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While listening to Rammstein songs in the Mutter collection, I wish you a good recovery in that specialized facility for rehabilitation. Be lazy over three weeks, Doctor’s orders, literally. Johan.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 8 2024 13:39 utc | 1
Wow ! Quite a lot is happening that appears to be blazingly predictive.
France will get way worse. Debts, cultural erosion and delusional politics in response.
The UK will get way worse. Eroding healthcare, threatening the globe with a joke of a military, uncontrolled immigration and 80% that didn’t vote for Labour.
The US……oh, God, Trump vs Biden? Or Kamala? Uncontrolled debts and delusional politics and wrecking the dollar.
Israel will get way worse. They can’t fight Hezbollah and Hamas is going nowhere. Netanyahu must keep war going to survive. Their electoral future will be led by genocidal extremists while secular Jews may emigrate.
The West has no metanoia. As in “I screwed up and embarrassed myself and I’m not doing that stuff again”. No sense of old fashioned repentance.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 8 2024 13:39 utc | 2
/tweet tweet
Get better, b!
We’ve all fledged from the nest here, we’ll make do as needed. If you can only manage a regular once-a-week or fortnight Open Topic, I personally won’t mind as your well being matters more. I think though I speak for others in that I’d like at least monthly news that you are still alive (maybe shorter for others). 🙂
/perches upon fence
/chirp
Posted by: titmouse | Jul 8 2024 13:46 utc | 3
https://mishtalk.com/economics/france-is-now-ungovernable-following-a-pyrrhic-victory-for-the-left-green-alliance/
https://mishtalk.com/economics/france-is-in-uncharted-territory-expect-a-big-political-catfight/
Posted by: Boy Moonline | Jul 8 2024 13:46 utc | 4
Blessings to you b and to a quick recovery.
Please just keep the comments open for us thirsty geopolitical travelers.
Thanks!
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 8 2024 13:46 utc | 5
Looks like the Rooskies “bombed” another hospital, surprisingly, just in time for the NATO summit…
Posted by: Peter b | Jul 8 2024 13:47 utc | 6
Let me fully qualify my request to include that Bernhard only keep the bar open to the extent that it is comfortable for him.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and what a shit show is on display, eh?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 8 2024 13:53 utc | 7
‘b’ take your time-if you shut down the MOA for a few days it won’t matter in the fullness of time; what does matter is your successful rehabilitation.
b, take all the time you need to heal. Mental health is a major part of physical health. Prayers and thoughts for you on your journey of healing.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 8 2024 14:00 utc | 9
China and the art of slight.
Beijing, June 23, 2024:
Robert Habeck is the German Vice Chancellor and minister for economic affairs and climate action. During a visit to China, the German Vice Chancellor was told that unfortunately it was impossible to have a meeting with Chinese Prime Minister Li Qiang. Instead, Habeck met Zheng Shanjie, governor of the Chinese Zhejiang province.
Beijing, July 8, 2024:
Victor Orban is Hungarian Prime Minister. During a visit to China, Victor Orban met with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
Posted by: Passerby | Jul 8 2024 14:05 utc | 11
I’ve got to be honest b, but with your absence and the blog being frozen for weeks, it was very cathartic, a Zen like virtual moment of reflection. No hands clapping, as the winds roared.
Cheers and speedy recovery M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 8 2024 14:08 utc | 12
While there’s still a chance to post, I mean to say thanks to b for everything, and especially thanks for generously (I’d say courageously) letting folks in on your private health problems. It can’t be easy to “open the kimono” like that, but your honesty is manifestly the best policy. (Without good info, we’d assume we’re hearing a cover-story while the deep state takes down MoA, as I’m sure you’re aware, b.)
You take care, b. Time for you to take your time. No problemmo, my man.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2024 14:13 utc | 13
Posted by: Boy Moonline | Jul 8 2024 13:46 utc | 4
Good links to Mish Talk, thanks.
The two most important issues of governance in the West are BY FAR, in order of urgency (1) public debt and (2) demographic decay. Yet all them halfwits in power care about is shithole Ukraine, genocidal Israel, sexual degenerates, importing poverty from Africa/LatAm, the concentration of CO2 and saving the planet, and petty fights for power between center-this and center-that.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 8 2024 14:14 utc | 14
Were we living in peaceful times, I’m sure you’d be well on your way to recovery B.
As a 52 year old in good health, the mental health side of me is a concern owing to my inability to shut myself off from the absolute madness engulfing us.
With your announcement today, I’m going to delete every app and homepage from my phone and keep only YouTube music and give myself a break.
I wish you the best, MOA is the best thing since sliced bread as we say in Ireland along with your health is your wealth. The world will survive as it always has without or without us.
Slan
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Jul 8 2024 14:14 utc | 15
B.
3 weeks in Reha will do wonders for you. Hope you got a clinic on the Nordsee
Posted by: Exile | Jul 8 2024 14:15 utc | 16
Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 8 2024 13:39 utc | 2
I’m seeing the same thing in Canada.
Runaway debt
Political parties devoid of ideas and a system where the first year of a four year mandate is spent deconstructing what the previous party did and the last year is spent campaigning leaving only 2 years for vacation.
Rampant homelessness … when I was a kid in the ’70’s there were half a dozen homeless men in town .. they were winos and you knew them all by name. Today all the good spots under bridges are taken as are all the prime camping spots in the parks. Homeless are squatting in vacants buildings and sheds … even in back yards. It’s not just drug addicts either … some work at full time jobs. New apartments cost so much to build now that someone making twice the minimum wage can’t afford both an apartment and a car to get them to work.
Food inflation rate was running at 10% until it dropped to 2.9% this last year.
Demographics … we have a huge aging population of baby boomers and a nearly destitute generation half the size to support us in retirement. Healthcare is simply collapsing. Waiting lists for a GP are a decade long and people have died waiting for care in hospital emergency rooms. If you don’t have a gaping hole in your chest, a limb falling off with blood still spurting or suffering a heart attack you’re in for a long wait.
Society is broken … we need a reset.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 8 2024 14:22 utc | 19
B, we’re with you man. Do what you got to do, and take great pride in all you’ve done for others.
Exemplar. Pin that medal on your chest, and flaunt it around the hospital.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 8 2024 14:24 utc | 20
Us barflies, through our dialogue, understand the reality behind the scenes of the mainstream narratives. It’s a pleasure to be among folks who understand what’s actually happening, so here’s a little objective reality to chew on: https://folkpotpourri.com/dare-you-doubt-the-real-boy/
Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Jul 8 2024 14:30 utc | 21
Do what’s best for you, b!!
Today during the chat between Judge Napolitano and Alastair Crooke, the judge cited new figures from The Lancet of well over 100K deaths in Gaza. Of course, there’s much more to Crooke’s recent publications and what extra was revealed in the chat and what was not. My substack article encapsulating it all will be published shortly.
Rest up and regain your strength b. We’ll bbe here for you.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 8 2024 14:34 utc | 23
Get well b. Make the required decisions, your health is first priority.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 8 2024 14:47 utc | 24
Take care b get well.
Echo with those who struggle with the crushing bloodthirsty insanity rising around us. I can only turn away from it to save what remains of my soul.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 8 2024 14:48 utc | 25
Sincere thanks to you for your life and sanity saving MoA. My hopes and prayers are with you for a full recovery. Best to just speak for one self, but, I think it’s safe to say that we all love you.
Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Jul 8 2024 15:01 utc | 26
Get well soon b. Have you considered an apprentice? Someone to fill in when you need a break? Everyone needs a break now and then.
Posted by: Leroy | Jul 8 2024 15:05 utc | 28
b- ditto everyone else’s comments on your health – get well.. take the time you need…
@ HB_Norica | Jul 8 2024 14:22 utc | 19
that is my impression too here in canada on the westcoast.. the system is broken.. i am reluctant to use the term ”reset”, lol…
i have been reading bbc, which might be a mistake, lol… here is an article which is not really reflected in the title.. check it out if interested.. the whole right left, of far right label is b.s. at this point..
The far right came close to power in France. What about the rest of Europe?
and helmer has an article up from yesterday.. it’s largely about nato.i will honour the thread title here…check it out if interested…
Posted by: james | Jul 8 2024 15:10 utc | 29
Posted by: Passerby | Jul 8 2024 14:05 utc | 11
Provincial governors in China are actually quite high in the food chain due to the federal nature of the PRC. Definitely higher up than the mayor that Blinken got.
Posted by: badjoke | Jul 8 2024 15:17 utc | 30
Take it easy, b; and get well soon.
I heard that the NY Times recently asked in an op-ed whether the US actually needs a president.
Does America Need A President (paywalled)
Narratives are shifting faster than during the recent public health unpleasantness.
Posted by: robjira | Jul 8 2024 15:26 utc | 31
The days of being able to go over to China and lecture them without cost are gone.
I remember some US politician (Hilary Clinton, I think) complaining that the Chinese got visibly upset over what she considered a mere “pro forma” haranguing. Tone deaf as all git out.
Posted by: billb | Jul 8 2024 15:26 utc | 32
I must admit that apart from a few telegram channels I hardly have any patience to read anything other than MoA.
Would it be possible to keep comment section open only to regulars and few others that have proven not to misuse b’s hospitality?
I wish you speedy recovery b!
Posted by: 2+2=5 | Jul 8 2024 15:29 utc | 33
Eighthman@1339
There seems to be something fishy about phase two of the French (s)election. Understandable that the 21st Century reiteration of Leon Blum’s United Front…this time under Melanchon…came up victorious. They essentially ganged-up on LePen. What stumps me, though is how the Rottenchild’s little French poodle, Macaroni, somehow came in second. Are we talking election tampering as in the U$$A during the 2020 Grand Fiasco?
Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 8 2024 15:40 utc | 35
Be Blessed, b. Please comfort yourself that many posters here wish you all the best. Your courage in spite of all those slings and arrows is both refreshing and encouraging. Stay strong.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 8 2024 15:45 utc | 36
Wishing the site owner a happy convalescence.
As for France, what difference does it make? Even in the unlikely event that the “left” parties don’t form a coalition with the Macron party, the French president has near-dictatorial powers.
Posted by: malenkov | Jul 8 2024 16:03 utc | 37
My substack article is now complete, “Crooke: “Something Significant has Snapped Within ‘The System’””. Included are his SCF essay and Al-Mayadeen column and the link to Crooke’s chat with Judge Napolitano.
“Sincere thanks to you for your life and sanity saving MoA. My hopes and prayers are with you for a full recovery. Best to just speak for one self, but, I think it’s safe to say that we all love you.
Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Jul 8 2024 15:01 utc | 26 E.Smith | Jul 8 2024 15:01 utc | 26”
Thanks Robert, for saying it, I totally agree with you!
Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 8 2024 16:24 utc | 39
Zionists trying to destroy Western society:
The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and reorganisation of global society requires two essential steps, firstly the destruction of the old established order, secondly, the design and imposition of the new order, the first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions.
Nahum Goldmann (president of the World Zionist Organization)
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/blueprint-todays-world-revolution/
Posted by: phenon | Jul 8 2024 16:36 utc | 40
Best wishes for your recovery B.
Take it easy and don’t be too worried about the comments section. I’ll leave with a prediction:
Several more retired US generals die in tragic hiking accidents, all of them conveniently deep in the back country away from any witness.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 8 2024 16:38 utc | 41
“The first task of our world revolution is destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated. Individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct. Traditional social norms must also be viewed only as a disease to be eradicated.
Nahum Goldmann (president of the World Zionist Organization)
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/blueprint-todays-world-revolution/
Posted by: phenon | Jul 8 2024 16:44 utc | 42
b your a Leagend.
Put yor feet up, relax, content in the knowledge, you cronicled history in the making. Their as a study for all to study for
furure generations. Anything more from you will be a bonus to us all. Done purly becouse you want to.
But dont forget to pack plenty of pop corn.
———-
It’s good to here that people are disowning the US right wing.
It’s fast becoming a toxic brand, but remember actions speak louder than words.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 8 2024 16:45 utc | 43
Traditional social norms must also be viewed only as a disease to be eradicated
Gender
Sexuality
Cultural history
Spiritulality
all to depopulate the Earth of non ZIonists
Posted by: phenon | Jul 8 2024 16:51 utc | 44
To add guys…
A lot less thread disruption and dilution, from the right wing trump supporters would have been more respectfull to b.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 8 2024 16:54 utc | 45
‘forcibly collectivised’
Nahum Goldmann (president of the World Zionist Organization)
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/blueprint-todays-world-revolution/
A system of destroying morals and social structure and replacing it with a USSR style world revolution
Posted by: phenon | Jul 8 2024 17:06 utc | 46
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2024 16:23 utc | 38
From your substack, this is Crooke:
The 1970s and 1980s were the point at which the long arc of traditional liberalism gave place to an avowedly illiberal, mechanical ‘control system’ (managerial technocracy) that today fraudulently poses as liberal democracy.
No, what we have today is the logical evolution of true liberalism when released from the constraints of competition with Marxism.
This idea by Crooke, that liberalism took the wrong turn in Albuquerque (70s-80s), reminds me of arguments made by intellectual Marxists when I was in uni. When poiting out the many failures of Marxists polities, they replied: to the problems of revolution, more revolution!
Lol, like all fanatics, liberals contemplating the wrongs of their ideology are not going to admit them as wrongs of their ideology but as proof that what they have now is not their TRUE ideology.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 8 2024 17:08 utc | 47
Creating class conflict:
“Capitalism must be condemned as a fundamental misfortune caused by the wealth of capitalist power exploiting the false separation between the high rulers and the oppressed exploited masses.”
Enofrcing economic collectivism:
“The masses must be induce to repudiate the concept of personal wealth and personal rights”
Warfare success of superior over inferior:
“the great guiding principle of the subordinating militaristic spirit in which superior ranks impose order on inferiors, new world order: “which will bring the true aristocratic principle of “might is right” in the those who can rule – shall rule”.
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/blueprint-todays-world-revolution/
Nahum Goldmann (president of the World Zionist Organization)
Posted by: phenon | Jul 8 2024 17:16 utc | 48
A Zionist world order to be created by violence:
‘the new order must be forcibly established through people again being divided and differentiated only in accordance with the new pyramidal hierarchical system of our imposed global monolithic new world order’
Nahum Goldmann (president of the World Zionist Organization)
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/blueprint-todays-world-revolution/
Posted by: phenon | Jul 8 2024 17:22 utc | 49
Not a Trumps supporter by any means but…..and forgive me b.
To add guys…
A lot less thread disruption and dilution, from the right wing trump supporters would have been more respectfull to b.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 8 2024 16:54 utc | 45
Scary part is you actually believe that the above is more respectful to b?
Fucking clown. Go away
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 8 2024 17:25 utc | 50
Phenon @ 49
Oh mate your preaching to the converted.
Unless of course your cia trying to subvert this site.
Just as they did to Corbyn and Labour.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 8 2024 17:25 utc | 51
Rarely post, but check into MoA several times a day for the last couple years.
I’ve been through rehab. My advice: Unplug from the news for the entire first week. Then post once to let everyone know you’re still alive. Don’t open comments.
Second week, if you can’t stand staying unplugged anymore, cherry pick a few news sources to read, but better to stay unplugged. Read some books that you’d been planning to read for a long time.
Post that you’re still alive and don’t open comments.
Third week, stay unplugged if you can manage it, because your mental faculties should be entirely focused for these three weeks on yourself and your healing.
Then we will be delighted to have you recharged and well on the way to health again.
We value your blog, and I just returned from 3 weeks travel in Europe where I (mostly) unplugged from the internet. It was very helpful to focus on doing and being rather than the world for a period of time.
Posted by: Explico | Jul 8 2024 17:38 utc | 52
Lets all chill a bit for b’s sake.
A good test of sanity is having a sence of humour. Hope this makes you laugh b
It’s here with deepest respect to you.
But funny as hell and topical,
Kevin Ayers ‘stranger in blue suade shoes.’
Try youtube or musify.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 8 2024 18:03 utc | 53
France ‘ elections was pretty weird with a winner similar to Germany coalition (Center-Right Liberal, Green , Socialist and Left ‘soros’ wokes).
Posted by: Nick | Jul 8 2024 18:24 utc | 54
@ malenkov | Jul 8 2024 16:03 utc | 37
looking on the bright side – change happens slowly, but i think this vote more then anything showcases the huge dissatisfaction with the present political system in operation in france, the uk and by extension – all of europe and beyond.. the apparatus itself is hugely flawed.. instead of democracy, we have corporatocracy, or plutocracy…. the class war hasn’t disappeared and it will have to be addressed sooner or later, but that small percentage of unelected leaders that are pushing for a particular agenda – endless war and dominance… the voting shows the cracks in their agenda..
Posted by: james | Jul 8 2024 18:38 utc | 56
b, just take care of yourself, your health is all that matters. i’m glad you’re taking extra time to heal, you have the rest of your life, in good health, to think about, this is only temporary. sending my love love love. take care. wish i could be there to take care of you.
Posted by: annie | Jul 8 2024 18:45 utc | 57
B, Have a restful & rejuvenating vacay from the everyday. Take care of yourself; we will be here when you are ready to return.
ps I almost died at 31 from septicemia gone septic. It took a good 6 months to begin to feel like myself again.
So be generous with yourself. Please get the rest you need
Posted by: Mary | Jul 8 2024 19:03 utc | 58
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 8 2024 16:54 utc | 45
A little less partisan virtue signaling would be a lot more respectful to b. too.
Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Jul 8 2024 19:21 utc | 59
It would seem that the unexpected result of France’s run-off vote on Sunday is evidence that the ‘Israel’ lobby in France is just powerful as in the rest of the West.
According to BBC, in the run-up to the initial snap election, Ms Le Pen stressed that her platform differed from that of her father in that RN is not into jew-blaming and now blames immigrants and Muslims for France’s woes. That sounded like a smart move in jewed-up France and attracted strong support for RN from voters.
However, ‘Israel’ Lobby haters aren’t quick to forgive or forget so they quickly, and successfully, decided to give Le Pen a heavy dose of the Corbyn treatment.
And it worked.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 8 2024 20:14 utc | 60
this is a must read article with regard to taiwan…. you’ll appreciate it after you read it..
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thanks to karlof1 for sharing this and to uncle tungsten for drawing it to karls attention.. it’s a must read on this political hot potato..
from substack – WARWICK POWELL JUN 24, 2024
Dire Straits
Posted by: james | Jul 8 2024 23:00 utc | 61
Reply to 35
And then there’s the UK. Folks are asking how the heck Reform got barely any MPs despite their election showing. The French? We may witness one of those rare moments when a**holes actually get what they richly deserve.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 8 2024 23:00 utc | 62
All the best to you, ‘b’! Make a full recovery, what ever it takes. The most important thing for you and all of us barflies, is that you regain full health.
Posted by: a machinist | Jul 8 2024 23:20 utc | 63
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 8 2024 17:08 utc | 47
############
The “No True Scotsman” fallacy is a popular refuge for the mentally deranged and ethically bankrupt.
TL;DR People are often full of crap.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 8 2024 23:35 utc | 64
Have proper rest and recoup b.
Mainly get away from any stress – we will be here when you return.
Like I said a while ago, enjoy a few months of summer.
It would be good to have one open thread and see if we can manage ourselves.
Is it possible to limit comments per person?
That might help from being swamped.
Or to known id’s?
Doesn’t matter – I’m sure we will find other watering holes until you re-open.
We can keep eye on your X, to see if you post something.
All best.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 8 2024 23:58 utc | 65
Dear B., thank you for all your time & effort… get well, sir, Ed
Posted by: Ed | Jul 9 2024 0:21 utc | 66
My thanks as well, b. It is so gracious of you to keep us informed. I am glad we are united in this: we wish you well, not just for our sakes (though there is that) but because in this we are of one mind and heart. Take all the time you need, be a spectator in whatever soothes your soul and heals your body.
The world can wait.
Posted by: juliania | Jul 9 2024 0:33 utc | 67
Bravo Orban!
Finally, an adult emerged in Europe!
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 9 2024 1:36 utc | 68
Orban’s surprise visit to China adds momentum to peace. It puts all the warmongers in Europe/America on the defensive.
The timing is great. The flair is great. The sincerity for peace is great!!! And this may be of great personal risk towards himself. But Orban has the courage to execute this feat. Bravo!
And he was treated with the highest respect in China. His meeting with Xi was at Diaoyutai Guest House, the highest honor venue for small group political shows.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 9 2024 1:43 utc | 69
Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 8 2024 20:14 utc | 60
The outcome of French elections is hardly astonishing, except maybe the relatively good showing of Macron’s bloc (168 seats – not far behind the NFP at 182). Anyone calling this a ‘surprise’ or ‘shock’ result knows nothing about France’s electoral system and political traditions.
There’s no need for any conspiracy stuff to explain what happened.
The entire Left and most of Macron’s bloc agree that a Le Pen government would be a disaster for France, and for Europe. So they tactically withdraw candidates to prevent this. Worked fairly well apparently (not for the first time). nb, the same result would be obtained if voters could mark 1st, 2nd, 3rd preferences (as in some other countries).
My best guess is the leader of the Socialist party, Olivier Faure, will be elected Prime Minister – but that may well take a while. Meanwhile there’s no government in office that could enact more neoliberal “reforms” – or send troops to Ukraine.
Posted by: smuks | Jul 9 2024 1:45 utc | 70
The best news I have red all day
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My best guess is the leader of the Socialist party, Olivier Faure, will be elected Prime Minister – but that may well take a while. Meanwhile there’s no government in office that could enact more neoliberal “reforms” – or send troops to Ukraine.
Posted by: smuks | Jul 9 2024 1:45 utc | 70
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Thanks!
What sort of commitments is Marcon going to make at the NATO gig in Washington starting tomorrow?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 9 2024 1:56 utc | 71
Take care b., there is no rush from here for a too speedy recovery.
On that note and further to what b. explained about his understandable difficulty in reading long articles, one of the parts of b.’s return that I most noticed was the dearth of a weekly ‘reading list’ here at MoA.
So starting from last night my time (about 15 hours ago) I have been posting links to articles of interest on the off topic thread on the MoA Telegram site. This isn’t administered by b., so that it is an unofficial site which has an advantage for Bernard in that it will not cause him any added workload.
I’ve only posted a couple of links thus far. They have been posted as links without comment so as to keep it relatively easy to wade through.
The proprietor of the Telegram site (qubix aka multi-polar panda) is in favour & as well as adding links himself has suggested that if the thread does become too congested with comments we create a reading list sub-thread to the current off-topic thread.
Kicking off it will be on the main thread with the option of moving it to a sub-thread if it is used a lot.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 9 2024 1:58 utc | 72
Posted by: james | Jul 8 2024 15:10 utc | 29
The neoliberals, whether progs or conservos, are closer to the far-right as defined by either Roozvelt or Dimitrov, than any of those they accuse. They want us to forget that their poster child was Pinochet an similar types, since no self-respecting western countries in the era of Keynesianism would adopt such policies.
It was quite gratifying to see the Chinese label Baerbock and her party as “far-right”. Brownshirts who donned their greens and improved their PR courtesy of the Anglo-American regime.
Posted by: Constantine | Jul 9 2024 2:09 utc | 73
red should be read but missed it in 106 degree corner of heat wave going through is my excuse
How hot will it be at the NATO conference, internal/external?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 9 2024 2:11 utc | 74
Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 9 2024 1:58 utc | 72
Thank you for mentioning it.
I’m happy to provide any help over there, just let me know and don’t hesitate to just post. We will figure it out together… one thing is important though: there’s no intention to replace or subvert MoA in any way, it’s just there to provide a backup channel, to exchange links, etc.
If you want to join: https://t.me/FriendsOfMoA
Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Jul 9 2024 2:16 utc | 75
The hasbara troll “phenon” has conveniently failed to explain why the Comintern was against the Zionists, demanding as early as 1923 from the CP of Palestine (almost entirely Jewish) to denounce Zionism in order to be admitted. The Palestinian communists promptly did.
Interesting bit from the hasbara who’s been pushing the narrative that the Zionists are against “traditional” societal status quo. He left out, very conveniently again, Sheldon Addelson (or his widow) or Sir Walter Rothschild and Lord Balfour. Most “traditional” individuals in the imperial societal norms.
Apparently, b has been doing a good job and most of the barflies have been sufficiently alert that the Zionist orgs dispatched a new fascist troll to fill the site with bs.
Posted by: Constantine | Jul 9 2024 2:19 utc | 76
US Election Redux:
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@RobertKennedyJr
likely wins.
Let me explain. If no candidate wins enough states to earn 270 electoral votes, then the next president is decided by the members of the House in Congress per the 12th Amendment. The House members of each state vote between the three candidates with the most electoral votes (which would likely be Trump, Biden or his replacement, and RFK Jr.). Each state gets one vote and, to become president, a candidate needs the vote of 26 states. (For example, Nevada has six members of the House and those six members would decide which candidate gets Nevada’s one vote). But no Democrat or Republican candidate is likely to get 26 states, especially because some states are evenly split between D and R members, there are never-Trumper members in multiple states, Ds won’t vote for Rs, and vice-versa. Hence, the only way any candidate is likely to win is if enough state delegations agree to vote for the compromise candidate, as occurred twice in the 1800s (this is how Thomas Jefferson became President). And the compromise candidate here is RFK Jr.
This is another reason why Trump/Biden are scared to have RFK Jr. in the debate, why they won’t grant him secret service protection, etc., because he can win with only a very small percent of Americans voting for him…
Anyone know if this is correct. Rings fairly true.
@ Scorpion | Jul 9 2024 2:27 utc | 77
Well, it’s theoretically possible for Ukrainian Catholic Gulag survivors and failed seminary students to be elected Pope (quiz time! guess the novels), but equally improbable as this RFK Jr scenario.
Posted by: malenkov | Jul 9 2024 2:51 utc | 78
@ james | Jul 8 2024 23:00 utc | 61
It’s a jolly good laugh that the US expected China to change its ways and become more like a Western country.
Currently we have a Western country (US) with a couple hundred years plus in existence plotting together with Philippines with less than a hundred years as a country, oriented toward besting a huge (and hugely populated) country which has existed over four thousand years. During these years China has developed many inventions, with widespread commerce by land and sea, and unfortunately more recently a hundred years of humiliation by the west (1840-1945). . . So China succeeds while the US fails.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 9 2024 3:09 utc | 79
/cheep
Hi phenon!
I don’t normally mind people sharing just about anything, but this has been a bit too frequent. Sometimes it really is about the style than the substance. If you truly care about your message topic a little less firehose and more garden hose.
Just a helpful suggestion as our host convalesces. 🙂 Thanks!
/cheep cheep
Posted by: titmouse | Jul 9 2024 3:17 utc | 80
Rest “b”. Mind yourself.
Close the bar. Come back when you are ready.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 9 2024 3:40 utc | 81
b
Forget the bar.
Take as much rest as you need.
Remember the time you took a three years break ?
We can wait.
Posted by: denk | Jul 9 2024 4:34 utc | 83
Should the U.S. intend to launch a global pandemic for the purposes of population reduction and/or genocide, what better mechanism than to plant a bug in a faraway country, to obscure the genesis of the initiating event and to make this appear as if this were out of the U.S.’s control and jurisdiction?
The fact that several selective delivery systems for biological/chemical warfare have already been documented within the borders of the United States adds credence to the perception that a flu planted in another country could be used as a cover for a selective devastation of certain demographic groups within the First World. The declaration of a global pandemic gives the WHO the power to mandate vaccinations, overriding sovereign national law concerning the right of refusal.
SARS ‘comes from China’
H5N1 ‘comes from China’
H7N9 ‘comes from China’
SARS2 ‘comes from China’
SWINE FLU ‘comes from China’
Economic reset, Big PHarma bonanza, culling useless eaters,…
Mission accomplished
China gets the flak,
The perfect crime.
https://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/united-states-accused-of-planting-avian.html
…..
Posted by: denk | Jul 9 2024 4:37 utc | 84
Scorpion | Jul 9 2024 2:27 utc | 77
Your query about US elections is another example of your entrenched laziness and lack of personal responsibility to educate yourself using the tools readily available to you Ashley. I suspect it’s directly connected to you being born with a silver spoon in your mouth, never needing to work at anything, or achieving anything yourself, and that you still living off that to a manor born privilege.
Scorpion | Jul 8 2024 16:09 utc | 297
… though frankly if some other posters had better manners and could refrain from childishly gratuitous insult there would be far less tension at the bar.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/07/open-neither-ukraine-nor-palestine-thread-2024-158/comments/page/3/#comments
Every critique of your commentary you declare a gratuitous insult. It’s your go to defence and like your commentary Ashley it is hollow. You are as close to being a genuine Buddhist as Hitler was. Maybe you’re a vegetarian like he was, who knows, who cares. You are a fraud Ashley, a fake. You speak out of your mouth six ways to Sunday. Anyone who knows the definition for sophistry recognises it in your comments easily. The monarchist and fascist views are clear as day. Your almost total ignorance of known history on the topics you speak are as clear as day. Your biases plain. Your opinionated self-serving superiority is obvious. The lack of reason and insights, lack of logic and knowledge base are undeniable. These are not insults Ashley. These are objective observations, often known as self evident facts contained in the comments you make yourself. You are an open book. You are clearly untrustworthy given all that you have hidden about yourself and what you think and why you think it. Your every word declares you a non-Buddhist and a not knower. History escapes you entirely.
Clearly Ashley you have no idea the meaning of and tranquillity to be found within “Rest in Natural Great Peace”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvo-CCtC3Zs
There are a series of revolutions coming that will readily sweep your ilk to the gutters of history past.
Posted by: Pluto in Aquarius | Jul 9 2024 4:50 utc | 85
poop
Tibetans live a harsh life under ‘CCP’
PeterAu
NOnsense
CPC LIBERated Tibetans from servitude under the Lamas
poop sniff,
shifting the goal post….
Really, it took decades for the Han to lift 700M of their own outta abject poverty
They dont call it prof of outrageous philosophistry for nuthin u know ?
Posted by: denk | Jul 9 2024 5:05 utc | 86
History and narrative, plus the ethical responsibility for the meaning that you give to the past when recounting it. AS well as what sources you use to tell that biased incomplete narrative.
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/philosopherszone/history-and-narrative/103956074
a neat tight 30 minute review of how history happens in it’s reporting.
Many people are aware of these matters, I know I am and have been for decades. eg I know the American narrative is a series of egregious lies. I did not always know this. Ashley is not aware of what he does unless he is designing stories to manipulate others here with perverse intent. Irrespective of intent the output is perverse. Untrue and distorted.
Like someone saying Folke Bernadotte was killed in the King David Hotel terrorist attack, being told that’s wrong, and doubling down insisting it was true. It’s not normal well adjusted human behaviour. It is not respectful of others, it is insulting.
Posted by: Pluto in Aquarius | Jul 9 2024 5:16 utc | 87
Hate ages people. Frau Baerbock looks 55 years old when she is just 43 years old. Similar to Hitler. Hitler was 43 years when he became chancellor but looked over 50.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcSN-fleUKkjxIC6DpcXaa5B0k5geOHcYbMV1qQ9K2qj7ae3PqQflKy1m0mQG4XToljEAe07GyPl28A07fs
https://taz.de/picture/7104537/948/35706718-1.jpeg
Posted by: Nick | Jul 9 2024 5:31 utc | 88
Regarding the French elections, Ramin Mazaheri has this to say.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2024/07/08/like-with-the-yellow-vests-the-french-left-comes-through-for-the-west/
Thoughts?
Posted by: joey_n | Jul 9 2024 6:19 utc | 89
“Every critique of your commentary you declare a gratuitous insult. It’s your go to defence and like your commentary Ashley it is hollow. … Your every word declares you a non-Buddhist and a not knower. History escapes you entirely.”
Posted by: Pluto in Aquarius | Jul 9 2024 4:50 utc | 85
Thanks for that accurate summation. Some have been saying all that in different ways since that poster
came into the bar 27 months ago. Like psychohistorian @ | Jul 8 2024 14:22 utc | 290 on the previous
open thread, I’m pleased that other commenters are realizing what Scorpion/Ashley really is.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 9 2024 6:37 utc | 90
…the mental health side of me is a concern owing to my inability to shut myself off from the absolute madness engulfing us.
@ Eoin Clancy | Jul 8 2024 14:14 utc | 15
I think you’re on the right track: shaking up routines which drive you crazy.
For those accustomed to a search for meaning in life, meaningless times are bad for the brain, which is left to run around in little circles and atrophy. In my own choice of self-therapy to salve the meaninglessness, I’ve turned to philosophy, to poetry, and most intensively to mathematics, of all things. Strenuous exercise for the mind to keep in shape, like working the body enough to burn off the baby-fat.
My short-term goal is to understand the algebraic tricks with limits they cooked up to describe motion: derivatives and integrals. Taking my time, along the way, I’m learning more about truth every day. In particular, mathematical study teaches you to distrust your hunches. In the correct answer, there’s always something counter-intuitive. The confusion started when zero invaded the number system.
This mathematical exercise seems appropriate for a bar:
How I like a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.
These word-lengths form a 15-digit mnemonic for pi: 314159265358979.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 9 2024 7:13 utc | 91
I am not trolling whatsoever quite the inverse in fact if you read the words in the link above the entire modus operandi of the zionists in the present time is exposed by a zionist writing.
Posted by: phenon | Jul 9 2024 7:28 utc | 92
US is preparing to intervene in the Georgian elections, according to Russian foreign service SVR. White House is planning a massive campaign aimed against the ruling Georgia Dream party.
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 9 2024 7:48 utc | 93
Le penn is pro imigaration.
Farage is pro imigration.
Trump is pro imigration.
Self interest, getit.
Add to that list, netinyahoo is pro Hamas terrorists (not terrorists)
Any one who dosent follow that logic is a tool. In both senses of the word.
Lets call that ‘ (Geo political Triganomatry’) (copy right mark2)
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 9 2024 9:01 utc | 94
Now think about…
‘The Matrix’ and ‘Nemo’
Which one are you or part of.
Free your mind.
Lets add another layer to our matrix…
If they were against imigration and refugees.
Why do they wont to start wars in other countrys.
Why do they want to ecanomicly exploit over countrys creating povety ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 9 2024 9:16 utc | 96
“These word-lengths form a 15-digit mnemonic for pi: 314159265358979.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 9 2024 7:13 utc | 92”
Impressive!
Posted by: Mary | Jul 9 2024 9:56 utc | 98
News from the USA’s bitch in the southern hemisphere, Australia.
Australia to build Top Secret cloud in AWS for military and spooky users
“Interoperability with US infrastructure a big selling point”
https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/04/australia_aws_top_secret_cloud/
“The announcement states the cloud will require a spend of up to AUD$2 billion ($1.35 billion) over ten years. We understand that sum will cover the cost of building three dedicated datacenters, and establishing a local subsidiary of Amazon to run them and the cloud.”
Australia (further) outsources it’s sovereignty to the USA. Amazon will naturally funnel all data to the NSA/CIA despite the promises. It’s legalised under the USA’s CLOUDs act anyway.
Depressingly this is a trend that has been on-going for both state and federal governments. Microsoft’s Azure cloud has infiltrated much of the branches of Australian government. Any data the Federal, State or councils have is probably stored or processed by Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, etc, which naturally becomes USA’s data.
Australian military to buy small US-made lethal drones being used by Ukrainian forces
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-08/australian-military-to-buy-small-american-made-lethal-drones/104069310
“Details of how many of the American drones Australia will purchase and at what cost remain unknown, although the Switchblade 300 is believed to cost between about $90,000 and $120,000.”
The details of how many and how much was paid is kept secret for the protection of the MIC, and to stop China and Russia laughing at the Aussie suckers.
Prime minister names Jillian Segal as first Australian anti-Semitism envoy
By political reporter Jake Evans
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-09/jillian-segal-named-anti-semitism-envoy/104074590
“Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has named Jewish lawyer and business leader Jillian Segal as the nation’s first anti-Semitism envoy, in response to the rise of Jewish people being targeted amid the ongoing Israel-Gaza conflict.
Ms Segal is an accomplished lawyer with extensive business experience, including as deputy chancellor of UNSW, serving on the board of the National Australia Bank and as a president of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry (ECAJ).”
Great to see the Australian government spring into action to protect the feelings of the Zionist terrorists whilst they commit genocide freely.
Posted by: Friend_of_MLK | Jul 9 2024 10:01 utc | 99
Posted by: smuks | Jul 9 2024 1:45 utc | 70
(No conspiracy necessary to explain the counter-intuitive reduction in RN’s July 7 share of the total votes cast)
I beg to differ. In Oz, both the Liberal and Labor Party members of the ruling duopoly are Jew$lave$ and oppose pro-Palestine protests. And it’s the same in every country in the ‘Christian’ West.
It was a simple task for The Lobby in France to tap its Jew$lave$ in the parties it ‘influences’ to arrange an anti-RN smear campaign to tilt the balance away from RN.
It wasn’t as successful as The Lobby had hoped but it was good enough to erode the anticipated ranking of RN as Number #1 vote catcher.
As an aside, when the genocide in Occupied Palestine began to inflame public opinion in Oz against Jewrael, bought and paid for PM Albinese delivered a very stern lecture to Aussies about what lovely people jews are.
It’s not the end of history but it’s going to take a long time to cleanse Western Politics of ‘Israeli’ influence.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 9 2024 10:03 utc | 100