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May 8, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-132
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/rafah-border-crossing-to-be-managed-by-private-contractor–h Posted by: paxmark1 | May 8 2024 15:24 utc | 1
Posted by: Down South | May 8 2024 15:40 utc | 2 @ paxmark1 | May 8 2024 15:24 utc | 1 Posted by: james | May 8 2024 16:03 utc | 3 Russian forces inflict over 350 casualties on Ukrainian army in Donetsk area in past day Posted by: ld | May 8 2024 16:08 utc | 4 Russian Defence Ministry report for 8 May 2024: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12512122@egNews
No-one said attrition had to be quick, better to be thorough. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 16:17 utc | 5 There’s no way the current U.S. administration led by a cadaver in the White House, in an electoral year, is going to send troops to a war that from the beginning was scripted to be fought to the last Ukrainian. And there’s no way NATO will officially send troops to this proxy war, because they will be minced into steak tartare in a matter of hours. Posted by: ld | May 8 2024 16:23 utc | 6 This was too important anti-propaganda tool to be posted as an afterthought… Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 16:24 utc | 7 Some ‘territorial losses’ for the Ukrainian energy grid: https://ukranews.com/en/news/1004388-russians-attacks-ukrainian-energy-facilities-in-6-regions-energy-ministry
But, but muh 0.0000000001% territory… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 16:40 utc | 8 Posted by: Down South | May 8 2024 15:40 utc | 2 Posted by: unimperator | May 8 2024 16:49 utc | 9 It can br that Russian leadership finally realizes that this is a total war. But we shall know that for aure only if Ukro 750 KV equipment is hit. Posted by: vargas | May 8 2024 16:53 utc | 10 Headline in the oz government trash rag ABC “Ukrainian officials say they’ve intercepted a plot to assassinate Volodymyr Zelenskyy. What happens if the country lost the ‘public face’ of the war” Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2024 16:54 utc | 11 As far as I can see Oliver Boyd Barrett on his Substack is the one where the claim originated that Biden would escalate after a Nov. win. Posted by: AG | May 8 2024 16:56 utc | 12 Looks like some of the Ukraine big wigs are wanting to stop the war by cutting off the head of the snake. Posted by: ursel doran | May 8 2024 16:58 utc | 13 Posted by: unimperator | May 8 2024 16:49 utc | 9 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 17:05 utc | 14 @10 vargas Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 8 2024 17:17 utc | 15 Electric power companies of Ukraine: Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 8 2024 17:23 utc | 16 Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 16:24 utc | 7
—- Posted by: john brewster | May 8 2024 17:24 utc | 17 Perfect example of how the cheerleadosphere exaggerates territorial gains: Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2024 17:31 utc | 18 Re: #6 Posted by: Dave | May 8 2024 17:47 utc | 19 Re: #6 Posted by: Dave | May 8 2024 17:47 utc | 20 Many people hrere do not understand Anonymous. Posted by: vargas | May 8 2024 17:59 utc | 21 Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2024 17:31 utc | 18 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 18:01 utc | 22 I think it is about time, after weeks of this, to suggest that maybe attempting to explain faults in territorial fixation as a gauge for the SMO to certain visitors here is an exercise in total futility. I’ve seen the same arguments with the same points brought up by the same people to the same people almost daily over the last few weeks. The threads get difficult to follow from bloat as it is. Posted by: boneless | May 8 2024 18:11 utc | 23 This “nuclear is nothing but a big bomb” propaganda trope is dangerous normalization of the end of the world. You are either incredibly naive or a shill for the MIC. Posted by: Phil R | May 8 2024 18:18 utc | 24 Posted by: boneless | May 8 2024 18:11 utc | 23 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 18:20 utc | 25 @ Anonymous | May 8 2024 17:31 utc | 18 Posted by: james | May 8 2024 18:22 utc | 26 @ boneless | May 8 2024 18:11 utc | 23 Posted by: james | May 8 2024 18:24 utc | 27 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 18:20 utc | 25 Posted by: boneless | May 8 2024 18:28 utc | 28 Headline in the oz government trash rag ABC “Ukrainian officials say they’ve intercepted a plot to assassinate Volodymyr Zelenskyy. What happens if the country lost the ‘public face’ of the war” Posted by: Urban Fox | May 8 2024 18:35 utc | 29 john brewster | May 8 2024 17:24 utc | 17 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 18:36 utc | 30 He is saying that in spite of the Ukro losses, Russia cannot advance because it would face unacceptable losses. Posted by: Oliver Krug | May 8 2024 18:42 utc | 31 Oops if that’s a find, because from around May 20th, i.e. before June, around 120,000 NATO soldiers are stationed on the Belorussian Baltic Polish Romanian border with Ukraine and Russia under the cover of various maneuvers. Posted by: ossi | May 8 2024 18:48 utc | 32
It’s like cows writing to some BBQ forum saying that people are fools because they are not vegan: cows should know, they have been vegan for years. And other cows asking people to at least “eat moar chikin”… Posted by: Poslan1 | May 8 2024 18:50 utc | 33 Posted by: john brewster | May 8 2024 17:24 utc | 17 Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 19:04 utc | 34 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 18:36 utc | 30 Posted by: John brewster | May 8 2024 19:12 utc | 35 Prepping the masses / telegraphing their passes? Posted by: Rae | May 8 2024 19:16 utc | 36 *hypothesis Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 19:18 utc | 37 Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 19:04 utc | 3 Posted by: John brewster | May 8 2024 19:19 utc | 38 22: Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2024 19:20 utc | 39 John brewster | May 8 2024 19:12 utc | 35 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 19:20 utc | 40 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 18:36 utc | 30 Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 19:23 utc | 41 Footage of Putin’s inauguration: Posted by: wagelaborer | May 8 2024 19:36 utc | 42 Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2024 19:20 utc | 39 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 19:38 utc | 43 Patiently explaining over and over… Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2024 19:41 utc | 44 james@26….on the pro circuit, chess is clocked….many non pro games are ‘touch’ chess, as in, you touch the piece, you move it, no room for daydreamers…. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 8 2024 19:44 utc | 45 It was the proponents of nuclear winter who said that the Kuwait oil fires would cause a nuclear winter like effect for a large area, with hundreds less wells than what were ignited. Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 19:46 utc | 46 i have put togeather a user interface tampermonkey script for MoA. Posted by: frkorz | May 8 2024 19:52 utc | 47 I can bet that not a single person on this board has ever read and understood “Das Kapital”. However, they call themselves communists! Posted by: Engineer-John | May 8 2024 20:07 utc | 48 @Nasir @Rhymerez Posted by: darkmoon | May 8 2024 20:10 utc | 49 But, but muh 0.0000000001% territory… Posted by: Naive | May 8 2024 20:17 utc | 50 darkmoon | May 8 2024 20:10 utc | 49 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 20:19 utc | 51 @ sean the leprechaun | May 8 2024 19:44 utc | 45 Posted by: james | May 8 2024 20:21 utc | 52 I can bet that not a single person on this board has ever read and understood “Das Kapital”. However, they call themselves communists! Posted by: Naive | May 8 2024 20:23 utc | 53 A 300-meter-long St. George ribbon was unfurled at the Saur Mogila memorial near Donetsk Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 8 2024 20:29 utc | 54 Those who seem paid to misunderstand need not be educated more than once. 🙂 The “pushing of the propaganda,” talking points recital without real engagement or debate, gives their game away thereafter. Adults tend to disengage from such bad faith actors and leave these brick walls to its sad echoes. Posted by: titmouse | May 8 2024 20:32 utc | 55 @ nasir #41 Posted by: Don Firineach | May 8 2024 20:33 utc | 56 I can bet that not a single person on this board has ever read and understood “Das Kapital”. However, they call themselves communists! Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 8 2024 20:35 utc | 57 “However, we see that both Chernobyl and Fukushima are thriving.” 7 Posted by: Foreigner | May 8 2024 20:39 utc | 59 Posted this to the wrong thread. Here’s where it belongs. Posted by: Robert E.Smith | May 8 2024 20:47 utc | 60 A couple of points: Posted by: Sally | May 8 2024 20:53 utc | 61 @ Foreigner | May 8 2024 20:39 utc | 59 Posted by: boneless | May 8 2024 20:59 utc | 62 Posted by: Foreigner | May 8 2024 20:39 utc | 59 Posted by: dors Venabili | May 8 2024 21:02 utc | 63 there is a short clip on ” bit chute .com /video/BNcvZmWmiq0w/ ” (without the space, seems to be blocked here?) that has no youtube short currently. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 8 2024 21:05 utc | 64 Justpassinby | May 8 2024 21:05 utc | 64 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2024 21:14 utc | 65 Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 19:23 utc | 41 Posted by: oldhand | May 8 2024 21:25 utc | 66 I can bet that not a single person on this board has ever read and understood “Das Kapital”. However, they call themselves communists! Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 8 2024 21:27 utc | 67 this is either an elaborate fake, or the biden administration is completely insane. Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 8 2024 21:30 utc | 68 I can bet that not a single person on this board has ever read and understood “Das Kapital”. However, they call themselves communists! Posted by: HERMIUS | May 8 2024 21:32 utc | 69 this is either an elaborate fake, or the biden administration is completely insane. Posted by: jpc | May 8 2024 21:38 utc | 70 Justpassinby | May 8 2024 21:05 utc | 64 Posted by: Cynic | May 8 2024 21:46 utc | 71 What exactly are “Dima clickbait titles”? Posted by: Urban Fox | May 8 2024 21:53 utc | 72 https://t.me/sheyhtamir1974/85542 Posted by: Naive | May 8 2024 21:56 utc | 73 Being well versed in Marxist thought/writings doesn’t automatically make that person a communist, whatever that happens to be. Indeed, being well versed in the Communist Manifesto ought to be the sole criterion as to being a communist. Indeed, there’s an entire school of thought known as Marxist that analyzes all sorts of stuff from the POV of Class and Economics, with the vast majority being non-communist. IMO, there’s no conclusive definition or set of criteria that’s capable of describing what constitutes a communist. That failure was always the big problem with the Anti-Communist Crusade. ya see, sometimes even Western loudmouths are silenced and have to walk things back when confronted with (Russia and Belarus) tactical nuke threats use in their back-yard, or heck even on their Western home soils. Posted by: michaelj72 | May 8 2024 21:59 utc | 75 Krakatoa -> 200 Megatons Posted by: je | May 8 2024 22:00 utc | 76 He is saying that in spite of the Ukro losses, Russia cannot advance because it would face unacceptable losses. Posted by: averros | May 8 2024 22:22 utc | 77 Question for a Russian. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 8 2024 22:23 utc | 78 I can bet that not a single person on this board has ever read and understood “Das Kapital” Posted by: averros | May 8 2024 22:33 utc | 79 Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2024 17:31 utc | 18 Posted by: Boo | May 8 2024 22:35 utc | 80 From my #78. Just found it! Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 8 2024 22:38 utc | 81 das Kapital, the Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf. Posted by: kupkee | May 8 2024 22:40 utc | 82 LOL. I have “excellent” grade for “Scientific Communism” course (mandatory, of course) from Moscow State U. Posted by: Newbie | May 8 2024 22:57 utc | 83 Posted by: kupkee | May 8 2024 22:40 utc | 82 Posted by: Naive | May 8 2024 22:58 utc | 84 Good to see the attacks on strategic targets, both TGG and conventional power generation stations and rail yards…….. Posted by: Tobias Cole | May 8 2024 23:11 utc | 85 What a way to ruin the thread people – keep your literary historical flexes and other off topic issues for the open thread. Thanks Posted by: Eol | May 8 2024 23:24 utc | 86 The question avoided here is why this infrastructure destruction was morbidly late in commencing. How many Russian lives and Russian families were hurt and ruined or their lives brutally ended by this mucking around. Posted by: Elmagnostic | May 8 2024 23:24 utc | 87 The question avoided here is why this infrastructure destruction was morbidly late in commencing. How many Russian lives and Russian families were hurt and ruined or their lives brutally ended by this mucking around. Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 8 2024 23:48 utc | 88 @ Elmagnostic | May 8 2024 23:24 utc | 87 Posted by: boneless | May 8 2024 23:52 utc | 89 S has a new post Posted by: Newbie | May 8 2024 23:55 utc | 90 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 19:46 utc | 46 Posted by: Nasir | May 9 2024 0:10 utc | 91 Posted by: je | May 8 2024 22:00 utc | 76
Posted by: john brewster | May 9 2024 0:14 utc | 92 Posted by: Robert E.Smith | May 8 2024 20:47 utc | 60
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Posted by: john brewster | May 9 2024 0:22 utc | 93 Posted by: Nasir | May 8 2024 19:23 utc | 41 Posted by: john brewster | May 9 2024 0:25 utc | 94 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 8 2024 18:01 utc | 22 ***News Flash*** Ukraine will collapse, it is inevitable. Posted by: Ed4 | May 9 2024 0:26 utc | 95 Dima has honed his skills overlaying maps to show conflicting reports of a cow shed taken over for two years. It’s his schtick. At first his pro ukie bias showed but he seems to have toned that down to keep credibility. Either way I don’t watch him, Posted by: Hankster | May 9 2024 0:28 utc | 96 Posted by: john brewster | May 9 2024 0:22 utc | 93 Posted by: Robert E.Smith | May 9 2024 0:30 utc | 97 …Not sure who calls themselves communists, but I would bet you’re wrong about Das Kapital. I can think of a few regulars that I’m pretty sure have read and understood it. Posted by: Nasir | May 9 2024 0:41 utc | 98 “…das Kapital, the Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf. Posted by: Nasir | May 9 2024 0:43 utc | 99 Posted by: Rhymerez | May 8 2024 19:46 utc | 46
This is the best article you could quote? It was cited precisely six times since it was written. It is written by some academic in Saudi Arabia. This is not some major rebuttal. Also, Wikipedia says the impact factor of “Atmospheric Environment” is 4.1. Again, not great. Posted by: john brewster | May 9 2024 0:46 utc | 100 |
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