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June 27, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-152
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Have we witnessed the first early shots of an upcoming Israeli Civil War?
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/the-collapse-of-zionism Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 13:21 utc | 1 I heard this quote recently from a lecture on human behavior and thought of Israel: Posted by: Vortex | Jun 27 2024 13:41 utc | 2 Excellent background info for those who may not know…and the gameplan Palestine’s occupiers adopted, adapted and ‘improved’ through pure evil and US/UK backing. Posted by: motorslug | Jun 27 2024 13:52 utc | 3 meanwhile back at the genocide ranch Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 27 2024 13:55 utc | 4 https://sputnikglobe.com/20240627/retired-idf-general-says-gaza-war-lost-its-purpose-and-cautions-against-hezbollah-escalation-1119146522.html Posted by: motorslug | Jun 27 2024 13:59 utc | 5 The ruling coalition is succeeding at their goals Posted by: Polli | Jun 27 2024 14:12 utc | 6 There is soon some elections in France and abroad , french “8th circumscription of french living outside France” have now mostly Israeli candidates … despite representing French nationals living in : Italy, Malta, San-Marin, Vatican City, Cyprus, Greece, Turkey, Israël, Jerusalem & Palestinians territories. Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 27 2024 14:21 utc | 7 The question is when Israel’s industries and infrastructure and energy distribution and water filtration comes under missile attack, wither the Maericans? Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 27 2024 14:31 utc | 8 Doctor Eleven@8….when? when? when? Seriously? Day late dollar short, even the RF MOD can’t find the main power switch in 404…..yet Hamas Hizbollah will bring The Apartheid State to its knees just like that. Waiting with baited breath. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 27 2024 14:49 utc | 9 @1 Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 15:02 utc | 10 The fact all of this is counterproductive to their interests apparently doesn’t bother anyone, or more likely, thyere too fucking stupid to realize it. The political and military officer class in the West only know which side their bread is buttered. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 27 2024 15:12 utc | 11 “The merger of American and Israeli militarism is now more comprehensive than ever. Both are driven by extreme nationalism, war profiteering, and ethnocentric bigotry. Nonviolent unyielding resistance is not futile. It is essential.” Posted by: hightrekker | Jun 27 2024 15:47 utc | 12 #1 The first part had good parts to chew on. One aspect of the fracture that could cleave israeli politics is how strongly would the Ashkenazic Jews engage against the settler factions? I would hazard more flight than fight. Posted by: paxmark1 | Jun 27 2024 16:06 utc | 13 Bolivia cuts ties with Gaza over Genocide Bolivia cuts ties with Gaza over Genocide Posted by: malenkov | Jun 27 2024 16:17 utc | 15 How long can the US sustain this. The current coup in Bolivia, the crap in Armenia and Georgia. Ukraine , isreal , Taiwan,phillipines, I could go on but surely the CIA cannot Keep this sustained operations up. They have also to keep their proxies in check in the EU. I cannot imagine how many people and think tanks are involved. Can this be sustainable for much longer ? Posted by: Scot1and | Jun 27 2024 16:31 utc | 16 Round up of Lebanese border military activity Posted by: Exile | Jun 27 2024 16:34 utc | 17 I tired soon over trying to establish who knew how much when on the israeli side for Oct. 7. 1. Sexism – many of the analysts closest to the data were female. 2.Mid level officers cognitive bias against Palestinians and especially Gazans having the logistics and knowledge to enact a plan. 3. Upper level government is less analytical, they are political animals. Takes a lot to change them. 4. Many times the left hand does not know what the right hand knows. Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 16:36 utc | 18 “The Incompetence Doctrine is assisted by a Warren Commission or September 11th Commission. Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 16:41 utc | 19 Excellent background info for those who may not know…and the gameplan Palestine’s occupiers adopted, adapted and ‘improved’ through pure evil and US/UK backing. Posted by: swiss | Jun 27 2024 16:46 utc | 20 Supposedly Houthis fired a hypersonic missile and hit a container ship. I think people confuse supersonic with hypersonic, but maybe this was the actual statement by Ansar Allah, so who knows. If true using a hypersonic missile on a cargo ship seems expensive and wasteful unless it was a test/target practice, or maybe they have them to spare. But if all of this is true, seems more like a message to the Prosperity Guardian crowd, maybe it’s a Russian message delivering on Putin’s promise. That was fast. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 27 2024 16:49 utc | 21 “give terrorists visas and flying lessons to knock down three skyscrapers with only two planes…” – librul Posted by: motorslug | Jun 27 2024 16:54 utc | 22 @Posted by: swiss | Jun 27 2024 16:46 utc | 20 Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 17:07 utc | 23 @Posted by: motorslug | Jun 27 2024 16:54 utc | 22 Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 17:11 utc | 24 Haha….I think that was taken in the late 80s/early 90s Posted by: motorslug | Jun 27 2024 17:21 utc | 25 @16 Posted by: Ornot | Jun 27 2024 17:22 utc | 26 Posted by: motorslug | Jun 27 2024 18:16 utc | 27 Yemeni Navy claims another strike on Haifa Posted by: Exile | Jun 27 2024 18:56 utc | 28 Well for the record, Col. Macgregor in his latest Judge Nap video has come out in support of US military intervention if the existance of the apartheid state is threatened. Presumably, he means its existance as a Jewish state. I guess he feels he can be an Israel Firster and a US Patriot at the same time. The Col. has an interesting concept of the word Patriot methinks. Posted by: Ralph Conner | Jun 27 2024 20:56 utc | 29 Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) on H.R. 8771 to suppress the death-toll in Gaza, which just passed the U.S. House of Reptiles overwhelmingly: 269-144.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/06/27/us-house-votes-to-suppress-gaza-death-toll/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 27 2024 20:59 utc | 30 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 27 2024 14:49 utc | 9 Posted by: Jane | Jun 27 2024 22:06 utc | 31 I have issue with several parts of the article. Not feeling the energy to get too deep in analysis . . . Posted by: Jane | Jun 27 2024 22:28 utc | 32 Anybody know whatever happened to the whole Red Heifer thing? Posted by: teri | Jun 27 2024 22:30 utc | 33 Anybody know whatever happened to the whole Red Heifer thing? Posted by: Jane | Jun 27 2024 22:32 utc | 34 Ahenobarbus@11 “True enough, but what if Zionists actually run the US government, media, courts, education system? From that perspective they could argue that ruining the US for the benefit of a bloodthirsty backward religious cult to which they are affiliated in the middle east is perfectly in line with their interests.” Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 27 2024 23:41 utc | 35 @ 35.
Since this is a Palestine thread, it is worth mentioning the Ramallah Friends School, founded in 1869. Posted by: Jane | Jun 28 2024 2:03 utc | 36 As for the people running the US government, media, courts, education system, yes most of them are indeed affiliated to a bloodthirsty backward religious cult, namely, Christianity. Christian Zionists believe God gave the Jews the Holy Land and their Return is part of the divinely ordained plan. Some of them eagerly anticipate them being sent to Hell after the Second Coming. “Religion” is legally, politically and socially advantaged, so even those whose only God is Mammon capitulate to the others. Attacking Jews but not Christians is not a good look. Even worse, the real targets should be imperialists. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 28 2024 2:25 utc | 37 Ahenobarbus@37 But what if your mother was a whore with syphilis so you were born with a damaged brain? Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 28 2024 3:03 utc | 38 Cross -over thread Posted by: Suresh | Jun 28 2024 4:06 utc | 39 Apparently many journalists confuse supersonic with hypersonic. Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2024 4:22 utc | 40 Gruff is not the CIA agent, he’s just a Langley computer Bot. So is canuck but of the v4.73 foul mouthed package. And no decent Yahweh fearing Jew would name their son Steven btw. Gosh. Shudder. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 28 2024 4:52 utc | 41 ZH has a posting up with the title
Its almost show time, eh? Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 28 2024 5:39 utc | 42 @42 Posted by: golddigger | Jun 28 2024 6:04 utc | 43 Round up of Resistance Activities from Thursday Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2024 9:57 utc | 44 “There’s no place like someone else’s home.” Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 28 2024 10:07 utc | 45 /thrash metal plays Posted by: titmouse | Jun 28 2024 12:45 utc | 46 Came across this (don’t read on a full stomach).
Posted by: librul | Jun 28 2024 15:42 utc | 47 19:20 Al-Quds Brigades declares bombing ‘Sderot’ and the settlements surrounding the Gaza Strip with a missile barrage Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2024 16:37 utc | 48 steven t johnson 35 Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2024 18:35 utc | 49 Giyane, Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2024 19:37 utc | 50 Giyane@49 “It’s the job of the Jews to invert the development of human spirituality by injecting backward thinking into every cult. This is centuries old tradition to prevent any other religious perception from overtaking their own 6000 year old cult based on the Talmud.” Don’t know where Exile @50 got the dates, the Palestinian or Jerusalem Talmud was put together (it’s a collection of legal opinions for one thing, so the usual word is “redacted,”) circa 400AD. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 28 2024 21:06 utc | 51 No difference between Biden, Trump or RFKjr on Israel:
So the genocide continues. Or are these for Hezbollah? Posted by: upstater | Jun 28 2024 21:57 utc | 52 upstater | Jun 28 2024 21:57 utc | 52 Posted by: upstater | Jun 28 2024 22:06 utc | 53
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/06/28/the-israeli-media-company-haaretz-reports-that-official-documents-reveal-that-israel-had-prior-knowledge-of-the-october-7-hamas-attack/ https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1806748781884670027?t=Ro4loSqky9CZ38zGAttjbA&s=19 Posted by: Hankster | Jun 28 2024 23:50 utc | 55 This article in the original Hebrew is quite interesting and different from the English version likewise posted by Haaretz. The author is the world famous Israeli historian Benny Morris, but only in the Hebrew version of his editorial does Morris call for a preemptive nuclear strike against Iranian “civilian” nuclear infrastructure *now* or in the near future, lest Iran develop nuclear weapons of its own, by which time the Israeli/Zionist project would be doomed. Posted by: LudovicM | Jun 29 2024 0:15 utc | 56 Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 28 2024 23:30 utc | 54
All of that is a bullshit disinfo false interpretations and distorted crap, written by an incompetent / moron who does not have a clue about the topic at all. It’s click bait bs, or just everyday bs, doesn’t matter, it is garbage from an unprofessional bad faith dishonest and dysfunctional website. (even if sometimes they do have real info the swill drowns it out most of the time.) Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 29 2024 0:17 utc | 57
“They’re so Vain, they probably think the CIA Bot is out to get them, to get them, to get them.” Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 29 2024 1:02 utc | 58 https://x.com/nxt888/status/1806392457942503549?t=dsy5FFXlJj116zd1UopzAg&s=19 Posted by: Hankster | Jun 29 2024 1:46 utc | 59 Supply weapons ? Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2024 4:09 utc | 60 there is no end to the gross injustice and genocide/war crimes by the israeli zionists and their allies. Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 29 2024 5:50 utc | 61 …….BREAKING: Israeli Minister of Finance, Batil Smudrich, has announced that Israel will establish a new West Bank settlement for each country that recognises Palestine…….. Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2024 6:06 utc | 62 Friday, June 28, 8:00 pm (GMT+2) Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2024 7:30 utc | 63 Over 200 Palestinians displaced from Gaza have been given apartments in a newly built neighborhood of Grozny, the capital of Russia’s Muslim-majority Chechen Republic, regional leader Ramzan Kadyrov has announced. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jun 29 2024 8:15 utc | 64 “Our immediate plans include the creation of a Palestinian community in the Chechen Republic so that refugees can preserve their national identity,” Kadyrov added. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 29 2024 11:50 utc | 65 “Our immediate plans include the creation of a Palestinian community in the Chechen Republic so that refugees can preserve their national identity,” Kadyrov added. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 29 2024 11:50 utc | 66 ☀️👀 Posted by: Menz | Jun 29 2024 12:49 utc | 67 Suppressed News. Posted by: Menz | Jun 29 2024 12:51 utc | 68 Ironclad Posted by: Menz | Jun 29 2024 12:57 utc | 69 PALESTINE ONLINE 🇵🇸 Posted by: Menz | Jun 29 2024 13:01 utc | 70 Post Posted by: Menz | Jun 29 2024 13:03 utc | 71 This one is funny!
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-12-07/ty-article/.premium/israel-completes-vast-billion-dollar-gaza-barrier/0000017f-ee2c-d4cd-af7f-ef7c25d40000
Come on! No Boob Tube intelligence officer available? Posted by: librul | Jun 29 2024 13:12 utc | 73 Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis Posted by: Menz | Jun 29 2024 13:31 utc | 74 Librul, Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2024 13:36 utc | 75 Question – if your strategy is it’s better to be feared, than loved
Posted by: librul | Jun 29 2024 14:37 utc | 76 …ISRAELI MILITARY COMMANDER: The commander of the 12th Israeli Brigade said that dismantling Hamas in Rafah will take at least another two years. Anyone who thinks the sirens will stop next year is throwing sand in the public’s eyes….. Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2024 14:39 utc | 77 (edit) Posted by: librul | Jun 29 2024 14:46 utc | 78 @Posted by: librul | Jun 27 2024 13:21 utc | 1 Posted by: librul | Jun 29 2024 15:00 utc | 79 @Posted by: librul | Jun 29 2024 15:00 utc | 79 Posted by: librul | Jun 29 2024 15:12 utc | 80 Hezbollah claims another destroyed Merkava (daily SITREP ) Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2024 20:16 utc | 81 morocco is run by scoundrels Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 29 2024 20:46 utc | 82 fyi, Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 29 2024 21:12 utc | 83 ZH has aposting up with the title
Can barflies see over the edge yet? Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 29 2024 22:23 utc | 84 “An unusual statement by one of the most senior Israeli security leaders, Yair Katz, Chairman of the Council of Workers in the Aerospace Industry, which, according to foreign sources, produces the Jericho missiles that carry nuclear weapons. Posted by: Ornot | Jun 30 2024 0:40 utc | 85 “A picture from Gaza – Al-Shuja’iya – in 1993 Posted by: Ornot | Jun 30 2024 0:53 utc | 86 Congressman Massie wrote on X that his wife has passed away. He did not mention the cause and has photos of his wife, himself and grandson on vacation a month ago Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | Jun 30 2024 2:42 utc | 87 Congressman Massie wrote on X that his wife has passed away. He did not mention the cause and has photos of his wife, himself and grandson on vacation a month ago Posted by: Walt | Jun 30 2024 4:50 utc | 88 Globe Eye News Posted by: Menz | Jun 30 2024 7:38 utc | 89 there is actually a video of Ben Gvir at this link saying these things Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 30 2024 8:40 utc | 90 Former head of Shin Bet: “Netanyahu doesn’t want to end the war in Gaza” Posted by: WMG | Jun 30 2024 10:17 utc | 91 ICC Decision on Arrest Warrants For Israeli Officials Delayed By UK Posted by: Menz | Jun 30 2024 10:27 utc | 92 ….. The Oslo Accords stipulated that the Palestinian Authority has no criminal jurisdiction over Israelis. Since the Palestinian Authority requested that the ICC open an investigation, Israel argues that it violated the agreement…….. Posted by: Exile | Jun 30 2024 11:05 utc | 93 Posted by: Exile | Jun 30 2024 11:05 utc | 93 Posted by: Menz | Jun 30 2024 11:57 utc | 94 @ michaelj72 | Jun 30 2024 8:40 utc | 90 Posted by: teri | Jun 30 2024 12:26 utc | 95 michaelj72 | Jun 30 2024 8:40 utc | 90 Posted by: Hankster | Jun 30 2024 12:31 utc | 96 steven t johnson 51 Posted by: Giyane | Jun 30 2024 17:23 utc | 97 A tank or two here or there does not a win make. The Apartheid State wields a free hand across the middle east. Still bombing here there and everywhere, at will, and with the support of many of the world major governments, regardless of how their citizens feel or protest. With civil infrastructure untouched and humming along, Palestinians are still dying by the front end loader bucket full. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 1 2024 13:15 utc | 98 |
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