | 830

Yes, faggotry is a self-solving problem. Just gotta keep them away from the kids.
Posted by: Williiam Gruff | Jul 28 2024 13:33 utc | 738
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Except that despite societal disapproval, from the sidewise glance to public execution, they keep on appearing, no matter the time or the culture.
Guess you need a better “solution”.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 28 2024 21:52 utc | 831

I’ve made it a point to avoid the Olympics out of principle. Stopping at a fine brewpub in the middle of nowhere subjected me to a few minutes of nasty US coverage: only American competitors were shown, even though they were placing 4th, 7th, and 9th. (But they were awfully nice-looking at least.)
So all I’ve seen are a few photos of the opening ceremonies, which I found to be in appallingly poor taste.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 28 2024 21:59 utc | 832

Haha, what the fuck is this? Do you make a habit of ruining family events with your drunkenness?
Posted by: Anon | Jul 28 2024 21:12 utc | 831
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Uh oh, the Bad Peter is back. Any minute now we’re going to get a rant about the Policeman (or was it a pistal carrier?) With Tats.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 28 2024 22:01 utc | 833

A far more interesting topic than obvious transgender degeneracy is how did they acquired so much power? I can see how the equal protection of gays and lesbians could be a legitimate civil rights issue because it isn’t an insignificant population, but this is a nothing in terms of a serious moral dilemma. But somehow, the scale of influence of this group is unprecedented for such an unworthy cause. It does smell of Empire shenanigans and manipulation of the public more than anything, and the trans are just useful tools.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 28 2024 23:47 utc | 834

A far more interesting topic than obvious transgender degeneracy is how did they acquired so much power? I can see how the equal protection of gays and lesbians could be a legitimate civil rights issue because it isn’t an insignificant population, but this is a nothing in terms of a serious moral dilemma. But somehow, the scale of influence of this group is unprecedented for such an unworthy cause. It does smell of Empire shenanigans and manipulation of the public more than anything, and the trans are just useful tools.
Posted by: Turk 152
Russians apparently say/think – it’s ok if you’re queer, just keep that to yourself, forget about having any public homosexual parades. Do not confuse the children.
That seems like a good, wholesome approach that would be supported by the majority of Americans, if we actually had democracy & majority rule.
Russian leaders, like the Chinese apparently believe the purpose of their existence is to help the people, to be good/virtuious & honorable human beings, while in the West – it seems the leaders are on the opposite end of that spectrum. They apparently think deception/greed/vices, weird/unnatural things are fun.

Posted by: WillSeymour | Jul 29 2024 0:02 utc | 835

Posted by: WillSeymour | Jul 29 2024 0:02 utc | 836
A mere 7 years ago, Transgenderism didn’t exist in the public consciousness, even in the U.S. Now it is everywhere worldwide, despite being a very bad idea, not only for the families but the kids who may wake up one day and realize they have been sterilized or subject to a great deal of psychological manipulation and trauma. Very powerful forces, have put this movement on the top of the agenda for it to spread so fast. Who are these people and why?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 0:33 utc | 836

It does smell of Empire shenanigans and manipulation of the public more than anything, and the trans are just useful tools.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 28 2024 23:47 utc | 835
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I think we’re still in the process of finding out how small (or large) the trans population is: once the taboos fall, more honest-to-goodness real men (and women) discover that they…aren’t quite. That much said, and adolescent confusion and youthful experimentation notwithstanding, I suspect low single-digit percentage. If it’s a constant in human nature or biology even, perhaps the numbers from a society where transsexuality is more or less accepted could give us some indication of what to expect here. Hmm, what are the numbers for Thailand?
Anyway, I suspect you’re right: the elites are using the issue to divide us — and with appalling success, I might add.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 0:37 utc | 837

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 17:17 utc | 809
Why do we eat eat?
Now don’t be a shirker and answer the questions I put to you.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 18:38 utc | 828
And where are you lex? start answering my questions.
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Peter, I think Lex may be having problems parsing the question.
I struggled with your question for some time and then gave up. In normal usage, “Eat” is a transitive verb (sometimes intransitive with unusual usage), so I cannot determine what “eat eat” is, and so it remains unclear to me why we would do it.
Perhaps you could consider re-phrasing the question?

Posted by: General Factotum | Jul 29 2024 0:58 utc | 838

malenkov | Jul 28 2024 22:01 utc | 834
Its completely up to you what you do in your private life and it does not bother me. If you come here to defend what was shoved in the faces of families around the world, in the faces of children, that clown in the bondage gear with his goolies hanging out, that sort of stuff belongs in a homosexual bar or whatever, but have child involved in that freak show. Well if you want to defend that then I will have something to say.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:01 utc | 839

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 0:37 utc | 838
I never thought you could be programmed to be gay as I believe the sexual attraction instinct mostly runs our universe. But it seems like the male female identity is somehow hackable and exploitable.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 1:02 utc | 840

General Factotum | Jul 29 2024 0:58 utc | 839
Quite easy to see that was a typo.
So I shall correct the typo.
Why do we eat?. Or better yet why do we get hungry? Hint, one answer covers both
Lets try you. Can you answer that question.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:06 utc | 841

“….but have child involved in that freak show. Well if you want to defend that then I will have something to say.
Posted by: Peter AU1
Yes thank you, it seems most men will stand with you/us on that one Peter AU1.
It should ne noted that the terribly desperate US military recruiters have for years been offering new recruits free sex change operations. IMO, that is just one of countless indicators that the USA has totally lost it.
and I wonder:
Did the Zionist ruling elite’s AIPAC/Mossad/Epstein Honeytrap/blackmail videos recordings have a profoundly powerful effect on US/UK/NATO politicians? Were there spiked drinks. Sex slave children & hidden camera’s waiting in their rooms?!
Was Epstein just a little tip of a huge iceberg?

Posted by: will-seymore | Jul 29 2024 1:09 utc | 842

will-seymore | Jul 29 2024 1:09 utc | 843
As can be observed in other countries, society does depend very much on the leadership.
I was thinking about this before in what is happening to society in the west and thinking about the Epstein leadership circle here in the west.
Depraved leadership = depraved society.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:14 utc | 843

@ Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:01 utc | 840
I think that preadolescent sex education should be limited to
1. “Don’t let people touch you there, and call for help if anyone makes you feel uncomfortable that way” and
2. “Most of you know that there are men who like men, and women who like women, and men and women whose minds tell them that they have a sex different from their bodies. You can think that’s okay, or wrong, or weird. But if they’re not hurting you, well, you remember the Golden Rule?”

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 1:39 utc | 844

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 1:39 utc | 845
#2 is programming and has no scientific basis whatsoever. If you had kids, there is no way you would want them near any of that junk science quackery.
Some men like women and women like men can be supported. But that seems like a topic for high school kids.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 1:49 utc | 845

“It’s a mentally-ill tranny nation with nukes. It should be feared for how insane it is…”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 27 2024 19:29 utc | 664
That right there is straight to the point.

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 29 2024 1:53 utc | 846

2. has nothing to do with programming or even science. It avoids the question of why (or how) there can be same-sex attraction or transsexuality; such questions aren’t age-apprporiate anyway. 2. even allows kids to make their own moral judgments.
I guess your problem is with the Golden Rule.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 1:54 utc | 847

malenkov | Jul 29 2024 1:54 utc | 848
Anything like that is not appropriate for minors. They should be in a normal family environment till no longer minors.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:57 utc | 848

@ Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:57 utc | 849
A lot of kids don’t have “normal family environments.”
I’ll chalk you up as anti-Golden Rule too, not that that’s at all surprising.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 2:02 utc | 849

malenkov | Jul 29 2024 2:02 utc | 850
If you wish to defend child grooming then I most certainly have a grouping I can put you in.
“A lot of kids don’t have “normal family environments.””
And what is the reason for that? That is something that should be looked at and improved/rectified rather than saying “great, plenty of kids to prey on and groom”.
The very reason I am so angry at massive government support and promotion for depravity and zero support and promotion for the family.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:10 utc | 850

Nobody willing to follow through on my line of questions?
Hunger – to live we must constantly replenish what we have expended, protein energy, minerals ect. Hunger is a basic survival mechanism. We can eat fancy meals or plain meals but we cannot live on cocacola, icecream and top it off with narcotics.
Same with thirst. a survival mechanism. It can have other things in it but the body needs water.
Lust – it about reproduction, survival of the species not just the individual. It can have also of toppings and whatever but at its basics is reproduction.
We are mammals, of the primate group of mammals.
Like all mammals there is a natural social order and that can be seen in the tribal scene, and each clan in the tribe/nation is an extended family.
To not promote the family, to denigrate the family, to promote homosexuality instead is the same as promoting absolute junk food, to tell people to drink oil instead of water if they are thirsty.
The family always has to come first in any successful society no matter how large or small, no matter how advanced or primitive.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:25 utc | 851

@ Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:10 utc | 851
I find it remarkable — but hardly surprising — that you equate telling people to treat same-sex and trans types according to the Golden Rule with “grooming” them to become members of those demographics.
Anyway, the only “grooming” that should be going on with schoolkids is grooming them to be competent in such matters as grammar and mathematics.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 2:28 utc | 852

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 29 2024 1:54 utc | 848
Questioning one’s identity at that age is normal, but a foray into the Trans world could harm your kids or even your kids friends, particularly if they got sold on a medical treatment, so you would only telling be them half the story – your half. If they are teenagers, don’t count on being able to talk them out of it. It is not like taking a foray into a same sex relationship as it it could create permanent damage. Your job as a parent is to steer them away from permanent until they are an adult and have the capacity to make those decisions.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 2:28 utc | 853

“The very reason I am so angry at massive government support and promotion for depravity and zero support and promotion for the family.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:10 utc | 851
I totally see your point and I’ve mentioned it before here. We now have officially sponsored “Pride Month” and parades, but no official sponsorship of or parades in support of families. Americans paying any attention to MSM media forcing can see it easily for themselves that all of the “Pride” stories now vastly outnumber anything about what used to be significant “holidays” days just 20 years ago, Mothers Day and Fathers Day. Anyone without blinders on can see this happening.

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 29 2024 2:37 utc | 854

Wisco | Jul 29 2024 2:37 utc | 855
Yep. Here we watch the geopolitical world and comment on it, but do not question the destruction of our own society from within.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:43 utc | 855

Rules based order and western ‘values’ are terms commonly used by our glorious leaders.
Nope, lets get back to the rule of law and international law and family values.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:47 utc | 856

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 1:06 utc | 842
Lets try you. Can you answer that question.
****************
Yes I can.
But you must first mark my homework from last week
And provide corrections, please.

Posted by: General Factotum | Jul 29 2024 2:57 utc | 857

General Factotum | Jul 29 2024 2:57 utc | 858
I guess I did not swat you by mistake last time round.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 3:04 utc | 858

“Here we watch the geopolitical world and comment on it, but do not question the destruction of our own society from within.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:43 utc | 856
Quite a few here do actually recognize and question that societal destruction from within. That’s one reason why MoA is very popular despite its old-fashioned format, and such a rich source of info.

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 29 2024 3:10 utc | 859


/Disagree:
We are mammals, of the primate group of mammals.
Like all mammals there is a natural social order and that can be seen in the tribal scene, and each clan in the tribe/nation is an extended family.
/Agree:
To not promote the family, to denigrate the family, to promote homosexuality instead is the same as promoting absolute junk food, to tell people to drink oil instead of water if they are thirsty.
/Agree
The family always has to come first in any successful society no matter how large or small, no matter how advanced or primitive.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 2:25 utc | 852

Disagree with the view that we are mammals: Our physical bodies are only temporary vehicles. MLK did a fine job of explaining his view, which many agree with:

“Man is man because he is free to deliberate, to make decisions, & to choose between alternatives. He is distinguished from animals by his freedom to do evil or to do good & to walk the high road of beauty or tread the low road of ugly degeneracy. MLK

Also, according to esoteric teachings widely accepted for centuries – each of us come up through the kingdoms… each of us have moved beyond “lower” kingdoms:
Mineral,Plant, Animal – to man. Animals are perfect because their “Free will” is very limited. Dogs are of course, greatly affected by the personalities of those who care for them. It is widely accepted in esoteric circles that it takes literally hundreds of thousands of lifetimes for a person get to a point where he’s ready to graduate -with the high consciousness & self-discipline & wisdom– that Gautama Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, Mohammad, & many others less famous have attained.
Reincarnation & the law of cause & effect: Karma (as we sow, we reap) was widely known & accepted by many thinkers until 553AD when Zionist emperor Justinian had the Zionist Roman Catholic church remove/ban Church father Origen’s teachings on Reincarnation/Karma – back around the time of the Crusades – when most people were terrified of being burned at the stake.
So the Natural Order in the west has been corrupted with deception/big lies, by men who apparently believe that the most skilled at the art of deception & what they may view as “herd control” are the smartest & most suited to rule. So it seems that the two most trusted institutions in the west stand on big lies —- The “State” with it’s so called “defense” + democracy/or democratic republics/free & fair elections/justice/politicians doing the will of the people, and the “Church” that banned Origen’s teachings, and created certain super decepting concepts like Vicarious atonement & eternal hell – both of which served as marketing techniques.
-The “natural social order” of the tribe/nation should be & often is determined by intelligence & strength but without integrity & transparency they’re doomed to fail miserably. To succeed, they must be trust worthy & fair. In cases where it’s a dishonest, criminal, self-enriching, habitual lying operation (standing on a corrupt foundation) it’s just a matter of time before it falls. That’s Karma! As they so, they reap!
Also, some people have been women (or men) half a dozen (or more) times in a row then suddenly they incarnate in a male body, in this insanely f’d up western world where the blind lead the blind, they go to a mode of life that seems familiar – acting like the other gender (not the one they were assigned). They just don’t know better & are definitely freaking out- doing the best they know, what seems right to them. Of course many have had the most common profession of all time. So en sum, it seems a little sympathy is in order. Also, it’s easier for some of us to sympathize with gay women – by far the finer/fairer gender. Can’t blame them if many of the men think deep inside they females. It doesn’t help when national leaders & educators encourage it & even tell children how to get each other off. It makes such nations the laughing stock of more nations that are not led by blind men. But hat too will pass for sure, much sooner than most imagine! Hold on to your hat!

Posted by: WillSeymour | Jul 29 2024 3:20 utc | 860

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2024 14:08 utc | 754
You’re taking up about 70% of thread space here. Please try to exercise some restraint. I do appreciate a lot of your commentary, but I will not sit here and be lectured about “woke” from someone who doesn’t even live in the USA or have the slightest understanding of how the term came into being for MANY years before the right-wing spin machine caught onto it and made it into something ‘new’ (or of the same cloth as divide-and-rule culture wars that so enamor the billionaire class) for a bunch of people all over the world.
Luckily for you, if you’re a UK resident, you don’t have to worry about living on provably stolen land.
Anyway, defer to Roger’s response to me. I’m in agreement with him 100%.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 29 2024 3:48 utc | 861

WillSeymour | Jul 29 2024 3:20 utc | 861
No matter if we were created or evolved, We are mammals and in the subgroup primates.
Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 29 2024 3:48 utc | 862
Go fly your Chilean flag.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 3:58 utc | 862

That should have been liberal Chilean flag to be a bit more precise.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 4:01 utc | 863

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 3:58 utc | 863
Chilean flag? Gladly – if you have the slightest fucking idea what that even means. It’s gone too far. There is just something way off about some of you dudes that fly this “faggots bad” flag so forcefully. You’re hiding something. It’s weird. This internalized homophobia in a setting where gayness is not even a remotely relevant basis of conversation smacks of severe projection. On Gruff’s part too. Is he one of those Boy Scout leaders who molested a ton of young boys while professing that fags are the root of all evil in everyday life? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/
Peter, what’s your real problem man? Please answer me in a straightforward manner.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 29 2024 4:04 utc | 864

Biggus Dickus| Jul 29 2024 4:04 utc | 865
He who has trouble finding a woman who can accommodate his biggus dickus. And yes you posted that crap.
You’re a clown. You want to defend that depravity that was displayed to the world…
That was a straight out in your face attack on the family, shoved in the faces of families around the world without warning and as I have stated, it included a bondage enthusiast with his nuts hanging out and a child. No wonder Russia and much of world are outlawing this shit.
As for the liberal Chilean flag, read upthread.
This all stated because I made a simple comment about the Drag&freak show which is what it was and clowns like you try to defend it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 4:18 utc | 865

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 29 2024 4:04 utc | 865
Don’t you find it strange that just when the world began to accept gays and lesbians as equals, the Trans movement was suddenly thrust upon us out of nowhere? And being anti trans means being homophobic, while gays aren’t necessarily pro trans and also see them as abnormal extremists, they defend trans because they feel victimized when trans are denigrated. So Homophobia is now the equivalent to antisemitism. I feel like Zionism is to Judaism as Trans is to Homosexuality. Why have the elites have been nurturing the Trans movement? The White House, The Olympics, What’s next? The Vatican?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 4:26 utc | 866

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 3:04 utc | 859
I guess I did not swat you by mistake last time round.
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Hello Peter. So why did you “swat” me? I’m genuinely curious. Please don’t hold back!
As I said previously, I mostly do appreciate your posts – but sometimes things seem to really go off the rails. Have you ever taken the time to read through a past thread where your comments may have alienated a lot of otherwise accommodating barflies? If not, you may very well find it worth your while to take some time to reflect on what you say, how you say it, and how your comments may be received by the wider audience. In trying to reach an audience it is as equally important to consider how the audience views you, as it is to consider how you view the audience. There are many, many ways in which an audience can be alienated; much fewer, and much more difficult is the task of engaging with an audience.
Speaking to an alienated audience is about as effective as pissing into the wind. Is it all coming back to you now?
\”Preach mode” now turned off…

Posted by: General Factotum | Jul 29 2024 4:42 utc | 867

No wonder Russia and much of world are outlawing this shit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 4:18 utc | 866

Russia wouldn’t have outlawing this shit if itself was not banned from it.

when the world began to accept gays and lesbians as equals
Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 4:26 utc | 867

You’re the one who said it. You’re not gay, as far as I know. And many of your comments clearly show otherwise. When I read Peter AU1’s, I don’t get the feeling that gays are equal for everyone.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 29 2024 4:52 utc | 868

Saying the swarm of tyrannies homing in here are as thick as flies at an Aussie BBQ would be a bit of an understatement.
Here ya go Tom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrcbCW4y9Dw

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 5:05 utc | 869

gays
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 29 2024 4:52 utc | 869
When I was young that word simply meant being happy. Very common in children’s books.
Pride meant being proud of an achievement. It is the main reason many things are built to high quality. You can take pride in your work.
Both now totally perverted words.
The correct term is homosexual.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 5:15 utc | 870

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 4:26 utc | 867

Why have the elites have been nurturing the Trans movement?

In the Western world, liberal elites have been promoting both homosexuality and trans-sexuality for various reasons but the most important one is to replace the fight for better economic deals for working class people with the fight for sexual perverts in the minds of leftists.
Leftists need to defend weak and oppressed people, animals and objects, it’s in their nature. If you take away working class people, the classic market for leftist sentiments, they need a replacement, something weak to defend against the powerful. Liberal elites are offering sexual deviants, cute iconic animals, migrants from poor countries, women, whatever they can find in order for leftists not to turn their efforts into improving the lot of working class people of Western polities.
Western conservatives and conventional leftists have a common cause here, and it is better to join forces because the depravity and debauchery that liberal elites have unleashed in the Western world is going so far as to be threatening the foundations, which are the biological families, female wife, male husband and children.
Promoting and elevating homosexuality in polities that are in demographic decay is incredibly stupid. Homosexuals do not produce children. In societies suffering demographich decay, as nearly all western societies are in fact suffering, homosexuality must be repressed. This is pure biology, not ideology or hate or anything like that, pure biological imperatives of survival and sustainability of populations.
In the Western world we need to recover the production of children to keep the size of our populations at its curent level (i.e. population fertility of 2.1 per female lifetime). The promotion of homosexuality is exactly what we don’t need right now. We have to help young people with borderline sexuality to fall on the side of heterosexuality. This is not optional. It is a biological imperative. Populations that don’t have sufficient fertility simply go extinct and that is mathematical certainty.
The above is in addition to the fact that depravity and debauchery as represented by the French nation in the Olimpycs is in very bad taste, a freak show of the worst kind, tacky and depraved.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 29 2024 7:53 utc | 871

Anyone who thinks this is new or predicated only on new tech or media ignores ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ar-BB1qK9jH

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 29 2024 11:32 utc | 872

“And a moral degenerate and mental defective is promptly heard from. It is of course the Trump worshippers who support imperialism and its war on humanity. They merely wish their imperialists to be sexually pure and exercise their God-given duty to inflict the Scourge of God against sinners.”
Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 28 2024 17:02 utc | 804
Hey you fuckin fruitcake-Trump didn’t start any wars but facts don’t seem to figure in your TDS trapped mind.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:47 utc | 873

Peter AU1…you’re firing on all cylinders tonight, my sentiments exactly…..well done.

Posted by: Honeyeater | Jul 29 2024 14:23 utc | 874

Good insight.
I was following a live chat app Clubhouse,in which they organized a discussion between Palestinians and Israeli Jews a few years ago. It lasted weeks and many Jews said they were speaking to Palestinians for the first time and were moved to tears. It was so big that it attracted the attention of the Likud foreign minister who joined the call. He starts with an instance rant about how Palestinians were dogs and implied they were serving US military interest, it was quite awkward as the rest of the Jewish audience was brainwashed by Holocaust projection but were not homicidal as he appeared to be. After all that he blurts out that Israel believes in Civil Rights because they are pro LGBT. I felt that LGBT rights was an insincere political strategy used to dehumanizes Muslims and justify their brutality. Israel is civilized because they are pro LGBT, but Muslims are animals because they aren’t.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 29 2024 14:31 utc | 875

Trump didn’t start any wars but facts don’t seem to figure in your TDS trapped mind.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:47 utc | 874
Yes it’s true but no it’s wrong. I remind you the Operation Gideon in Venezuela.
As a matter of fact, he didn’t start any new war, hats off, but he did a few stuffs here and there that could have ended badly : in Syria and in Iran (remember Suleimani). Usual White House crap. But you’re right, he’s far from being the worst.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 29 2024 18:07 utc | 876

The correct term is homosexual.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 5:15 utc | 871
Thanx, I hope it makes you gay.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 29 2024 18:10 utc | 877

Looked up this now old thread to check the results and the homosexuals in skirts are still buzzing around like a disturbed hornets nest.
I sure poked a hornets nest. Tom Q came out of the closet and probably over everything else watching the french show. He of the mighty dick. Most likely scenario is the girls giggle at such a tiny thing so he has to be the female in a homosexual um …. shagging.
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Thanx, I hope it makes you gay.
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 29 2024 18:10 utc | 878
That the best you can do. You freaks, its like that American female swimmer beaten by a homosexual and when she spoke out about it she was abused then punched in the face by a gang of shirt wearing poofs.
Yeah, you lot are like nasty little wasps that can only spit venom or physically attack actual women. Angry little insects.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2024 22:42 utc | 878

Trump didn’t start any wars but facts don’t seem to figure
Posted by: canuck | Jul 29 2024 11:47 utc | 874
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I dunno about that.
Sending arms to Ukraine that were explicitly stated to be for the purpose of killing Russians in the Donbass – how could anybody think doing that would not start a war?

Posted by: jinn | Jul 30 2024 12:49 utc | 879

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 14:23 utc | 760
I’m surprised to see even on this relatively obscure website we have diligent Macronists doing their best to control the narrative.
There is absolutely no ambiguity the Last Supper was the inspiration* for this sorry skit as the performers themselves said as much on their instagram, and internet never forgets. They miscalculated, thinking the rest of the world would be as submissive as the average French they are accustomed to abuse with impunity. With the amount of flak they were taking on the international scene, they had to backpedal vigorously and pull some obscure painting out of their hat, get rid of the incriminating social media posts, censor videos of the performance and pay some pollster to pretend 85% of the French approved of this masquerade (i.e. Debbie Downers are a minority and should shut up).
Sorry xiao pignouf, like Brigitte found out when she tried to make Candace Owens shut up, you are powerless outside of our failed country.
* (Imho it’s very likely they had this stupid idea in the first place because in French the Last Supper is called “cène” and it sounds exactly like “Seine”, but of course I can’t prove that – still more likely than the official narrative about Bacchus being Sequana’s father, which is both unsubstantiated and beggars belief, as if these freaks were mythology buffs …)

Posted by: surrenderingmonkey | Jul 31 2024 6:29 utc | 880

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 28 2024 16:11 utc | 794
I don’t think the blue guy is supposed to be a Smurf. The smurfs always wear a white cap and trousers, while the blue guy’s outfit clearly references traditional representations of Dionysus. I think it’s a mockery of the famous command: “This is my body, which is given for you. Eat this as a way of remembering me!”. Now, in Greek and Roman mythology, Bacchus was cut up and eaten by the Titans (before being reborn from the thigh of Jupiter). This would connect and also opens a weird occult rabbit hole (Titans -> giants -> book of Enoch -> …) which may be reading way too much into it.

Posted by: surrenderingmonkey | Jul 31 2024 6:54 utc | 881

Problem is… that’s also not true. Drag Queens readings to kids take place in municipal libraries, not schools or kindergartens as it is often stated. It makes a slight difference because the entry is free (“free” as you are free to go or not) and always in the presence of parents, and more important, it’s not part of a global project to confuse kids with their sexual identities. It’s more about learning tolerance and fighting homophobia. You would need something like that.
The problem with your statement is that a part of the “fag” identity is impossible to hide, as you would like them to do. They are “fags” because they look like “fags” not because they publicly declare they like it in the ass. It means you would like them to simply disappear by acting like straight people, which by essence, they can’t do. The real problem is not them, it’s you and your incapacity to see them without picturing them into their sexual intimacy that you find disgusting. It’s you who need to understand why you cannot see gays, trans or lesbians (who are less of a problem for you because two women together makes you have a hard-on) without being mentally self-harassed by sexual thoughts.
If I really was a faggot, I won’t hide it. I do not have a problem with it as you seem to. You just waste your time calling me names that don’t touch me.
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 28 2024 15:28 utc | 776
Xiao Pignouf, the performances that offended people were overtly sexual (I remember a guy dressed as a monkey wearing a strap-on cavorting in front of children). So it’s not people having too much imagination, it’s a disturbing trend of normalising openly sexual behaviours in front of prepubescent children. If wearing a strap-on in public is so much part of your identity that you cannot hide it, maybe you should consider staying away from other people’s children. How hard is it to just leave other people’s children alone?

Posted by: surrenderingmonkey | Jul 31 2024 7:13 utc | 882