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May 3, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Niu-York Cauldron – Sumi Diversion – Supplying Crimea

A current look at the map in the east of Ukraine:

April 03, 2024

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The above maps are of the eastern front in Ukraine on April 3 and May 3. Opening them side by side one can see two significant moves by Russian forces. In the north the forces are moving west towards Chasiv Yar which is a high ground controlling anything further west of it.

On the southern part of the map, north of Avdiivka, the Russian forces have taken Ocheretyne and Keramik.

Both movements together let one anticipate a larger two pronged plan:

  • From Chasiv Yar a move west roughly along the H32 road towards Konstantynivka.
  • From Keramik a move north roughly along the H-20 road.

This would form a pincer which would envelope the large mining conglomerate around Niu-York, west of Horlivka. The area has been on the frontline since 2014. It is thus heavily fortified. Surrounding it is much more convenient and less bloody than storming it outright.

The Economist had a talk (archived) with Vadym Skibitsky, the deputy head of Ukraine’s military intelligence.

He seems to have already given up on Chasiv Yar:

Ukraine’s immediate concern is its high-ground stronghold in the town of Chasiv Yar, which holds the keys to an onward Russian advance to the last large cities in the Donetsk region (see map). It is probably a matter of time before that city falls in a similar way to Avdiivka, bombed to oblivion by the Russians in February, says the general. “Not today or tomorrow, of course, but all depending on our reserves and supplies.”

Russia has already won a tactical success in the south-west in the village of Ocheretyne, where a recent Ukrainian troop rotation was bungled. Russian forces succeeded in breaking through a first line of defence and have created a salient 25 square kilometres in size. Ukraine is some way from stabilising the situation, while Russia is throwing “everything” it has to achieve a bigger gain. The Russian army is not the hubristic organisation it was in 2022, says the general, and is now operating as a “single body, with a clear plan, and under a single command”.

Mr. Skibitsky is in a generally gloomy mood:

General Skibitsky says he does not see a way for Ukraine to win the war on the battlefield alone. Even if it were able to push Russian forces back to the borders—an increasingly distant prospect—it wouldn’t end the war. Such wars can only end with treaties, he says.

It is good to finally see some realism reaching Kiev.

Some Russian forces are ready to (again) enter Ukraine from the north to threaten the cities of Sumy and Kharkiv. I see this as a diversion attempt, not as a serious operation to take those cities. It is binding Ukrainian forces in the north while the eastern frontlines are too thinly occupied to hold off further attacks.

One fixation of the Ukrainian side has been the Kerch bridge which connects the larger Russia with Crimea. It was hoped that any destruction of the bridge would hamper the Russian logistics. But a map of the new railway tracks Russia has build on the northern side of the Sea of Asov shows that there are now several redundant ways to supply Crimea. A destruction of the Kerch bridge now would be a just-for-show moment without any significant consequences for the Russian positions.


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Posted by: Naive | May 3 2024 21:48 utc | 99
For instance:
Was ist gut? — Alles, was das Gefühl der Macht, den Willen zur Macht, die Macht selbst im Menschen erhöht.
Was ist schlecht? — Alles, was aus der Schwäche stammt.
Was ist Glück? — Das Gefühl davon, dass die Macht wächst, dass ein Widerstand überwunden wird.
Nicht Zufriedenheit, sondern mehr Macht; nicht Friede überhaupt, sondern Krieg; nicht Tugend, sondern Tüchtigkeit (Tugend im Renaissance-Stile, virtù, moralinfreie Tugend)
Die Schwachen und Missrathnen sollen zu Grunde gehn: erster Satz unsrer Menschenliebe. Und man soll ihnen noch dazu helfen.
Was ist schädlicher als irgend ein Laster? — Das Mitleiden der That mit allen Missrathnen und Schwachen — (…)

Posted by: Naive | May 3 2024 21:51 utc | 101

And one more:
Moral für Ärzte. — Der Kranke ist ein Parasit der Gesellschaft. In einem gewissen Zustande ist es unanständig, noch länger zu leben. Das Fortvegetiren in feiger Abhängigkeit von Ärzten und Praktiken, nachdem der Sinn vom Leben, das Recht zum Leben verloren gegangen ist, sollte bei der Gesellschaft eine tiefe Verachtung nach sich ziehn. Die Ärzte wiederum hätten die Vermittler dieser Verachtung zu sein, — nicht Recepte, sondern jeden Tag eine neue Dosis Ekel vor ihrem Patienten… Eine neue Verantwortlichkeit schaffen, die des Arztes, für alle Fälle, wo das höchste Interesse des Lebens, des aufsteigenden Lebens, das rücksichtsloseste Nieder- und Beiseite-Drängen des entartenden Lebens verlangt — zum Beispiel für das Recht auf Zeugung, für das Recht, geboren zu werden, für das Recht, zu leben… Auf eine stolze Art sterben, wenn es nicht mehr möglich ist, auf eine stolze Art zu leben. Der Tod, aus freien Stücken gewählt, der Tod zur rechten Zeit, mit Helle und Freudigkeit, inmitten von Kindern und Zeugen vollzogen: so dass ein wirkliches Abschiednehmen noch möglich ist, wo Der noch da ist, der sich verabschiedet, insgleichen ein wirkliches Abschätzen des Erreichten und Gewollten, eine Summirung des Lebens (…)

Posted by: Naive | May 3 2024 21:56 utc | 102

This was just too funny. And we all need a laugh…
Medvedev suggests June Switzerland meet, an “opportunity” as all these Nation States will be too busy to “interfere”, glad they’ll be out of the way…
Swiss conference to be showcase for Zelensky’s failed peace plan — Medvedev
“It will allow our armed forces to continue cleaning the territory of Novorossiya from neo-Nazis without interference and without looking back at someone’s moronic ‘peace initiatives,’ and all of us – to carry out meticulous work on the speedy return of our ancestral territories to Russia,” Dmitry Medvedev pointed out

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 3 2024 22:29 utc | 103

JRL (92). Wow…great attrition. How come it hasn’t affected Ukrainian ability to hold territory?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 22:45 utc | 104

@87 anonymous
Re: muh territory
Your still missing the point about territory. Victory isn’t about getting it quickly and as much as possible.
Russia isn’t fighting just ukraine of course, by that yard stick Russia would have to occupy Paris to win.
So, how is victory defined? What is the war about? Why are the parties fighting it? What are their goals? How does one conquer the territory and hold it for the long term? What’s the price each party will pay for victory? When is it too much?
This situation is far more complex and far reaching than lines on a map.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 3 2024 22:48 utc | 105

Josef Schweik | May 3 2024 21:45 utc | 97
>…MoD list = which Ukrainians are considered fit for military service.
– pregnant women and women who have given birth , if pregnancy and the postpartum period proceed without complications.
So that *really do mean* to the Last Ukrainian
One cannot even sleep safe in the womb.
Evil. Evil of a magnitude that on reading raised my blood pressure and made me really bloody angry.
I long ago ached seeing a first person GoPro.. a transport of 20-something males, young, healthy, handsome, goofing for the camera as if they were off to play footy in the neighbouring town. Minutes later they were dead. I am not ashamed to say I cried as i ached for the loss of those lads.
I long ago began avoiding the warporn gore. I can no longer watch panning shots of Ukrainian cemeteries.
But now to know pregnant women are to be fed to the war machine.
Reading this has really disturbed me.
What can I do.? Nothing. but go walk the dog … it’s my therapy.
Anonymous. This ^ is what attrition looks like, you stupid fucking arsehole bastard.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 3 2024 22:49 utc | 106

RE: “The pompous ass ill-educated Eton-bastard Cameron, has said in Sky News earlier today***: “I don’t think it is right to have NATO soldiers killing Russian soldiers,”What makes this moron think that Russia won’t oblitarate instead all those obesse self-inflicted LGTBQ+ neo-NAZI nato soldiers long before they hit any Russian soldier?”
Posted by: AI | May 3 2024 18:55 utc | 71
The real moral equivalency:
“I don’t think it’s right…. yet…
It’s ok for *NATO weapons to kill Russian soldiers*.
This is the core of Colonialism.
They believe their warped, delusional moral equivalency… because at root.. their cowards.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 3 2024 22:49 utc | 107

Actually, I’m rather enjoying watching Macron making the EU/UK & US squirm around and double speak…
“Commenting on the words of French President Emmanuel Macron, who earlier reiterated that he could not rule out such a development of events, Cameron said: “I wouldn’t have NATO soldiers in the country because I think that could be a dangerous escalation. And it’s not necessary. We have trained, I think now, almost 60,000 Ukrainian soldiers.” “I don’t think it is right to have NATO soldiers killing Russian soldiers,” he added.“
He panicked and suggests that there are at least 60,000 more Ukrainians that can die still, no need for NATO…

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 3 2024 22:59 utc | 108

How come it hasn’t affected Ukrainian ability to hold territory?
Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 22:45 utc | 103
They seem to be losing territory at the moment.

Posted by: James M. | May 3 2024 23:09 utc | 109

Those f FPV drones are the real game changer. They have for the moment prevented RF to progress further and quicker and they have even make them withdraw in Terny. No need to have expensive hypersonic missiles to win a war. Just an operator with dozens of these drones can destroy a compagny and a lot of military material. Despite all muthering chatter, ukrops keeps supremacy in drones.
So what to do with this problem without any science fiction solutions ? Anyone here to help General Staff of RF, since they seem unable to find a solution ?

Posted by: America is defeated | May 3 2024 23:14 utc | 110

Calling yourself Napolean while having the military acumen of your average Call of Duty player is the hubris I associate with the West alright. Tell yourself whatever fantasies you need to in order to provide the reassurance you seem to sincerely need, but don’t be surprised when learned people call your ideas foolish and your bias obvious.
You and as they say, your fellow travellers, should try this thing where you analyze a situation without imposing your feelings. You might find it helps you better assess what’s real and what’s imbecilic projection.
The West has suffered a strategic loss, one deepening by the day as they refuse to staunch the bleeding. Too painful to admit they fucked up and yet too painful to keep going. The Russian economy not only survives but thrives under the sanctions and Russian arms appear qualitatively superior to Western counterparts..where they even exist. Hypersonics? Photonic radars? A real catch 22! Spiralling polycrises that reinforce one another … a failure cascade.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 3 2024 23:22 utc | 111

Posted by: James M. | May 3 2024 23:09 utc | 108
They lost .01% territory in March. Muh stalemate is winning!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 23:24 utc | 112

They lost .01% territory in March. Muh stalemate is winning!
Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 23:24 utc | 111
You keep repeating that number as if it were meaningful. I’m just curious how you calculated that, given that the Donbas region is 53,200 square kilometers?

Posted by: James M. | May 3 2024 23:39 utc | 113

They lost .01% territory in March. Muh stalemate is winning!
Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 23:24 utc | 111
Its fifth gen warfare, not war of attrition.

Posted by: UWDude | May 3 2024 23:47 utc | 114

Anonymous | May 3 2024 18:17 utc | 64
(In vain you waste your time and your pc’s electrons!)
‘… needs to be renamed to death by a thousand years.’
This is called ‘a sophisma’, written by a sophist’s apprentice, like ‘you are not going to persuade me, even if you persuade me.’
The talk of the town are the numbers of dead ukrainian soldiers and of destroyed western weapons, but you change the subject to liberated territory, its number of square inches and to the span of the war’s time.
The purposes of the smo are liberation of Novorossiya, denazification and demilitarisation, not the liberation of the whole land, (biggest in Europe, bigger than France), or the short (how short is ‘short’?) time it should take to do it.
When there will be no more defenders, no more arms and NO WILL to defend the land, then there will be no need to take the fight to the frontiers with Poland and Romania.
You will already have won by fighting only in Donbass, amid plenty of (russian) time.
This time on ‘when/then’ gets nearer and nearer every day and all the laws of your beloved sophistry can not deny the unavoidable reality, cannot thwart the rushing ukrainian/western defeat.
Just you wait a little more, your ‘end of the thousand years’ is around the corner…
Wait for it in front of your pc and, please, post an Anonymous comment here, when the Treaty of Kiev will be signed.
Do not worry, I assure you, it will happen during your lifetime.
I strongly believe that you are a member of the Famous Dr.Sparks/Kouroi/Kouros/Callas/D.Collins Sophist Family.
If Orthodox Christian, have a Happy Orthodox Easter, my friend !

Posted by: ΚΓΨ | May 3 2024 23:52 utc | 115

Posted by: William Gruff | May 3 2024 16:40 utc | 51
Slightly OT: I’m guessing when a nation ceases to exist politically it also ceases to exist as an economic agent? What happened to German national debt in May 1945?

Posted by: Patroklos | May 3 2024 23:57 utc | 116

If the Muh Attrition crowd is serious. They must concede the winner of Putin’s Vietnam is America and NATO, as they watch Russia fight on a static front against their fellow slavic brothers — it’s almost like pay-per-view boxing.
Posted by: Napoleon | May 3 2024 19:15 utc | 73
Russia can keep this going for 20 more years.
NATO for five more.
Ukraine for three.
There is no “winner” to this war, until it is over. Until then you are just guessing the future.
Only in NATO fantasies is The Ukraine war like the Vietnam War.
Americans were always obvious foreigners in their wars post world war II. That’s why insurgencies and guerilla tactics worked so well against them. Is not, and will not happen in Ukraine.
I don’t care how much “Ukrainians hate Russians”, because it simply isnt true. Some fanatical Ukrainians hate Russians, but under Russian boot heel, and surrounded by Russian collaborators, they’ll cow, snivel, bitch and flee, but they wont fight.
NATO for

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 0:19 utc | 118

Re: Posted by: psychohistorian | May 3 2024 19:58 utc | 82

The shit show continues until it doesn’t and my prognostication is Ukraine surrenders before August but I think much sooner, like before May 20 when Z loses legal agency in Ukraine…..I was hoping for Orthodox Easter but that may be too soon yet.
I want to be correct to see lives saved, not because I want to be right.

NO!!
I don’t know how many times I have to tell you this, but distantly I have to do so again.
THERE IS ZERO CHANCE THIS CONFLICT CAN END IN 2024
You clearly STILL do not understand the nature of this conflict.
UKRAINE HAS NO AGENCY IN THIS CONFLICT
Ukraine can’t surrender and end this conflict.
This conflict is dictated out of Washington, London & Brussels.
This conflict can’t end until (At the ABSOLUTE EARLIEST) in late January 2025 with a new US President.
If Biden is re-elected this conflict WILL CONTINUE INDEFINITELY – and may escalate .

Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 0:25 utc | 119

Very slim chance this ends before 2025.
Elections, American or otherwise have fuck all to do with anything.
I would guess there is still 5 years before Russia wins outright.
If it comes to WW III, it could likely not end for 20 years.
However, I have no doubt, be it tomorrow or 20 years from now, NATO will lose.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 0:33 utc | 120

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 10:55 utc | 14
Once again you demonstrate your particularly narrow-minded view of the the concept of attrition.
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Posted by: ΚΓΨ | May 3 2024 13:23 utc | 28
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | May 3 2024 17:25 utc | 55
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Territorial gains only.
An idee fixe is beyond reason. Why bother with reasoning and facts? No response saves the space for something more useful. There are many good contributors here.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 4 2024 0:37 utc | 121

Posted by: William Gruff | May 3 2024 16:40 utc | 51
Slightly OT: I’m guessing when a nation ceases to exist politically it also ceases to exist as an economic agent? What happened to German national debt in May 1945?
Posted by: Patroklos | May 3 2024 23:57 utc | 115
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The national debt ceased with the end of the Third Reich. The new German government got lots of aid. That was forgiven with the London Agreement of 1954. When the Greeks brought up that little gem with their German masters requesting some debt forgiveness, the Germans ignored them. Greece would have been better off without the Euro and the EU.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 4 2024 0:43 utc | 122

If Biden is re-elected this conflict WILL CONTINUE INDEFINITELY – and may escalate .
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 0:25 utc | 118
I agree that psychohistorian’s timeline is too optimistic. However, I don’t think the war will continue indefinitely, even if, or after, Biden is re-elected. My own timeline is next Feb. 2025, but we’ll see what the next six months bring.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 0:46 utc | 123

Posted by: Josef Schweik | May 3 2024 21:45 utc | 97
Easy, they are implementing the Nietzschean receipts.
Posted by: Naive | May 3 2024 21:48 utc | 99
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Perhaps ‘prescriptions’ was the intended word?
Depressing as all can be, Nietzsche that is, but the excerpts were completely to the point.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 4 2024 1:00 utc | 124

I would guess there is still 5 years before Russia wins outright.
Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 0:33 utc | 119
That’s a bit long. Seven plus years would be the longest interstate war without a significant insurgency component, outside of the Iran-Iraq war, in a while. Longer than either world war. But we’ll see.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 1:05 utc | 125

That’s a bit long. Seven plus years would be the longest interstate war without a significant insurgency component, outside of the Iran-Iraq war, in a while. Longer than either world war. But we’ll see.
Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 1:05 utc | 124
I’m expecting NATO to step in directly, and I think Russia is too.
Wars are slower now, objectives and levels of destruction are different. Choosing extended wars with low casualties is politically safer than flash wars with high casualties.
5th gen warfare is slow, slow, slow, and laid out well in advance.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 1:17 utc | 126

Apparently what’s got NATO all worked up is the fact Shoigu used the word “offensive ” for the very first time in his speech.

Posted by: Suresh | May 4 2024 1:18 utc | 127

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Posted by: psychohistorian | May 3 2024 19:58 utc | 82
A couple of weeks ago, I would’ve figured Biden for the long haul too, but it wasn’t, what? 3 days after the release of the funds, and now all the narrative is: “Are we too late?” “The delay in funding has caused quite a problem…”
It appears with the scheduled June “Peace Initiative” BS, some ploy to PR to show global support. “We had 83 Countries agree to …blah blah”
It’s also possible a very big provocation will come, in hopes Russia finishes off “the project”. Recently I read an an article out if Israel, they were sending Ukraine all of their Patriot Missiles they had (not the system) and the article slammed the Patriot, that it was useless and out of date, the missiles they were sending were old and out of date.
The F16s story is running out of excuses, they have no where to put the things. They’ll let 4 or 5 get shot up.
Macron is pushing the NATO Troops trope, for funzies, or because he’s being told too… another “reason” to end the war, as it could “escalate”… look at “crazy” Macron… call a truce.
“If only those Republicans would’ve given us the funds, it cost us the war…” all through campaign period…
So although “August” , as suggested, may be a bit early…
It’s not really far fetched. I originally guessed Summer 2025, seemed reasonable, but I really do think ME Gaza thing threw wrench in, and, for West, they need out soon.
I’m guessing the Peace thing, is them trying to cobble some kind of DMZ or Border force of some kind, the 10 year Ukraine bill (lol) (msm crack me up with their “Trump proof” spin thing… 10 years work, 5 countries & passed thru Security as a Resolution – the JCPOA, and Trump…” meh… to bad all y’all…” gone—there’s not a soul on this planet that doesn’t know a U.S. agreement, written or verbal, means nothing). They are slowly figuring out, there’s no negotiation. For Russia, “Take your toys and your boys and leave. And don’t ever think about coming back”… is the “deal”.
But, they need to do the PR motions, save face, Got the best “guarantees” for Ukraine possible, “if only those Republicans had done their job we could have gotten a better deal. “
Or WW3 with NATO… lol 😂

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 4 2024 1:35 utc | 128

has the west exhibited any desire for a ceasefire on anything like equal terms?? no… the conclusion is they won’t moving forward either… so either russia can continue to dominate here and lessen the numbers of ukrainians, mercenaries and foreign legions, or this goes on indefinitely… this is about money and a financial system that is in a state of decline…countries are slowly but surely departing from the us$ and it is in jeopardy… it might not happen right away, so a longer forecast here makes sense to me… i would be pleasantly surprised if it was quick.. i can’t see it… this is going against the west and the west does not have a back up plan.. they will continue to dig a ditch for themselves here, thinking they can dig their way out of this mess.. they can’t… arrogance and hubris reigns supreme in the halls of power in the west…

Posted by: james | May 4 2024 1:47 utc | 129

has the west shown any inclination towards a ceasefire? no..
this could go on a lot longer then many acknowledge… this is a war for financial dominance and the west, filled with arrogance and hubris is not seeing it pan out as planned.. they will continue to dig a ditch for themselves… my guess – this goes on much longer then many suspect.. it is the magnitude of the financial dynamics at play here which is why..

Posted by: james | May 4 2024 1:49 utc | 130

Good map of the Kerch bridge route. It is much, much longer so probably not even used for military supplies.
Note some spin blaming Ukraine’s problems on delayed aid. But if you read the details, most of the money for Ukraine will go to replenish American stockpiles, meaning the Biden team has kept shipping them whatever they needed. The good news is that American forces will not be combat ready for a year until their ammo stocks are replenished.

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | May 4 2024 1:55 utc | 131

it is the magnitude of the financial dynamics at play here which is why..
Posted by: james | May 4 2024 1:49 utc | 128

The financial dynamicism is the very thing that will bring the conflict to a sudden end.

Posted by: too scents | May 4 2024 2:11 utc | 132

Hey, let’s send money we don’t have to the most corrupt country on Earth. And let’s train battle-hardened locals by ours, who almost beat the shit out of goat-herders! So these locals learn to keep their rifle safety on when they patrol the most dangerous line on the planet!
Anyway, when the Debt Counter reaches 99999999999, it turns back to 00000000000! Pale face anglo magic!

Posted by: Asian frog | May 4 2024 2:40 utc | 133

Russias war aim is povrosk a rail way junction in donetsk.
This is for superior tactical advantage to demilitarize ukraine, ie kills its motivated soldiers and destroy its equipment, donated by nato.
The territory itself is only important in that it helps advance the demilitarization goal. Russia is killing Ukrainian soldiers until it can’t fight or the remaining soldiers mutiny and kill the nato collaborators in the government.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 4 2024 2:47 utc | 134

“An idee fixe is beyond reason. Why bother with reasoning and facts? No response saves the space for something more useful. There are many good contributors here.”
Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 4 2024 0:37 utc | 120
Wise post. Bears repeating.

Posted by: suzan | May 4 2024 2:56 utc | 135

There is a lesson there about the Kerch bridge and redundancies… Note how the Empire likes to personalize things and concentrate all their media animus on a singular person. Note how the media has similarly concentrated all its theatrical military threats upon terrorism upon the Kerch bridge — previously a supply choke point that has lingered in the Western imagination way belong its reality.
Now note how Venezuela and Bolivia had to push back against Empire, Bolivia having to regain freedom once again by massive voter outreach. It is because of mass movement, of whole populace education & uprising, of uncontrollable numbers of redundancies pushing back. Don’t fall for the game of leaders and cults of personality. Be replaceable, actively train others to carry the torch when you are gone: organize, organize, organize!

Posted by: titmouse | May 4 2024 3:06 utc | 136

In response to

it is the magnitude of the financial dynamics at play here which is why..
Posted by: james | May 4 2024 1:49 utc | 128

The financial dynamicism is the very thing that will bring the conflict to a sudden end.
Posted by: too scents | May 4 2024 2:11 utc | 130

I have been watching the global gold price and in the past week the price has been hammered down by $100/oz by what I believe are naked shorts entirely or at least partially because the volume traded must be huge and not coverable otherwise.
Naked short selling
Naked short selling, or naked shorting, is the practice of short-selling a tradable asset of any kind without first borrowing the asset from someone else or ensuring that it can be borrowed.
When one gets caught doing naked short selling they go bankrupt and may be prosecuted, BUT, if you are a nation and do it, who is going to prosecute you and how?
How DOES the ballon of empire pop?
China dumps US Treasuries
BRICS+ announces structure and details for alternative system of global finance
Foreign interests stop buying Treasuries.
Roll your own…

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 3:13 utc | 137

@ too scents | May 4 2024 2:11 utc | 130
i agree with you, but again – it is very hard to predict.. its a fools game in fact..
@ psychohistorian | May 4 2024 3:13 utc | 135
these are some of the games the financial empire plays.. i don’t expect it to stop.. it will probably get worse is my guess… 2008 revisited..

Posted by: james | May 4 2024 3:27 utc | 138

If the next government in the U.S., derived from the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, is representative of a government divided between Democrats and Republicans, then the budget battles will be brutal.
There are the sacred cows of Social Security and Medicare, along with National Defense, and National Security, and right below them in the pantheon/on the totem pole is spending for items like Medicaid, food stamps, the schools, and a mandatory minimum level of spending on the infrastructure.
On top of that are the powerful lobbies for green energy, social justice, and emergency spending on things like border security and taking care of the influx of migrants. Numerous other lobbies with significant influence also abound.
The cold equations as delivered by hallowed experts like the Fed will dictate that in order to maintain confidence in the American government, economy, and financial system, the budget will have to have some relation to reality in terms of the ratio of expenditures versus money coming in. Even if mostly just for show, Congress will be compelled to appear like it’s sharpened its pencil and is constructing a tight budget.
There will be unfeigned welps of pain originating from all the lobby groups, and from those voters who receive some benefit from government spending. And that will be the environment that the Department of Defense has to operate in when it requests funding for weapons, and that will be the environment for the State Department when it seeks funds to send to governments overseas.
I predict that Ukraine and Israel will both be a lot less popular among a lot more voters than they were a year prior to the 2025 budget getting formulated, and when money sent to them gets perceived as being taken away from Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, border security, and so on, look out, things will get crazy. The nightmare scenario for the establishment being when activists and agitators who oppose funding of the IDF, and the activists and agitators who oppose funding of the AFU, see an opportunity to back a common cause, and do so.
In the climate of outraged voters who see their sacred cows getting bled, such a cause could find a meaningful level of support.
P.S. The current high level of interest rates means the government is paying a steeper premium for its borrowing. That premium alone could have paid for a yooge level of governmental beneficience, but now it will be going instead to those who buy the Treasury Bonds/Bills/Notes. This will get talked about during the arguing over the next budget, as will the fact that borrowing more money so as to fund wars drives that high rate into staying high, or possibly even going higher.

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 4 2024 4:00 utc | 139

re: UWDude | May 4 2024 0:33 utc | 119
you suggest:
“If it comes to WW III, it could likely not end for 20 years.”
All-out WW III is more likely to last less than an hour. Takes 35 minutes for a Russian ICBM to hit the US and vice versa. 7 minutes or less for a SLBM to hit Washington or Moscow.

Posted by: Perimetr | May 4 2024 4:09 utc | 140

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Posted by: psychohistorian | May 3 2024 19:58 utc | 82
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 4 2024 1:35 utc | 127
Lots and lots of speculation here-some of it may be well foundered, but the reality is that for the present the RF is driving the war and dictating its direction. Failing overt Western (NATO) armed intervention I do not see that situation changing any time soon, so unless one has an inside channel to the Russian army high command I reckon speculating as to when or how this (completely avoidable) debacle will end is really only an intellectual exercise.
Perhaps some very senior US/NATO commanders have significant insight into the RF thinking and capabilities, and are extremely worried.
As Trubindi (@127) noted-
“It’s not really far fetched. I originally guessed Summer 2025, seemed reasonable, but I really do think ME Gaza thing threw wrench in, and, for West, they need out soon.”
I think is absolutely unrealistic to divorce the Israel/Gaza war from the Ukraine conflict since these two conundrums are the results of geo-political engineering by the collective West since the end of WW2. The chickens have “come home to roost” and unless quickly banished back into the wild, impose a very severe dampener on any near future plans to tame China. Is it any real wonder that Western governments and militaries appear to be sprouting increasingly frantic hopeium fuelled BS in respect of the Ukraine war?
A couple of days ago I posted the following passage-
IMO the Russians are not about to stop their attacks until they cross the Dnieper in force, and one way or another compel a Ukrainian surrender or overt intervention by Western armed forces- probably European rather than the full. NATO menagerie. Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 2 2024 0:03 utc | 131.
Until there are large meaningful battle developments in the Ukraine, I adhere to this position.
I suppose this could be construed as my own contribution to the pile of speculation, but I think it reasonable at the present time.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 4:41 utc | 141

The national debt ceased with the end of the Third Reich.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 4 2024 0:43 utc | 121
You haven’t really answered my question. Obviously the national debt ceased with the end of the Third Reich. And you can assume I’m familiar with the history (from Marshall plan to London).
I mean what happened to the creditors? Who were they? The debt itself must have been enormous. Was an administrator appointed to distribute assets to creditors?

Posted by: Patroklos | May 4 2024 4:44 utc | 142

Why bother with reasoning and facts? No response saves the space for something more useful. There are many good contributors here.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 4 2024 0:37 utc | 120

Lots of people were saying that Putin has been naive trying to talk to the Western Governments who were bent on lying to him. Now we see here how people are trying to talk to some parties who are diliberately denying evident facts and pretening to believe in obvious BS. Are people talking to vargas and Anonimous naive? I don’t think so, I think they are doing it out of politeness and respect towards the premises, and I think the same did Putin.

Posted by: Poslan1 | May 4 2024 5:33 utc | 143

The spambot is regurgitating nazi WW2 propaganda – at this rate it will take until 1952 for the Allies to reach Berlin.

Posted by: I | May 4 2024 5:41 utc | 144

@ Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 4:41 utc | 139 with follow up speculation…thanks
One of your assumptions that I think has already been overruled is NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine…NATO armed intervention you called it…..soon to be through the meat grinder, IMO.
You then correctly tie Ukraine to Occupied Palestine and their impact on potential empire attack on China….but what about Niger, Georgia, NK, etc…..grin….lots of dominoes falling all over the world, can you hear them?
In your quote from a previous comment you talk about “…until they cross the Dnieper in force.” and I think that is not necessary as I think capitulation will occur with the existing lines failing catastrophically.
Unreasonable times make lots of speculation reasonable….and history is written by the winners…..place your bets Ladies and Gentlemen!

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 5:54 utc | 145

Neofeudalfuture | May 4 2024 2:47 utc | 132
That would be a good plan isolated in vacuum, but it’ll take many years, Ukros love it, no one complains and there’s millions of them left without adding refugees soon to be sent back. Macarons are already there, then others will follow. Also that plan will last long after the time when Putin will retire. US only has to send a few dollars each month to their zombies, for a few more years, zero losses, win-win situation with entire EU becoming US proxy like Ukr. Once Putin is out, the replacement will be some low iq like Shoigu in a Pizza Hut ad like Gorby. It’ll be a lot more interesting to see what China and Iran do for their own interests, all alone

Posted by: rk | May 4 2024 5:59 utc | 146

How long will the war go on? Obviously, NATO wants it to go on as long as possible, both because their original game-plan was to draw Russia into an unwinnable war and thus lead to the overthrow of its government and the installation of a puppet regime, and because if the war is going to be lost NATO needs to spin out the defeat as long as possible so that those responsible for starting the war have time to retire.
However, NATO is not omnipotent, as this war has shown. Undeniably, NATO controls the Ukrainian government. However, ultimately populations are stronger than governments. Ultimately, too, armies are stronger than their commanders. If conditions get sufficiently bad in Ukraine, I would not be at all surprised to see some sort of anti-Dzhelenski uprising, some sort of anti-NATO uprising, or some sort of military coup. Judging by the general delusional attitude in NATO I seriously doubt that the SBU has very much real knowledge of opinion on the ground in Ukraine — that is, a serious uprising could happen unanticipated by the dictatorship. Ukraine is not Nazi Germany, it is much more like South Vietnam (the last Vietnamese dictator modelled himself on Hitler, but to no avail).
Of course, such uprisings might be aimed at “winning the war”, because Ukrainians, bombarded with mendacious propaganda and insulated from reality, are liable to be delusional. But it might also be that such an uprising might be aimed at ending the war, for I seriously doubt there is much enthusiasm for actually fighting the war on the ground in central and western Ukraine — all the militarists fantasise about OTHER people fighting the war FOR them.
So we might see an anti-war uprising as soon as late this year, and we might see some NATO officials and Dzhelenski goons with their heads on poles, as would be fitting. I wouldn’t count on it, but it’s far from impossible.

Posted by: MFB | May 4 2024 6:14 utc | 147

Great that you’re back b.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 3 2024 18:17 utc | 64
Given the thoroughly good shoeing you’ve had from more enlightened contributors to this thread, I don’t like to kick a man when he is down. But for you I’ll make an exception.
Death by a thousand years. Death by a thousand minutes. Death by a thousand seconds. It’s death all the same. You clearly don’t care about these people’s deaths (just like the western elites that you cheerlead for) you only complain about the time it takes for them to be destroyed. And you keep cheering on the demise of Ukrainian Armed Forces, now apparently supplemented with what Macron and the French ruling elite considers disposable trash. Their deaths and the military loss of this NATO Frankenstein and former Ukrainian territory is inevitable. It doesn’t matter how much you cheer on their deaths here.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 4 2024 6:50 utc | 148

Zaporozhye Front. Rabotino
🖋 The difficulty in taking a populated area is not that we are “killed” by the infantry. Over the course of several months, there were 5-6 shooting clashes. The rest of the time it’s cluster munitions, FPV, “Babki Yozhki”.
The difficulty is that it is difficult to settle down in the village. On an area, for example, 500 by 500 there is one basement, 10 people can fit in there, but there is no way to bury themselves. Because the “birds” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, if they see a person, then 100% fly out FPV with ammunition to kill.
“Birds” control the movement of our infantry. If our infantry tries to do something, then all these scum rise, fly and start killing. If not, then the “birds” control the sky, and enemy sabotage units come point-blank to this basement and throw grenades at the personnel. Our personnel cannot fight back. If he goes out into the street to conduct surveillance, he will 100% be identified and he will be destroyed in any case.
10-15 drones of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this one basement are not fairy tales. This is for real.
A huge number of drones. The enemy’s artillery has been targeted. It stands near Novaya Tokmachka and Novodanilovka. It’s not even about height control and shooting battles.”

https://t.me/two_majors/23353

Posted by: Down South | May 4 2024 6:52 utc | 149

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report #Summary for the Morning of 4 May 2024; pub. 07:00📍
🛡Over the territory of #Crimea, four ATACMS operational-tactical missiles were destroyed at night, the Russian Defence Ministry said.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, counter-action by both sides is intensifying on islands in the floodplain of the #Dnieper River. The area is targeted by artillery, and drones are also an integral factor influencing the course of hostilities. In this regard, the issue of mobile electronic warfare for our units is acute. The RFAF are using high precision munitions to eliminate the temporary deployment points of the AFU on the enemy coast.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, small groups of infantry are fighting in #Rabotino and northwest of #Verbovoye. An enemy attack was repelled in small arms combat near #Verbovoye. The AFU hit a five-storey house in #Tokmak, injuring four civilians.
🔹On the #Veremyevka ledge, The RFAF attacked #Urozhaynoye. In the face of constant enemy counterattacks, our units advanced to a distance of 300 metres. The Russian Army’s artillery and aviation fire disrupted the rotation of enemy units.
🔹In the #SouthDonetsk (#Ugledar) direction, fighting resumed near #Novomikhaylovka. The RFAF intensified attacks on #Paraskoviyevka. They report successes of our units in #Krasonogorovka near the Refractory Plant.
🔹In the #Pokrovskoye direction (west of #Avdeyevka), the RFAF are cutting the front protrusions in #Pervomayskoye and #Arkhangelskoye with flanking strikes. The zone of control on the #Ocheretino ledge is expanding, and footage of the withdrawal of enemy units has emerged from #Arkhangelskoye.
🔹At #ChasovYar, the enemy is pulling reinforcements from other sectors of the front. The enemy’s propaganda turns the battle for the town into another symbol, the so-called “fortress”. Heavy fighting is ongoing.
🔹In the #Kupyansk direction, the storming of #Kislovka by our troops continues.
💥In #Belgorod region, #Malinovka village of Belgorod district was attacked by an AFU drone. In #Shebekino, a kamikaze UAV hit a gas filling station. In #Voznesenovka, Shebekino urban district, a drone attacked a car and a bus of a commercial enterprise injured two civilians.
💥In #Kursk region, #Guyevo and #Gornal in the Sudzhansky district, #Lokot and #Kozino in the Rylsky district, Novy Put settlement and #Yelizavetovka village in the Glushkovsky district were shelled. Near #Troitskoye, Korenevsky district, the AFU UAVs dropped explosive devices three times. Near the Sudzha checkpoint, a kamikaze drone exploded when it landed, damaging a lorry with shrapnel. The AFU UAVs were suppressed by electronic warfare systems near the villages of #Gogolevka in the Sudzhansky district and #Gordeyevka in the Korenevsky district.

https://t.me/two_majors/23385

Posted by: Down South | May 4 2024 6:53 utc | 150

Our source indicates that the new mobilization bill should solve not only the issue of manpower.
His main task is to fill the budget with money that will be taken from people for violating the rules of the TCC. By the way, we mentioned this when we gave a presentation about Bankova’s idea to give the opportunity to officially buy off mobilization.
The bill was partially changed, but the essence remained the same. The rich man will pay off, and the poor man will be forced to go to war.
For example, the TCC determines that you did not update your data, or did not come according to the summons, or evaded mobilization in another way, then you will be fined without trial, if you do not pay it (fine up to 25,000 hryvnia), then your accounts will be seized and all your movable and immovable property. Then they will add a penalty and after a while they will sell your assets.
In this way, the budget will be quickly replenished. This strategy will work in the short term. A maximum of a year and a half, and then there will be an immediate collapse of everything. The situation will “devour” itself, and you will see that we will be right again.
In fact, all our sources say that this is agony. If they take such steps, then everything is very bad. And that means we were right again, there is not enough money. It’s much worse than you can imagine.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17866

Posted by: Down South | May 4 2024 6:57 utc | 151

Since we are all throwing predictions, mine is that Ukraine has meat for the trenches for around 6-8 years. Funding and weapons will keep going to Ukraine until 2 generation of men perish there and the country collapses.

Posted by: Trilobite | May 4 2024 6:58 utc | 152

Posted by: Napoleon | May 3 2024 19:15 utc | 73
A brainless handle for a brainless contributor. How did Napoleon get on against Russia? It’s as daft as calling yourself Hitler, the last idiot to attempt to attack Russia before Stoltenberg and today’s western political clowns.
As you’re new to trolling this bar, let us enlighten your western media brainwashed mind that so far over 500,000 Ukrainian combatants have been demilitarised in this operation.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 4 2024 6:59 utc | 153

⚡️🇺🇦⚡️ The Ministry of Defense has published a list of diseases with which Ukrainians are recognized as fit for military service.
Among the diseases with which you are suitable for the front:
– chronic viral hepatitis with minor impairment of liver function, as well as chronic viral hepatitis without impairment of liver function;
– mild diabetes mellitus;
– diseases of the thyroid gland with mild thyrotoxicosis (mild neurosis-like symptoms, decreased tolerance to physical activity, tachycardia with a pulse rate of up to 100 beats per minute);
– cancer in the phase of long-term stable remission after specific treatment;
– disease caused by HIV (stable) or asymptomatic carriage of HIV, with immune compensation;
– residual changes after cured tuberculosis of various localizations;
– syphilis, gonococcal infection and other sexually transmitted infectious diseases after treatment;
– slowly progressing and non-progressive blood diseases with minor dysfunctions and rare exacerbations;
– mild mental disorders with recovery;
– pregnant women and women who have given birth, if pregnancy and the postpartum period proceed without complications.
Students will go to the TCC with the following illnesses:
– chronic viral hepatitis with moderate dysfunction;
– moderate diabetes mellitus;
– thyrotoxicosis and thyroid diseases with moderate hypothyroidism;
– conditions after radical surgical treatment of the primary tumor; cancer of the lower lip, skin cancer;
– slowly progressing and non-progressive cancer with moderate and minor dysfunction of the hematopoietic system and infrequent exacerbations;
– HIV-related disease with immune subcompensation;
– clinically cured tuberculosis;
– congenital developmental defects with moderate functional impairment, including heart defects with heart failure of the first degree, absence of one kidney;
– slowly progressing blood diseases with moderate dysfunction and frequent exacerbations;
– mild mental manifestations of psychosis and other mental disorders due to injuries, brain tumors, epilepsy, encephalitis, meningitis, brain syphilis;
– mild mental retardation;
– acute polymorphic psychotic disorder without symptoms of schizophrenia, mild forms of bipolar affective disorder with infrequent attacks;
– moderately severe, long-term or repeated neurotic disorders, moderate PTSD, moderate stress anxiety-depressive disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, which, despite pathogenetic treatment, persist and prevent individuals from performing military service duties;
– moderately expressed forms of disorders and pathological personality development with moderately expressed persistent emotional-volitional affective breakdowns, as well as mental infantilism.
Not only are our TCC people already cruel and inadequate, but now there will also be officially confirmed psychopaths, OCD sufferers, the mentally retarded and infantiles.

https://t.me/ZeRada1/19448

Posted by: Down South | May 4 2024 7:00 utc | 154

Simplicius has an ‘attrition special’, sourced from the (US) RUSI article. Best viewed in its full 6800 word length by actual Substack subscribers, so no URL, which would only get 1900 into the piece.
The short version? Told ya so……

Posted by: Waymad | May 4 2024 7:00 utc | 155

🪖 The situation in the direction of Chasov Yar.
The situation remains difficult, the enemy is pulling reserves from all sectors of the front to their detriment, transferring them to Chasov Yar. This is due to the fact that after the fall of Avdeevka and the outbreak of fighting in Krasnohorivka, this city was given the utmost importance.
Firstly, this is the dominant height on the entire Donetsk Ridge. Secondly, the capture of Chasov Yar opens up further routes for the advance of our troops to Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Konstantinovka and Druzhkovka – to an entire agglomeration of cities.
That is why, in order to prevent a breakthrough of our troops, all possible reserves are being brought up. Our command, anticipating the enemy’s plan, is delaying the moment of assault, concentrating on grinding down reserves. Army, front-line and tactical aviation are involved. Artillery and hail are working, Tosy.
The enemy’s radio interceptions indicate the depressing moral and psychological state of the enemy. He suffers losses every day in killed and wounded. There is no goal to take the city by May 9th. Our command is trying to save the lives of the soldiers and is not falling for the tricks of Kyiv propaganda. The assault on the city will take place when the appropriate conditions are created.
At the same time, the tactical situation is improving daily through the use of small assault group tactics. The enemy is trying to hold his position, but the lack of manpower is taking its toll; his hope now is for the speedy arrival of Western aid and, possibly, a large number of mercenaries. According to intelligence information, the foreign legion of Ukraine is already in Chasov Yar. During the May holidays and the inauguration of the President, provocations from the Armed Forces of Ukraine are expected.
In general, we can conclude that, despite the measures taken by the enemy, the fall of the Clock of Yar is a matter of time.

https://t.me/two_majors/23340

Posted by: Down South | May 4 2024 7:04 utc | 156

Posted by: Macpott | May 3 2024 20:15 utc | 85 Posted by: Babel-17 | May 3 2024 20:27 utc | 90
Thanks for your kind words – much appreciated.

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | May 4 2024 7:12 utc | 157

All-out WW III is more likely to last less than an hour. Takes 35 minutes for a Russian ICBM to hit the US and vice versa. 7 minutes or less for a SLBM to hit Washington or Moscow.
Posted by: Perimetr | May 4 2024 4:09 utc | 138
If the nukes fly, the killing between those left alive will intensify.
Only about 3B would perish if all nukes are spent on only city centers, and none on military installations. If the other way around, where only military targets are prioritized, only 1B would perish immediately.
It is nihilist to think ww III would be a quick everybody dies. Makes it almost seem simple, and not so terrifying.
No, the death of civilization would start horribly, and then continue to be horrible, for generations.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 7:28 utc | 158

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 7:28 utc | 156
Given the distance between Bangor and Bremerton naval shipyard it is likely they will both be hit with lay down strikes to avoid interference between the devices. That’s a lot of fission reactors dumping out a radioactive death cloud that is going to make me dead before the end of the first day. Sucks I don’t live close enough to a primary target to just get vaporized.

Posted by: badjoke | May 4 2024 7:57 utc | 159

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 4:41 utc | 139

Failing overt Western (NATO) armed intervention I do not see that situation changing any time soon, so unless one has an inside channel to the Russian army high command I reckon speculating as to when or how this (completely avoidable) debacle will end is really only an intellectual exercise.

Not entirely just an intellectual exercise, because there are data, so data-driven inferences are possible.
The most relevant data are two data points: the Second Chechen War and the Georgia War.
The Ukraine War was turning into a second case of the Georgia War by March 2022 but incompetent Western elites decided to turn it into a second case of the Second Chechen War.
The Second Chechen war lasted 10 years, though it was mostly decided by the end of the second year, and ended with the complete victory of Russia under Putin’s leadership. Nonlinear extrapolation from Chechnia to Ukraine will give you a realistic time frame for the Ukraine war: mostly decided by 2025 but fighting going on for a good number of years after and lots of terrorist attacks on Russian territory. The end will be the same as in the Second Chechen War.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 4 2024 7:58 utc | 160

Given the distance between Bangor and Bremerton naval shipyard it is likely they will both be hit with lay down strikes to avoid interference between the devices. That’s a lot of fission reactors dumping out a radioactive death cloud that is going to make me dead before the end of the first day. Sucks I don’t live close enough to a primary target to just get vaporized.
Posted by: badjoke | May 4 2024 7:57 utc | 157
Whoa. I grew up there. Bremerton and Poulsbo.

Posted by: Uwdude | May 4 2024 8:25 utc | 161

(TG) 10-15 drones of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this one basement are not fairy tales. This is for real.

Posted by: Down South | May 4 2024 6:52 utc | 147

Also via Two Majors, things are improving but often slowly, unevenly.
https://t.me/dva_majors/41513

Forwarded from Roman Alekhine
About war as an industry
Comrade Majors, let’s be honest, today’s war is an industry that is currently beneficial to everyone except Russia. China also makes good money from it, as do a number of other countries.
But only those countries earn and develop in which the industry is led not by Timur Ivanovs, but by those who may not be super honest, but at least understand that if they steal, then only from profit.
And our country can make a technological breakthrough because, as you rightly said, even at the front, in combat conditions, front-line inventors create new tools and look for options for correcting management mistakes. There are some among the volunteers. But more often than not, this is not thanks to, but despite the activities of officials – either quietly, so as not to be seen, or they break through some walls with their foreheads, because they understand the importance of technology and victory, as well as preserving the lives of fighters. This was partly the case with my connection; there are other examples.
That is, it is not a matter of people, but of management. And in technology, skills and knowledge of management, our country lags very far behind, because managers were not valued for their professionalism, but were valued for the loyalty and skills of Timur Ivanov.
In Ukraine, they learned how to manage decentralized systems: they would already support all inventors, select the best, hold discussions, gather them into teams and start producing. At the same time, their nets and pieces of equipment are sewn not by volunteers, although they too, but following the example of FPV – mini-workshops throughout the country – often former mini-ateliers, in which there are 2-3 machines. And then competent logistics. They tell me from the other side that they don’t have huge repair centers, but car services are maximally adapted for this. And all this is managed by professional managers so that it works quickly and smoothly.
We won’t have this without changing approaches and recruiting managers to suit new approaches, who will be able not to issue orders from Moscow and not collect tribute from contractors, but to work with people as with those on whom their work depends, and in the case of the defense industry – on whom victory and the future of the country depend.
But there seem to be hints of future changes. We live in hope…

Posted by: anon2020 | May 4 2024 8:29 utc | 162

Video (in German):

“Here is a German Leopard tank captured in Ukraine, which is in Moscow’s Victory Park. And it is very sad that in this very park, which was founded in honor of the victory over German fascism, there should again be fresh German military equipment. I would like to say hello to the German warmongers and address Frau Strack-Zimmermann, Berbock, von der Leyen. Is it really necessary to spend so much money on decorating the streets of Moscow or is it better to spend it on the needs of Germany?”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/96587

Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2024 8:36 utc | 163

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 5:54 utc | 143
Thank you for your comments on my @139. I actually understand your criticisms of some of the points I made in @139, but in regard to NATO involvement in Ukraine, I never suggested that NATO in its entirety would formally enter the conflict, and I accept that has been ruled out. But NATO has been informally heavily involved since the beginning of the SMO with provision of weapons, ISR data and probably some tactical leadership during the actual fighting. However, if (when) the RF crosses into West Ukraine and moves towards Nikolaev and Odessa – as I think it must- then substantial Western forces (air, artillery and infantry) would almost certainly be required to prevent a crushing defeat of the UAF. Such intervention forces would probably come from Poland, France and the UK on bilateral basis with Kiev. Romania and the Baltics might make token contributions as well.
The command structure of this assortment of forces from different nations could be a problem, but the various large scale NATO exercises would have laid the groundwork for such structures, and I’d be surprised if they have not already developed the required contingency plans.
The fate of Odessa seems to be very important for both sides and I think any threat of a large RF advance towards that city -probably coupled with a second drive to the North-West would be the trigger for overt European armed intervention.
In so far as the RF crossing the Dnieper in force, I would like to think that the UAF could be decisively defeated (destroyed) in the Eastern part of Ukraine, leading to surrender by Kiev. However, I do not think the collective West would accept this as the final situation, and Kiev would remain a significant threat to the RF. I also reckon it is highly unlikely that Kiev (and the West) would negotiate meaningfully with the RF in respect of the status of Odessa.
I am completely in agreement with your observation of a multitude of dominoes falling all over the world, and that any one of them should not be seen in isolation. The Israel-Palestinian genocide (or ethnic cleansing) is a very important “domino” which attracts a lot of Western MSM attention, hence it was heavily on my mind when I wrote @139.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 8:56 utc | 164

Further to discussion of shotguns as standard counter-drone equipment.
https://t.me/milinfolive/121484

Smoothbore self-loading shotguns “Vepr-12” “Molot” are distributed in units of the RF Armed Forces.
In the photo there are two fighters who have already shot down FPV drones. The first is from the cover of the demining group, the second is from the protection of the Tor air defense system.
Photo: @astrahandm

Posted by: anon2020 | May 4 2024 9:00 utc | 165

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2024 2:28 utc | 369

Movies – be they Russian, American or whatever – based on historical records and set in their times with good actors I always like…………..

maybe of interest
The Unknown War — presented by Burt Lancaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuuthpJmAig&list=PLfLzvgzsb9TifHZ7atjvqaLinfp1lfs3R

Posted by: ghiwen | May 4 2024 9:04 utc | 166

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 4 2024 7:58 utc | 158
Thank you Johan, perhaps I was being glib with my ”intellectual exercise” remark, and accept that the second Chechen war took a long time to finally resolve. But the 2008 Georgian war was very much shorter. Of course, covert Western Involvement in both of these wars against the RF is generally acknowledged.
You may well be correct in your 2025 estimate of the end of major fighting, but with substantial on going guerrilla activity. That is why IMO the RF has to decisively defeat Kiev and its attendant Western enablers on the battle field, and this should take place in the West of Ukraine.
Wish I had a reliable crystal ball, but….

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 9:21 utc | 167

https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/6026

🇷🇺 In Russia, serial production of ATGMs for Drones has been launched.
Rostec announced that it has launched the serial production of ATGMs “Kh-UAV”. These missiles are adapted versions of the “Kornet-D” ATGMs for air launch. With a firing range of 10 kilometers, they have armor penetration of 1200mm.
The “Kh-UAV” Missiles are intended for heavy drones “Pacer” (aka. Orion). The testing of the missile was reported in 2021, but there has been no information about it since then.
Recently, the “Pacer” Drones have been operating in the Kharkov region, destroying Ukrainian equipment with guided bombs. The use of ATGMs will allow them to destroy heavy equipment and engage targets from a greater distance.

https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/34052

There are details that Ukraine asks the U.S. to include MQ-9 Reaper UAVs for target guidance and reconnaissance.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/469480-the-essential-act-of-war-is-destruction-not-necessarily-of

“The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking into the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed.”
― George Orwell, 1984

Posted by: anon2020 | May 4 2024 9:32 utc | 168

To finish this was Russia must bring pain to EU.
For example, by destroying Ukro energy network totally.
So that EU must continuously provide electricity to Ukraine.
But Kremlin’s oligarchs have other interests.

Posted by: vargas | May 4 2024 9:39 utc | 169

Posted by: James M. | May 3 2024 23:39 utc | 112
I’ve linked the source of the .01% several times previously. Here you go, again.
https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1786376285574373643
Note that APR (just out) was another .01% month. Not even the .02% of FEB24.
This isn’t even just to throw it in your teeth. It’s that you get the wrong perception of reality by sitting in a likeminded bubble and not looking at facts. I’m not even arguing which you side you WANT to win. But that you be analytical and honest in looking at facts.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 9:54 utc | 170

Re: Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 9:54 utc | 168

Note that APR (just out) was another .01% month. Not even the .02% of FEB24.
This isn’t even just to throw it in your teeth. It’s that you get the wrong perception of reality by sitting in a likeminded bubble and not looking at facts. I’m not even arguing which you side you WANT to win. But that you be analytical and honest in looking at facts.

I am convinced Russia will sign a peace treaty/armistice without achieving their stated aims in this war.
Why do i think this?
Because of Putin’s past behaviour over the last 25 years and there is no indication he has really changed his views on conflict resolution at all.
Given the way this war has been fought by Russia there is no evidence whatsoever Putin has changed his views on how to resolve and suspend conflict.
Muh attrition etc etc.
This is not a conflict Russia wants to fight – the evidence is Russia continually indicating they are ready for peace talks.
If this conflict ended today it would be frozen on the current line of control.
Dreams of Odessa, Kharkiv, Kiev and even Kherson would be completely abandoned and forgotten – and in this forum they would largely be forgiven as in Russia’s interest.

Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:09 utc | 171

Posted by: UWDude | May 3 2024 23:47 utc | 113
5th generation war? I guess my 9 years active and 12 reserves is irrelevant. Probably doing third generation for most of it, with a tiny bit of 4th at the tail end. I guess we can throw out Clausewitz, Zu, Mahan, all history texts, and the like. All different now.
I also play 2D chess. No 5-D. Then again, I saw how 5-D hopium worked out for the Q-tards and Sundance commenteriat in 2020.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:10 utc | 172

All different now.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:10 utc | 170
Indeed it is.
Internet and individualised mass media changed everything.
Q had no power. Trump had no power.
Putin made the movie twenty years ago.
Trump is a patriotic boomer simpleton.
Putin was head of kgb cultural affairs in Berlin the day the wall fell.
Just because Trump cant play 5d chess does not mean 5d chess does not exist.
Your service *is* irrelevant.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 10:23 utc | 173

Morning updates from Willy and Dima:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ps6f9K2hY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoo0EnON_oo
Ignore the clickbait titles and watch the videos and progress is minimal. Field near Chasiv Yar. Some grey zone increase elsewhere. Willy pads out his video with aid and weapons system content (map changes minimal). Dima admits there are no geolocations (supposedly his threshold), just Telegrammer claims for RFA advances in vicinity of Keramik.
So far May looking like another .01% month. Not even the .02% excitement of FEB. Let alone a .1%, 1%, or even 10% advance.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:25 utc | 174

Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:09 utc | 169
Agreed. I think the Korean War is the closest analogy. Or maybe Iran/Iraq. Of course all analogies are imperfect. History rhymes, not repeats.
Ukraine and the West right now have more will to fight than the Russians. Putin will do a face-saving armistice when/if the West is ready.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:30 utc | 175

But that you be analytical and honest in looking at facts.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 9:54 utc | 168
If that’s the case, and you think you’re being honest and “analytical “ why don’t you figure out the percentage of the Donbas region that Russia has taken vis-a-vis Ukrainian gains and post that instead. That would be a little more accurate don’t you think, since Russia has never stated that they want to take all of Ukraine. Also that guy’s calculations start in April 2022, not exactly unbiased, or honest himself.
Anyway thank you for the link. Much to your surprise I’m sure, but I don’t read all your posts, so I hadn’t seen it before.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:30 utc | 176

Because of Putin’s past *behaviour* over the last 25 years and there is no indication he has really changed his views on conflict resolution at all.
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:09 utc | 169
Brit.
He invaded Ukraine 2 years ago. That alone was seismic.
*****”
This is not a conflict Russia wants to fight – the evidence is Russia continually indicating they are ready for peace talks.
***”
Talks that only start with, “give us what we want”.
If….
….would be… completely abandoned and forgotten – and in this forum they would largely be forgiven as in Russia’s interest.
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:09 utc | 169
If if if if if

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 10:31 utc | 177

174: You’re welcome. (Or no worries, as the Aussies say.) If you want to do alternate calculations, you go ahead. There is a limit to how much I will peel grapes for you. I reposted a link (for the severalth time).
I would suggest using all annexed oblasts as the denominator, though, not just one. (And make sure to let the Odessa-hopiumers know that your denominator omits that city…)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:39 utc | 178

This is not a conflict Russia wants to fight – the evidence is Russia continually indicating they are ready for peace
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:09 utc | 169
What evidence. What that little news blurb six months, oh yeah we’ll negotiate sure…once we win. You forget about that last part there, which is what Russia really meant.
States send signals about negotiating all the time. How many years before the fall of Saigon did the North Vietnamese negotiate? It’s fairly meaningless, and besides Russia isn’t negotiating now.
As to whether Russia wanted the war or not, of course not. But it was forced upon them. War is a policy option with other means. But don’t take my word for it ask Anonymous, he’s read Clausewitz, and all.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:47 utc | 179

This is not a conflict Russia wants to fight – the evidence is Russia continually indicating they are ready for peace
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:09 utc | 169
What evidence. What that little news blurb six months, oh yeah we’ll negotiate sure…once we win. You forget about that last part there, which is what Russia really meant.
States send signals about negotiating all the time. How many years before the fall of Saigon did the North Vietnamese negotiate? It’s fairly meaningless, and besides Russia isn’t negotiating now.
As to whether Russia wanted the war or not, of course not. But it was forced upon them. War is a policy option with other means. But don’t take my word for it ask Anonymous, he’s read Clausewitz, and all.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:47 utc | 180

Ukraine and the West right now have more will to fight than the Russians. Putin will do a face-saving armistice when/if the West is ready.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:30 utc | 173
RAOFPML 😂 I’m sure that you didn’t intend to make us laugh with your nonsense, but that’s the funniest thing that I’ve read here in the last two years.
Give it a break troll, b’s stitches hurt when he laughs really hard.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 4 2024 10:50 utc | 181

I guess my 9 years active and 12 reserves is irrelevant
Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:10 utc | 170
Yeah it pretty much is. Russia is fighting a completely different war, and sometimes disregarding some of the maxims of war, and it’s working for them. But you’ve read Clausewitz so you’re an expert and all.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:51 utc | 182

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 9:54 utc | 168
More, ‘ looking just beyond the hood analysis’, it’s comforting, allows its ‘driver’ to stay in their comfort zone, but rarely has predicted the eventual course of historical events, due to the scope and methodologies used. I once heard this called the ‘23:00 14/4/1912’ approach, which I thought was quite an apposite reference.

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2024 10:52 utc | 183

Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:25 utc | 172
It is obvious that you have never had a car with a faulty fuel gauge. It all works wonderfully until the fuel runs out, but you don’t know when precisely that will happen, but when it does your car no longer works.
That is Ukraine, the tank is being drained, the gauge is a secret, but that tank is not being replenished fast enough to keep the car running and the Ukrainian car needs to be kept running for several years by all reports. When the Ukrainian petrol runs out, the Russians will go wherever they please and take all the territory they need and there is nothing that Ukraine or the West can do about it except WW111 and nukes, which is unlikely.

Posted by: ZimZum | May 4 2024 10:56 utc | 184

Re: Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:47 utc | 178

What evidence. What that little news blurb six months, oh yeah we’ll negotiate sure…once we win. You forget about that last part there, which is what Russia really meant.

Good one!!
I’m lucky you are here to decode for me what the Russians really mean when they say one thing and actually mean the complete opposite!!
And yet here I’ve read many times that the Russians are ” straight talkers “ who insist on saying what they mean and in sticking to their word unlike the lying, devious and perfidious West! (Albion obviously)!!

Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:56 utc | 185

And yet here I’ve read many times that the Russians are ” straight talkers “…
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:56 utc | 183
Kgb agents never were.
Putin denied he was going to invade Ukraine 24 hours before he did.
C’est le guerre.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 10:58 utc | 186

There is a limit to how much I will peel grapes for you
Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:39 utc | 176
You’re the one who keeps banging on about percentages of land. Only one here in fact. If I have the time I’ll look into it, but the onus should be on you- being honest and analytical and all. I don’t pretend to be unbiased.
So you won’t do it, either because you can’t do it, or because it undermines your argument about .01 percent of land taken every month. Good to know. Have a great weekend.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:59 utc | 187

That’s a bit long. Seven plus years would be the longest interstate war without a significant insurgency component, outside of the Iran-Iraq war, in a while. Longer than either world war. But we’ll see.
Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 1:05 utc | 124
I’m expecting NATO to step in directly, and I think Russia is too.
Wars are slower now, objectives and levels of destruction are different. Choosing extended wars with low casualties is politically safer than flash wars with high casualties.
5th gen warfare is slow, slow, slow, and laid out well in advance.
Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 1:17 utc | 125
I don’t believe the Ukies have 5 years of people left to fight. Neither, I suspect, do they have 5 years worth of will. These are not Afghani, living in mud huts, willing to sacrifice everything for Allah for as long as it takes. Ukrainians see themselves as cosmopolitan, bon vivant Westerners. They are not gonna suffer indefinitely. As the war grinds on, men and women lost, so, too, the vital conveniences of modern light, as Russia slow boils the frog. Electricity, internet service, ability to travel around via functioning rail and bridges, heat, A/C, sufficient food, etc, continue being eroded and there goes the Good Life. It’s non-linear. Thus, I suspect it’s gonna be like the Hemingway quote: “How did you go bankrupt? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”

Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | May 4 2024 11:11 utc | 188

“I see the international system that we were accustomed to after the Cold War no longer exists. America has lost its status of hegemon and the post-1945 multilateral order is losing ground. I see China rising to the superpower status,” Borrell stressed.

borrell may be a fascist, but at least he is aknowledging that the hegemon is in trouble.
but as usual, the buzzwords:
“international system.. accustomed to after the cold war” no worries josep, there was also a time before that when people were accustomed to.
“post 1945 multilateral order” also no problem jungle-josep, gardening was a thing before that time.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 4 2024 11:12 utc | 189

So you won’t do it, either because you can’t do it, or because it undermines your argument about .01 percent of land taken every month. Good to know. Have a great weekend.
Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 10:59 utc | 185

Western specialists of this kind who pre-planned the Ukranian Summer Counter-Attack demanded land gains as the metric of success exactly because they were taught this way. With friends like this…

Posted by: Poslan1 | May 4 2024 11:14 utc | 190

And yet here I’ve read many times that the Russians are ” straight talkers “ who insist on saying what they mean and in sticking to their word unlike the lying, devious and perfidious West! (Albion obviously)!!
Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 10:56 utc | 183
Who said that here? Not me. Anyway, what’s that definition of a diplomat: a good man who lies for his country. In this war negotiations and the appearance of negotiations, on both sides, are all about stalling, until something breaks.
I’m still thinking that’s going to be Ukraine. Putin can’t afford to stop the war short of Russian goals.

Posted by: James M. | May 4 2024 11:19 utc | 191

I don’t believe the Ukies have 5 years of people left to fight. Neither, I suspect, do they have 5 years worth of will. These are not Afghani, living in mud huts, willing to sacrifice everything for Allah for as long as it takes. Ukrainians see themselves as cosmopolitan, bon vivant Westerners. They are not gonna suffer indefinitely.
Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | May 4 2024 11:11 utc | 186
Agree. I said Ukraine has 3, NATO has five, Russia has 20, in post 117.
NATO will not just let Ukraine go. They will require a bloody nose too before they cry uncle.
I think fantasies of ukrainian insurgency afterward are americans masturbating about watching Russia getting fucked the way america gets fucked.
Ukrainians aren’t chechens.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 11:21 utc | 192

re: UWDude | May 4 2024 0:33 utc | 119
you suggest:
“If it comes to WW III, it could likely not end for 20 years.”
All-out WW III is more likely to last less than an hour. Takes 35 minutes for a Russian ICBM to hit the US and vice versa. 7 minutes or less for a SLBM to hit Washington or Moscow.
Posted by: Perimetr | May 4 2024 4:09 utc | 138
Not really necessary to nuke the US or any other state proper. EMPs detonated in the atmosphere to knock out the electrical grids would be all it takes. When the grids go down and anything with a micro chip in it, there’s no transportation, no water, no electricity, no industry and NO FOOD in the grocery within 3 days. All you need to do is sit back and watch society tear itself apart in the collapse. Within 28 Days, Americans will be resorting to cannibalism and thus your enemy will literally eat itself.

Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | May 4 2024 11:31 utc | 193

I think fantasies of ukrainian insurgency afterward are americans masturbating about watching Russia getting fucked the way america gets fucked.
Ukrainians aren’t chechens.
Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 11:21 utc | 190

maybe we should redefine what an “ukrainian insurgency” is going to look like. personally i believe that such an insurgency will mostly consist of drones, as they have now proven to be functionally a cheap and reliable source for terrorism, can easily be smuggled in the country, and can operated by basically anyone that has used a nintendo before.
and by “anyone” i am going to say nato sheepdipped little green men.
i have no doubt that the ukrainians are not chechens, but for droneoperations, they dont have to be. they dont even have to be ukrainians at all.
thats the “beauty” of it as the americans most probally think. they will use anyone from nato thats looking for some easy and “safe” money to operate a quadcopter with a grenade attached to it.
russia will not only have to obliberate the whole of ukrainian military in the first place, but also has to find a way to neutralize this drone threat, not only against its own military, but especially against civilians in both russia and whatever remains of ukraine.
and that then where the attrition part thats in favour for nato comes into play, as they simply have more manpower that can be used for this without having to risk them in a real battle.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 4 2024 11:32 utc | 194

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:10 utc | 170
‘Then again, I saw how 5-D hopium worked out for the Q-tards and Sundance commenteriat in 2020.’
Careful, your mask of neutrality is beginning to slip and using the 5D chess analogy, as a pejorative, is somewhat telling.

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2024 11:42 utc | 195

…I guess my 9 years active and 12 reserves is irrelevant
Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 10:10 utc | 170….
Well, the Ukies from UA ZeRada info channel obviously are short of your sharp military training and experience, for today these Ukies published the following
🇺🇦🧩🇺🇦Dynamics of the state
In the second decade of March, it became known that Zelensky, under pressure from the United States, rejected Erdogan’s Istanbul-2 peace plan.
What events have happened since then:
🔹The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 13 settlements: Orlovka, Tonenkoye, Krasnoye, Vodyanoye, Pervomaiskoye, Bogdanovka, Novomikhailovka, Novobakhmutovka, Semyonovka, Ocheretino, Berdychi, Solovyovo, Novokalinovo;
🔹The total losses of territories were: about 100 sq. km.;
🔹The shelling at least seriously damaged: Dnieper, Kanevskaya, Dniester, Kremenchug hydroelectric power stations, Trypilska thermal power station, high-voltage substations and the ENTIRE energy structure of Kharkov. In total, 8 GW of electrical capacity was destroyed;
🔹The following were shelled: the Kharkov TV tower, Zorya-Mashproekt, Motor Sich, Naftogaz gas storage facilities, port infrastructure on the Danube, railway facilities in Odessa, Pavlograd, Dnieper;
🔹Daily losses at the front + attacks in the rear as at the Profspilkovaya hotel in Chernigov;
🔹A law tightening mobilization has been adopted.
Does the above seem to improve/strengthen Ukraine’s position before peace negotiations? Definitely no!
Did this period strengthen Ukraine as a state – no. Can we hope for strengthening in the future – no.
What then is the point for Ukraine and the Ukrainian people in continuing the war – none.
Just proof that the actions of the authorities directly contradict the national interests of Ukrainians‼️
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Posted by: Josef Schweik | May 4 2024 11:47 utc | 196

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 4 2024 11:32 utc | 192
It’s easy to be a warrior when your government provides for you and protects you.
It’s almost impossible when your government hunts you, and pays neighbors who hate you to narc on you.
The weapons dont matter. Insurgencies operate via popular support. Flying drones, planting bombs, shooting up army recruit drives, assassinating collaborators, all this can only happen if the insurgent has a network and friendly populace around it… ..unless they are a suicide commando.
Ukrainians are shallow, materialistic idiots, not religious zealots. A few lone wolves will do stuff, but suicide commandos, none.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 11:49 utc | 197

Re: Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | May 4 2024 11:31 utc | 191

Not really necessary to nuke the US or any other state proper. EMPs detonated in the atmosphere to knock out the electrical grids would be all it takes. When the grids go down and anything with a micro chip in it, there’s no transportation, no water, no electricity, no industry and NO FOOD in the grocery within 3 days. All you need to do is sit back and watch society tear itself apart in the collapse. Within 28 Days, Americans will be resorting to cannibalism and thus your enemy will literally eat itself.

Does Russia not have any of these so-called ”EMP wunderwaffen?
Seems like they’d be very useful in Ukraine right about now.

Posted by: Julian | May 4 2024 11:53 utc | 198

193:
The funny thing is I voted for him. I just don’t like hopium and bias from “my own” side. If there was a more grown-up forum, blog or the like would chat there. It’s not like I get anything out of bugging people here (who like their bubble). But where?
It’s strange how the Internet has changed and degraded. Were incredible discussions online, twenty-five years ago. Sure, some screwing around and trolling and flaming (which in doses is actually fun). But now it’s like Fox News versus Firing Line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_Line_(TV_program) OK, maybe not quite…but that direction.) 😉

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4 2024 12:00 utc | 199

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 9:21 utc | 165

That is why IMO the RF has to decisively defeat Kiev and its attendant Western enablers on the battle field, and this should take place in the West of Ukraine.

I fully agree with your opinion and I also suspect Russian elites, with the agreement of their subjects, are on the way to provide exactly that.
Also considering other relevant data points such as Japan’s and Germany’s defeat in WWII, as well as Chechnya’s, all three providing harsh lessons about how to totally defeat the fundamental spirit and fanaticism of the enemy, it seems the Russians will undertake some big destruction and massacres in Western Ukraine (Lvov) and/or Kyev. I suspect Russian leadership would prefer other resolutions but in the case of Chechnya, this same leadership totally destroyed the capital city, killed thousand of civilians, and inflicted enormous suffering on the enemy. So I guess the worst is still to come for ukrops, they will learn the hard way how foolish is to be a far away power’s bitch instead of good friends with your neighbor.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 4 2024 12:00 utc | 200