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May 12, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-136

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

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Posted by: Perimetr | May 12 2024 19:30 utc | 59
«Is it a good idea to appoint a bureaucrat with no military background to be Defense Minister in the middle of a war?»
Like in most other countries the Ministry of Defense does administration and rear-echelon logistics, the military is commanded by the General Staff. There is a very weird exception because only a few years ago the Queen of the UK delegated her command of the military, a very big and sudden change, and not to her Prime Minister, but to her Minister of Defense,

Posted by: Blissex | May 12 2024 20:38 utc | 101

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2024 19:40 utc | 69
What exactly do you not like in the quote you brought?
Yes, Shoigu was close to Putin (at least was, we have no idea how close they are now). He was Putin’s partner in multiple hiking trips that were photo sessioned for some reason, in 2018 and 2021. Yes, Shoigu was a minister for the whole period the Russian Federation exists, first as a minister for emergency situations and then as a MoD. These are all facts, easily googleable.
So yes, removing this person from the minister position is probably a big thing, and probably is an indicator that the performance of Shoigu was worse than expected.
“not a single try to actually understand” – yes, that’s called “news reporting”. Tries to understand are called “opinion pieces”. These are usually not mixed together, because news reporting should be unbiased, or at least appearing so.

Posted by: AI_Revenger | May 12 2024 20:40 utc | 102

How extraordinary to think that, a year ago, the merry band of blustering’ barflies was assuring us that Ukraine would never dare attack Russia territory proper. Serious-sounding people were confident that Kiev would sink under a hurricane of fire the moment it tried shelling one of the brand new oblasts, which had just completed their referenda.
On an ironical note, it’s funny how Russia has, with this Kharkov offensive, single-handedly destroyed the arguments of the Muh Attrition crowd.
Posted by: Micron | May 12 2024 15:09 utc | 3
Who was saying that? Especially about the new Oblasts? Strawman.
And no, if an offensive happens, it does not mean the years before were not attritional. It means the attrition phase is over, and mop up time has come, because one side won the attritional phase..

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 20:46 utc | 103

Posted by: AI_Revenger | May 12 2024 20:40 utc | 102
in the german piece it is said that putin “fired” shoigu.
this is the quality reporting i do not like.
thats not news reporting, thats exactly an “opinion piece” masquerading as a “news report”.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2024 20:47 utc | 104

The appointment of First Deputy Prime Minister Andrei Belousov as Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation is “very bad news” for Ukraine. Ukrainian economist Alexey Kushch writes about this.
In his opinion, now “everything is heading towards a sharp increase in the dynamics of the Russian military-industrial complex and an increase in military production in the Russian Federation.”
Kushch believes that Belousov played a role “in creating a growth model for the Russian economy, deep structural transformations and adaptation to sanctions.”
“It’s very bad news for us, since our ministerial positions are antipodes to Belousov’s policies with an agenda of vulgar liberalism during the war. You can evaluate the results yourself,” the economist wrote.
“>https://t.me/remylind21/21492

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 20:50 utc | 105

The council of the elders. Shoigu moves from a position of working according to instructions, to helping formulate geopolitical policy which the president will mostly act on.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2024 20:36 utc | 100
Not only: a key role is this one:
“Shoigu, in his capacity as secretary of the Security Council, will serve as the president’s deputy within the commission on the military-industrial complex.”
So… even closer to Putin as ever. And the weapons and ammunitions productions are most important, as anyone can guess.

Posted by: Naive | May 12 2024 20:55 utc | 106

Moonie @ 96

Such an erudite comment. You must be proud of yourself.

Is that supposed to be a snarky putdown? Who wouldn’t be proud of being erudite? Beats being proud of being stupid.
I know, don’t feed the trolls. Front lines collapsing, troll army has received marching orders.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 20:56 utc | 107

Regards Mr. Putin’s re-assignments of his key officials:
Here in the U.S. it is common to change many cabinet-level posts (heads of major departments) at the end of a four-year presidential term.
Those officials that have demonstrated great promise are assigned to more prestigious or consequential jobs, those that are tired or have become political liabilities are politely asked for their resignations. This is common practice.
Some other commentators noticed that Shiogu’s replacement, Mr. Andrei Belousov, has little military experience, but has a lot of economic policy and industrial production background.
The big surprise to the world re: SMO and the Sanctions from Hell was how rapidly Russia increased wartime production, and adjusted to all the sanctions. That’s economic and industrial policy in action.
While it’s likely that Russia is preparing for a great deal more war, it’s a certainty that Russia is preparing for a major increase in industrial production.
=== A bit more background on Belousov which I bet you’ll find interesting ===
This is the first two paragraphs of an official announcement by the Russian Government News Service dated November 2023:

The 10th meeting of the Intergovernmental Russian-Chinese Commission on Investment Cooperation chaired by First Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Andrei Belousov from Russia’s side and by Deputy Prime Minister of the State Council of China Ding Xuexiang from China’s side was held in Beijing.
“Today Russian-Chinese relations of comprehensive partnership and strategic cooperation have reached an unprecedented high level and continue developing in all areas. They are built on a firm foundation of mutual respect, equality, and trust, non-interference in each other’s internal affairs, and cooperation in each other’s development and prosperity,” Andrei Belousov noted.

==== For your further consideration, this was copied from LightYearsFromHome’s post above (thanks LYFH!):
Andrey Belousov — the new Defence Minister of Russia
▪️ Andrey Belousov was born in 1959 in Moscow. His father fought in World War II in the air force.
▪️ Since 2020, he has served as the First Deputy Prime Minister of Russia.
▪️ Held positions including Minister of Economic Development (2012-2013) and advisor to the President.
▪️ Belousov is known for advocating government intervention in the economy and supporting state-led initiatives.
▪️Educated in economics and holds a doctorate, specializing in economic planning and analysis.
▪️Played a significant role in shaping Russia’s economic policies during his tenure in various governmental roles.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 12 2024 20:58 utc | 108

I know, don’t feed the trolls. Front lines collapsing, troll army has received marching orders.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 20:56 utc | 107
Very well said!!!

Posted by: Naive | May 12 2024 21:06 utc | 109

Every failure to advance is on purpose.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 12 2024 16:56 utc | 23
That is correct. In attritional warfare you only advance if the costs will be very low, otherwise you grind until a pocket opens up.
Sorry it’s frustrating for your theories you peddle here, but that is the way attritional warfare works. And if it takes ten years, it takes ten years.
Winning the war, Losing 200,000 men in ten years is better than winning the war and losing 200,000 in one year, and definitely better than rushing in foolishly and losing 200,000 and the war in one year.
Attritional warfare is very slow, and conservative, now a part of fifth gen warfare, which is also slow, and conservative, as other “battlespaces” develop on a slower timeline than war usually does.
And attritional warfare can be very frustrating for defenders. They are all pinned down on the front, slowly bleeding away, hoping for the attacker to do something stupid, like charge their defenses.
That is why there would often be soldiers sent to try and insult the other side into attacking.
Not only is attritional warfare conservative, it is also relatively easy to implement compared to other forms. All you have to do is fire/behead your hothead commanders who make assaults.

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 21:10 utc | 110

Belousov’s selection as head of the MoD can also been seen as VVP’s preparation for his possible successor following this current term of office.

Posted by: Ciaran | May 12 2024 21:11 utc | 111

The reassignment of Shoigu doesn’t sound like a demotion to me. Myself, I’m curious to find out what happens to Patrushev.

Posted by: malenkov | May 12 2024 21:15 utc | 112

Ciaran @ 111

Belousov’s selection as head of the MoD can also been seen as VVP’s preparation for his possible successor following this current term of office.

Please not an other professor in charge, last one in charge of Russia caused all the trouble the world is in now.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 21:17 utc | 113

the new defence guy..ideal for cutting off the west from any remaining stuff that Russia supplies to the west ..eg the uranium that actually insane USA seems to be thinking of themselves to stop…that sensible people realise would be disastrous to USA power energy supplies….and for any revenge activities in response-retaliation to seizure of the 300billion foreign reserves and other seizures…ie consolidating a total war economy against the west…..

Posted by: Jo | May 12 2024 21:18 utc | 114

@Ciaran | May 12 2024 21:11 utc : Good observation.
Belousov was posted to the China-Russia econ cooperation role, and it’s tough to imagine a more crucial job, a more crucial relationship for Russia’s long-term prosperity.
If Belousov’s tough enough – not just technically brilliant, but emotionally tough like Putin is, he might make a great successor. And of course, Putin certainly knows what he’s looking for.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 12 2024 21:22 utc | 115

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 21:10 utc | 110
Ukies should have fallen back in 2022 in order to stretch out RF supply lines and open up opportunities for counterattacks and even encirclements of a very undermanned RF force. Instead they held the line at a 10-1 artillery disadvantage and the RF just sat there and dropped shells on their heads. Now they do not have the time equipment or trained personal for that to work. They played a losing hand and should have at least read On War once to avoid this trap they are now in.

Posted by: badjoke | May 12 2024 21:24 utc | 116

Not smart to give time to build up defence production, they will lose this way.
NATO is incapable of building up defense production to any significant level. The 1940’s are long gone.
The Nato population is one billion, the Russians are 160 million.
BRICS is over 3 billion.
forget to consider that the development of newer more destructive weapons
Kinzhal, Zircon, Sarmat, Poseidon… Russia’s the one with all the new toys, or hadn’t you noticed?
Maybe their relationships arent as tight as we think.
Russia doesn’t need to call it’s friends when it’s kicking NATO’s ass all by itself.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 12 2024 21:34 utc | 117

malenkov @ 112

The reassignment of Shoigu doesn’t sound like a demotion to me. Myself, I’m curious to find out what happens to Patrushev.

Peter AU1 @ 100 nailed it, it’s a promotion to the strategic inner circle.
I’m not the least bit of a Kremlinologist but Patrushev always came across as very sharp, direct, and staunch, I don’t think he fell out of favor. Maybe he’ll be made the guy who picks up the red phone when a nervous Pentagon calls. Unless they’ve already promised that to Medvedev.
What’s going on in the world now is very serious, it’s existential to Russia, after two years of trial by fire Putin is shuffling people around to where they are best fit but keeping everyone, MoD too. There’s no margin for mistakes anymore, you have to figure Putin knows what he’s doing and trusts his crew or you don’t. Compare that to the grotesque cockfight that is the Zelensky regime.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 21:40 utc | 118

Placing a military man as the head of National Security and a civilian in charge of the Defense Department says what it says. The national security system team pretty much runs the government in the external international arena in the US. The US has had military men in that postion in times past. Sometimes they have civilian hacks like what we have now. A hardcore Zionist in that postion now is for obvious reasons.
If Russia uses the same platform then it is a decided military response to events outside Russia in the international global arena towards its enemies. Much of the reponses in the international arena will be done with an eye towrds miltary solutions. Sort of like what the US did with the L. Fletcher Prouty’s The Secret Team where he was the military focal point officer of directing military resources into CIA operations. The CIA was able to conduct many of its large operations due to having these DOD resources.
A case in point would be Indoneisa in the the 1960’s where a massive amount of DOD resources were placed into the CIA’s hands in a massive secret operation that got no press. See JFK vs. Allen Dulles: Battleground Indonesia.
There were oil wells in the area with oil so pure you could take it out of the ground and run it in you engine with no refining. I wonder what they were fighting over?
With a civilian banker in charge of the DOD they appear to be looking to see where the money is going IMHO. We may start reading about the rooting out of corruption more often and that will be a boost to their military services.

Posted by: circumspect | May 12 2024 21:41 utc | 119

Has anyone else noticed that since the fall of Avdiivka that Donetsk city hasn’t been “shelled”, and that the attacks have increased in Belgorod direction?
Posted by: BroncoBilly | May 12 2024 16:07 utc | 15
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Not at all true. It was hit just last week and several times in the last few months. The US ATACMS can go that far from outer unsecured areas.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 21:46 utc | 120

Posted by: vargas | May 12 2024 19:06 utc | 49
Fuck off, agent provovateur who is supporting the ukronazis.
Posted by: Naive | May 12 2024 20:09 utc | 88
Agreed.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2024 21:50 utc | 121

^

The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Kirill Budanov, laid the blame for the failure in the Kharkov direction on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Syrsky.
“>https://t.me/ZandVchannel/112903

A grotesque cockfight with USA/UK/NATO/EU gangsters shouting, calling bets, and throwing their money down.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 22:02 utc | 122

– only solution would be to replace traumatized, easily triggered fearful human politicians with fearless AI for strictly rational and balanced policy and decision making. Read: no powerplay, no ego, no fear of losing elections.
Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | May 12 2024 14:41 utc
As someone who has built standalone “no guardrails” AIs, I note that AIs seem to have the emotional level and lack of control of small children. Also prone to fantasy and insanity. Quite unstable. Not at all like the SciFi AIs portrayed in Star Trek and other mass media.

Posted by: ramAustralia | May 12 2024 22:02 utc | 123

@Nasir is clearly a LLM output. Not sure why you guys even engage with (it) him.
This will become an important skill in the years to come: differentiate actual human input from LLM filler.

Posted by: darkmoon | May 12 2024 22:03 utc | 124

[Dima] seems to think that brigades have been drawn out of the Krinky area to try to stop the Russians in the Northern front, to the extent that Russia may be able to launch a river crossing near Kherson.
Honzo | May 12 2024 20:09 utc | 87
Dima is getting ahead of himself (again), imho.
Establishing a bridgehead right next to a major city is difficult to say the least. Logistics across the river would be a nightmare, and Ukraine still has many unfortunate men to send to the grinder. Also, moving west towards Odessa without taking Kherson and Nikolaev is essentially impossible, and I don’t see the assembled forces for any of that.
As pure diversion, to force AFU to deploy reserves north, south, centre, everywhere? Not impossible – but wouldn’t that be much easier on other sectors of the southern front?

Posted by: smuks | May 12 2024 22:07 utc | 125

Posted by: Perimetr | May 12 2024 19:30 utc | 59
Is it a good idea to appoint a bureaucrat with no military background to be Defense Minister in the middle of a war?
It seems to indicate that Russia is preparing in advance in case to have to place the whole economy on a war footing. It would explain the selection of a numbers guy.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | May 12 2024 22:08 utc | 126

Well, what do you expect from a KGB agent?
Posted by: Honzo | May 12 2024 19:53 utc | 79
——
Oh pleeease. Give it a break with the KGB stuff.
1, That was 33 years ago. He was a Soviet Communist Party Member and employee back then.
2, He’s now a President, not an East German spy.
3, He has the support of 87% of the Russian people. You insult his citizenry by assuming they are so stupid for vote for “a KGB spy”.
4, He’s undoubtedly matured politically and personally.
5, Whilst one’s past jobs do give you experience and insight into your future career, they do not fix you into past mindsets as soooo many people brand him nowadays.
6, Nowadays he has vast teams to do national spying, better than he ever did.
7, Being “ex-KGB” is a Western propoganda cold war label meant to instil fear and distrust.
If you have any respect for the man, drop the cheesy label.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 22:13 utc | 127

A grotesque cockfight with USA/UK/NATO/EU gangsters shouting, calling bets, and throwing their money down.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 22:02 utc | 122
The greater Idlib.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2024 22:17 utc | 128

1 year ago, this comment was made. Some just can’t help themselves.
“At this rate they’ll be nuking themselves to slow natos advance to Moscow. When I first started posting here I said that, if anyone recalls. Russia is going to nuke itself. Seem more likely now?”
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 13 2023 19:08 utc | 54
You know panic is in the air when the Troll army shows up.
The real brains behind the SMO is the Russian General Staff led by a military man CGS Gerasimov.
The Minister of Defense is a political appointment to facilitate the needs of the military to carry out the requirements of the political objectives.
There’s has been quite a few upheavals in the post of Deputies of the Ministry of Defense, namely in Procurement, Logistics and very recently in the Industrial and facilities sector.
As Martynov suggested, Belousov will be a hitman to keep the new deputies in check.
Patrushev’s move is the odd one to me as an outsider.

Posted by: Suresh | May 12 2024 22:18 utc | 129

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 22:13 utc | 127
1) “KGB agent” is not an insult, if it is commenting on cunning and intelligence,it is a compliment.
2) Many in Russia would see it as a plus Putin was kgb.
3) he said “agent”, you changed that to “spy” for strawman hay. They are different. He was not a “spy”.

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 22:18 utc | 130

Posted by: Suresh | May 12 2024 22:18 utc | 129
America is going to be the one nuking itself, in my predictions, that I have made since 2015. It will have nothing to do with Russia or China, and it is still decades away.

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 22:21 utc | 131

Belousov has the look of some Katherine the Great minister (just add the wig).
He might become the next tsar.
In the mean time he may impugn the slomo SMO.
May be promote the trepidant colonels and brigadiers into fast paced advance …
or not and just content himself with becoming Putin’s successor.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | May 12 2024 22:29 utc | 132

…curious to find out what happens to Patrushev.
malenkov | May 12 2024 21:15 utc | 112

Yep.
LYFH | May 12 2024 21:40 utc | 118
…the guy who picks up the red phone when a nervous Pentagon calls. Unless they’ve already promised that to Medvedev.…
Pls let that call go to off-his-Meds-vedev. 😂😂🤣
…[I’m also not] a Kremlinologist, but Patrushev always came across as very sharp, direct, and staunch….
yep.
>… Budanov blames Syrsky. It was always going to come to this.
Zalhuzny is lucky Zelensky wanted him “out” and in London. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but the guy in the chair when SHTF cops most of the blame.
The corruption re the lack of defensive structures goes back years, but Syrsky will be seen as the guy responsible.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2024 22:38 utc | 133

The discussion in this thread regarding Shoigu’s reassignment has been edifying. Thank you.
Scott Ritter’s latest on Vladimir Vladimirovich 2.0 portrays a new Russian president, rolling up his sleeves. Meanwhile, this Ritter character becomes a pretty good writer, imho. He’s certainly unafraid to express open admiration for Putin. In these times, that’s outstandingly atypical.
https://scottritter.substack.com/p/meet-the-new-bosshes-not-the-same
A major theme here is how western sanctions have immeasurable strengthened Putin’s hand in working to cleanse the system of grift, by clearing away pesky, west-leaning oligarchs.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 12 2024 22:44 utc | 134

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2024 22:38 utc | 133
You mean the Ukrainians will blame the Russian?

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 12 2024 22:48 utc | 135

Didn’t have time over weekend to pretty up a post. Take it unpolished:
1/ IKEA. Left Russia back as part of the Sanctions From Hell™️ era. The idea that Russians would be so enraged they couldn’t buy a Billy bookcase they’d overthrow Putin.
Evidently IKEA used manufacture furniture in Russia for export to Asia [use Russian raw materials, pay wages in rubles].
Now, Russia has taken over the IKEA factories and is opening IRL and online stores. The furniture and branding look very IKEA. The Russians are also introducing new color palettes and products.
The yt vid didn’t say if Russia was exporting its looks-like-IKEA products.
But if IKEA now has to source wood and manufacture outside Russia, and set up new manufacturing… Russia’s “looks just like IKEA” furniture surely could be priced to undercut IKEA in Asia (and Africa?)
2/ BRICS: spent some time on their website. The non-USD trade is in the multi billions now, and more countries are getting a taste for not-USD transactions.
All it would take now is for the U$ to actually steal Russian foreign reserves….
3/ Matt Gaetz is steaming furious the U$ has been kicked out of Niger.
Guess they were planning on stealing the uranium they need, after they weaned themselves off dirty, nasty, commie Russian uranium.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2024 22:55 utc | 136

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 12 2024 20:16 utc | 93
Good for you Jeremy. That troll sticks out like a sore thumb. Duplicitous bastard re-posted his mate’s dodgy link, under the pretence of warning against it.
For those sensible people reading this troll infested thread backwards, look out for a malicious looking link that has been posted about 40 comments above.
And spoiler alert, Shoigu has a new, more prestigious and important job.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 12 2024 22:55 utc | 137

Ukrainians will blame the Russian?
Lev Davidovich | May 12 2024 22:48 utc | 135
If someone in the west misplaces a sock, it’s Putin’s fault…

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2024 22:57 utc | 138

All this angst over Kremlin reshuffles in both the MSM and here.
1, Government positions come and go.
2, People are moved, sometimes sideways, up, or down, as per their skill set and performance.
3, It only means what the President thinks it means.
4, Re-shuffles after elections are not “significant” nor “firings”, like mid term might be.
5, It is none of our fkn business to try to interpret Putin’s decisions.
6, Putin considers it will run THE WHOLE COUNTRY better. The SMO is only part of everyone’s job.
Get over it. Go back to seeing animals in cloud shapes.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 23:02 utc | 139

The minister of defense is a civilian who gets a uniform. The statements from Peskov say it all. The idea is finish the military-economic reforms and harness the economic power of the Russian military industrial complex. Putin has repeatedly said he will not choose guns over butter, but it’s clear that guns will be necessary. There is also the opportunity to return more industry to state control under the relative emergency of the SMO.
And there is clearly still corruption in MoD. The appointment is a clear signal following the clear signal of arresting a high ranking officer that corruption is going to be addressed.

Posted by: Lex | May 12 2024 23:04 utc | 140

Posted by: Micron | May 12 2024 18:34 utc | 37
‘And here, we’re at the same point than we were two years ago: what are the objectives of Russia?’
In 2022, the Putin regime had several major and interlocking goals:
1. Blitzkrieg and conquer Ukraine in preparation for ethnic cleansing and Russification
2. Undermine NATO
3. Undermine the EU
4. Restore Russia to its former economic, political and military glory.
To date, Putin has failed to achieve any of these objectives:
– Ukraine is standing firm
– NATO has united and expanded
– the EU is undented
– there’s not much glory in the wasteland Russia is creating in the occupied Ukrainian territories.
All this despite the foot-dragging by NATO in failing to provide Ukraine with enough weapons to repel the invader and take the conflict to the enemy. Even so, Ukraine has used its own resources to strike airfield and storage depots deep into Russian territory.
Putin’s most recent nuclear threats show that he is rattled by the western arms and funding package now being readied for Ukraine. He knows he is between a rock and hard place. He cannot move forward easily; he cannot retreat without losing face.

Posted by: Mr B | May 12 2024 23:10 utc | 141

Where’s Nikolai Patrushev going? IMO, he’s always been a redoubtable guy, capable of fighting efficiently to protect Russia’s security interests in times of conflict.

Posted by: GW | May 12 2024 23:10 utc | 142

@Jake.
It is none of our fkn business to try to interpret Putin’s decisions
First. You’re no fun.
Second. That’s what barflies do. Sit around and parse and comment on the doings of the day.
We chewed over Nuland’s recent career change. I don’t recall being chastised for that.
Russia’s administration is making world changing impact. We rightly want to consider who are these people and what are their backgrounds.
You’re hanging out in a virtual whiskey bar. Worth remembering sometimes.
Some people talk shit. Some people talk sense. But what people do at a bar is…talk.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2024 23:15 utc | 143

The appointment is a clear signal following the clear signal of arresting a high ranking officer that corruption is going to be addressed.
Posted by: Lex | May 12 2024 23:04 utc | 140
I doubt if that is the case. In the major reshuffle back in 2018, Putin said something in a speech. Not sure how to find it now. But those that proved their worth in pulling Russia out of the collapse of the Soviet Union were moved upwards and a younger generation were pointed in their places to take Russia into the future.
That initial reshuffle could be termed a milestone – Russia was then ready to take on the US. What we a seeing now will most likely be seen in hind site as another milestone.
The defeat of the US and the emergence of the multi-polar world.
Russia withstood everything the US could throw at it after the beginning of the SMO, and it was touch and go, but US didn’t go nuclear.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2024 23:18 utc | 144

Tom Pfotzer | May 12 2024 20:58 utc | 108–
That was an excellent comment. Team Putin is getting its lineup altered a tad and improved at the same time. Few here are aware that Putin’s a talent scout. Seven years ago, Putin initiated the Leaders of Russia Contest that I’ve reported on several times since it began most recently, “Russian Meritocracy: Leaders of Russia Contest” last March when Putin met with past winners to evaluate their performances. And that’s not the only institution Putin’s put into play since he first became president to develop leaders, thinkers, and doers–there’re eight such initiatives at last count, two being part of the national development priorities: the new regional “super universities” and twenty engineering schools/universities. IMO, people curious as to Russia’s direction and how it’s going to get there must read “Russia’s Future Planning Decree -2030-2036”, which will give you an idea of the types of leaders required.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2024 23:19 utc | 145

Is that supposed to be a snarky putdown? Who wouldn’t be proud of being erudite? Beats being proud of being stupid.
I know, don’t feed the trolls. Front lines collapsing, troll army has received marching orders.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 12 2024 20:56 utc | 107
Well, to be fair.
They at least have reserves.

Posted by: Urban Fox | May 12 2024 23:23 utc | 146

Belousov’s selection as head of the MoD can also been seen as VVP’s preparation for his possible successor following this current term of office.
Ciaran | May 12 2024 21:11 utc | 111
Belousov has the look of some Katherine the Great minister (just add the wig).
He might become the next tsar.

Greg Galloway | May 12 2024 22:29 utc | 132
Sounds plausible – I’ve been thinking that Russia will need someone with economics background + some defence experience. Trouble is, Belousov will be 71 yo in 2030. So it’s not him.
ramAustralia | May 12 2024 22:02 utc | 123
Thanks for making me chuckle. 🙂

Posted by: smuks | May 12 2024 23:24 utc | 147

Trolls all swarmed in to to re-parrot standard western propaganda.
VOA from 2018
https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-putin-reshuffle/4330260.html

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2024 23:24 utc | 148

No. Patrushev fils already earmarked for ’30.
If Beluosov performs as well in his new role, he’ll be joining that interesting upgraded chamber of elders along with the elevated VVP, Lukashenko, Lavrov, Shoigu, Patrushev père and the yet-to-be-revealed governor of cleansed post-bellar Ukraine.

Posted by: petra | May 12 2024 23:26 utc | 149

US debt/gdp during WW2 more than doubled, from 42% in 1941 to 106% in 1946. US debt in 2023 is 123% and rising exponentially. Russia debt/gdp in 2023 stands at 19%. Apart from the offshoring of american industry, the US cannot afford to take on Russia in a full scale ’conventional’ war. It would do to the US what WW2 did to the UK. Time is on Russia’s side.
Just a note on today’s curtis le may, lindsey graham, calling for Iran to be nuked because it was ok to nuke hiroshima and nagasaki. A true madman who should be sectioned under mental health.
I considered Ukrainian casualty figures, when they reached 1k per day, unsustainable, now it appears they are way beyond that. And the Russian offensive has hardly begun. This is becoming gruesome.

Posted by: Oh | May 12 2024 23:30 utc | 150

Few here are aware that Putin’s a talent scout.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2024 23:19 utc | 145
I watched the Soviet storm series on the great patriotic war. One thing that struck me there was that generals who had been sidelined earlier because Stalin considered they hadn’t performed well still put in proposals for future operations. In there was merit in one of those proposals, that general was put in charge of the operation to carry it through.
Perhaps what we are seeing in current Russia is not the same but certainly has similarities.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2024 23:34 utc | 151

“the Putin regime ”
LOL
“conquer Ukraine in preparation for ethnic cleansing and Russification”
LOL
“All this despite the foot-dragging by NATO in failing to provide Ukraine with enough weapons ”
LOL
“Putin’s most recent nuclear threats show that he is rattled ”
Posted by: Mr B | May 12 2024 23:10 utc | 141
Is it just me, or does this read out like it is an 4.1.?

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 23:37 utc | 152

Oh pleeease. Give it a break with the KGB stuff.
1, That was 33 years ago. He was a Soviet Communist Party Member and employee back then.
2, He’s now a President, not an East German spy.
3, He has the support of 87% of the Russian people. You insult his citizenry by assuming they are so stupid for vote for “a KGB spy”.
4, He’s undoubtedly matured politically and personally.
5, Whilst one’s past jobs do give you experience and insight into your future career, they do not fix you into past mindsets as soooo many people brand him nowadays.
6, Nowadays he has vast teams to do national spying, better than he ever did.
7, Being “ex-KGB” is a Western propoganda cold war label meant to instil fear and distrust.
If you have any respect for the man, drop the cheesy label.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 22:13 utc | 127
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Still, am I the only one who think it’d be grimly funny. If Putin actually does what he’s ofttimes accused of?
I.E reforming the Soviet Union via conquest of Ukraine, and integration of Belarus.
Then using CSTO, the Eurasian Union and digging out Gorbachev’s old Union treaty, or even just Russia’s legal status as the basis (technically the RF is the U.S.S.R) to reform the union.

Posted by: Urban Fox | May 12 2024 23:38 utc | 153

Peter AU1 | May 12 2024 19:53 utc | 81
Ah. Serbs are not angels, Russia knows that, luckily.
Posted by: whirlX | May 12 2024 19:59 utc | 82
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whirlX, I can’t figure out why you are biased when it comes to any Serb topic, but your above given statement is poor generalization based on Reuter’s article linked in Peter AU’s former comment. Did you read this article by the way?
I anticipate you will have arguments to explain, and I could easily counter them, but I will refrain in order to prevent converting this bar into Balkan pub.
Have a nice day.

Posted by: Tanger | May 12 2024 23:40 utc | 154

The only casualties being calculated by a third party are only of Russia by Mediazona. So it would seem that neither the “muh stalemate” folks or the “muh attrition” folks have exact information to be sure of being right. And yet they both are.
But as Russia has more missiles, FAB bombs and a huge (admitted by every Ukrainian ever interviewed about it) advantage in artillery, I would rather have to make a case that Ukrainian casualties are higher. Otherwise I might have to resort to “percentages of land in Ukraine”.

Posted by: Cheney | May 12 2024 23:49 utc | 155

The West loves to see Russia as a ‘one man band’ led by evil Putin. As with so much else, they fail to see the meritocracy he’s building. He is not a Saddam Hussein who might shoot a minister on the spot for reporting a shortfall. I don’t see a collection of lackeys and ass kissers ….or the delusional (Blinken) or diversity ‘picks’.
Patrushev and Mishustin look like skilled hard asses. This sort of structure suggests a leader who does not greatly fear being overthrown by a competent rival. Russia will challenge and trouble the West for many years, I think.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 12 2024 23:55 utc | 156

You mean the Ukrainians will blame the Russian?
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 12 2024 22:48 utc | 135
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You don’t miss a trick, do you? 😉😁
Actually I do wonder whether the _elensky/Ermak gang is clever enough to have thought that one up…

Posted by: malenkov | May 13 2024 0:03 utc | 157

petra | May 12 2024 23:26 utc | 149
…upgraded chamber of elders along with the elevated VVP, Lukashenko, Lavrov, Shoigu, Patrushev père and the yet-to-be-revealed governor of cleansed post-bellar Ukraine.
I noted Kazakhstan President Tokayev seated beside Putin (and Lukashenko) at the Victory Day march.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 0:04 utc | 158

@ Nasir | 41
“Why, did you really think he [Shoigu] was a real general? He was only playing dress up!”
Thank you for outing yourself as a troll and saving everyone else the trouble. Now please take your nonsense somewhere else.

Posted by: JessDTruth | May 13 2024 0:15 utc | 159

Matt Gaetz is steaming furious the U$ has been kicked out of Niger.
Guess they were planning on stealing the uranium they need, after they weaned themselves off dirty, nasty, commie Russian uranium.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2024 22:55 utc | 136
Gaetz is one of only a handful of sane politicians in CONgress (member of the Freedom Coalition). Contrary to your assertion that he’s “steaming furious”, Gaetz has been openly critical of the presence of US troops in Niger.
Let’s see how your characterization tallies with this excerpt from MSN:

Rep. Matt Gaetz claimed victory after the Pentagon declared on Saturday that it was pulling nearly 1,100 troops out of Niger.
Gaetz, a Fort Walton Beach Republican, has in recent days spotlighted how those troops were increasingly abandoned by the Biden administration — even as Niger’s regime was becoming more anti-American.
“Today, the Biden Administration has announced they will be pulling 1,100 troops out of Niger following my report earlier this week. For too long, the Biden administration has allowed our troops in Niger to languish while it has tried to cover up reality and avoid embarrassment. This is yet another extraordinary Biden foreign policy failure,” Gaetz wrote, journalist Simon Ateba posted on X on late Friday.

Melaleuca, if this is opposite day, then you’re absolutely correct.

Posted by: chronic | May 13 2024 0:17 utc | 160

@ Mr B | 141
“You” are just another troll, or some AI output. If “you” had been paying attention, you would not have said even 1 of these stupidities.
Either use the “offline” option or the door to the back alley, depending on if you are electronic or organic. And don’t come back.

Posted by: JessDTruth | May 13 2024 0:29 utc | 161

@ Melaleuca | May 13 2024 0:04 utc | 158
Kassym-Jomart Tokayev is trying to sit on two chairs at once. He is providing token respect at Moscow’s Victory Parade (after once again cancelling their own), at the same time as signing “strategic partnership” agreement with UK. Not to mention the unchecked NGO rampancy targeting the nation’s identity, clearly setting up for a color revolution. Central-Asia is under US Empire’s crosshair and it is already worming in deep.

Posted by: boneless | May 13 2024 0:31 utc | 162

Eighthman | May 12 2024 23:55 utc | 156–
The best way to rate Team Putin is by its performance, and all indicators say it’s done an outstanding–not just satisfactory–job. Yes, there are some mostly at the regional and municipal levels that have shortcomings. From all the interactions I’ve read between Putin and his subordinate governors, Putin is a hard yet fair taskmaster: he won’t assign an impossibility; instead, he’ll say the task is most difficult but to do your absolute best with our (federal) support. On planning, don’t make incorrect estimates–if the budget isn’t enough to do the job, then say so. Admit errors instead of trying to cover them. And of course, Putin himself is an excellent leader and mentor and still looks 50. And then there’s the level of intellect. The team has discussions that we don’t ever get to know about; what we see is the macro direction, so it looks more top->down than it is actually.
The nation building Russia’s doing now is far more challenging, complex and rewarding than Neoliberal Plundering, which at its base is gross and immoral. Once the SMO is over and the Great Russian lands are repatriated, Russia is going to become even more dynamic than China is currently, and the two together with the rest of Eurasia will be something to behold by 2100.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 13 2024 0:35 utc | 163

If you have any respect for the man, drop the cheesy label.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 22:13 utc | 127
“They” do not have any respect for the man, for he was able to assure the security of Russia. Which is making them extremely furious.

Posted by: Naive | May 13 2024 0:36 utc | 164

To date, Putin has failed to achieve any of these objectives:
– Ukraine is standing firm
– NATO has united and expanded
– the EU is undented
– there’s not much glory in the wasteland Russia is creating in the occupied Ukrainian territories.
Posted by: Mr B | May 12 2024 23:10 utc | 141
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Those are not Putin’s objectives, your interpretation possibly, should you have ever read them, which does not seem likely.
Please, look them up and recant. karlof1 is one of many here who have restated them.
If that is too much trouble, there is no reason for you to darken these pages.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 13 2024 0:37 utc | 165

[https://southfront.press/military-situation-on-ukrainian-frontlines-on-may-12-2024-map-update/%5D
The Russian army expanded the buffer zone in the Kharkiv region and took control of the villages of Krasne, Morokhovets, Oliinikove, Hatyshche;
Clashes continued near Stelmakhovka; Russian forces repelled attacks near Sinkovka; Russian forces advanced north of Ocheretyne; Russian forces advanced west of Krasnoe;
Russian forces advanced northwest of Verbove; Russian forces captured half of Krasnogorivka;
Russian forces eliminated 190 servicemen, two armoured vehicles, four pickups, one M777, one Msta-B howitzer, one M119 howitzer in the Kupyansk area;
Russian forces eliminated 620 servicemen, two tanks, 18 motor vehicles, one Braveheart artillery system, one M777, one D-20, three L-119 howitzers, three Gvozdika systems in the Donetsk area;
Russian forces eliminated 415 servicemen, two tanks, one Bradley infantry vehicle, one Kozak armoured vehicle, three motor vehicles, one Paladin system in the Avdeevka area;
Russian forces eliminated 125 servicemen, three motor vehicles, one M777 howitzer, one Msta-B howitzer, one artillery system in the Southern Donetsk area;
Russian forces eliminated 50 servicemen, two motor vehicles, six M777 howitzers, two Gvozdika artillery systems, three 122-mm D-30 howitzers in Kherson region;
Russian air defense forces intercepted 36 Ukrainian drones over the past day;
Russian air defense forces shot down eight Tochka-U missiles, one Hammer bomb, 23 Vampire, Grad, and Olkha projectiles over the past day;
Russian air defense forces shot down one MiG-29 warplane over the past day.
Russian forces advanced and took control of Krasnoye, Morohovets, Oleynikovo; Gatishche village; Clashes began in Volchansk; Russian artillery suppressed AFU units in Kazachya Lopan;
Up to 100 Ukrainian servicemen, two tanks, one Kozak armoured vehicle, four motor vehicles were eliminated during the Russian offensive in Kharkiv region.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 13 2024 0:42 utc | 166

The only casualties being calculated by a third party are only of Russia by Mediazona.
Posted by: Cheney | May 12 2024 23:49 utc | 155
And the mediazona reports show that the Russian casualties are currently very low. While afu is losing some 2000 servicemen/day.
+ those who wisely are surrendering
+ those who are fleeing the country (at the risk of their life)
The Belgorod hit today (12 civilians assassinated) came from 5 km away from the Russian border (distance 50 km).

Posted by: Naive | May 13 2024 0:43 utc | 167

Posted by: vargas | May 12 2024 19:06 utc | 49
Fuck off, agent provovateur who is supporting the ukronazis.
Posted by: Naive | May 12 2024 20:09 utc | 88
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Agreed.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2024 21:50 utc | 121
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He/him/itself talks like a 14-year old.
The SB Collective seems to be on break. Welcome treat.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 13 2024 0:45 utc | 168

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 13 2024 0:37 utc | 165
Is it worth to argue about fallacies? I think not.
The ukronazis and nato wanted to conquer Melitopol and the coast of the Azov sea. Not only they failed miserably, but they installed a meat grinder where the meat was not Russian…
What stupid people. I knew trolls, now we have quite stupid trolls unable to argue anything but to display their lies.

Posted by: Naive | May 13 2024 0:48 utc | 169

If you have any respect for the man, drop the cheesy label.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 12 2024 22:13 utc | 127
Oh, please! Putin was an agent of the KGB. Fact. He has led a team that has rescued Russia from the collapse of the Yeltsin coup. He is the leader of a team who is prosecuting an all-spectrum war against the west- the west that raped Russia after 91. How did he get that position? He was known to people who wanted to protect and preserve Russia, and had the access to knowledge and power necessary to work toward that. In other words, they were powerful people from the security services. Everything they have collectively done since has been one hundred per cent compatible with a slow-burn restoration of Russian socialism, within the constraints of the situation inherited from Yeltsin and the hostility of the west. He is where he is now because THEN he was already wise, knowledgeable, brilliant, subtle and had the backing of powerful people who recognized that, who were RUSSIAN PATRIOTS. That combination really points to a preponderance of communists.
I have infinite respect for VVP, and I reject the western propaganda line, which you seem to embrace, that Putin ‘saw the light’ and became an Atlanticist, and that only the ‘unexpected betrayals’ and rejection by the west made him turn to a ‘nationalist’ platform. Only a complete idiot would think that a brilliant man with a long career in the security services would think the west was anything but hostile to Russia. They were trying to rob it, hack it apart, and make sure it could never be a unified state again. Putin, at least, does not get his understanding of the world from reading the MSM.

Posted by: Honzo | May 13 2024 0:59 utc | 170

My only comment, since I have so very little history here (2-3 comments, maybe?) is to note that the trolls are out in force. Давай, поидем!

Posted by: Hunsdon | May 13 2024 1:14 utc | 171

chronic | May 13 2024 0:17 utc | 160
“Opposite Day”. Nah. I was watching Gaetz performance on c-span. (Ie, not reading a report of what he’s alleged to have said. But what he was actually saying)
He’s furious the U$ is being pushed out of Niger, furious the Russians “are inside the wire”, furious “Biden”/State Dept have hidden what’s happening in Niger and furious the Pentagon have been “abandoned” in Niger.
Go watch his actual theatrics.
[my search history isn’t spitting out the clip I watched yesterday. But this is close.] (if I find the actual clip I watched. I’ll post it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAIuWbBQ9GM

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 1:19 utc | 172

karlof1 | May 13 2024 0:35 utc | 163
Putin:”… still looks 50…
Given he was on his deathbed with terminal cancer just 2-3 news cycles back, he strode up those stairs at his inauguration with vigour. There’s fat 40year-olds in my acquaintance that couldn’t match him for speed, sure-footedness and aerobic fitness on those stairs.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 1:29 utc | 173

The West is blithely unaware of how its actions towards Russia appear over time. Putin asks to join NATO and is refused. He may have tried to join the EU more than once and been refused. The US dumped valuable treaties that affected Russia such as Open Skies, ABM and INF (they offered on site verification and were refused).
Russia pursued Minsk I and II while the West acted in bad faith. Russia helped the US with logistics in Afghanistan and warned the US about the guys who did the Boston Marathon bombing. Russia was explicitly rejected about a security pact for Europe in knee jerk fashion. They were utterly rejected in pursuing peace with Ukraine in Istanbul. The West has gone to extremes – never seen or done before – in regard to sanctions, weapons transfers, and every sort of animosity imaginable.
It looks very, very odd to observe the equivalent of fanatical hatred of Russia by the West and its depth and consistency across GENERATIONS, apparently. Look at Britain’s attitude ! What is their problem? Why? They don’t have enough trouble of their own?
Either Putin has been blind to this Eternal animosity or very patient with it, perhaps deceived by the West’s moral pretensions. If every attempt at negotiation is refused, it looks viciously crazy, giving Russia no choice – causing the West to react as they were bullies who are outraged because they got punched in the face, exclaiming, “He hit me !”

Posted by: Eighthman | May 13 2024 1:34 utc | 174

Posted by: Nasir | May 12 2024 16:44 utc | 20
You fight wars with what you have at the moment, not wait to get something special. The Nato population is one billion, the Russians are 160 million.
This means that you are allowing the Nato to find a solution. Last time, during GPW, they had time to develop the Nuclear weapons, they did not have any qualms using them right away.
So idiots: stop wasting time. Stop killing your own soldiers. They did not sign up for years of war! If the stupid political leaders are scared in their old age of possibly dying: here is the news for you! You are old, description, and shitting in your pants and you will not be able to save your own lives for 10 more years! You will die like bumbling fools that you are. Except you will kill hundreds of thousands of your countrymen.
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Maybe numbers aren’t what really matters. After all, the old saying goes, “Quality has a Quantity of its Own”. Those NAFO folk have lots of reasons to fight and die…..for what?

Posted by: Note for Naught | May 13 2024 1:37 utc | 175

https://t.me/llordofwar/347538
The head of the Social Democratic Party of Germany sharply criticized the idea of shooting down Russian missiles from the territory of NATO countries
“The desire to protect Ukrainian airspace through a NATO operation means abandoning the principle that we do not want to actively intervene in a war.
I consider such proposals irresponsible and extremely dangerous,” Rolf Mützenich said in an interview with Tagesspiegel.
He noted that the protection of Ukrainian airspace by the German army would turn Germany towards the conflict. According to Mützenich, his party will never agree to this.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 1:43 utc | 176

You must understand that no one can move a nation state. You need people because only the efficient
hierarchy can move the industry. You need to move the Industrial Complex: only when you are dealing in the crux, you move. Russia can live. China has a problem: if nobody wants any thing, China is done. All this history is based in the hope that gonna be come, and sell. If we no sell because nobody has the money to pay for products, the money is of no sense.
You must understand that the money is the measurement of energy or production: if the money is
something that is doubt, if the base of a society is debt, if the 15,000,000 404 poor idiots is how can live in this terrible place, when there are 50 years to pay for the weapons, and we are just 15,000,000 fucj off, 404 is dine
The war gonna impose reduction: that’s why Russia is protecting her 150,000,000 fucking childs, not you, old, 76 yo, mutuerfucker

Posted by: Caio | May 13 2024 1:44 utc | 177

Dmitry Peskov’s full comment on the reasons for appointing Andrey Belousov as Minister of Defense
The budget of the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex was recently around 3%, but recently it has grown to 6.7%.
This is not yet a critical figure, but due to known geopolitical circumstances, we are gradually approaching the situation of the mid-80s when the share of expenditure on the military-industrial complex in the economy was at the level of 7.4%.
It is very important to integrate the economy of the military-industrial complex into the country’s economy. To integrate it so that it corresponds to the current moment.
Today, the one who is open to innovations, more open to maximum operational implementation, wins on the battlefield.
Therefore, it is natural that at the current stage, the president decided that the Ministry of Defense should be headed by a civilian.
And this is not just a civilian, but a person who has very successfully headed the Ministry of Economic Development, who has been an assistant to the president on economic issues for a long time.
And in the previous cabinet of ministers, he was the first deputy chairman of the government.
The Ministry of Defense must be absolutely open to innovations, to the implementation of all advanced ideas.
Telegram: @DDGeopolitics

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 1:50 utc | 178

“On an ironical note, it’s funny how Russia has, with this Kharkov offensive, single-handedly destroyed the arguments of the Muh Attrition crowd.”
If one doesn’t know Russia has been fighting an attritional war, one is a dumbass, at least as far as military matters go.
Opening up a new front is not going on the offensive, it is more attritional warfare. That should also be easy to understand. The war will likely go this way until Ukraine surrenders towards the end of next year.
It is possible there will be a month or two of maneuver warfare towards the end like there was at the beginning.
Study Karpov’s positional chess and Russia’s way of war will be easier to understand.

Posted by: Eclavdra | May 13 2024 1:56 utc | 179

This shifts in Russian government must be the signs of despair in Russia.
The same situation as in Ukraine.
In NATO we see no personal changes, no criticism, no signs of war fatigue.
Slavs are killing each other and the West is laughing (both, elite and the wage slaves)
Posted by: vargas | May 12 2024 19:06 utc | 49
It must be easy to be you. Just take the latest news from Russia and draw the opposite conclusion. Take the propaganda of the West as fact. Mistake the stasis of NATO as stability. Ignore strategic setbacks. Don’t offer an argument of any kind – just say contrary things. It must be easy to be you.
I am ashamed to have even bothered to respond to you, as you are so obviously a troll.

Posted by: Activist Potato | May 13 2024 2:00 utc | 180

Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 22:18 utc | 130
>>>”KGB agent” is not an insult, if it is commenting on cunning and intelligence,it is a compliment.<<< Depends how it is used. Honzo referenced it in terms of P "originally being elected by communists" and that his present re-shuffle might be some kind of sneaky political payback. Hence the KGB label he attached as (possible) causality. I admit that 1980s KGB cunning is a forwards asset. But that does not make P "KGB" now. It's a fkn trope, ffs. I know extremely cunning people who were never KGB. Is Honzo suggesting P has 33 year old political debts/favours to repay? Laughable fantasising. >>>2) Many in Russia would see it as a plus that Putin was kgb.<<< Far more in Russia today couldn't give a shit what P was 33 years ago. They vote for the most competent man in 2024. He's got 33 years of subsequent political nous inside him, 24 as Pres/PM, much more potent than his old job in Berlin. And, cunning, surreptitious KGB-type methodologies are way less effective that the Presidential powers he currently holds. In fact, I would argue that the respect and popularity he commands both within and outside of Russia is testament to how STRAIGHT he plays his politics, not how "KGB" he plays them. >>>3) he said “agent”, you changed that to “spy” for strawman hay. They are different. He was not a “spy”.<<< Well, yes, I used shorthand for an East German KGB Officer, aka spy. But it is a moot point, as all Communist KGB Officers/Operatives were, in effect, spies, especially in East Germany. Ffs, his whole day would have been intel in and intel out to the West Germans. That makes him a spy in my books ... and to many in the West. My issue was not with the term spy, but with the clichéd old KGB label from his youth. And btw, the present communist Party currently hold ~13% of Duma seats, hardly a block that P has to cowtow to. So thanks for splitting hairs and wasting 10 minutes of my day to point all that out.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:01 utc | 181

He noted that the protection of Ukrainian airspace by the German army would turn Germany towards the conflict. According to Mützenich, his party will never agree to this.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 1:43 utc | 176
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(*yawn*) Well, that’s what he says today…

Posted by: malenkov | May 13 2024 2:02 utc | 182

America is going to be the one nuking itself, in my predictions, that I have made since 2015. It will have nothing to do with Russia or China, and it is still decades away.
Posted by: UWDude | May 12 2024 22:21 utc | 131
What sort of drugs are you on? Please explain how ine day “America will be nuking itself”. Is that like putting a finger up one’s own arse as you often do?

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:06 utc | 183

Melaleuca | May 12 2024 23:15 utc | 143
You are of course right — MoA is just a place for “talk”. But … it’s only a whisky bar if that’s what one believes it to be. Btw, I’d be no fun in a real whisky bar either, as I’m not a drinker anyway. I like to say what I mean and mean what I say. I’ve noticed that alcohol gets in the way of such candidness and clarity.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:14 utc | 184

Nobody gonna pay the debt. It is a lie. The banks want, but it’s a lie. Nobody has the money to pay the inexistent money. The economy is based in products who have no real value: energy, roads, navy, electronics, comms. And its gonna be the problem: the societies that has been able to make an industry, who have the industry, have the chance to live. Engineers. Math, Chem,
The thing is that: you need science, technology, engineered military bombs.
And Spirit to know that it is your brother

Posted by: Caio | May 13 2024 2:17 utc | 185

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2024 23:19 utc | 145
Well said, sir. Too much meaningless armchair conjecture. All VVP wants is a BETTER Team Russia.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:17 utc | 186

In full, because not everyone can access RT:

Ukraine a ‘corrupt s**thole’ – ex-Boris Johnson adviser
The UK and its allies got tricked into backing a “corrupt mafia state” in Ukraine and getting into a war of attrition against a Moscow-Beijing partnership, Dominic Cummingshas said in an interview.
The longtime Tory political strategist led the Vote Leave campaign for Brexit and was one of the key aides to then-PM Boris Johnson until resigning in November 2020.
“We should have never got into the whole stupid situation,” Cummings said in an interview published on Wednesday, commenting on London’s full-throated support for Kiev. He also described Ukraine as a “corrupt s**thole that doesn’t matter at all.”
“This is not a replay of 1940 with the Potemkin [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky as the Churchillian underdog,” he added. “This whole Ukrainian corrupt mafia state has basically conned us all and we’re all going to get f**ked as a consequence.”
Western sanctions have been “more of a disaster” for the EU than for Russia, driving up the cost of living while pushing Moscow and Beijing closer together, according to Cummings.
All the West managed to do is get into a war of attrition . [Muh attrition, @bar] with Russia, “who we pushed into an alliance with the world’s biggest manufacturing power.”
Cummings also addressed the argument that Russian President Vladimir Putin needed to be “taught a lesson” about invading neighbors.
“The lesson we’ve taught Putin is that we’re a bunch of total f**king jokers,” he said.
“I mean, Putin already knew that before the war. But this has emphasized it and broadcast it to the entire world, what a bunch of clowns we are,” he added.
Between the sanctions regime and the US trying to seize frozen Russian assets, the West is encouraging the emergence of alternative global financial systems, he explained.
That’s not teaching Putin any lesson, only that we’re idiots.
Cummings slammed Johnson – with whom he is no longer on speaking terms – for using the Ukraine conflict for “acting out his Churchillian fantasies,” as well as the Parliament, which “swallowed all of his total bulls**t on Ukraine and actually took it seriously.”
Johnson was the key figure in getting Kiev to reject a peace deal with Russia in April 2022, according to the top Ukrainian negotiator, as well as Ukrainian media.
The former PM denied his role in scuttling the talks, calling the account “total nonsense and Russian propaganda.” However, he confirmed that he told Zelensky the UK would back him “a thousand percent” and that any deal with Moscow would be bad.

>…IIRC a RT link doesn’t post here?

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 2:18 utc | 187

“I mean and mean what I say. I’ve noticed that alcohol gets in the way of such candidness and clarity”
That is a funny statement from one who uses so many strawman arguments and takes umbrage when someone calls you out on imprecise language. Agent and spy are two very different things, that isn’t splitting hairs, that is being precise.
As far as USA nuking itself, that is definitely a possibility. Perhaps you don’t know what factions control which parts of the nuclear triad or realize the schism in the military is deeper then the one in society? How unstable and unhinged the USA currently is?
Fairly long odds, sure, but not an unreasonable prediction.
OK, carry on with your weak arguments and petty insults. Later days.

Posted by: Eclavdra | May 13 2024 2:23 utc | 188

Honzo | May 13 2024 0:59 utc | 170
You’re a loony. Your reply to mine made absolutely no continuity sense — completely full of strawmen and off topic nonsense, such that I thought you must be replying to someone else. But that’s ok. You have a script, and you’re sticking to it.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:27 utc | 189

More RT

Nuland explains why US didn’t want Ukraine to talk to Russia
Ukraine has never been in a position to get a favorable settlement to end the enduring conflict with Russia and so Washington has never actually encouraged Kiev to negotiate with Moscow, former US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs and former acting Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland has claimed.
The ex-official and one of the key proponents of supporting Ukraine through military means made the remark in an interview with Politico published on Saturday.
A vast part of the interview revolved around the Ukrainian conflict, with Nuland producing a typical mainstream American assessment of it.
“Let’s start with the fact [*fact*;lol.Ok] that [Russian President Vladimir] Putin has already failed in his objective.
He wanted to flatten Ukraine. He wanted to ensure that they had no sovereignty, independence, agency, no democratic future – because a democratic Ukraine, a European Ukraine, is a threat to his model for Russia, among other things, and because it’s the first building block for his larger territorial ambitions,”
Nuland asserted, without providing any supporting evidence.
The official insisted that Kiev can still “succeed” in the conflict, though she dodged the question of whether she believes Ukraine could seize its former territories from Russia, including the Crimean Peninsula, which broke away from Kiev in the aftermath of the 2014 Maidan coup and joined Moscow after a referendum. 
“It can definitely get to a place where it’s strong enough, I believe, and where Putin is stymied enough to go to the negotiating table from a position of strength. It’ll be up to the Ukrainian people what their territorial ambitions should be,” she said, adding that “whatever is decided on Crimea, it can’t be remilitarized such that it’s a dagger at the heart of the center of Ukraine.”
The former official revealed Washington has never actually pressed Kiev into negotiations with Moscow, claiming its “negotiating position” was never actually strong enough, including in late 2022.
“They were not in a strong enough position then. They’re not in a strong enough position now. The only deal Putin would have cut then, the only deal that he would cut today, at least before he sees what happens in our election, is a deal in which he says, ‘What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is negotiable.’ And that’s not sustainable,” she claimed.
Victoria Nuland has been widely perceived as one of the key figures behind the whole Ukrainian crisis that started with the Maidan events, which ultimately brought down Ukraine’s democratically-elected president, Viktor Yanukovich, in 2014.
The diplomat, who at the time was Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, infamously showed up among Maidan activists, handing out pastries.
The affair became widely known as “Nuland’s cookies,” serving as a textbook example of direct US involvement in the coup.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 2:28 utc | 190

And a hat-trick of RT. Because this one is simply too deliciously ironic not to share:

Israeli Eurovision singer added to Ukrainian ‘kill list’
Israel’s contestant at the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 has been placed on Ukraine’s notorious Mirotvorets website for participating in a children’s competition in Crimea when she was just 12 years old.
Ukraine’s infamous Mirotvorets (Peacekeeper) database has been dubbed Kiev’s ‘kill list’ and criticized by human rights organizations.
The website, reportedly run by the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, lists enemies of the state and marks them as “liquidated” in the event of their death.
The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) is widely believed to be behind the deaths of multiple individuals on the database, including Russian journalist Darya Dugina and military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky.
Eden Golan, 20, who holds dual Israeli-Russian citizenship, was added to the database earlier this year, shortly after she won both the jury and public vote to become the Israeli representative at Eurovision.
However, it went largely unnoticed until she made it to the finals this week.
According to the Ukrainian website, the singer is accused of “conscious violation of the state border of Ukraine,” conducting “illegal commercial activity in the territories of Ukraine”, attempting to “legalize the occupation of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea” as well as participating “in anti-Ukrainian propaganda activities of Russia.”
Golan was born in Israel with both her parents originating from the USSR.
Her mother is Ukrainian-Jewish and father is of Latvian-Jewish descent.
The singer’s family moved back to Russia when she was six, and lived in Moscow for over a decade, before returning to Israel in 2022.
Back in 2016, when Golan was 12 years old, she took part in the Novaya Volna (New Wave) competition in Artek – an international children’s resort in Crimea – where she performed a duet with Russian singer- songwriter Nyusha.
That performance was her single “crime” listed on the database.
Golan became the focus of pro-Palestinian protests after she was selected to represent Israel in the song contest, held in Sweden this year.
Thousands of demonstrators descended on the host city of Malmo this week, demanding that Israel be kicked out of Eurovision due to the war in Gaza. Despite her performance being booed by the crowd, Golan reached the finals, with her song Hurricane taking fifth place.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 2:33 utc | 191

He’s furious the U$ is being pushed out of Niger…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAIuWbBQ9GM
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 1:19 utc | 172
Welp, at first I thought you were just being careless and didn’t understand Gaetz’s position, but now I see you’re just plain old lying. Gaetz didn’t say one word in the clip you provided that suggests “he’s furious” or that he’s “steaming furious” about leaving Niger.

“Ie, not reading a report of what he’s alleged to have said. But what he was actually saying.”

On the clip you provided and in the direct quotes various media have published, not just MSN, he claims victory for the US leaving Niger, the exact opposite of what you claim. Guess I’ll just have to not believe my lying eyes (and ears) lol. I get it that you don’t like Gaetz (“Go watch his actual theatrics.”) But this is making you look non-credible.

“…furious the Pentagon have been ‘abandoned’ in Niger.”

The Pentagon? Really? The Pentagon has been abandoned? By whom? Gaetz is “furious” that the SOLDIERS have been abandoned BY the Pentagon by not giving them adequate food, water and medical supplies and keeping them there while Russian troops are present.
I don’t think you’re American, otherwise you’d know better than to try to paint Gaetz as a globalist, which he definitely is not.

Posted by: chronic | May 13 2024 2:46 utc | 192

@Jake. MoA is a “watering hole”.
We in Oz have the word “furphy”, because WW1 soldiers would gather at the mobile iron water tank, manufactured in Victoria by Furphy, and exchange gossip. “That’s just a furphy”, meaning info passed on but not verified.
The U$ has its corporates done corridors of power “water cooler” … the exact same thing. People gather, gossip is exchanged. Sometimes a rumour manifests into fact merely by being conjured at the watercooler.
I don’t smoke, but shared a workspace with a female who did. Once indoor smoking was banned, the smokers took up residence at a shaded area at the side entrance. She would return (after some hours on “smoko”, with all sorts of inside info.).
MoA serves the same purpose. People congregate here and exchange “info”.
Some have something worthwhile to contribute. Some are annoying egotists who post prolifically without substance, and because of the worthwhile posting and parsing that happens here, we attract barfleas and professional trolls.
IRL, when in the company of a bore or a time waster, I move on…. As is my objective here. Ignore the ignorant; notice who is subverting discussion with repeated off-topic distractions; engage with those making valuable contributions.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 2:50 utc | 193

I like to say what I mean and mean what I say. I’ve noticed that alcohol gets in the way of such candidness and clarity.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:14 utc | 184
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You mean that you talk about people sticking fingers in their asses when you’re sober? and not even engaged in erotic adventures?…
Hope I never see you drunk!

Posted by: malenkov | May 13 2024 2:50 utc | 194

It seems to indicate that Russia is preparing in advance in case to have to place the whole economy on a war footing. It would explain the selection of a numbers guy.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | May 12 2024 22:08 utc | 126
The manner in which Russia is fighting this war easily supports that they are anticipating the possibility of a blow out fight with NATO. As that would be the fight they could possibly lose, naturally they are preparing for it even if it seems unlikely.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 13 2024 2:50 utc | 195

Posted by: Eighthman | May 13 2024 1:34 utc | 174
good comments by you, I agree, I understand that info, and the questions it raises.
fwiw (as to why?) i think it has a lot to do with “projection” of biases, and an idea I believe that “it is not what are looking at which defines reality we can see, but from where we are looking from instead” iow our own values/perspectives determines what we see “out there”.
simply put a conman and a fraudster will tend to be default wary of others trying to con them, to defraud them. Someone who lies, assumes everyone else does to and for similar reasons. Someone who will steal $100 from the Till assumes most other people would too, given the same opportunity. People who are honest and have integrity usually assume most other people are just like themselves honest and trustworthy – that;s how people get conned by those who are not.
Why? Because we tend to project our own values and experiences onto others and think most people are just like us. Criminals rarely trust other criminals — because they know what criminals do.
Now consider for a very very long time the US state does not operate in a trustworthy or honest way in international affairs (see wikileaks US diplomatic cables) – it is the norm since before WW1. And Russian (orthodox/social) values are different when it comes to making agreements and honesty.
I can imagine a situation where the Russian might assume the information about the Boston Marathon bombing was dismissed by some incompetent lower level operative … but that had the President known they would have taken action and trusted the information. This may be how the Russians thought about things in the past.
Hopefully after Syria, MH17, Salisbury Novichok, Minsk agreements, the Donbass civil war, Crimea, drones striking the Kremlin, US arms hitting Russian forces and terrorist attacks on civilians in Russia and Donbas crimea, dams and gas pipelines being blown up, drone surveillance, broken treaties, and Ukraine etc etc etc they no longer do.
Usually it takes a long time to believe the unbelievable … eg in marriage breakdowns on a basic human level or your best friend tells you your new lover has been cheating on you.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 13 2024 2:51 utc | 196

chronic | May 13 2024 2:46 utc | 192
The Pentagon has been abandoned? By whom?
A: The Dept of State.
I stand by what I posted.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 2:53 utc | 197

chronic | May 13 2024 2:46 utc | 192
The Pentagon has been abandoned? By whom?
A: The Dept of State.
I stand by what I posted.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 13 2024 2:53 utc | 197
Sure you do. And what about all your false claims of Gaetz being furious at the US leaving Niger? If you’re sticking by that one, why not give us a direct quote that supports your assertions?

Posted by: chronic | May 13 2024 2:58 utc | 198

That is a funny statement from one who uses so many strawman arguments and takes umbrage when someone calls you out on imprecise language. Agent and spy are two very different things, that isn’t splitting hairs, that is being precise.
Posted by: Eclavdra | May 13 2024 2:23 utc | 188
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Yet another example for why I don’t buy the claim that he’s an RSH sockpuppet. RSH could be abusive for sure — that’s why he was banned — but he was much too knowledgeable to make a mistake like that.

Posted by: malenkov | May 13 2024 3:00 utc | 199

Honzo | May 13 2024 0:59 utc | 170
You’re a loony. Your reply to mine made absolutely no continuity sense — completely full of strawmen and off topic nonsense, such that I thought you must be replying to someone else. But that’s ok. You have a script, and you’re sticking to it.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 13 2024 2:27 utc | 189
Jake the Snake lost me when he playfully speculated on conspiracy theories about b’s unannounced absence. Those he targets in the forum deserve special attention. Of course, VP was a KGB agent. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t fucking brilliant and a patriot for his country and cause.

Posted by: Activist Potato | May 13 2024 3:02 utc | 200