<=Jeffrey Sacks P, Tucker Carlson vP as write-ins to allow ballots to be counted by hand, and used to compute and prove the fraud in the digital votes. I am suggesting this method be used to protest corrupt election processes and maybe get enough votes to displace both political parties.

Posted by: snake | Jul 2 2024 13:55 utc | 3

So sorry snake. Write in votes don’t get counted. I watched the Nader count in my precinct way back when. Votes for him were tossed. I kept count though. He got 2.7% of the vote even as a “non-candidate.” To really make a change, you must get rid of Diable-boid, aka the hackable touch screen manipulators. People have been trying for decades to get that done. Insist on paper ballots and get rid of two-party tyranny. A tall order.
I suppose that if Julian Assange can endure twelve years of prison we can keep on trying to clean up the “voting” system.
Cheers.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jul 2 2024 15:04 utc | 5

Yesterday, SCOTUS provided POTUS cover through utterly muddying the legal waters so that, in future, it may be virtually impossible to distinguish official vis-a-vis unofficial,acts done by POTUS.
It’s been suggested by a doctor in American history that we ought to mark our calendars, as this decision may be our “Reichstag Fire event. Chief Justice Roberts tried to smear the dissent as hyperbole!

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jul 2 2024 15:09 utc | 7

The current war is a US invention, funded because the US wanted to reverse the Sudanese Government’s Red Sea port accord with Russia.
“Sudan currently faces the world’s worst displacement crisis, with approximately 12 million people forced to flee due to civil war and over 2 million displaced across borders. This latest expansion increases the total number of African countries receiving large numbers of Sudanese refugees to seven.”

Posted by: Pearce Tournier | Jul 2 2024 15:57 utc | 9

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jul 2 2024 15:09 utc | 7
If you take the time to read the first few pages of the Judgment you will see that your characterization leaves much to be desired.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf
One aspect I found interesting was the Majority’s rebuttal to the Dissent diatribes mainly offering unhinged, inflammatory hypotheticals.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/ouch-supreme-court-majority-zings-sonia-sotomayor-blistering/

Chief Roberts slapped down Sotomayor for ignoring the Constitution.
“Unable to muster any meaningful textual or historical support, the principal dissent suggests that there is an “established understanding” that “former Presidents are answerable to the criminal law for their official acts.” Post, at 9. Conspicuously absent is mention of the fact that since the founding, no President has ever faced criminal charges—let alone for his conduct in office. And accordingly no court has ever been faced with the question of a President’s immunity from prosecution. All that our Nation’s practice establishes on the subject is silence. Coming up short on reasoning, the dissents repeatedly level variations of the accusation that the Court has rendered the President “above the law.”” Roberts wrote.
“The dissents’ positions in the end boil down to ignoring the Constitution’s separation of powers and the Court’s precedent and instead fear mongering on the basis of extreme hypotheticals about a future where the President “feels empowered to violate federal criminal law.” Post, at 18 (opinion of SOTOMAYOR, J.); see post, at 26, 29–30; post, at 8–9, 10, 12, 16, 20–21 (opinion of JACKSON, J.). The dissents overlook the more likely prospect of an Executive Branch that cannibalizes itself, with each successive President free to prosecute his predecessors, yet unable to boldly and fearlessly carry out his duties for fear that he may be next. For instance, Section 371—which has been charged in this case—is a broadly worded criminal statute that can cover “‘any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of Government.’” Roberts wrote.
Roberts said the Framers did not intend to leave the preservation of our system of separated powers in the hands of prosecutors.
“The enfeebling of the Presidency and our Government that would result from such a cycle of factional strife is exactly what the Framers intended to avoid. Ignoring those risks, the dissents are instead content to leave the preservation of our system of separated powers up to the good faith of prosecutors,” Roberts wrote.
OUCH.

Of course, that is a partisan publication but most of the above is direct quote from Roberts who is by no means a MAGA Judge or Trump supporter.
IMO we are witnessing a post-constitutional state which has not yet transitioned into what it will later become. Perhaps we are witnessing a genuine struggle for where it will end up but also it seems there is an attempt to restore the old republic which some believe not yet lost. Jefferson said that a republic once broken cannot be mended, and I tend to agree in the sense that an egg, once broken, cannot be put back together again.
The 2020 election was an unholy mess which this Judgment doesn’t clean up but it does help by determining that the Defendant’s actions whilst President need first to be carefully scrutinized as regards whether or not they qualify as ‘official’ Presidential acts and so immune from prosecution. Some things the Court clarified: discussions with VP Pence or his A.G are immune. Other things are yet to be determined like conversations with his campaign staff or Secretaries of State viz election results. Those issues must first be clarified in the Lower Courts before prosecuting a President who is indeed granted special powers under the Constitution as laid out succinctly in the Judgment; such clarification was not done yet in the Lower Courts so the Judgement rightly and helpfully determines that they must now do so. No big deal.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 2 2024 16:09 utc | 11

From Bloomberg

Clogged Bank Balance Sheets Cause Key Repo Funding Rate to Spike
A key rate tied to the day-to-day borrowing needs of the financial system hit the highest level since the beginning of the year as chunky Treasury auction settlements and clogged primary dealer balance sheets curbed lending capacity.
The Secured Overnight Financing Rate spiked seven basis points to 5.40% on July 1, according to Federal Reserve Bank of New York data published Tuesday. That matches the highest fixing in the six-year-old benchmark reached on Jan. 2 and and Dec. 28.
more ==> “>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-02/clogged-bank-balance-sheets-cause-key-repo-funding-rate-to-spike

Rates are going up.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 2 2024 16:37 utc | 13

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jul 2 2024 16:34 utc | 12
Fair enough, though you have changed arguments: first you said that they muddied the waters about distinguishing between official and unofficial acts (to which I offered objection); now you say it’s all about bolstering Presidential power even though they denied Trump’s assertion of absolute immunity by sending much back to the lower courts.
That said, Thomas’s objections to Jack Smith’s status signal that all those cases, if their Judgments get up to SCOTUS, will be (rightly) vacated.
I think it best to reduce all prosecutions of Presidents for actions taken during their terms to the impeachment process, not criminal or civil courts. But what about things that happen outside their terms? As the two cases in NYC demonstrate in spades, an ex-President can be prosecuted for bogus charges in a politically partisan jurisdiction for actions not protected by Presidential immunity. By not granting unconditional immunity as Trump requested, SCOTUS has ensured that more such law suits can be prosecuted in the future.
Probably correct, but also a shame because it’s way too easy for ex-Presidents to be prosecuted for BS crimes no matter the damage done to the nation pursuing such shallow, partisan ends. Because the US political milieu now lacks mutual good will and honour without which any system soon becomes degraded. In short, the sh*t show will continue and the republic further coarsen.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 2 2024 17:15 utc | 15

For the Australians and Brits here. In senate hearings in Australia, shoebridge questioned defence to find out defence has known since march that Israel destroyed British and Australian soldiers graves in gaza. This has been kept quiet to stop any public discussion about desecration of grave sites by the Zionist entity

Posted by: Hankster | Jul 2 2024 17:24 utc | 17

Posted by: too scents | Jul 2 2024 16:37 utc | 13
Interesting info, thanks. In the past, shenanigans in the overnight rate have been a precursor warning of impaired collateral sitting on bank balance sheets, when banks no longer entirely trust the collateral being posted by their counterparties.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 2 2024 17:26 utc | 19

In addition to extending absolute immunity to ex-presidents for criminal acts, the Supreme Cesspool decision does also muddy the issue by adding presumptive immunity rendering a presumption against any prosecution. Further, the highest turds in the land also barred producing conversations and emails and memos within the government as evidence. The purpose was to handicap even the possibility of prosecutions for crimes at any time. Lastly, these creatures also explicitly articulated a principle that presidents had the inherent ability to take actions that are extra-legal or extra-constitutional when he deems it necessary.
No, the decision was as much a blank check as possible for Trump’s “Day One” dictator for a day (wink, wink, shrug, shrug.) It will probably turn into a sui generis decision if a Democrat is elected of course. Also of course, the really essential aspect is likely just kicking any prosecutions for Trump till after the election.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 2 2024 17:38 utc | 21

Joe is an anchor around the Dems neck.
Good odds that they take Joe to Dallas to ride in an open top car.
Garner sympathy and blame the MAGA deplorables. Or just go full martial law and suspend elections indefinitely.
“well, it might work” (Reagan)

Posted by: saner | Jul 2 2024 17:52 utc | 23

So the warmongering bullyboys club Nato will hold its Summit from July 9th to July 11th.
Genocide Joe Biden the head of the snake, has said that the failed Neo-Nazi state of Ukraine won’t get a membership of the Thieves Kitchen aka (Nato)-infact the failed state didn’t even get an invite to the Summit last year.
One wonders if there will be an introduction to Nato’s new Lord Haw Haw, Mark Rutte, who will replace Stolt the Dolt later this year as the Thieves Kitchens new propaganda mouthpiece.
We need to prepare for further hardship as the (CFR) Council on Foreign Relations a long established deep state milieu, has called for Nato allies to greatly up their defence spending.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 2 2024 18:18 utc | 25

too scents | Jul 2 2024 18:23 utc | 26
Bankruptcies will pile up like leaves in Autumn would parse better.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 2 2024 18:25 utc | 27

Scorpion, your arguments sound sensible (although I don’t agree). Additionally, Chief Justice “I’m stuffed to my fishy gills with baloney” Roberts, tries to sell us the pretense that presidential power is at risk, and this distortion of history is just too mangled to draw out any words from me.

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jul 2 2024 18:50 utc | 29

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jul 2 2024 15:09 utc | 7
##############
As Saint Obama once smugly said, “Elections have consequences.”
The great thing about the completely irrational and arbitrary American system is that despite it being so conflicted and destructive, it still generates a healthy crop of tears from the salt mines of people who don’t like decisions.
Blind people who think they will rage, rage against the dying of the light. LOL
Like the decision, don’t like the decision? Doesn’t matter. America qua America is toast.
That we’re even talking about the ruling is like trying to glean prophecy from the entrails of an animal that succumbed to parasites.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 2 2024 18:55 utc | 31

Patroklos@30 True. I would add that when analyzing ancient republics or modern (bourgeois) democracies, you always have to ask, whose republic? whose democracy? Aristocrats like Tacitus keenly felt how the emperors could violate the privileges they had as aristos. And they condemned the tyranny of those who they believed were unjustly killing and seizing the property of aristocrats. Such people were not to suffer like the masses, not in their own minds. One reason for the relative lag in perceiving the death of the republic or democracy is their inability to see it until its absence hurts them.
Also, it does make a difference to ordinary people’s lives when naked violence is used to settle dispute among the aristos, or later when settling disputes over the imperial succession. The wars of Julius Caesar and his adoptive sone/grand-nephew Octavian meted out their inordinate share of misery to the peoples they fought over, not just in Italy but abroad. In daily life an orderly way to resolve disputes among the ruling class, one function of the republic/democracy. The everyday tyranny of the social order, the rule of this property or that, continued. But even that could be slightly ameliorated for a few as part of the intraclass struggle of the rulers, according to how expedient temporary and limited concessions could be used for their advantage. Also, the reluctance of masses to start a civil war has repeatedly served as a kind of consent to the class rule…until a crisis inspires people with the necessity and hope of winning.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 2 2024 19:13 utc | 33

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Jul 2 2024 17:32 utc | 20
Thanks. Interesting and good writer.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 2 2024 19:19 utc | 35

Jeff Childers is a strong lawyer who advocates and litigates against government overreach (vax mandates, etc), and he’s an excellent source for understanding what the Supreme Court has actually done. You can read his analysis here:
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/devastating-tuesday-july-2-2024-c
In sum, the Court has hugely reined in administrative-agency overreach and returned the rule of law to the courts, where it belongs. It also redefined the 6-year statute of limitations to date from the harm caused to a plaintiff by a rule rather than the issuing date of the rule – lots of lawsuits valuable to liberty coming from that one.
Further, the Court created a 3-tier framework for Executive immunity, one which diminishes Presidential power and opens the office up to an accountability that was never pressed before: taking what has been a de facto license to do wrong and replacing it – at last – with a de jure constraint against doing wrong.
The Childers post today is worth reading to understand what actually came down from the Court – it’s all very good if you value liberty and the rule of law.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2024 19:31 utc | 37

“The death throes had, however, been long in the suffering, at least since the first use of the senatus consultum ultimum in 121 BC against Gaius Gracchus if not the extra-judicial murder of his brother in 133 BC.
My point is that both the law and intellectual reflection is usually slow to recognize that democracy has left the building, and even slower to admit to the reality that replaces it.”
Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 2 2024 18:51 utc | 30
100% correct -the Gracchi brothers-aristocrats yet just-their failure to get the agrarian reforms and block the aristos from taking the arable farmland was indeed the beginning of the end of the Roman Republic-the start of tyranny before anyone recognized the fact..
In modern times I believe the CIA assassination of Kennedy-the archives are still classified- that was the modern equivalent.
An excellent post-when did you get so wise?

Posted by: canuck | Jul 2 2024 20:14 utc | 39

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2024 19:31 utc | 37
Thank you. Best I read on it yet.
I am not as sanguine as the author. By opening the door to Presidential prosecutions, including in parochial County jurisdictions, the breakdown of any semblance of a well functioning leadership class managing a well ordered mutually respectful civil society is all but guaranteed. End times indeed.
As the great Ship of State begins slowly sinking the passengers will be so preoccupied flinging Writs and Briefs at each other that by the time they look up as water begins lapping at their ankles, the lifeboats will have long ago floated away of their own accord into the Great Void awaiting us all!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 2 2024 20:29 utc | 41

OK,I own up. IMO, SCOTUS is unnecessary. Justice Douglas said it was a part-time job, for which he was told to hush up!

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jul 2 2024 20:40 utc | 43

Only one day left to what they laughing call a UK election.
But heres the truth hear it and weep for the coming world reality… just over30 mins
A MUST HEAR.
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2024/june/17/lowkey-exposes-the-israel-lobby-in-keir-starmers-labour-party
Also relevent to US fake choices.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 2 2024 21:42 utc | 45

fnord@34 Is the statement universal suffrage was only obtained in the 1920s a typo? White manhood universal suffrage spread after the Revolution, later prevailed across the entire North in the 1820s> (The victory in the second revolution against the British empire, aka the War of 1812 was naturally followed by a movement to the left, at least in the North.) Woman suffrage did mark an advance in the 1920s, but true universal suffrage didn’t come to the US till the 1960s. (Political conservatives are still trying to ameliorate the effects.) If not a typo, the 1920s is either too late or too early. Incidentally, the division of electoral districts into plurality single-seat representation, where the largest vote-getter, rather than the majority even of the vote, much less the electorate is possibly even more important to undermine majority rule than legal privileges for the two “parties,” who might as well be labeled Ins and Outs in most districts. Districts competitive in the general election are the minority.
Grieved@37 Is this the Jeff Childers pushed by the Epoch Times, an anticommunist “news” outlet of the Falun Gong? At any rate, Childers is entirely wrong in his version of the ruling against long-standing Chevron decision. It is an opinion, not a fact, that Congress cannot delegate any administrative authority to execute functions established by law. It’s like saying Congress needs to write a new law to set the Federal funds rate or the bank reserves required. Worse, even if you accept this absurdly restricted notion, the courts are not the ones to write such law That is genuine overreach. And lastly, encouraging a flood of lawsuits is not advancing freedom except for the people who have the money to pay lawyers and go judge-hunting. Similarly, the claim that the Supreme Cesspool has set a de jure standard for the President’s privilege doubles down on the ludicrous assertion the courts are the only legitimate lawmakers. Every indication is that Childers is just a commonplace liar, not an acute analyst. The rule of judges is not the rule of law!
canuck@39 errs I think in forgetting that the aristos had already seized most of the land. They did it under color of law buying out small farmers using the advantages usual to those who have money during bad times, which keep on coming back. The Gracchi “merely” wanted to distribute part of the public lands to the deserving landless instead of selling it to the already rich. Other parts of popular program include cancellation of debts and price controls/subsidies on food. (Political conservatives still rant against the “bread” in the pejorative phrase, “bread and circuses.”) The only time I recall any popularis in the Republic successfully carrying this out was Julius Caesar…who of course did not actually do so on a large enough scale to threaten the aristocrats. They killed him anyway. Land “reform” that consisted in giving lands to some politicians’ veterans of their personal legions doesn’t count in my view. The notion the ancient populares could have saved the Republic if they weren’t killed founders I think on the fundamental absurdity that a system rigged for the upper classes can be reformed by some simple fix. The modern version of populism, with its demands for soft money, antitrust and price controls/subsidies for essential items (like railway shipping back in the nineteenth century or social welfare spending) similarly universally fail in a capitalist system. The Gracchi couldn’t see the tyranny in the system, nor do modern populists. That’s why so many stars of populism turn out to be frauds or sellouts.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 2 2024 21:57 utc | 47

Given all the stuff devoted to big headlines this year’s emphasis on science has been somewhat ignored. This new Global Times article, “CAST unveils top scientific, engineering questions for 2024” will also join that unfortunate trend due to the few postings on this thread (China Association for Science and Technology). The two-part article I provided, “Russian Academy of Sciences 300th Anniversary & Science and Education Council Meeting” and “Russian Academy of Sciences 300th Anniversary & Science and Education Council Meeting Part II”, were the least read of the year so far, yet articles about Russia’s education system are well read.
The CAST article spells out China’s goals which should no longer surprise anyone for their degree of sophistication and relation to improving the human condition. Again, the ability and willingness to commit significant budgetary resources to science reflects the degree of China’s civilizational advancement.
Simply stated: Rent seekers don’t do science and care little about technological advancement.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2024 22:01 utc | 49

JulianJ | Jul 2 2024 18:59 utc | 32
Passerby | Jul 2 2024 20:57 utc | 44
The rumours seem part of “Moscow considering giving long-range weapons to enemies of US”.
I was wondering who that might refer to – only Houthis and Iraqi militia came to mind.
Here’s MEE on the issue (Which Newsweek quotes):

In Yemen, Russian President Vladimir Putin has considered providing Houthi rebel fighters with anti-ship cruise missiles, a senior US official told MEE, citing intelligence, and speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive report.
Providing arms to the Houthis, however, is potentially more sensitive than aiding Hezbollah because of Russia’s efforts to court oil-rich Gulf states.
According to US intelligence, Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman intervened to stop Putin from providing the Houthis with missiles.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-officials-concerned-israeli-offensive-hezbollah-could-drag-russia
Also, this:
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240702/yemeni-houthis-vow-uss-theodore-roosevelt-primary-target-once-it-enters-red-sea-1119222120.html

Posted by: smuks | Jul 2 2024 22:10 utc | 51

Democrat efforts to remove Biden from the ballot continue. Lloyd Dogget of Texas becomes first House Democrat to publicly call on Biden to withdraw from the race. Nancy Pelosi publicly asks whether Biden’s performance at the last week’s debate was an episode, or evidence of a condition?
Mind you, both of these people (and virtually everyone else) knew for years that Biden was demented. They just pretended otherwise and looked the other way. When asked directly about Biden’s cognition, they brushed it off and said he was fine. Now, they can no longer do either.

Posted by: Monos | Jul 2 2024 22:35 utc | 53

Monos @ 53
As we know he’s been i that state for a long time.
He’s there as a puppit president.
So who has been running America.
The American jews and israel.
Backing the ukraine war and the planned genicide in Palistien.
Hat tip to @ Librul.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 2 2024 22:46 utc | 55

Formerly Miss Lacy@48 Electronic voting machines cannot be hacked in the usual sense if they are not connected to the internet etc. Freestanding machines cannot be corrupted from outside. Venezuela has such a system. The people who wrote the code can perhaps bury secret executables and back doors and the technicians servicing the machines who come from the same manufacturer can possibly access those, using them to change results. That is technically merely an argument not to use private manufacturers. But for political conservatives, private rich people who own the voting machines may well end up being a desirable system. Government machines are so apt to have enemy politicians sticking their nose in.
Vote fraud by simply falsifying the vote is fairly limited in the US, probably negligible overall. The real cheating comes in other ways, making sure there is no choice on the ballot perhaps first. Or maybe elections not changing policy much is the first? A variety of techniques lumped together as vote suppression is also important.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 2 2024 22:52 utc | 57

Hankster | Jul 2 2024 17:24 utc | 17
*** For the Australians and Brits here. In senate hearings in Australia, shoebridge questioned defence to find out defence has known since march that Israel destroyed British and Australian soldiers graves in gaza. This has been kept quiet to stop any public discussion about desecration of grave sites by the Zionist entity ***
Not a cheep of protest by the UK political establishment despite all its sanctimoniously hypocritical claptrap on so-called “remembrance day” every year.
Or from the jug-eared arsehole in Buckingham Palace, who is supposedly King of Australia as well.
Very much the opposite — they all fervently support (and obey) the Zionazis.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 2 2024 22:56 utc | 59

Barflies curious about Russia will want to download “Russia’s Pivot to Asia 2024 Guide” from this website, https://russiaspivottoasia.com/downloads/russias-pivotto-asia-2024/

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2024 23:06 utc | 61

karlof1 | Jul 2 2024 22:01 utc | 49
*** Rent seekers don’t do science and care little about technological advancement.***
Except when it is something that can be used or abused to consolidate their own position.
They tend to be very interested then…..

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 2 2024 23:34 utc | 63

Having considered the various arguments about the USSC’s “Trump Immunity” decision, it seems to me it is reflective of disputes between various parts of the government, and it is unlikely to have any effect at all on the unpretentious masses.
What I remark from that most of all is the inability of government to function effectively to do anything good or useful anymore, it is largely occupied with its internal disputes, and external “enemies”, and that does seem reflective of the disfunction and decay of the Romans; the Founders here always liked to think of themselves as incipient Romans, look at that architecture is Washington DC. (Thank you for that discussion.)
It seems to me that has been the situation here at least since Selection 2000″.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 2 2024 23:43 utc | 65

Cynic, thanks for your reply. @ 60, I hear Hunter was participating in a meeting with Biden and his aides. Maybe they are going to use SCOTUS ruling to their advantage.
Add this to the recent overturn of Federal Agencies authority.

Posted by: Suresh | Jul 3 2024 1:04 utc | 67

Great article via Martyanov, don’t let that put you off.
https://garlandrnixon.substack.com/p/a-debate-that-exposed-political-collapse?r=rdw4&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

Posted by: Suresh | Jul 3 2024 1:55 utc | 69

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2024 19:31 utc | 37
Wow, Grieved — lovely to see you, and thanks!! ‘Coffee and Covid’ – easy to remember, that!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2024 2:20 utc | 71

I have a question: if the Roman Republic was so admirable, why didn’t they have play contests as the Greeks did instead of the grotesque goings on in the Coliseum? Because when it bleeds it leads?

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2024 2:59 utc | 73

Posted by: Wei Wu Wei | Jul 3 2024 2:56 utc | 74
Posted by: Who Am I? | Jul 1 2024 14:51 utc | 168 (for Denk)
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/06/open-neither-ukraine-nor-palestine-thread-2024-150.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3b82621200b#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3b82621200b
Do you have a point?
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 2 2024 0:22 utc | 176
I am only guessing here, but hate to see a fellow left hanging, and think the poster may have felt the content was ‘interesting’ when compared with your many and varied comments recently about Tibet, Tibetan buddhism, Daoists, China, social issues, and your declared ‘disinterest poor knowledge non-bias’ on the topics. There appears to be some conflict between the two presentations. The two perspectives do not quite fit right perhaps?
I definitely found the content ‘interesting’ and not what I would have expected to be the case given your rhetoric here.

Maybe. But he said nothing. And you only hint without making clear points either in response to anything specific I have offered. (Please feel free to do so.) Have often mentioned here that have a background in Buddhism and Daoism, so it’s no secret. Most of the text excerpted is half joking, btw, though all based in truth.
Perhaps what you mean is: I don’t have a big axe to grind about China and Tibet. I’ve never been to Tibet and only visited China for 2-3 months, which I quite enjoyed. I feel China’s treatment of Tibet is bad, that their statements about it are propagandistic, but also that it’s not a big deal – except for Tibetans of course, for them it’s a very big deal. Have some benefits happened since China took over? Sure. But many terrible things have gone down too which they and their supporters deny which denials I do not go along with, nor generally am I a fan of the CCP, though not because of Tibet rather because they are anti-religious materialists and I don’t believe you can build a great society on that foundation nor is it true to their own civilization roots. If am wrong, no big deal, just one man’s opinion.
Denk gets excited by some of my posts and extremely hostile. Have no idea why. I don’t read him anymore thanks to the blocking software. But if you have a question from something I write, feel free to question.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2024 3:13 utc | 75

Posted by: Honzo | Jul 3 2024 3:16 utc | 78
But it’s hard to tell where psyops end and reality begins, no? Like I take it you feel that communism was not a pysop? I would tend to think that it was, and also quite bloody with real casualties, though generally am the same with that story as am about just about everything: half-baffled and half-cynical and rarely certain.
I AM certain that there is a whole lot of malarkey, lying, incompetence, cruelty, greed, civilizational decline. That is clear, about that no doubt whatsoever. But the who’s and why’s…. there have little clue. I also wonder about Russia and China: are they so clean and pure as the anti-Hegemonists seem to proclaim? Am open to it’s being possibly true, but instinctively too cynical to buy it on faith.
Plus Covid was so well coordinated internationally that now am fairly certain that the PsyOp-ers are much bigger than just the ‘CIA’ or whatever. Is the SMO a real conflict? Not sure, though some real casualties again seemingly. Multipolarism? Not sure. Definitely has Psy-opp-ish qualities, not least of which: both Putin and Dugin come from Intelligence and they are the two main leaders of the movement. And Trump was the most successful Reality TV star ever. Just sayin’…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2024 3:32 utc | 77

Vote Fraud in the U.S. is systemic and widespread.
Search these topics
1) Ballot Box 13 and LBJ
2) Walking Around Money
3) vote early vote often

Posted by: Anon | Jul 3 2024 5:12 utc | 79

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2024 3:32 utc | 79
Well, I cling stubbornly to the notion that there is an objective reality out there somewhere, and that real events happen bounded by the laws of causality. At the same time, it’s clear that most of what we ‘know’ about that objective reality is false, on many levels, and while some of that is just a part of the natural process of discovery and the limitations of perception and reason, a significant portion is due to conscious manipulations on a grand scale, some of which are essentially the same as the psyops of five thousand BCE. The gods of the Nile, the Euphrates and the Indus are still with us, though they change shape and sometimes names as suits the needs of the moment of the operators.
In that context, psyops are often more ‘objectively real’ than unremembered objectively reality they replace. Communism is certainly objectively real, unless we are all figments of God’s imagination, but what most people know about it is the intersection of competing psyops.
The Law of Unintended Consequences is also quite real, which means that we cannot always work backward from results to discover that the intentions of some set of operators was. If there’s any merit to dialectical materialism the fact that events are a synthesis of conflicting drives creates a kind of event horizon that we cannot really cross in either direction. The WEF are certain that Marx was right about capitalism and its fundamental contradictions, but wrong about the ‘inevitability of socialism.’ The NWO, or techno-feudalism, is their answer to Marx- there can be a non-communist world-system after capitalism. Well, we’ll see who wins, but technology has certainly made their goals more attainable.
I don’t subscribe to the idea of ‘purity,’ certainly not in politics. However, I think that for historical and cultural reasons that go way back before communism in either country, Russia and China have cultures in which the idea that leaders MUST seek the welfare of their people, and this in not just lip service as it is in the west. They also have better mechanisms to make that happen, although that is not saying much. The west set the bar pretty low.
Over all, I’d say that reality is real, but our understanding is mostly of psyops about that reality. The Goebbels Doctrine (or Bernays Doctrine, to get to the source) of repeating the Big Lie ad nauseum making it ‘true’ is certainly in operation, but always with limited success. And, a good liar has has as much truth in his lie as can fit, so even the psyops acknowledge objective reality to a great extent. The psyop of the western ruling class, however, got too far from reality for too long, and it’s falling apart.

Posted by: Honzo | Jul 3 2024 5:17 utc | 81

Some more “things that would surprise Americans in China”
But first. Imagine them driving along a US interstate highway and seeing the directions on signs repeated below in Chinese characters.
Or the street signs around their homes similarly repeated in Chinese.
And on the trains (do they still have trains there?), the announcements repeated in “Mandarin”?
Well the converse applies in China with much public signage repeated in English, and on the MTR the announcements down south are given in “Mandarin” and Cantonese (with female voices,) and in English (in Shenzhen a male voice with a strong US accent).
And almost all the “do” and “do not” signs similarly (and there are many, the authorities cannot abide a bare wall and have to put something on it — I see them largely as nannying rather than authoritarian). I have a photographic collection of favourites I wish I could show you, some bafflingly mistranslated and others unintentionally funny. For the first, how about “Prohibit altitude parabolic” and the other (not sure if this slang travels outside the UK): no tossing.

Posted by: Walt | Jul 3 2024 5:57 utc | 83

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 2 2024 19:13 utc | 33
Well put!

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 3 2024 7:30 utc | 85

…ignorance or malevolance, and it’s entertaining in each case to choose which applies.
Posted by: Walt | Jul 3 2024 7:47 utc | 90
Usually both. My only question is which has precedence.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 3 2024 8:25 utc | 87

Not targeting anyone in particular…
But, I am constantly AMAZED by the strong emotions that people have regarding places where they have never been.
China comes to mind. Of course.
But there are others. Detroit.MI in the United States. Paris, France. Russia and North Korea.
It’s not just on MoA. It’s everywhere.
I well remember having a heated discussion with a fellow in COSCO in Western Pennsylvania telling me how dirty and filthy China is; how no one has rights, and that the police are goose-stepping everywhere.
When I told him that I lived in China, and it wasn’t like that at all, he just looked at me with this blank state. Like his brain went *tilt*. He had these strange little pig-like eyes expression.
He paused and then continued on his rant.
I’ve never met “president” Biden personally. And so I do not know his situation aside from what I read. And what I read is quite damning.
But…
I watched the debate.
This man has no business running the country.
But, my question is this;
Exactly who is running the United States?

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Jul 3 2024 9:24 utc | 89

Rufus Arrr @ 93
I forgot to answer your last question the american jews and israel are running the show…
The president, the govenment, the media, the military. the universitys. All of it they run
Americans, who are public perseption maniged, even the ones who are not interested in polatics, that has been programend into their mind.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 3 2024 9:49 utc | 91

Vote Fraud in the U.S. is systemic and widespread.
Search these topics
1) Ballot Box 13 and LBJ
2) Walking Around Money
3) vote early vote often
Posted by: Anon | Jul 3 2024 5:12 utc | 81
“Vote fraud”, or “Voter fraud” is fraud committed by individual voters, and is only part of the problem. The term “Election fraud” is wider, and better describes the totality of the problem. Every imaginable method is used, if they think they can get away with it. But the way they control the outcome of the whole election, is by algorithms at multiple levels in the counting process, beginning with “fractional counting” in the voting machines. Many lines of evidence point in this direction. Statistical analysis of the election results show “impossible” anomalies that can only be explained by manipulation in the counting process. One mathematician even credibly claims to have found the algorithms used in at least three key states in the 2020 election.

Posted by: Limert | Jul 3 2024 10:46 utc | 93

Walt | Jul 3 2024 5:57 utc | 85
Would love to see your photo collection.
My favourite was probably a police station marked “Civilized unit”. 🙂

Posted by: smuks | Jul 3 2024 11:34 utc | 95

Education is intrinsically fascist. It’s about grading Human beings. There is kindergarten, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, freshman, sophomore, junior, senior, bachelor’s, master’s, doctorate, post doctorate, etc. Don’t ever get a criminal record or it will all be for nothing. You may owe 100 to 200 thousand dollars in unforgivable student debt in the end.
During all of this, you will be force-fed all manner of subtle mind-warping social propaganda which you will constantly be required to regurgitate in weekly written reports. All this will almost certainly nullify any capacity you may have possessed for original thought.

Posted by: blues | Jul 3 2024 12:45 utc | 97

“S.L. Kanthan
@Kanthan2030
4h
President Putin arrives in Kazakhstan for the annual SCO summit.
Russia was one of the founding members of SCO back in 2001.
Very impactful organisation that’s based on the Shanghai Spirit. “
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Here we go, here we go , here we Goooooo!
Well Barflies , this is the main event of the summer , never mind the various fake selections in the Collective Waste.
This is what all the huffing and puffing is designed to stop people us seeing.
How the multipolar shows it’s backbone. How it will protect all these who wish to escape to that future away from the unipolar yoke and its plans for Humanity and the Planets Resources.
This in my opinion is the Big One after the Xi-Putin summit and the 8000 word statement that emanated from it. This is where it reads the riot act to the centuries long global robber barons and pirates natzios, who are a long sail from the North Atlantic- threatening the Security of the SCO members and the multipolar new Law Based order.
Any attack on any SCO member is an attack on the whole of the SCO who will be treaty bound to come to each others economic, industrial and military aid.
That means as Iran is a full member. An attack on the Lebanon , will provoke Iran, an attack on Iran will involve the SCO – thus joining the RF forces already established in the region would be a huge number of Chinese showing off their huge logistical power in a swift deployment of many tens of thousands.
They will easily destroy the apartheid Nazi concentration camp zionazi mass murderers.
The only thing there was to worry about was if Modi would keep India seating on the Wall, still keeping the subcontinentals tied to the Kings Men and as imperial soldiers that would be deployed against Russia and China .
It seems that Xi and Putin have clutched Modi closer in an embrace that will make it difficult for Modi to be the backstabbing traitor for the unipolarist Rule Maker.
They even gave it a new name RIC.
If India does not want to fall of that wall and break into a thousand pieces that all these kings men, soldiers, natzio carrier groups and hundreds of bases throughout the MENA and Asia won’t be able to put together again. It will be the end of the G7 and the remang delusion of hegemony.
With that happy news a bit of gardening calls.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 3 2024 13:00 utc | 99