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July 22, 2024
Did Biden Quit?

Given the headlines which say he did you might wonder why I ask if Biden has quit his attempt to get reelected.

But look at 'his' rather weird letter which was distributed via the Joe Biden campaign X/Twitter account.


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There is no official letterhead. The formulations are obviously not by Joe Biden and the signature looks canned.

I doubt this Politico account which claims that Biden posted the letter all by himself:

Steve Ricchetti, who’s been with Biden since his days in the Senate, drove to see the president at his house on the Delaware shore on Friday.

In addition to presenting new concerns from lawmakers and updates on a fundraising operation that had slowed considerably, they carried the campaign’s own polls, which came back this week and showed his path to victory in November was gone …

The only other people with Biden in the residence when he arose Sunday were first lady Jill Biden and two other trusted aides: deputy chief of staff Annie Tomasini and assistant to the first lady Anthony Bernal. At 1:45 p.m., he notified a somewhat larger group of close aides that he had decided the night before to end his quest for another term, reading his letter and thanking them for their service. A minute later, before any other campaign and White House staffers could be notified, he posted the historic letter from his campaign account on the social media site X.

This says that Ricchetti, Biden's aide, wrote and posted the letter.

There was no speech and no press conference. People working on Biden's campaign had no pre-warning.

Biden allegedly endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as the new Democrat candidate for the presidency.

Let's remember that Harris, of Asian/Indian decent but playing black, is a former California prosecutor who failed in 2020 to get any votes in the primaries. Biden selected her as his vice because she was a woman of color not because she is a person fit for the job.

What does it say about a democracy when some obscure party functionaries and billionaire donors contradict the will of the primary voters and decide against another presidency for Joe Biden?

What does it say about a democracy when similar powers install a new candidate who is by no means qualified and has never received any votes?

Comments

@ canuck … this is a class war
Posted by: james | Jul 22 2024 16:10 utc | 97

Its cadres vs. plebs all the way down. Without a molecule of class consciousness its impossible to choose sides.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2024 16:18 utc | 101

@ james | Jul 22 2024 16:10 utc | 97
What — you didn’t love “Dreams from My Hillbilly Father”? Love the meta crapsmanship, maaan!

Posted by: despondent | Jul 22 2024 16:23 utc | 102

Kamala is an apex chameleon, but isn’t that precisely the Will to Power, as prescribed by Nietzsche, Foucault, and, more overtly carnivorously, by Dr. Hannibal Lecter?

Posted by: LudovicM | Jul 22 2024 16:28 utc | 103

“What does it say about a democracy ”
It says that we are an oligarchy, just as in 1789.

Posted by: lester | Jul 22 2024 16:32 utc | 104

This whole saga is a slow motion train wreck. Early on, as in post debate, I thought that it would be insane to try and take Biden out as it would shove out into the open – all the lying that has been done to cover up Biden’s problems for the past several years.
But consistency and foresight is not a strength of dumbfuck American elites.
Then there’s the “replacement”. Is it Kamala?
On the positive note – Kamala is probably close enough such that existing Biden funding and delegates could slide over.
Kamala losing is also a great way to get her finally shoved out of the way so that Newsome or whoever else can take their shot.
But on the reality side: Kamala has consistently been the only politician LESS popular than Biden. What would her running for POTUS enable? It is very possible that would enable the Republicans to take control of both houses of Congress – which is what the Democrat party is supposedly taking out Joe to prevent.
Only the passage of time will tell lol
What I do think, however, is that this could be the end of the Democrat party. Not as in disappear – the Democrat stranglehold over the true blue cities is not going to go away, but it is going to wind up like the dinosaur Republican stranglehold over say, the fossil fuel industry: situationally powerful but irrelevant most of the time.
Will RFK Jr. and Tulsi band together and create a new party, since the Democrat party will not have them?
The fact that the Teamsters head spoke at the RNC seems to have been overlooked by many.
I said years ago that the opportunity for the Republicans was to take up the mantle of the working class Americans – and that Trump clearly both recognized this and tapped into it.
I am still on the fence about Vance – his RNC speech said all the right things, but watching him gave me a powerful sense of seeing a sociopath/con man/poser. Well, maybe he is just a bad public speaker like DeSantis. Hopefully he isn’t either too weak or a closet neocon – that’s the deal breaker.
But as a symbol – Vance is powerful for Trump and the new image of the Republican party. Vance is an Ohio politician – MidWest but not in-your-face evangelical neocon like Pence. His family and his fame comes from the South – Hillbilly Elegy. And he’s got all those links to Silican Valley via Thiel and Sacks.
Anyway, back to slow motion train wreck watching…

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 16:32 utc | 105

What does it say about a democracy…

I think the USA used to be a constitutional republic or something. Whatever that means. Or I guess, meant.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 22 2024 16:33 utc | 106

If only Trump would only step down too.

Posted by: lester | Jul 22 2024 16:35 utc | 107

@hopehely #98
No, she cannot.
She is more famous than Joe for mangling speech – Joe spouts some nonsense at intervals but Kamala spouts nonsense ALL THE TIME, only without the excuse of dementia.
Kamala is not a politician – she is an apparatchik. She has zero charisma or feel for her supporters. What she has is a completely artificial identity – she originally ran as an Asian but then morphed into Black, when in reality she is just bureaucrat.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 16:37 utc | 108

“Weekend at Bernies” for the next 6 months?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 22 2024 16:37 utc | 109

I want to see a Biden on camera holding up the front page of a daily newspaper.

Posted by: ian | Jul 22 2024 16:39 utc | 110

@ArchBungle #109
No, the problem with Joe staying in office is that he could literally do anything in order to “secure his legacy”.
Dementia Biden knowing full well he is on a short fuse is the most dangerous situation I can imagine.
Tactically, there is no question whatsoever that Biden is staying on in order to pardon all his family and line up all the cash he can, since the gravy train is coming to a stop but the legacy part is what has me worried.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 16:41 utc | 111

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2024 16:10 utc | 97

you liked his book.. you like this fairy tale about self made man rising from rags to riches?? the problem is – it’s a complete con job which keeps most people distracted about what truly matters here… this is a class war… the rags to riches story is a sales pitch and you fall for it by the look of it..

Well it is a con job if you think casinos and gambling are con jobs too.
Because from rags to riches is actually possible, just as it is possible to win big in casino and in lottery.
Unlikely, but not impossible.
The trick is to loudly announce winners, dispose quietly losers for suckers to think they have a good chance.

Posted by: hopehely | Jul 22 2024 16:42 utc | 112

No, the problem with Joe staying in office is that he could literally do anything in order to “secure his legacy”.
Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 16:41 utc | 111
I thought he was barely sentient enough to be aware he has a family or a legacy to be secured.
In any case – how much worse could things get?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 22 2024 16:44 utc | 113

Anybody here who believes Kamala will best the Donald in a debate needs to get their head examined or self medicate against their TDS.
Posted by: morongobill | Jul 22 2024 15:49 utc | 83
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It will be interesting to see how easy Donald goes on her. Not a lot of profit in attacking a female candidate unless she is Crooked Hillary. Donald is too far ahead to punch down.
Kamala is a nothing. No one knows her. No one connects with her. No one sympathizes with her.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 22 2024 16:53 utc | 114

When I learned of this last night, I felt obligated to write something, “Biden Commits Political Suicide–So?” was that short effort that provided the reactions from Russia and China, both of which amounted to a yawn. The Chinese noted that all 50 state D-Party camps backed Harris and concluded the move was a desperate last chance move to try and salvage victory from certain defeat. Some of the R-Party observations feign ignorance of the court decision saying the DNC can nominate whoever it wants and damn the public–a ruling that also applies to the R-Party. I exclaimed So?? because general policy continuity will continue regardless which brand wins as reality shows beyond doubt that the POTUS has very little control over the government it’s charged with managing and the constitution it swears to uphold.
IMO, Harris will fare no better than Humphrey in 1968 as she’s saddled with Biden’s failed policies just as Humphrey was dogged by LBJ’s failures. The only way for her to win is to trounce Trump very solidly in the debates.
In late 1919, Wilson suffered a stroke and his wife finished out his term and was the first, albeit unofficial, female POTUS–a fact overlooked by far too many.
As one commentator at my substack wrote: Out goes one circus only to be replaced by another circus.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2024 16:53 utc | 115

Tribal loyalties in American Melting Pot, right.
What tribe Kamala belongs to?
As a true professional, she is only loyal to her current employer.
Posted by: hopehely | Jul 22 2024 15:53 utc | 86
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The VP, like the President, is elected by those who are qualified to vote and do so. The VP, like the President, first obligation is to the American people and then the voters. The VP’s obligations to her Party and the President comes after her obligation to the American people and the voters.
The President cannot fire the VP once the VP is elected; the president can sideline the VP until the end of his/her term in office and choose another VP if the President runs for reelection. To remove the VP Congress must impeach and the Senate must convict, just like the President.
The VP’s loyalty to the President does not include covering up crimes committed by the President or hiding illnesses that make the President unfit for office. The office of the VP is supposed to be more than just a standby in case the President is incapacitated, or impeached, the VP has a responsibility to inform the nation if the President becomes incapable of fulfilling his/her duties as Head of State and as Commander in Chief.
Like the President, the VP also took an oath of fidelity to the Constitution and the American people.

Posted by: Ed | Jul 22 2024 16:54 utc | 116

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 22 2024 14:04 utc | 45
She is descended from wealthy Jamaican black slave owners, and perhaps, dealers.

Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Jul 22 2024 16:56 utc | 117

Sometimes B is so sweet and naive. He thinks murricand have some sort of democracy, oooohh who’s wants to tell him…

Posted by: Mariátegui | Jul 22 2024 16:59 utc | 118

With the single exception of the primary assassination facilitator, LBJ; each and every “president” since that takedown by the CIA has had NO AGENCY. It’s naught but a classical circus and its dog and pony show. Hollywood pussonality drama.
In the deeper reality, presidential politrix signifies exactly nothing more than infotainment via the political iteration.
Highest finance, headed by the eight (8) Crime Clans who own the “Federal” Reserve Bank…have captured not only governance in this ruptured Republic; but also the mass-media of misinformation and mind-control…as well as each and every major institution across the fruited plain. Consider those Ivy League administrators who called in the Law Of Forcement orficers to put down the students and faculty members who stood up against the Izzy genocide on the Gaza Palestinians.
The prostiticians are bought and paid for by the oldest patterning around…a combination of bribery and blackmail.
The U$$A has been Epsteined…and the genuine ruling elite are laughing their asses off at the prospect of Americans actually taking politrix seriously.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 17:04 utc | 119

/perches
Such a busy man in the recent throes of a bout of Covid… Hmmm.
/flies off

Posted by: titmouse | Jul 22 2024 17:04 utc | 120

JD Vance is a an outlier as he is competent and young.
Posted by: canuck | Jul 22 2024 12:21 utc | 2
All nonsense. In the American system, the deep state picks the VP candidate. Pence and Vance are both swamp creatures. The difference is that Vance’s youth and popularity make him a credible President, in case Trump gets whacked before the election, I think there’s a very good chance that Vance would win in a landslide. And that makes him insurance against any Trump shenanigans against whatever particular deep state interests Trump might want attack to support his role as populist savior. That’s level 1- the ‘GOP swamp creature club’ level. The level above is that trump picked Vance because he ‘got the message.’ Butler Farm was his come-to-Jesus moment, and his pick of Vance is his message to the deep state that’s he’s born again.
In the past, in the US, the mechanisms of the deep state were not as powerful and unified as they were in the early days of the republic. At first the VP was the runner-up in the Presidential election. Whoever let that happen go fired, and the VP spot became something to be negotiated among party stalwarts on the basis of delivering votes and serving regional interests. Now that power is more solidified and concentrated, it’s to ensure that the interests of the deep state itself, and the lofty powers of the Sacred Bankers above them, get continuity of government no matter who becomes president, or when. Weak VPs accomplish this by not having an agenda if they take over, Vance, by having one clearly aligned with the top interests.

Posted by: Honzo | Jul 22 2024 17:13 utc | 121

Justin Trudeau’s final ass-kiss to Biden
https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1815123013463150842
“I’ve known President Biden for years. He’s a great man, and everything he does is guided by his love for his country. As President, he is a partner to Canadians – and a true friend.
To President Biden and the First Lady: Thank you.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 22 2024 17:16 utc | 122

“She is descended from wealthy Jamaican black slave owners, and perhaps, dealers.”
This is actually a misreading of the facts. Kamala is of white, African, and East Indian or Hindustani descent. The white element were the slave holders, a powerful white Jamaican family of Anglo-Irish origin. It is assumed, per certain genealogical comments made by her father, that the Black Harrises were of illegitimate descent from the aforesaid white slaveholding Anglo-Irish family, i.e. the juridically legitimate Harrises.

Posted by: LudovicM | Jul 22 2024 17:16 utc | 123

Just some factual corrections:
Kamala’s father was a Black man from Jamaica.
She received votes in primaries but did not win any states.
None of the people in either party are qualified to lead, she is no different in this respect.
Laura Loomer is not a credible source for anything.
Otherwise, the thrust of your post is correct. People have no say in who is chosen. This is nothing new.

Posted by: dandante | Jul 22 2024 17:19 utc | 124

Harris is also half African Jamaican. Unlike Obama, Harris is a descendant of a slave, although not a slave from the US South. I would never support a former prosecutor for any elected office, at least not one who prosecuted the poor for drug possession, but Harris is more qualified to be president than Trump and Vance. Her nomination will have to be confirmed by the rules of the Democratic Party. Party machinations have never been democratic, but this year may be more interesting if Harris is challenged. There is a rumor the coal miners daughter Manchin will challenge Harris. Americans have not witnessed a multiple ballot vote in in their lifetime and good be interesting.

Posted by: Keme | Jul 22 2024 17:19 utc | 125

Don’t think there is any other way to put it that Biden was soft-couped or regime changed.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1815434792919261475

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 22 2024 17:26 utc | 126

Jamaica….
The Jamaican head of state is the ‘democratically born’ hereditary monarch of England

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 22 2024 17:26 utc | 127

I didn’t think too much about this lead, seemed too wild to be true, but given that Joe Biden has been out of public sight for days and dropped out of the race via an 𝕏 post, and his brother James indicated health was a factor, I’m beginning to grow more curious if COVID or something else has been more serious than reported. If anyone with LV Metro has information, please email Freedom@CharlieKirk.com. I want to hear if there is more to the official story than what they’re telling us.”
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jul 22 2024 16:17 utc | 100
Interesting. It raises the possibility of a serious rift in the deep state. This is, of course, pure speculation, but what if Biden is indeed dead, whacked by the Trump-backing portion of the deep state? I’ve been saying for years that there’s a need at the very top level of the power structure, the PTB, to change course and go on the defensive, but that the minions associated with neoliberal/neocon/Zionazi ideology are dug into the woodwork and are fighting to hang on. They tried to kill Trump to keep power, when all else had failed. This invited a counterstrike from the Fortress America faction, and they had better technique.
Newsome has indicated earlier that he doesn’t want to run. Hillary is rumored to be thinking about it, but a Biden hit would make her stand down. Nobody else has a snowball’s chance in even the wildest Dem fantasies.
We may have just seen a pro-active coup attempt against Trump, and a counter-coup against Biden, and it will be harder to get at the truth of either than to the truth of the JFK assassination. I think the main issue, however, is that the Dulles gang are losing. Their replacements will probably not have the freedom of action that the CIA took upon itself from the moment of its creation. So in a sense, what we’re seeing is, so far, a coup by the PTB against the CIA. For the time being, money prevails over murder, though of course both factions need both tools.

Posted by: Honzo | Jul 22 2024 17:26 utc | 128

I think the USA used to be a constitutional republic or something. Whatever that means. Or I guess, meant.
Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 22 2024 16:33 utc | 106
USA is to democracy what monopoly is to money.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 22 2024 17:33 utc | 129

The U$$A has been Epsteined…and the genuine ruling elite are laughing their asses off at the prospect of Americans actually taking politrix seriously.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 17:04 utc | 119
if by politrix you mean electoral politics, you’re absolutely right. I think we have a situation, however in which the actors in the Kabuki realize they have a certain kind of power because they have their hands on the mechanisms of bribery and corruption, and want to be the genuine ruling elite instead of their current bosses. And there’s a layer of praetorians or janissaries who see the corruption and incompetence of the entire system and think that either they can take power into their own hands, or they can fix the system by getting rid of the most corrupt. The factions are battling it out, for the most part in the shadows, but the Kabuki must continue, and real events get worked into the script. We don’t seem to have reached the stage where the visible power structure can be entirely made up of deep fakes- but if I were running things and we had, I’d make sure keep telling everyone that we hadn’t, so who knows? Either way, at some level it requires actual human beings to wield power and authority to get things done, and those are always unreliable and prone to following their own interests.

Posted by: Honzo | Jul 22 2024 17:35 utc | 130

I posted a few weeks ago that I believed there is no way in hell that Biden could continue with his re-election campaign & would reluctantly acquiesce with a health/medical condition.
So far so good, but I was equally convinced that it’d be part of an overall strategy that’d be predicated on neutralising cackling Kamala & anointing a new (or even old) Democrat king or queen.
I guess that’s why I’m not a geopolitical pundit as I never imagined in a million years the spectre of ‘President Harris’, especially after Tulsi Gabbard’s 2020 demolition & her subsequent car wreck interviews & Tourette like repetition of the word salad that is “What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been”.
Having endured the recent UK general election clown show where just 20% of the eligible adult population voted for Labour and the NATO/Davos/Trilateral Commission approved Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer (just in time for a hot war with Russia), I’ll line up with the rest of the non-American barflies & watch round two of the Anglo-American tag match unfold from a distance, while commiserating our American brothers and sisters who have to endure it in real time.

Posted by: FakeBelieve | Jul 22 2024 17:35 utc | 131

Kamala was in on the jussie smolette hoax.
LoL
“This is MAGA country!”

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 17:41 utc | 132

called a legal fiction the brits city of london pioneered this shit took everything from justianian of rome
and rebuilt an angl zion satanick slave system.
check most fake court or legal documents today all photocopy fake names.
check queens coronation document elizabeth r at the top of the page above the oath
bar temple pirate clown world
the problem is the clowns commit genocide every few years

Posted by: gorden | Jul 22 2024 17:42 utc | 133

On Thursday, July 18 at 01:14 New York time, US President Joe Biden died of coronavirus.
Posted by: Truth or Fiction | Jul 22 2024 14:52 utc | 64
That’s impossible. Joe Biden is fully vaxed and boosted, and we all know that getting 6 of those shots keeps you from dying from covid.
Be sure to get number 7!

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 22 2024 17:52 utc | 134

@Arch Bungle #113
Incorrect. If Biden was really purely a finger puppet – he would be out already both from the Democrat nominee for President and from the actual office of President.
Biden’s dementia/senility/whatever is not 100% – he clearly can still talk and can still get mad about things – and things happen when a POTUS gets mad.
There is other evidence: Biden has acquiesced to exiting the election but has neither directly endorsed Kamala (it was not in his first “not running” communication) nor exited the presidency. Both of these actions hurt the Democrat party in particular and Kamala in general.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 17:52 utc | 135

IMO, Harris will fare no better than Humphrey in 1968 as she’s saddled with Biden’s failed policies just as Humphrey was dogged by LBJ’s failures. The only way for her to win is to trounce Trump very solidly in the debates.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2024 16:53 utc | 115
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Friend, these elections are rigged. She can beat Trump by beating Biden’s total vote record, which beat Trump’s total vote record, which beat Obama’s total vote record. It’s easy. Biden beat Trump without campaigning, without good debates, without any record of achievement or representing any ideals.
If there is one thing that is guaranteed in America is that there are an endless number of ballots.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 22 2024 17:54 utc | 136

@b at 12:13 UTC

What does it say about a democracy when similar powers install a new candidate who is by no means qualified and has never received any votes?

It’s a coup.
It was a coup to get him in.
It was a coup to get him out.
Excellent post, b.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 18:02 utc | 137

@Honzo #128

Interesting. It raises the possibility of a serious rift in the deep state. This is, of course, pure speculation, but what if Biden is indeed dead, whacked by the Trump-backing portion of the deep state? I’ve been saying for years that there’s a need at the very top level of the power structure, the PTB, to change course and go on the defensive, but that the minions associated with neoliberal/neocon/Zionazi ideology are dug into the woodwork and are fighting to hang on. They tried to kill Trump to keep power, when all else had failed. This invited a counterstrike from the Fortress America faction, and they had better technique.

This is nonsense – all we are seeing now is dumbfuckery in action.
Biden should have had a serious primary challenge precisely because of his (lack of) mental state, but instead his apparatchik team used the HRC machinery to steamroller him through the Democrat primaries and lock out RFK Jr. to boot.
The debate exposed just how incapable Biden is – so the next dumbfuckery step was the idea that replacing Biden, literally weeks before the Democrat National Convention, would somehow result in a better result than just letting Biden lose.
The problem is related to the primaries – Kamala is ideologically impossible to sideline because of the Democrat party’s Woke fanaticism. To this is added the very non trivial issue of how to transfer funding and delegates to anyone else, again given the HRC changes to Democrat Party functionality – it turbocharges the Kamala issue.
But as I noted above: the only person less popular than Biden is Kamala. Only dumbfucks could possibly think Kamala would do better than even a fully dementia’d Joe – I don’t mean the Presidency as that is a lost cause but the House and Senate races.
Kamala gets all of the Biden criticism since she is part of his administration, none of which is offset by an iota of political capability or even likeability on Kamala’s part.
All we are seeing is the same kind of apparatchik incompetent nonsense as has been abundantly demonstrated by Jake Sullivan, Tony Blinken, Janet Yellen and so forth.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 18:03 utc | 138

In any case – how much worse could things get?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 22 2024 16:44 utc | 113

He could mistake the nuclear button for the adrenochrome dispenser?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 22 2024 18:04 utc | 139

By now I think we can conclude he hasn’t resigned the race on his own free will unless he stands up in public and says so. Even then it is questionable.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 18:08 utc | 140

My own opinion is that Biden didn’t quit, didn’t have COVID, didn’t have a cold, and that he will (or would, if dead) never know either way about anything anyway.
I think they did it the Portuguese way 🙂
Anyway it’s going to be Harris vs. Vance.
Trump will choke on a french fry and everybody will be too embarrassed to make a fuss 😛

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 22 2024 18:08 utc | 141

Kamala Harris in all her glory or should I say shame.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harriss-distinguished-career-of-serving-injustice-2/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 22 2024 18:09 utc | 142

@B I agree that there are doubts about Biden himself agreeing to forfeit the next race…
But there is a better chance that he isn’t able enough to disagree with his dropping out.
As for Kamala “you’ll get nothing and be glad with it ” comes to mind
We are currently at the stage of saying to “the people” eat shit, smile and die
As for factions on the deep state it’s a bit like discussing if you want o die of lung, stomach, pancreas or gut cancer. (I’d go for a bullet to the head)
Al is well in the clown front.

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 18:10 utc | 143

“What does it say about a democracy ”
It says that we are an oligarchy, just as in 1789.
Posted by: lester | Jul 22 2024 16:32 utc | 104

Right, but now they are playing in “god mode” – they have to make the plebs believe whatever. People are going insane from the propaganda.
Almost makes you wish they just went back to physical coercion, at least you could have dinner (if any) in peace.

Posted by: pessoa | Jul 22 2024 18:11 utc | 144

A wee bit more on Harris and its not good.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/07/21/harris-would-continue-genocide-in-gaza/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 22 2024 18:15 utc | 145

Posted by: Carlos Marquez | Jul 22 2024 13:36 utc | 29
You should reread Brave New World. Much more applicable to our situation than 1984.

Posted by: badjoke | Jul 22 2024 18:20 utc | 146

Biden won the vote in 2020 because he was not-Trump and had enough big money donors and connections to survive the early primaries, which were won by Sanders (with Buttigieg a close second.) Then the built-in advantage of the primary system favoring the right kind of candidate kicked in. It’s doubtful Harris has much personal popularity. But then, VP, despite the oddest thoughts about Vance’s prospective rise to power, is not, not, not a position of power. But for the general, the thing is, Harris is also not-Trump. She is going to get votes, assuming the Democratic Party doesn’t explode so forcefully it cannot even nominate her. My guess is there will be enough Red State shenanigans in their counts to raise questions about the Electoral College, as in 2000. Blue States all have Reds taking part in the vote counting, making it more likely I think they will prevent the tactics the Reds will use in states where they are the de facto one party. I can even imagine Harris winning the EC but “losing” the popular vote overall due to Red thumbs on scales.
Expanding? The MoA commentariat is infested with Trump idolators but the simple fact is, millions of people despise Trump. And this is personal, not some crazy PMC/Deep State/woke conspiracy thing. Being a Trumper is very much like being the member of any other religious denomination, those who regularly attend the services and put money in the plate simply are not the majority. They are not even that representative of the bulk of religious people. The ones who believe in God but don’t go to church, don’t shell out when their pastor holds out his hand, don’t read the Bible, who just go to church for weddings and funerals are not in a bit hostile to the “real” Christians, but when confronted with a different religious denomination are put off by the holier-than-thou bigotry, as those lukewarm “spiritual” people might put it. And practically none of those other who aren’t militant and get turned off by militants, again, none of them are Satanists or Wiccans or atheistic Communists.
So far as I can tell, many militant Christians are confused by the loose and informal commitment of outsiders to their particular congregations that they confuse this sentimental attachment for genuine fellow travelers. Since it seems like everybody agrees, then they, the faithful, must be the real majority. They get outraged their (idiosyncratic) theology isn’t in power. They get even more outraged when society somehow keeps getting “woke” or whatever, women get divorced or Blacks vote or whatever national sin burns in their mouths, contriving mysterious conspiracies to explain the perversion of democracy where the majority, the true believers, are somehow stymied in their building of the New Jerusalem. Trumpers seem to imagine the same thing, they really are the majority, when they’re not. Hence they share the persecution mania, the self-pity at being martyred by not being listened to, despite their superior holiness. All I can say is, when anti-Christian tracts equivalent to, say, 1984, are required reading, they will at least have a case. To my eyes, as of now, they are just touchy. Trumpers have their own church and they seem to labor under the same misunderstanding, that rejection and condescension are persecution of the majority.
(For those who have installed their own memory hole, Biden won the South Carolina primary, which is to say, the majority of the Democratic Party vote in a small state that wasn’t going to vote for him in the general, which translated into, no point in the donor party wasting money on people like Buttigieg or worse, Sanders. One of the structural barriers enforcing the duopoly is the vital need for big bucks as essential building blocks in a marathon national campaign. Tagging the retail politicians who won Iowa and New Hampshire as losers dried up the flow. Campaigns that get enough small donations to go the distance are rare, very rare. Even with federal matching funds, big donations are cornerstones, or maybe, keystones. Plus the private campaign, the publicity from the mass media, is equally dominated by the wealthy, either as owners or as the customers. They of course suffocated Sander’s campaign under a blanket of silence, unlike their help to Trump, whose demented stream of unconsciousness was publicized. There’s a lot of truth to the old saying, there’s no such thing as bad publicity.)

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 22 2024 18:21 utc | 147

You should reread Brave New World. Much more applicable to our situation than 1984.
Posted by: badjoke | Jul 22 2024 18:20 utc | 146
More like a fusion of the worst parts of each.
In breve new world people were mostly happy (Ford be praised)

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 18:32 utc | 148

re: Harris selection
(also SecDef Austin and others, and a shrinking woke military)
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Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 22 2024 18:34 utc | 149

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 22 2024 18:21 utc | 147
Persecution of Trump followers is not delusion.
The bias of big tech and media against them is clear as day, and this results in mass deplatforming and censorship.
Parler was shut down by Amazon Web Services, and Parler was a milquetoast conservative social media. Gab was deplatformed, and had all banking, even personal banking accounts of Andrew Torba and his family, cancelled. Gabs web registry provider was also attacked and its founder maligned.
I could go on and on, with literally hundreds of thousands of cases of people getting their social media accounts closed for very mild offenses.
The only time leftists are ever deplatformed or censored is if they oppose wars or the genocide in palestine.
The 2020 election, even if you believe every single ballot was legit, was still heavily rigged by media and tech companies.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 18:37 utc | 150

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 18:32 utc | 148
I dont see how Brave New World is more relevant today than 1984.
My list of dystopia, from most prophetic to least:
1984
Idiocracy
Brave New World
Demolition Man
I’ve never read Fahrenheit 454, so I cant list it.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 18:40 utc | 151

Honzo@1735
Interesting insights about the apparatchiks and their levels of empowerment within the administrative bureaucratic infrastructure. That stated, you might consider the romping, stomping elephants in the chambers…or slightly to the south of them…the Operations elements within the precincts at Langley…the designated attack-dogs whose M.O.’s include assassinations where deemed necessary.
Of course, the secret government entities include the seventeen (17) intel agencies whose purviews include specifically the American people, particularly those who consistently piss them off by pointing out the obvious. Yes, they do possess agency, but only to the degrees allowed by the financier elite.
It is not unlikely that those shotcallers also possess their own private enforcers who can rapidly be informed as to where everyone else (including the apparatchiks) reside as well as their family members and closest friends and associates.
From an insider source, I learned that various In-Force-Meant agencies consider me as “an enemy of the state”. Just this morning my researches took me to a site which the claim was made that the to be rounded up “enemies of the state” may number as many as three (3) million individuals who they are considered as “threats” to state power, particularly those who continually seem to feel that the First Amendment is still in force and that freedom of speech and of the press are sacrosanct…that within this thoroughly ruptured republic.
The U$$A and all of the Collective Waste are dominated and ruled by a numerically tiny set of Trillionaire Oligarchs; aided and abetted by their minions, such as Little Georgie of Our $orrow$…along with various lesser minions, stooges and apparatchiks.
They do feel obliged to signal their intentions and reveal their positions. A close scanning of that primary symbology on the Ass-end of the $1 Fed-note should tell you all you need to know if you happen to be capable of reading between the lines.
Are there White-Hats within the infrastructure who are cautiously biding their time? Quite likely. However, their interconnectivity is seriously compromised by their cell-phones and the locational devices embedded within all post 2002 vehicles. Eyes and ears are focused on even the slightest hints of opposition to the agenda.
Will some unforeseen outside manifestation upset their schemes and plots? Not unlikely.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 18:41 utc | 152

Laura Loomer on Twitter claims Biden’s health is deteriorating. FAA flight restrictions were just declared in Delaware, Biden’s home state, coinciding with his movement. Kamala could be announced president before election.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 22 2024 18:41 utc | 153

Two good bets worth placing:
i) Biden will no longer be president one week from today;
ii) Harris will lose the November election miserably.
Biden dropping out at this late stage means the Dems ain’t gonna win, not even if Obama’s smart brother were to run.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 22 2024 18:45 utc | 154

Clearly americans confuse the truth with mistaken self interest. Both Partys have been straingers to the truth for so long that its now cought up with them in a kind of nation wide group psycosis or mass histerea.
Mmmm fasinating to watch though.
Notice the lack of self awareness.
In stark contrast look at Putin and Russian polatics.
Let me be the first to suggest that America is no longer the most powerfull country in the world.
Its imploding.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 22 2024 18:45 utc | 155

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 22 2024 18:45 utc | 154
There is no election, just selection. The only way Trump “wins” is if it is decided he will push the genocide in Palestine netter than the DNC’s nominee.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 18:47 utc | 156

The MoA commentariat is infested with Trump idolators but the simple fact is, millions of people despise Trump.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 22 2024 18:21 utc | 147

I’ve watched, from a safe distance, the carpet bombing from the press since 2016. I’m not surprised that some of the population is deranged about a mild huckster who took a chance.
I just wonder how the rest managed to survive the onslaught. Ornery cusses, probably.

Posted by: pessoa | Jul 22 2024 18:49 utc | 157

Biden won partly because of not-Trump, but mostly because of mail-in ballots.
You are not ever going to convince me that Biden is so much more popular than Obama that he got almost 12 million more votes.
Note I am not saying this is illegal, per se. It is election manipulation, certainly, but it is within state’s rights to allow mass mail-in ballots despite the very real fraud enablement but more critically, structural skew of mail-in ballot distribution between the 2 main parties.
The fraud aspect is overegged because there is fraud on all sides; nursing homes are notorious for having nearly 100% full adherence to one party or the other in their mail-in ballots because obviously someone is simply voting on behalf of the non-compos-mentis residents, but this can be in either direction.
Nor is there a lack of fraud in Republican districts – let us not forget that local/municipal/state elections occur at the same time.
What is far less obviously legal is the $500M in cash and services that Zuckerberg contributed to Biden in 2020. Many people have noted how the 2020 election was not won so much by flipped districts as it was by true blue districts having even greater turnout and votes than “normal”. Some of this is mail-in, but the pattern manifests itself in in-person voting as well thus there is at least one more driver.
Nor is this consistent across all true-blue districts – only in a some specific states so it isn’t a mass Trump protest vote either.
But that is the past. Today, the Trump margin is so much enormously larger, and the Biden distrust/dislike so powerful, that this coming election is well beyond the margin for fraud or manipulation – or at least, manipulation short of outright tin-pot dictator type.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 18:51 utc | 158

Jumping into this erudite venue to say that Biden did not sign that withdrawal letter. Compared to others (e.g. on “Executive Orders), this is plain as day due to obvious anomalies and differences.
That he withdrew via this letter and not personal address to his staff and the American people is very unusual.
He has not been seen or heard from for 4 days. Demands for Biden’s “proof of life” is trending.
It is all suspicious beyond belief and experienced pols and aides do not do these things these ways.
Biden is either dead or there has been a silent and soft coup in the United States.

Posted by: Oddknot | Jul 22 2024 18:51 utc | 159

Jumping into this erudite venue to say that Biden did not sign that withdrawal letter. Compared to others (e.g. on “Executive Orders), this is plain as day due to obvious anomalies and differences.
That he withdrew via this letter and not personal address to his staff and the American people is very unusual.
He has not been seen or heard from for 4 days. Demands for Biden’s “proof of life” is trending.
It is all suspicious beyond belief and experienced pols and aides do not do these things these ways.
Biden is either dead or there has been a silent and soft coup in the United States.

Posted by: Oddknot | Jul 22 2024 18:51 utc | 160

UWDude | Jul 22 2024 13:03 utc | 16
*** So I doubt Biden will be allowed to resign before his term is up … I think jill and dnc would try to cover up death or stroke until election ***
Enough preservatives to last that time, with the occasional “in person” at a window appearance (hidden mechanism attached to wave a hand or something?) … and maybe a bit of computer generated simulation if really necessary the rest of the time?
Is that possible?
Or if a “secret”, would anyone Establishment admit to noticing anyway?
For some reason the Sherri Tepper sci-fi book “The Awakeners” came to mind.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 22 2024 18:53 utc | 161

peterAU1@1726
Gotcha. Aware that an Aussie prime minister who opposed the Down Underites joining in on the fun in Vietnam was sacked by Quean Bizzy Lizzie’s Governor General. The current Monarch, Chuckie the First, is undoubtedly the largest land-owner in the world, while the private exchequer of the Monarchy is probably far more well-padded than that of the Sceptred Isle.
All at the same instant, that private bank in City of London dominates Western financial affairs. Meanwhile, as immigration levels continue apace, the proportion of Brits falling into poverty is expanding almost exponentially. Obviously, affairs are askew…throughout the now more subdued but still real Empire.
Cosmic justice asserts that the Empire must fall and the entire ruling elites, Etonians and suchlike trash, need to become unseated from their nice little comfort zones.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 18:54 utc | 162

@Oddknot #159
It doesn’t matter if he signed it or not – what matters is that he is not disputing it.
If he truly did not agree to resign, such fakery would not hold up.
Of course, the other possibility is that Biden is literally incapacitated or dead – but this also would be obvious pretty quickly. The very fact that he is keeping on as President despite not running for re-election argues against the dead/incapacitated possibility.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 18:55 utc | 163

So Biden is dying from an OD of the cocktail they injected him for the NATO summit and the TV debate?
Like father, like son

Posted by: Minaa | Jul 22 2024 19:00 utc | 164

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 18:51 utc | 158
I caucused for Howard Dean in 2004 in my county.
There were about 100 people there when I arrived. Most were for howard Dean or Kucinich. About ten minutes before the star of the caucus, a whole bunch of old people started coming in.
During the caucus, you go around and try to convince others to vote for your candidate.
The old people, dozens and dozens of them, stayed together, a lot of them played cards, none would talk. Every single one was for John Kerry.
And John Kerry won. Then all the old people left at once, headed for their busses that brought them.
Kudos to those who refused to switch to Xean from Kucinich, though I tried to convince them. In the end,Dean turned put to be just another douche..

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 19:02 utc | 165

Thank you guys and gals for not blaming Biden’s shortcomings as strictly age-related. After all you’d resent that when you become his age (81). . . I’m 87 BTW.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 22 2024 19:07 utc | 166

It is hard to ascertain more than this at this point.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2024 16:01 utc | 90
More likely than most of the theories, and infinitely more entertaining.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jul 22 2024 19:08 utc | 167

Its clear to me. Biden was locked up with aides and others under the pretext he had covid. The aides worked on him for two days and finally persuaded him to stand down. To make it appear it was solely his decision a statement was issued to the effect that biden told his aides “one minute” before he sent the letter.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Jul 22 2024 12:23 utc | 3
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Yes, I have come to a similar conclusion. The covid diagnosis was a convenient pretext to take Biden out of the public eye, but also to “isolate” him. Isolation of an individual is a clear danger signal of elder abuse, according to social workers etc. who work with seniors and senior law.
Elder abusers often are family members, and there is often money involved, so it’s a combo of criminal and civil law, and that means that crimes of elder abuse often fall between the legal cracks when it comes to trying to prevent elder abuse or prosecute those who commit it and, say, defraud or neglect elders. The victims often shield the perps, especially if the former and confused.
Under these murky conditions Biden putatively signed an extremely important document that has huge legal ramifications for Biden personally, and for the nation. If he is non compis mentis, and many of the “party faithful” assert as a reason for wanting him to step down, then it is my understanding that no legal document signed by him has any validity because he is not of sound mind. Plus, it has been stated that he is ill. That is another issue when it comes to signing any kind of contract, changing a will, etc. Who are the witnesses to this cancellation of Biden’s “contract with America”?
IANAL, but these thoughts on the whole matter are based on issues of elder abuse that arose in my own family in connection with both of my parents, at which time I did a lot of research on the subject.
I am hugely skeptical of the legality of any document signed by Biden under the circumstances that have been described and announced—and after looking at the photo of the document itself.
It looks like something that could have been cooked up in the middle of the night, possibly after Biden had been berated and pressured for a number of days. It carries zero legal weight because it is just a personal document, not an official one. And, as mentioned, he may have been under duress when he “wrote” and “signed” it.
Despite Biden’s obvious confusion and mental decline, I have had the impression, and stated, that Biden know the power game, understands what’s up (even if not the details), and would not go quietly.
Furthermore, agreeing not to seek reelection is not the same thing as resigning the presidency. Why are pundits conflating those two things? When Johnson decided not to seek reelection, he remained in office until the following January.

Posted by: Jane | Jul 22 2024 19:14 utc | 168

Symbologically, if not statecraftly meaningful, the Giggler who rose to prominence in Cali politrix by lap dancing for then S.F. mayor Willie Brown…happens to symbologically represent a most fascinating iteration of diversity on Wokie steroids.
As the theme goes, she’s kinduva everybody’s embodiment of rising womanhood, being primarily of Hindustani descent, along with genes from a European ancestored slave-holder…and the perfect Jamaican ginger beer sparkle of formerly enslaved Bantu African heritage.
Certain types of women, those who hold one or more college/university degrees of Entitlement…for the most part…will perceive the Giggler as the idealized embodiment of their most wetted dreams…a fully empowered female of actually the same sex.
Big Mike certainly would not do for that role…as too much dirt on the wide-shouldered insider joke has surfaced in “her” case.
So the core constitutency for the Giggler would be located in Northhampton, Massachusetts and likely drive a Soo-Bar-Roo. Will the average Afro-American Black citizen feel obliged to vote for that one? Perhaps those in the Black Lives Material Gurrl crowd will find her quite suitable. How bout Latinos? Uh-uh. In many respects Latinos tend to be culturally traditional…so there will be some slippage within that demographic. Gays? For sure, if they are all about Gay Marriage and think Pete Butt-Jiggler is the cat’s meow. Johnny and Joanie Paycheck? Fuggidaboudit. No way Jose’.
Thus the ongoing clown show. Entertaining? Oh yes! Symbologically indicative of a healthy political reality in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”? Think about it.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 19:18 utc | 169

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 18:40 utc | 151
Brave New World Revisited is handy to read after BNW. After Many a Summer Dies the Swan is another dystopic Huxley novel, too.
Island is good, too.
I used to like Huxley.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 22 2024 19:20 utc | 170

ctue@1855
Should you happen to invest the time to do some research, investigation, you should discover that the $enile One has been on occasion replaced by one or more than one body-double. The masks they wear are top of the line productions of the Agency’s specialty divisions. One video clip I happened to see was not well done. The obvious gap between mask and neck was evidentially clear. Voice modification technology is also in the hands of the stage-managers.
So would the real Joe Biden please stand up and take a bow.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 19:22 utc | 171

Jumping into this erudite venue to say that Biden did not sign that withdrawal letter. Compared to others (e.g. on “Executive Orders), this is plain as day due to obvious anomalies and differences.
That he withdrew via this letter and not personal address to his staff and the American people is very unusual.
He has not been seen or heard from for 4 days. Demands for Biden’s “proof of life” is trending.
It is all suspicious beyond belief and experienced pols and aides do not do these things these ways.
Biden is either dead or there has been a silent and soft coup in the United States.
Posted by: Oddknot | Jul 22 2024 18:51 utc | 160
It’s been elder abuse from day 1. Given the way this was done, it is certain he was surrounded by pressuring handlers, Jill was promised something to STFU, the statement was prewritten and he was told to just sign it. Then he got a big dose of happy juice which he’s still on at the moment. When they need him they will prep him, give him some wake up juice and when he can repeat the talking points adequately they will have a very stage managed presser to prove it was not a fraud.
What I think is amusing is that they have spent a month attacking his competency. Then they seem to think his endorsement, of anything, is somehow valuable in the eyes of the world. Nobody with half a brain buys it. Everyone knows these people have been running things behind a demented corpse and now with Kamala we’re supposed to just forget all that.
The investigation of Trumps assassin is getting very interesting too. The evidence is strongly pointing to what most clever folks here asserted shortly after it happened: Ukronazi obsessed deep state set it up and it failed, boosting Trump and sending them into a panic, so they removed the corpse jammed the black woman into place and reset, tootsweet.
Usual disclaimer on this website, but this one is worth a peak. Pretty interesting…
“Many unanswered questions remain more than a week after Trump assassination attempt”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/22/anpo-j22.html

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 22 2024 19:29 utc | 172

I dont see how Brave New World is more relevant today than 1984.
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 18:40 utc | 151
Although funny woudn’t list demolition man in dystopia literature.
Dystopia or not there was only ONE author that basically nailed it in “prophetic vision” Brunner (apart from worms in IT his big vision, stand on zanzibar is as close to a bullseye as you get in authors)
P.S. Buy it or use yandex to searh for an epub

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 19:29 utc | 173

@Honzo | Jul 22 2024 17:26 utc | 128
When respected posters provide theories like yours, reality is off the charts. Thanks for sharing your thinking, even if things turns out different. This is an extremely unique and dangerous situation.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 19:30 utc | 174

: Polli | Jul 22 2024 12:49 utc | 12
Not if both parties are corrupted by the same forces

Posted by: eagle eye | Jul 22 2024 19:30 utc | 175

Posted by: Carlos Marquez | Jul 22 2024 13:36 utc | 29
i feel and share your anger, but using “the US have never seen democrasy” is true.
But it is true for another reeason you think,,, the USofA is a Republic,, indeed the founding fathers loathed mob rule(‘democrasy’) so they founded a Republic🤷‍♂️🫡🤓
And if you are European/Latino i need to ask you, when did You ever experience democrasy?
I am almost 50, and i have certaily Never experienced any democrasy in my lifetime.
Here we have selected idiots or groomed family empires that pretends to disagre every second year…
And afaik the (s)elections and politics is not different i any european country and most of latin america🧐
If you live in a BRICS+ country, good luck at least you live in a zone with a future👍
Per
Norway

Posted by: Per/Norway | Jul 22 2024 19:32 utc | 176

Jane @ 168
Thank you for that comment, thats the best explaination yet.
Sadly many times the perpitrators get away with it.
‘Coercive control’
Worth looking up.
Much respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 22 2024 19:34 utc | 177

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 22 2024 18:21 utc | 147
If you cant see how cultism is instrumental to both the Right and Left you have lost the plot. Purity tests are ubiquitous in cults and a central part of the Democrat’s cancel culture since Hillary’s loss. You are far more likely to be eliminated in social circles by showing support of Trump to the left, than showing support of Obama, Biden, Harris to the Right. The Democratic platform, i.e Liberalism is the theology of the Left; this is why you cant discuss the Biden’s Ukraine War, or Obama/Clinton’s Libya or Syria Wars let alone trans issues with the Left – because of the cult of personality around these leaders. Its why an incompetent Kamala Harris is now the DNC’s presidential candidate, because nobody can critique the cult of Diversity – there is nothing scientific about the Left, it is just another cult as is the Zionist Right.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jul 22 2024 19:35 utc | 178

Posted by: Polli | Jul 22 2024 12:49 utc | 12

A two party state is twice as democratic as a one party state.

That’s a good arithmetical-political joke, since 2×0 = 0. By similar reasoning an n party state is n times as democratic as a one party state, and n×0 = 0. Jokes aside, let’s think seriously about representative democracy and its democratic alternatives.

Posted by: dcouzin | Jul 22 2024 19:37 utc | 179

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 19:29 utc | 173
I added Demolition Man for its portrayal of future sex, and the hyper-cleanliness, and strange form of soft control over society, built with technology and conditioning.
The Franchise wars are yet to come, though.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 19:37 utc | 180

Jane@1914
Excellent, informed points regarding elder abuse. Your experience in that realm gives you a high level of credibility. Thanks.
Your ultimate paragraph about the conflation of “opting” not to run with continuing “duties” in the Oval Orfice has the tenor of a wake-up call.
Most objective observers would tend to agree that the $enile One, actually was not duly elected and that he never had a scintilla of actual agency while in office. He’s been managed the whole while.
What is highly suspicious is that most of his managers appear to have emanated from that 2.5% ethnicity which has become so prominent, even dominant in public affairs. Dual citizens abound, with both the Department of $tate and the 911 Inside-Job created Department of insider Security headed by individuals whose first obligations happen to be a foreign entity.
If America was still American, only those whose allegiance is to our currently ruptured Republic should hold high federal offices. These matters are prima facie evidence that the U$$A is but a tool of alien special interests…and a host of Ivy Leaguers who are in for the “honors”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jul 22 2024 19:38 utc | 181

@c1ue | Jul 22 2024 17:52 utc | 135

Biden has acquiesced to exiting the election

That is a disputed ‘fact’ that needs confirmation before it can be believed. If true, he should go immediately live on TV and say he is quitting the race. If the letter was his, for sure his mental capacity is sufficient for a live statement. If he doesn’t have the mental capacity, he needs to resign (25th Amendment).

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 19:38 utc | 182

@aristodemos #171
Why bother with complicated amateurish nonsense like body doubles when you have the real thing, just trivially manipulated into doing whatever is desired?

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 19:38 utc | 183

How long after Harris becomes president will she pardon Hunter of all his sins?
How convenient.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 22 2024 19:41 utc | 184

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 19:29 utc | 173
I added Demolition Man for its portrayal of future sex, and the hyper-cleanliness, and strange form of soft control over society, built with technology and conditioning.
The Franchise wars are yet to come, though.
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 19:37 utc | 180
I know, and probably one of stalone’s best
I once thought that in irony Arnold had hit it with Demolition Man is way cooler.
But the mais point now is IF Biden is legally alive 😀

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 19:43 utc | 185

Fahrenheit 454 has the killer robot government dogs that we see now recently. It also has our giant flat screen tv’s loaded with gubmint propaganda and vapid soap operas with same.
A worthwhile read. IMHO.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jul 22 2024 19:44 utc | 186

Oh Please,
Does anyone not American / living in America really, honestly, believe “Biden”, who has not been running anything (other than to the rest room or for ice cream) for the last few years, has had any say in that letter?
To anyone not American he is the proverbial “Dog King” or Naked Emperor.
Anyone still saying Biden this or Biden that deserves what is coming.

Posted by: Oh Pleeeeese | Jul 22 2024 19:45 utc | 187

@UWDude | Jul 22 2024 18:40 utc | 151

I’ve never read Fahrenheit 454, so I cant list it.

It’s Fahrenheit 451, the temperature at which paper burns. I read it in translation 40+ years ago. It is highly relevant to todays censorship, the censors are book burners.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 19:46 utc | 188

“@ canuck | Jul 22 2024 14:44 utc | 59
you liked his book.. you like this fairy tale about self made man rising from rags to riches?? the problem is – it’s a complete con job which keeps most people distracted about what truly matters here… this is a class war… the rags to riches story is a sales pitch and you fall for it by the look of it..”
Posted by: james | Jul 22 2024 16:10 utc | 97
I also like his movie of the same nomenclature.
With all due respect without successful ‘rags to riches story’ (mine is one of them, by the way-but no book or movie , at least not yet)there would have been a French Revolution type unrest earlier.
I do agree that we are about that point once more, but would not a character like Vance with his background to be a suitable leader to understand the hoi polloi?
Of course, he would.
But can he be corrupted?-perhaps he already has been-let’s see.
What is your answer you take over? Come on guys you lefties don’t think of the probably you linger on the idealistic which never happens.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 22 2024 19:51 utc | 189

@ despondent | Jul 22 2024 16:16 utc | 99
i don’t read ZH, but i know some of the posters read it regularly and share or quote from it here from time to time..
@ too scents | Jul 22 2024 16:18 utc | 101
true!
@ despondent | Jul 22 2024 16:23 utc | 102
lol – good one!
@ hopehely | Jul 22 2024 16:42 utc | 112
that is a fair analogy.. thanks..
@ Honzo | Jul 22 2024 17:13 utc | 121
agree.. canuck is surprisingly naive..
@ Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 22 2024 18:08 utc | 141
maybe.. i think trump hits a rough patch beginning in sept, so it is possible.. i am not convinced kamala is the lead dem yet though…
@ Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 19:38 utc | 182
fully concur.. until then – hard to know what is happening here..

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2024 19:54 utc | 190

Cannuck @ 189
In two words…
Law and order. Break the law, get locked up.
Next.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 22 2024 19:57 utc | 191

With all due respect without successful ‘rags to riches story’ (mine is one of them, by the way-but no book or movie , at least not yet)…
Posted by: canuck | Jul 22 2024 19:51 utc | 189
Mine is a rags to homeowner-with-a-mortgage-and-student-loan-payments story. Still looking for the riches…

Posted by: Phil R | Jul 22 2024 19:58 utc | 192

@ canuck | Jul 22 2024 19:51 utc | 189
thanks canuck.. my position runs something like this.. the american empire is on the edge of a precipice.. now maybe i am wrong and it has much further to go, but at present it seems like the unipolar power is like an empire beyond its time – fading.. just how fast – i am not sure.. as for who gets elected – both of them are serving the same party as i see it – the war party… democracy is a nice facade to maintain appearances, but that is not how things work when bribery is legal.. its called ”lobbying”.. vance is a byproduct of peter thiel and others like him… kamala or whoever runs for the dems – the very same thing…
the reality for us leftists – i am not sure that is the right way to define me – is that things will get worse no matter who gets elected.. i say this for canada too where we have similar lousy choices and where it never seems to matter… i was just informed berneir is no longer advocating for canada to get out of nato… nato will probably die before any true leader is discovered from canada… until something changes – it is all downhill from here.. that is how i see it..

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2024 19:59 utc | 193

ABC News:
Pelosi endorses Harris with ‘immense pride,’ praises Biden’s ‘wisdom’

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 22 2024 20:00 utc | 194

But the mais point now is IF Biden is legally alive 😀
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2024 19:43 utc | 185
Right. Add “Weekend at Bernies” to the list.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2024 20:10 utc | 195

@Norwegian #182
It has been more than 24 hours since the initial letter came out.
I really don’t see why there needs to be any analysis beyond waiting some time for Biden to dispute this.
Do you really think Biden wanted to not run for re-election? Therefore he was pushed into resigning.
But he did not resign as President. As I have noted in previous posts – this hurts the Democrat party and Kamala both, and clearly cannot be what either of these entities want.
Too many people are lost in the Hall of Mirrors because of inexperienced and/or bad analysis.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 20:16 utc | 196

@Oh Pleeeeese #187
Yes because the fuss and mass media/social campaign – to get him to not run for President – has been enormously damaging to the Democrat party.
If Biden was just a sock puppet, why air the dirty laundry?

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 20:18 utc | 197

@c1ue | Jul 22 2024 20:16 utc | 196

Do you really think Biden wanted to not run for re-election? Therefore he was pushed into resigning.

The only credible info we have is what he said multiple times. He said he wanted and intended to run for re-election.
It does not automatically follow from the letter that he was pushed to resign from the race, although it is perhaps the most likely explanation. Another possibility is he is dead or has become non compos mentis, and this suspicious resignation letter is not written or signed by him.
In any case, I would count the letter as invalid. Because he was pushed or because someone else wrote it without his participation.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2024 20:25 utc | 198

Incorrect. If Biden was really purely a finger puppet – he would be out already both from the Democrat nominee for President and from the actual office of President.
Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2024 17:52 utc | 135
………………………………….
True. In life as in politics, there is always a mix of truth and Kabuki, including truth within Kabuki and Kabuki within the truth.
One of the most pervasive (and pernicious) fallacies promulgated by most of us nowadays (because we are brainwashed materialists) is that there is such a thing as objective truth in human affairs whereas in fact just about every aspect of civilizational experience involves active participation in collectively engendered imaginary realities, aka nations, states, communities, ideologies etc.
Thus Biden both is and is not a real President depending on view and context.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2024 20:26 utc | 199

To anyone not American he is the proverbial “Dog King” or Naked Emperor.
Anyone still saying Biden this or Biden that deserves what is coming.
Posted by: Oh Pleeeeese | Jul 22 2024 19:45 utc | 187
I just used the naked emperor as an example when talking to someone about Biden the other day. Four years ago any 8 year old would be aware Biden has severe mental problems. I know the Internet says half the country loves and respects the corpse and the party that propped it up to allow the certain “chosen” oligarchs to run things directly, but I tend to doubt that.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 22 2024 20:27 utc | 200