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May 15, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-140
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Long,Long ago, maybe 50 years, I came to the conclusion “We are in the hands of idiots.” I never imagined it would get this bad. Posted by: Bagration | May 16 2024 0:22 utc | 101 ZH has a posting up with the title
Reports are the Sky news posting has been pulled and as some other barfly noted, lots of hypocrisy calls for hope he is ok from EU leaders……do any of them have a clue how they are being played? Fico didn’t die so who is next to be the target to push the fear of empire point? Posted by: psychohistorian | May 16 2024 0:32 utc | 102 @24 napoleon Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 16 2024 0:36 utc | 103 Let’s be clear about Fico. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 16 2024 0:39 utc | 104 Ukrainian telegram channels going crazy. Supposedly massive Ukrainian attack on Crimea and other Russian assets and a good number of the missiles got through. So much for Ukraine running short on ammo and missiles. Posted by: Activist Potato | May 16 2024 0:51 utc | 105 Honzo | May 15 2024 23:36 utc | 95 Posted by: smuks | May 16 2024 1:27 utc | 106 I wish I could be confident about no war with China. Here in Australia the war drums are beating. Ithink the USA would go to war if they dared. Trouble is that unless they destroy Russia taking on China is impossible. Posted by: Watcher | May 16 2024 1:33 utc | 107 So far, western MSM has not made a peep about this that I have seen in my MSM feeds. Posted by: Activist Potato | May 16 2024 1:38 utc | 108 I wish I could be confident about no war with China. Here in Australia the war drums are beating. Ithink the USA would go to war if they dared. Trouble is that unless they destroy Russia taking on China is impossible. Posted by: HERMIUS | May 16 2024 1:38 utc | 109 What an idiot! Zelensky on Fico incident…lolol Posted by: HERMIUS | May 16 2024 1:48 utc | 110 Watcher Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 16 2024 2:04 utc | 111 All this West narcism regarding the Xi-Putin meeting is as usual the West overinflated value they think they have. Posted by: Trubind1 | May 16 2024 2:18 utc | 112 After picking myself up off the floor in much laughter induced pain, I remembered an old film (but forget the casting details) called THE MOUSE THAT ROARED. think that Luxemburg was the Mouse. Posted by: Honzo | May 16 2024 2:32 utc | 113 RE: “Blinkered says “Ukraine cant hold elections for president until all Ukrainians are able to vote” Posted by: Trubind1 | May 16 2024 2:36 utc | 114 We are not idiots. Posted by: Pause | May 16 2024 2:48 utc | 115 Story on Southfront with vids and link to sat pics about the Ukraine missile attack on Crimea and other Russian targets. Posted by: golddigger | May 16 2024 2:54 utc | 116 @ Posted by: Bagration | May 16 2024 0:22 utc | 101 Posted by: BroncoBilly | May 16 2024 2:55 utc | 117 ICJ case: Posted by: Trubind1 | May 16 2024 3:04 utc | 118 @post 116 My finger hit send too soon.. Posted by: golddigger | May 16 2024 3:05 utc | 119 Same problem. Posted by: Pause | May 16 2024 3:22 utc | 122 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yhsGpuc910v Posted by: Pause | May 16 2024 3:26 utc | 123 Just passing crazy live footage from China. Posted by: Trubind1 | May 16 2024 3:40 utc | 124 Posted by: Raumati | May 16 2024 0:09 utc | 100 Posted by: badjoke | May 16 2024 3:58 utc | 125 @ Trubind1 | May 16 2024 3:40 utc | 124 with the video link of the Putin going to China and meeting Xi…thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | May 16 2024 3:59 utc | 126 Posted by: smuks | May 16 2024 1:27 utc | 106 Posted by: badjoke | May 16 2024 4:04 utc | 127 ZH has a psting up with the title
So, when does the other shoe drop?…before May 20? Posted by: psychohistorian | May 16 2024 4:20 utc | 128 I never imagined it would get this bad. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 16 2024 4:59 utc | 129 The BBC can really turn a phrase, eh?
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 16 2024 5:04 utc | 130 The BBC can really turn a phrase, eh? Posted by: Urban Fox | May 16 2024 5:39 utc | 131 $61B for a one song private concert … Blinked is a more profitable rock star than Taylor Swift : he should think about a ŝwitching job ^^ Posted by: Hiro Masamune | May 16 2024 6:12 utc | 132 … (Greenwald) Indeed this is very similar with how the Iraq war turned out: “everyone” was on board, until they weren’t. … Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 6:25 utc | 133 It’s about preserving the whole Empire creepshow intact, pure latrinepolitik. Posted by: too scents | May 16 2024 6:40 utc | 135 Posted by: Activist Potato | May 16 2024 0:51 utc | 105 Posted by: unimperator | May 16 2024 6:45 utc | 136
Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 6:52 utc | 137
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22832 Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 6:53 utc | 138
Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 6:55 utc | 139 Posted by: too scents | May 16 2024 6:40 utc | 135 Posted by: kspr | May 16 2024 6:55 utc | 140
Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 6:57 utc | 141
Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 7:02 utc | 142 I’m hearing expectations radically lowered on USA state media lately, regarding Ukraine. Hard to read why: dancing the Lviv Limbo one notch lower, at “openly bleak.” Larry Johnson mentions the fall of Saigon. You know those rooftop helicopter images are shaking the empty minds of hegemonic nincompoops.
https://sonar21.com/ukraine-aint-rockin-in-the-free-world-its-getting-rocked/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 16 2024 7:23 utc | 143 I’m hearing expectations radically lowered on USA state media lately Posted by: too scents | May 16 2024 7:33 utc | 144 Posted by: too scents | May 16 2024 6:40 utc | 135 Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 7:38 utc | 145 Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 7:38 utc | 145 Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 7:44 utc | 146 Posted by: KMRIA | May 15 2024 16:48 utc | 29 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 16 2024 7:59 utc | 147 Martyanov in his recent video had some insight in the 2S35 Koalitsya, which is now mass produced. Koalitsya has a maximum effective firing range of 70km for artillery shells, including Krasnopol. So pretty soon Patriot PAC-3 systems will be taken out by artillery alone. Posted by: unimperator | May 16 2024 8:07 utc | 148 Posted by: the pessimist | May 15 2024 17:16 utc | 35
I think you’re wrong, Chechnya is a very good analogue for the current war in Ukraine. It could’ve been Georgia, instead of Chechnya, but stupid Western elites wanted to place a bet this time they could defeat Putin, so the correct analogy is Chennya. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 16 2024 8:33 utc | 149 Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 16 2024 0:02 utc | 98 Posted by: Avtonom | May 16 2024 8:34 utc | 150 Posted by: Honzo | May 16 2024 2:32 utc | 113 Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 16 2024 9:10 utc | 151 Regarding the utterances of Ukrainian leaders: when you are panicking you are liable to blurt out stupid things. Sometimes it is the truth Posted by: MFB | May 16 2024 9:50 utc | 152 Some info on the man who shot Fico: Posted by: neutrino | May 16 2024 9:57 utc | 153 Interesting. And the author is taken in by the story that the assassin was pro-Russian although he was actually a member of a paramilitary group celebrating the Nazi collaborator Father Tiso. Posted by: MFB | May 16 2024 10:12 utc | 154 “Posted by: Napoleon | May 15 2024 16:28 utc | 24
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22835 Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 10:37 utc | 158
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Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 10:46 utc | 160 Trubind1 @ 124
Yes, amazing, great powers parading their snazz like from another century. Don’t want to pee in the punch bowl but picture this in black & white, on grainy film, in the 1930s. Russia and China preparing for world war. There are several messages here but that’s one of them. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 16 2024 10:54 utc | 161 Posted by: MFB | May 16 2024 10:12 utc | 154 Posted by: kspr | May 16 2024 10:59 utc | 162 Video of Fico assassin at a demo supporting Ukraine (on (fearlessjohn telegram). That didn’t take long. Daily Willy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPNItTQEkC0 Posted by: Anonymous | May 16 2024 11:38 utc | 164 Updated turtle tank analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gWlb0N2jNc Posted by: Anonymous | May 16 2024 11:48 utc | 165 I believe it was the fictive Duchy of Fenwick. A delightful book. (Honzo) Posted by: malenkov | May 16 2024 11:59 utc | 166 @ Pause Posted by: malenkov | May 16 2024 12:01 utc | 167 Don’t know if this works, first time I’m trying it, but it is an attempt to link to that incredible movie: Posted by: Avtonom | May 16 2024 12:05 utc | 168 No, it didn’t work. Sorry. Anyway OT and sorry for that as well. Posted by: Avtonom | May 16 2024 12:05 utc | 169 Posted by: oldhippie | May 15 2024 20:52 utc | 71 Posted by: MrH | May 16 2024 12:23 utc | 170 On the Fico murder attempt : everything point at an ideologically motivated shooter that carried his own gun. No proven links with anyone for now. Wait and see, local police forces should find a lot of material about this guy cause he’s kind of a wannabe a local figure and in case of any external involvement, inquiries will have to target his close relationship circle ; it might take some times. Posted by: Savonarole | May 16 2024 12:23 utc | 171 A bit OT, but US politicians have been in the habit of using anti-war and anti-establishment anthems for their own self-aggrandizement since at least the Raygun administration. I think Jimmy Carter first showed them the way, he was all man-of-the-people and then governed war party too, very like Clinton, but right after Jerry Ford. One should expect they will do that, some of them more clueless about it than others. Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 12:47 utc | 172 What exiting times were’re living in 🙂 Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 12:50 utc | 173 Posted by: Anonymous | May 16 2024 11:48 utc | 165
Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 12:54 utc | 174 Crimea is being critically bombed. Posted by: vargas | May 16 2024 12:57 utc | 175 Posted by: vargas | May 16 2024 12:57 utc | 175 Posted by: Mario | May 16 2024 13:01 utc | 176 Posted by: malenkov | May 16 2024 11:59 utc | 166 Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 16 2024 13:27 utc | 177 P.s. I recommend to watch his earlier videos on the topic as well. Note that perspective is analytical, not cheerlederish, so don’t bother if you are looking for affirmation, rather than thinking. Posted by: Newbie | May 16 2024 13:29 utc | 178 LIVE: Chinese President Xi Jinping holds a welcome ceremony for Russian President Vladimir Putin Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 13:33 utc | 179 On a different topic, the Georgian mess about the local version of FARA act has reach a new low-level with EU MEP siding with the protesters : how the west is telling Georgians they don’t need a law against foreign influence by sending foreign influencers baffled me … those cunt are shameless. Posted by: Urban Fox | May 16 2024 13:34 utc | 180
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/98295 Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 13:52 utc | 181
Posted by: Down South | May 16 2024 13:53 utc | 182 Posted by: Trubind1 | May 16 2024 3:40 utc | 124 Posted by: KingCobra | May 16 2024 14:05 utc | 183 Posted by: Savonarole | May 16 2024 12:23 utc | 171 Watch the videos. There are several. Fico’s security detail stood down and let the shooter empty his pistol. No lone gunman here. Posted by: oldhippie | May 16 2024 14:43 utc | 185 https://t.me/CyberspecNews/53159
Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 14:46 utc | 186 On the subject of beneficial reforms:
Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 14:50 utc | 187 Posted by: canuck | May 16 2024 14:22 utc | 184 Posted by: Savonarole | May 16 2024 15:10 utc | 188 From Ukranian Stana.news: Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 16 2024 15:53 utc | 189 Robert Fico has been shot and his injuries life-threatening. Posted by: Passerby | May 16 2024 16:12 utc | 190 Passerby @190 Posted by: Ezzie | May 16 2024 16:18 utc | 191 Posted by: Passerby | May 16 2024 16:12 utc | 190 Posted by: Justpassinby | May 16 2024 16:31 utc | 192 LIVE: Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping hold a joint press conference 40mins Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 16:46 utc | 193 Who all prepared the assassination of Fico? We can guess whether he is on the hit-list of the psycho Budianova from Kiev. Posted by: Josef Schweik | May 16 2024 16:52 utc | 194 A key feature (and strength) of western capitalism/ imperialism is that ‘leaders’ are interchangeable Posted by: averros | May 16 2024 17:00 utc | 195 Assuming these articles reflect reality, I think an interesting dimension is the desire to simplify the pilot tasks given their training is necessarily perfunctory and life expectancy so low. Note the article claims that the iPad is the source of navigation information.
Posted by: anon2020 | May 16 2024 17:00 utc | 196 apologies for link at #193 no english dubbing Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 17:04 utc | 197 Posted by: Savonarole | May 16 2024 12:23 utc | 171 Posted by: Moscow Exile | May 16 2024 17:04 utc | 198 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 16 2024 15:53 utc | 189 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 16 2024 17:07 utc | 199 |
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