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July 17, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-170
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Hope your keeping well b and enjoying some well earned down time, as i am. Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 17 2024 16:45 utc | 1 With regards to the “immigration question.” Posted by: Tichy | Jul 17 2024 16:59 utc | 2 Has anyone put eyes on Maxwell Yearick since the shooting? The fact checkers aren’t even trying to establish an alibi for him, they just say ‘debunked. Authorities have identified Crooks as the shooter.’ Posted by: Honzo | Jul 17 2024 17:07 utc | 3 hello b Posted by: denk | Jul 17 2024 17:07 utc | 4
Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 17 2024 17:14 utc | 5 hello b Posted by: Tichy | Jul 17 2024 17:17 utc | 6 hello b Posted by: Not Ewe | Jul 17 2024 17:20 utc | 7 @4 Posted by: paddy | Jul 17 2024 17:21 utc | 8 @7 Posted by: paddy | Jul 17 2024 17:28 utc | 9 Trump is a New York liberal. Posted by: Polli | Jul 17 2024 17:29 utc | 10 … not planning to get too deep into the Trump thing … not until more comes out at least … but couldn’t let this pass …
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-07-17/roof-trump-gunman-used-was-not-manned-by-us-secret-service-for-safety-reasons Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 17 2024 17:32 utc | 11 Is it possible that there really was an Iranian assasination plot that the US government was aware of and the DHS Secretary deliberately made sure Trump’s security detail was underresourced? Maybe the DHS Secretary was hoping Iran would succeed and actively helping out? Posted by: isitpossible | Jul 17 2024 17:34 utc | 12 Whilst I’m not arguing for a straight up conspiracy (yet) as many seem to be Posted by: Tichy | Jul 17 2024 17:39 utc | 13 Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 17 2024 17:32 utc | 11 Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 17 2024 17:39 utc | 14 It was obviously an assassination attempt, with the Secret Service and cops ignoring a guy with a rifle, climbing a wall in plain sight, and getting to fire several shots at a Presidential candidate…Just a guy with a rifle would normally be arrested immediately… Posted by: pyrrhus | Jul 17 2024 17:43 utc | 15 abc.net.au/planetamerica, broadcast an extended edition on July 17. It explored several aspects of the Trump assassination attempt which don’t add up. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 17 2024 17:52 utc | 16 Was the kid father working for blackrock in addition to being pro nra and training him with firearms? Posted by: Minaa | Jul 17 2024 17:55 utc | 17 Posted by: Tichy | Jul 17 2024 17:17 utc | 6
LIke we’r cattles being shepherded from one crisis into another yet another, coming on fast furious. Posted by: denk | Jul 17 2024 17:56 utc | 18 Ursula von der Leyen’s bid for a second term as European Commission chief has been dealt a major blow Posted by: too scents | Jul 17 2024 18:00 utc | 19 The Magician’s Game is wrapped in Distraction. Part of that is active manipulation of perceptions and lots of ambiguity. REALLY, the details are unimportant. Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jul 17 2024 18:00 utc | 20 Has anyone heard more about Victoria Nuland’s supposed comment that Trump would never become President again and that were would be a big surprise coming for the Russians if they had plans for it? Nolan’s is known to hate Trump and Russia with a passion, but it seems odd that she would reuse the term big surprise after making it last year with respect to Russian military plans Posted by: Kadath | Jul 17 2024 18:12 utc | 21 Frauds and frame-ups have failed. Lawfare has failed. Assassination has failed. What is Plan D? Posted by: dearieme | Jul 17 2024 18:19 utc | 22 I did see a video of the shooter on the roof as he was taking aim. His face was obscured because he was aiming on the right side profile. Looked like long hair and thin scraggly beard. My opinion was that he did not look at all like Crooke. Maxwell Yearick fought in Ukraine. Trained in sniping I guess. Posted by: Angelo | Jul 17 2024 18:20 utc | 23 @ too scents | Jul 17 2024 18:00 utc | 19:
You’re right about barflies not catching important geopolitical news such as Von de Leyen’s confirmation bid in suspense while Z Hillbilly news catching all attention here. I’m guilty too:-). Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 17 2024 18:26 utc | 24 Posted by: Honzo | Jul 17 2024 17:07 utc | 3 Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 17 2024 18:27 utc | 25 China Ignorance on the Hill Posted by: lester | Jul 17 2024 18:29 utc | 26 Lunatic TDS victims tried to assassinated the Empire’s election front runner. Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along. Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 17 2024 18:29 utc | 27 @denk | Jul 17 2024 17:07 utc | 4: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 17 2024 18:34 utc | 28 this lady really needs to be fired… it also raises the much bigger issue of how DEI has messed up so many of the institutions and present day society we live in.. Posted by: james | Jul 17 2024 18:40 utc | 29 Yes, he is a White Supremacist/Sinophobe through and through. I reached that verdict myself over 10 years ago. Posted by: caphill | Jul 17 2024 18:45 utc | 30 May be we need a neither Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 18:53 utc | 31 Posted by: Not Ewe | Jul 17 2024 17:20 utc | 7 Posted by: badjoke | Jul 17 2024 18:53 utc | 32 SattaMassaGana | Jul 17 2024 17:32 utc | 11 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 18:55 utc | 33 I was looking at the photo of the ladder he used. Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 18:57 utc | 34 Frauds and frame-ups have failed. Lawfare has failed. Assassination has failed. What is Plan D? Posted by: Honzo | Jul 17 2024 19:01 utc | 35 Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 17 2024 18:34 utc | 28
Posted by: denk | Jul 17 2024 19:06 utc | 36 “It made no sense to remove Biden from the contest UNLESS they could also remove Trump.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 19:07 utc | 37 We are seeing incompetence everywhere in the west now, US taking the lead, and I think poor security at Trump rally was part of that. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 19:08 utc | 38 @caphill @30: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 17 2024 19:12 utc | 40 Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 18:53 utc | 31 Posted by: denk | Jul 17 2024 19:14 utc | 42 /appears at window sill Posted by: titmouse | Jul 17 2024 19:17 utc | 43 @ denk | Jul 17 2024 19:14 utc | 42 Posted by: james | Jul 17 2024 19:18 utc | 44 Posted by: isitpossible | Jul 17 2024 17:34 utc | 12 Posted by: eman | Jul 17 2024 19:19 utc | 45 Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 18:57 utc | 34 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 19:20 utc | 46 Posted by: james | Jul 17 2024 19:18 utc | 44 Posted by: denk | Jul 17 2024 19:25 utc | 47 RE: Trump shooting Posted by: team10tim | Jul 17 2024 19:33 utc | 49
Agreed. My reason for posting the quote was how nonsensical it is. To imply that Secret Service personnel who I would presume are highly trained in multiple deadly techniques as well as the use of various firearms are unable to cope with a slanted roof for fear of falling stumps me. And as you say. its immediately highlighted for the nonsense it is by simply looking over Trumps shoulder to see Secret Service personnel on a slanted roof. Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jul 17 2024 19:35 utc | 50 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 19:20 utc | 46 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 19:39 utc | 51 I’m not saying anyone will actually investigate, but one theoretical avenue is to look at say the last 10 or 20 Trump rallies (or events of that sort), and see whether some have similar security lapses (pointing to general competence issues), or whether this happened to be the exact one where a roof went uncovered, and lo and behold exactly the one where it got used by a sniper (pointing to a conspiracy). Posted by: MindTheSlant | Jul 17 2024 19:43 utc | 52 Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 19:39 utc | 51 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 19:43 utc | 53 Posted by: lester | Jul 17 2024 18:29 utc | 26 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 17 2024 19:44 utc | 54 I still think the kid acted on his own and Trump’s detail was incompetent. … Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 17 2024 19:44 utc | 55 Ursula von der Leyen’s bid for a second term as European Commission chief has been dealt a major blow Posted by: MindTheSlant | Jul 17 2024 19:47 utc | 56 fyi Northern vassal news: Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 17 2024 19:52 utc | 57 A bullit wound to the ear and not a speck of blood on a pure white coller directly below. Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 17 2024 19:53 utc | 58 The item that is being missed is that this whole site (where Trump gave his speech and the other businesses surrounding it) contains several commercial operations that had there own camera security. I didn’t say probably because this is standard business practice. Posted by: Jerr | Jul 17 2024 19:53 utc | 59 SattaMassaGana | Jul 17 2024 17:32 utc | 11 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jul 17 2024 19:55 utc | 60 “I mean, it’s normal to post over and over that something is a nonissue, right? Nothing suspicious about that at all.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 19:56 utc | 61 Xymphora has a link to Larry Johnson chatting with Pepe Escobar. Larry tells Pepe that the temperature on the roof was too hot (160 degrees) for the SS folks so they decided to monitor it from INSIDE the building. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 17 2024 20:02 utc | 62 Trumpista Jovan Pulitzer (inventor of Q-code) points out that the Trump hit was aired on all major networks live. I don’t know if this is an accurate statement, but if it is that is highly suspicious because none of the major networks, including Fox, cover Trump rallies live usually, it’s alternative places like Real America News or Republican Broadcasting Network (RBN) on Youtube, or Bannon’s WarRoom. It doesn’t even matter if it was setup or not – the point is you are looking where they want you to look. If you are talking about it then they win and the particular content of your act of service to empire is irrelevant. Posted by: Rae | Jul 17 2024 20:10 utc | 64 I think it’s more likely a unicorn is behind this attempt than Iran. Posted by: isitpossible | Jul 17 2024 20:10 utc | 65 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 19:43 utc | 53 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 20:15 utc | 66 Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 17 2024 19:12 utc | 40 Posted by: caphill | Jul 17 2024 20:17 utc | 67 “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News on Tuesday. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 17 2024 20:19 utc | 68 Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 17 2024 20:02 utc | 62 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 20:20 utc | 69 Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 20:15 utc | 66 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 20:25 utc | 70 For those arguing ”Let’s wait for more information to come out”, nothing that has been revealed since the first couple hours is of any value. The narrative management has long kicked into high gear. The further we get from the event, the less reliable the information will be. Just look at the attention MoA has gotten from the narrative managers, and realize the mass media has gotten similar narratives straight from Langley days ago. From this point forward we will get nothing but blown smoke. Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 17 2024 20:36 utc | 71 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 20:25 utc | 70 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 20:43 utc | 72 One thing that is of interest, at least to me, is what Trump is now saying about Taiwan. As in why should America protect it, if they want our protection they should pay for it. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 20:44 utc | 73 Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 19:56 utc | 61 Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 17 2024 20:44 utc | 74 It’s not impossible that there’s more to the ousting Biden faction than just worries over losing to Trump due to embarrassing feebleness, it could also be an uprising by some rational minded people in the DNC and the donor base, and maybe allies in the Pentagon, dissatisfied with the disaster in Ukraine. That would explain Biden’s reluctance to abdicate, it’s really his praetorian guard neocon clique that’s resisting and against all good sense has been trying to hide Biden’s precipitous decline, they sized up the forces aligned against them and realize if he goes they go and project Ukraine goes. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 17 2024 20:54 utc | 75 Its beginning to look like the Orange One’s assassination was planned, but by which group of people. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 17 2024 20:55 utc | 76 There’s a bit of a Doco on youtube. Part of a city, I forget which, is the goldsmiths and jewelers quarter. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 20:58 utc | 77 Peter AU1 @ 77 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 17 2024 21:09 utc | 78 From previous thread (Jul 17 2024 15:41 utc | 1091): Posted by: Naive | Jul 17 2024 21:15 utc | 79 I thought the last >1000 posts on the Trump assassination not unworthwhile, but another 1000 posts on the same would suck. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 21:20 utc | 80 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 17 2024 20:54 utc | 75 Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 17 2024 21:23 utc | 81 It is enough to read what wikipedia immediately jumped onto: Posted by: Naive | Jul 17 2024 21:26 utc | 82 1. The Probability, not absolute certainty, is that the American Blob/Deep Cesspool/criminal Mob shoehorned this 20 year punk as an assassin or decoy. Posted by: kupkee | Jul 17 2024 21:26 utc | 83 I believe I heard somebody say on George Galloway’s MOATS show on Sunday that Crooks was Jewish. I was initially inclined to discount the report. But on today’s MOATS program, I heard Galloway himself say more than once that Crooks was Jewish. Anybody know if it’s true? If it is, it is sure being covered up. Posted by: Lysias | Jul 17 2024 21:30 utc | 84 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 17 2024 21:09 utc | 78 Posted by: Naive | Jul 17 2024 21:31 utc | 85 “I think that’s pushing the incompetency explanation a little hard. Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 21:31 utc | 86 OOPS Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 21:33 utc | 87 But in any case I never consider him a insightful analyst, just a popular pundit, all those previous years. He only writes what he thought his audiences want to hear. It’s no different from most American politicians verbalizing what they think their target audiences want to hear. Posted by: NoName | Jul 17 2024 21:35 utc | 88 Italian-Russian commentator Nicolai Lilin on youtube is reporting that the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant is having serious issues that Ukraine is hiding. Russian attacks to the electricity infrastructure has forced Ukraine to shut down two reactors over power worries but the third is also having stability issues. Ukraine is reluctant to shut down the third one as it would cause widespread electricity loss, they’ve been delaying, hiding, and figuring the EU will step in and somehow take care of it all. Western media is uniformly dead silent. Lilin is being a bit alarmist saying it could devolve into a Chernobyl disaster but given the quality of leadership in both the Ukraine or EU it’s at least worth knowing about. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 17 2024 21:35 utc | 89 “They did a somewhat passable job of pilling on top of him. But not that good.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 21:36 utc | 90 Just in case you lack isomething to read or listen to … Posted by: suzan | Jul 17 2024 21:37 utc | 91 On top of that you failed to mention just how badly the SS team on stage handled the event. Posted by: Naive | Jul 17 2024 21:37 utc | 92 Events on the itinerary for the coming 12 months. First up is the last charge of the Euro brigade. After that the infighting in Europe begins. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 21:39 utc | 93 “Lilin is being a bit alarmist saying it could devolve into a Chernobyl disaster…” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 21:40 utc | 94 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 17 2024 21:39 utc | 93 Posted by: Naive | Jul 17 2024 21:42 utc | 95 Hoarsewhisperer @ 62 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 17 2024 21:42 utc | 96 “The US has held Taiwan since 1949 as that completes US control of the first island chain. Posted by: kupkee | Jul 17 2024 21:43 utc | 97 Posted by: Lysias | Jul 17 2024 21:30 utc | 84 Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Jul 17 2024 21:43 utc | 98 Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 17 2024 18:27 utc | 25 Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 17 2024 21:33 utc | 87 Posted by: Archetypex | Jul 17 2024 21:46 utc | 100 |
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