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May 18, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Kharkiv Incursion Forensics – Attacks On Russia And Russian Revenge

On May 11 I had analyzed the Russian move towards Kharkiv and concluded that it was designed to create a 'sanitary zone' along the boarder, not to take Kharkiv:

Thus the Kharkiv offensive seems designed to create a buffer zone, maybe 6 miles / 10 kilometers deep, on Ukrainian land along the norther border with Russia. That it diverts Ukrainian forces from elsewhere and positions them in mostly open land for their eventual destruction is just a welcome side effect.

In a recent press conference President Putin of Russia confirmed this:

As far as the developments in the Kharkov sector are concerned, they are also to blame for these, because they shelled and, regrettably, continue to shell residential areas in border territories [of Russia], including Belgorod. Civilians are dying there, it’s clear for everyone. They fire missiles right at the city centre, at residential areas. I said publicly that if this continues, we will be forced to create a security zone, a sanitary zone. And this is what we are doing today.

As for [the seizure of] Kharkov, there are no such plans for now.

The Russian Kharkiv incursion is a direct consequence of Ukrainian attacks on Russian civilians.

Likewise is the recent Russian destruction of electrical power generation stations in Ukraine a direct consequence of Ukrainian attacks on Russia refining facilities. As the Russian daily report on its operation in Ukraine noted on May 8:

In response to the Kiev regime's attempt to damage Russian power facilities, the Russian Armed Forces launched a long-range high-precision group strike by sea- and air-based missiles, the Kinzhal aeroballistic hypersonic missile system, unmanned aerial vehicles at power facilities, as well as enterprises of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex.

The goal of the strike has been achieved. All the assigned targets have been engaged.

Ukraine has lost some eight gigawatt of generating power and had to start rolling blackouts:

Since March, five waves of missile attacks have resulted in the “complete destruction” of the power stations from the DTEK private energy supplier, which produces 20 percent of the country’s electrical output, CEO Maksym Timchenko said in a Zoom briefing with journalists on Tuesday.

The last attack, on May 8, was particularly devastating, he said, because all of the missiles reached their targets, unimpeded by air defense, knocking out three more power stations.

The missile campaign of the last weeks has caused $1 billion worth of damage to the energy infrastructure, Energy Minister German Galushchenko said at the beginning of the month on Ukrainian television.

Despite such negative consequences Ukrainian attacks on infrastructure in Russia continue. In consequence it will soon have even less electric energy to distribute.

The Ukrainian leadership fails to learn that such actions have very damaging consequences.

It is now asking the U.S. to lift restrictions on U.S. delivered weapons so it can use them against Russian towns and cities.

During his recent visit in Kiev Secretary of State Anthony Blinken seemed to agree to that:

In a visit to Kyiv on Wednesday, May 15, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken hinted that Ukrainian forces could strike Russian territory with weapons supplied by the US, for the first time since the Russian invasion in 2022. "We have not encouraged or enabled strikes outside of Ukraine, but ultimately Ukraine has to make decisions for itself about how it's going to conduct this war," said Blinken, opening up the possibility of Western military materiel being used against Russian units located beyond Ukraine's borders.

Ukraine will inevitably use those longer range weapons to target Russian civilians. Russia will inevitably hit back by much stronger means.

Ukraine may hope for few public relation points from committing such acts but is a sure way to totally ruin the country.

Today the Washington Post and the New York Times have longer pieces on the success of the Russian campaign towards Kharkiv. They both conclude that Ukraine, despite knowing that the attack was coming, had not prepared for it.

Second Russian invasion of Kharkiv caught Ukraine unprepared (archived) – Washington Post

Russia’s new offensive across Ukraine’s northeastern border had been expected for months — yet it still surprised the Ukrainian soldiers stationed there to defend against it.

An interesting detail:

[The drone unit's] Starlink devices — satellite internet the Ukrainian military relies on for basic communication — failed, the first time it was knocked out completely for them since Russia’s invasion in February 2022.

“We were left at a certain point completely blind,” said a drone unit commander in the brigade. The Post agreed to identify him by his call sign, Artist, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol.

Blocking Starlink over the front when needed is a new Russian capability that we will come to see more often.

Russians Poured Over Ukraine’s Border. There Was Little to Stop Them. (archived) – New York Times

Ukraine’s top officials appeared to be taking the danger seriously, with President Volodymyr Zelenksy making a highly choreographed visit to the fortifications around Kharkiv on April 9.

“We have to be prepared,” Mr. Zelenksy said. “And Russians must see that we are ready to defend ourselves. And our people must understand that Ukraine is prepared in case the enemy tries to attack.”

Those preparations did little to blunt the Russian attack.

The fortifications, except for a few showpieces used for Zelenski's PR stunt, were never build even while money was paid for them:

Ms. Sykhina said that she had seen concrete blocks and machinery being moved along a road in front of her house, in what she believed were preparations for fortification.

“But in fact, from what I know, nothing was built,” Ms. Sykhina said.

Another piece of interest is about the increasingly authoritarian dictatorship in Ukraine that is run out of one man's office:

Zelensky’s chief aide flexes power, irks critics — and makes no apologies (archived) – Washington Post
Andriy Yermak, a former lawyer and film producer who runs Volodymyr Zelensky’s wartime presidential office, is arguably the most powerful chief of staff in Ukraine’s history.

In interviews with more than a dozen current and former Ukrainian officials and lawmakers, foreign diplomats and others who know Yermak or work with him, even his supporters acknowledged that he wields unusually broad authority, over governance and external communication. Some said he even controls which other officials are allowed to travel abroad and when — a detail on which his office declined to comment.

Recently, critics say, as Zelensky’s circle of advisers has tightened, Yermak has sidelined the Foreign Ministry, interfered in military decisions and brokered key deals with partners, including the United States — a task they argue should be handled by the president.

Yermak has direct lines to the most powerful people in Washington, including the national security adviser, Jake Sullivan. “We are checking in on a very regular basis,” Sullivan said of Yermak during a visit to Kyiv in March. Sullivan’s office did not respond to multiple requests for further comment.

Yermak is an entertainment lawyer and film producer without any qualification for the position he is now in.

Judging from the daily reports the Russian Ministry of Defense puts out the current losses on the Ukrainian side are pretty horrific. Today's report lists 30 destroyed Ukrainian artillery systems, 15 tracked vehicles and 1,525 Ukrainian casualties. These numbers are now regularly far higher than we have seen in previous months.

In an interview with AFP Zelenski laments that some in the West are looking for peace:

The 46-year-old former comedian wore one of his trademark khaki outfits for the interview in Kyiv — his first with foreign media since the start of Russia's Kharkiv region offensive.

"We want the war to end with a fair peace for us," while "the West wants the war to end. Period. As soon as possible. And for them, this is a fair peace," he said.

As long as the money from the West is flowing. and as long no one is challenging it, the Zelenski/Yermak team will not make any efforts to end the war.

Comments

Finally completed is the translation of “Putin’s Presser Prior to Leaving China” where the majority of Qs were related to Ukraine, not China or Putin’s trip. Those wise enough to click the link will learn a few things.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 18 2024 21:18 utc | 101

“The blusterin’ barflies are convinced Russia is inches away from conquering the whole of Ukraine, ”
Posted by: Micron | May 18 2024 21:11 utc | 98
I dont think you understand what we mean when we say “war of attrition”. It’s not about when Russia wins, it is IF Russia wins. The answer is yes. That is what we bluster about.
And since you know this, and are human, you are not AI, just a troll.

Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 21:20 utc | 102

Don’t accuse others of trolling or other names: unless you can prove it.
Posted by: Nasir | May 18 2024 15:22 utc | 1
This is the sign the Putin is getting old and soft.

Proven!

Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 21:22 utc | 103

This could grind on for a few more months at this rate.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | May 18 2024 17:18 utc | 39
`As long as it takes,’ as the PTB say.

Posted by: Laurence | May 18 2024 21:22 utc | 104

by: Ahenobarbus | May 18 2024 21:02 utc | 94
Oh I totally agree on that. Exactly how I think, too.
Also within the Kim’s halo who is impressed with a straight, honest white man that comes, helps and appreciate us, wow, a god over there. Looking forward seeing the parade for Putin in North Korea.
Africa too has a positive look. So going over the racial prejudice and in a non discriminate fashion, makes him a carrier of a just European guarantor of investment, business and help, delivered via BRICS systems, and he is not from the West.
Putin would be happy to be compared to old Yugo president Tito in 60s and 70s. He was like that way back.
He also fought Allies at the end of the WWII. Short some planes and did some shelling.

Posted by: whirlX | May 18 2024 21:24 utc | 105

Which one you suppose has an easier time recruiting, Hamas, or the Ukrainian Army?
Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 21:12 utc | 99
Russia.

Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 21:26 utc | 106

Russia.
Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 21:26 utc | 107
By far. Even per capita.

Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 21:31 utc | 107

And since you know this, and are human, you are not AI, just a troll.
Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 21:20 utc | 103
A μtroll.

Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 21:33 utc | 108

2. Not Everyone uses a fake name: I don’t use it.
3. There is no concept of free-speech at the bar.
There are more things, but why should I teach you?
Posted by: Nasir | May 18 2024 18:51 utc | 59
2: Your own goddamn problem if you choose to not do so. Not like anybody else here can verify it, or has any interest in doing so, so the claim of using a real name is conmpletely free to make (and fucking meaningless)
3: AFAIK you’re not the one to enforce it
Now, would you stop being such an useless and preachy cunt, or is that your entire schtick? Don’t you have any other fucking thing better to do than acting like a king shitlord lawyer with a chip on his shoulder over an intentionally primitive internet forum?
Methinks you’re either the blandest troll fucking ever, or you’re accustomed to having your feet kissed for some reason that doesn’t really translate here.

Posted by: Arganthonios | May 18 2024 21:34 utc | 109

RT:
Russia ‘done’ with Western Europe ‘for at least a generation’ – Lavrov
An “acute phase of the military-political confrontation with the West is in full swing,” Moscow’s foreign minister has said.
Right, so, it’s now clear as day that this was the US plan all along. But Part 2 of Operation Bring Russia Down, ie, isolating it from its East and the rest of the world, has been a miserable failure, ironically only making it stronger. It is clearly true that all Putin’s 2022-2024 statements that the US’s mission all along has been to weaken RF and its “regime” into disintegration are spot on. Thankfully, now, China has partnered with RF AGAINST the US plans and has thus protected itself against similar treatment.
It’s a US wilfully manufactured second Cold War. Funny that that’s how America engineers its top dog position by keeping everyone else down.
A year ago I speculated that Europe would “probably come back to Russia” once the SMO ended, or settled into a lower level conflict. I still believe they will sneaky trade some of what they need. And, after the impending weakening of US hegemony, and the passing-on of its present leadership, in several generations EU and RF will reintegrate.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:39 utc | 110

Posted by: karlof1 | May 18 2024 21:18 utc
Thanks, karlof1.

Posted by: spudski | May 18 2024 21:44 utc | 111

Re the recent Skylink “malfunction”.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | May 18 2024 16:51 utc | 27
I remember not long after the start of the SMO, videos surfaced of a newly developed Russian EW weapon on a truck travelling towards the front. I think it was their newly developed sattelite-interferer laser thingy. I remember thinking “Ooooo goodie. They’re gunna shoot down some US intel assets”. But no, maybe just some clandestined disabling we’re only now hearing about.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:54 utc | 112

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:39 utc | 111
if i had to be totally honest, i hope that the eu never gets to do any business again with the rf. what we in the west have done with this ukraine mess, and what especially the civilian population has done, ie NOTHING, is inexcusable anymore.
the eu is killing civilians of another state by using nazism. again.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 18 2024 21:57 utc | 113

karlof1 | May 18 2024 21:18 utc
Thanks for the translation. I have seen a part of it live and I can just say translation is making him sound like a smart ass, but live is kinda cheeky, bold and polite, still.
Medvedev shouts for a buffer at the Polish border, and Putin says no plans for Kharkov. What is that?

Posted by: whirlX | May 18 2024 21:59 utc | 114

“The blusterin’ barflies are convinced Russia is inches away from conquering the whole of Ukraine, ”
Posted by: Micron | May 18 2024 21:11 utc | 98
Said so meself a couplet of years ago
And it is so today.
`Right there waitin’ for you.’

Posted by: Laurence | May 18 2024 22:08 utc | 115

“trolling” is a general term to describe a whole lot of online misbehaviours that annoy or distract other users. There is no single definition, nor even agreement about the etymology. (Almost certainly the fishing one is correct and the little-quaint man homunculus under-a-bridge one is incorrect.)
Posted by: petra | May 18 2024 15:57 utc | 10
Almost certainly the fishing one is not correct I’m afraid. This is a good example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. Petra (Rockhead?) has confused a separate verb ‘troll’ (which is a variant of ‘trawl’) with a noun ‘troll’, a northern English loanword from Old Norse. This word entered English late (17th-18th centuries) via the Shetland and Orkney. The word means a magic spirit, a sprite or imp as the OED suggests

Old Norse and Swedish troll, Danish trold (whence Danish trylla, trylde, Swedish trolla to charm, bewitch, Old Norse trolldómr witchcraft).

This word in turn derives from an earlier Germanic root which shows sorcery and soothsaying lie at the core, giving other derivations such as English trow, troth, truce, etc

Middle English trewe and triewe, mostly in plural form trewes and triewes < Old English tréow, noun masculine (feminine plural tréwa), ‘truth or fidelity to a promise, good faith, assurance of faith or truth, promise, engagement, covenant, league’, = Old East Frisian tríuwe, Old West Frisian and Middle Dutch trouwe (Dutch trouw), Old Saxon treuwa, tríuwa, Old High German tríuwa (Middle High German triuwe, German treue) < West German *trewwa, Gothic triggwa ‘covenant’ (whence late Latin and Romanic tregua, treuga, French trève); also, in ablaut form, Old English trúwa, noun masculine and plural ‑an; = Old Norse trúa, trú, Norwegian trū, Swedish trōa: see true adj. Already in Old English the plural tréwa was often used in the sense of the singular; this became still more frequent with the Middle English plural trewes, triues, triwes, trues, and finally this, as trews, trewse, truse, truce, became the received singular (apparently in reference to the pledges or engagements given by both parties), with a new plural truses, truces, when required. Compare cherries, pease. See also trève from French, and the rare treuges after Medieval Latin treugas.

Moral of the story: experts know things, self-taught hacks know enough to sound intelligent to non-experts. You might call this the ‘journalist’ principle.

Posted by: Patroklos | May 18 2024 22:10 utc | 116

Putin says no plans for Kharkov. What is that?
Posted by: whirlX | May 18 2024 21:59 utc | 115
Does it matter?
Within three chapter of “First Person”, I realized that Putin’s every word, especially the non written scripts, are analyzed by hundreds of international intelligence organizations.
Putin said he was not going to intervene in Ukraine two days before he did.
If I were an intelligence officer who thought I had figured out how Putin thinks, I could guess either way whether he is lying or not.

Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 22:11 utc | 117

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:39 utc | 111
I am waiting counter-sanctions against the empire of lies… If they will come, they will hurt big.

Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 22:15 utc | 118

Putin is old, soft and naive, he needs to move over.
A 6 mile buffer zone is pathetic, the Ukies can fly/shoot drones and missiles well inside Russia terretory.
His SMO is a failure and a mistake, he should have gone in hard and fast or not at all, taking Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa and all the of the eastern side of the Dnipro river.

Posted by: Hannibal | May 18 2024 22:18 utc | 119

Just two comments at the mo.
# I have never expected RF to destroy the historic Russian city of Kharkov (note the qualifier ‘for now’ from President Putin) – Too much history. It will fall of its own accord in time – when RFA all around and AFU on its last legs. If the remaining residents get too hungry due to inadequate supplies – well they can always boil and eat the remaining Kraken.
# Anyone observing the optics since SMO began can figure out that Yermak is the puppet master and always by Zelenski’s side. Yermak also has a close link to the Boxer of Kiev – ready to step in, possibly on Sullivan’s nod.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 18 2024 22:18 utc | 120

Oriental Voice | May 18 2024 18:23 utc | 55
***… long dragged-out talks that will ultimately show the world the west has lost its hegemony.***
Depends what you mean by “the west”.
If it is the debt-finance /corporate / oligarch owned shit-show of a “western” political and economic establishment (ie. a multi-country cabal of traitors, mass-murderers, perverts and criminals) you mean, then they will not have lost if the WEF, WHO, Agenda 2030 and other related organisations are not totally smashed, with their leading members preferably executed. Far from losing, these perpetually lying shape-shifters will *continue* to indulge their sadistic megalomania, just under a slightly amended wrapper.
Russia and China are endorsing, not condemning, such organisations and agendas.
Till that genuinely changes, nobody outwith corrupt ruling circles would be wise to consider themselves safe, anywhere.

Posted by: Cynic | May 18 2024 22:19 utc | 121

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:39 utc | 111
Most Europeans are cowardly and racist b#stards. Not all, but most. Usually same people who take everything from MSM granted, about 70%.
It’s hard to believe Russia can have a relation with these people. Especially the political and elite class are the lowest quality in the history of Earth.
Europe will not have a century for new relation with Russia. Europe will be muslimized quickly. Perhaps the next European class of politicians and elites will be muslims, who will again regenerate the relation with Russia.
Russia keeps doors open for European individuals, who are sick of the degeneracy in Europe.
Europe is done, facilitated by the US empire. Won’t go to all the degeneracies going on, everyone knows what is being talked about. And often originating from Anglo embassies, and European elites who have been trained in Anglo universities.

Posted by: unimperator | May 18 2024 22:22 utc | 122

Putin said he was not going to intervene in Ukraine two days before he did.
Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 22:11 utc | 118

Russia was not ready. He changed is mind when he received the information that the agression and invasion against the two Republics was scheduled for the 8th of March.
It was enough to see his mood when he announced the SMO.
Remember: a first proposal by the RFCP was repelled by the Duma. Before being accepted in a hurry.
Only people like μtroll never change their mind.

Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 22:23 utc | 123

Posted by: Hannibal | May 18 2024 22:18 utc | 120
With such a handle you’re in no position to advise. Elephants across the Alps? Yeah no worries! We’ll go in hard and fast!

Posted by: Patroklos | May 18 2024 22:23 utc | 124

At the end of b’s article is a quote from Zelensky which hasn’t been picked up by posters but, to me, speaks volumes:-
“We want the war to end with a fair peace for us,” while “the West wants the war to end. Period. As soon as possible. And for them, this is a fair peace,” he said.

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 18 2024 22:27 utc | 125

unimperator | May 18 2024 19:06 utc | 64
*** The new mobilization law in Ukraine came into force today.***
In a few days, Zelensky’s period of office expires…
Can he then be conscripted and sent to the front line?

Posted by: Cynic | May 18 2024 22:29 utc | 126

Don Firineach | May 18 2024 22:18 utc | 121
Yep, they wiggle on who is closer to who – the USA or Germany/EU. English make the usual mess there, happy that French will commit at some point – and Klitch is too close to Germany and he makes jelly side fall down as he turns to a German influence and contacts. Of which one is Schroeder. Kaganites and Khazarians fight tooth and nail to prevent this. It probably ends as a Scarface but in real life.

Posted by: whirlX | May 18 2024 22:29 utc | 127

german crackpot member of parliament weighs in
wanting to edge us all closer to starting WWIII, eh?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/member-scholzs-party-calls-nato-095558936.html
Member of Scholz’s party calls for NATO to defend Ukraine’s skies from its own territory
….”In the current military situation, I believe it is necessary and responsible to deploy German anti-aircraft missile troops on NATO territory on the border with Ukraine in order to protect the airspace over Ukraine’s west – for example, with Patriot systems,” Weingarten said in an interview with Spiegel…
…..However, Rolf Mützenich, the leader of the SPD parliamentary faction, has recently spoken out clearly against NATO’s protection of Ukraine’s airspace. “The SPD parliamentary faction will not agree to this,” Mützenich said…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 18 2024 22:32 utc | 128

Posted by: Micron | May 18 2024 21:11 utc | 98
Wow! Lots of casualties there! Clearly Ukraine is winning and it is only a matter of time before they repel Russia back to the 2022 borders.
What is the likely timescale for Ukraine’s achievement of this magnificent victory, in your view?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 18 2024 22:32 utc | 129

I am waiting counter-sanctions against the empire of lies… If they will come, they will hurt big.
Posted by: Naive | May 18 2024 22:15 utc | 119
Yeah, RF has thus far been very minor about economic retaliations. I wonder if RF and China are not concocting cooperative strategies to do further but quiet/slow economic damage to the US — a sort of financial maskirovka!

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 22:38 utc | 130

by: Ahenobarbus | May 18 2024 21:02 utc | 94
Oh I totally agree on that. Exactly how I think, too.
Also within the Kim’s halo who is impressed with a straight, honest white man that comes, helps and appreciate us, wow, a god over there. Looking forward seeing the parade for Putin in North Korea.
Africa too has a positive look. So going over the racial prejudice and in a non discriminate fashion, makes him a carrier of a just European guarantor of investment, business and help, delivered via BRICS systems, and he is not from the West.
Putin would be happy to be compared to old Yugo president Tito in 60s and 70s. He was like that way back.
He also fought Allies at the end of the WWII. Short some planes and did some shelling.
Posted by: whirlX | May 18 2024 21:24 utc | 106
Que?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 18 2024 23:02 utc | 131

a – MOST of you still can’t see the forest for the trees.
b – The objective of the SMO is not defeating the Banderites. That has already happened.
c- The objective is to completely neuter the US & its vassals, to confine their influence to within their own borders, to strip away from them economically their overseas possessions.
d- So, discussing tactics is just a waste of time.
Posted by: OldFart | May 18 2024 20:47 utc | 90
Cliché Alert … Cliché Alert …
a – To see the whole picture, both forest AND trees are necessary of study. In case you hadn’t noticed, forests are nothing but the sum of the trees. Duh. Fuck I hate that cliché. It is always used by people who think they see bigger and wiser than others, when in fact they just can’t be fucked sorting out the details of how big things come about through lots of little things.
b- *ONE* object of the SMO is to KEEP attriting the Banderites towards zero. They are NOT fully defeated yet. Stop this mindless trope that “its over”.
c- The SMO is ONE aspect, and a means to an end, in the bigger strategy of reducing US hegemony, as you rightly state. RF could hardly achieve your “c” unless/until they mop up “b” and bring the SMO to some place of unconditional Western surrender.
d – Discussing tactics is indicative of the progress of a + b + c. Lots of tactics make up a broader operation which is manifesting a strategy to achieve certain goals.
I don’t know why you accuse “MOST” here of failing to see it as I’ve just described. Yes, some are short sighted, but certainly not “MOST”.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 23:25 utc | 132

Siddhartha@126…he also said for the Ukraine the war will never end untill Russia returns to the 1991 borders….grounds for a peace deal?
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 18 2024 23:25 utc | 133

Ahenobarbus | May 18 2024 23:02 utc | 132
Tellin’ ya. Non-Alignment movement rises up in a new skin.

Posted by: whirlX | May 18 2024 23:28 utc | 134

he also said for the Ukraine the war will never end untill Russia returns to the 1991 borders….grounds for a peace deal?
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 18 2024 23:25 utc | 134

and notice how he never speaks about the population that lived there in those 1991 borders. does that peace deal include those people or not?

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 18 2024 23:28 utc | 135

As long as Slavs keep killing each other this operation is a huge success…heheheh

Posted by: Seth Benjamin | May 18 2024 23:29 utc | 136

/cheep
This is a beautiful space on the interwebs. (: I cannot argue as much as others in typical ways here but I do what I can to tend the spirit. In painful times it is easy and expected to breakdown. My silliness is what I can do to balm your spirit and invite you to get back up when ready.
Thank you all for your indulgence! All of your different perspectives help us hash out these earthshaking events and I learn so much from your contributions — even the ones I may initially resist or disagree. So please, keep sharing! (=
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | May 18 2024 23:30 utc | 137

So, discussing tactics is just a waste of time. Talk about rebuilding the West. Start by saying there are ONLY 2 genders, male and female, and any idea to the contrary is a mental illness. Find a wife and make babies.
Posted by: OldFart | May 18 2024 20:47 utc | 90
Too late for the west
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

Posted by: Newbie | May 18 2024 23:31 utc | 138

Starlink . Yes Rf developed a EW system just for them. Can’t recall the denoted name. There was video of Russians using starlinks. Elon denied any had been sold to russia. Elon had also geo fenced russian areas to not work . So I imagine on the grayzone front they do. Russia had gleaned lots from starlinks, they could track signals to find command posts on the front and larger command centres that co-ordinated battles from the rear. I imagine they also had captured intact with code access units to see everything the enemy was doing. All this was OK to leave I guess, until next generation missiles came along that could use the gps guidance like the drone boats and there was a point where the pentagon took over some access to starlink as financiers they wanted to do more than Elon would allow. His other business became targets, I figure he worried about. If russia has taken starlink out it means the longer range missiles and drone boats became a problem.lem enough to deal with as they use such systems for targeting. There was a lot of testing multiple EW systems , the fastest iteration of tanks and BMP have 3 or more EW types mounted to suppress various threats

Posted by: Hankster | May 18 2024 23:33 utc | 139

Putin is old, soft and afraid. Besides, he was a germanophil for a long time. He trusted the West, he trusted A. Merkel. He does not understand that this is a total war.
He is clearly not capable of finishing this job. So many Russians died because of his errors.

Posted by: vargas | May 18 2024 23:34 utc | 140

The CCP is so conflict averse that Putin is like an action hero to them. Facing down the imperialist monster largely alone and succeeding. I think Xi really appreciates the service.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 18 2024 21:02 utc | 94
Funny! In addition, I think of China as like a submarine, quiet and hidden and powerful just waiting in the depths. Whereas the US is like a battleship, proudly, boldly, overtly steaming along on the surface showing off its might.
I suspect that China’s current plan is to duplicate and better Taiwan’s TSMC (the jewel of the island which the US and the Taiwan economy couldn’t do without) so that when opportune, China can disable TSMC. After all, China bombing or closing down TSMC is within its own recognised territory!!! Who could complain?!

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 23:38 utc | 141

This is the sign the Putin is getting old and soft.
Posted by: Nasir | May 18 2024 15:30 utc | 2
Putin is old, soft and afraid.
Posted by: vargas | May 18 2024 23:34 utc | 141
Sock puppet, shared talking points, ai, or trolls?

Posted by: UWDude | May 18 2024 23:39 utc | 142

Hankster 140
Jammers have always been cheaper and are faster tp develop to defeat comms than the receivers and transmitters that are vulnerable to be jammed.
Another reason the empire should have stayed out of this!
Russians becoming expert, leading edge jammer engineers!

Posted by: paddy | May 18 2024 23:40 utc | 143

“On May 11 I had analyzed the Russian move towards Kharkiv and concluded that it was designed to create a ‘sanitary zone’ along the boarder, not to take Kharkiv:
….
In a recent press conference President Putin of Russia confirmed this:”
No he did not, he said “As for [the seizure of] Kharkov, there are no such plans for now.”
For now! For today! Tomorrow plans may change.

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | May 18 2024 23:49 utc | 144

@ Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:39 utc | 111
i agree with you, but as someone else said afterwards, it might take muslim leadership in europe to be the ones to make the bridge.. the euro elites are very misguided with their loyalties to usa-uk….
@ Siddhartha | May 18 2024 22:27 utc | 126
aside from sean the leprechauns reply to you, zelensky is as usual talking thru his ass.. if you want to know what an ass says – listen to the ass.. he is a useful jackass too, but not for the ordinary people of ukraine…

Posted by: james | May 18 2024 23:54 utc | 145

Alert:
Hey Guys & Gals
It is proper decorum in a civilized bar to IGNORE Trolls.
I repeat:
It is proper decorum in a civilized bar to IGNORE Trolls.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:04 utc | 146

Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 23:38 utc | 142
It is just a misunderstanding in how something is seen. Action hero is good, but his purpose is not.
XI is thankful to Putin for buying the time to China to overdevelop and that is not even measurable in any money. Some people do not understand it yet. It is a spiritual obedience.
Because of the tech and mil development China is close to be a first megapower country handled well and for the people. Also Putin is the only white European with whom Xi and Kim and about 100 others can work and trust as a stable trade guarantee.
So he is a hero there for them. In comparison to the West both are awashed with money and resources and Asia and West Asia put together renders really big, big money.
At some point China will clean its seas off the Empire’s military crap, politely and systematically, by TSMC is going to the Chinese side maybe pretty soon. Taiwan is getting crazier lately.
And Americans warned that they would bomb TMSC first, Chinese said nothing about it.

Posted by: whirlX | May 19 2024 0:04 utc | 147

@ Arganthonios/110
Excellent! Kudos! Couldn’t have said it any better!

Posted by: skull ☠️ | May 19 2024 0:05 utc | 148

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 18 2024 23:25 utc | 134
Posted by: james | May 18 2024 23:54 utc | 146
If the quote from b’s article is correct then Zelensky has revealed what the ‘West’ wants.

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 19 2024 0:09 utc | 149

@ Siddhartha | May 19 2024 0:09 utc | 150
i am sure the quote is valid, so yes – zelensky – head puppet for the west is saying what the puppeteers want… that is what his pay is for.. it certainly isn’t for helping ukraine..

Posted by: james | May 19 2024 0:11 utc | 150

for those who have not been paying attention:
President Putin at the Q&A [h/t karlof1]
We’ve talked about this many times.
When our troops were stationed near Kiev, we were told something by our Western partners: you can’t sign documents if a gun is held to your head from the opposite side. “What should I do?” – from our side, we asked. “We need to withdraw our troops from Kiev.” We did it. The next day, they threw all our agreements in the trash and said: well, now we will fight to the end. And their Western curators took a position that is now known to the whole world: to defeat Russia on the battlefield, to inflict a strategic defeat on it.
It wasn’t us who behaved like this, it was our partners who behaved like this. This was also said by officials, including the head of the Ukrainian delegation during the talks first in Minsk and then in Istanbul. The then Prime Minister [of Great Britain], Mr. Johnson, came and recommended that Ukraine continue fighting. Otherwise, Mr. Arakhamia said, namely, he was at the head of the delegation – today he heads the ruling party’s faction in the Ukrainian parliament-otherwise, he said, all military operations would have been stopped a year and a half ago. After all, he said this publicly, in my opinion, at a meeting with journalists. No one really doubts it.
In other words, let’s draw a line under this part of the answer to your question: we were once again deceived. Now we need to understand who and how we should deal with, can deal with, who and to what extent we can trust.
Of course, we are now analyzing everything that is happening in this regard in this area, and we are certainly looking at what is happening around the meeting announced by everyone in Switzerland, in Geneva – in my opinion, they are going to meet there. Of course, we are not going to discuss any formulas that we don’t know about.
But we have never refused to negotiate, unlike the Ukrainian side. It is they who have withdrawn from the negotiation process; they have declared that they are going to inflict a strategic defeat on us. And they said that “we will fight to the end”, in fact, not to the end, but to the last Ukrainian. They did it all with their own hands.
We have the basis for the negotiation process, what we agreed on in Istanbul, and what was actually signed by the head of the Ukrainian delegation, under an excerpt from this voluminous document. He initialed it. We have the document lying there, its signature is worth it. What other additional conditions are there that we have never heard of or know anything about?

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:13 utc | 151

Hmm another thread made pointless. This is more a function of idjits eager to post anything at all even if it is a shot at a perceived troll than a post discussing the topic of the OP.
This site is becoming useless made so by egoistic old men who imagine that their response to some spambot is more important than thousands of humans killing and being killed. What is the matter with these types who consistently respond to these bots instead of the subject b posted on?
It doesn’t take much of a brain to deduce that fact that since the facile shit-stirrers are nearly always first cab off the rank whenever b puts up a post, the forces of darkness must be using some type of sniping technology along the lines of those aimed at ticket selling and auction sites to achieve this.
Therefore why react to them? You can shout and scream until yer blue in the face but you won’t alter the POV of those over-indoctrinated drongos, so why bother?
Ahenobarbus in particular, what the fuck do you think you are achieving by filling the thread up with such purposeless tosh? One can tell from the time it took for the fisher-person to react that they were both surprised and gratified by your stupid series of responses.
There is only one way to treat these baits – ignore them, yet every day it seems some poster or other chooses that this will be the thread he/she takes the bait in. Tomorrow it will likely be someone else making sure yet another thread gets screwed. Still the idiotic responders will claim they were operating ‘for the good of the site’ when it is plain for all to see that they were not.
Quite frankly MoA has become useless as a place for sensible dialog about anything,not because of the baiters who are easily dealt with simply by ignoring them as their posts are usually short and always idiotic as well as being largely irrelevant. The thread breaks down as this one has when regular posters allow themselves to be diverted by the tosh.
There are any number of issues worthy of discussion in b.’s post for me it is why has the Russian Federation decided not to take Kharkov.
When Russia initially went into this region in 2022, they and we, were talking about how great it was to see these Russian speakers getting liberated from galician oppression. We watched vids of old ladies kissing Russian soldiers and thanking them as they exchanged all their hyrvnias for rubles. When Russia pulled back to straighten up its defenses for the Surovikin line I am sure I wasn’t the only MoA observer concerned about the future for those residents who had shown such support for the Russian Federation. Were they evacuated too? If they weren’t what would happen to them and since it was highly doubtful that the nazis would be in a hurry to exchange people’s rubles for hyrvnias how would they live? What about their pensions? Russia had transferred the elderly across to their pension plan, would the fascists be anything like as accommodating?
It seems to me that the return of Russia after 18 months absence will make the locals far less pleased to see them this time. Even if people would rather be part of Russia than the illegitimate fascist entity, only a dingbat would reveal that publicly given what happened last time. In fact I have little doubt that any ukie who felt left in the lurch by Russia because of the Surovikin ‘line-straightening’ strategy would probably decide that Russia was indeed the enemy.
That may account for Russia’s reluctance to take Kharkov – a combination of the reality that the second largest ukie city had become populated by many west ukies (ie fascists) and the Russian heritage populace were wary of their future should Russia not remain in their region permanently for the way the Russians are talking of only wanting the area for a ‘buffer-zone’ could mean that they could be negotiated back to a western ukraine dominated state in the eventual peace plan.
My chief interest in this conflict is the same as my main interest in any conflict, that is what is the best thing for most humans who live in the affected zone getting fought over. The strategically sensible withdrawal in late 2022 makes the best final outcome for humans in the Kharkov region difficult to discern.
Living under fascism as an ‘othered’ human seems obviously to be the worst outcome but now, post Surovikin that may not be so as it could actually be dying under fascism as an ‘othered’ human unless the human in question plays his/her cards very close to their chest.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 19 2024 0:15 utc | 152

Posted by: unimperator | May 18 2024 20:52 utc | 91
I’ve come to the conclusion that whatever is left of the UAF is not anything remotely resembling a professional army.
Remember the video of the dead UAF soldiers in Berdichi left to rot in the fields. What professional army does that?
They’re more akin to jihadis now. Instead of dying for 72 virgins they’re now meat sacrifices for the American Military Industrial Complex.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2024 0:16 utc | 153

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 19 2024 0:15 utc | 153
Six paragraphs about trolls, those who respond to trolls, and how trolling has made MoA unbearable.
Six, SIX off topic paragraphs, derailing thread about how trolls derail threads.
Tries to justify with a bunch of on-topic later.
Actions speak louder than words. Show us how not to let trolls derail a thread, dont tell us to not do what you are doing

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 0:20 utc | 154

Posted by: james | May 19 2024 0:11 utc | 151
Why wouldn’t peace help the Ukrainians?

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 19 2024 0:29 utc | 155

I didn’t check it on Sputnik Internacional (in English), nor on Sputnik Mundo (in Spanish), but a report has just come out on Sputnik Brasil*, the content of which coincides with my point of view: a protection zone for Bolgorod includes the taking of city of Karkiv. In other words: it is not the objective to take Karkiv, but it will be taken! *Interview, Anatoly Matviychuk.

Posted by: Elber | May 19 2024 0:31 utc | 156

Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 21:39 utc | 111
This isn’t the 90s – there is no ‘Operation Bring Russia Down’.
Isolating it from EUrope, yes. But it’s much too late to isolate it from the rest of Spykman’s ‘Rimland’, as happened in the first Cold War.
As for future cooperation, maybe, or maybe not. It’s definitely not the time to speculate about that in public.
Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 23:38 utc | 142
wtf – Why on earth would China destroy a top cutting-edge company on an island it aims to re-integrate? That’s like the stupid western idea that China could “start a war” against Taiwan. Because Chinese will happily kill their own brothers, destroy one of their provinces…

Posted by: smuks | May 19 2024 0:32 utc | 157

@ UWDude | May 19 2024 0:20 utc | 155
Do you agree, or not agree, with my #147 above?

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:35 utc | 158

@ Siddhartha | May 19 2024 0:29 utc | 156
well indeed it would but it is all cheap talk until some serious negotiation actually takes place.. and that appears impossible with zelensky..

Posted by: james | May 19 2024 0:38 utc | 159

wtf – Why on earth would China destroy a top cutting-edge company on an island it aims to re-integrate? That’s like the stupid western idea that China could “start a war” against Taiwan. Because Chinese will happily kill their own brothers, destroy one of their provinces…
Posted by: smuks | May 19 2024 0:32 utc | 158
Once they have technological manufacturing parity, they no longer need taiwan’s chips, and could do a real war, not SMO, when conquering Taiwan, if cultural integration, or straight NATO occupation/ military coup happens.
China imports $97B from Taiwan every year.

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 0:40 utc | 160

spudski | May 18 2024 21:44 utc | 112–
Thanks for noticing. You’ll also want to read “Lavrov’s remarks at the XXXII Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defence Policy” and the bonus article featuring Ryabkov I tacked to the end.
whirlX | May 18 2024 21:59 utc | 115–
Thanks for your reply. Putin’s in charge. Medvedev was in China too. Lavrov alluded to part of what was discussed security-wise that can be read at the above linked article.
Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:13 utc | 152–
Thanks for the reiteration. Seems like portions of Russian media are as thick-headed as some barflies on what’s been said on that aspect of the SMO.
Debsisdead | May 19 2024 0:15 utc | 153–
Thanks for your rant, one that I decided not to make earlier. I tried posting some news from Marat Khairullen’s Telegram but it wasn’t allowed while all the troll spitum hit the barroom floor. Funny how his Telegram was never blocked before. As you note, the trolls won handily on the first page of this thread.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 19 2024 0:40 utc | 161

OT. Mea culpa
Oleksandr Usyk wins by split decision over Tyson Fury!
The judges’ scorecards. The first: 115-112 for Usyk. The second: 114-113 for Fury. The third: 114-113 … Oleksandr Usyk!
Rumour that V. Klitchko considering coming out of retirement … to fight Usyk!

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:41 utc | 162

Do you agree, or not agree, with my #147 above?
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:35 utc | 159
What does this have to do with the thread topic?

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 0:43 utc | 163

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 19 2024 0:15 utc | 153
I prefer posts that are succinct.

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 19 2024 0:44 utc | 164

I would say nature, not Russia, disabled Starlink. The largest solar storm for 25 years was happening at the same time…

Posted by: Surfer Dave | May 19 2024 0:46 utc | 165

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 19 2024 0:15 utc | 153
I wouldn’t be too worried about the ethnic Russians in East Ukraine turning again RF for their earlier abandonment. And certainly not to the point of RF deciding not to (eventually) retake Kharkov.
1, Blood is thicker than dissapointment.
2, The Donbassians probably UNDERSTAND RF military’s methods for their earlier retreat in the cause of longer-term victory.
3, The ethnic Russians in Kharkov are made of sterner stuff for their motherland than the flighty Ukies.
4, Russian shelling and electicity disabling of Kharkov was probably designed to cause the West-looking wimps to flea as IT SEEMED RF might invade at any moment.
5, Kharkov’s collective memory as Soviet citizens goes back to 1991, and since then, how has Kiev treated them? Ha, no way would they choose 2024 Kiev running their future lives over modern day Moscow!
6, Kharkov was in fact the birthplace of the Azov Brigade, the Kharkov Football Club hooligans. So who would ever want them back!

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 19 2024 0:47 utc | 166

b – The objective of the SMO is not defeating the Banderites. That has already happened.
Posted by: OldFart | May 18 2024 20:47 utc | 90
Jacques Baud repeated time and again that the denazification was done when the azovs surrendered at Azovstal. LOL, total discredit on that one.
Of course debanderisation (I was about to write deratisation…) is the same as denazification. It is under way. Currently: dekrakenisation.

Posted by: Naive | May 19 2024 0:50 utc | 167

@ UWDude | May 19 2024 0:43 utc | 164
Your cut at Debsisdead #153 at your #155 …
… as the thread has been fu€ked up by trolls and egoistic fools feeding them.
You have not yet responded to my query.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:52 utc | 168

/cheep
I saw your Substack translation of the Putin & Xi meeting, karlof1 at 102. Thank you for making it available early before official national portals. My big take away is it is better to have an honest rival (Russia or China) than be allied to a deceitful big man on campus (USA or EU).
This issue of good faith actors is pivotal. It is almost like perceiving all international relations as war by other means, and all war is to be waged by deception, is a self-destructive spiral. This contrasts immensely as war perceived as continued international relations by other means.
A subtle comparison of stance from self-sacrificing self-respect and sincere competition to selfish envious paranoia and malicious manipulation. You see its reflection in so many current theaters of conflict. I’d almost say there’s a weird pattern to it. 🙁
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | May 19 2024 0:54 utc | 169

You have not yet responded to my query.
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:52 utc | 169
I agree, I am not supposed to. But sometimes trolls act like I have to answer them, and it is really hard to resist their trolling / derailing efforts. Especially when they address me directly.

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 0:55 utc | 170

The mobilization law, coming into effect 3 days before Ze’s presidency ends.
There’s no way this is coincidental.
What’s the plan?
There’s protest by truckers, probably others that are less visible.
Something will happen, soon. Free drinks for whoever correctly predicts what!

Don Firineach | May 19 2024 0:41 utc | 163
Winner will be Mayor of Kiev…or new President of Ukraine?

Also thanks and agree with Debsisdead.

Posted by: smuks | May 19 2024 1:04 utc | 171

Can anyone explain why the Russians have not destroyed the transmission points where European electricity lines cross into Ukraine? Even if repairs are made, regular strikes should be able to greatly diminish this supply.

Posted by: HH | May 19 2024 1:04 utc | 172

Can anyone explain why the Russians have not destroyed the transmission points where European electricity lines cross into Ukraine? Even if repairs are made, regular strikes should be able to greatly diminish this supply.
Posted by: HH | May 19 2024 1:04 utc | 173
As i said earlier in this thread.
Russia does not want the citizenry of Ukraine alarmed or enraged enough to volunteer. They want recruiting in Ukraine to be hell.
That is why there is still young men at bars in the western ukrainian cities. The war is a far way place.
This is common. Though we sit here and think about the war, there are many in war torn countries, who dont really think about it at all, because they dont have to, and their city has hardly been bombed or disrupted. Half of almost any population, war or not, knows very little about politics.
Put on top of that, knowing your enemy will downplay all losses, and you can decide either to try and use blatant propaganda to show the enemy is losing to the masses, or you can use judo, and make their lies your advantage.

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 1:11 utc | 173

Posted by: smuks | May 19 2024 0:32 utc | 158
>>>This isn’t the 90s – there is no ‘Operation Bring Russia Down’.
Isolating it from EUrope, yes. But it’s much too late to isolate it from the rest of Spykman’s ‘Rimland’, as happened in the first Cold War.<<< Whaaat? How can you say that? It is blatantly obvious that the US wants to "destroy Russia" *as Putin has stated over and over*. Ok, my Cold War parallel was an overstatement. But economically so, it has happened (90%), and as Lavrov said, it is a future situation. Ok, it's a Proxy Trade Cold War. >>> As for future cooperation, maybe, or maybe not. It’s definitely not the time to speculate about that in public.<<< Lol. I beg your pardon??? MoA is nothing but a dive of public speculations. Are you drunk? LMAO at that statement. >>>wtf – Why on earth would China destroy a top cutting-edge company on an island it aims to re-integrate?<<< Sure, seems counter-intuitive. But as a lesson about who really is the boss, and to cripple US chip supplies? It might well bring the Taiwan gvt into line if China then holds the technology at home. After all, who put TSMC there in the first place? I'll bet Putin and Xi are discussing joint microchip production this very day. To take that piece off the Taiwanese chess board would be great leverage. >>>That’s like the stupid western idea that China could “start a war” against Taiwan. Because Chinese will happily kill their own brothers, destroy one of their provinces…<<< Nah, it's just one company, a few sheds and robots, some independent income for the island. It's not like a war ... although it might feel like it to the US! One little missile into TSMC ... what's Taiwan or the US gunna do? In essence, it's an internal matter for Greater China. I admit, its unlikely to happen. 🙂

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 19 2024 1:15 utc | 174

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4671482-as-american-global-hegemony-ends-multi-alignment-rises/
The world has become so extreme that an article such as the above stands out as unusual because of its simple logic. Smaller, poorer nations will be treated more fairly amidst multipower competition. End of US hegemony? It can’t come soon enough.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 19 2024 1:17 utc | 175

Thanks B, for the summary of key issues at present. These all matter, and it;s intriguing what may happen next on the ground, what gets hit next etc. How fast will Russia proceed, is Ukraine close to imploding militarily?
To me though it’s the bigger strategic games that worry me most – as in what comes next, what might the west do to ramp up the aggression threat against Russia in Ukraine – eg the bilateral security agreements in place with European nations etc, the potential for nato troops on the ground, and how far will Russia go in implementing their words they will respond to them ….. now is an acute phase of where things go from here. Especially given no matter how things unfold in Ukraine there is no possibility of agreements or stability between russia/china and the US/west going forward. So what’s next on that journey is what concerns me, or leaves me guessing the most about these unknowns iow. What might the US UK Europeans have up their sleeves in the near future? ( I have no idea myself, maybe nothing)
But US v Russia is THE MAIN GAME being played out here, not week to week moves / changes on the ground in Ukraine (yes?)
——————–
via RT who reports

An “acute phase of the military-political confrontation with the West is in full swing,” Moscow’s foreign minister has said
Russia won’t view Western European countries as partners again for “at least one generation,” Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has predicted. The diplomat remarked that Moscow and the West are already locked in a confrontation that has no end in sight.
Top Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin, have repeatedly described Moscow’s ongoing military conflict with Kiev as a proxy war waged by NATO against Russia. Evidence of this, the Kremlin says, is the material aid, the training, and the intelligence that the US and many European countries have been providing to defend Ukraine.
[ note – PLUS the major security agreements Russia sought from US/Nato in Dec 2021 which were directed — these were and still are major critical issues that are not being resolved and liekly will not be “in a generation or more” — so, no matter what happens in Ukraine or with Zelensky, even assuming Russia holds sway, this US v Russia security dilemma remains the biggest point of contention – besides sanctions and trade etc ]
Speaking on Saturday, Lavrov cited an article by Russian political scientist Dmitry Trenin, who has written that “Europe as a partner is not relevant for us for at least one generation.” The minister said that he “can’t help but agree” and that Moscow is “feeling this in practice almost daily.” The senior Russian diplomat also claimed, without elaborating, that “many facts speak in favor of such a prognosis.”
“The acute phase of the military-political confrontation with the West continues [and] is in full swing,” Lavrov said, pointing to the nature of the narratives currently prevalent in the US and Europe.
RYABKOV!!!
In an interview with TASS on Friday, Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia Sergey Ryabkov compared Western elites to delinquent youths and provocateurs intent on escalating tensions to the brink of a “catastrophic collapse,” and with no regard for the consequences.
Speaking of the work of Russian diplomats in the West, the official revealed that it is “in a crisis-management mode, aimed at preventing an escalation into a really massive conflict.”
NATO is “a group in which we feel not an ounce of trust, which triggers political and even emotional rejection” in Moscow, Ryabkov told the media outlet.
He said that, no matter who comes out on top in the US presidential election in November, “no chance for the improvement of the situation can be seen, considering the fundamental anti-Russian consensus of the American elites.”
https://www.swentr.site/russia/597827-lavrov-europe-no-partner-for-generation/

When you combine what we know abotu China and the recent bonding visit the above speaks volumes abouyt how the russians see this battle with the USA et al.
And imho Ukraine doesn’t rate, but it is still a critical point of contention that Russia MUST WIN.
And the US and Europe believe they MUST NOT LOSE.
So imho we are nearer a major kenetic military showdown that we might not realise is the case. (?)
Like one day many people (B included) were saying no way will Russia invade Ukraine … it’s all a negotiation etc then suddenly bam, they did.
What might the West suddenly do if they think they are in deep shit in Ukraine right now?
What might Russia do, once they do it?
imho, I believe using tactical nukes are very much on the table as an option for Russia – depending on what happens going forward, in the short term now, and longer term. It all depends on what trhe US decides to do.
And they are all psychopaths and delusional = so anything might happen next. Because they are being continually corenered in multiple ways around the world …. from Ukraine, to Gaza, to Africa, MENA, to sth america, to China, to ASEAN, to India and with their own BS elections and citizenry close to revolt in some quarters. …… things are not going well anywhere for the USA elites.
The record DOW at 40,000 is of course a Mirage …. the US is Bankrupt, financially and morally. This denotes an impending crisis of consciousness where anything could happen.
This is what Lavrov and Ryabkov are speaking to imho. (?)

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 19 2024 1:18 utc | 176

Ermak has demanded Syrsky hold Volchansk at all costs. Hence, reinforcements has been transferred out of Kharkov toward Volchansk. Looks like they are scared of losing it, and what will ensue after that east of the Donets river, now completely isolated from mainland Ukraine. It could even jeopardize eventually Kramatorsk-Slavyansk agglomeration.
unimperator | May 18 2024 19:14 utc | 65
This “at all costs” policy is going to end in another disaster for the AFU. It was tried at Mariupol, Artemyovsk/Bahkmut and again at Avdeyevka. Don’t they ever learn?
Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 18 2024 19:35 utc | 71
Coming back to this interesting info (thanks!).
Same we’ve seen in Bakhmut and elsewhere, also the nonsensical Rabotino meat assaults.
Ze/Er still trying to reduce AFU fighting capacity?
Kramatorsk – I still hope that, similar to Kharkov, the RuAF won’t need to fight for this beautiful old city. So far, only a limited number of towns have been destroyed, none of them historic afaik.

Posted by: smuks | May 19 2024 1:18 utc | 177

To me though it’s the bigger strategic games that worry me most..
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 19 2024 1:18 utc | 177
Which is why I said a few threads ago, that it is better to lose 200,000 men in ten years and win, than 200,000 men in one year and win, and definitely better than 200,000 in a year and losing.
Russia is taking on the world’s superpower. It must be extremely cautious.
People talking about this battle in Ukraine, like its the final war between Russia and USA, are straight fools. People advising throwing caution to the wind because movies make war look easy, are straight fools. No movie or series could ever do justice to the life and death struggle of war, and its complexities, there simply is not enough time!

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 1:26 utc | 178

Posted by: smuks | May 19 2024 0:32 utc | 158
This isn’t the 90s – there is no ‘Operation Bring Russia Down’.
——————
I think that is stunningly patently false. And disconnected from reality of the last 20+ years of diplomatic/think tank and political rhetoric and actions. It defies belief.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 19 2024 1:35 utc | 179

Well, I’m a bit confused, B. I thought Russia’s objective was to DENAZIFY and DEMILITARIZE Ukraine?
“The Ukrainian leadership fails to learn that such actions have very damaging consequences.
It is now asking the U.S. to lift restrictions on U.S. delivered weapons so it can use them against Russian towns and cities.”
As long as Ukraine is not denazified and demilitarized, those weapons will be used liberally.
If Russia wishes to fulfill its objectives it will likely have to take ALL of Ukraine, particularly if long range missiles are introduced into the picture.
I’m thoroughly enjoying the lies by US MSM via Forbes, Reuters and Newsweek, who seem to be the WORST offenders. Reading that garbage makes one think the UkroNazis are taking out Crimea, the black sea fleet and that Russia is losing 1000’s of soldiers. US MSM is truly disgusting. Propaganda to make Americans think their 61 billion wasn’t stolen from them, laundered through Ukraine back to our MIC and politicians
God i wish Americans would wake the hell up, B!

Posted by: Kay | May 19 2024 1:46 utc | 180

@ unimperator (123) and james (146)
How would Muslim leadership in Europe change a thing wrt relationships with Russia? And after what the USA and UK did to create this rift in the first place?

Posted by: joey_n | May 19 2024 1:59 utc | 181

Russians becoming expert, leading edge jammer engineers!
Posted by: paddy | May 18 2024 23:40 utc | 144
That’s not a recent development. However, no matter what your engineering prowess may be, it’s hard to be effective unless you have some signals to analyze. The Iranians monitored US drones, and captured a Global Hawk as a result, so the US really ought to know not to expose its technology unnecessarily to a capable opponent. Provide enough samples, and somebody is going to reverse engineer all they need to know to screw up your system.
I have no idea how pro-active the US is about such things, but if it were me running around pissing off the world, I’d do it with obsolete tech and only roll out the good stuff when serious conflict is underway. Of course, it’s very difficult to implement hardware updates on satellites once they’re in orbit… will we see a spate of new Starlink launches?

Posted by: Honzo | May 19 2024 2:03 utc | 182

Once they have technological manufacturing parity, they no longer need taiwan’s chips, and could do a real war, not SMO, when conquering Taiwan, if cultural integration, or straight NATO occupation/ military coup happens.
China imports $97B from Taiwan every year.
Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 0:40 utc | 161
If China is able to produce as good as or better chips than Taiwan, there will be no need for war. They will simply flood the markets, the Taiwan economy will collapse, and the residents will kick the traitors out and beg the mainland to forgive them and treat them like they have been ordinary Chinese citizens all along.
Once China is capable of producing something, they can easily ramp up production and destroy the market for foreign competitors. Keep in mind that China does not need to profit off of chip sales, it can absorb billions of dollars in losses because A) it’s a socialist economy and B) giving the world free cutting edge-chips is infinitely cheaper than a kinetic struggle against other Chinese people.

Posted by: Honzo | May 19 2024 2:19 utc | 183

Dina mentioned truckers blocking the roads around Odessa, seems like an anti mobilization strike of some sort. Not many volunteering for front line KP duty, can’t blame them.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 19 2024 2:22 utc | 184

there will be no need for war…
Posted by: Honzo | May 19 2024 2:19 utc | 184
That’s assuming NATO doesnt do something incredibly belligerent, like a coup, or emergency deployment of weapons, or a color revolution that installs a zelensky vowing to uphold the rules based order and begin imposing sanctions or blockade on China, maybe in conjunction with some bs in Hong Kong.
I mean, there was not quite yet need for Russia to go to war before the Maidan, but ten years later, here we are.
Regardless, yes, China is doing its best to be able to make 3mm chips a couple years behind taiwan/America/Netherlands, and it would be nice if Taiwan integrated with China culturally, and USA just went away. Its just the manufacture of its own lithographs has multiple security dimensions, one of them being removing the threat of having high tech chips removed from their market, as has already been happening.
Somebody posted an excellent paper on the topic a few months ago. It was written by a pro-western think tank, but it also got into thr details, and what USA is already doing to try and stop China from gaining chip parity, and it looks like, it will only be a few years before they do. USA has already sanctioned many chinese companies, simply for getting to advanced.

Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 2:30 utc | 185

not a fan of Putin, but I respect his mastery and the fact Russians have chosen him
contrary to what you may regularly read here in the comments, he is neither too old, nor weak, nor too soft
on the contrary, he’s intelligent and aware of the fact that he and his people are faced with a bunch of decerebrates run by psychopaths
so he is just trying to avoid a (nuclear) escalation that would be fatal for mankind, and therefore also for Russia
is that so difficult to understand?
Love life, and my children even more, so I’m grateful to him.

Posted by: ccc | May 19 2024 2:32 utc | 186

So, discussing tactics is just a waste of time. Talk about rebuilding the West. Start by saying there are ONLY 2 genders, male and female, and any idea to the contrary is a mental illness. Find a wife and make babies.
Posted by: OldFart | May 18 2024 20:47 utc | 90
The problem is that the craziness is all downstream from the leadership. By one means or another, we have to be rid of the current ruling class. So long as they are in power there will always be some kind of craziness being pushed. At the least getting rid of them will require a period of instability at

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2024 2:33 utc | 187

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 23:25 utc | 133
If you don’t like the forest for the trees metaphor, perhaps logistics and tactics would be suitable.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2024 2:36 utc | 188

a – MOST of you still can’t see the forest for the trees.
b – The objective of the SMO is not defeating the Banderites. That has already happened.
c- The objective is to completely neuter the US & its vassals, to confine their influence to within their own borders, to strip away from them economically their overseas possessions.
d- So, discussing tactics is just a waste of time.
Posted by: OldFart | May 18 2024 20:47 utc | 90
Russia has had so many good things happen that I don’t think it could all have been predicted. The behavior of the political West has been remarkably stupid. Europe has self neutered itself with a little help from the United States. As for the US, we seem to be headed for some kind of financial bankruptcy. That problem, and the pure stupidity of our diplomacy. Currently we are getting all upset over Russian and China in an alliance, even as we created a political environment that all but forced them to align, while at the same time weakening our allies in Europe.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2024 2:39 utc | 189

Once China is capable of producing something, they can easily ramp up production and destroy the market for foreign competitors. Keep in mind that China does not need to profit off of chip sales, it can absorb billions of dollars in losses because A) it’s a socialist economy and B) giving the world free cutting edge-chips is infinitely cheaper than a kinetic struggle against other Chinese people.
Posted by: Honzo | May 19 2024 2:19 utc | 184
Yes true, and also … it can limit its exports of said technologies (and RF energies) to unfriendly countries. I’ll bet, right at this moment, Xi and Putin are compiling a big long list of all things they can collectively starve America of in the coming decades. 🙂 Bring it on, I say.
I don’t see China fighting Taiwan, ever. I see their efforts as being via threats and soft power and Yuan power, and ant other levers to get the fkn Yanks to lose interest in it.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 19 2024 2:45 utc | 190

Similar lines to what I posted above — a crisis point has arrived (is coming soon) ?
The West is worried, that’s why Blinken made an urgent visit to Kiev
The US Secretary of State’s sudden trip to Ukraine belies the West’s concern about recent Russian advances
By Dmitry Drize, political observer at Kommersant FM

US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken admitted during his visit to Kiev this week that the situation in Ukraine has deteriorated.
Blinken’s arrival was unexpected, and it betrayed the critical stage currently reached in the conflict. The US is urging Kiev to carry out an effective mobilization, and seems to hope society will reorganize itself in some way.
At almost the same time, Olaf Scholz was addressing journalists. The German chancellor announced a €7 billion ($7.6 billion) bailout for Ukraine. Previously, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the threat of nuclear war could be even greater now than during the Cuban missile crisis, more than 60 years ago.
There is no point in entering into a polemic on this issue, but the “critical situation” thesis is being heard more often and louder.
And now the (consequences) have arrived, however late. At the same time, the G7 meeting in the picturesque town of Brindisi in Italy is just a month away.
Then there will be a high-level conference on Ukraine at the Bürgenstock in Switzerland,
and the NATO anniversary summit in July.
And there will have been no major battlefield or political successes to celebrate
[ending with]
So we come to a very simple conclusion. If there are no results yet, that means they have to be achieved somehow. The question is how. The answer is obvious: by responding to the raising of the stakes. We would just like to point out that no one is talking about a peaceful scenario; the next round of confrontation has arrived.
Perhaps it will lead to a sudden peaceful solution, but we should not be too optimistic. Another thing we would like to point out is that Western Europe is practically powerless without America, no matter how much Emmanuel Macron threatens to invade. And secondly, according to the West, Ukraine cannot, or at least should not, lose.
https://www.swentr.site/news/597787-blinken-made-visit-kiev/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 19 2024 2:47 utc | 191

God i wish Americans would wake the hell up, B!
Posted by: Kay | May 19 2024 1:46 utc | 181
Kay, that is indeed an admirable wish, and many have it too. However, in America and YOUR country and MINE, 90% of the citizenry are happier within their dreamworld than to wake up and face the reality. Consider that Hollywood still churns out its movies of big bad evil Russians, Chinese, NK, Arabs etc. Can you imagine how far off in the future it would be till most Americans think “Gee, maybe Russians and Chinese are not as bad as I thought”? Have you ever had (or witnessed in another) a serious case of cognitive dissonance, like a born again Christian realising that his whole religious worldview is a crock of shit? It is easier to keep the fantasy than to wake up. Sad but true.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 19 2024 2:59 utc | 192

Zelensky’s comment about “peace”. Are all the allies on the same page? What I mean is are all partners equal?
We are aware that US/UK are sometimes at odds, then you have France trying to take the lead catching others out flat-footed, back tracking and then you have the classic Germany type fool enduring every single betrayal and damage while grinning and pretending that this was done in consultation. Then lastly, the outliers Baltic, Italy et al.
My personal belief is Russia is the only Country that will determine what peace looks like, judging by Lavrov’s and VVP’S comments.

Posted by: Suresh | May 19 2024 3:09 utc | 193

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 18 2024 23:25 utc | 133
If you don’t like the forest for the trees metaphor, perhaps logistics and tactics would be suitable.
Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2024 2:36 utc | 189
Huh? Logistics and tactics is NOT anything like a similar metaphor for “not seeing the forest for the trees”, or “the wood for the trees” as is often used as an inverse metaphor when likening shortsightedness versus a broader vision. I’ve been a timber miller, so I always look at ALL THREE — wood, trees, forest.
And fyi, in warfare, logistics are a subset of tactics, not some alternative reality with which to compare it.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 19 2024 3:11 utc | 194

3rd example — add to it what Putin has said recently (see Karl etc)
via RT
Ukraine has increased attacks on Russian border regions using NATO-supplied missiles and bombs

The West is risking further escalation by arming Ukraine and encouraging it to strike Russian territory, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday.
Ukrainian strikes on Russian cities have intensified since Kiev began losing ground in Kharkov Region.
“The profile of the American and British handlers of the [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky regime is clearly visible behind these barbaric attacks,” Zakharova told reporters. “They are not only providing longer-range missiles and heavy weapons, but are giving the green light for their use against Russia.”
“Once again, we would like to unequivocally warn Washington, London, Brussels and other Western capitals, as well as Kiev, which is under their control, that they are playing with fire. Russia will not leave such encroachments on its territory unanswered,” the spokeswoman stressed.
https://www.swentr.site/russia/597810-west-playing-with-fire-moscow/

There’s the red line and threat. As I said elsewhere yesterday, Russia will sooner than later need to act on those retaliation threats or be seen as a hand-waving Chicken Little of no consequence …. I believe they will retaliate, how I do not know — that’s for them to work out and see what happens.
A crisis point appears inevitable now … and soon. ?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 19 2024 3:12 utc | 195

The Russians captured their first NATO soldier.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/U8xdYFW8wof0/

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | May 19 2024 3:28 utc | 196

That’s assuming NATO doesnt do something incredibly belligerent, like a coup, or emergency deployment of weapons, or a color revolution that installs a zelensky vowing to uphold the rules based order and begin imposing sanctions or blockade on China, maybe in conjunction with some bs in Hong Kong.
I mean, there was not quite yet need for Russia to go to war before the Maidan, but ten years later, here we are.
Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2024 2:30 utc | 186
The US can initiate a war with anyone at any time for any reason or no reason. The discussion was about China going to war. The question I’m raising, if you think it through, is whether the US has any motivation to go to war over Taiwan if Taiwan is not the the leading chip maker in the world. There’s no prize, even if the US could win such a war, which they have proven to their own satisfaction that they cannot. The other things- trying to slow Chinese progress and accelerate the transfer of technology back to the US- can be done, will be done to the extent that the US can without war. War could not improve the outlook for the US in this regard. As we see with Russia, that bloc is sanction proof, and war simply spurs their development. At the same time, the US economy would crash without cheap Chinese goods, most of which the US is as far from being able to produce itself as it is from being able to keep up with Russian artillery shell production. The US must avoid even a real trade war with China until it is able to on-shore basic industrial production, and that’s years, perhaps decades, away.
Fortunately, the Russians and Chinese have an interest in the Empire achieving a soft landing. Global nuclear war isn’t good for anyone. Russia, China and Iran are and have been for years, able to crash the US economy in a matter of weeks by minimally kinetic means. The freaking Houthi can do it. The problem with doing so, aside from the well-deserved human suffering of the ordinary (I do not say innocent) citizens of the west, is that it would very likely provoke the nuclear holocaust that the Axis of Resistance wants to avoid. They are working toward a soft landing, and part of that work is maintaining some hope in American elites that they can hang on to at least their own country, and perhaps rise to global power again. It’s not in anyone’s interest to make that crew of psychopaths feel there is no alternative to going out with a bang.
If you look at Putin and Xi as being, in essence, skilled hostage negotiators, it’s much easier to understand what they do and say. As one of the hostages, I appreciate their patience and restraint, and hope that in the end the scumbags that currently rule the west will be offered a bus to Idlib.

Posted by: Honzo | May 19 2024 3:38 utc | 197

HH | May 19 2024 1:04 utc | 173
Can anyone explain why the Russians have not destroyed the transmission points where European electricity lines cross into Ukraine?
IMVVHO. Cost. The EU *had* been sucking almost free electrons out of Ukraine, now they are forced to donate and or sell electricity into the Ukrainian network.
That keeps pressure on the price of electricity across the EU.
As winter comes, energy prices seasonally rise, the EU “generosity” towards Ukraine dims. The EU is tiring of entitled Ukrainian welfare recipients, and they will tire of having to supplement the Ukrainian grid.
Energy pricing is something EU populations are sensitive to. Governments fear that disgruntlement.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 19 2024 3:41 utc | 198

Russia is in direct military conflict with the US.
They just both haven’t removed their masks yet.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 19 2024 3:50 utc | 199

The Russians captured their first NATO soldier.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/U8xdYFW8wof0/
Posted by: Carlton Meyer | May 19 2024 3:28 utc | 197
Well, French Foreign Legion, so no, not a “NATO soldier” at all.
But very interesting admissions on the video by him regarding Macron being personally in command to send the FFL to *JOIN the AFU under contract*.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 19 2024 3:54 utc | 200