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July 30, 2024
Israel Might Well Fall Apart

A somewhat premature comment on the conflict between the Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant and Minister of National Security (and convicted radical) Itamar Ben-Gvir:

10:36 AM · Jul 30, 2024 Hussein @EyesOnSouth1 – 10:36 AM · Jul 30, 2024

The disintegration of the Zionist society is happening earlier than expected. This will exacerbate the more Israelis become aware that war failure is inevitable. Civil war is very likely, but almost a third of the population (liberals & affiliates) would leave rather than fight.

This is not a clash between two officials, this is an ideological clash between two schools of thought who are at the complete opposite spectrum.

This will not stay between Ben-Gvir & Gallant/Halevi, it will become a conflict between the army and the police/militias.

The current conflict between Gallant and Ben-Gvir comes after the Military Police arrested nine soldiers accused of raping a Palestinian prisoner.

The Israeli investigation of the rape became necessary after reports by CNN, the New York Times (archived) and the Washington Post (archived) about prisoner abuse and murder in Israeli jails. The reports threatened to trigger international investigations:

Judicial officials told Ynet that the serious suspicions must be investigated. "An internal Israeli investigation is better than an international probe," the said.

"Abuse of prisoners could cause unprecedented damage internationally. Internal investigations protect Israel from the International tribunals in the Hague. If we do not investigate, we are ensuring the political and military leaders end up before those courts and Israel subjected to grave steps. The suspects were detained for questioning and not arrested. They will receive a fair and just due process."

Lawyers for the suspected reservists denied the accusations of rape and said the prisoner refused a search when he was moved to the Sde Teiman facility and was restrained by force.

To describe a brutal anal gang rape as "restrain by force" requires some chutzpah.

The arrest of the the rapists led to wild scenes at two Israeli military bases:

Israel experienced hours of chaos on Monday after far-right protesters encouraged by ultranationalist politicians from the governing coalition broke into a military base where Hamas militants are detained and another base hosting the Israel Defense Forces military court.

The incidents began when Israel Defense Forces (IDF) military police on Monday detained nine reservists who served in the "Force 100" unit at the "Sde Teiman" military base. Sde Teiman was used as a detention facility for Hamas militants involved in the Oct. 7 attacks, and suspects arrested by the IDF in Gaza have also been brought to the base for questioning.

The protesters then moved to another military base 30 minutes north of Tel Aviv that hosts military police headquarters, an IDF detention center and the IDF court. They broke into the court and tried breaking into the detention center to release the reservists.

The chaotic incidents indicate how much ultranationalists in Israel have been emboldened under Netanyahu's governments, especially after Oct. 7.

It is also a sign of the disintegration of the IDF chain of command and the military's internal law and order, encouraged by ultranationalist politicians who for years called the military a "liberal" institution and said it was part of a "deep state" that needs to be dismantled.

The police, under command of Be-Gvir, did not intervene in the attacks on the military bases.

It will be interesting to see how the conflict plays out if or when the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo orders an attack on Hezbollah in Lebanon:

Israeli ministers authorized Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his defense chief Sunday to decide on the “manner and timing” of a response to a rocket strike in the Golan Heights that killed 12 children and teens, and which Israel and the United States blamed on Lebanese terror group Hezbollah.

Members of the Druze community held funerals Sunday for 11 of the 12 young victims of the strike on a soccer field in the town of Majdal Shams, amid fury and grief over the tragedy, which occurred just steps from a bomb shelter, and already sky-high tensions sparked by 10 months of nearly daily rocket attacks on northern Israel and tit-for-tat strikes in southern Lebanon.

The killed children where Syrian Druze in the Syrian Golan Height which is illegally occupied by Israel. It is doubtful that a Hizbullah missile would have intentionally targeted that community.

Any Israeli attack on Lebanon and Hizbullah will see an equivalent retaliation from the Resistance side. Netanyahoo will be careful. While under pressure from the right to attack Hizbullah Netanyahoo knows that Israel has no chance to win against it in a larger conflict.

Such a conflict would only accelerate the inevitable dissolution of the colonial entity.

Comments

A sincere request.
Could the barfleas please refrain from dissing Elon Musk?
Musk is the bloke who circa 27th May, 2018, tweeted “Who do you think owns the Press?
Hello.”
In the same tweet there’s a multicolor graphic listing the names of the Zionists in charge of each of 12 influential MSM outlets:
CBS, abc, NBC, CNN, NYT WaPo, Huffpo, Guardian, Economist, BBC, Vox and Buzzfeed.
It’s not Elon’s fault that the half-assed distracted ‘truthseekers’ were so busy basking in their own imaginary glory that they missed it. Is it?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 31 2024 8:00 utc | 301

/cheep
Speaking of Big Media, Mainstream Media (MSM), in the West… shouldn’t they too be on the BDS list by this point? Such grotesque carrying water for Zionism’s genocide should carry with it the failure of impartiality expected of the truly professional press. Stenography in service to genocide should get you on the BDS column, yes?
It may be a hard habit to break, but trying to stop citation and reference to these media organs running cover for genocide would be a healthy thing to work on.
/braces harder against the table leg

Posted by: titmouse | Jul 31 2024 8:21 utc | 302

Yes one wonders how cocky and lippy “Israel” will be in 20 years time when today’s young pro-Palestine protesters in the USA run the country. And wash their hands entirely of “Israel”.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jul 31 2024 8:22 utc | 303

Supreme National Security Council conveys emergency meeting (Iran).
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian: Yesterday I waved my victorious hand to Haniyeh, and now I will have to carry it on my shoulders and bury it. Iran will defend its sovereignty and make the invading terrorists regret their cowardly actions.

Posted by: Suresh | Jul 31 2024 8:27 utc | 304

Just when I thought Israel could not get more disgusting they start shoving broom handles into the anuses of Palestinian prisoners. That entire country needs to fall into the ocean

Posted by: C | Jul 31 2024 8:30 utc | 305

“According to a US Department of Defense spokesman, the Wasp amphibious group, consisting of the UDC Wasp (LHD-1), DVKD New York (LPD-21) and the amphibious assault ship Oak Hill (LSD-51), as well as 2500 marines from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Detachment, were ordered to leave the island of Crete and head for Cyprus and the eastern Mediterranean near Lebanon.
There, the team will contact several ships of the British Royal Navy, which are preparing, if ordered, to assist in the evacuation of foreign nationals from Lebanon.”
A “humanitarian” invasion force? A bit like the “pier for humanitarian aid”.

Posted by: Suresh | Jul 31 2024 8:34 utc | 306

Posted by: Menz | Jul 31 2024 7:52 utc | 297
What the fuck? They have already shown pictures of their P-800 onyx missiles. The USN should court martial any officer dumb enough to put any USN ship east of Sicily.

Posted by: badjoke | Jul 31 2024 8:38 utc | 307

I wonder if Nasrallah has planned for the contingency of American warships appearing on it’s coastline?
There’s no going back once the US navy decides to commit to Lebanon.
It’s full regional war unless one side decides to stand down and be pounded out of existence for the convenience of the other.
Reminds me of the Ukraine war: once it kicked off there was no going back, no truce, no surrender possible either.
A game for all the marbles.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 8:38 utc | 308

@ Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 31 2024 8:00 utc | 301
Pull the other one H, it’s got bells on it!
‘Anya Parampil
@anyaparampil
15h
Elon Musk is a member of a member of the global Zionist cult who is now seeking to use his ownership of X to stimulate a color revolution and civil war in Venezuela, a development that will lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions of refugees on the American continent.’
That is just one expert take.
Don’t forget also how he crowed a few year back about the Bolivian coup so he could get the lithium ‘WE will coup whomever we want – Deal with it ‘
They are all horsemen of the Fascist Imperialism Collective Waste – including the fake right sheepdogs and the fake left sheepdogs media reveletors who come together to support a single cause – always FOR THE BENEFIT of the ziofascist masters they serve or ARE.
That’s included the likes of TopCat Carlson and his gruff voiced shock Jocky buddy.
So Hoarsey, don’t come whispering and crying here about giving a break to the naked pimply arsed no longer boy wonder (if he ever was anything more than his mamas boy raised to be King Elon just like that creepy Gates).
His superhero fantasy wheels are falling off in public as they have for many of us here who saw through his shtick as we are blessed with the veritas vino of b’s MoA bar.
The putrid Musk Rat won’t be elevated to the stars or enthroned as the Great Saviour; and his bs genius is nowt more than lipstick for the mass murder supporting Zio fascist turd burglary pig , he is just as likely to be, like most of the controlled mighty.
THEY just pushed the button by that assassiination in Tehran ! By a surgical missile strike!
The US war ships are already on their way. Our Great Knigh Dope Brave Sir Keith is saddled up and the EU is harnessed with the same Nazis as they were before the elections – this Death Trip is hitting the road.
If the world was waiting for a Sarajevo moment to officially kick off a War that will be lost , to get western boots on the ground for the ziofascist Masters – that is it.
Nutty got his minions wound up for it and he had king Elon by his side all the while.
Trump didn’t look happy as he was forced to shake hands with the PsychoNutty either.
The World War is On!! –
Your stinky man baby musk is intimately involved in making it happen – DEAL WITH IT.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 31 2024 8:45 utc | 309

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 8:38 utc | 308
They have P-800 onyx missiles and likely Russian ISR. Might even get some zircons if the Russians really want to see the US 5th fleet to disappear along with half the RN.

Posted by: badjoke | Jul 31 2024 8:47 utc | 310

They have P-800 onyx missiles and likely Russian ISR. Might even get some zircons if the Russians really want to see the US 5th fleet to disappear along with half the RN.
Posted by: badjoke | Jul 31 2024 8:47 utc | 310
Of that I have no doubt.
My concern is for the Lebanese civilians, because the first thing the Americans will do is execute mass bombardments of civilian areas and infrastructure.
In a country where the government has failed to create effective bomb shelters, and presides over a failure of a national army and navy, the civilian casualties will be immense.
A second genocide.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 8:52 utc | 311

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 8:52 utc | 311
Lets hope they got some zircons as well. Harder to bomb people when your ships are sunk and airfields are cratered.

Posted by: badjoke | Jul 31 2024 9:02 utc | 312

@Suresh | Jul 31 2024 8:34 utc | 306
Yes, exactly. They’ve seen no one is challenging their actions so the plan continues, will expand.
They have P-800 onyx missiles and likely Russian ISR.
Posted by: badjoke | Jul 31 2024 8:47 utc | 310
If youtube talking heads say so, it doesn’t make it real. We’ll just have to wait and see, I bet they don’t have anything, only ancient Soviet stuff, not even the newer Soviet stuff. Iran may have developed something against ships on their own, but Tehran just received a missile strike and they have no idea how that happened ( tass.com/world/1823447 )

Posted by: rk | Jul 31 2024 9:08 utc | 313

Honzo 295
Huh? I only said that it might not have been an accident. The Druze seem to have got accustomed to regular accidents from the Iron Dome. Maybe those were also not accidents,
The Jewish mind of my ex wife was to pay her boyfriend #2 to clean the bedrooms so if boyfriend #1 found boyfriend #2 upstairs she could explain it away by telling boyfriend #1 that boyfriend #2 was cleaning the bedrooms.
They took me to the cleaners anyway.
Ha ha.

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 31 2024 9:18 utc | 314

Israel has a BIG problem and that problem is called “Water”. Like every country in the Middle East and North Africa Israel has a growing population. A growing population means a growing demand for water. But at the same time the SUPPLY of water remains the same.
The only country that has recognized that a growing popuilation is a problem for that country’s economy is called Iran. In the 1980s Iran had a policy of producing as much children as possible. This has to be seen in the light of the war between Iran and Iraq (1980 – 1988). In the early 1990s Iran changed its population policy to one of the type called “Not more than 2 children per married couple”. As a result of that change in population policy I consider Iran now to be the most stable country in the Middle East.
In that regard I consider this water problem to be the biggest problem for Israel. And as long as the israeli population keeps growing (at the current pace) this water/population problem is very likely to be the most important reason why Israel is going to explode/implode.
Pass me the popcorn ………………..

Posted by: WMG | Jul 31 2024 9:36 utc | 315

It is now clear what the purpose of the killing of the Druze children in Syrian occupied Golan was:
– The US/Israel have decided to show who is in charge in the ME at a time when it is unclear in who is in charge in both of these criminal states which are losing the current wars they are running;
– The three attacks in one night, in Beirut, in Iraq and in Tehran, where Ismail Haniyeh was killed, are the most serious challenge to Iran and the Resistance Front in the ME and this crumbling world order
– If the Hezbollah top commander was killed in the strike on Beirut, which may well be the case, that would mean that two resistance leaders were killed in one night.
– Israel has killed too many resistance leaders in these 9 months. Clearly, it has excellent intelligence.
– The assassination of the top political leader of Hamas in Tehran is a major victory for Israel which has pledged to kill Hamas leaders as its main goal in the ongoing genocide.
– The US has publicly announced it will defend Israel against retaliatory attacks. In other words, it has challenged Iran and the Resistance to open conflict with the US.
This chain of events was put into motion by the killing of the Syrian Druze children in the occupied Syrian Golan, a false flag blamed on Hezbollah by US/Israel in order to arrange this checkmate position.

Posted by: JB | Jul 31 2024 9:40 utc | 316

but Tehran just received a missile strike and they have no idea how that happened ( tass.com/world/1823447 )
Posted by: rk | Jul 31 2024 9:08 utc | 313
To be fair, ‘israel’ received a drone strike to the heart of Tel Aviv and have no idea how that happened.
Iran’s a big country. Lot’s of room for dangerous weapons to get out … lots of gaps in the armour too.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 9:40 utc | 317

Posted by: JB | Jul 31 2024 9:40 utc | 316
A good analysis. Now all that remains is to see if events pan out as hypothetically the Empire expected them to.
And as we know, they never do.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 9:43 utc | 318

DunGroanin 309
I hope you are not under the illusion that any of the Sunni Muslim denominations are not under the full control of Jewsrael. Anybody who wants power, in spite of the Qur’an forbidding the seeking of worldly power, is with Israel and fully complicit in Israel’s genocide.
Political means seeking power, but many other groups such as the Naqshabandis who are Sufis are enrolled by Saudi Salafists to cause chaos at Jewsrael USUK ‘s command.
Some groups who are not seeking power are cursed loudly by those who are 90% of the journey up Israel’s backside.
When the opposition is with the enemy, who is left to defend justice ? They all want a slice of the cake that will be Greater Israel.
Like it or not, Hamas action on Oct 7 was fully controlled by Israel.
Israel can only sow chaos when it’s opponents fight against it. Under Biden and the Ukrainian Nazi Neocons Israel had a chance to do this Genocide.
The collaborators with Israel feel no pain, because they have already ignored Allah’s command Not to side with Israel. They can only hope vaguely that they will get a share in the Zionist Power.
But Allah has stated in the Qur’an that the Jews won’t give the Muslims as much power as the piece of black pith on a datestone.

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 31 2024 9:54 utc | 319

inshallah

Posted by: zwei | Jul 31 2024 9:54 utc | 320

… Could the barfleas please refrain from dissing Elon Musk? …
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 31 2024 8:00 utc | 301

You’re wasting your time.
If it’s not Musk, it’s Trump, if not Trump, economics, if not economics, anything else wilfully tangential to the thread, from “experts” who won’t take it to the open thread because they’re only sponsored to crap under the tables in current event threads.
Note the protagonists, it’s always the same clown-faces with minimal variation.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 31 2024 10:03 utc | 321

Israel made a missile attack in middle of Tehran.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 31 2024 10:05 utc | 322

Surferket
just now
LOL Israeli raid on his residence in Tehran!
That’s so openly stupid. Like Israel owns Iran. No need for US to bomb Iran sinve Israeli Mossad can walk around and kill anyone in Tehran.
No one to blame but Iran and Hamas for day dreaming. Cant ask for a more stupid group of people to play the Great Game.

Posted by: Surferket | Jul 31 2024 10:22 utc | 323

So is there anyone who does NOT understand that by killing the chief negotiator for Hamas, that Israel, via Netanyahu, does not want any form of Peace?
Each time there is prospective advance in Peace negotiations there has always been a deliberate uptick in aggression by the IDF or IOF.
The stark choice is; the genocide is accomplished by and for Israel, or will the rest of humanity stop it?

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 31 2024 10:28 utc | 324

Suresh@834
Under intense pressure from their primarily Talmudist “donors”, the pro$titicians of both political parties in the U$$A have gone clear bonkers by dispatching a U.$. Navy fleet to the eastern Mediterranean, allegedly to evacuate Westerners from Lebanon.
This move is the epitome of suicidal behavior on the part of a government which is effectually OWNED by Zionist billionaires. They are deliberately placing those ships and sailers into harm’s way. The tottering Zionist regime in Occupied Palestine is desperate and doing all they can to get America to fall deeper into their genocidal war.
Those admirals who, like their Nazi forebears, are “just following orders”…a stance which several German officers took in World War Two and ultimately resulted in their executions by the Nuremberg trials.
It would be far better for our ruptured republic and for world peace, for those admirals and generals to arrest and detain those pro$titicians who have sold their souls for the legendary “Thirty Pieces of Silver” to the treasonous Talmudist billionaires who are inducing them to possibly set off World War III and in the process quite likely destroy the human race.
In addition, all those Talmudist billionaire owners should be arrested for attempting to create a World War by pushing American sailers, marines, soldiers and airfarce personnel into being the attack dogs for the most evil nation on the face of the planet, the psychotic torturers and genociders of the Zionist State.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 10:37 utc | 325

https://t.me/rybar/62294

🇮🇱🇮🇷🇵🇸Details of the death of the head of the Hamas politburo in Tehran
Arabic-language media reports that the attack on the residence of Ismail Haniyeh was carried out by a rocket launched from outside Iran . At the same time, the leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Ziyad al-Nakhal , was on another floor of the same building ; he was not injured.
🔻The assassination of Haniyeh , according to Hamas representatives, could lead to a full-scale war in the region.
▪️West Bank mosques call for escalation against Israel in response to killing of Hamas leader.
▪️Hamas is also asking its supporters around the world to take part in protests.
▪️The Iranian Foreign Ministry has launched an investigation into the attack, following statements by the country’s President Masoud Pezeshkian that “the bond between the two proud nations – Iran and Palestine – will be stronger than before.”
📌By the way, the incident was condemned by the US and Russia, and the President of Turkey stated that Israel would not achieve its goals with such actions.
At the same time, the office of the Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu instructed members of the Israeli government not to speak out on the topic of the murder of the Hamas leader. According to media reports, members of the Knesset (Israeli parliament) received a similar recommendation.
❗️One important nuance cannot be ignored: the Iranians suffered significant damage to their reputation , since a high-ranking guest who had come to the country by invitation was killed on their territory .
📌In any case, the reaction from the so-called “axis of resistance” is (if we put aside all the colorful populist rhetoric) quite restrained: neither side is taking active action yet . After the loud statements in Yemen, they also believed that a new round of war was about to begin. In the end, everything was shut down behind the scenes . Given the nature of the liquidation of Ismail Haniyeh and the huge number of oddities , making any predictions is a thankless task for now . #Israel #Iran #Palestine

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 31 2024 10:40 utc | 326

Hamas military wing statement about the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh –
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/hamas-armed-wing-qassam-brigades-responds-haniyehs-assassination?
Haniye’s three sons, two grandchildren, sister and other family members were killed by the Zionists in the last few months.

Posted by: JB | Jul 31 2024 10:41 utc | 327

The son of Hamas’ political leader Ismail Haniyeh, Abdul Salam Haniyeh, said his father’s killing will not end Palestinians’ resistance against Israel.
“My father survived four assassination attempts during his patriotic journey, and today Allah has granted him the martyrdom that he always wished for,” the younger Haniyeh said.
“He was very keen to establish national unity and strived for the unity of all Palestinian factions and we affirm that this assassination will not deter the resistance, which will fight until freedom is achieved,” he added.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/haniyehs-son-vows-keep-fighting-freedom?

Posted by: JB | Jul 31 2024 10:44 utc | 328

According to MEE, Israel has assassinated the following Hamas leaders over the last 25 years:
– January 1996: Israel assassinated Hamas military leader Yahya Ayyash in Gaza’s Beit Lahiya
– March 2004: Hamas spiritual leader and founder Sheikh Ahmed Yasin was killed by an Israeli strike in Gaza
– April 2004: Yasin’s successor and Hamas co-founder Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi was killed by Israeli helicopter missile strike in Gaza City
– January 2024: Senior Hamas official Saleh al-Arouri was killed in an Israeli drone strike in Beirut
– July 2024: Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas’s political chief, assassinated in Iran’s capital, Tehran.

Posted by: JB | Jul 31 2024 10:48 utc | 329

A sincere request.
Could the barfleas please refrain from dissing Elon Musk?
“Musk is the bloke who circa 27th May, 2018, tweeted “Who do you think owns the Press?
Hello.”
In the same tweet there’s a multicolor graphic listing the names of the Zionists in charge of each of 12 influential MSM outlets:
CBS, abc, NBC, CNN, NYT WaPo, Huffpo, Guardian, Economist, BBC, Vox and Buzzfeed.
It’s not Elon’s fault that the half-assed distracted ‘truthseekers’ were so busy basking in their own imaginary glory that they missed it. Is it?”
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 31 2024 8:00 utc | 301
The bar flies who disk Musk are displaying the same psychosis as the ones suffering from DJT.
Their intellectual blindness is buttressed by their ressentiment for men who actually get things done rather than mouthy Karens just bitching with their keyboards.
Finally, the dopes have no idea that the Du Ponts control Delaware and have for over 200 years and and deep into the neo con tribe and a Delaware DA is suing Musk to stop him collecting his 50 billion dollar bonus duly approved years ago by Tesla shareholders.
Wake up Karens and use your head.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 31 2024 10:51 utc | 330

JB@940
“Checkmate position” on the Axis of Resistance by assassinating a couple of their leaders? Nope. The Izzies are getting desperate, as they are being gradually choked militarily and economically. Meanwhile, the ruling Talmudist bank$ter consortium have succeeded in upping the indebtedness of the U$$A to $35 T R I L L I O N dollars. The whole bloody mess is going down the Big Swirly in a flash-flood.
Do you happen to recall those incidents when Yemen’s Ansar Allah forces slipped a drone into Tel Aviv, forever demolishing Izzy self-confidence?
Then the Yids went and induced the U$ military to provide tanker aircraft to allow them to bombard targets in Yemen. The Houthis have yet to respond to that over-reach. Hezbollah stands like a rock, with their tens of thousands of rockets and missiles. The Hamas resistance in suffering Gaza have succeeded by their barefoot warriors knocking out a solid third of the Izzies’ touted Merkavah tanks. Even Shia Iraqi resistance fighters have sent a few missiles into the Evil Entity.
Do you even begin to pretend to believe that the Resistance will fold due to a couple of individuals being assassinated by the Evil Ones? Clearly, you got another think coming.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 10:54 utc | 331

anon2020@1040
Seems like I recall that you have a habit of casting doubts. Wondering about your perspective. “Iran suffered significant damage to their reputation”. That statement, though in some measure partially true, disturbs me. There are elements of very clever psywar iterations in your commentaries. Do you happen to have a dog in the fight?

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 11:01 utc | 332

surferket@1022
Appears that the Ha$barfas and Sayanim are out in force today.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 11:04 utc | 333

@ Posted by: Giyane | Jul 31 2024 9:54 utc | 319
No G, I am under no illusion about anyone using religion or patriotism or terrorism or false flags or ‘ cool story bro’ as a button push to get ordinary humans to hate and fear other humans for the benefit of a few button pushers.
That was what the Olympic blasphemy was about if you hadn’t noticed. The one that is being removed from the records because it has served its purpose for the Ziofascist Masters – The Clarion of World War.
@Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 31 2024 10:03 utc | 321
You can’t keep the smell of shit on the shoe from dispoiling your home – and there is no way that the billionaire class is NOT initimately involved in the murderous chaos for the Fascist NWO they have long planned.
Any MuskFanbois here glow like the coronas, as they ignore that starlink was launched just in time to be used by the Zionazis war front in the ukraine as it is being in the Sahel and ME – it is a techno war this world wide conflagration – that we have just had the go ahead for.
The ONLY way to stop it before it leads to the expected hundreds of millions dead by war and then the concocted billions more by disease and starvation is to get these gazillionaires where they feel they are safe far from the frontlines- in their boats, planes and deep bunkers and deep sea islands where they have hoarded the worlds Art and are prepped with their children – the Dynastic motivation they are part of.
As I said early in this thread let them disappear mysteriously and so will all our woes.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 31 2024 11:12 utc | 334

Is it possible in this case to say that all the Abrahamic religions are only adapted forms of Judaism from the Jewish priests for the peoples they subjugate?
Does it not follow from this that the entire West and most of the Christian and Muslim East are thoroughly saturated with Judaism, including all kinds of materialistic pseudo-religions such as communism? Jewish programs have been embedded in each of us since childhood…
Posted by: N | Jul 30 2024 22:29 utc | 200
Yes. The facts are undeniable:
1. The Collective West (the exceptions don’t matter) worships a Jewish God.
2. The Religious Cosmology of the West: a Universe created by a Jewish God.
3. The entire Western dichotomy and conceptualisation of good and evil originates in Judaism.
4. It’s laws, ethics, morals are founded on the crude code of morality assembled from fragments of the Old Testament.
Essentially there is no such thing as a Western Culture. It is a blank, faceless thing covered by a thin veneer of dollar-store Judaism (AKA Christianity).
Well, to be fair, fragments of Paganism still remain – which is where the Western conceptualisation of Satan comes in, a bastardisation of ancient forest gods and the biblical antagonist. No longer a serpent, angel or morning star He has been demoted to a mere goat (or for the more enlightened, a bull) and sometimes hopelessly confused with the middle eastern Baal or Moloch.
That is to say, almost all that remains of ancient western culture, trapped within the web of Judaism, is it’s conceptualisation of the Devil.
Some may point to Rome and Greece, but almost all that remains of the ancient greek culture was bequeathed to the west via the Iranian scholars of the Islamic Golden age and it was Rome itself that served as the host to spread the virus of Judaica to the West – by means of the sword.
Even these ancient things have been erased, papered over with Mcdonald’s fries, Hollywood, Hip Hop, Netflix and OnlyFans, FaceBook and Twitter – all presided over by … you guessed it … Zionist Jews.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 11:12 utc | 335

Posted by: canuck | Jul 31 2024 10:51 utc | 330
Yep all the answers are just a cut and paste away, eh?
You know who else belittles and comes up w misnomers for those who dissagree w him? Musk is only solvent because of massive corporate welfare and violence to secure resources. Use your head justin
justin trudeau. You must be a justin.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 31 2024 11:14 utc | 336

Arch Bungle@1112
Thanks

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 11:20 utc | 337

The bar flies who disk Musk are displaying the same psychosis as the ones suffering from DJT.
Their intellectual blindness is buttressed by their ressentiment for men who actually get things done rather than mouthy Karens just bitching with their keyboards.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 31 2024 10:51 utc | 330
LOL! Another sucker who fell for the Musk con.
Here, educate yourself with the facts:
https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/search?query=musk
An entire list of detailed studies debunking almost every Musk ‘initiative’, proving hime to be nothing more than a glorified administrator of government (taxpayer) funds.
And not even a good one at that!
As for “men who actually get things done” – that label applies to a whole class of thieves, swindlers, common criminals. They “get things done” alright, just not in the way permitted to the rest of us peasants without the let of our rulers.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 11:23 utc | 338

re Elon Musk – champion of free speech.
Yesterday I screen recorded my Home Screen. 30+ Pro Israeli propagandist tweets, none of whom I follow, before reaching anyone I follow or a challenge to the Israeli narrative.
A few months ago I got my partner to create an account. I used it to check one of my tweets. I went through every single tweet on the thread including all of those hidden. My tweet was nowhere to be found. It looked normal on my account but publicly completely invisible.
side note. Did the same on Facebook a good few years back commenting on a smear piece of George Galloway by the Huffington Post. I asked why they were ignoring Yemen to focus on smear pieces. Got 23 likes in a few minutes then no more. Went in on my partners account, the comments above and below mine were there, mine was not. It also looked completely normal from my account.
Even the ‘Guardian’ used to let you know when they removed any pro Corbyn/Assange etc comments BTL.

Posted by: andy | Jul 31 2024 11:37 utc | 339

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 11:01 utc | 332
Doubt is reasonable given how often rah rah has turned out to be guff. I have no dog in the fight nor ulterior motive in choosing one source over another, there is no clever psywar iteration in my posts because there is no such motive, no intent to deceive or disadvantage.
The whole text is a cross-post from Rybar, as indicated by the accompanying link, possible negative impact on Iran’s reputation is Rybar’s own observation, probably true to some degree, among a useful summary of what is currently known that may interest this forum’s readership.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 31 2024 11:41 utc | 340

This morning tuned into my local independent jazz radio station and got the NPR feed. This happens, the two stations have a longrunning feud. The jazz station is emphatically not an NPR affiliate and this piracy flouts all sorts of laws but the DuMonts outrank the FCC and the courts and so it goes.
Anyway if someone were getting their news from NPR they would not only be low information and misinformed, they wouldn’t know anything. Nothing. This is where the American elite goes for news and there really isn’t any. Thus, all policy formation goes to specialists and Israelis

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 31 2024 11:54 utc | 341

@ Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 11:12 utc | 335
Good answer to a complex question. Thought provoking.
My take on it is the opposite: Yahweh is not the god of the Christians. There’s clearly big differences between him and the Christian god of the New Testament. I would categorize Judaism – to its credit – as the only tribal, pre-historic religion to survive into the modern era. That may explain how easily Israel has descended into barbarism at the first sign of a crisis.
What makes you correct is your recognition of how modern Christians think. I’m offering a personal opinion, which represents only me. I can complain that Christians are wrong to see their religion connected to Judaism, however that is how they think.
Re: the original question. I suppose that timing wise Judaism came first therefore Christianity/Islam should be derived from it. I’m not comfortable with this idea because I think it elevates Judaism to a status it does not deserve. In its heyday, Judaism was just another religion in a polytheistic world. The Hittite’s had a thousand gods, the Jews had one. Yet Yahweh was a jealous god, which means he recognized the existence of other Gods.
Christianity & Islam come along much later. Both religions thrived at a time when authority was centralizing thought, thus they were considered monotheistic religions. In our modern world, Judaism is also considered to be monotheistic. Technically Christianity is not monotheistic. The Father & Son is straight from the ancient Greek and Egyptian religious traditions. Good luck trying to explain that to a Christian today! At least Islam displays common sense in relegating Mohammed and Jesus to roles of prophets, not gods.
I apologize for rambling. It’s an intriguing topic. I think my conclusions are that I’m wrong again. I don’t like that but my dislike doesn’t make me correct.

Posted by: EoinW | Jul 31 2024 12:07 utc | 342

Arch Bungle@338
For all those Elon Fanbois read FORTUNES, The Rise and Rise of Afrikaner Tycoons. Roelof Botha partner at Sequoia Capital and his role in Elons wealth creation, son of the last Foreign Miniter of South Africa’s Apartheid regime and then join the dots.

Posted by: KeithZA | Jul 31 2024 12:10 utc | 343

These assassinations have no strategic value what so ever……
Yet Bibi and the War Cabinet approved both of the assassinations, obviously with the tacid approval of Blinken-sky and Kamy Harris.
Need proof? The USAF attacked targets in Iraq and the IAF attacked targets in Syria at the same exact time the assassination occurred in Tehran. This was a completely co-ordinated operation.
Apparently the US is full on in approving the IDF goal goading Iran, Iraq, Syria and Russia, Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, and Hezbollah into a general ME war, and directly involving the US into a defense of the soon to be “beleaguered” Israel.
One aspect is crystal clear….the cease fire talks are over. The IDF just murdered the Chief Hamas negotiator. Who is there right mind enters into international negotiations for a ceasefire and then murders one fo the Chief Negotiators? Again complete insanity engendered by the radical settlers now in complete control of the IDF and the Israeli government.
Total insanity, when the major players start exchanging massive missile strikes the dogs of war will be on the loose and there will no placing them back in their cages.
Biden should have been on the phone last night telling Bibi to stand down, but unfortunately we now know all too well that Joe is completely incapacitated.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jul 31 2024 12:14 utc | 344

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 31 2024 8:00 utc | 301
Fuck off and fuck Eclownicus. He never once tweeted about Venezuela and suddenly with a coup attempt underway he’s an expert on the place? LOL I join Brother Maduro in challenging fElon to a fist fight. Except I’m right here in Texas. Will he accept?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 31 2024 12:35 utc | 345

Finally, the dopes have no idea that the Du Ponts control Delaware and have for over 200 years and and deep into the neo con tribe and a Delaware DA is suing Musk to stop him collecting his 50 billion dollar bonus duly approved years ago by Tesla shareholders.
Wake up Karens and use your head.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 31 2024 10:51 utc | 330

Oh no! Jew A is extorting money from jew B. That means that jew B must be a good guy! Besides, when it turned out that the whole world already knows the jews own the media, jew B tweeted about it in panicked damage control mode! That means that jew B must be doubly a good guy!
Now I see why people here think you’re an imbecile.

Posted by: Michael A | Jul 31 2024 12:35 utc | 346

I apologize for rambling. It’s an intriguing topic. I think my conclusions are that I’m wrong again. I don’t like that but my dislike doesn’t make me correct.
Posted by: EoinW | Jul 31 2024 12:07 utc | 342
It is a complex topic indeed. One that rambles on of it’s own accord, regardless of the rambler.
I would content that Judaism itself is merely dollar-store Zoroastrianism.
Zoroastrianism older than Judaism and provided the prototype concepts of “Good” vs. “Evil”, the Good Creator ‘God’ (Ahura Mazda) or essence vs. the Evil Antagonist ‘God’ or “essence” (Angra Mainyu). Without the foundational concepts provided by Iranian Zoroastrianism (the true gift bequeathed to Christ by the Magi) Judaism would be nothing more than a tale of madmen wandering around in the desert and cutting off their foreskins.
Perhaps I should have been more precise:
All that is Western Culture is merely the papered over remains of a corrupt form (Christianity) of a corrupt (Judaism) form of Zoroastrainism.
Twice in two aeons, Persia laid the foundations of Western culture: Once before Judaism and once at the height of Islam.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 12:49 utc | 347

Apparently, Joe Biden is too incapacitated or chicken to make an official statement about the assassination of Haniyeh. The only reported WH reaction is this one:
“The White House said it has seen the reports of Haniyeh’s death but declined to immediately comment further, according to a spokesperson.”
https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-political-leader-ismail-haniyeh-040440035.html
SoS Blinken said that the United States was “not aware of or involved in” the killing of Hamas’s political leader Ismail Haniyeh in Iran. Kamala said the US would, of course, support Israel.
This is not a good look. The US is looking like a weak sister with no-one in charge. The fuck? It’s 9 am Eastern time in the US – why no remark from the fucking “president” of the United States?

Posted by: teri | Jul 31 2024 12:59 utc | 348

“and a Delaware DA is suing Musk to stop him collecting his 50 billion dollar bonus duly approved years ago”
So what you’re saying is the rats are turning on each other.
Good news!

Posted by: Mary | Jul 31 2024 13:03 utc | 349

Now I see why people here think you’re an imbecile.
Posted by: Michael A | Jul 31 2024 12:35 utc | 346
Definately not an imbecile. Our resident musk melon can cut and paste w the best. More like trudian musk cuck.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 31 2024 13:04 utc | 350

One after another, those countries that were “the tentacles of the empire” are experiencing social disfunction and disintegration.
It is amazing to me that there are still people in this world who want to be pawns of the US after seeing the ongoing cases of Ukraine and Israel, which are heading towards a terrible end.
I get a headache just looking at the news headlines about the issue in Taiwan and the Philippines deepening their cooperation with the US to confront China, etc.
Why can’t they see that ‘the US is bringing disaster’?
They are bringing disaster to themselves, not to Russia or China.

Posted by: Nokaz | Jul 31 2024 13:05 utc | 351

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 10:54 utc | 331
‘Do you even begin to pretend to believe that the Resistance will fold due to a couple of individuals being assassinated by the Evil Ones? Clearly, you got another think coming.’
No, I do not think that the Resistance is going to fold because of the very grave development of last night which has many ramifications.
The problem is that based on the US public warning, retaliation risks a wider war with direct US involvement, something Iran and the Resistance have been careful not to provoke, to their great credit. It is remarkable how responsibly they have acted so far despite all that is directed against them.
Now they find themselves in a true – damned if you do, damned if you don’t – position.
They have demonstrated great wisdom up to now, but what now?

Posted by: JB | Jul 31 2024 13:13 utc | 352

Well they managed to get people to stop talking about torture and murder in Israeli prisons

Posted by: Polli | Jul 31 2024 13:22 utc | 353

This is not a good look. The US is looking like a weak sister with no-one in charge. The fuck? It’s 9 am Eastern time in the US – why no remark from the fucking “president” of the United States?
Posted by: teri | Jul 31 2024 12:59 utc | 348
Yet Biden called Lula about Venezuela and confirmed the content of his call on X

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 13:26 utc | 354

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[…]The State Department on Tuesday refused to label Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian prisoners as a war crime.
Said Arikat, a reporter for Al Quds, asked State Department spokesman Vedant Patel about the Israeli soldiers who were detained for raping a Palestinian prisoner at the notorious Sde Teiman detention facility. The Palestinian was transferred to a hospital with damage to his rectum that was so severe he could not walk.
The condition of the prisoner confirms some of the worst allegations about conditions in Sde Teiman. Both Israeli whistleblowers and former Palestinian prisoners have detailed torture and widespread abuse carried out by Israeli soldiers at the facility.
“Apparently rape and killing and torture and all this thing – it happens regularly in Israeli detention camps. Does that constitute a war crime to you?” Arikat asked Patel.
Patel replied, “So the reports of abuse are deeply concerning, and we have been clear and consistent with Israel and the IDF that they need to treat all detainees humanely and with dignity in accordance with humanitarian law.” He added that the US was going to let “due process” play out in the case against the Israeli soldiers.
Arikat followed up, asking, “Now, if proven to be true, that does constitute a war crime, doesn’t it?”
Patel said, “I am not a legal expert, Said. Certainly I imagine it would be inconsistent with Israeli law.” […]
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/07/30/state-department-wont-call-israeli-rape-of-palestinian-prisoners-a-war-crime/
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Gosh, where is John Yoo when you need him?

Posted by: teri | Jul 31 2024 13:27 utc | 355

October 6th was such a nice day.
Posted by: crimson | Jul 31 2024 4:17 utc | 259
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Only for the Zionazis.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 31 2024 13:35 utc | 356

@ Inka[n1969], I had you figured for a petty bourgeois ‘socialist’ suffering from excess consumption of Guardian headfckery. Turns out you’re a real nasty piece of work…
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 31 2024 5:04 utc | 269
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Nah, he’s a typical “liberal Democrat” — and a brony.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 31 2024 13:37 utc | 357

“the colonial entity” – lol. I thought it was ZOG. You are too invested in libtard ideologies. The majority of Israeli Jews are born in Israel, to parents born in Israel. They are not colonist, they are natives whether you like it or not.
Israel won’t fall apart for the same reason. Those people are born there. They will for the most part, die there.
Posted by: Rune Denmark | Jul 31 2024 7:39 utc | 292
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With each passing day the last two words wuoted above acquire ever greater urgency.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 31 2024 13:39 utc | 358

: WMG | Jul 31 2024 9:36 utc | 315. Water as a problem…
Our well in SW Florida only produces salt water so we have an RO system. It turns salt water into tasty, drinkable water. There appears to be plenty of water in the Middle East; it just has salt in it. Our equipment and monthly service costs less than the average municipal water bill in the area.

Posted by: cc | Jul 31 2024 13:40 utc | 359

Any opinions on the rumors that Ismail Haniyeh’s hit was an F-35?

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 13:44 utc | 360

Alon Mizrahi, formerly a star athlete, says that Israel has already come apart.
https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/p/israel-is-already-over

Posted by: farm ecologist | Jul 31 2024 13:57 utc | 361

I’m a bit pissed off cos I think WWIII is about to kick off, and I have Three Grandchildren
Highly unusual interview in The Daily Telegraph by Melanie Swan ( I have edited it for clarity – removing the standard lies and bollocks)
“The day I met Hamas’ leader Ismail Haniyeh for his last interview with the western media ”
“‘Everything about him sought to project the image of a statesman’ … Melanie Swan interviews Ismail Haniyeh in Istanbul in 2022 Credit: Melanie Swan ”
“He was living quite openly, under the eye of the Turkish government.
The office – a simple, run-down building – was where Haniyeh later watched TV footage of October 7.
Indeed, Haniyeh told me that Hamas was not a terror group – simply a group of freedom fighters seeking justice.
Everything about him sought to project the image of a statesman. Before we met, his staff had requested my CV. Inside the office, staff busied themselves constantly around him.
He wore a smart suit, lacking any outward sign of his politics, such as the traditional keffiyeh sported by Yasser Arafat. former leader of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation.
In the 45-minute interview, he spoke softly and barely moved from behind his large desk. His rhetoric was mostly predictable.
He blamed the British for the fate of the Palestinians, harking back to the 1920-48 British Mandate, which would eventually lead to the creation of the Jewish state.
When Israeli airstrikes killed three of his sons and four of his children, he appeared unmoved. “The blood of martyrs creates hope for the future,” he said.
“Whoever thinks that by targeting my children during the negotiation talks and before a deal is agreed upon that it will force Hamas to back down on its demands, is delusional,” he added.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 13:59 utc | 362

Israel won’t fall apart for the same reason. Those people are born there. They will for the most part, die there.
Posted by: Rune Denmark | Jul 31 2024 7:39 utc | 292
I was there during the last days of the South African Apartheid State.
Many white settlers eventually left, due to loss of privilege, racism, shame or fear.
All were born there like their grand and great grandparents before them.
You are correct that many will remain in the single Palestinian State.
They’ll have to face the fathers of the children they murdered daily.
There will be no IDF to stand between them and the men they raped in prison.
But unlike the White South Africans, who at least had a chance at redemption because their regime was nowhere near as criminal as the zionist entity, there will be none for most of the Jewish Zionists.
It will be a testament to the moral superiority of the Palestinian people that they will not commit a genocide against the remaining shameless that have nowhere to go (not even Europe or Ukraine!).

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 14:09 utc | 363

So: after the strike in Hodeidah port the Ansarallah have mostly been quiet and haven’t retaliated yet.
Hezbollah have officially denied the death of the organization’s #2, Fouad Shukr, however in later statements it didn’t present any updates regarding his state. The latest announcement said it would “act according to what rescue teams find under the rubble and debris of the building that was targeted by the Israeli occupation”. Seems reasonably possible that he is indeed dead, or seriously wounded if still alive.
A couple of hours after the airstrike in Beirut, Ismail Haniyeh has been assassinated by an airstrike that somehow evaded detection and reached its target in one of Iran’s better-guarded quarters, a special residence for military veterans in the north of Tehran. As much as i don’t like it, anon2020 is quite right citing Rybar that “Iran suffered significant damage to their reputation”. The deterrence upper-hand gained after the restrained airstrike in Israel has evaporated, and then some. A senior foreign guest has been assassinated while under the protection of the state during a most formal visit. Can’t get much more provocative that.
Sandwiched between these two, there was a third, USAF, airstrike in Iraq killing four Hashed al-Saabi (an Iran-affilated militia) fighters patrolling in Babylon province.
No way would Satanyahu escalate so seriously and so quickly without previously securing US backup all the way, and one can reasonably guess that all these were discussed and agreed during his latest visit in Washington. As a matter of fact, further military moves additional to the USAF airstrike in Iraq point more towards full complicity & coordination: the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1), the San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock ship USS New York (LPD 21), the Harpers Ferry class dock landing ship USS Oak Hill (LSD 51), with embarked Amphibious Squadron 4 and 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) Special Operations Capable (SOC) have just left the US naval base of Souda, Crete, to meet a fleet of UK Navy off Cyprus on their way to Lebanon “to assist a possible evacuation”.
The Zionists, and by that i mean Israhell as well as deep power structures inside USA/UK, push for a major regional war or the complete humiliation of the Axis of Resistance. The Majdal Shams incident was designed as the spark plug. Peace is out of frame…no point of peace talks when one side assassinates the other side’s most prominent negotiator. The message is clear: “dare to fight back, so we can at last bomb you back to Stone Age, or shut up and step down”. Tough choices for Iran & the whole Axis of Resistance.
The warmongers & global manipulators are salivating already.
However, as Israeli analyst Akiva Eldar noted:
“The graveyards of the Middle East are full of senior Hamas, Hezbollah and Iranian leaders who [we were told] couldn’t be replaced. But they have been replaced”.

Posted by: Memory Man | Jul 31 2024 14:10 utc | 364

Alon Mizrahi, formerly a star athlete, says that Israel has already come apart.
https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/p/israel-is-already-over
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jul 31 2024 13:57 utc | 361
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Whining is a stereotypically Jewish pastime. You know, as in killing one’s parents and whining that one is an orphan.
Jews aren’t killing Jews yet in Israel. Until then it’s nothing.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 31 2024 14:18 utc | 365

CIA-Mossad running around trying to murder literally everyone now. This time with a drone.


❗An assassination attempt was made on the head of the Sovereign Council of Sudan while he was visiting a military base in the east of the country; the politician survived, local media write.

According to their information, they tried to kill Abdel Fattah Al-Burhan using a drone during the graduation ceremony of military cadets.
- FRWL reports
“>https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1818644730885845092

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 31 2024 14:20 utc | 366

just when the lines were being drawn between Egypt/ksa/Sudanese army vs UAE/Ethiopia and the usual culprits.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/26/1259/528233/War-in-Sudan/War-in-Sudan/Sudan;s-military-says-its-top-commander-survived-d.aspx

Posted by: Minaa | Jul 31 2024 14:36 utc | 367

“The occupation bombed a house next to the house of the martyr Ismail Haniyeh in the Beach camp, west of Gaza, while a group of journalists was present.
The martyrdom of colleague Ismail al-Ghoul, Al Jazeera correspondent in Gaza
Journalist Rami Al-Rifi was martyred when the occupation bombed a group of journalists west of Gaza City”
Journalist Youssef Fares

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 31 2024 14:37 utc | 368

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 14:09 utc | 363
We know a few White South Africans now in England. There is something about them maybe give the impression, that they feel a little bit superior to us English. We don’t get that impression from Auusies or Germans whilst the French in France are so downright rude we travel to Spain, Greece, Turkey or North Africa – They can’t stand the French either
Us British tried to give all our colonies back to the people who lived there – more trouble than they’re worth.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 14:42 utc | 369

Many of the pieds noirs were born in Algeria. Few of them died there.

Posted by: Lysias | Jul 31 2024 15:16 utc | 370

It was not The Police’s Fault – re The Child Killer in Southport…They were as shocked as anoyone. They were as shocked as me.
The locals in Southport and Cardiff (where he was born) knew everything about him.
Whilst some nutters on Facebook according to my wife, posted complete and utter lies, without knowing anything about him…, and without any evidence,
assumed he had just arrived on a rubber boat.
The problem was the Mainstream Media, not telling the truth, when the people who had lived next door to him, said everything they knew.
Us English quite like the Welsh. – a bit introverted was he…So where did his parents come from???
Why he did it, I have no idea. not your typical patsy – maybe he preferred Cardiff.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 15:17 utc | 371

Any opinions on the rumors that Ismail Haniyeh’s hit was an F-35?
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 13:44 utc | 360
If true, Iran now knows that the F-35 is capable of entering their airspace un-detected (un-opposed?) or at least projecting power into the center of Teheran.

Loss of Haniyeh aside, that’s a hell of a card for the Zionists to play this early in the game …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 15:20 utc | 372

So, the U.S. moves a fleet to stand off the coast of Lebanon to evacuate western civilians. I seem to recall last time the U.S. Navy was involved in Lebanon all we got was a bunch of U.S. Marines killed and wounded with nothing to show for it.

Posted by: Matt | Jul 31 2024 15:23 utc | 373

Baud is Swiss; worked at UN. Neither hysteria nor bias in his informative history and analysis. — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xYCni0nVTc — Posted by: ChasMark | Jul 31 2024 2:17 utc | 226
He was also a key NATO official. — Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 2:19 utc | 227
Exactly! That’s why, when he holds forth on NATO, he is so to the point, incisive, accurate, no holds barred. He knows the organization inside-out.

Posted by: RJPJR | Jul 31 2024 15:23 utc | 374

Posted by: Lysias | Jul 31 2024 15:16 utc | 370
We have a French Musician Friend who married an English Girl…what happenned to him made us cry. He still ocasionally turns up in England knocking on our door, hoping to see his kids. How can women be so cruel to the father of their children.
He runs a blues bar in Nice
The best music in France comes North Africa

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 15:30 utc | 375

Any opinions on the rumors that Ismail Haniyeh’s hit was an F-35?
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 13:44 utc | 360
That’s what I read; don’t remember exactly where. But if it was an F-35 launched from an Israeli airbase, it doesn’t have the range unless equipped with outboard fuel tanks (that allegedly prevent stealth flight) which would need to be dropped off (again, to use stealth once in Iranian airspace) or it would have needed in-air refueling which I don’t know for sure that Israel has the (stratotanker) capability to do. Would need a NATO partner if refueling in-air.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 31 2024 15:47 utc | 376

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 15:20 utc | 372
“Any opinions on the rumors that Ismail Haniyeh’s hit was an F-35?”
F-35s are total rubbish…It costs about $10,000,000 every time they fly
More likely a Harrier Jump Jet built in Chadderoton, Oldham, when I was a kid, (yes I did go to the interview), but didn’t get the job – Try Gliding, computing and Motorhead (overkill) instead.
“The Harrier, informally referred to as the Harrier jump jet, is a family of jet-powered attack aircraft capable of vertical/short takeoff and landing operations (V/STOL). Named after a bird of prey,[1] it was originally developed by British manufacturer Hawker Siddeley in the 1960s. The Harrier emerged as the only truly successful V/STOL design of the many attempted during that era. It was conceived to operate from improvised bases, such as car parks or forest clearings, without requiring large and vulnerable air bases. Later, the design was adapted for use from aircraft carriers. ”

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 15:56 utc | 377

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 13:44 utc | 360
That’s what I read; don’t remember exactly where. But if it was an F-35 launched from an Israeli airbase, it doesn’t have the range unless equipped with outboard fuel tanks (that allegedly prevent stealth flight) which would need to be dropped off (again, to use stealth once in Iranian airspace) or it would have needed in-air refueling which I don’t know for sure that Israel has the (stratotanker) capability to do. Would need a NATO partner if refueling in-air.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 31 2024 15:47 utc | 376
I passed it to the open thread but…
“I’m bringing this one over to this thread.
Any opinions on the rumors that Ismail Haniyeh’s hit was an F-35?
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 13:44 utc | 360
If true, Iran now knows that the F-35 is capable of entering their airspace un-detected (un-opposed?) or at least projecting power into the center of Teheran.
Loss of Haniyeh aside, that’s a hell of a card for the Zionists to play this early in the game …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 15:20 utc | 372
Not necessarily penetrating, with a couple of AGM-158B JASSM-ER (extended range) they could be firing from just north, or south, of Baghdad and still hitting Tehran. No news of having been provided to Israel, but nothing is too good for the IDF friends.
In fact dropping external tanks over Jordan that would be close to the limit of going in and out of Iraqi airspace in full stealth mode.
Now this is a mission very close to the never confirmed EMP/Nuke shootdown by RF (close to Syrian airspace) some time ago. If I had to guess this time they took the southern route to avoid the same debacle.
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 15:59 utc | 7”

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2024 16:10 utc | 378

I have no idea how to calm the psychokillers dowm. It maybe drug related, but probably not alcocol, weed, LSD or MDMA -in my experience and observation, it makes people almost completely useless, maybe happy, but silly, but about to fall asleep rather than attack anyone.
I think its more likely to be Cocaine related – or Benny’s (Benzedrine)- probably not even Heroin, Morpthine or Opiods – which are designed to remove the pain, just before they Kill you
“So you see, the only proof
Of what you are, is in the way
You see the truth
Don’t be scared, live to win
Although they’re always gonna tell you it’s a sin
In the end, you’re on your own
And there is no-one
That can stop you being alone”
Lemmy – Motorhead

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 16:41 utc | 379

Do you even begin to pretend to believe that the Resistance will fold due to a couple of individuals being assassinated by the Evil Ones? Clearly, you got another think coming.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 31 2024 10:54 utc | 331
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It does start to look as though the Golan attack was not only a ff but also a psyop: giving Israeli brass an opportunity to grandstand to the world, give a preview of coming attractions on the coffins of the children whom they themselves very likely killed, and then use the whole charade as a casus assassini to hit Hamas leaders. Why else would NEt insist on using that venue when the villagers have made it clear he is not wanted there.
The Zionist Oaf in full flagrante delicto.
A combo of “rush to judgment” and Hatfield and McCoys.
Not to mention, basically a lynching in Beirut.
When will Netanyahu and other top brass in Ziostan be targeted for takeout?
Since Net is located in Tel Aviv, according to the Zio lynching logic it would be appropriate to take out the whole city in order to get rid of him (and a few others).

Posted by: Jane | Jul 31 2024 16:46 utc | 380

Now I see why people here think you’re an imbecile.
Posted by: Michael A | Jul 31 2024 12:35 utc | 346
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I must say that post from Canuck left me scratching my head . . .
Not sure what the Musk comment alludes to.
Du Ponts are obviously huge in tiny Delaware.
But I think Delaware’s big swingin’ dick actually is attached to the usury and finance industry there—always protected by Joe Biden.
Delaware is kind of like an offshore haven.
Like the Caymans, or something.
Perhaps the Du Ponts are also involved in those “sectors.”

Posted by: Jane | Jul 31 2024 16:54 utc | 381

It will be a testament to the moral superiority of the Palestinian people that they will not commit a genocide against the remaining shameless that have nowhere to go (not even Europe or Ukraine!).
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 14:09 utc | 363
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I for one don’t expect the Palestinians to be saints.
Furthermore I don’t know whether turning the other cheek is considered a greater virtue in Islam and Arab societies generally than avenging assaults on one’s honor.
I am in the “honor” camp myself. If someone rapes me I expect my menfolk and my tribe to avenge me. Not turn the other cheek and command me to forgive. Das ist spinnerei.
Zio forms of torture feature a huge humiliation component.
“Honor” is a concept unknown to these deviants. “Mercy” and “compassion” and “fairness” likewise. Decent treatment only offers them a new chance to get a drop on the goyim suckers.
Personally I hope the humiliation chickens come home to roost in Palestine. Examples must be made to all potential Zionists of every stripe.
Palestinians will choose their own way to assert and defend their honor.
Inshallah.

Posted by: Jane | Jul 31 2024 17:04 utc | 382

Stop drinking alcohol. Stop smoking cigarettes. Do something completely Different when you are 23 and have a job and some money. Its OK to still live with your Mum and Dad, though they probably do want to chuck you out
Go on a week’s Training Course at a Gliding Club…Its highly addictive..and keeps you fit, and might just change your life if you want a girlfriend and are bored with computer games
https://www.glidingclub.org.uk/

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Jul 31 2024 17:07 utc | 383

Phil #3
you spelled hypocrite wrong. Also you’re obviously slow witted. There has been extensive coverage on the terrorist attacks by Israel on 10/7, both when they slaughtered their own civilians as well as the open genocide against the Indigenous people. MoA has covered all the terrorism inflicted by the European apartheid terror state upon the humans inhabiting Palestine.

Posted by: Osori | Jul 31 2024 17:37 utc | 384

Rune Denmark | Jul 31 2024 7:39 utc | 292
typical nazi ideology. extermination against native people followed by euro trash settlers who suddenly become native themselves. Can you not grasp how stupid this sounds? Yes, you did it here as well. Does not make your mindless stupidity any more palatable to those not subscribing to your bullshit.

Posted by: Osori | Jul 31 2024 17:48 utc | 385

One way or another it will. A conflict that actually inconveniences these murderous zio freaks was NEVER in the Zionist pogrom. They will desert the ship just like the rats they are.
PS I notice that the hasbara trolls are out in force. Thats a good sign! Desperation.

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Jul 31 2024 17:57 utc | 386

What choice do the American people have in the November election?
Between Kamala of the Ukrainian Nazi death cult and Donald Trump of the Zionist Nazi death cult.
Something unexpected is going to happen.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jul 31 2024 18:34 utc | 387

Regarding the principle religions, recently a religious movement has arisen which is an offshoot of (but still part of) Hinduism – that is ISKON, the international society of Krishna consciousness. Founded by Srili Praphubada a generation ago. While following the Vedas and the foundations of Hindu belief, as well as its deities such as Krishna, Brahma, Shiva, Lord Jaganatha etc., ISKON has a strongly devotional element centred on Krishna in a relational manner not dissimilar to branches of mystical Christianity and maybe Sufi Islam.
The point is that the overwhelming stench spreading from the settler colonialists in the Levant, is driving many away from JudeoChristian faith even when they have held it all their lives. I know several people who have been prompted by this all-pervading revulsion to depart from Christianity to ISKON. While some mistakenly consider Hindu belief a kind of animist pantheism, in ISKON is a faith with the strong devotional and moral elements of the monotheistic faiths but uncontaminated by the congenitally genocidal ones worshipped throughout Christendom. Free of the stench of Masada.
The growth of ISKON will be interesting to follow, as well as possibly the orthodox Christian faith less cravenly beholden to the worshippers of genocide than the more craven Christian denominations.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jul 31 2024 18:55 utc | 388

The old pass away and their sons rise in their place, angrier and more dangerous than their fathers.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 4:25 utc | 262
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Haniyeh, it seems, was born in a refugee camp in Gaza. His parents were driven out of their home in 1948.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jul 31 2024 19:00 utc | 389

Is this the beginning of a war of attrition of heads of state? One can only hope. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
Posted by: Occasional poster | Jul 31 2024 4:52 utc | 266
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Except that some of them have the planet’s hegemon behind them, and others don’t.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jul 31 2024 19:05 utc | 390

… for one don’t expect the Palestinians to be saints.
Posted by: Jane | Jul 31 2024 17:04 utc | 382
I believe the honour offenses will be avenged.
I don’t believe this will require a genocide.
I believe the Palestinians will practice discernment.
They are not inclined to the kind of animal madness we see in the Zionist settler population. That kind of toxic zealotry is not evident in the Palestinian population as a whole.
There will be revenge attacks on those shameless Zionists that remain but I believe the bulk of the remaining European Jews will be those who supported the Palestinian cause (e.g betselem workers and others like them).
I’m basing this on my observations of the last days of apartheid in South Africa.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 31 2024 22:41 utc | 391

Alon Mizrahi, formerly a star athlete, says that Israel has already come apart.
https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/p/israel-is-already-over
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jul 31 2024 13:57 utc | 361
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Whining is a stereotypically Jewish pastime. You know, as in killing one’s parents and whining that one is an orphan.
Jews aren’t killing Jews yet in Israel. Until then it’s nothing.
Posted by: malenkov | Jul 31 2024 14:18 utc | 365

Perhaps, but I don’t see what any of that has to do with the article I linked to. Mizrahi seems to have admirably de-programmed himself, in my view.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Jul 31 2024 22:53 utc | 392

The surest sign that the Americans had a hand in the state-sponsored murder of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh is a denial from the American regime….
Blinken says US not involved in killing of Hamas political chief Haniyeh
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/31/blinken-says-us-not-involved-in-killing-of-hamas-political-chief-haniyeh

Posted by: ak74 | Jul 31 2024 23:47 utc | 393

Between Kamala of the Ukrainian Nazi death cult and Donald Trump of the Zionist Nazi death cult.
Something unexpected is going to happen.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jul 31 2024 18:34 utc | 387
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Same death cult, slightly different advertised priorities.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 1 2024 0:15 utc | 394

There is tactic, and then there is strategy. Terrorism is a tactic. Killing Hanieh in Tehran, however desperate, is an act of terror, thus tactic. Overall strategy of Iran is to get the empire out of West Asia. Little acts of terror — and there are uncountable many — are unlikely to alter the overall strategy.
All the popcorn swallowed by barflies, and some barfleas, waiting to see, ooh, what will Iran do? Well, here is your answer, and as Elon put it ‘get used to it’: Iran will stay the course. You can take that to the bank.
Afghanistan down, more to go.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 1 2024 0:17 utc | 395

Perhaps, but I don’t see what any of that has to do with the article I linked to. Mizrahi seems to have admirably de-programmed himself, in my view.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jul 31 2024 22:53 utc | 392
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The Zioterrorist state is neither “coming apart” like you say, nor is it “already over” as the Mizrahi whine has it. “Israel” is just being the same “Israel” it always was. The puppies-and-unicorns “Israel” never existed; it was always a vicious colonialist enterprise that shat upon anything resembling a civilized norm. So it will “come apart” only when the Zios start performing acts of terror on each other, barring their being conquered from the outside.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 1 2024 0:23 utc | 396

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 1 2024 0:17 utc | 395
It’s good to hear from someone who understands that not everyone thinks like a short-attention-span Westerner.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 1 2024 0:27 utc | 397

Those who study in jewish schools are brain washed into believing that God elected them (we non jews are all crap, sorry, gentiles, as they call us) and that that land was promised to them by God.
From this to comit all kinds of atrocities to obtain such land, is a short distance, and they will not stop voluntarily to slaughter civilians and comit terrorist crimes.
I do not believe that there is much difference of opinion within the Israelis about this matter, as they are all brain washed, and therefore, as long as they control the USA, the attrocities against the Arabs in general and Palestinians in particular will not end.

Posted by: JLDAM | Aug 1 2024 8:16 utc | 398

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 31 2024 15:47 utc | 376 “would have needed in-air refueling which I don’t know for sure that Israel has the (stratotanker) capability to do”
Israeli tankers were shown refueling Israeli fights on the way to and from the stirks on that port in Yemen a week to ago. At that time they made a point that Iran was closer than that port in Yemen.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 2 2024 20:54 utc | 399