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July 6, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-158
News & views not related to the wars In Ukraine and Palestine …
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Biden won’t give up so easily. Most likely the far-left will win the elections again. Posted by: AI | Jul 6 2024 15:37 utc | 1 Biden won’t give up so easily. Most likely the far-left will win the elections again. Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 15:44 utc | 3 War drums, both in the Muddle East and in and around Ukraine appear to have somewhat muted their beat. Is this the lull before the storm? It is not impossible to calculate that the Israeli “general staff” has finally gotten through to Nuts n’ Yahoos that an assault on Lebanon would be a case of terminal cancer for the Zionist Entity. The battles in the Donbass and surrounds are still hot and heavy. However, the possibilities of Western intervention seem to be fading somewhat…possibly connected with the ruptured republic’s November (S)election. Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 6 2024 15:46 utc | 4 Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 15:44 utc | 3 Posted by: AI | Jul 6 2024 15:52 utc | 5 Posted by: AI | Jul 6 2024 15:37 utc | 1 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 6 2024 15:59 utc | 6 @ aristodemos | Jul 6 2024 15:46 utc | 4 Posted by: james | Jul 6 2024 15:59 utc | 7 Biden is set to hold a meeting on the sidelines next week during the USA-led neo-NAZI nato summit with terrorist, comedian and usurper zelensky. Apparently they will also discuss providing country 404 with air defense systems, the continuing support for the Zionist project and the genocide in Gaza as well as the way forward on how to contain the mighty People’s Republic of China as a matter of survival, national security and preservation of democracy and human rights. Posted by: AI | Jul 6 2024 16:37 utc | 8 My deconstruction of the US oligarchic Project 2025 plan, produced by the Heritage Foundation. Donald Trump may be trying to disassociate himself from this but he is tightly linked to the Heritage Foundation and his Agenda 47 closely matches Project 2025. Project 2025 represents the oligarch plan to remove what is left of democracy in the US and independent thinking and public-spiritedness in the state apparatus, to produce what Hamilton fully envisaged; unchallenged rule by the oligarchy for the oligarchy. With a significant tilt toward the domestic oil and gas producers that form a significant part of Trump’s donor base (and that of the Heritage Foundation). @Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 6 2024 15:59 utc | 6 It is about an issue b don’t really want to talk about so much, but once he made an article about that vax adaptation of the national health institutions was on purpose shifted till after the elections in 2020 to not give DT an advantage because of his warp speed program. This got proven now. By the long story of publishing the corona protocols of the German RKI. This is an article in German about this. In the last part there is the proof for b‘s observation. Not just because of this I think we are not finished with this topic. Posted by: rico rose | Jul 6 2024 17:04 utc | 11 Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 6 2024 14:37 utc | 242 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 6 2024 17:07 utc | 12 Biden won’t give up so easily. Most likely the far-left will win the elections again. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 6 2024 17:10 utc | 13 Project 2025 represents the oligarch plan to remove what is left of democracy in the US and independent thinking and public-spiritedness in the state apparatus, to produce what Hamilton fully envisaged; unchallenged rule by the oligarchy for the oligarchy. With a significant tilt toward the domestic oil and gas producers that form a significant part of Trump’s donor base (and that of the Heritage Foundation). Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 6 2024 17:16 utc | 14 I’m going out on a limb here, even before reading this ‘tell it like it is’ from Michael Hudson: Posted by: juliania | Jul 6 2024 17:28 utc | 15 Posted by: juliania | Jul 6 2024 17:28 utc | 15 Posted by: KMRIA | Jul 6 2024 18:01 utc | 16 I think we are not finished with this topic. 11 Posted by: furies | Jul 6 2024 18:03 utc | 17 The anti-communist “left” of the 1970s were more libertarians and non-communist “critical” scholars. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 6 2024 18:08 utc | 19 @12 addendum (to scorpion) Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 6 2024 18:08 utc | 20 Posted by: rico rose | Jul 6 2024 17:04 utc | 11 Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Jul 6 2024 18:09 utc | 21 US information operations have launched a carefully timed probe into Chinese Olympic swimmers involved in an alleged doping scandal. Despite officials from WADA claiming the allegations are “utter nonsense”, the US Congress has appointed an “anti-doping regulator” who has already made up his mind and will ensure headlines focussed on Chinese “cheating” will run concurrent with the Olympic competitions. Posted by: jayc | Jul 6 2024 18:17 utc | 22 Posted by: juliania | Jul 6 2024 17:28 utc | 15 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 6 2024 18:23 utc | 23 /cheep Posted by: titmouse | Jul 6 2024 18:30 utc | 24 Meanwhile, everyone’s favorite Real Roman Catholic, Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 18:58 utc | 25 This is a dystopia where individuals are suppose to stay safe all by themselves without help from the government (LITERALLY WHAT THEY ARE FOR) and the very concept of ‘public health’ has been beat to death by phony ass libertarianism. Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 19:07 utc | 26 @nemesiscalling: thank you for both interesting, multi-faceted posts. Couple of clarifications: The “far left” was wiped out in the US during Woodrow Wilson’s 1917-1921 fascist state, and then the “not so far left” wiped out by McCarthyism in the 1950s. The anti-communist “left” of the 1970s were more libertarians and non-communist “critical” scholars. Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 19:19 utc | 28
I imagine the situation is that he is definitely on the way out but is negotiating protection for himself and his family before doing so whilst ensuring he doesn’t overplay his hand and invite a lethal shot (injection) in the dark. His brother, sister and son all need such protection as well. I suspect his only leverage is that just as they have dirt on him, he has dirt on them and has made arrangements to have it released if he is not well treated. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 6 2024 18:08 utc | @ #20 Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jul 6 2024 19:49 utc | 30 “In Hegel’s conception of World History, there are World Historical Figures, such as Socrates, Jesus, Genghis Khan, Caesar, Napoleon, Putin???) that arrive on the scene announcing a new paradigm, whether they are conscious of this or not.” @ malenkov | Jul 6 2024 15:44 utc | 3 Posted by: despondent | Jul 6 2024 19:57 utc | 32
About that brain damage… Posted by: 2+2=5 | Jul 6 2024 20:08 utc | 33 Posted by: juliania | Jul 6 2024 17:28 utc | 15 Everyone must make their own choice this year. And stay out of the sun as much as possible. Best wishes to us all. Posted by: snake | Jul 6 2024 20:14 utc | 34 Don’t expect Biden to walk away soon. . .some words from a “background press call yesterday (Jul 5) Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 6 2024 20:21 utc | 35 Larry Johnson posts a good discussion of Biden’s condition, on his sonar21 site. From my own experience of dementia patients, it sounds like Johnson has also had intimate encounters with this kind of thing. His amateur diagnosis of “Parkinson’s Dementia” is definitely in the neighborhood, as he lists the specific symptoms we see constantly exhibited by Biden. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 6 2024 20:27 utc | 36 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 6 2024 20:27 utc | 36 Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 6 2024 20:40 utc | 37 @ lex talionis | Jul 6 2024 20:40 utc | 37
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/07/06/biden-im-running-the-world/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 6 2024 20:49 utc | 38 Posted by: KMRIA | Jul 6 2024 18:01 utc | 16 Posted by: juliania | Jul 6 2024 21:01 utc | 39 33 Posted by: furies | Jul 6 2024 21:16 utc | 40 Do not watch ‘Evil on Trial’ on Netflix. If you ask: ‘why do we need yet another parade of American historians telling us about the rise of Hitler as though he were a monster in utero?’ then watch episode one. The expression that Hitler just ‘wanted to make Germany great again’ was used three times. So you see where it’s headed. Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 6 2024 21:46 utc | 41 Partroklos @ 41 Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 6 2024 21:56 utc | 42 re “Someone needs to talk to Biden” — Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 21:56 utc | 43 The expression that Hitler just ‘wanted to make Germany great again’ was used three times. So you see where it’s headed. Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 21:59 utc | 44 Compulsive quibbling syndrome Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 6 2024 22:11 utc | 45 The expression that Hitler just ‘wanted to make Germany great again’ was used three times. So you see where it’s headed. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 6 2024 22:12 utc | 46 Stein is a Zionazi pretending not to be. No one can be trusted in US politics – the entire body has been infected at every level. Posted by: Matthew | Jul 6 2024 22:14 utc | 47 Only one question remains, do they want to: Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 22:31 utc | 48 I’m not saying its bad in america but ther’s so few sane people there, they found it far easer to lock ‘them’ up. Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 6 2024 22:31 utc | 49 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 6 2024 18:08 utc | 20 and Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jul 6 2024 19:49 utc | 30 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 6 2024 23:47 utc | 50 @ Mark2 | Jul 6 2024 22:31 utc | 49 Posted by: malenkov | Jul 6 2024 23:48 utc | 51 “I felt in the Haaretz interview that was (linked by a commenter when I read it,) that her statements weren’t strong enough, though I know she has taken pro-Palestinian stands elsewhere.” Posted by: jr | Jul 6 2024 23:53 utc | 52 “I felt in the Haaretz interview that was (linked by a commenter when I read it,) that her statements weren’t strong enough, though I know she has taken pro-Palestinian stands elsewhere.” Posted by: jr | Jul 6 2024 23:56 utc | 53 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 6 2024 18:08 utc | 20 Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Jul 7 2024 0:11 utc | 54 The “far left” was wiped out in the US during Woodrow Wilson’s 1917-1921 fascist state, and then the “not so far left” wiped out by McCarthyism in the 1950s. The anti-communist “left” of the 1970s were more libertarians and non-communist “critical” scholars. Posted by: Honzo | Jul 7 2024 0:18 utc | 55 Suggestion for news of the week (from Kit Klarenburg):
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/07/06/keir-starmer-scrutiny-protected-savile/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 7 2024 0:21 utc | 57 Joe Biden Hates Black People Posted by: Menz | Jul 7 2024 0:23 utc | 58 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 6 2024 22:11 utc | 45 Posted by: Honzo | Jul 7 2024 0:31 utc | 59 In regard to “the left is gone”, here an example of the deep intelligence state helping to get rid of Corbyn: Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Jul 7 2024 0:33 utc | 60 In regard to “the left is gone”, here an example of the deep intelligence state helping to get rid of Corbyn: Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Jul 7 2024 0:34 utc | 61 Urks, I’m sorry for the broken double posting 🙁 Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Jul 7 2024 0:34 utc | 62 Denise Wheeler 🌊💙 Posted by: Menz | Jul 7 2024 0:37 utc | 63 Abdurahmane Tchiani reminds me of Steve Biko, a formidable thinker. Posted by: Menz | Jul 7 2024 0:53 utc | 64 @54 panda Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 7 2024 1:04 utc | 65 Re: that quotation above Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 7 2024 1:08 utc | 66 The primary objective of the 1st Summit of the Alliance of Sahel States (ASS), Posted by: UWDude | Jul 7 2024 1:49 utc | 67 Nice summation. The Democrats are about as left as Ernst Rhom at this point. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 7 2024 1:55 utc | 68 Rohm is actually a perfect historical analogy. He was a fascist that was pro LGBTQ before the US came up with that tortured term. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 7 2024 1:58 utc | 69 The EU was too democratic… meet the EPC, or EU/natogrid Posted by: Minaa | Jul 7 2024 2:50 utc | 70 Posted by: 2+2=5 | Jul 6 2024 20:08 utc | 33 Posted by: Cynic | Jul 7 2024 3:42 utc | 71 Biden won’t give up so easily. Most likely the far-left will win the elections again. Posted by: Ed | Jul 7 2024 4:17 utc | 72 There is no “far-left” party anywhere close to winning state power via an election in the United States. If I am wrong, then name the far-left party that is endangering the two capitalist parties that control, and own, the political system in the US. The Democrats and the Republicans are two cheeks of the same ass, i.e. the capitalist ass. which is controlled by billions. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 7 2024 4:37 utc | 73 The Democrats and the Republicans are two cheeks of the same ass, i.e. the capitalist ass. which is controlled by billions. OOPS, should read billionaires. Posted by: Ed | Jul 7 2024 4:48 utc | 74
I had, well … a few glasses of vines. And I told myself not to write anything when UI. But here I am thinking loud. Posted by: 2+2=5 | Jul 7 2024 5:11 utc | 75 I have come to a conclusion that everything around us is a reality show. Posted by: 2+2=5 | Jul 7 2024 5:28 utc | 76 ZH has a posting up with the tile
The numbers Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 7 2024 5:48 utc | 77 What was Hitler’s goal if it wasn’t “making Germany great”? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 7 2024 6:11 utc | 78 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 6 2024 23:47 utc | 50 Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jul 7 2024 7:02 utc | 79
It is so complex that can not be put in one or two sentences? Posted by: 2+2=5 | Jul 7 2024 9:15 utc | 80 fjb and his horrible family are career criminals with long ties to org. crime, he will look out for number one like he always has. He will NEVER resign Posted by: stale face | Jul 7 2024 9:20 utc | 81 The “far left” was wiped out in the US during Woodrow Wilson’s 1917-1921 fascist state, and then the “not so far left” wiped out by McCarthyism in the 1950s. The anti-communist “left” of the 1970s were more libertarians and non-communist “critical” scholars. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 7 2024 11:02 utc | 83 We do need a new political vocabulary! Thank you, b; and thank you, Michael. Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 7 2024 11:26 utc | 84 @ Posted by: furies | Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 7 2024 11:35 utc | 85 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 7 2024 6:11 utc | 78 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 7 2024 11:38 utc | 86 @ laguerre Posted by: dan of steele | Jul 7 2024 11:38 utc | 87 “For fun I did an I Ching consultation about it ” Posted by: jpc | Jul 7 2024 11:51 utc | 88 Why are so many people so satisfied with the capitalistic system while it is clearly destroying the biological base of our existance? Posted by: vargas | Jul 7 2024 12:52 utc | 89
– Robert Conquest Posted by: jared | Jul 7 2024 13:20 utc | 90 “For fun I did an I Ching consultation about it ” Posted by: Newbie | Jul 7 2024 13:29 utc | 91 Posted by: vargas | Jul 7 2024 12:52 utc | 89 Posted by: snake | Jul 7 2024 13:30 utc | 92 I suspect that Biden administration is simply waiting for right momment – suspect it is planned and orchestrated for max drama. Kamala seems calm. Posted by: jared | Jul 7 2024 13:35 utc | 93 for what its worth, looks like nato, the peaceloving, purely defensive organization, is doing everything possible via their sockpuppets in bosnia i hercegovina to start another war in the balkans. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 7 2024 13:49 utc | 94 We do need a new political vocabulary! Thank you, b; and thank you, Michael. Posted by: Honzo | Jul 7 2024 13:51 utc | 95 However until anyone can answer why I am not dead having refused vaccines and been in environments where I worked with hundreds of peoples daily – until that explanation contradicts my scientific assessment – I say that your position is pseudo scientific bullshit and spreading fear to the gullible. Posted by: jpc | Jul 7 2024 13:52 utc | 96 There are almost no riots, almost nobody questions this society. The rebelion is now more seen as misbehavior like farthing, something shamefull…. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 7 2024 13:58 utc | 97 Roger@9 “…what Hamilton fully envisaged; unchallenged rule by the oligarchy for the oligarchy.” Forgot this. Again, quibbling is compulsive. Jefferson is not as democratic as imagined. It’s not even the slaveholding, it’s the general perspective of the big planter on top of his mountain feeds barbecue and booze to the little farmers, then goes to his club (Congress) or maybe the executive mansion, to save the world with their wisdom. There’s a reason Jefferson’s northern allies were people like Aaron Burr founder of Tammany Hall, Elbridge Gerry(mander) or the Clintons of New York (no, no relation but rich bosses all…nephew DeWitt at least found a project that wasn’t just a boondoggle, namely the Erie Canal.) I’ve wondered for years now if Jefferson didn’t write the Northwest Ordinance to plan for the South to make new states to their west while the non-slavery states would be unable to settle new states to their west crippled by the prohibition of slavery. Result: Slaver stranglehold on the national Senate, at the least. Extremely prescient and politically cunning, yes, but Jefferson was much smarter than I am, so I think he really could have been playing 11-dimensional chess. As I recall, Jefferson was one of those classicist who admired Cicero, the nouveau riche (well, by Rome’s perverse snobbery) defender of the status quo. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 7 2024 14:00 utc | 98 The “far left” was wiped out in the US during Woodrow Wilson’s 1917-1921 fascist state, and then the “not so far left” wiped out by McCarthyism in the 1950s. The anti-communist “left” of the 1970s were more libertarians and non-communist “critical” scholars. Posted by: Honzo | Jul 7 2024 14:03 utc | 99 Re WSWS, forgot to add that the standard of political discourse is so bloody low that even WSWS can provide useful information. That’s not a glowing tribute to them, it’s an indictment of the MSM. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 7 2024 14:03 utc | 100 |
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