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May 19, 2024
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2024-142

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

Ukraine:

Palestine:

Empire:


Other issues:

Assassination:

Hindufascism:

Georgia:

Tradewar:

U.S. launches Spacewar:

  • New Star Wars Plan: Pentagon Rushes to Counter Threats in Orbit (archived) – New York Times
    Citing rapid advances by China and Russia, the United States is building an extensive capacity to fight battles in space.
    [T]he Defense Department is looking to acquire a new generation of ground- and space-based tools that will allow it to defend its satellite network from attack and, if necessary, to disrupt or disable enemy spacecraft in orbit, Pentagon officials have said in a series of interviews, speeches and recent statements.

Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

Comments

Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:20 utc | 100
Ever done any ag work? Ever flew?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:23 utc | 101

While everyone here is looking over at the helicopter crash in Iran – in which of course President Ebrahim Raisi died – there’s been an attempted coup in the DRC and the opposition politician leading that coup, Christian Malanga, has been killed. A number of foreigners with US and British citizenship have been arrested in connection with the coup.
Politician killed in foiled DRC coup
‘Several nationalities’ including American and British involved in DRC coup attempt, say officials
U.S. Citizens Arrested After Alleged Coup Attempt in the Democratic Republic Of The Congo: Here’s What We Know So Far
Not surprisingly the US ambassador to the DRC bleats the usual insincere messages of condolence and a promise to cooperate with Kinshasa:

“I am shocked by the events of this morning and very concerned by reports of American citizens allegedly involved,” she wrote in French. “We will cooperate with DRC authorities to the fullest extent as they investigate these criminal acts and hold accountable any U.S. citizen involved.”

No shock expressed that a coup was taking place under her very nose?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 20 2024 5:26 utc | 102

Helicopters have more critical working parts than fixed wing, so more to go wrong.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:28 utc | 103

Helicopters crash more than planes. Bad weather in mountainous terrain is a risky proposition. That said, 2 of 3 made the flight with out problems. The high value one crashed…
I did a lot of time in fire fighting helicopters in the mountains and it’s definitely risky. A tragedy no matter the cause.

Posted by: the pessimist | May 20 2024 5:28 utc | 104

Iran and Azerbaijan on Sunday, May 19, opened a hydroelectric dam on their border, with officials calling the megaproject a symbol of “long-term cooperation” and “friendship and amity” between the two nations despite political disagreements in recent years, IRNA reported.
The Qiz Qalasi (Maiden Tower) Dam, built on the Aras River along the Iran-Azerbaijan border, was brought online by Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi and his Azeri counterpart Ilham Aliyev hours before the helicopter crash and subsequent search operation.
https://www.intellinews.com/iran-azerbaijan-open-border-hydro-dam-on-shared-river-325884/
The Dam is on the border …. mountainous region …. no Freeways! No Airports!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aras_Dam
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Iran-Armenian-Azeri_border_%28Cro%29.PNG
The latest census in 2016 showed a population of 11,472 people in 3,377 households.[2] The city lies on the western bank of the Aras River. Also adjacent to Poldasht is the Aras River Dam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poldasht
Nearest Airport – Nakhchivan City in Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic, Azerbaijan
https://www.rome2rio.com/s/Nakhchivan/Nakchivan-Airport-NAJ
——————–
It seems the bad weather rolled in over night, and that’s of course providing the “bad weather” account for the crash.
https://x.com/petrovicsrb/status/1792265032719290583
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2024 4:55 utc | 94
Q. So M. do you know why the guy keep moving his MOUSE pointer over and area hundreds of miles from where the dam is and where the crash actually happened? [ Yes there is a Tavil there, but ti’s not where the crash happened ]
See above, and see Reporting from Tehran, Al Jazeera’s Resul Serdar says local reports indicate that the suspected crash site detected by the Turkish drone is 100km (62 miles) from the city of Tabriz, near a village called Tavil.
In northern Iran not far from the DAM site. ?????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabriz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavil,_East_Azerbaijan
Cheers
Beware confirmation bias (always) but especially at times like this.
So check my info as well! 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 20 2024 5:29 utc | 105

Refinnejenna | May 20 2024 5:26 utc | 102
Likely Russia worded them up on the US move. Russia has a military presence in DRC. Saw a bit of a doco a year or two back. Training and so forth.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:31 utc | 106

there’s been an attempted coup in the DRC and the opposition politician leading that coup, Christian Malanga, has been killed.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 20 2024 5:26 utc | 102
Yeah a saw that a while back. Good news huh? Those arrests. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 20 2024 5:31 utc | 107

Ever done any ag work? Ever flew?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:23 utc | 101
Two different questions.
Ag work? No.
Flew? A lot. My grandfather was a test pilot and later an FAA inspector. Uncle was a turboprop mechanic. Both had their own prop planes. One was two the other was single prop. Also flown a lot on puddle jumpers in the “modern” era.
How much ag helo work is done in inclement weather? How much of it involves massive mountain ranges? Both? As a percentage. Zero is my uneducated guess.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:42 utc | 108

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:23 utc | 101
Also how much ag work is done at medium (rather than extremely low) altitude?
Zilch. Zero again.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:44 utc | 109

Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:44 utc | 109
That’s when you come to understand the difference between fixed wing and rotary wing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:47 utc | 110

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:47 utc | 110
Exactly and it’s also why it’s totally irrelevant to high government leaders using rotary wing transport over fixed wing when traveling such long distances over nasty terrain in bad weather. Zero low altitude ag or any other work happens in a hurricane or massive storm. Are you seriously implying that you’d take a small copter up in anything but the most ideal conditions?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:53 utc | 111

Which isn’t to say you’d try takeoff in a piper or Cessna in bad weather either, especially for routine spotting or dusting.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:56 utc | 112

Most likely pilot error if it’s a visibility problem due to heavy fog. Like JFK, Jr., he was inexperienced in flying under Instrument Flight Rules.

Posted by: Jun | May 20 2024 5:57 utc | 113

Are you seriously implying that you’d take a small copter up in anything but the most ideal conditions?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 5:53 utc | 111
What planet were you born on? Fuckwit.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:58 utc | 114

To explain a little more, I put in 5000 hours in an auto rotating rotary wing. Fucking calm weather jerk.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:01 utc | 115

What planet were you born on? Fuckwit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 5:58 utc | 114
LOL! Are you seriously saying you’d take up a true 2 man helicopter in anything but excellent conditions for “ag work”? LMFAO
OK bud. Haha – Not even “Life flights” with crews (and seats for) 3-5 dudes will take off here in the States if there’s hurricane or tornadoes in the area [at least without MAJOR qualifying circumstance] – and you’re acting like the president of Iran was on something like a small farm helicopter.
Projection.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:02 utc | 116

auto rotating rotary wing. Fucking calm weather jerk.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:01 utc | 115
I know people who fly as EMTs in helicopters on life saving callouts for traffic accidents etc. here in the US. At this point I have zero idea what situations you’re even talking about considering that you are the one who broached the “ag work” to begin with.
Tell us more…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:04 utc | 117

Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:02 utc | 116
I’m not sure Iran has tornados and hurricanes.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:05 utc | 118

Define “auto rotating rotary wing” please. I have no idea what you mean by that.
If you mean shit like Ospreys, LOL. OK have fun. Also be thankful you’re alive. Even in good weather.
And do explain what you mean when implying that I’m a calm weather jerk in the context of your ag work comment. Do agricultural workers tend to fly rotating wing aircraft in bad weather? If so, when?
Thanks. Eagerly awaiting your expert reply.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:07 utc | 119

That helicopter going down could just be mechanical malfunction as that is often the cause, but also so easy to sabotage.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:08 utc | 120

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:05 utc | 118
Do you really want me to dig up a weather report on the conditions between Iran and Azerbaijan and over the mountains?
You’re the one who said “calm weather” – I only noted the circumstances under which ZERO rotary wing aircraft will lift off without MAJOR countervailing circumstances here where I live.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:08 utc | 121

Eagerly awaiting your expert reply.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:07 utc | 119
Wait eagerly yank clown.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:09 utc | 122

Wait eagerly yank clown.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:09 utc | 122
HAHAHAHA! So you’ve flown X thousand hours in a typical small helo following your sheep when it’s slightly overcast in England or Ireland.
Gotcha. Such a tough guy. Top Gun, even. Expert in all weather circumstances (except where there are very high winds, thundercells, real mountains, etc.). Again, got it.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:12 utc | 123

“HAHAHAHA! So you’ve flown X thousand hours in a typical small helo following your sheep when it’s slightly overcast in England or Ireland.” ….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:15 utc | 124

So I’m correct, yes?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:16 utc | 125

One thought that comes to mind – what Aircraft do Iran have for flying their VIP’s around?
And if LD above is correct, there’s no airports near the dam site. Other than that, it is certainly known that other heads of state also travel by helicopter at times.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:19 utc | 126

Tom, you’re making a dick of yourself.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:22 utc | 127

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:22 utc | 127
Unfortunately I think you have it the other way around. Have you EVER flown in SERIOUSLY bad medium altitude conditions in your x,000 hours of (what I guess is just a) standard single- or double-seat helicopter in your life? And again, what is “ag work” and how is that relevant at all unless you can tie it to flying a Chinook or equivalent over massive mountain ranges under far less than ideal (to the point rescue is hampered) conditions?
Stop projecting first, please.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:25 utc | 128

Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:25 utc | 128
How do you land a helicopter that has a simple engine out?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:28 utc | 129

that has a simple engine out?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:28 utc | 129
At this point all I can do is speculate. And in doing so I assume you mean “single” engine out. To which my answer is: Exactly why you don’t fucking fly helicopters in shit weather if you can avoid it. And I’ll also point out that you’re exhibiting the behavior of a classic Internet ‘troll’ by ignoring my question(s) about what “ag work” means or has to do with any of this – given the context. FFS man, take a breather. Go touch grass.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:32 utc | 130

At this point all I can do is speculate. Go touch grass.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:32 utc | 130

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:33 utc | 131

Peter. Seriously.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:36 utc | 132

Tom, why does the Russian counter rotating rotor helicopters have better lift capacity, better altitude than standard style helicopters?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:36 utc | 133

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:36 utc | 133
Man we’re talking past one another here. Let’s revisit this another time. Totally different conversations happening.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:41 utc | 134

Tom. Ok I’ll try some easier ones. What ire a STOL aircraft? What is wing loading?
Shirly you can get one of them right?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:44 utc | 135

Tom, same conversation.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:46 utc | 136

You’re embarrassing yourself.
Good night, evening, morning or whatever. We know each other here. We can talk another time

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:47 utc | 137

Good night, evening, morning or whatever. We know each other here. We can talk another time
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 6:47 utc | 137
No tom. As you said “At this point all I can do is speculate”. I did warn you you were making a dick of yourself.
Fancy that huh. I’m in good old mother England.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:49 utc | 138

While everyone here is looking over at the helicopter crash in Iran – there’s been an attempted coup in the DRC
Not quite “everyone”, Jen. I posted about DRC early in this thread.
[(Give me a gold star,/ extra credit lol)]

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2024 6:56 utc | 139

Melaleuca | May 20 2024 6:56 utc | 139
Attempted seems to be the word. Another day in the last gasps of empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:59 utc | 140

Pleased to see that Sirota’s rag ‘The Lever’ has taken up the cudgel against the global takeover of single family homes by corporate & other private investment vehicles. As well as highlighting the issue of copious extra charges these new landlords have instituted, there is a piece on the lobbying of these arseholes to block any effort by congress to restrain their toxic practices.

“As part of a growing push over the last two years to limit Wall Street’s grip on the housing market, in December Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) introduced a bill to end corporate ownership of single-family houses. Lawmakers in eight states have also introduced bills over the last year that would limit or penalize corporate investors who purchase single-family homes. This includes Arizona and Georgia, two states where such real estate investors are particularly concentrated.
These efforts, however, are facing a wall of opposition from a new and increasingly powerful single-family rental lobby.
Leading the industry backlash is the National Rental Home Council, the primary lobbying organization for companies that rent out single-family houses. The group spent $310,000 last year lobbying federal lawmakers on efforts to rein in single-family rental companies and other matters, according to federal disclosures. It’s the largest annual lobbying expenditure the group has ever recorded.
The group has already reported spending $120,000 lobbying in the first quarter of 2024, including on Merkley’s bill to end investor ownership of single-family houses, which has since stalled in committee.”

Australia seems almost as bad as amerika on this. It affects my youngest terribly eg my daughter has moved interstate as she couldn’t afford to even rent much less buy a home for herself and 3 y.o. even off a salary of a tad over $120,000 p.a. or USD approx $80,000 which is what most people in their late twenties seem to drag down there.
I’m genuinely concerned, I have never before considering running a ‘bank of Mum & Dad’ or more accurately a ‘bank of Dad’ and she’s been pretty staunch about not receiving any assistance from me but I’m gonna have to do something soon if her interstate move doesn’t help enough. Anyway I’m sure we’ll work something out but not so a lot of other youngsters stuck with ridiculous student loans who’re not only unable to buy a home, they cannot even rent one.
This brings me to one of my big rants about how we shouldn’t define the proletariat by their employment but instead their consumption. As bad as it is for working people, there is an ever increasing pool of humans about this planet who are unlikely to ever find paid employment who will fight for their rights as well as ‘the workers’.
Increasingly we need to be organising boycotts/sanctions against those greedies who depend on the income generated by consumption and have little to no contact or need for workers. Yeah,yeah workers generally have more skin in the game, however organising across all the proletariat will also go along with protecting industrial action from insidious scab labour.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 20 2024 7:00 utc | 141

“to even rent much less buy a home for herself and 3 y.o. even off a salary of a tad over $120,000 p.a.”
Crooke did a piece some time back on the Bourgeois revolution. As the real estate agents say – location, location, location.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 7:07 utc | 142

Middle East Eye tells that First Vice President Mohammad Mokhber will be the interim President of Iran for a maximum of 50 days during which time he plus the speaker and the head of the judiciary have to organise an election for new prez. On second thoughts rather than Mokber who will be interim prez, the new interim vice-president who gets Mokber’s old gig may be who is stuck with helping organise the election.
There is no news of any cause as apparently the weather (it started snowing during the night) has thus far stymied any investigation.
Whike we’re on that what d’ya reckon a venn diagram comprised of two sets the first being made of all those convinced b. had been abducted by the forces of darkness when he was crook a coupla weeks back, plus another set of those convinced that the helicopter crash was was caused by sabotage, would look like.
I reckon it would show as a large blob with a smaller blob smack in the middle of it meself.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 20 2024 7:31 utc | 143

T%his ones been up for awhile but worth posting here.

Victor vicktop55
@vicktop55
Margarita Simonyan: And Raisi’s helicopter fell by accident due to fog, and Fico was shot by a crazy grandfather, and at Olof Palme, and at Kennedy. Shit happens.
But it happens most reliably with careful professional training carried out by the rulers of shit.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 7:34 utc | 144

Sincere condolences to the people of Iran for this great loss.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 7:48 utc | 145

Slovack PM down. Iranian president down for keeps.
The aids carrying the nuke briefcases were very visible in the recent Xi Putin meeting….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 7:52 utc | 146

@Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 7:34 utc | 144
The murder of Olof Palme in 1986 was definitely a CIA job. I remember clearly the shock of the morning of March 1st 1986. I also remember the endless nonsense investigation that followed.
Until any potential evidence of foul play is presented, I interpret the sad event in Iran to be an accident.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 7:54 utc | 147

No shock expressed that a coup was taking place under her very nose?
Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 20 2024 5:26 utc | 102
Very deniabilitily plausible.

Posted by: UWDude | May 20 2024 8:05 utc | 148

Until any potential evidence of foul play is presented
Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 7:54 utc | 147
The helicopter burned. Many aluminium parts.
It seems they were mostly still alive but injured after the crash as per phone communications, but it seemed the wreckage burned after those initial phone calls. Hot parts plus fuel. Not a good combo if you are injured and in the wreckage.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 8:06 utc | 149

No account needed / telegram. Snippet vid
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/53611
>…The departure of Russian “Emercom” search & rescue teams for Iran

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2024 8:28 utc | 150

Raisi was a consolidating, compromising figure and thus his death by accident or something else isn’t good for Iranian society
In his absence, many contradictions and conflicts within the Iranian ruling class will come to light

Posted by: Old Sovietologist | May 20 2024 8:28 utc | 151

Netanyahu said that there will be a response. I won’t say when and how, but it will happen.
Of course, the deaths will be put down to tragic accident due to technical malfunction or weather delete as applicable.

Posted by: Old Sovietologist | May 20 2024 8:40 utc | 152

I suspect it is done for egoist reasons, putting down another to boost themself (they imagine).
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 20 2024 5:09 utc | 97
Egoist. You like to use that word a lot. Psycho analysis of a poster instead of analysis of their actual argument.
A persons argument may or may not be posted out of ego. Why they say what they say has no bearing on the validity of their argument.
Projecting psychological intent on a poster, is attacking the poster, not the argument. It doesn’t matter if they were not hugged enough as a child or had dreams of white rabbits.

Posted by: UWDude | May 20 2024 8:44 utc | 153

DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
🇨🇩 Attempted Coup in Congo
This morning, four armed individuals led by Christian Malaga attempted to break into the presidential palace in Kinshasa. Following minor clashes, the rebel leader was killed, and his accomplices, including one American, were detained. Two police officers were killed in the fighting.
Christian Malaga is another “opposition leader” backed by the West. Born in Kinshasa, he spent most of his childhood in the USA.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1792247170743095596

Posted by: Menz | May 20 2024 9:11 utc | 154

Pelham
@Resist_05
BREAKING🚨 The Biden Administration is set to allow Jewish billionaire Dan Gertler to cash out his mining positions in the Democratic Republic of Congo which has enraged human rights activists…
Gertler is responsible for thousands of child slave deaths in his illegal cobalt and diamond mines in the DRC…
https://x.com/Resist_05/status/1792415747253428416

Posted by: Menz | May 20 2024 9:20 utc | 155

“Tom, you’re making a dick of yourself.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 20 2024 6:22 utc | 127
Tom Q. Collins has always been an asshole, is an asshole now and will be an asshole in the future.

Posted by: canuck | May 20 2024 11:25 utc | 156

@canuck | May 20 2024 11:25 utc | 156
“Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.”

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 11:45 utc | 157

⚡️ Julian Assange Granted Right To Appeal Against Extradition By UK High Court

https://t.me/rtnews/63012

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 11:46 utc | 158

On the safety implications of using GPS as a backup altimeter when flying at low altitude in poor visibility, I was recently reading up on the latest GPS Block III specification.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Block_III

… In a major departure from previous GPS designs, the M-code is intended to be broadcast from a high-gain directional antenna, in addition to a wide angle (full Earth) antenna. The directional antenna’s signal, termed a spot beam, is intended to be aimed at a specific region (i.e., several hundred kilometers in diameter) and increase the local signal strength by 20 dB (10× voltage field strength, 100× power. …

It doesn’t say that this feature is technically capable of acting as a GPS spoofer, overriding the standard signal with one intended to produce erroneous navigation in a geographically localised zone, but then it wouldn’t.
Wiki claims that 6 of the Block III satellites are launched and operational, I think the technological overlap between the disclosed directional broadcast functionality and the ability to locally spoof GPS navigation is worth bearing in mind for future investigation.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 20 2024 11:59 utc | 159

gringo napped in Congo coup attempt

They dont call FUKUS the no 1 shit stirrers for nuthin !
In particular CIA/MI6 have been stalking Han Chinese wherever they are.
From the Chinese Exclusion Act of 17C in Anglophone sphere, escalating to the current Global CEA.
Exhibit A
Congo./

The scene was therefore set for the escalation of unrest and vandalism: outright looting of shops, stores and properties belonging to Chinese nationals in the Ngaba, Kalamu and Limeté communes in the capital Kinshasa and those of Lebanese in the Masina township, including Hasson and Brothers

https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-drives-an-imperial-wedge-between-congo-and-china/5429886

Posted by: denk | May 20 2024 12:06 utc | 160

Just read Craig Murray’s piece. He writes, “Within this architecture of belief, other orthodoxies hang dependent, such as the correct way to respond to a complex pandemic, or support for NATO and impunity for the security services.” (I laughed out loud at that last part. Cheeky, Mr. Murray)
Oh that complex pandemic. This video from (then called) A Tribe called Red came out just before then. Before we knew it was Covid. I bet there’s a French-Canadian equivalent somewhere.
https://youtu.be/eAEmjW9J3_o
And about that time a Canadian military helicopter crashed in the Mediterranean. I remember questioning it at the time.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/navy-helicopter-debris-suggests-sudden-descent-as-probe-faces-challenges-experts-1.4922258
Per this report, it notes “ it appears a military Cyclone helicopter struck the waters off Greece with sudden and massive velocity, but investigators may face challenges determining what caused the tragedy without recovering the aircraft” I read something about “contact” in another report. (Asteroid? Space debris? Albatross? Swarm of locusts???) Turned out to be some technical mis-firing of some sort.
Anyway. My condolences to the people of Iran for their loss.
The families are suing Sikorsky (owned by Lockheed Martin)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/victims-families-sue-american-manufacturer-cyclone-helicopter-crash-greece-1.6911194

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | May 20 2024 12:18 utc | 161

@canuck | May 20 2024 11:25 utc | 156
“Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.”
Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 11:45 utc | 157
Why didn’t you put that comment to Tom Ass. as he went after Per AU numerous times; I had but one post.
If you want to be a respected referee I would strongly suggest you should be fair, not biased.

Posted by: canuck | May 20 2024 13:15 utc | 162

re UWDude | May 20 2024 8:44 utc
When I say it is driven by ego, that is because the post made is so lacking in facts or argument I have concluded it must be ego that inspired the person to post it. An example would be someone who ignores the point of view in a post but instead directly denigrates a poster which kinda reminds me of people who criticise a poem because it has a A,B,A,B rhyming pattern and is written in iambic pentameter yet it never discusses the subject or the imagery of the poem – sheer egoism.
Another example would be those who on the basis of zero evidence decides that every incident that happens & is mentioned here is always the result of a conspiracy. It is a worthless post in terms of information and it is so frequently incorrect. Why do people post that stuff? After years of observing this I have decided that it mostly comes from people who have a need to make a post even though it is entirely valueless. That certainly looks like someone putting their own needs ahead of anyone else’s ie ego. Worst of all it devalues the tag.
There are many genuine conspiracies but calling everything which happens a conspiracy reflexively causes people to stop listening when an actual provable conspiracy is uncovered.
Only an arsehole pulls up another poster, denigrates them offering no new information just an unfiltered opinion; if that isn’t a mixture of a selfish one up-manship try & egoism I dunno what is.
But then this goes to the heart of why is it that so many seppo self-professed lefties cannot grasp solidarity.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 20 2024 13:51 utc | 163

It appears that b turned on a feature of the blog that silently trashes comments posted over VPN. It says “your comment was posted” but it never appears.

Posted by: RB | May 20 2024 14:10 utc | 164

Who cut the cheese? This is turning into a very hard problem: Have you ever heard of the Mars Methane Mystery?

Planetary scientists perk up whenever methane is mentioned. Methane is produced by living things on Earth, so it’s considered to be a potential biosignature elsewhere. In recent years, MSL Curiosity detected methane coming from the surface of Gale Crater on Mars. So far, nobody’s successfully explained where it’s coming from.
NASA scientists have some new ideas.

https://www.universetoday.com/167003/new-answers-for-mars-methane-mystery/
It sure looks as if bacteria inhabit subsurface water reservoirs on Mars. Life on Mars?! I have not yet found a chemist to explain how a non-biological source of methane might work.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 20 2024 14:31 utc | 165

Roger
“I have been to a number of orthodox Marxist discussions and conferences which are the very opposite of the pragmatic revolutionary drive required to produce and maintain actual existing communist projects.”
Thanks for this, Roger. It really clarifies the issue. You’re a philosophical pragmatist, like Sydney Hook. I’m not. Marx wasn’t either. I think that’s the rub.
Again, you have every right to your perspective, but don’t call it Marxism because it’s not.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 20 2024 15:11 utc | 166

Posted by: RB | May 20 2024 14:10 utc | 164
Testing your thesis…….

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 20 2024 15:20 utc | 167

I fully understand that other news are more important.
Commiserations to Iran and the resistance.
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[I have searched both pages of comments for “Mearsheimer” and saw no comments on it so here goes.]
Mearsheimer.
I thought I couldn’t be certain and I couldn’t know if it is inadvertent or accidental or deliberate. Maybe it’s the price he has to pay to say anything critical at all. Stuff like that. However…
The longer I watch the more convinced I become he’s a straight up US stooge (and oh boy how much fun he’s having).
Showman.
Damage control: say a few things that are true in order to sell some lies.
Easy when “the powers that be” (US and world at large) are so far away from reality that it doesn’t take much to seem at least slightly more sane by comparison.
Mearsheimer at the very beginning says stuff like

“almost everybody though that the Middle East was a quite stable area, there were no big problems”

That has to be an extremely limited “everybody”. I’m not sure who it is supposed to be, well except for Jake Sullivan but I don’t think he really counts lol XD
At about 18 minutes in Mearsheimer says:

“The US is leaning heavily on Israel”

Nope, outright blatant lie to the extent that US insiders (some of them in the Biden administration) are protesting by quitting their jobs with public renouncement statements and others (at least one, maybe more) are setting themselves on fire and dying.
And slightly later he says it took him until December to see that it was genocide.
…I mean what the fuck?…
“Israel” shut off everything going into Gaza right at the start. All necessities for life shut off.
Then they started bombing and relatively quickly had shot and dropped an amount of conventional ordinance said to be roughly equivalent to (or larger than) that of the nuclear bomb used on Hiroshima.
You’re too far away Mearsheimer, much too far away.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And a good deal later on he seem to be trying to sell or set the stage for a narrative of an “accidental” genocide.
Be aware of this! It is a lie.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are people like Mearsheimer the reason no one in power actually does anything against “Israel” beyond talk, or continues to support them?
Are they a (contrived or not) alibi for claiming to be listening?
Not sure what was going on since Mearsheimer verbally stumbled a bit earlier but then again when he said that the US/”the west” were trying to do everything they can to feed the Palestinians. He almost didn’t get the words out since the lie wanted to stay in his throat.
Because that is so obviously not true at all, what little has been done was always (and still is) clearly not going to be enough.
Mearsheimer must know that without any doubt based simply on what he himself says in this talk.
That was some of the worst from the first twenty.
Watch some minutes more and you might think the talk/narrative is heading straight to Crazyville (or Hollywood/La-la land).
He’s selling 2006 as “Israeli” escalation dominance? Again what the bloody hell! I can barely watch this (more than an hour left).
Okay I’m taking a break and posting.
There’s a lot more, people should notice it themselves, there’s so much narrative being sold, so much spin, but the car is broke, it’s cheap but broke and only a good deal if you own a tow truck 😛

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 20 2024 15:24 utc | 168

Posted by: canuck | May 20 2024 13:15 utc | 162
Lol.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 15:56 utc | 169

Posted by: canuck | May 20 2024 11:25 utc | 156
I’m proud to be an asshole from (around) El Paso. So long as I’m contributing facts, unlike you. Peter was off his rocker but he’s a great guy. You’re just an AI generative language model bot. Stopped clock principle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n__tAHR5ErM

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:00 utc | 170

The murder of Lumumba.
And….
How Hillary enforcer Clinton single handedly snatched a mineral contract outta China’s hand.
Just look at Clinton’s utter contempt to her hosts during the interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_dOZIiuHZo

Posted by: denk | May 20 2024 16:09 utc | 171

Amongst the [five liars],
NZ was once regarded as the least offensive, followed by Canada.
These days, Canada is vying with Oz to be USAss most sinophopic deputy,
Even NZ is creeping towards the family’s anti chinese bandwagon.
The bar seems to be crawling with Canauck trolls, led by the resident poop

Posted by: denk | May 20 2024 16:24 utc | 172

@Aleph_Null | May 20 2024 14:31 utc | 165

It sure looks as if bacteria inhabit subsurface water reservoirs on Mars. Life on Mars?! I have not yet found a chemist to explain how a non-biological source of methane might work.

We know of 2 possible explanations for Methane in the Martian atmosphere
1. Biological activity
2. Active volcanoes
Both explanations are revolutionary. Methane in the Martian atmosphere is quickly destroyed, so …

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:25 utc | 173

@Aleph_Null | May 20 2024 14:31 utc | 165
@Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:25 utc | 173
By the way, the atmosphere of Saturns moon Titan has a dense atmosphere (1 ATM) of Methane, and also liquid Methane seas. Methane is a hydrocarbon, and the abundance of Methane on Titan disproves the hypothesis that hydrocarbons have a unique biological origin (unless you want to tell me when life died out on Titan). This fact is politically inconvenient in some circles, but nevertheless a fact.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:35 utc | 174

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:35 utc | 174
Not sure where you’re reading that hydrocarbons can only come from biological “life”?
Methane occurs in numerous places with no history of cellular biological life.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:41 utc | 175

@Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:41 utc | 175
Agreed, but the climate alarmists claim all hydrocarbons are “fossil”.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:42 utc | 176

Speaking of abiotic geological methane generation, is there a similarly rigorous explanation for supposed abiotic generation of more complex hydrocarbons like oil? Genuinely curious.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:46 utc | 177

@Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:46 utc | 177
Abiotic Oil and Gas: A Theory That Refuses To Vanish

In the West it is almost universally held that all oil and gas is derived from fossils. This is not the case elsewhere, particularly among Russian and Ukrainian scientists who have, over several generations, tenaciously propounded the notion that oil and gas are abiotic, can be found deep below the surface of the earth in most parts of the world and in very large amounts.

All you need is Hydrogen, Carbon in combination with high pressure and temperature.

The prevailing abiotic theory is that the full complement of hydrocarbons found in oil and gas are generated in the mantle (40 to 90 miles below the surface of the earth) by non-biological processes. These hydrocarbons then migrate out of the mantle into the crust where they escape or are trapped by impermeable strata that lead to reservoir formation.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:52 utc | 178

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:42 utc | 176
Not sure what happened to my previous reply. Phone fritzed out on me. I was going to say that I’d be careful to take a more nuanced approach to the climate debate. Some of us aren’t swayed by the profiteering NGO/think tank/corporate greenwashing arguments, but are also not willing to get sucked into the black/white – up/down – this way or that trend of discussing these matters.
Previous longtime posters who are otherwise seemingly quite intelligent like c1ue were perfect examples of the wrong kind of discussion. Could not separate the partisan politics from the…pardon the use of the word, but in this case it’s true…science.
Myself, I’m interested in reducing pollution and trying to suss out fact from fiction. You don’t see any evidence presented of denser hydrocarbons like what we call “oil” on other planets. And the people studying those things have no skin in the game of the “climate debate.”
That’s all I’m saying.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:55 utc | 179

“China Has Gotten the Trade War It Deserves – Atlantic”
How dare them Ch*nks be a little bit prosperous! They must always be poor and backwards!
lester

Posted by: lester | May 20 2024 16:58 utc | 180

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:52 utc | 178
Right. I’m aware of that – but check out my reply to the previous post. When has anyone – including cosmologists or astronomers or planetary scientists ever postulated (or shown thru this way or another) that oil or the like exists on other non-Earth planets in the galaxy or universe?
Again, I’m just genuinely curious on this subject. I’m not an ideologue.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:58 utc | 181

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 16:52 utc | 178
I must be having Internet or other issues here (NSA?! just kidding) but my replies to you aren’t showing up.
Tired of typing on this crap little phony KB so I’ll just pose the ? – has anyone ever proposed the notion that dense hydrocarbons like what we call “oil” are present on any other planet in the universe?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 17:04 utc | 182

@Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:55 utc | 179
Climate: Don’t get sucked in. Study the facts for yourself.

You don’t see any evidence presented of denser hydrocarbons like what we call “oil” on other planets.

It depends on what you will accept as evidence. At least there is speculation.
https://oilonmars.blogspot.com/2012/09/is-there-really-oil-on-mars-within.html
I think Methane seas count as “denser hydrocarbons”. The NASA Cassini probe and the Huygens lander directly observed Methane seas on Titan https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/cassini-explores-a-methane-sea-on-titan

A new study finds that a large sea on Saturn’s moon Titan is composed mostly of pure liquid methane, independently confirming an earlier result.

As for abiotic oil, here is a paper (Review of Geophysics)
Deep-seated abiogenic origin of petroleum: From geological assessment to physical theory

Abstract
[1] The theory of the abyssal abiogenic origin of petroleum is a significant part of the modern scientific theories dealing with the formation of hydrocarbons. These theories include the identification of natural hydrocarbon systems, the physical processes leading to their terrestrial concentration, and the dynamic processes controlling the migration of that material into geological reservoirs of petroleum. The theory of the abyssal abiogenic origin of petroleum recognizes that natural gas and petroleum are primordial materials of deep origin which have migrated into the Earth’s crust. Experimental results and geological investigations presented in this article convincingly confirm the main postulates of the theory and allow us to reexamine the structure, size, and locality distributions of the world’s hydrocarbon reserves.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 17:09 utc | 183

Reviews of Geophysics
Deep-seated abiogenic origin of petroleum: From geological assessment to physical theory
Vladimir G. Kutcherov, Vladilen A. Krayushkin
First published: 12 March 2010
https://doi.org/10.1029/2008RG000270
Citations: 38
Posted by: Norwegian | May 20 2024 17:09 utc | 183
I had heard about this years ago. Thanks for the great link.

Posted by: David G Horsman | May 20 2024 17:13 utc | 184

Until the coming of industrial capitalism, nourished within the imperial system, nobody, this side of satanists, dared to promote a theory in which the great majority of people were farmed for the benefit of the few and in which famine, inadequate shelter, wage slavery and premzature deaths were celebrated as incentives to work.

Posted by: bevin | May 19 2024 18:19 utc | 17
Salaam bevin.
This was an interesting take on history. Whatever happened to satanists? It’s one day here and next day ‘poof’. Whew, that was a close call. They sounded nasty. Thanks be to God we only have to deal with “capitalists” and “empire”, and looks like they are gonna go ‘poof’ too, thanks to “virtuous” aunti-imperialists.
Also interested in your views on “no virtue without terror and no terror without virtue”. In context of the “5th columnists” you mentioned.
Thank you.

Posted by: sunof27 | May 20 2024 17:28 utc | 185

sorry about that! should have previewed.

Posted by: sunof27 | May 20 2024 17:54 utc | 187

SP Korolev @36
It is such a hot weekend here in southern Ontario at the 45th parallel that gardening takes up most of my time but I agree with you about Polanyi’s double movement. I think that, for what its worth, Marx would have too.
Nothing is less profitable than a theological dispute among the remnants of the fan clubs that grew up after the debates in the Soviet politburo, almost a century ago, had settled down, for better or worse into practice.
I am a great admirer of Trotsky’s writings but to call him, as Ahenobarbus does, the last word in Marxism is to retreat into religion and the conformity of congregants.
The point is that society cannot afford capitalism, it cannot survive within it. It doesn’t need a ‘revolutionary party’to tell it: experience is doing that.
As a matter of fact Marx understood this. It was the basis of his faith that the proletariat would overthrow capitalism and he derived it from his observations of Chartism and the Ten Hours movement, his reading of Cobbett and, together with Engels, his study of the ways in which industrial capitalism had transformed the working class into a condition worse than chattel slavery, in material terms.
The world has taught humanity many lessons since Marx died and Trotsky’s commentary ended- nthing could be more reactionary and less calculated to advance the class struggle than to pretend otherwise and attempt to view the Imperialism crumbling around us by fitting it into Capital, Results and Prospects or the pragmatic responses that Lenin made to the crisis in 1917.

Posted by: bevin | May 20 2024 17:58 utc | 188

@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 20 2024 15:11 utc | 166
You sound just like a religious fundamentalist, as I have found with so many that I have discussed issues with at conferences. Marx’s work was never meant to be treated in such a venerated way but built upon as the world changed and more insights developed. As people such as Gramsci, Mao etc. did. We can agree to disagree. It is ironic that Trotsky was ever the pragmatist when he was actually in power, he understood that managing an actual revolutionary phase needs more than dogma.

Posted by: Roger | May 20 2024 18:46 utc | 189

In defense of Marx against idiotic slander: Cobbett was NOT a major influence on Marx! Cobbett was not a Chartist but was virulently anti-French, anti-abolitionist, railed against Joseph Priestley as a traitor to England, preached for gold, wrote a book to teach cottagers how to be more independent of any trade, so on and so on. Even his emphasis on personal corruption as the cause of all political problems didn’t fit with Marx. Cobbett of course had many estimable points, such as fighting pocket boroughs. Of course for a Trumpist commentariat this position against unequal votes for people in the name of equal “votes” for acreage (you know, Montana has acreage and California has acreage, so they get equal votes in the Senate) this is only a plus for people who don’t know anything about Cobbett whatsoever. The purpose here appears to be, demean Marx and exalt reaction in one fell swoop!
And personally maybe I’ve missed the places where Marx and Engels claimed wage slavery was materially worse than chattel slavery. I hope this is just an outright falsification. Because there were many places where chattel slavery was so brutal that it killed off the people so that more slaves had to be imported! My decades old reading of Engels’ Conditions does not bring to mind any passages whatsoever talking about how the factory owners had to keep importing farmhands from the countryside because the town wage workers were dying off en masse. But if Marx and Engels did say this, I will say, they were wrong about that and we should either forthrightly call it a mistake, or ignore Marx and Engels completely. Pick one, but you can’t agree with such a harebrained claim. It is good MAGA politics but it would be a lie.

Posted by: steven t johnson | May 20 2024 19:08 utc | 190

@bevin #188; Roger # 189
Broadly agree. Marxism is not frozen in time. It is essentially processual, dynamic, and its key insights developed as the historical context moves on to the history of the present where it must prove its mettle in how it first provides an understanding which then informs how we react, and act, where possible, to where we are at. This is what I refer to as the ‘broad Marxist tradition’ which informs one’s view of the world.
As a critical social scientific method it has more than proved its mettle and continues to do so.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 20 2024 19:19 utc | 191

@Posted by: Don Firineach | May 20 2024 19:19 utc | 191
Then I am a “broad Marxist”!
And on another topic:
When I was younger I was taught by the Western media that Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe was a bad person. This video shows the truth of brutal Western sanctions designed to punish Zimbabweans for taking back their land without compensation. The US attempted to completely destroy Zimbabwe. They wanted to create another Haiti, forcing Zimbabwe to take on a large debt to compensate the European colonists for the taking back of “their” land.
It also shows the importance of a counterweight to the Western neo-colonials, such as the Soviet Union was and now China and Russia are. This video covers the reality of Zimbabwe’s experience well:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lno409hSXbE
China has helped rescue Zimbabwe from its destruction and subjugation by the West. Unfortunately for South Africa, the Western ruling classes got to some of the ANC’s leadership in exile and made sure that it would throw away its socialist traditions and embrace neoliberalism on coming to power. For the vast majority of Black South Africans not much really changed, very much an Animal Farm story with traitorous segments of the ANC joining with the white ruling class. The result is the critical infrastructure issues that South Africa now experiences, as detailed in this article in Jacobin https://jacobin.com/2023/11/south-africa-apartheid-water-energy-crisis-neoliberalism-privatization
Without China and Russia, Africa would still be at the mercy of the neo-colonial extractors.

Posted by: Roger | May 20 2024 21:51 utc | 192

@Roger #192
Thanks for those links. Those sanctions on Zimbabwe were horrendous – the country is rich in fertile land and minerals. Yes, China provides some hope and the Soviet Union was key to assisting the liberation movement but, that said, the Zanu-PF leadership has descended into corruption [such as the gold finding its way to Dubai and then into its bank accounts] and is, at times, brutal towards its own population. I continue to meet Shona and Ndebele who fled for better lives in Western Europe – as distinct from being able to contribute to progress in their homeland. Its economic migrants in South Africa also experience black racism.
Its people were so positive and vibrant in the early 1980s but it is presently unable to feed its own population despite some of the richest land in Africa. Rather than help progress, as the video notes, the Western elites set out to destroy. 40 wasted years ….
We can discuss SA some other time.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 21 2024 2:37 utc | 193

When has anyone… ever postulated… that oil or the like exists on other non-Earth planets in the galaxy or universe?
@ Tom_Q_Collins | May 20 2024 16:58 utc | 181

Y’all have me reading around with wild abandon. Astrophysicist Thomas Gold (1920-2004) wrote “The Deep, Hot Biosphere” in 1992, largely introducing ideas about possible abiotic hydrocarbon formation to readers of English.
Such literature promptly reverts to chemical equations. That’s one of the hurdles remaining (probably forever) on my bucket list: learning how to interpret the equations of organic chemistry. Meanwhile, I found this survey from AGU which looks like geoscience to me:

Biotic methane (CH4), produced either by microbial processes or by thermogenic degradation of organic matter in sedimentary rocks, is widespread on Earth and forms the major commercial natural gas reservoirs driving the global economy. Abiotic (or abiogenic) CH4, formed by chemical reactions that do not directly include organic matter, is produced in much smaller amounts on a global scale, and is not found in economically exploitable reservoirs, apart from rare and controversial exceptions [e.g., Dai et al., 2005; Ni et al., 2009; Jin et al., 2009]. In most geologic environments biotic and abiotic gases are mixed, and notwithstanding the modern molecular and isotopic analytical and interpretative tools, in many cases it is not easy (or even possible) to distinguish them. Nevertheless, unraveling abiotic from biotic CH4 would be extremely important in a wide range of scientific fields.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/rog.20011

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 21 2024 2:55 utc | 194

chris hedges from today
The Slow-Motion Execution of Julian Assange Continues

Posted by: james | May 21 2024 3:24 utc | 195

Sahid Bolsen – All They Israel and the West Have Left is Propaganda
– also discusses helicopter crash disinformation and false India accusations.
7 mins only quick road to thinking better and to switch people off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtvr69RhIgQ
……….. all of these stories are
based on presumptions that people have
uh assumptions that people have biases
that people have which they think are
the same things as as facts they think
it’s the same thing as information
therefore my my my own uh biases my own
assumptions or whatever are sufficient
to inform me about why anything happens
in the world even though none of it is
backed by factual information and if you
put together in that stew of your
presumptions and your assumptions and
your biases and your bigotries and your
prejudices and your preconceived notions
if you put in there also facts then all
of your your own ingredients will melt
away it’ll all be dissolved uh by by the
facts
like it’s a like it’s a it’s a
it’s a bucket of ice is all of your
presumptions and your preconceived
notions and then you pour in the hot
water of facts and there’s nothing left
but the facts uh but you’re not
interested in that you just want to have
your you you want the world to be the
way you want the world to be
so you want
for example a war a region wide War you
want uh RI to have been assassinated and
you want Iran to now retaliate full
scale war against Israel for all of that
but the bad news for you is that
governments don’t make decisions based
on your tweets your tweets are not
regarded as actionable intelligence for
government uh for for governments around
the world so you’re only talking to each
other you’re having no impact so but
but that’s the good news of that is
that that’s the only weapon that the
west and the zionists have left is you
incompetent ineffective not influential
uh people on X and Facebook and wherever
else just talking to each other but
nobody believes you people will spread
all of that because it’s entertainment
It’s Entertainment
this is all being spread by people and being
believed by people who don’t actually
have any interest in in uh International
Affairs they don’t actually have any
interest in it at all — they’re only
talking about it because there’s no
football game last night for them to
talk about
did you have something to say no
just the I mean just the fact that he
has died he’s died and he’s been
replaced by the Vice President exactly
it’s not like some huge like oh well he
died I knew it 3 hours ago it yeah you
didn’t yeah you don’t get any points for
that you don’t get any any special
points yeah even if you’re accidentally
right
your process is wrong yeah so
even even your conclusion is still wrong
because you based it on no logical
rational informed intelligent critical
thinking process correct this is what we
mean like what do you what does the
death of well I mean the death of RI
means that he’ll be replaced by the Vice
President that’s all it means and the
vice president as far as I know will
just uh continue through whatever the
term was that’s it uh now if it was
proved to be an actual assassination
that’s a whole other story correct but
it is entirely too early for anyone to
even begin speculating about something
like that but they were ready to
speculate about it before you even
confirm that the helicopter crashed
which just shows you’re not a serious
person and no one should take you
seriously and if you’re following
someone who was saying that in the we
hours of the morning you should unfollow
them and if they had any shame or any
dignity or any self-respect they would
just close their accounts or just start
tweeting about anime instead of trying
to talk about geopolitics again
LD (smile)

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 21 2024 7:05 utc | 196

Re: bad weather flying ?
Generally ‘fog’ isn’t considered bad weather for flying – one climbs above the fog and clear skies. Fog also suggests nil wind which is a good thing in mountains
Of course this leads to questions of how high were the mountains and what is rated CLG of the helicopter.
Maybe the reports of ‘Fog’ really mean ‘dense cloud cover’ .
==========
On another tangent – my take on the JFK crash was the 2 girls were pressuring him to fly that day. He simply had very little experience (flight hours) and got totally confused on the approach to the Cape in the clouds. Solo in cockpit with 2 yapping gals on board . ( been there done that)
I blame his flight instructor for not hammering home the dictums of :
1) time to spare go by air
2) there are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old, bold pilots

Posted by: Exile | May 21 2024 7:56 utc | 197

Pelham
@Resist_05
Christian Malanga the man behind the failed coup in DRC is seen greeting Israeli occupying forces in the occupied West Bank in Palestine…
The coup comes 4 days after the Biden administration announced they would lift sanctions on corrupt Israeli billionaire Dan Gertler…
Gertler has made his fortune through blood diamonds and illegal child slavery cobalt mines in the DRC…
Former head of Mossad Spy Agency, Yossi Cohen who was deported and banned from the DRC is said to be behind the coup…
The Biden Administration wants to build rail networks throughout the DRC to maximise the rare earths crucial for net zero technologies…
Removing the current government is key to the plans and replacing them with Israeli-American alliances
https://x.com/Resist_05/status/1792682321654784002

Posted by: Menz | May 21 2024 9:58 utc | 198

Capitalism is incompatible with Human survival.

We’ve been stuck at this point for literally decades. The Limits to Growth, Club of Rome times. For 50 years we have known that there are no scientific-technical solutions that allow capitalism to be maintained , but for 50 years we have been putting all the weight of the discussion on scientific-technical solutions. It is the doctrine of solutionism.
It is the mental framework of the enemy.
We think with the enemy’s mental framework, which makes it impossible to find any solution.
The industrialists ( of whom we already talked a few weeks ago ), those people who think that the only possible energy transition model is one based on renewable energy installations on an industrial scale to produce energy on an industrial scale with the sole and declared objective of maintaining current industrial civilization on the same scale as today, they do not accept that there can be any other framework for discussion. They continually shout and insist that this is the only framework for discussion, and that those who leave it are catastrophists, collapsists or, in the best of cases, politically naive.
Meanwhile, as we already mentioned , we are moving steadily towards another price shock in oil and possibly in natural gas, while the repetition of curtailments and zero or negative prices not only in Spain but throughout Europe shows that the Renewable Electric Industrial (REI) is failing, with the logical general nervousness, mutual attacks between various electricity generators, and very long and boring (apart from technically weak) explanations by alleged energy gurus on why this is not a problem and that There is a bright future for the REI (and it will not be because it had not been warned, myself in the Parliament of Catalonia in September 2022 at a time when the honorable people who were listening to me could stop looking at their cell phones).
As if this were not enough, the environmental crisis continues. The planet’s radiative imbalance reaches 2 watts per square meter, an extraordinarily high value (the last ice age ended with a temporary imbalance four times smaller). The AMOC could collapse. Countless ecosystems around the world could disappear. Plastics and other toxic substances enter our bloodstream. Fresh water is scarce. Drought is a global phenomenon that puts millions of people in food danger . All of them problems that the REI not only does not help to solve, but actually aggravates them (including the alleged reduction of CO2 emissions). Problems that do not allow any type of postponement
“So what are the solutions?”
There is only one.
Get out of the enemy’s mental frame.
There is no possible solution within capitalism. There simply isn’t one.
Economic growth is incompatible with environmental preservation. This is said by the European Environment Agency itself , which is an agency dependent on the European Commission.
There is no negotiation possible with capitalism. The only thing we can discuss is its completion, if we want to have a future .
The industrialists continue to make noise again and again to prevent us from stopping and realizing that the problem is badly posed. That the problem cannot be solved with more technology, but with more culture, more society, more truly human people. Solutionism distracts us from the real discussion.
During these months I continue speaking with representatives of many very different companies, all of them in the productive sector. All of them are aware of the seriousness of the moment. In fact, for all of them (said by the managers I have spoken with themselves) the key right now is not in growth, but in survival. They are not sure if they can survive, they are desperately looking for methods and ways, of all kinds, to survive.
So, if the industry is clear that the battle is different, who is interested in this solutionism imposed by the industrialists, the same one that is dragging us into the ditch?
Solutionism is only of interest to financial power, since in a post-capitalist world it has no future. The financial sector is the only one that does not and will never accept that the world has changed, because accepting it means accepting that its business is over.
The industrialists, with their crushing solutionism, are speaking only on behalf of financial power. It’s the only one they really represent.
Meanwhile, in the real world, the change we most desperately need is social and cultural. It is embarrassing to see people who say they come from the field of social sciences giving in to the demands of industrialism, accepting that the moment is not “politically ripe” to abandon capitalism (in another example of insulting and condescending paternalism).
Well no. The change we need is cultural, it is social, it is economic, it is political and it is radical, since we need to go to the root of the problem. We need to get out of the enemy’s mental framework, and start thinking for ourselves, to be free, to breathe.
And to these who do not see themselves capable of abandoning the enemy’s mental framework I would say that if they are not going to help, they should get out of the way and not get in the way – if their ego allows it.

read the rest – machine translation – here
The enemy’s mental framework
https://crashoil-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2024/04/el-marco-mental-del-enemigo.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 21 2024 10:41 utc | 199

Don’t you dare talk about da da da degrowth!

In the last two months, I have had the opportunity to participate in several national (Spanish) television and radio programs. In all of them we have talked about degrowth, always with the excuse of the words of the Queen of Spain but always going much further in the discussion. I would have preferred a thousand times if they had spoken with academics who have worked in Spain (Joan Martínez Alier) or work (Giorgos Kallis, Jason Hickel, Xoan Doldán, Óscar Carpintero, Íñigo Capellán, etc.) about degrowth and who have quite a few jobs technical and practical on the issue;
But the problem is that the media prefers to talk to those people on whom public attention has been focused for one reason or another. So I have tried to defend the idea of ​​degrowth as best I could, thinking that in any case at this moment the important thing is to introduce the concept into public discussion and those who will broaden the horizons will come later.
The most curious thing about the current moment is how the word “degrowth” is appearing more frequently and in the most unexpected places. A few days ago, in an interview with Salvador Illa, leader of the Catalan socialists and foreseeable candidate to preside over the Generalitat of Catalonia, he proposed his development model: candidacy for the next Winter Olympic Games (in a community where snow is scarce in the mountains), extension of the third runway of the El Prat airport (on the sea, when increasingly extreme events are anticipated and it will be difficult to maintain the currently existing infrastructure ) and a macrocasino near Barcelona (to attract more tourists? In a city already overwhelmed by tourist pressure? And what kind of tourists? And not to mention the more than foreseeable decline in tourism in a situation of deindustrialization in Europe and continued recession…).
The fact is that suddenly and without realizing it, Mr. Illa said that the drought (in Catalonia it is breaking historical records, 3 years in a row now) could not be taken advantage of to “try to impose degrowth.” It is a very interesting double lapse, that of Mr. Illa. Firstly, because obviously no one imposes degrowth: at most, it will be proposed from some academic circles, but certainly not from any real power structure. That Mr. Illa says this means that he feels threatened by this idea of ​​degrowth, to the point that he believes that it is trying to impose itself in some way. The second part of the lapse is that, transposing the terms of his sentence, it is understood that Mr. Illa believes that it is possible to try to impose growth.
The problem with growth is that it cannot be imposed, even less so than degrowth. And growth requires physical conditions: increasing amounts of energy and resources must be available (just to start and not to mention environmental limitations, which are increasingly determining). And since that is what is beginning to be most noticeably scarce, the problem is that growth does not occur due to pure physical impossibility. That is why Mr. Illa feels threatened, but he does not understand that what threatens growth is not degrowth, but Thermodynamics (or, ultimately, the very idea of ​​growing forever on a finite planet, drowned in its own and irresolvable contradictions).
Not only that, but it is currently anticipated that the decline in oil production will accelerate in the coming years: Saudi Arabia renounces its production expansion plans and in the US a certain slowdown in oil production is anticipated. fracking (and don’t lose sight of the suspension of new North American exports of natural gas ). And that’s not to mention the numerous countries that are experiencing a never-before-seen shortage of fuel, particularly diesel ( for a reason ), a danger that also lurks to Europe and especially when one of the repeated demands in the farmers’ protests these days is that of a reduction in the price of diesel. Therefore, it is surprisingly foolish to deny the data that show that what is costing to maintain is oil production, and not precisely its consumption, no matter how desirable it would be for the latter to be falling.
It is also characteristic of these future deputy general directors of something (that new Hispanic class, the subdalgos) to consider that the only option that exists to fight Climate Change is to bet everything on the energy transition model based on Renewable Industrial Electricity (REI). . The REI consists of a model of large renewable electricity generation parks, distributed over long distances through the high voltage network to the current large centers of consumption and industrial production. The problem with the REI is the same uncomfortable questions we asked 3 years ago that are still relevant today. Worse still, when with each passing day the evidence accumulates that the REI model does not work:

The cost of denying degrowth
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https://crashoil-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2024/02/el-coste-de-negar-el-decrecimiento.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 21 2024 10:50 utc | 200