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July 24, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-174

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The body can vid of SS on the roof of the AGM building provides evidence to support the Second Shooter theory that I signed up to earlier in the week.
Govt snipers were in the windows of the adjoining building, overlooking the roof where Patsy was attracting the attention of the crowd.
In fact, from the body cam we learn the name of the govt sniper in the closest window is “Greg”.
Did “Greg” take a shot at Trump?
He was in the right place at the right time….
How convenient the radio comms has been “lost”.
Did the Crowdstrike downing of the global internet help with that deletion ?
Secret Service Bodycam Footage Of Trump Assassin RELEASED! Worse Than You Can Imagine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBmfmOG63jU

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2024 14:39 utc | 1

The mighty Titani… err… Eurostan is unsinkable! No need to worry, everything guaranteed by the world’s most qualified shipyard, BISIMF Incorporated.

The EU is bankrupt and preparing for asset seizure. It’s why they’re building this registry. What’s coming is not just inflation, but confiscation.
This is how they bail out central banks.
1) Here’s FT admitting the need to bail out central banks: https://archive.is/r57Ij
Suddenly, we’re told QE isn’t free! That it was just borrowing from the future. Which was denied.
2) See also below on confiscation. Just translate to the EU, which gets hit even harder.

https://x.com/balajis/status/1815851218901868811

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 24 2024 14:42 utc | 2

A view that relates equally to Ukraine and Palestine.
Ukraine folding before the elections would deprive Trump of his “peacemaker” talisman, unless you believe he can sell peace in Palestine.
It is in Trump’s interest to continue the war on Ukraine through November.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 24 2024 14:45 utc | 3

A view that relates equally to Ukraine and Palestine.
Ukraine folding before the elections would deprive Trump of his “peacemaker” talisman, unless you believe he can sell peace in Palestine.
It is in Trump’s interest to continue the war on Ukraine through November.
Posted by: too scents | Jul 24 2024 14:45 utc | 3
So doubly OT here 😀
Anything on Venezuela? Any locals that can give some local insights?

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 24 2024 15:14 utc | 4

This comment contains some interesting perspectives.
https://thomaszimmer.substack.com/p/kamala-harris-may-force-a-reckoning

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 24 2024 15:19 utc | 5

alex krainer
Is Civil War 2.0 coming to the USA?

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2024 15:20 utc | 6

Latin America:
Counterpunch published an interesting essay discussing the Milei phenomenon in Argentina. It highlights trends which have also been seen with the rise of “populist” politicians in many jurisdictions over the past decade.
Milei as the Argentine Messiah After the Failure of the Intellectuals
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/07/12/milei-as-the-argentine-messiah-after-the-failure-of-the-intellectuals/
“Milei clearly lacks understanding of what he is talking about, but that is also why he is loveable, for reasons resembling what makes Trump an endearing kabuki-theater of obscenity in the eyes of the disheartened, Fentanyl-sick American spectatorship…So, who killed politics in Argentina? Milei was elected based on pre-existing antipolitical sentiment…”
Also – Venezuela will be going to the polls in a few days. Some analysts predict the end of the Chavez era, with a population prepared to declare “no mas” in the face of continuing US-led economic strangulation.

Posted by: jayc | Jul 24 2024 15:34 utc | 7

@ Avtonom | Jul 24 2024 15:19 utc | 5
you might enjoy reading this.. it’s from don f on the previous open thread..
Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2024 15:58 utc | 8

Quote from Frank Herbert (Dune),

Law always chooses sides on the basis of enforcement power. Morality and legal niceties have little to do with it when the real question is: Who has the clout?

In other words, might makes right. It always has, and always will.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 16:01 utc | 9

T-online, 24.7.:
In einem Grundschulhort in Pirna haben Kinder mit Bausteinen und Kieseln Hakenkreuze gelegt. Die Polizei hat ein Ermittlungsverfahren eingeleitet.
Im Grundschulhort von Pirna haben vier Kinder im Alter von neun bis elf Jahren mit Bausteinen und Kieseln Hakenkreuze gelegt. Mitarbeiter des Horts informierten die Polizei unmittelbar nach dem Vorfall. Dieser ereignete sich bereits am 5. Juli, wie ein Sprecher der Polizei am Mittwoch mitteilte.
Die Polizei hat ein Ermittlungsverfahren wegen des Verwendens von Kennzeichen verfassungswidriger Organisationen eingeleitet. Da die Kinder strafunmündig sind, liegt die Entscheidung über das weitere Vorgehen bei der Staatsanwaltschaft. Weitere Details zum Hintergrund des Vorfalls nannte die Polizei zunächst nicht.
Staatsanwaltschaft entscheidet über Fortgang
Nach Angaben der Polizei wurde der Vorfall von Mitarbeitern des Horts bemerkt und gemeldet. Da es sich bei den beteiligten Kindern um Personen unterhalb der strafmündigen Altersgrenze handelt, können sie rechtlich nicht zur Verantwortung gezogen werden. Die “Sächsische Zeitung” berichtete zuerst über den Vorfall.
Die Umstände und Motive hinter dem Handeln der Kinder bleiben derzeit unklar. Es ist nicht bekannt, ob die Kinder sich bewusst waren, welche Bedeutung das Symbol hat.
T-online, July 24th:
In a primary school daycare center in Pirna, children made swastikas with building blocks and pebbles. The police have launched an investigation.
In the primary school in Pirna, four children between the ages of nine and eleven made swastikas using building blocks and pebbles. Employees of the after-school care center informed the police immediately after the incident. This happened on July 5th, as a police spokesman announced on Wednesday.
The police have opened an investigation into the use of license plates of unconstitutional organizations. Since the children are not of criminal responsibility, the decision on how to proceed rests with the public prosecutor’s office. The police initially did not provide any further details about the background to the incident.
The public prosecutor decides whether to proceed
According to the police, the incident was noticed and reported by after-school employees. Since the children involved are people below the age of criminal responsibility, they cannot be held legally responsible. The “Sächsische Zeitung” first reported on the incident.
The circumstances and motives behind the children’s actions remain unclear at this time. It is not known whether the children were aware of the meaning of the symbol. (Google translation)

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jul 24 2024 16:05 utc | 10

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6l20GfTCllqA
Kayfabe argument using video of snipers on roof

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 24 2024 16:05 utc | 11

How it is done.

Noting that China is a great country, and Ukraine and China are not only strategic partners but also important economic and trade partners, Kuleba said the Ukrainian side supports China’s position on the Taiwan question and will continue to adhere to the one-China policy.
more ==> https://english.news.cn/20240724/c7e03c28ee6c4592b5927e0bae8efffb/c.html

Posted by: too scents | Jul 24 2024 16:10 utc | 12

First, Patroklos, my condolences for your horrible loss.
~~
Lt col Daniel Davis posts somebody’s privately made simulation of shots fired at the former president at Butler, Pennsylvania rally:
@ ~ mintues 1:50 – 3:20
Then Davis shows audio record of shots recorded.
Shots 1, 2, and 3 have one signature.
Then a 3 seconds pause before a fast spray of 5 or 6 bullets which have a different signature.
Then a 9 second pause and a counter-sniper kill shot is fired.
@ ~ minutes 9:18 – 11:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQbJwRok-KI
The evidence supports the open window theory imo.

Posted by: suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:19 utc | 13

I am enjoying very much that America has had an obvious coup and even the independent media can’t see it.
Biden was removed from office (is he dead?), Trump was nearly killed, and stand-ins were elevated with Vance and Harris.
And NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 16:21 utc | 14

@ suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:19 utc | 13
suzan – was is the “open window theory”? i haven’t been following it extremely close.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2024 16:26 utc | 15

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 16:21 utc | 14

Posted by: Nokaz | Jul 24 2024 16:32 utc | 16

This is hilariously inappropriate. The best interpretation is that CrowdStrike’s PR is having a joke on management.

CrowdStrike offers a $10 apology gift card to say sorry for outage
CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm that crashed millions of computers with a botched update all over the world last week, is offering its partners a $10 Uber Eats gift card as an apology, according to several people who say they received the gift card, as well as a source who also received one.
On Tuesday, a source told TechCrunch that they received an email from CrowdStrike offering them the gift card because the company recognizes “the additional work that the July 19 incident has caused.”
“And for that, we send our heartfelt thanks and apologies for the inconvenience,” the email read, according to a screenshot shared by the source. The same email was also posted on X by someone else. “To express our gratitude, your next cup of coffee or late night snack is on us!”
https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/24/crowdstrike-offers-a-10-apology-gift-card-to-say-sorry-for-outage/

In what world does a $10 snack fix things?

Posted by: too scents | Jul 24 2024 16:40 utc | 17

Caleb Maupin’s book on Kamala Harris has been removed from the Amazon website. I wonder why ..? Luckily, you can read it here:
“>https://t.me/JotiBrar/3719

You can dl the pdf file there.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 16:44 utc | 18

I am enjoying very much that America has had an obvious coup and even the independent media can’t see it.
Biden was removed from office (is he dead?), Trump was nearly killed, and stand-ins were elevated with Vance and Harris.
And NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 16:21 utc | 14
Oh, I think millions care very much, but the press isn’t independent, as you know. They are in league with those that tried to assassinate Trump, removed Biden and called Kamala off the bench. I’d say they care a lot too, but their concern is primarily to cover up and aid the real masters of the country with their fraud and murder.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 24 2024 16:46 utc | 19

@ james | Jul 24 2024 16:26 utc | 15
There was an open window in the second story building directly behind Crooks. The building was being secured by the SS supposedly.
Of the first three shots, the first was the intended kill shot, all being fired from the open window. The lack of echo resonance in the recordings of these shots might indicate they were fired from within a structure.
They next spray of shots, fired more rapidly and wildly by someone more inexperienced?, has the echo signature (my terminology reflects my ignorance in these matters) of having been fired open air. These shots were fired by Crooks or whoever the patsy was.
Then the last shot, nine seconds after these shots, was the one which killed the patsy, fired by counter-sniper.
My understanding of the theory. Melaleuca has provided links for this theory.
They were planning for a grand funeral, a mighty show of fake compassion and unity? when that failed they plan another? “progress” by elimination? Techno Shakespearean

Posted by: suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:46 utc | 20

The three coups of July
In less than two weeks we have seen three events in the United States that could all by themselves be described as coups or coup attempts.

  1. Trump assassination attempt.

  2. Kamala’s coup, the forced removal of Biden from the ticket and possibly from the presidency.

  3. Trump’s counter coup after failed assassination, selection of JD Vance as candidate for Vice President.

The last event may be the most consequential of all, as it opens the possibility of a real regime change in America. During his first term Trump had little influence on the workings of the US government. He failed by surrounding himself with neocons and Deep State operatives.
The failed assassination now acts like the Reichstag fire of 1933, giving Trump Hitlerian powers to remove the old establishment. He is now manning his team with people the US mainstream likes to call “Russian agents” or “Putinists”. A real danger to democracy!
Interestingly, the Twitter account of TIME magazine published three covers and cover stories for a print issue dated with a sell-by date of August 5.

I do not know which one, if any, have appeared in print. Note, that the three covers do not match the three “coups” I have listed. Covers 1 and 3 are related to Biden’s ousting, cover 2 relates to Trump’s assassination attempt and counter coup.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 24 2024 16:46 utc | 21

There was a hidden war between the two main factions of corporate and political elites in America since the 1960s that was sometimes viewable to the public, e.g., the attacks on JFK, RFK, and Nixon. Then the war ended when most of them merged to become a Uniparty Establishment in the 1980s-90s ostensibly led by the Bush and Clinton political clans. This is that story.
Obama, who was financed by and represented various rich and powerful outsiders, upset their apple cart. He and his backers were then mostly accepted into the upper echelons of the upper class with some reservations due to not always sticking to the exact plans of the newest version of The American Establishment. From The Secret Uniparty War

Posted by: kana | Jul 24 2024 16:47 utc | 22

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 16:21 utc | 14
What I find even more stunning is that nobody is connecting perhaps the two most important US political events, an assassination attempt and a coup, which occurred a week apart. They are the same event.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 24 2024 16:50 utc | 23

They are the same event.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 24 2024 16:50 utc | 23

Mr. Magoo is everywhere.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 24 2024 16:52 utc | 24

@suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:19 utc | 13

Shots 1, 2, and 3 have one signature.
Then a 3 seconds pause before a fast spray of 5 or 6 bullets which have a different signature.
Then a 9 second pause and a counter-sniper kill shot is fired.
@ ~ minutes 9:18 – 11:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQbJwRok-KI
The evidence supports the open window theory imo.

Good video, thanks. The sound profile was interesting.
I tend to believe the 3 first shots was done by a professional (in the window). The next 5 rapid shots was from Crooks.
If correct, this is indeed a setup with a disposable patsy. The SS video also seems to support this understanding, ref “Greg”.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2024 16:57 utc | 25

How the world turns. How a monolithic mass media is developed and enshrined. If you are feeling that you somehow don’t belong in this world, that it turns without you, it’s only because you never went to Epstein Island.
Short clip from the youtube:

Former World Champion UFC/MMA fighter Jake Shields on his new Fight Back podcast recounts his bad experience from his visit to Israel years ago. “They took me to a party and tried to blackmail me”
“>https://t.me/thearcangel/113221

Probably from here, didn’t watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndS4_tB4_F8

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 16:59 utc | 26

@suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:46 utc | 20
This is how I understand it also. Crooks was the patsy and supposed “loner”. He did not shoot the 3 first shots, the first of which nearly killed Trump. He probably shot the next 5 shots that had a different signature and were fired rapidly.
The Agents on the roof behind Trump was observing in the direction of Crooks well before the first shot. I believe they were in on the plan, their job was to eliminate Crooks right after Trump had been hit.
Just a hypothesis, but it seems to be the scenario that makes sense and is supported by facts we now have.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2024 17:09 utc | 27

Posted by: too scents | Jul 24 2024 16:52 utc | 24
Yeah, unlike you, my balls dont shrivel when someone calls me a conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 24 2024 17:17 utc | 28

@Melaleuca | Jul 24 2024 14:39 utc | 1
Raw video (body camera footage from July 13th ) from the roof after the shooting. They talk about and point to the window where the sniper called Greg was…
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/104400

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2024 17:23 utc | 29

Crooks and his family were trump supporters.
No bullit hit trump it was faked.
Trumps security people ficilitated the shooting, by leaving gap’s in the security cordens., for a man with a gun and ladder to walk through and climb a roof !
The shooting gained support for trump.
No blood on his hair or white coller.
The security around trump allowed him to stand up not knowing if the threat was over.
He sucsessfully boosted his support with a similar ploy at Manderlay bay hotel in 2017.(trump supports at a jazz festival.)
The whole epesode has beem exploited by his supporters as a campgne gimmick.
Not least on this blog.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 17:41 utc | 30

Street theater. Yawn.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 17:43 utc | 31

Elon Musk is at the US Capitol and has confirmed he will be attending Benjamin Netanyahu’s address to Congress as his guest
“>https://t.me/afshinrattansi/7025

Luckily Mars is a dead planet, otherwise they’d be plotting the genocide there.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 17:46 utc | 32

How about first three shots fired using the roof as a support, since it is a steel building the recoil of the gun sounded through the building. The next five shots were shot in desperation as someone had approached him from behind. That person ducked down the ladder thinking the shooter was going to shoot him. The shooter made the desperation attempt and knew he wasn’t going to get away.

Posted by: ChatET | Jul 24 2024 17:50 utc | 33

We see a lot of signs of political instanility in US.
But the economy seems to be stable.
Accordibg to Marx, the economy drives the whole society, including the politics.
Why do we see US economy on good shape then?

Posted by: vargas | Jul 24 2024 18:03 utc | 34

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 17:46 utc | 32
US imperialism has another speciality.
“False flags”
They are good at creating things that don’t exist.
Surely they will find Iranian-made weapons of mass destruction on Mars, or baby corpses killed by the Iranian dictatorship.
Because the 2000’s neocon timetable that ” Iran is next after Iraq ” has not yet been fulfilled.

Posted by: Nokaz | Jul 24 2024 18:09 utc | 35

@ Melaleuca, suzan
Since I stumbled over Melaleuca’s posts on Monday, I’m following the second shooter topic closely and invested quite some time and thoughts on it, so her is my humble contribution.
I agree that the audio is evidence that shots 1-3 came from a different position than shots 4-8. Different position = second gun = second shooter.
There are many suggestions where the second shooter fired from. The buildings where Crookes was are one possibility. The best evidence for a second shooter we have however is a water tower nearby, 30 Meters high and maybe 200 Meters from Trump’s position. There are several witnesses saying that there was a gunman on top, I’ve seen three witnesses on video and there are supposed to be more, up to ten. Plus we have video from the top of the water tower, a black dot moving and wobbling, very blurry but supportive of what the witnesses said.
However – and this I what I’ve checked out personally – it is impossible that the gunman (?) on the water tower hit Trump because the line of sight is blocked by the jumbotron Trump is pointing at from time to time.
So if there was a gunman on the water tower (and I for myself find this quite plausible), the question is if he shoot at all, and if so, what shots can we associate with him.
Here’s another question: is there any evidence that a person was harmed by shots 4-8, the later shots? Given the density of the people on the bleachers, if they were fired at by Crookes as the gentlemen in the video suggest, it is highly unlikely that not one single guy was hit! Could have been a blood bath, actually.
These questions lead me to the hypothesis that the guy on the water tower shot Crookes shortly after he had fired his three shots. So Crookes: 1,2,3; Watertower guy: 4,5,6,7,8. Dead men tell no tales.
According to this hypothesis, there ought to have been three casings found on the roof, the ones fired by Crookes. But they found eight. However: why did Cheatle deny to answer when she was asked how many casings had been found on the roof? And why considered the questioner this so important? My guess: there is some discrepancy with regard to the number, and if there is one guy among the many who visited the roof found less than eight – than Crookes fired less than eight shots, and there must have been a second shooter.

Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2024 18:10 utc | 36

@too scents | Jul 24 2024 14:45 utc | 3:

Ukraine folding before the elections would deprive Trump of his “peacemaker” talisman, unless you believe he can sell peace in Palestine.
It is in Trump’s interest to continue the war on Ukraine through November.

It is precisely this kind of mentality that has deteriorated American politic over the past 70+ years. Political leaders’ decisions have been based on “what’s best for me personally“? instead of “what’s right morally? Or what’s best for our country” as the priority, with what’s best for me coming in second or may be even lower. I can understand this attitude for common folk individuals, since the impacts of their decisions bears only on small groups of others, but political leaders must be held to much higher standards for the betterment of the nation.
I’m not picking on you personally, too scents, I’m just using your statements to lament the fact that the moral standards of our politics have gone so abysmal. Sad! In my memory, even the most moral-minded President Jimmy Carter could not totally shake this characterization.
So, Trump wants another 40K Ukies/Ruskies to perish so that he can claim credit to being the “peacemaker” talisman. I rather think you’re right, too scents. I also think this sickness in the Empire’s politics is what made possible the Zionists’ control over our national politics.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 24 2024 18:10 utc | 37

Remember in another time when the whole world stopped for the Olympics – back when they were an amateur event? Neoliberalism destroys all it touches, like King Midas in reverse, all it touches turns to shit. In this case besides economic woes I bet there’s an instinctive, unorganized boycott and a general level of disgust with all things over-hyped.

People don’t want to see the Olympics, many tickets for the 2024 Olympics remain unclaimed – Financial Times
“More than a quarter of a million unclaimed tickets remain in Paris, which means there will be many empty seats at the opening ceremony on Friday”
There is a lack of demand on the secondary market, although the organizers are still selling tickets.
Users on Reddit also note that they cannot find buyers.
“>https://t.me/myLordBebo/38544

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 18:16 utc | 38

The German electorate MUST remove this (US) Israeli puppet from office come election time he and his party of coalition are propping up a Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine and aiding and abetting (by supporting) a genocide in Gaza.
Not only that but his party of coalition is sending billions of Euros to these awful regimes which in effect it is stealing the vast amounts of public money from the German public its money that should be used to help Germans.
“German Chancellor Olaf Scholz (Social Democratic Party, SPD) has announced his intention to run for the next term as head of the German government in the 2025 election.
“The SPD is a very unified party,” Scholz told reporters at a summer press conference in Berlin. He added that his faction intends to win the 2025 federal election. “I will run for office to become chancellor again,” Scholz declared.
The next Bundestag (German parliament) election will be held in 2025. It will result in the formation of a new government under a new chancellor. Scholz had earlier announced his desire to run as an SPD candidate again. He currently heads the coalition government, which, apart from the SPD, includes the Greens and the Free Democratic Party. The SPD’s rating currently stands at 14-16%.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2024 18:20 utc | 39

So as we know ther is a very large anti netinyahoo protest on going.
They want netinyahoo aressted for war crimes and genicide.
Netinyahoo is due to adress the senate.
Kamalia Harris wont be presant, (a snub)
Netinyahoo is due for a cosey chat with trump at ma largo.
Im begining to like kamila Harris., a lot.
Draw ya own comclusions.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 18:24 utc | 40

Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2024 18:10 utc | 36
A sniper commented that the Water Tower wouldn’t be conducive for the pro because of the exit. They prefer something like an ally in which they can drive in, shoot, then easily drive away.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 24 2024 18:25 utc | 41

“Im begining to like kamila Harris., a lot.
Draw ya own comclusions.”
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 18:24 utc | 40
I have: you are undeniably a moron.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 19:15 utc | 42

“@suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:46 utc | 20
This is how I understand it also. Crooks was the patsy and supposed “loner”. He did not shoot the 3 first shots, the first of which nearly killed Trump. He probably shot the next 5 shots that had a different signature and were fired rapidly.
The Agents on the roof behind Trump was observing in the direction of Crooks well before the first shot. I believe they were in on the plan, their job was to eliminate Crooks right after Trump had been hit.
Just a hypothesis, but it seems to be the scenario that makes sense and is supported by facts we now have.”
Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2024 17:09 utc | 27
I have to agree with your hypothesis.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 19:17 utc | 43

Netinyahoo is guilty of ‘barbarism’
And has now projected that on to Palistinians .
In a speech to US congress.
To loud cheering.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 19:24 utc | 44

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 24 2024 18:25 utc | 41
Agree.
The water tower is not a location for a 2nd shooter, even if a person was seen on it.
Videos clearly show that there is a line of large trees blocking the view of all but the top of the tower. No logical person would use an exposed structure that tall and that hard to quickly get away from. Plus water towers move in the wind. Using a railing as a support would introduce another error, and for a longer bullet time of flight, hence less accuracy.
Also, the water tower is behind and to the right on Trump. Any overshot or left-right deviation would hit the reporters and audience in front of Trump. No such things were reported.
The shot that hit Trumps ear clearly could not have come from that direction.
An alternate situation is easy to understand.
First 3 shots from Crooks.
As he starts next salvo, he is hit by counter sniper, (recall he is a low profile target) maybe in the left shoulder area (counter sniper is to his left and slightly elevated) throwing his aim off during next set of shots.
The pause is due to counter sniper adjusting fire and making the head shot.
Video of the counter sniper shows that his attention was pulled away from the scope, then quickly returned before firing. A 1 second return for eyes on target before 1st shot would be enough for a small impact deviation. The head shot came after assessing target, or being told to assure target was eliminated.
Any true sonic investigation must account for:
The metal roof being only inches away from Crooks muzzle.
The large hanging screens acting as reflectors (with small delays to any microphone) from both guns.
The difference in muzzle sounds, as counter sniper clearly had a suppressor installed.
There are still so many things that haven’t been released.
Was Crooks gun (illegally) modified to automatic?
How many casings were found fired from his gun?
Did the counter sniper fire more than once?
Does the Pennsylvania State Police on site have any comms recording?
Do the county police have any comms recording?
How many cell phone recordings are there, and is anyone trying to review them as a composite, based on their location?

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 24 2024 19:25 utc | 45

canuck @ 42

I have: you are undeniably a moron.

School is pretty much mandatory across the planet, there are good and bad schools everywhere you go, but nowhere even in poorest remote African village is there a school so bad as to produce a Mark2.
I think like vargas Mark2 is an AI. If you are striving to achieve ultimate verisimilitude across the entire society then you must develop a Moron AI, otherwise how do you apply the Turing Test to morons?
Surely trolling, vargas with naivete as the gimmick, Mark2 with brainless as the gimmick. Makes yah miss Zanon.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 19:30 utc | 46

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 24 2024 17:17 utc | 28
##########
I am a proud conspiracy theorist. I’m also a believer, so I believe everything happens for a reason.
It is hard for me to identify with “intelligent” people whose worldview consists of a belief in an endless series of accidents.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 19:38 utc | 47

@BroncoBilly
As I said, it is impossible that a sniper on the water tower hit Trump. No disagreement her.
However this sniper would have an excellent view on Crookes, much better then the snipers on the roof near Trump. And the distance is fairly short.

Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2024 19:40 utc | 48

Oliver Krug | Jul 24 2024 16:05 utc | 10
It is not known whether the children were aware of the meaning of the symbol
WTF! The swastika is plastered all over German media. Like on the cover of the May 18, 2024 issue of Der Spiegel.
Apparently, prosecution of such is selective. Here’s C.J.Hopkins…

Posted by: john | Jul 24 2024 19:49 utc | 49

Im begining to like kamila Harris., a lot.”
Draw ya own comclusions.

The obvious conclusion is that the poster is a paid dembot, and the spelling errors are deliberate (try posting with spelling errors yourself, dear reader, and see why the fraudulent poster cannot possibly be accidentally making the spelling errors).
We are stuck with these paid dembots until November, I am afraid. But at least after that point we won’t see most of them again for another few years, just like we didn’t see the above referenced dembot until election marketing season started.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 24 2024 19:52 utc | 50

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 24 2024 19:52 utc | 50
No, mark 2 is just mark 2. Because pf his spelling I always imagine him as a guy with MS in a wheelchair who would show up to protests periodically.
He never said anything interesting or original, and was hard to understand, but he was there, so you humored him.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 20:02 utc | 51

William Gruff @ 50
Why would a dembot impersonate an idiot, think about it? Agree about the spellchecking, the misspellings are intentional. It’s just the free beer and piazza entry level psyops brigade trolling to keep the discussions aimless and argumentative to chase away any interested newcomers. And I’m participating, so, last from me on this.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 20:06 utc | 52

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 19:30 utc | 46
I miss Circe.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 24 2024 20:10 utc | 53

WELT.DE 24.7.
PIRNA, SACHSEN
Grundschüler sollen Hakenkreuze aus Bausteinen gelegt haben
Stand: 19:26 Uhr
In einem Hort einer Grundschule im sächsischen Pirna sollen Kinder Hakenkreuze gelegt haben. Die Polizei hat ein Ermittlungsverfahren eingeleitet. Da die Kinder strafunmündig sind, entscheidet die Staatsanwaltschaft über dessen Fortgang.
In einem Grundschulhort in Pirna sollen vier Kinder im Alter von 9 bis 11 Jahren mit Bausteinen und Kieseln Hakenkreuze gelegt haben. Mitarbeiter des Horts hätten die Polizei zeitnah informiert, teilte ein Sprecher der Polizei am Mittwoch mit.
Der Vorfall habe sich bereits am 5. Juli ereignet. Die Polizei hat den Angaben nach ein Ermittlungsverfahren wegen des Verwendens von Kennzeichen verfassungswidriger Organisationen eingeleitet.
Da die Kinder jedoch strafunmündig sind, entscheidet die Staatsanwaltschaft über eine mögliche Fortsetzung des Verfahrens. Details zum Hintergrund des Vorfalls nannte die Polizei zunächst nicht. Zuerst hatte die „Sächsische Zeitung“ berichtet.
PIRNA, SAXONY
Elementary school students are said to have made swastikas out of building blocks
As of 7:26 p.m
Children are said to have laid swastikas in a primary school daycare center in Pirna, Saxony. The police have launched an investigation. Since the children are not of criminal responsibility, the public prosecutor’s office will decide how to proceed.
In a primary school in Pirna, four children between the ages of 9 and 11 are said to have made swastikas using building blocks and pebbles. Employees at the after-school care center informed the police promptly, a police spokesman said on Wednesday.
The incident occurred on July 5th. According to information, the police have initiated an investigation into the use of license plates of unconstitutional organizations.
However, since the children are not of criminal responsibility, the public prosecutor’s office decides whether the proceedings should be continued. The police initially did not provide any details about the background to the incident. The “Sächsische Zeitung” first reported. (Google transl)

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jul 24 2024 20:14 utc | 54

Anyone see a water tower in this video?
Blocked by the trees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p83EykEcyBI

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 24 2024 20:24 utc | 55

3 months away from the presedential election and trump has already lost. Some people on this blog are so devorced from reality they are way behind events.
Kamila Harris has now acumulated 4 major voting blocks, and you guys will only be able to think of two.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 20:25 utc | 56

LightYearsFromHome @52: ” Why would a dembot impersonate an idiot…”
Because impersonating someone more intelligent than oneself is difficult to do, and paid dembots are not paid enough for that level of difficulty. It is easier to pretend to be less intelligent, though in this particular dembot’s case there is not much room to maneuver.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 24 2024 20:47 utc | 57

USA is out of fashion in China.
Somebody posted an excellent article about ot a couple weeks ago, regarding Starbucks ans Nike having their lunches eaten by chinese domestic brands.
Now, in todays massive market slump, LVMH of all brands helped bring it on. (Along with GOOG and TSLA).
LVMH makes high end bags and fashion, (Louis Vuitton), but their earnings call yesterday noted a major slump in Chinese demand this quarter.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 20:51 utc | 58

beautiful… made a longer post in response to suzan and poof – gone… i guess it will show up later in about this spot…
@ LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 19:30 utc | 46
good post.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2024 20:52 utc | 59

Here ist the water tower visible
https://x.com/AngelElitism/status/1814019173741191266/photo/2
The trees are not the problem. It’s the billboard that blocks the line of sight to Trump.

Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2024 20:53 utc | 60

i will repost it again if it shows up.. thanks suzan..

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2024 20:54 utc | 61

Posted by: john | Jul 24 2024 19:49 utc | 49
This Germany, with its morally superior residents, is proud of itself – and the whole world should be able to admire that.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jul 24 2024 20:55 utc | 62

3 months away from the presedential election and trump has already lost. Some people on this blog are so devorced from reality they are way behind events.
Kamila Harris has now acumulated 4 major voting blocks, and you guys will only be able to think of two.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 20:25 utc | 56
So, the media tells us, Mark.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 24 2024 21:01 utc | 63

William Gruff @ 57

Because impersonating someone more intelligent than oneself is difficult to do

LOL, you got me there.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 24 2024 21:04 utc | 64

On the evening news on ARTE: A Shiite mosque in Hamburg has been raided by police and shut down for “preaching violence.”
Wikipedia already has the story:
_________________________________
“In 2016, IZH members took part in an anti-Israel protest in Berlin where Israel was denounced as an “enemy of humanity” and “terrorist”, which became part of the long-standing public debate on Islamic community organisations in Germany.[2]
Omid Nouripour, the leader of Germany’s Green Party, had called for the closure of the Islamic Center in Hamburg, which he described as a “spy nest”.[3]
The centre was raided on July 24, 2024 and closed by order of Germany’s Interior Minister Nancy Faeser, after months of investigating its connections to the designated terrorist group Hezbollah.[4] According to the German Minister of the Interior, the centre was used by the Iranian government to propagate its totalitarian Islamist ideology.[5] Some experts, including Ulrike Becker, emphasised the delay in closing it down because the organisation represented “a danger to internal security and in particular to Iranians in exile and Jews”[6].

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jul 24 2024 21:07 utc | 65

The Crowdstrike problem probably also helped to delete evidence about the put option manipulations against Trump.

Posted by: Lysias | Jul 24 2024 21:18 utc | 66

“”. . . . The Trump campaign filed a complaint with the FEC Monday over the move, which could force the commission to at least consider whether the change is in compliance with the law and make a ruling.
“Kamala Harris is in the process of committing the largest campaign finance violation in American history and she is using the Commission’s own forms to do it,” the complaint states. “The Commission must not and cannot sit idly by while one candidate takes nearly one hundred million dollars from the authorized committee of another, in violation of the Act and the will of the donors who gave the money in the first place.”
“Kamala Harris were a candidate for something in 2024, federal law requires her to have filed a Statement of Candidacy and for her name to have appeared in the name of her authorized committee. But Kamala Harris’s name does not appear in the name of her purported authorized committee, ‘Biden for President,’ and, until Sunday, no Statement of Candidacy existed for her. Then Sunday, rather than filing her own Statement of Candidacy, she merely altered Joe Biden’s to replace his name with hers. There is no mechanism under the Act for one individual to end another’s federal candidacy by simply amending the other’s Form 2. Moreover, in that purported amended Form 2 Harris designated ‘Biden for President’ as her principal campaign committee and then renamed it. Altering a document submitted to a federal agency is a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1519.3,” it continues, arguing the transfer is, “a brazen money grab that would constitute the single largest excessive contribution and biggest violation in the history of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended.”
“”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2024/07/24/harris-campaign-likely-breaking-federal-election-law-do-they-care-n2642445

” House Democrats are now trying to silence me as @FEC Chairman for raising questions about President Biden giving VP Harris all of his campaign cash. All I did was quote federal regulations.
Why are Democrats afraid of the law? pic.twitter.com/pYPJOSkPbh
— Sean Cooksey (@SeanJCooksey) July 23, 2024 ”

Posted by: Fíréan | Jul 24 2024 21:20 utc | 67

Reportedly the US congress applauded 50 times during 60 minutes of Netanyahu’s speech. At one point they started almost applauding again and Netanyahu told them ‘no no don’t applaud, listen…’. That’s right, shut up and listen you bootlickers.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 24 2024 21:23 utc | 68

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 20:25 utc | 56
AHHHHHH
MY EYES-so rude to the innocent readers!
back to scrolling from the bottom~

Posted by: furies | Jul 24 2024 21:23 utc | 69

Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2024 20:53 utc | 60
It’s both trees and large screen.
The video shows the TOP of the tower, not the catwalk you can actually stand on, which is around the bottom of the tank, some 20 ft lower. Which you can’t see in this video due to the…trees.
QED

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 24 2024 21:24 utc | 70

Ahh we have a cluster of knuckle dragging US banderite trump suppoters on the thread.
A good advertisment for the democrats if ever ther was one.
Over the last weeks they dropped their sham support for Palistine and Russia. Comeing out all maga. Exceptionalism .
Note the names folks every last one a hypocrite.
Very brave in a bunch.
Bully boy cowards.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 21:25 utc | 71

Posted by: suzan | Jul 24 2024 16:19 utc | 13
Thank you. It was 17 years ago. My partner has never quite recovered, but she found respite working with children. It’s her I worry about mostly. The images coming out of Gaza have affected me and brought back a lot of sadness. I’d love to hear about humans flourishing but everywhere I look I just see domination, exploitation and sorrow.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 24 2024 21:36 utc | 72

@BroncoBilly
The videos show the suspicious object right on top of the tower.
Anyway, we agree that whoever that was didn’t shoot at Trump, so let’s leave it like that.

Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2024 21:37 utc | 73

What the Ukraine War has exposed is the reality of a near peer to peer conflict, with colossal rates of use of munitions and extremely high levels of attrition of equipment and soldiers. It has also shown that the West is incapable of meeting Russia’s, let alone China’s, ability to utilize its manufacturing ability to massively ramp up weapons and munitions production at reasonable cost. In addition, Western nations do not have any history or acceptance of large-scale troop losses since WW2 and possibly the Korean War. For the US in particular, the Korean (34,000 dead) and Vietnam (50,000 dead) conflicts had a full-war loss that is less than sustained by Ukraine per month. Even the US WW2 deaths of 400,000 would be equalled within half a year or so in Ukraine.
That is why the Ukrainian War will stay as one predominantly “to the last Ukrainian”, with some limited Western losses from “sheep-dipped” soldiers and “advisors” and “trainers”. The Western leaders may wail and scream as Russia continues to destroy the Ukrainian armed forces, but they will not pick a direct fight with Russia – as they pull back their threats again and again. In the end, Ukraine will have to accept Russia’s terms. The Telegraph is currently doing some ineffectual huffing and puffing:
Military intervention in Ukraine is now essential
The same logic applies in spades to any possible China-West war in the South China Sea, as China would be fighting with everything it has from its home bases, while the West would be fighting from very long logistic lines and from highly exposed bases and naval vessels. In addition, China possesses half of the world’s manufacturing industry, and would be at least aided by Russia and the North Korean MIC. So the US politicians will huff and puff but they will not start a war with China, and in the end China will patiently await Taiwan accepting its terms; which it eventually will.
The only real risk of a wider war is from the religious lunatics and crooks who rule the Zionist regime and own much of the US political class. Every day they step closer to the suicidal step of war with Hezbollah and the wider Middle East, as their only other option is de-escalation and personal failure and probable imprisonment. They have no ethics, as Netanyahu shows in his blatant lying to Congress about stories that have been utterly debunked in the Israeli media while his dutiful penguin-like US politicians applaud with deference.
I cover these topics in more details in my piece The Realities of Peer to Peer Modern Warfare: Back to the Future
As for the US election, the polls purporting to show Harris leading Trump are highly suspect and part of a general media campaign to push Harris as “inevitable”. Her history provides a colossal source of ammunition for Trump, and her personal appearances are so gaff-prone they sometimes made the dementia-addled Biden look good. Here is a good analysis using an average of polls, including state level polls. Harris can tot up as many votes a she likes on the West Coast and in the North East but that wont win her all the states she needs.
2024 Election Map Based On NEWLY RELEASED POLLING AVERAGES | Harris vs Trump Trump 313 vs Harris 225 in the Electoral College.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 24 2024 21:49 utc | 74

@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 24 2024 21:01 utc | 63
You would think that Mark2 would be an improvement over Mark1, but alas no….

Posted by: Roger | Jul 24 2024 21:50 utc | 75

“3 months away from the presedential election and trump has already lost. Some people on this blog are so devorced from reality they are way behind events.
Kamila Harris has now acumulated 4 major voting blocks, and you guys will only be able to think of two.”
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 20:25 utc | 56
Hey Mark 2fer put your money where your mouth is: I wager you Trump wins and I’ll give you 2-1 odds.
If you don’t have any cash, which seems likely as you are a delusional moron, we can bet for pride.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 22:20 utc | 76

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 24 2024 14:42 utc | 2
You might be interested to know US Treasury OFAC began 23 July to collect data from banks to populate just such a registry. Notice of Reporting Instructions under the Rebuilding Economic Prosperity and Opportunity for Ukrainians Act (REPO). The form defines personal identifiers and several asset classes.
This public announcement purporting to be specifically related to CBR property, indicates to me that the Price Cap Coalition has not actually accounted for the value of “frozen” CBG assets. That is, they’ve estimated the total value based on small sample(s) somewhere at some time that is likely not current. Now, they’ve somehow cached the first € 1.5B of so-called windfall profits from Euroclear, it’s highly likely one or more auditors are questioning the assumptions on which successful “asset mobilisation” to finance the NATO-RU war rely—not only quantity of cash equivalents but their marketable value today and NPV 5+ years from now.
All in all, I’m inclined to believe, the EC official denial (above) signifies a parallel process.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 24 2024 22:22 utc | 77

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 22:20 utc | 76
As I posted in another thread, I think dnc candidate “wins” no matter who it is.
Basically deep state is going to choose continue two fronts instead of give up Ukraine and focus on Israel…
…assuming the two wars look similar to what they do now on election day.
A remark on the wisdom of the decision, The native saying, ” if you chase two rabbits you will lose them both”.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 22:30 utc | 78

Posted by: Fíréan | Jul 24 2024 21:20 utc | 67
###########
LOL at all of the bar patrons treating this upcoming election as something that conforms to laws and deserves our legitimate interest and attention.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2024 22:31 utc | 79

I ll rephraze my question, as it was too difficult so people thought that I was an AI bot:
How does deep state manage to control the western economy but cannot control political dynamics around Joe Biden? This should be a simpler proces.

Posted by: vargas | Jul 24 2024 22:45 utc | 80

“@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 24 2024 21:01 utc | 63
You would think that Mark2 would be an improvement over Mark1, but alas no….”
Posted by: Roger | Jul 24 2024 21:50 utc | 75
The Mark 1 , Mark 2 phenomenon is eerily reminiscent of movie sequels where-with the notable exception of Star Trek 2, ‘Wrath of Khan’-they have been disappointing.
Though there is a critical difference: the sequels in the movies were done to exploit the success of the original film; while Mark 1 was a complete flop, the only reason that Mark 2 has manifested is that it costs nothing to mount a post, as well as b’s idea of non censorship which sentiment I heartily respect.
Though I have noticed that Mark 2 is duplicitous: sometimes his grammar, spelling is atrocious yet some posts are well written-such that, it clearly illustrates that Mark 2 is not honest to his readers and, by extension, he is not honest to himself.
A pitiable creature.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 22:46 utc | 81

“I think dnc candidate “wins” no matter who it is.
Basically deep state is going to choose continue two fronts instead of give up Ukraine and focus on Israel…”
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 22:30 utc | 78
I think Trump will win, because deep state recognizes the need to keep the populace believing that Our Democracy still works, despite so many millions of people believing that 2020 electio was stolen. Also, to keep the populace believing that the figureheads of both D and R factions make a huge difference in foreign policy.
Also, the Dems didn’t seem to clap loud and long enough during the Netanyahu speech, but the Repubs did. But you might be right.

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 24 2024 22:47 utc | 82

From what i’m hearing netinyahoo is probably in the US pleadig for refugee status as an asylum seeker.
All branches of the israel armend forces have signed an open letter to the kensit demanding netinyahoo resigns. A very daming letter indeed. Stating they have no confidence in netinyahoo, the war or how it was started.
Will netinyahoo even want to return, or be allowed to.
Even the top names of mossad signed it.
Dead man walking.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 22:54 utc | 83

“Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 22:20 utc | 76
As I posted in another thread, I think dnc candidate “wins” no matter who it is.
Basically deep state is going to choose continue two fronts instead of give up Ukraine and focus on Israel…
…assuming the two wars look similar to what they do now on election day.
A remark on the wisdom of the decision, The native saying, ” if you chase two rabbits you will lose them both”.”
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 22:30 utc | 78
In my opinion , Biden didn’t get ‘railroaded’ because of his disastrous debate performance, it was because , around the same time, the Biden Whitehouse told Netanyahu that they would support the Lebanon invasion then Biden was immediately ‘out’ as they-the Anglo/Zionists- felt Trump would be more malleable.
Trump will be sensible in the Ukraine theater but the ME, I am a bit worried that he is too pro Zionist but I do have hope he can control the Genocide-we will see.
Trump will win the election everything being equal but 4 months is a long time in politics…

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 23:04 utc | 84

Just a reminder…
I was one of the very few on this blog who correctly forcast a win for the democrats in the last presidential election. The old time commenters here who supported trump then and now are pathtic grudge holders putting there own hurt pride before world polatics and peace and reality.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 23:06 utc | 85

In my opinion , Biden didn’t get ‘railroaded’ because of his disastrous debate performance, it was because , around the same time, the Biden Whitehouse told Netanyahu that they would support the Lebanon invasion then Biden was immediately ‘out’ as they-the Anglo/Zionists- felt Trump would be more malleable.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 23:04 utc | 84
How does that make sense? It would only make sense if Biden opposed israel invading Lebanon.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 23:10 utc | 86

“The obvious conclusion is that the poster is a paid dembot, and the spelling errors are deliberate (try posting with spelling errors yourself, dear reader, and see why the fraudulent poster cannot possibly be accidentally making the spelling errors).”
We are stuck with these paid dembots until November, I am afraid.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 24 2024 19:52 utc | 50
I see another possibility. Mark2 is deliberately stupid to make it look like anyone who “hates Trump” looks stupid by association, often alcohol- or drug-addled. Sort of “reverse psychology”. I don’t know. “He” rarely, if ever, posts anything persuasive.

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 24 2024 23:13 utc | 87

Eli Crane (R-AZ) Plays Video Of Trump Shooting Site, Asks PA Police Commish About Second Shooter Theory
Crane is a former U$ military sniper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4mkaa4WSiY
Water tower:
Is the child’s play obvious 360 overwatch position.
There most likely was a guy with a gun placed there, but I don’t subscribe to the theory he shot at Trump, or Patsy.
Patsy
Was shot in the back of the neck. – shot from behind, thus not from the water tower.
In other places there’s been extensive detailed discussion of the blood congealed on his face. And what the congealed blood indicates about position of body at time of dead.
A graphic, close up pic of dead Patsy was posted to XtwiterX, but was removed (because “community standards”, but really because it blows narratives).
At some point after Patsy was neutralised, guys in camo and wearing headcams, got on the roof, moved the body, handcuffed him from behind, and moved the rifle some 2-3 metres from the body, but left it lying on the roof.
In any tv show I’ve ever watched, this is “tampering with the crime scene” and is supposed to be a Big No No.
But fuck best practice investigation techniques – no need for that in Bumfuk Penn, amirite?
Bodycam
We have the 3mins of bodycam with the cluesless suited SS guy on the roof. Patsy is dead, off to bodycam right. The blood the FBI will soon and quickly pressure wash off the roof, is seeping down the scarily sloped roof.
Clueless SS suit is trying to assess the situation. He’s talking with the guys with headcams. These guys on the roof have also been photographed from ground-level by rally goers. They are seen standing directly over Patsy, and one cop is laughing. It’s these guys, presumably, who photographed Patsy’s dead, blood covered face, and circulated the image, which appeared in under 1hour on XtwitterX and 4chan. That’s not “best practice”, posting gore to social media?
What we need is earlier bodycam from these guys, as they gain access to the roof and handcuff Patsy.
In the bodycam discussion with suited clueless SS guy, SS guy talks and gestures the govt (I’m not sure if SS or other agency) snipers in position in windows on the second floor, overlooking Patsy’s rooftop, and with a direct line of sight to Trump.
Suited clueless SS guy refers to the sniper positioned in the closest window as “Greg”. Also, the rooftop gaggle say “Michelle” will be able to confirm Greg was stationed in that window.
Congress critters are doing a B+ job of asking questions, but internet sleuths and Real Crime aficionados are doing AAA+ job with questions, and then doing Gods Work in finding answers. Answers, most of which raise even more questions about the SS, ATF, FBI and the swarm of other LEO involved.
Crowdstrike.
Yes. The global down was to scrub the short selling by Austin Private Wealth and others.
But the comms from those on ground during the Trump attempt needed a scrub also.
Someone gave the “GoGoGo” to the sniper in the second floor window.
Someone gave the “shooter down” to the SS detail dog-piled on Trump.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2024 23:15 utc | 88

I’m glad to disapoint you guys….
America and its polatians dont get a say in the outcome of the war against Russia in ukraine, you lost.
You dont get a say in the outcome in palistine. You lost that.
But you americans are to thick to know it.
To self obssesed and narsasistic.
The good news is your too thick to be hurt by my insulting you.
Pack ya guns and go home. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 23:19 utc | 89

“In my opinion , Biden didn’t get ‘railroaded’ because of his disastrous debate performance, it was because , around the same time, the Biden Whitehouse told Netanyahu that they would support the Lebanon invasion then Biden was immediately ‘out’ as they-the Anglo/Zionists- felt Trump would be more malleable.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 23:04 utc | 84
How does that make sense? It would only make sense if Biden opposed Israel invading Lebanon.”
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 23:10 utc | 86
You are correct-I mistyped- I meant to say the Biden administration opposed the Lebanon invasion which led to the coup.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 23:32 utc | 90

Kamalia Harris wont be presant, (a snub)
Netinyahoo is due for a cosey chat with trump at ma largo.
Im begining to like kamila Harris., a lot.
Draw ya own comclusions.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 18:24 utc | 40
______
I’m sure that “kamila” wants you to think that she isn’s a slave to Bibi.
It’s the old rope-a-dope “hope and change” act all over again, and the desperate and the gullible just keep falling for it.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 24 2024 23:34 utc | 91

Canuck @ 90
LOL

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 23:38 utc | 92

You are correct-I mistyped- I meant to say the Biden administration opposed the Lebanon invasion which led to the coup.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 23:32 utc | 90
My bad, I was not aware he did.
We’ll just have to wait and see who deep state picks this time.
There is the third option, “delayed” elections, due to some emergency… Like Kamala having an accident in sept or oct.
I mean, yeah, legal challenges, but government does as it pleases, shoots first asks questions later, as all flagrant violations of the constitution just get a stern lecture, if even overturned, months or years after the damage has been done.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 23:40 utc | 93

Hey Mark 2fer put your money where your mouth is: I wager you Trump wins and I’ll give you 2-1 odds.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 24 2024 22:20 utc | 76
Aren’t you one of those folks that argues the US balloting is rigged against Trump?
How can you bet contrary to your own convictions?
The powerful elite in the US don’t really care who wins, but so many think they do and vote based on what they think the TPTB don’t want.
_________________________________________________________________________
Ahh we have a cluster of knuckle dragging US banderite trump suppoters on the thread.
A good advertisment for the democrats if ever ther was one.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 21:25 utc | 71
The same could be said for the Democrats. They’re the best advertisement for the Republicans.
The choices the US voters are given today are worse than they have ever have been and yet almost none of the voters consider voting for someone else besides the candidates that the TPTB offer them.

Posted by: jinn | Jul 24 2024 23:41 utc | 94

If there was more than one shooter in Butler, PA then why (or how) did they miss?
I have yet to see any compelling evidence for this claim about Crooks’ phone data as well. Does anyone have up-to-date links on that line of investigation? For one thing, how would this third party non-governmental group possibly have obtained his cell phone/browser/location/ad-serve data?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2024 23:41 utc | 95

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 24 2024 23:13 utc | 87
I think it’s a combination. Mark2 is using diction and grammar at MoA which makes him untraceable using ‘social engineering’ to other places. Also the “I’m not an American” act doesn’t ring true. Seems like the opposite to me. You don’t encounter many Trump haters from other NATO countries, other than banderites. Usually people in other places either have no opinion on Trump or they seem to like him.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2024 23:44 utc | 96

Malenov @ 91
Your probably right but im neiver deperate or gulible.
I’m stratejic and tacticle.
Dont expect miricals !
It’s push back againist the far right extremists in america, england europe else where and on this very blog.
One step at a time, one step at a time.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 23:46 utc | 97

You don’t encounter many Trump haters from other NATO countries, other than banderites. Usually people in other places either have no opinion on Trump or they seem to like him.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2024 23:44 utc | 96
???
Trump is probably hated just as much, in the anglophone west, at least.
I dont know about non-anglophone.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 23:47 utc | 98

I’m stratejic and tacticle.
Dont expect miricals !
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 24 2024 23:46 utc | 97
This must have been written in crayon.
Anybody catch that post where he corrected the spelling of one of his previous posts? LoL? He actually did it once, for god knows what reason.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 23:51 utc | 99

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 24 2024 23:47 utc | 98
Maybe in the UK, but I’d need to see some data (as if any exists). My anecdotal experience with people in the EU and Canada is that they’re usually either neutral or like him (often in a strange fawning way, as if they could vote for him or something).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2024 23:54 utc | 100