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July 14, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-167
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FWIIW, Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 14 2024 14:02 utc | 1 Hmmm…so the wannabee assassin moonlighted…in a Blackrock commercial Posted by: Mary | Jul 14 2024 14:02 utc | 2 Sloppy job, Mossad. Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:04 utc | 3 This attempt on Trump’s life show us how powerful and self confident is the global elite. They dont need to pretend any more, they would launch on Russia without thinking. Posted by: vargas | Jul 14 2024 14:06 utc | 4 I really believe the Trump ‘shooting’ was a put up job. Ears bleed quickly and dramatically however they are cut. Trump will get a huge boost from this for his campaign. The ‘shooter’ was killed so no-one can question them, and was there just one gunman? Remember the Burning of the Reichstag was a great boost for another tyrant. Posted by: Bill R | Jul 14 2024 14:07 utc | 5 The Company You Keep: Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump All Have Something in Common, They placed the Nation Above Their Own Well-Being. Posted by: Dogon Priest | Jul 14 2024 14:09 utc | 6 the deep state will not stop. trump’s gotta be kennedied. Posted by: andreweed | Jul 14 2024 14:15 utc | 7 “I really believe the Trump ‘shooting’ was a put up job. Ears bleed quickly and dramatically however they are cut.” Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:16 utc | 8 Almost without exception, MSM reporters are bemoaning the failed assassination attempt. Here is ‘El Hotzo’ on German public media broadcaster ARD. Posted by: unimperator | Jul 14 2024 14:17 utc | 9 TPTB are going crazy right now. Pretty much any footage or commentary that is not controlled by the legacy media is being taken down from the internet almost as soon as it goes up on certain platforms. Posted by: Monos | Jul 14 2024 14:26 utc | 10 Here is a thought. The Deep State now needs to get rid of Biden, he is damaged goods. If they can remove Trump also, even better. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 14 2024 14:28 utc | 11 Posted by: Bill R | Jul 14 2024 14:07 utc | 5 Posted by: Mary | Jul 14 2024 14:28 utc | 12 @unimperator Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:31 utc | 14 Most of the comments so far are delusional! Glad I don’t come here to often anymore. Posted by: David F | Jul 14 2024 14:33 utc | 15 @Apollyon #3 Posted by: Schindler | Jul 14 2024 14:33 utc | 16 @unimperator | Jul 14 2024 14:17 utc | 9:
You really have no clue what you’re talking about. Neither does your linked source. Posted by: dustbunny | Jul 14 2024 14:37 utc | 17 Remember the Burning of the Reichstag was a great boost for another tyrant. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 14 2024 14:40 utc | 18 Posted by: Schindler | Jul 14 2024 14:33 utc | 16 Posted by: Mary | Jul 14 2024 14:46 utc | 21 @ Schindler Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:46 utc | 22 Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:46 utc | 22 Posted by: Mary | Jul 14 2024 14:51 utc | 23 @Mary Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:52 utc | 24 You’d have trouble finding anyone who despises Trump more than I do. Yet I’m forced to admit: That fist pump, after getting shot, wow! Drunken barflies can make fools of themselves blathering about fake news all they like. Those bullets and bloodstains were real, baby. Real as it gets. Trump showed remarkable presence of mind with that instantly-legendary fist-pump in that moment. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 14 2024 15:00 utc | 25 #12 Mary Thanks. Posted by: paxmark1 | Jul 14 2024 15:00 utc | 26 That’s because the bullett came from the left, and if a person was hit, the person would be out of the frame on the right. The strange thing is, several shots were fired, but only one person was hit, although the ranks were filled with people. You would expect more people to be hit by a bullett. Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 15:04 utc | 27 @Schindler Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 15:05 utc | 28 Posted by: David F | Jul 14 2024 14:33 utc | 15 Posted by: Boo | Jul 14 2024 15:10 utc | 29 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/116326 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2024 15:11 utc | 30 “You’d have trouble finding anyone who despises Trump more than I do. Yet I’m forced to admit: That fist pump, after getting shot, wow! Drunken barflies can make fools of themselves blathering about fake news all they like. Those bullets and bloodstains were real, baby. Real as it gets. Trump showed remarkable presence of mind with that instantly-legendary fist-pump in that moment.” @paxmark1 | Jul 14 2024 15:00 utc | 26
Incorrect. Nisse vs. Troll. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 14 2024 15:15 utc | 32 Aleph Null @ 25 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 14 2024 15:17 utc | 33 Attempt at Trump could be real. If there’s more tries afterwards then it’s Democrats, if there’s none then it’s 3rd Party. Surviving assassination attempt is powerful visual. Posted by: Lucci | Jul 14 2024 15:19 utc | 34 Counter sniper seems to be zeroed in on him from before the first one is heard. Posted by: Lucci | Jul 14 2024 15:22 utc | 35 Aleks’ take on the attempted murder of Trump. Some interesting details about shooting techniques. Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 15:04 utc | 27 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 14 2024 15:25 utc | 37 Aleph_Null | Jul 14 2024 15:00 utc | 25 Posted by: john | Jul 14 2024 15:26 utc | 38 Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 14:31 utc | 14 Posted by: kspr | Jul 14 2024 15:27 utc | 39 The other open thread has swollen past 480 posts, largely from barflies preaching that you’re a fool to believe anything you hear from anyone, ever. (Just go with your hunches is the epistemological strategy, I suppose.) Meanwhile, my bet is the identity of the shooter will be largely irrelevant to ongoing events. Here’s the name to watch: Kimberly Cheatle, director of US Secret Service, as this writing. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 14 2024 15:27 utc | 40 This really must be considered in the light of the attempt on Fico’s life, as well. Trump and Fico both oppose, threaten the Ukraine project. Orban is now sure of the warning shots. Posted by: Hahajizzjizz | Jul 14 2024 15:28 utc | 41 Those bullets and bloodstains were real, baby. Real as it gets. Posted by: rk | Jul 14 2024 15:32 utc | 42 Not that anyone suggested this 10 days ago… Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 14 2024 15:32 utc | 43 @BillR #5 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2024 15:36 utc | 45 #12 Mary Thanks. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 15:37 utc | 46 /brambles lets out a cheep Posted by: titmouse | Jul 14 2024 15:40 utc | 47 Berletic does a nice job reviewing the security lapses, one thing I’ll add is that immediately after Trump ducks, the SS raises him up at the podium centering him right back in the bullseye. Maybe they got notice in their Matrix earpieces that the shooter was down, but you have to assume there’s a second shooter. I don’t rule out mass incompetence, it’s the zeitgeist of everything under neoliberalism, everything is dysfunctional, why shouldn’t presidential security be dysfunctional. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 14 2024 15:42 utc | 48 @Apollyon #22 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2024 15:42 utc | 49 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 14 2024 15:15 utc | 32 Posted by: KMRIA | Jul 14 2024 15:43 utc | 50 How is it that this unknown unemployed 20 year old living with his parents had his DNA on file in a F B I biometric data base?? Posted by: Jerr | Jul 14 2024 15:45 utc | 51 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 14 2024 15:25 utc | 37 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 14 2024 15:45 utc | 52 At the moment there are two ongoing wars (against Syria, Israel against Palestines), one proxy war (Ukraine against Russia), one or two wars in the making (one against Iran, another Philippines or Taiwan against China) and a conflict (Yemen). There is also an ever-growing list of color revolutions that treat ally and foe alike (Turkey, Kazakhstan); Georgia is said to be next. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 14 2024 15:45 utc | 53 Attempt at Trump could be real. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 15:46 utc | 54 My conspiratorial two cents, funny how all the lone wolf assassins though modern western history always reinforce the status quo, it’s never a revolutionary act. There’s only one way to make sense out of that. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 14 2024 15:47 utc | 55 It is amazing how quickly the MSM pushed the narative of downplaying the failed atentate. Almost instantly, a lot of trolls appeared in the comment sections all over the world. Troll farms or AI. Who knows? Posted by: Grey Cloud | Jul 14 2024 15:50 utc | 56 At the last US presidential debate Trump bragged about ordering the successful assassination attempt of Qassem Soleimani. None of the American media commenters of the Trump assassination attempt have mentioned Trump’s crime or that all US presidents since at least W. Bush have planned meetings at the White House to identify targets and order their assassination. Posted by: Keme | Jul 14 2024 15:52 utc | 57 Posted by: Hahajizzjizz | Jul 14 2024 15:28 utc | 41 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 14 2024 15:52 utc | 58 The honest trolls, I call those who do not write rubbish for money, that is do not work for DNC or some related criminal gang. You need to understand that the words that you write come out of your own brain and they have nothing to do with objective reality. You use the fist pump as a proof that this was staged exactly because you are cowards who completely cannot understand that someone could show true bravery under fire, such reaction is completely foreign to you who would cower for safety behind the SS garbage in a true situation, just like the Congress critters did even without any real danger. That is – you just self project in your words. Posted by: Kiza | Jul 14 2024 15:52 utc | 59 … Kimberly_Cheatle … Nobody can explain why she hasn’t resigned already, while we investigate how they could allow that guy up on that roof. Previous gig: senior director of global security for PepsiCo. Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 15:54 utc | 60 Get a load of the dembots in this thread trying to seed the FUD that the assassination attempt didn’t happen! Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 14 2024 15:54 utc | 61 Get a load of the dembots in this thread trying to seed the FUD that the assassination attempt didn’t happen! Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 14 2024 15:54 utc | 62 Questions to the barflies regarding Mr Trump’s affair. I do not intend to be provocative, I see them as legitimate ones: Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Jul 14 2024 15:55 utc | 63 @Ahenobarbus #46 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2024 15:55 utc | 64 It was real. It’s nice to be open minded, but don’t let your brain fall out, Luccini. Posted by: Lucci | Jul 14 2024 15:58 utc | 65 @LightYearsFromHome #48 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2024 16:01 utc | 66 With Trump gone, his power base would have been in disarray, it would have been far easier to paper over any cracks in the official story, like suspiciously lax security, with Trump alive and well things could get interesting. Posted by: Lucci | Jul 14 2024 16:01 utc | 67 The fact that we have an aging two bit self promoter pitted against a senile old man with haters on both sides willing and ready to do violence shows the pathetic state of national politics in the country. Totally dysfunctional. Not surprised at the assassination attempt. Odd that the shooter could gain position to attempt it. Trump praised the Secret Service fwiw. This country is so f*cked. Posted by: the pessimist | Jul 14 2024 16:03 utc | 68 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 14 2024 15:27 utc | 40 Posted by: sunof27 | Jul 14 2024 16:04 utc | 69 Posted by: Schindler | Jul 14 2024 14:33 utc | 16 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 14 2024 16:07 utc | 70 Reminds me of the plot of Agatha Christie’s crime novel “A Murder Is Announced”. Posted by: Andrew S MacGregor | Jul 14 2024 16:07 utc | 71 Since they failed to Fico Trump, just as they failed to Fico Fico, they automatically fired up Trump’s base and further weakened Bidet (who refuses to step aside). Obvious solution: bump off Bidet on live camera, and arrange for a Russian passport and/or maga cap to be found at the scene. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 14 2024 16:07 utc | 72 @LightYearsFromHome #55 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2024 16:08 utc | 73 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 14 2024 15:47 utc | 55 Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 14 2024 16:08 utc | 74 For those who think it was staged: how do you stage a sniper bullet fired from over 100 metres away to nick your ear pinna edge but be sure it wouldn’t either miss completely or put a hole through your brain? Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 14 2024 16:10 utc | 75 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2024 15:42 utc | 49 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2024 16:14 utc | 76 Our old friend Dima has a story to tell. Yes he is pro-Russian but it seems that he has been reading Azov chatter over Telegram. I hav e seen some of the stuff. It seems to indicate Ukrainian involvement in the operation. The stories posted by the Ukrainian soldiers are all in Russian, so they cannot have made their way into any discussion – yet. I also wonder why Putin and or Orban have not gotten in touch with DT. Could they be conducting their own investigation into the Ukrainian connection? Cui bono? Ukraine obviously. Posted by: Stierlitz | Jul 14 2024 16:19 utc | 77 This is very long, but he covers the bases very well. It really looks like the locals were part of a Dallas style set up. Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 16:23 utc | 78 It was real. It’s nice to be open minded, but don’t let your brain fall out, Luccini. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:24 utc | 79 Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 16:23 utc | 78 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2024 16:26 utc | 80 I’m wondering why everyone is assuming the kid was trying to make a head shot. Could it have been just been a bad shot that went high? Posted by: genuinely curious | Jul 14 2024 16:29 utc | 81 @Ahenobarbus #46 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:29 utc | 82 I’m wondering why everyone is assuming the kid was trying to make a head shot. Could it have been just been a bad shot that went high? Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:31 utc | 83 Could you let us know the time stamp for the Dallas setup part? Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 16:36 utc | 84 Lucci@1522 Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 14 2024 16:37 utc | 85 Then stands up with a packet of ketchup smeared on his ear… Posted by: Napoleon | Jul 14 2024 16:37 utc | 86 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:31 utc | 83 Posted by: genuinely curious | Jul 14 2024 16:40 utc | 87 Under Obama, Kimberly Cheatle had been chief of the Secret Service detail protecting Vice President Biden. Posted by: Lysias | Jul 14 2024 16:40 utc | 88 Posted by: genuinely curious | Jul 14 2024 16:29 utc | 81 Posted by: kspr | Jul 14 2024 16:40 utc | 89 Per the Guardian: Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:42 utc | 90 Well, don’t that just change the scenery? Posted by: saner | Jul 14 2024 16:43 utc | 91 @KMRIA | Jul 14 2024 15:43 utc | 50 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 14 2024 16:45 utc | 92 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:31 utc | 83 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 14 2024 16:46 utc | 93 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2024 16:26 utc | 80 Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 16:46 utc | 94 Anyone hear what happened to Trump? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 14 2024 16:47 utc | 95
Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 16:47 utc | 96 “In my limited knowledge, shooters are taught to aim for the body as it is easier to hit.” Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 16:49 utc | 97 So you assume because his ear was hit that that is where the shooter was aiming? Posted by: Honzo | Jul 14 2024 16:50 utc | 98 Posted by: kspr | Jul 14 2024 16:40 utc | 89 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2024 16:51 utc | 99 Someone hinted to the fact that the flag above Trump gave a good orientation for snipers from where the wind blows. Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 14 2024 16:52 utc | 100 |
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