Roger@1 Chasing the link, finding much to agree with.
Personally would emphasize the independent lure of money in sports; omitting that government contracts for government research that is privately appropriated via patent or worse, antihuman aims of the government are especially a problem in STEM; omitting the role of economics and MBA programs in stifling critical thinking; the built-in lack of critical thinking traditional in public universities because of political interference; forgetting that private funding for policy institutes/think tanks that almost all promote official thinking does enormous damage to the overall culture, probably more I suspect that the occasional department tagged as woke; reinforcing the useless fakery of most DEI programs in academy, matching the same in business; more wary of claims of grades as guides to achievement despite intrinsic limits to serve as definitive qualifications, especially since they can be mechanisms to limit “production” of credentialed people who might compete and lower salaries (especially a problem in medical schools?); the doubtfulness of any widespread wokeness in law schools and divinity schools/religion departments, ever, and the role the anti-labor stance of academia has on student thinking about their future society. I also get the impression that the business schools have outside influence on the academics though I am too old to know.
Lengthy as this list is, these are more about emphasis than rejection. The point that I have serious doubts about is the relative independence thus far of education in foreign countries, given the historical monopolization of highst levels of education post-WWII. Way too many professors in foreign countries, even the PRC, were baked in the US. The general presumption that STEM is inherently critical outside the particular field in particular I doubt. The politics of the AMA for one strike me as pretty good evidence against that.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 11 2024 18:48 utc | 3

@Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 11 2024 18:48 utc | 3
Thanks for the extra input! With respect to the MBA schools, they are a massive profit centre for the revenue driven administrators so they get an oversized influence. Also, many of the MBA grads end up being very wealthy donors, as with the Law Schools, so another outsized influence. Neither MBA or Law is more than a technical training, neither should be part of a university academic program especially a Masters program, their outsized influence skews the direction and policies of the universities.
Yes, not just the government STEM contracts but there is so much private corporate money involved now which skews the universities toward product development and serving corporate interests rather than being the centres of basic research that they should be. Many professors then become entrepreneurs by taking patents for research which should really reside in the public domain, skewing priorities and damaging possibilities for cooperation between teams. In the worst case companies like BP “buy up” all the relevant scientists to shut down open research and discussion on their activities, such as the Deepwater Horizon Gulf platform explosion.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 11 2024 18:58 utc | 5

Re: MBAs
At the graduation ceremony of my MBA class (top 5 ranked school) – when the valafictorian was announced, a loud collective gasp was heard from us students – for the class Valedictorian was a notorious cheat !
Of note – the cheat had a long and successful career in Big Pharma .

Posted by: Exile | Jul 11 2024 19:12 utc | 7

@Posted by: c1ue | Jul 11 2024 19:15 utc | 8
Elite overproduction theory leaves out the fact that the elites being talked about are just the courtiers of the oligarchic capitalist ownership class, with much of the “overproduction” created by that class to culturally dominate and discipline the 80%. Identity politics was a very obvious strategy to draw attention away from the oligarchy and class struggle after Occupy Wall Street had been put down. The way it suddenly leapt to life across the whole media landscape, and was fully supported by the corporate leaders, is indicative of a coordinated campaign.
A focus on culture and institutions without political economy (e.g. who owns and controls the means of production, including the means of cultural and intellectual production?) is always flawed, the strength of Rockhill’s work is his starting point of political economy when viewing the academy.
The courtiers will always use whatever tools are available to climb the slippery pole upwards, and attempt to elevate themselves culturally. In many ways they are more blinded than the 80%, as their jobs and status (even personal internal self-worth) depend on believing the oligarch driven ruling ideology. They will be the most “woke” of the “woke”, until the oligarchy decides that wokeness isn’t such a good thing; then they will suddenly become unwoke. Unfortunately for many of them the oligarchy has trained its neoliberal sights on their remuneration and decided to drive many of them into precarity, so they fight even harder among themselves to gain what good positions are left – a veritable courtier Hunger Games.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 11 2024 19:30 utc | 9

re: “job-ready graduates”
Some of my next-generation majors: German literature, economics, political science . . . of course not gaining jobs thereby.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 11 2024 19:49 utc | 11

@ Roger | Jul 11 2024 19:30 utc | 9
Nice discussion of academia today. I agree with the overproduction thesis, but it has other details as well. Keeping intelligent people in school to Ph.D., which because of poor funding and expense takes them into their 40s usually, or at least their 30s, is a form of disguised unemployment. The universities have always been meant as sites to tranquilize the potentially rebellious, as rebellion has always been a factor too, even since the Middle Ages. They are a place to institutionalize people, in effect putting them on ice, just like a prison or an insane asylum.
The big change you haven’t emphasized so much, however, is the collapse of the bloated system. There are already massive closings and bankruptcies of colleges going on, somewhat concealed in most cases by mergers, which still lead to the firing of the faculty and staff. No doubt higher education, like the health care system, is bloated and parasitic. Education does not need to be drawn out for so many years, even if there will always be a small minority who pursue it lifelong. The US cannot afford its bloated higher education system anymore, or rather the US elite does not want to afford it, mainly because they only care about new wealth extraction opportunities, so it is going to keep shrinking drastically. And the corporations don’t want people with a liberal education or their own ideas; they just want training. The high elite believe only they need and deserve higher education, so the Ivy League may continue to flourish, but everything else is going on life support. In our college, no professors are being hired unless it can be shown that they will bring in big grant money, which kind of eliminates the humanities, so the faculty just get older and older. One of my colleagues anticipates that not only will departments be combined, but eventually all the liberal arts, both humanities and social sciences, will be combined into a single department of the liberal arts, and this in a very large, state-supported university. This is why colleges are so assiduously after paying foreign students, so that some have one fourth Chinese students. But how long can that go on?
The bottom line on American capitalism is: We want your money, so you have to pay for everything, so that we will even privatize the city streets if we can, but we will give you nothing whatsoever in return, no services, no products, zip. So in a university, we want paying students, oh yes, but we refuse to pay anyone anything, so faculty should all be fireable temps who will work for almost nothing. And with AI now we can get rid of the faculty and the staff altogether and just have machines to fleece the public. Maybe they can even program their robot soldiers to rob pedestrians. Your money or your life! And then just leave the dead bodies to rot in the streets because it would cost money to remove them.

Posted by: Cabe | Jul 11 2024 20:06 utc | 13

@ 13
re: Keeping intelligent people in school to Ph.D
One example I’m familiar with — staying in college supposedly toward PhD to age forty, included teaching freshman classes so the professor didn’t have to, for many years, finally giving her a PhD without any treatise or orals just to get rid of her.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 11 2024 20:20 utc | 15

So DeSantis is Trumps VP?

Posted by: jpc | Jul 11 2024 20:51 utc | 17

Posted by: jpc | Jul 11 2024 20:51 utc | 17
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There is no limit to the number of bad personnel decisions that Trump will be making.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 11 2024 21:09 utc | 19

There is no limit to the number of bad personnel decisions that Trump will be making.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 11 2024 21:09 utc |
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I would suggest he may well surpass the number of bad personnel positions from his last administration. Maybe he will change it up by going for lack of quality over quantity? Mr. Trump is not widely known for his ability to learn.

Posted by: Matt | Jul 11 2024 21:19 utc | 21

A crazy idea.
Dems decide to admit;
“Yes, the 2020 was full of fraud and Trump actually won”
“therefore he was actually elected to a second term and is now ineligible to stand for what would be a third”
Yes, crazy. But does anyone think it is beyond the Dems to try it? Lok at what else they have pulled.

Posted by: saner | Jul 11 2024 21:55 utc | 23

I very much agree that real critical academic work will severely limit the progress of any aspiring academic and quite possibly get them expelled … Truth telling to the powerful is not the function of the academy.
@ Roger | Jul 11 2024 19:08 utc | 6
Paulette Steeves wrote an eye-opener about suppression of indigenous history (aka “cultural genocide”), where pre-Clovis sites have been scoffed at for decades. Steeves’ writing style (truth be told) is somewhat stiff and academic, but the realities she relates are extremely edifying, both on human origins, and on modern academic rot:

The Indigenous Paleolithic of the Western Hemisphere is a reclaimed history of the deep past of Indigenous people in North and South America during the Paleolithic. Paulette F. C. Steeves mines evidence from archaeology sites and Paleolithic environments, landscapes, and mammalian and human migrations to make the case that people have been in the Western Hemisphere not only just prior to Clovis sites (10,200 years ago) but for more than 60,000 years, and likely more than 100,000 years.

https://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/nebraska/9781496202178/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 11 2024 22:06 utc | 25

Up until two decades ago, the German university had been modeled differently from most of its European neighbours, more or less incorporating the ideas of Wilhelm von Humboldt. It was changed recently in a bid by the EU to similarize degrees with the bachelor/master system instead of the Diplom, dealt out according to a credit score system. This changed everything.
The older university was a place that valued depth over breadth; it is from there hailing the cliché of the eccentric professor, as for these types there was appreciation and a place to work. Current professors are overloaded with administrative duties, while teaching has become a modular system comprised of listicle-like skill sets.
At the same time, teaching at the Gymnasium (13 years total, 9+4 elementary, before admission to uni) became likewise modularized and focused on bloodless skillsets, not on ‘classical’ ideals of ‘humanity’. I know people who dropped out of both becoming a teacher and a teacher’s teacher because they could not bear with this.
That is still not all. In a bid to bring more people into higher education, admission into the Gymnasium, as well as to the unis, rose. All this against the backdrop of Germany having a prized system of apprenticeship for many occupations, upon which builds a later possible Meister. The long standing rule that only Meister could go on and set up their own business is now also gone.
The effect of this has been sterilizing. People who were involved in the decisions now publicly regret them. FWIW, the only party that wants to go back to the old system is the AfD.
Out of personal experience, I must say that even niche subjects such as maths (less so) and philosophy (big time, at least in Hamburg) are surprisingly full of human vanity and therefor somewhat dysfunctional. I dropped out from my childhood dreams at age thirty to become a bohemian, and it is there where I developed my most important insights over the last 15 years; albeit against a background of thorough study that would hardly have been possible without the institution and some good/great teachers along the way.

Posted by: persiflo | Jul 11 2024 22:27 utc | 27

@Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 11 2024 20:41 utc | 16
Gabriel Rockhill, he studies the political economy of what he calls the “Global Theory Industry”. e.g.
Gabriel Rockhill, “The Global Theory Industry & Left Anti-Communism”
Also, his paper Critical and Revolutionary Theory: For the Reinvention of Critique in the Age of Ideological Realignment

Posted by: Roger | Jul 11 2024 23:01 utc | 29

Posted by: Roger | Jul 11 2024 23:01 utc | 29
Brilliant, thanks.
On the subject of managerial expansion this may sound familiar. Our faculty (perhaps the premier liberal arts institution in the country) recently underwent a ‘Curriculum Sustainability Project’ twice across 2 years. You know when something has become mantra because it is hypostatized via acronymization (CSP1, CSP2, etc). The rationale is simple: any unit with 24 enrollments or less was to be ‘retired’ (cf. Bladerunner). Philosophy, with three branches in its major, suffered worst: they were compelled to transition from 34 units (that’s over a 3 year degree, with a choice within the major) to 20. Several senior staff were aghast and left. Junior academics scrambled for a solution, appealing, for example, for the creation of two majors (practical and general philosophy), but to no avail. Across all our fields the higher level units which provided advanced disciplinary training at 4th year level were decimated. Our gallows humour at the time envisaged students doing 3 units across their BA: Arts 1, Arts 2, etc. We spoke too soon: the next year a mandatory first year unit was introduced: ‘Studying Arts’, which included classes on ‘how to participate in a tutorial’, and so on. Universally hated by staff and students. Other compulsory units included ‘industry partnership project units’ and ‘team-based learning’ units on ‘innovation in the 21st century’. You get the idea…
The next year the Dean added a second Deputy-Dean (curriculum development (wtf?)) with support staff: salaries and on-costs, $4.5M.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 11 2024 23:42 utc | 31

After calling Zelensky “President Putin”, Kamala Harris “Vice President Trump” and stating that “he takes the advice of the Commander-In-Chief” (which is himself) all within a few hours, perhaps Biden is at last toast. His current press conference (most probably heavily scripted) is painful to watch.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 12 2024 0:19 utc | 33

Posted by: Roger | Jul 12 2024 0:19 utc | 33
Wow, Rockhill is amazing. Just when you think you know who’s working on what in the world, you discover someone new and ask, why haven’t I heard of this guy before? Many thanks indeed for the tip.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 12 2024 1:55 utc | 35

ZH has a posting up with the title
Biden Praises ‘Vice President Trump’ During Rambling Post-NATO Presser
the quote

Update (2032ET): That was rough. After introducing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as Vladimir Putin – then arriving to his own press conference more than 50 minutes late, a coughing, slurring Joe Biden then called Donald Trump his Vice President as he attempted to show the world what a ‘goodest boy’ can do.

So, this is when the freak out begins.
Joe Biden is pres and gawd knows they don’t want Harris to step in for rest of term.
Ukraine is going down and the US has a president with dementia, advanced and public.
Occupied Palestine is not going well and the Nutty visit to Congress coming soon will not go well, IMO.
Gold is back over $2400/oz today showing tension again.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and that doesn’t part seems closer to me these days.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 12 2024 3:05 utc | 37

Does anyone know, what happened to bevin? He stopped commenting for a long while. Is he gone to other sites?

Posted by: fanto | Jul 12 2024 4:14 utc | 39

Kurt Campbell
Obama’s China pivot czar
How to check China’s rise.

NO need to ban Chinese students
Let them come and study humanities.
Leave our stem courses open for the Indians, whom we share many common values.

Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 4:40 utc | 41

Actually, the Internet was on its way to displacing the need for graduate education. Until Disney, Newspapers, Microsoft, Google, AOL, the big name Universities, the Pharmaceutical’s and others got involved in blocking access to academic papers the distribution of knowledge was on the rise. These monopolist used patents and copyrights and massive venture capital investments to protect their monopolies and their profits. They used the courts and rule of law to impose their monopoly powers in ways which prevented the world from accessing knowledge and entertainment domains.
The Internet outdated the Universities the Text book guys went to court and the big corporations were being challenged by the investigations and developments made by 15 year girls working in their fathers garages. If the knowledge on all websites today were open source, allowing any and all persons to access whatever might suit their fancy, across all boundaries (corporate, state, national, international) .there would be no need to obtain a degree of any kind. Open source knowledge means open economic competition. Big guys would fall in minutes and new king of the mountains would rise until they too would fall. It was an always moving forward world.
In the 1980’s and early 1990’s, one mind in front of a computer could do the work of any college professor in a few hours or a short time. It was easy in the early 80s and 90s to acquire whatever knowledge one wanted and to learn and to become proficient at any academic level just by searching the Internet and studying the subject matter of interest.. You could email any author of any paper and ask for more, and almost always get very useful responses.
Knowledge is easy to obtain in an open source society. Demonstration of ability to learn knowledge and to apply it comes when the learner is called upon to apply the knowledge they know exist or have already acquired. Real life problems require solutions not degrees. These papers available by open source over the Internet contained the substance of experiments of the type often demonstrated in academic environments. In this way, real knowledge got applied to real life by those with the talent to apply it.
Expertise came from open access, not from degrees. Some 14 year old kids were more knowledgeable than 40 year Phds. what was interesting is how many subject matter experts rose from nowhere to contribute to what was then a global open society working mostly by email and bulletin boards. Much of the protocols used in todays connected internet came from Internet connected unpaid talent, people just contributed and the contributions became organized and the organizations produced software and hardware. But then along came the venture capitalist and Microsoft, Google, big brother and all of sudden every thing required a patent, a copyright, credentials, authorization and authentication. Laws were passed to keep people for living their lives on the Internet, they could no longer access this or talk about that, or get involved with this or that.. corporate capitalism took charge.
We need an open source world, where everyone has access to all of the information all of the time, and where groups can self assemble to work on things or just use the Internet to entertain themselves (talent does not need to be employed and in today’s world, one can make more money being unemployed than employed).
Open source no-holds barred Internet, worked much like AI works today. Everyone could draw on everyone else’s experience and use it for whatever purpose they wanted to use it for. Everyone’s website was someone else’s database.
I believe the only way to stop the wars is to remove the monopoly powers from private monopolistic hands. Until that is done, nothing but war will be the result.

Posted by: snake | Jul 12 2024 5:07 utc | 43

/cheep
Sounds like the challenge in academia is the same as in politics: constant running in place, endless interviewing, keeping up with peers in the hierarchy as you all age, publish or perish, forever campaigning.
That structural dynamic will prioritize different values of acceptability, competition, and deference to the holders of tools for election. So ideals like academic curiosity and rigor, or political service to the broader body politic, will take a back seat to the desperation of keeping what you got. 🙂 Maybe the question of persisting in holding one’s position creates a desperation easy to manipulate, which invites subjugation to malicious powerful actors.
Oh well, gotta go feed my chicks! ^.^ Maybe someone else will solve it. Good luck!
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | Jul 12 2024 5:59 utc | 45

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1811528887282589818
VIDEO: All Empires Go Down
~ 🇩🇰 Jan Oberg Ph.D

Posted by: DrWho | Jul 12 2024 6:12 utc | 47

Any chance Biden will cark it before the elections? Hillary and Co have plenty experience in getting inconveniences out of the way.

Posted by: Suresh | Jul 12 2024 7:34 utc | 49

@ 40 not @ 30

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 12 2024 7:52 utc | 51

The USA is “The Devil in sheepskin”

Posted by: Menz | Jul 12 2024 8:24 utc | 53

So DeSantis is Trumps VP?
Posted by: jpc | Jul 11 2024 20:51 utc | 17
Not if he wants insurance against assassination.

Posted by: Mary | Jul 12 2024 9:42 utc | 55

About EU dismantling research and education it us all about the go fair manifesto and its stakeholders pro bio tech, big data and citizen data. I see universities and even cultural centres getting high tech VR and ER equipments because if EU trends who find themselves pennyless the next day.
Check Civis3i for a mess involving Ouganda and Mozambick….the new frontier.

Posted by: Tom | Jul 12 2024 9:55 utc | 57

I think biden is done, stick a fork in it.
Hat tip to arch bungle.
In all the furrour, trump has had a free pass ,In the media and here.
What are trumps, actaul policys ? Minus the emotional baggage ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 12 2024 10:56 utc | 59

B , Here is an entertaining video from 1965
Mimi and Richard Farina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRuuZY8otz0

Posted by: Bartholomew Cubbins | Jul 12 2024 11:03 utc | 61

An excellent question’s asked by a member of Russia’s intelligentsia: “What Kind of Ideology Does Russia Need?” First published in the SVR’s Monthly Journal: Scout, https://karlof1.substack.com/p/what-kind-of-ideology-does-russia

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 12 2024 11:21 utc | 63

kana | Jul 11 2024 18:30 utc | 2
juliania | Jul 11 2024 23:58 utc | 32
“So, may I ask, kana, what is your opinion of the essay you are quoting from? Is it, in your opinion, helpful because truthful? Do you agree with it? If so, why? ”
It’s a good article, self-explanatory (more or less). Loads of directions to pursue.
https://pamho.medium.com/the-secret-teaching-of-all-ages-8d79e9ea4baf
So when John writes about the word what is he speaking about? Inquire at the CIA juliania
https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/E4/E4AAFF6DAF6863F459A8B4E52DFB9FF4_Manly.P.Hall_The.Secret.Teachings.of.All.Ages.pdf
November 2017 Release of Abbottabad Compound Material
https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/index.html
“In the beginning was the Sound, and the Sound was with God, and the Sound was God –
The Essene Gospel of Peace
(now, back to the wars)

Posted by: Pluto in Aquarius | Jul 12 2024 11:25 utc | 65

US Security State witch hunt against a US Chinese academic ends in failure, but not before it bankrupts the professor and gets him fired from his job.
A great way to show Chinese academics that the US is a hostile environment to them.
US professor Feng ‘Franklin’ Tao wins reversal of conviction in Trump-era China probe

Posted by: Roger | Jul 12 2024 12:08 utc | 67

@Posted by: Pluto in Aquarius | Jul 12 2024 12:08 utc | 66

But in one sense America had always had a uniparty since the Civil War.

Once the Northern Haute-Bourgeoisie defeated the Southern Landed Class, the US became the purest bourgeois nation in the world. And most certainly a uni-party. The late 1800s were a time when the Democrats pulled every trick in the book to keep at bay more democratic groupings, such as the Greenbacks that were rebelling against the power of the big banks over small farmers. 1870-1890 was a period of mass struggle, both by unions and small farmers (“the little people”) against the massive corporate combines that came into existence then (railroads, steel, oil etc.), defeated by a combination of the uni-party (the oligarchs) and the state.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 12 2024 12:23 utc | 69

Isnt it bizarre that the media (politico, cnn, in addition to all the millionaire owned French media) are all for the extreme right in France when in The Netherlands they had to bury democracy in a 6 months negociation to force Wilders renounce 1) being PM, 2) organize a referendum to get out of the EU, etc.

Posted by: Minaa | Jul 12 2024 12:29 utc | 71

@Posted by: Newbie | Jul 12 2024 12:27 utc | 70
Wow, just imagine if Xi had not been put in place to purge the Party of corruption and compradors, and discipline the capitalists to work for the good of the nation! No wonder the West hates Xi so much. I heard about the Wei Fenghe case, but not these details – thanks. The US is the biggest hypocrite with respect to “foreign interference” it is the master at it.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 12 2024 12:46 utc | 73

The Whole World War depended on two key nations and it SEEMS they have decided.
‘”Turkey does not intend to take sides in the conflict in Ukraine. “We will not be a party to this war,” Erdogan said about the ongoing discussion within NATO about whether instructors and military personnel of the alliance can go to Ukraine. The Turkish leader was critical of the strategy of the allies, which involves further military assistance to Kiev. “Of course, we do not agree with Mr. Putin on everything. However, we can discuss various issues among ourselves and delve into the details of their solution,” Erdogan said’
What about our dear friends and their great Bollywood diaspora? The Collective West, has been working hard on, like a gold digging whore for decades now? Come be our PM and stand for President (not in Europe though..)
‘It is noted that the timing of the meeting between Putin and Modi has caused wide concern in the Biden administration.’
– whoops it seems both Humpty Dumpties have decided to climb down off the wall before they get shattered!
So who is going to fight the Chinese??
It’s the trusty old allies …err… Japan And Australia, in the extended North Atlantic to the Pacific … who cares about geography anyway. The Ozzies appear to have turned into the Polish as a standing joke for Dumb and Dumber.
In fact the whole 5 eyes are idiots sending their unaware subjects to a war for the Zionazis butt hurt. They’ll have to rely on the US forces boots and the trusty Old Europe stalwarts and the Nordic Vikings!
U.K. – the Great Knight Flop doing what he was (s)elected to do with the dodgy’majority’ – escalate to a wider war in Europe and The World.
‘ Starmer said Russia poses a threat to an entire generation and called on NATO countries to increase defense spending’
France – Macaroon- ‘“Russia must not win”, since not only the future of Ukraine is at stake, but also “security on all continents ’
What some Nato members think of that plan?
‘ The document was not signed by such NATO member countries as Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Greece, North Macedonia, Romania, Slovakia, Turkey, Croatia and Montenegro.’
Whoa! TURKEY, GREECE! That’s the majority of the footsoldiers available to Natzio for their boots on the ground canon fodder.
What does Russia say? It seems as if with a yawn – bring it on, if you think you’re hard enough.
‘“Germany, the USA, France, Britain are directly involved in the conflict around Ukraine,” Peskov said, adding that Russia should take into account the current decisions of the West, this is not a reason for pessimism, on the contrary , a reason to get together and use your full potential.’
Ho hum, the new Cold War! That’s the answer? So the MIC can pocket zillions in new useless weapons developments? The citizens remaining Russophobic, Sinophobic …Xenophobic – just dumb Racists as always ??
As I said yesterday – it is all done. Now our fate is in the hands of the ‘leaders’.
Bar the new ‘Yalta’ without the Collective Wastes defeated Nazio leaders as they rush to build a purdah to hide their blushes behind and find scapegoats to take the heat.
But they intend to return to their grand design in a few generations , as they always do, leaving a bit of poisonous hatred in place; so a bit of ‘to the last Ukranian’ all these new massive cemeteries to worship at. And a lot fewer Semites in the Levant.
Erdo and Modi appear to have chosen to say , No! That means there are insufficient alliances and the necessary millions of boots, to take on and stop the Multipolarists.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 12 2024 12:58 utc | 75

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 12 2024 7:50 utc | 50
What game is that Mark2? The one where you post assanine garbage, like claiming trump is pro immigration and any one who doesnt follow your ‘logic’ is a tool? Maybe supporting the dems brown shirts aka antifa? Or is it the one where you run away to the next thread and claim trump gets a pass. Speaking of emotional baggage thats your sop. Please Stop just stop transfering your poster child case of TDS into this forum. Its innane and frankly it clogs the threads with useless nonsense. Do the right thing and cease being a nuisance.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 12 2024 13:03 utc | 77

@Posted by: Newbie | Jul 12 2024 12:27 utc | 70
Wow, just imagine if Xi had not been put in place to purge the Party of corruption and compradors, and discipline the capitalists to work for the good of the nation! No wonder the West hates Xi so much. I heard about the Wei Fenghe case, but not these details – thanks. The US is the biggest hypocrite with respect to “foreign interference” it is the master at it.
Posted by: Roger | Jul 12 2024 12:46 utc | 73
Wei Fenghe was a mistake by Xi, good that he has corrected it, but it was his mistake.

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 12 2024 13:25 utc | 79

I remember some critics saying that the current situation might lead to RF being China’s bitch.
If there was any idea about that, let it be rested to peace.
China might have tried to cut-off NK and test the waters, but is currently more scared of the west cutting its losses in ukraine and trying to hire RF back.
Interesting article
https://www.china-arms.com/2024/07/russia-china-united-states/
n.b. Tumen River estuary for china would cut-off RF access to NK

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 12 2024 13:32 utc | 81

I’m quite happy that the forum is cleared of the fake ‘left’ social justice warriors spouting endless Marxism religious dogma – which was invented to reinforce the Financialists control of the World through Capitalism – good riddance I say.
Their propaganda, narratives and scripts here – sophisticated as they may be are not hard to destroy.
It equally goes for their partners in that crime – the supremacists and Rules based unipolar superpower supporting ‘right’.
Many a Trotskyite and Revolutionary Communists were enrolled as the ‘fake leftists’ as youngsters and students – to later stab the workers and the poorest in the backs through a Red/Brown fascist mindset. Many worked directly for the Intelligence deep state as they infiltrated all real social justice campaigns. Some openly came out as ‘rightists’ – shameless. Very clearly on show in the U.K. over the past decades.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 12 2024 13:34 utc | 83

Justice, gringo style..
GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT
The Lee Wen HO fiasco
https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/wen-ho-lee-you-call-this-justice-presumed-2883532.php

Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 13:50 utc | 85

@ denk | Jul 12 2024 13:50 utc | 85
It really does amaze me that after the arbitrary persecution of Chinese academics — and of Chinese in general during the “Kung Flu” panic years — anyone from China bothers with American institutions.
Perhaps because it’s still often the case that Chinese who aren’t sufficiently qualified to study inChina, but have lots of family money, regard US institutions as a fallback?

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 12 2024 14:08 utc | 87

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 12 2024 14:03 utc | 86
Can’t agree with you on Derek Jacobi’s portrayal of “Claudius”, he played the role straight up
realistically. While stutterers are looked down on, the typical left-handed male stutterer is above average intelligence often with remarkable talents. This was the portrayal in the Book and Jacobi’s performance. If it made his career it was well deserved.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Jul 12 2024 14:24 utc | 89

Probably so, in which case the PRC still has some work to do in those fields. Opening a few more universities couldn’t hurt either.
Posted by: malenkov | Jul 12 2024 14:26 utc | 90
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I bet tHEY’R working on it.
Last month, the Germans slap an embargo of
high power steam turbine engine to China, most likely following diktat from Washington.
Within less than 24 hr, China announced its own steam turbine engines are ready for mass production.
Coincidence eh ?

Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 14:35 utc | 91

Last month, the Germans slap an embargo of
high power steam turbine engine to China, most likely following diktat from Washington.
Within less than 24 hr, China announced its own steam turbine engines are ready for mass production.
Coincidence eh ?
Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 14:35 utc | 91
probably happened the same as with MTU engines, licensed to avoid export issues

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 12 2024 14:47 utc | 93

Once again the West “encourages” the East toward further self-sufficiency! 🤣
Posted by: malenkov | Jul 12 2024 14:43 utc | 92
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There’s a recurring refrain I heard from
Chinese netizens….
Thanks for your sanctions/embargoes uncle sham, bring it on !

Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 14:56 utc | 95

probably happened the same as with MTU engines, licensed to avoid export issues
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 12 2024 14:47 utc | 93
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You mean like the Harmony OS was ‘licensed’ from google ?

Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 15:03 utc | 97

You mean like the Harmony OS was ‘licensed’ from google ?
Posted by: denk | Jul 12 2024 15:03 utc | 97
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.

Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021),[1] was a U.S. Supreme Court decision related to the nature of computer code and copyright law. The dispute centered on the use of parts of the Java programming language’s application programming interfaces (APIs) and about 11,000 lines of source code, which are owned by Oracle (through subsidiary, Oracle America, Inc., originating from Sun Microsystems), within early versions of the Android operating system by Google. Google has since transitioned Android to a copyright-unburdened engine without the source code, and has admitted to using the APIs but claimed this was within fair use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.#Decision

The Court issued its decision on April 5, 2021. In a 6–2 majority, the Court ruled that Google’s use of the Java APIs was within the bounds of fair use

Posted by: too scents | Jul 12 2024 15:14 utc | 99