I think Z and the West are going to just try to outlast Putin.
Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 22 2024 0:35 utc | 98

Now it is not enough for this duderoo to overrule Putin, he starts giving assignments to Z and the West.
Russia tasks are clrarly stated as “No land grab, Ukie demilitarisation”, but this dude been ordering Russia for months to grab land and chastizing them when they had the audacity to disobey his orders.
Ukie plans are also clearly stated “to return to the 1991 borders” but this dude orders them to just hang around and proclaims them heroes because he is optimistic that for some time yet hang around they will.
Seriously?

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 1:20 utc | 104

More related to my #66 above …. economics of the Land – made pre-war/SMO
Ukraine Sits On Raw Materials Worth Trillions. The Country’s Chance for Reconstruction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BftqoZOryDo [17 mins]

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 22 2024 1:41 utc | 106

Posted by: Cheney | Jun 21 2024 23:25 utc | 90 “I would have though you would know not to make a big deal about 50,000 versus 60,000.”
Seems like a 20% increase would be a big deal. At some point they are going to run if those numbers are correct. My opinion is that they are high. But at least nowhere as high as the 10-1 numbers that got thrown around for a long time.

Posted by: Ed4 | Jun 22 2024 2:13 utc | 108

RE

Therefore, South Korea is going to reconsider its attitude towards the supply of lethal weapons to Kiev. Previously, the South Koreans did not supply anything to Ukraine.
Posted by: james | Jun 21 2024 15:50 utc | 13

Um, I don’t think that is correct.
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/1119320
WaPo: Seoul supplied more shells to Ukraine than all of Europe …6 Dec 2023
https://www.csis.org/analysis/can-south-korean-105-millimeter-ammunition-rescue-ukraine
Can South Korean 105-Millimeter Ammunition Rescue Ukraine? 22 Mar 2024 … South Korea has stepped up before. Press reports in April 2023 suggested that South Korea agreed to lend 300,000 155 mm artillery shells to the …
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/18avx27/s_korea_indirectly_supplied_more_155mm_shells_for/
S. Korea indirectly supplied more 155-mm shells for Ukraine than all … 4 Dec 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/03/01/with-a-million-shells-about-to-ship-ukraines-artillery-crisis-could-end-soon/
With A Million Shells About To Ship, Ukraine’s Ammo Crisis Might End …2 Mar 2024 … It was artillery parity, thanks to a U.S. purchase of a million South Korean shells, that allowed Ukraine to go on the attack last summer.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 2:26 utc | 110

@steven t johnson | Jun 22 2024 0:16 utc | 96
re: Trump didn’t get out of Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq etc.
–Trump drew up the plan to leave Afghanistan, and Biden followed up on it. No plan, no departure.
–Trump did leave the other two countries, but then Biden sent other occupiers
–Trump did have a plan to cease the war with DPRK, but it got no respect when he brought it to Washington. Now, we could say that since the US is a democracy an autocratic president won’t necessarily be obeyed. Or, my belief, Trump was forced to see a video on Dealey Plaza. Keeping DPRK as an enemy another seventy years is an absolute needed strategy to keep US military bases one air-hour from China, plus thousands of troops in Japan. No changes are allowed, keep the Korean War going.
So you’re way away from the truth, Steven, and I haven’t even mentioned his dumping on NATO which no other Washington VIP would ever dare say.
Bottom line — Trump was not an emperor who got whatever he wanted. But he sure tried.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2024 2:31 utc | 112

steven t johnson | Jun 22 2024 0:16 utc | 96
…nutjobs accused Clinton of treason for Clinton Ca$h, Benghazi and email servers or a pawn like Clinton was of China…
Err. Steve. Have one name for you… Julian Assange.
The reason he’s being persecuted and slow killed is because he published the emails proving all the facts of Clinton ca$h, Benghazi, email servers and and and AND and ….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 22 2024 2:53 utc | 114

trump does get some stuff right… and i think this is a good election tactic if nothing else..
Posted by: james | Jun 21 2024 18:27 utc | 57
He’s also lying by omission james, because Trumps admin also called for Ukr to join Nato … specifically sos Pompeo in early 2020

Michael Tracey THREAD
@mtracey
Jun 20
Trump said in an interview that one of the “wrong things” Biden said before the Ukraine invasion was “Ukraine will go into NATO.” Trump forgot to mention that his own administration unwaveringly affirmed the same thing! Sorry, we have an actual record now. Video Mike Pompeo, 1/31/2020:
Trump and Pompeo re-started the “US-Ukraine Strategic Partnership” which included re-affirmation of Ukraine joining NATO. Ukraine was then upgraded to NATO “Enhanced Opportunities Partner” in June 2020. The utter refusal to acknowledge Trump’s actual record is just maddening
In 2018, Trump and Pompeo revived the “US-Ukraine Strategic Partnership Commission,” which jointly affirmed that Ukraine will join NATO. This was then codified by the Biden Admin in 2021. I know people prefer to imagine a fantasy version of Trump, but it’s very boring and Low IQ
No self-respecting or minimally-informed interviewer would allow Trump to repeat “it never would’ve happened” for the millionth time about Ukraine and Israel without articulating an actual policy position on anything. Enough of this tedious counter-factual evasion tactic
“>https://nitter.poast.org/mtracey/status/1803925907528134770#m

The biggest fantasy version of Trump is usually Trump himself LOL
IF TRUMP was President none of this would have happened LOL
For 4 years the Trump admin retrained and armed the UKR army!!! Plus 20 Oct 2018 … Donald Trump has confirmed the US will leave an arms control treaty with Russia dating from the cold war that has kept nuclear missiles out of …
Not long after Trump left office … SHIT HIT FAN in Ukr and Russia in early 2021 ……. with Nato/US armed and trained UKR forces forming armies to attack the donbass and confront Russian borders;
(I am not defending Biden – they are both losers)
plus generally …
Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg welcomed Ukraine’s new President, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, to NATO Headquarters on Tuesday (4 June 2019) for bilateral talks, as well as a meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Commission focused on the security situation in the country. Calling Ukraine a “highly valued partner,”
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_166570.htm
Trump / WH Admin said nothing about stopping UKR from entering Nato, or respecting Russia’s dire nato related security concerns.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 3:38 utc | 116

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 1:20 utc | 103
Do you think that Anonymous could arrange tickets for the “Crimea Beach Party” for me? I realise that for some reason it has been postponed, but Anonymous may have an update on when we might expect this fabulous event.
On reflection, it would probably waste my time asking that shill anything. Sorry if I’ve wasted any of yours.
Regards-

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jun 22 2024 4:07 utc | 118

The Zionists may staged a false flag event during the Olympics and blame Iran.
Quite a few US states have declared a State of Emergency, tornado season?
Was the Swiss conference used as a cover to finalize a counter offensive in the Kharkov and Zaporozhye regions with F16s and militaries from NATO states?

Posted by: Suresh | Jun 22 2024 4:16 utc | 120

@ @ Tom Pfotzer | Jun 21 2024 18:40 utc | 61
thanks tom.. i agree and thought it was very clear from the 13 minute video…
@ Ahenobarbus | Jun 21 2024 20:22 utc | 71
well trump being a slave to israel ( as lovedonbass notes @ 76)- we know that won’t happen, don’t we?
@ Don Bacon | Jun 21 2024 23:10 utc | 88
yes – true, but for some reason the flaws in all of the leadership candidates are just too glaringly bad, it leaves everyone with next to no choices.. i can see why people in the usa don’t bother to vote.. i feel about the same here in canada… however there is a guy who is the leader of the ppc here in canada – maxine berneir, who wants to get canada out of nato.. i am voting for him on that basis alone as flawed as he might be in other areas.. and i tend to share @ steven t johnson | Jun 22 2024 0:16 utc | 96 viewpoint as well..
@ Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 2:26 utc | 109
as i mentioned in some of the later comments on this thread – sk is a servant to the usa.. whether they will change their mind on that – it is highly unlikely.. oh and that is a quote from an intel slava link that i didn’t bother to share, but i did preface it by saying it was a quote – not mine…
@ Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 3:38 utc | 115
lying by omission – oh indeed.. as a student of the western msm, he has learned very well… whether the average american can pick up any of this – is probably unlikely..

Posted by: james | Jun 22 2024 4:20 utc | 122

@Ed4 | Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:13:00 GMT | 107

At some point they are going to run if those numbers are correct. My opinion is that they are high. But at least nowhere as high as the 10-1 numbers that got thrown around for a long time.

Yes, I agree. Those numbers are probably wildly off. A 10:1 or even a 5:1 difference in kill ratios is something you only see, in modern times at least, in wars that are dominated by one side, and thus over in a few days: the Gulf War, and maybe the Six Day War come to mind.

Posted by: James M. | Jun 22 2024 5:04 utc | 124

The current pace of advance will not take even the remaining parts of the claimed 4 oblasts in weeks or months. It would take over a decade at current glacial rate of advance to take even just the remaining parts of the 4 oblasts. That’s not even considering the extreme difficulties with crossing the river and taking Kherson city.
The Odessa fantasists are as silly as the Crimea beach party crew. Both examples of Internet sillies. And that one does not adhere does not make the other correct. They are both wrong. There is a reason why the Korean War was settled almost exactly at the line of contact.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 22 2024 6:06 utc | 126

Nothing new, azov heroes shooting anyone retreating, but I remembered that some weeks ago I joked that wherever they were the AFU front was about to fall.
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 21 2024 14:13 utc | 4
Why would Selenskys club of surrender monkeys be any different from any other Nazi-Scum? They torture prisoners, they torch houses, they beat up and shoot people too weak to defend themselves. When a real enemy shows up, they run screaming under Mama skirt. Remember Mariupol? Heroes fight. They don’t hide in basements, they don’t surrender by the thousands.
Not so different from NATO armies, btw, #Vietnam #Kabul airport #Libya #Guantanamo Bay #Rakka #Mosul #Falludscha #Abu Graib. Which might explain why they are best friends, why the US of A sends Azow the bullets they use to shoot their own comrade in the back.

Posted by: Marvin | Jun 22 2024 6:19 utc | 128

June 22nd is the day in 1941 when western and central European countries lead by Germany launched operation Barbarossa against the Soviet Union. It is also the day in 1944 that the Soviets launched operation Bagration against army group central – the penultimate nail in the coffin of that alliance.
It is worth reflecting upon a comparison of the way in which on this day Germany, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Italy and eventually divisions from France and Spain engaged in this and later operations and how NATO member states are going about the conflict in Ukraine. Logistically and economically Barbarossa was a massive undertaking drawing huge amounts of human and other resources from all countries involved, and these countries were unified by types of authoritarian and fascist governments made subservient to the orchestra conductor in Berlin.
As the former head of the Czech office for armaments Jaroslav Štefec made clear in a recent interview, any significant NATO intervention in Ukraine will require logistical and economic commitments comparable to at least a portion of Barbarossa. However this will have to come from disunited and less than fascistic (at the moment) states with very different objectives for their economies. Nearly all are running budget deficits even beyond EU guidelines. Logistical commitments to supporting troops will be one new cost, increasing the size of the military to another magnitude (the minimum required to go about it seriously) will multiply not only that cost but multiply as well baseline costs, and compound that with the fact that combat pay for soldiers is usually much higher than peace-time pay.
Instead of entering into a conflict against an opponent, who is the inheritor of the power that defeated the Barbarossa coalition, in a highly dedicated and organized why, the west is more staggering into it like a gang of drunk and angry tramps.
That does not bode well for future success of a war of the peninsula against the heartland.

Posted by: kvp | Jun 22 2024 7:23 utc | 130

Sept 2023 — RAND opinion / propaganda (aka exageration and lies) on Russia China North Korea …. in view of new Russia-DPRK agreement
The first is that substantial North Korean and Chinese assistance to Russia could prolong the war in Ukraine and substantially increase the damage inflicted and the war costs.
Second, China and North Korea might do more than send equipment and supplies to Ukraine. They might also send some military personnel and even technical experts.
Third, because all three members of this trilateral imperialist partnership seek to control territory beyond their current borders, they may at some point decide to start wars simultaneously. By attacking at the same time, they would put maximum pressure on the military forces of their opponents, much as the Axis powers did early in World War II.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2023/09/north-korea-russia-and-china-the-developing-trilateral.html
They really are unhinged at Rand. They would get paid more in Hollywood writing movie scripts.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 7:50 utc | 132

The most important part of the Russia-North Korea agreement is that Korea is in Asia. On the European front, NATO, EU and Ukraine are convenient proxies behind which the US can hide. In Asia, the US stands exposed.
So what countermove is next? South Korea sacrificing itself for the USA? That would be a boon for Chinese smartphone manifacturers. Japan invading the Kurill islands, against Russia? Philippines taking the Spratly, against China?
After Ukraine, there is no doubt what happens to the proxy.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 22 2024 8:11 utc | 134

Russia fears a NATO attack. Here’s why.
As its Ukrainian proxy faces defeat, the US-led bloc is becoming increasingly reckless. Where will this hubris lead us?
By Igor Istomin, acting head of the Department of Applied Analysis of International Problems at MGIMO University.
https://www.swentr.site/russia/599654-nato-attack-russia-attitude/

Finding the ‘golden mean’
In the case of the question posed in the title, analysis shows that the answer is likely to be positive. Russia faces the difficult task of containing escalation in a context of low receptivity to Western signals. Attempts to convey the seriousness of the situation are either dismissed out of hand or interpreted as manifestations of Russian aggressiveness.
Read more
Ivan Timofeev: Russia and NATO are drifting towards a major war
In the face of such indoctrination, there is a danger that we ourselves will slip into a similar exaggeration, trying to force the enemy to abandon its adventurous line with even riskier demonstrations of resolve. So far, the Russian leadership has managed to resist these temptations.
Undoubtedly, Western attempts to raise the stakes must be responded to. At the same time, it makes sense to focus the damage on the NATO member states themselves, not just their proxies (the focus should be on the notorious “decision centers”). Statements about the possible transfer of long-range weapons to US adversaries and the visit of Russian ships to Cuba are logical steps in this direction.
Perhaps the range of responses could also include the shooting down of drones carrying out reconnaissance for Ukraine over the Black Sea. This would also allow for a total ban on their flights in the adjacent waters. Russian deterrence could also be complemented by maneuvers in the Baltic, Mediterranean or North Atlantic with other states that are considered to be Western adversaries.
The expectations from use of deterrence should be weighed against historical experience, which shows that the response to such actions is more often to harden the adversary than to encourage them to make concessions. In particular, this calls into question the validity of sometimes heard suggestions of nuclear strikes for demonstration purposes. Such actions are more likely to have the opposite effect to that envisaged by their authors, i.e. to bring direct military confrontation with NATO closer rather than further away.
This article was first published by the Valdai Discussion Club, translated and edited by the RT team.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 8:26 utc | 136

Posted by: kvp | Jun 22 2024 7:23 utc | 129
The same countries that attacked Russia in 1941 are attacking Russia now, with the honorable exception of Hungary.
Take the example of Spain. In 1941 a right-wing dictator, in 2022 a left-wing progressive government. In both cases joining a war against Russia. History repeats itself everywhere, except in Hungary.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 22 2024 8:31 utc | 138

I don’t see DPRK and even less China supplying fighting troops, Russia is rather proud about holding its own, and it would be an admission of faltering on the home front, but the real problem with fighting troops would be prisoners. If NATO enters the fray, and it will be as it’s been, incremental, maybe DPRK troops can come in as artillery and drone operators in the rear as a warning to NATO but, I don’t see it. Belarus joining the SCO and CSTO would be a way for Asian troops to enter the fray, Belarus could send a call for help, not to fight, but to bulwark the home front if Belarus and Russian troops decide to move into Ukraine. I don’t think that’s around the corner unless NATO bum-rushes WW3.
I do see Chinese and DPRK workers heading into factories in Russia, but civilian and military, it would be a trusted workforce that isn’t subverted with NATO saboteurs.
Where I am in Europe I see more and more Chinese stores and restaurants closing where they had been sprouting like mushrooms in the rain, are they leaving for good, do they know something, heard something in the grapevine? I live in a poor area all around and for everyone so hard to get a good view. The Chinese emigre community abroad works very hard for little money and are capitalized by a Chinese mafia that keeps them in debt bondage, maybe greener pastures are opening up in Russia?
I always thought Chinese emigres in the EU were a soft power move by China to set up an economic and labor lobby in individual EU countries, especially the economically weaker ones like Italy, Greece and Spain – a subversion of the Brussels’s power. Driving out this emigre community might be a USA and Atlanticist goal.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 22 2024 8:35 utc | 140

Dillie Keane
@DillieKeane
Banksy. Genius.
https://x.com/DillieKeane/status/1803828720836194627

Posted by: Menz | Jun 22 2024 8:35 utc | 142

Russian TG has been sceptical of this format for the same reason. Two FAB-1500s dropped precisely would be just as good in most cases, better in some, with lower cost / risk delivery vehicles. No one doubted the big-bada-boom but an optical seeker for exact targeting in daylight / dusk conditions would surely be more valuable. If one or more FAB-3000 carriers is lost this will suddenly come into focus.
Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 22 2024 8:14 utc | 134
This whole hubbub about FAB-3000s sounds a lot like the feverish talk of some excited teenagers not getting enough tail for their taste. I mean, it’s really level 0 of military strategy and tactics if you think the answer to a conflict is to just build some bigger bombs and lob them at your adversary. I take it as yet another example of infantile military thinking of Americans fed on a steady diet of low-IQ big budget blockbusters. But real war is not a Bruckheimer movie.
We already heard the same thing with TOS-1 flamethrowers, Tornado MLRS, FAB-500, FAB-1000, FAB-1500. Each time we were told that Ukrainians would run in terror and that it would be the final gamechanger. In retrospect, what a balls-up.
I’ll explain it to you : FAB-3000s won’t change the deal one bit. It’s not about this or that wonder weapon. It’s about finding a a new technical or tactical paradigm to counter the fundamental revolution of constant ISR and drone waves. Russia hasn’t found the solution yet. In the meantime, throwing men or matériel at the problem will be as futile as the attempts in WWI to roll up machine gun nests and complex trench networks with classical massed infantry attacks in the Somme or the Chemin des Dames.
All available evidence, and there is plenty (just look at the torrent of videos from both sides) shows us that advances are slow, bloody, and difficult, the Ukrainians having top-notch ISR, FPV by the thousands and skilled operators, and top-notch artillery, gunners, and shells. Unless Russia radically changes its strategy and finds some geniuses and wiz kids, there is no reason to hope for massive advances or lopsided wins.

Posted by: Micron | Jun 22 2024 8:53 utc | 144

Ruling Class Finally Awakens to the Reality of America’s Decline?
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/ruling-class-finally-awakens-to-the

Posted by: guest | Jun 22 2024 9:00 utc | 146

Posted by: Micron | Jun 22 2024 8:35 utc | 140
Territory might not be a primary concern, it’s a side effect of destroying the enemy army, which then leaves gaps to move forward. Obviously it doesn’t mean territory would not be captured or it wouldn’t be announced.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 22 2024 9:22 utc | 148

Oh, and about the whole buffer zone thing. Remember when all the Z-bots were claiming the capture of Avdiivka would make Donetsk and Gorlovka secure ?
Posted by: Micron | Jun 22 2024 9:13 utc | 146

Nah, you idiots can not tell the difference – Donbass is Russian, it will be freed no matter what. But with the Kharkov Oblast it’s still another example of what could have been the end of Russian move inside the Ukie territory, if only Ukies stopped themselves from shooting at Russian peaceful cities.
If you are talking about ATACMs with their 300 km range – well, if they keep going towards Russian peacefull cities, that means that the sanitary zone will have to be more that 300 km, it’s easy.

Remember when colonel McGregor confidently claimed Russia would take Kharkov by June ? Oh you forgot that didn’t you ? Or when Kadyrow announced Russia would wrap the whole thing up by June, also.

I see that for you all straight men look the same, but neither colonel McGregor nor Kadyrow are are Russian MoD nor are they members of the Russian General Staff. They sure can say anything they want, but do not try to sell their words to the CIA as Russian military plans.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 9:41 utc | 150

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 9:41 utc | 149
Posted by: Micron | Jun 22 2024 9:13 utc | 146
AFU deployed several of the best nazi brigades and battalions in Kharkov, where they are now fighting in and around Vovchansk. They have managed to cling on to Vovchansk and even moved past Liptsty to Hlubove. In addition, they also recruited a mass of prisoners which they are using in this new offensive.
RU is building defense lines behind Vovchansk and Hlubove probably just in case.
Simplicius and Aleks/BMA argued, that there is a very high probability that this was a deliberate pinning act which Ukraine fell into in Kharkov region.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 22 2024 10:09 utc | 152

New from Scott Ritter, emphasising nuclear escalation threats:
It’s the end of the world as we know it
The American-NATO rush toward nuclear war with Russia

America’s addiction to nuclear weapons does not lend itself to deterrence-based stability. It only leads to war.
eg
The Russians conducted their exercises in two phases, with the first taking place in late May. There, the tactical missile forces of the Southern Military District practiced “the task of obtaining special training ammunition for the Iskander tactical missile system, equipping them with launch vehicles and secretly moving to the designated position area to prepare for missile launches.”
With a range of 500 kilometers, the Iskander-M, when fired from locations in Crimea, would be able to reach French bases located in Romania, which ostensibly would be used to surge forces into Ukraine.
The second phase of the exercises took place on June 10, when the Russian and Belorussian forces practiced the transfer of Russian nuclear weapons to Belorussian control as part of the new Russian nuclear sharing doctrine put in place by Vladimir Putin and his Belorussian counterpart, Alexander Lukashenko, earlier this year. The weapons involved included the Iskander-M missile and gravity bombs that would be delivered by modified Belorussian SU-25 aircraft. The weapons would put all of Poland and the Baltic States under the threat of nuclear attack.
—
Around the same time that Russia was carrying out its tactical nuclear drills, several NATO nations, including Germany, announced that they had given Ukraine the green light to use weapons it had provided to strike targets inside Russia.
“Constant escalation can lead to serious consequences,” Putin said. “If these serious consequences occur in Europe, how will the United States behave, bearing in mind our parity in the field of strategic weapons? It’s hard to say,” Putin said, answering his own question. “Do they want a global conflict?”
In an interview to the British Telegraph newspaper given at NATO’s headquarters building in Brussels, Belgium, Stoltenberg said that NATO members were consulting about deploying more nuclear weapons, taking them out of storage and placing them on standby in the face of a growing threat from Russia and China.
The only nuclear weapons currently in the NATO system are some 150 US-controlled B61 gravity bombs stored at six NATO bases: Kleine Brogel in Belgium, Büchel Air Base in Germany, Aviano and Ghedi Air Base in Italy, Volkel Air Base in the Netherlands and Incirlik in Turkey. NATO officials later clarified Stoltenberg’s remarks, saying there were no significant changes to the NATO nuclear posture, noting that Stoltenberg’s comments referred to the modernization of NATO’s nuclear deterrent, including the replacement of F-16 jets with F-35 stealth fighters, and the modernization of some of the B61 bombs currently deployed in Europe.
Stoltenberg’s comments to the Telegraph came 10 days after Pranay Vaddi, the senior director for arms control at the National Security Council, announced a “new era” for nuclear arms in which the US would deploy nuclear weapons “without numerical constraints.”
read more
https://scottritter.substack.com/p/its-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know
with a protest note :
There will be an event dedicated to stopping this mad rush toward on September 28, in Kingston, New York. Gerald Celente is putting this together, along with a coalition of like-minded citizen patriots.
We hope to organize sister events in cities across the country. We want to put more than a million Americans into the streets that day, focused on one thing and one thing only—stop the madness of nuclear war.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 10:26 utc | 154

…there is a very high probability that this was a deliberate pinning act which Ukraine fell into in Kharkov region.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 22 2024 10:09 utc | 151

Micron claims that if Russia is not interested in conquering Ukie land, she should not comment on the names of liberated towns, I am trying to explain to him, that it is done so that peaceful people could draw circles on a map, calculating whether they are in the range of Ukie weapons.
As for Kharkov, and all the SMO, I am positive that everything that Russia does is very deliberate and calculated.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 10:35 utc | 156

Will the rest of the Donbass be freed by the end of this year? By the end of 2025? What is your guess?
Posted by: Ed4 | Jun 22 2024 10:42 utc | 156

Can you guess how long Biden will last? Can you guess how many wotes Dems would have to steal to fix the elections? Can you guess how many $billions more would be thrown into the Ukranian Black Hole?
There is no need to guess, it will happen, but the timing depends completeley on the USA’s volume of involvement.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 10:51 utc | 158

Posted by: Ed4 | Jun 22 2024 10:31 utc | 154
Nothing in there about states leaving NATO, just no forward deployment of weapons. You can have NATO without an offensive posture, since it’s a defensive alliance and all that.

Posted by: James M. | Jun 22 2024 11:02 utc | 160

Several of countries who joined since May 27, 1997, like Poland are adding substantially to their military forces,
Posted by: Ed4 | Jun 22 2024 10:31 utc | 154
PS My understanding of that clause is it is OK for Poland to increase it’s own military forces if it is only located on Polish territory.
The problem Russia has is where the UK, Germany, Canada, France US etc send and base their troops, missiles, aircraft, and armaments to Romania Poland Hungary Finland Baltics etc It is OK for Poland to buy and deploy defensive armaments to use on it’s own territory as well.
AS it is OK for Russia to do the same …. but Russia was saying it is NOT OK for it to locate nuclear arms on Belarus under such an security agreement it was proposing — which is why they have now deployed nukes in Belarus to show Poland Germany and the Baltic and the US what it is like to have NUKES deployed closer to their target cities.
See? I am fairly sure this was Russia’s intention, given what what was said in late 2021, expert comments and my own interpretation.
The next step will be locating Russian ground based nukes and nuke AD missiles in North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba and maybe eventually Jamaica Columbia and Brazil. If they get lucky, Mexico Iran Saudi Arabia and Malaysia will join them.
Anything you can do we can do better …. we can do anything better than you.
Now throw China India and Pakistan into that mix. The UNSC is essentially dead and buried, as is the US UK France Veto …. and Israel is the cherry on top.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 22 2024 11:11 utc | 162

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 10:51 utc | 157 “but the timing depends completeley on the USA’s volume of involvement.”
Even if Trump gets elected, given the amount of time he changes his mind, he may push to send money and weapons. Plus Congress may push him to even if he is not all for it. And Europe continues to send money and weapons. Now South Korea is talking about sending weapons.
My guess is that this will go on at least well into 2025.

Posted by: Ed4 | Jun 22 2024 11:34 utc | 164

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 22 2024 10:09 utc | 151
Simplicius’s summary of blue teamer Ben Rhodes’s suggestion that the US back off gives me hope. My guess is that Rhodes speaks for Obama. Remember: Obama didn’t have a very high opinion of Biden. Back in 2005 Biden along with Kerry, Dodd and Lieberman, were encouraged to vet/evaluate Obama as soon as he slipped into the Senate and began impressing people with his smile, medium brown skin and nice voice. He was a politician’s Ken doll and Biden liked him. Obama had to choose Biden for vp.
All these people are fakes: Hillary, Biden, Kamala… All are toxic and have next to zero public support except Obama so far. Obama does not like Joe and is probably worried that multiple disasters are coming.
Watch Obama. The puppet masters are working through him and his team.

Posted by: migueljose | Jun 22 2024 11:59 utc | 166

It is not a problem that Russia us afraid of NATO. The problem is that NATO is not afraid of Russia at all.
What is that wat drives Europe against Rusdia so hard and so blindly? A religios hate ir ideology or just a prospect if robbing Russua.

Posted by: vargas | Jun 22 2024 12:08 utc | 168

Barflies, a lot of the talk about Putin’s peace proposals is just nonsense based on the idea that he was an admirer of the west when he came to power. This is not the case, he was installed by a group that wanted to reverse the damage of Yeltsin’s coup, but understood that a restoration of Communist authority would be self-defeating in Russia’s seriously weakened condition. The entire arc of Putin’s career in power has been to make very reasonable proposals that HE KNOWS WILL BE REJECTED. In the meantime, he prepares for an existential confrontation with the West. EVERY TIME. The man is not an idiot, and there are no idiots on his core team. They understand the driving dynamics of global finance capitalism better than the capitalists do- certainly better than the ordinary citizens and public leaders of the west do. They know what the capitalists MUST DO on the grand strategic level, for their own survival, and they know what they have to do, step by step, to survive it. One big, big, fucking YUGE factor is time. Russia needed time, Putin bought time. Another is a global web of cooperation. Putin’s reasonable proposals are, and always have been, aimed at this. They show that Russia acts in good faith for win-win solutions, while the west lies, cheats and steal at every opportunity. It either will not agree respect the rights and interests of other countries, or it agrees to do so, all the while knowing that it will break its agreements. The world sees this. The world gravitates toward Russia. Putin’s latest peace proposal is just a reminder to the world of who wants peace and who wants war.
The proposal is made now because Putin sees clearly that the west will escalate where it can. He publicly puts the onus on the west- but he’s not backing down anywhere, he’s not shillyshallying. He’s making the final preparations for global thermonuclear war- and for what follows.
Would Putin abide by his proposal if the west accepted it? Yes. Would that be in Russia’s long term interests? On the face of it, no- but if the alternative is not having long term interests due to mutual assured destruction, it’s at least buying more time. The point is moot, however, because nobody on Putin’s team believed for a moment that the US and Britain, in particular, would agree to it.
Putin’s trip to DPRK and Vietnam constitutes a major threat to the US network of client states in East and Southeast Asia. Kim is now Putin’s rottweiler. If Putin takes his hand off the leash, somebody’s day gets ruined in ROK, Japan, Guam, the continental US, wherever it helps the most. Russian nuclear and missile technology now proliferates rapidly, first to DPRK, next to Iran via DPRK, and after that? Who knows? Venezuela? Niger? What if South Africa had an arsenal of anti-ship hypersonic missiles? Could they pull a Houthi on the alternative route to the Red Sea? Would they? With a couple of ICBMs of their own, why not? They’re no fans of western hegemony.
The point is that Russia has escalatory dominance in many, many different domains, geographically, politically and technologically. Western leaders seem to be in denial about this, Putin is showing them the truth, and his peace proposals are part of that escalation. To think of them within the narrow confines of the Ukraine theater of war is to miss their real significance.

Posted by: Honzo | Jun 22 2024 12:45 utc | 170

All available evidence… shows that Ukraine strongly resembles 1944 Germany and nothing NATO has done or will do will change that.
When the F-16 fails, as it will, the F-35 will enter the melee, according to Western style and precedence.
NATO is steadily playing all of its cards and letting Russia (and by extension China, Iran & North Korea) learn all about them and adjust accordingly, rendering each in turn ineffective. Simultaneously US & EU are steadily exhausting all of their existing weapon stocks with zero chance of replacing them in a timely manner.
I LMAO every time I hear that the West is hoping to outlast Russia. Reminds me of when you point out someone is losing money per every unit sold but then they say “we’ll make it up in volume”.
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QUESTION: If US & UK are such great supporters of Ukraine, why do they not have automatic tourist visas for Ukrainians? Is there perhaps some historical reason tied to screening out Nazis?

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 22 2024 12:49 utc | 172

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 22 2024 11:59 utc | 164
That was from @unimperator(84) but as far as I know it’s correct, smaller aircraft can carry the total weight but not on a single pylon. Agreed the rah-rah is unproductive, this glide kit for FAB-3000 was rumoured to be in development, now it’s here and does what it says on the tin, but it’s got its own costs by way of operational risk.
I can guarantee that Ukrainian / NATO planners are far happier to see this on the battlefield than UMPC with an optical seeker (even a cheap and cheerful implementation) that could put FAB-1500 (or handfuls of FAB-250) through a window under EW, and maybe a flight controller upgrade to achieve simultaneous timed impact of multiple glide bombs.
There are probably other upgrades and tweaks that have come up during large scale use of UMPC, that would enhance its overall effectiveness, UMPC FAB-3000 just doesn’t seem like a priority in the scheme of things and didn’t when it was first announced.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 22 2024 13:00 utc | 174

It would help greatly if I posted the link ..Duh!
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/06/10/using-ukraine-since-1948/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 22 2024 13:02 utc | 176

Posted by: Verdant | Jun 22 2024 13:04 utc | 176
Thanks for your own feedback.
I can’t find a definitive statement on the FAB-3000 carrier aircraft, do you have a source that confirms the Su-34 is able to do this rather than Tu-22?

Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 22 2024 13:18 utc | 178

I think of this more as a real life test, to see how the glide kit has to be adapted from the smaller bombs to provide the same effectiveness.
Yes, but it’s likely they have a boatload of these in storage so why not use them? That NAFO idiot David d. pointing out that Russia’s keeps deploying T-55’s yet ignores the fact that they’ve been consistently using them for short range defensive artillery. Safer than foxholes, mobile, and tons of available ammunition, they wreak havoc on troops & IFVs.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 22 2024 13:34 utc | 180

Was the Swiss conference used as a cover to finalize a counter offensive in the Kharkov and Zaporozhye regions with F16s and militaries from NATO states?
Posted by: Suresh | Jun 22 2024 4:16 utc | 119

Why would this matter and why the strange conspiratorial phrasing? Do you think serious analyst think Maerica has any plan at all?
Any such counter offensive would make as much difference as a man pissing into a tornado. And with what, a handful of NATO soldiers and a bucket full of ragtagged press ganged men against the hardened veterans of the Russian army? Delusion writ large. Hubris. Western ‘strategy’. But I repeat myself.
The delusional ideas that increasingly are put across should give an idea of just how fucked the West is.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 22 2024 13:36 utc | 182

Geezo Oh, Russian co-ordinated strikes in Ukraine last night did a terrible amount of damage to not just military hardware and personnel but to energy infrastructure.
https://ria.ru/20240622/minoborony-1954712712.html
It was such a huge co-ordinated strike that the Polish launched fighters over their own skies fearing the worst.
https://ria.ru/20240622/polsha-1954678769.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 22 2024 13:40 utc | 184

It’s not exactly that way. The explosive force delivered by two FAB 1500s is NOT equal to one FAB 3000. The concussive force of 1 FAB 3000 significantly outstrips 2 FAB 1500s in combination. You don’t have to exactly hit the mark with a bomb like the 3000 to kill any one in the concussion radius. Soft-tissue damage, in particular, to gas-filled organs, is lethal out to several hundred meters from the FAB 3000’s point of detonation. Even against protected positions, the FAB 3000 has a kill-diameter close to 500 yards.
Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | Jun 22 2024 13:34 utc | 180
And yet, Russia is still stuck in Vovchansk, Krasnogorovka, and countless other locations, while streams and streams of videos show their IFVs, troops and tanks getting wasted. It’s like watching a slight retard banging his head repeately against a wall.

Posted by: Micron | Jun 22 2024 13:41 utc | 186

As for Kharkov, and all the SMO, I am positive that everything that Russia does is very deliberate and calculated.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 22 2024 10:35 utc | 155
Of course ! For instance, leaving Shoigu and his corrupt clique of tribal thieves in charge for several years, and then hastily cleaning them out, was calculated. Also, all the attacks and retreats you see on the ground in the Ukraine are methodically calculated. As well as the bombings of Belgorod, Donetsk, and the drone strikes 1000 miles into Russian heartland. All part of the plan.
Actually what does start to look very deliberate and calculated is NATO’s strategy. Two years into the conflict they have managed to inject methodically more and more lethal weapons on the battlefield, while remaining insulated from Russia’s retaliation, and having been able to probe in depth all of Russia’s defenses. For instance, they now know that they can, with some basic drones, deliver payloads 1000 km into Russia proper with Russian defenses unable to do anything about it. Russian air defenses have been exposed as having more holes than a swiss cheese.
Russia, on the contrary, is hopping from one expedient to the other, going lately hat in hand to beg weapons from North Korea in exchange for an alliance. think about that for a minute. Russia treating North Korea almost as an equal. That should tell a lot about how low it has fallen.

Posted by: Micron | Jun 22 2024 13:47 utc | 188

Oh crikey, Anonymous is back.
How’s Berdichi doin’, buddy?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 22 2024 13:48 utc | 190

The more NAZO escalate their war goals toward strategic defeat of Russia, the more inevitable becomes the entry of China into the Ukraine war. I don’t understand why people think that this won’t happen. China’s military leadership has already stated publicly they are an ally of Russia in the war. If NAZO want to see 10 million Chinese troops converge on Ukraine and east Europe, they should just carry right on doing what they’re doing. This is going to be fun to watch.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jun 22 2024 13:57 utc | 192

Posted by: vargas | Jun 22 2024 12:08 utc | 167
No, the west/nato are very afraid of russia and the majority of the world, because the west is afraid of losing their illegimate hegemony.
If they were not afraid, they wouldve just let russia “take“ the ukraine. Aftee all, russia is just a gasstation with no missiles and soldiers that only have shovels. And no socks!

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 22 2024 13:59 utc | 194

Actually what does start to look very deliberate and calculated is NATO’s strategy.
ROFLMAO… NATO has never had a strategy. They just continue to throw shit against the wall to see if anything sticks.
The increasingly rare successful strikes are the exceptions that prove the rule… pure propaganda victories for the West that desperately needs to keep it’s narratives alive. Notice how NAFOs got all excited about the large shipment of ATACMS proclaiming the imminent demise of the Kerch Bridge? Yeah, ATACMS mostly gone, bridge still standing, and now the talk is back to F-16’s.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 22 2024 14:07 utc | 196

Background info, machine translation doesn’t do it justice but still fascinating. Shame the video doesn’t have a text transcript that could be translated.
https://t.me/UAVDEV/6554

There, Antonov released an analysis of Hodor’s interview, for those who haven’t watched.
On the one hand, it has nothing to do with the topic of this channel. Well, there were local denominations of the American business that captured the wreckage of the USSR, anyone with a brain already understood this.
But something else is important here.
Having come to power, our Caesar found himself in a shrinking ring of friends and maneuvered for a long time and painfully, making way for one or another initiative. Sometimes we had to make bad decisions. Sometimes they didn’t put the best people in, and sometimes they managed to put them there.
In the heads of the rogues, our Caesar is a god who wrote with his finger “to do good to everyone” and the entire retinue rushed to do it.
It doesn’t work that way.
It never works like that anywhere.
You always have to take into account the environment and its interests.
And it takes years to form an environment.
I remember how new laboratory equipment was brought to our university for the first time in 10 years, how Mil Design Bureau and a number of other military-industrial enterprises were bought from Boeing. How they began to build roads and bridges, renovate schools and hospitals.
Of course, I would like tank repair factories not to be sawed into metal right during the SVO, and saboteur officials to be tortured on the rack in the nearest school yard.
But it doesn’t work that way, everything takes time. And little by little everything is done.
Drones are being made, self-propelled guns are being made, payment systems and new commodity routes are being made.
Well, our cross is this: meet all troubles with moral and strong-willedness and push through them until the rear is rebuilt.
But if they had not started to disperse this viper back then, through imprisonment and suicide on a scarf, then we would now be Argentina/Khokhols, with a nominal clown in power and a permanent F in the economy, without sovereignty and a chance to get out.
I wonder why Arakhamia, Khodor and the smaller mongrels started talking right now?.. Resentment towards the owner is too simple an explanation.
Re-uploading video and audio in comments 👇

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIJv7e5sGkg

965,766 views 28 May 2024 #Khodorkovsky #Antonov #Dud
We watch Khodorkovsky at Dudya and decide whose side we are on. The choice is not easy, the conversation is interesting, and the 90s seem to be right before your eyes. How will we evaluate Mikhail’s life path?
A new video about all this.
Full version of the interview on the Dudya channel:
• Khodorkovsky – the nineties and “Traitor…
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:10 Parsley on the Rothschilds’ hand
03:34 Working with the past
36:39 KGB and corruption
01:07:03 Interesting acquaintances
01:11:11 Whose side was Khodorkovsky on in 1991?
01:37:07 What is corruption
01:50:24 Khodorkovsky and the war in Chechnya
02:04:08 Khodorkovsky versus Zyuganov
02:34:17 Dud in a white coat
02:44:24 Loans auctions
02:54:38 Khodorkovsky argues with commentators
03:22:51 How should we perceive the film “Traitors”?
03:41:45 Khodorkovsky’s socks
03:44:18 Why did Khodorkovsky support Prigozhin’s rebellion?
04:06:35 Plan for the release of Navalny
04:13:52 About Abramovich
04:19:31 Dud counts Khodorkovsky’s money
04:29:08 Foreign passports of Russian migrants
04:35:11 What is the strength?
04:35:55 ​​Conclusions
Yuri Dud – foreign agent
Mikhail Khodorkovsky – foreign agent
Maria Pevchikh – foreign agent
Alexei Navalny – foreign agent (dead)
Leonid Nevzlin – foreign agent
Maxim Kats – foreign agent
Dmitry Gordon – foreign agent
Pyotr Verzilov – foreign agent
Mikhail Zygar – foreign agent
Leonid Volkov – foreign agent
Georgy Alburov – foreign agent
Oleg Tinkov – foreign agent
Garry Kasparov – foreign agent
FBK – NGO-foreign agent and extremist organization
LGBT is an extremist movement
The Khodorkovsky Foundation is an undesirable organization
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Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 22 2024 14:15 utc | 198

It doesnt do you favour when you descend into one sided propaganda. It has the feeling of a man desperately asserting ..for their own sanity.. their worldview. Another NAFO barking clown dog.
For example Russian air defense is the best in the world. Calling it Swiss cheese just exposes you as a childish ideologue and shows your pseudointellectual arguments merest sophistry. Go away.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 22 2024 14:17 utc | 200