The Al-Aqsa Flood Operation Is - Despite All Damage - Effectual
On Monday Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah held a speech which to a large part explained the Al-Aqsa Flood Operation and why it can be seen as a success. (Nasrallah is currently the public spokesperson for the various Resistance groups involved in the current fight):
Sayyed Nasrallah maintained that the Palestinian resistance wanted Al-Aqsa Flood Operation to be a chance to revitalize the Palestinian cause and remind the whole world with the Palestine and Palestinian rights thrown in the oblivion.On the other hand, some Arab regimes promoted ‘Israel’ as a normal entity that preserves democracy, according to Hezbollah leader, who added that the steadfastness of women, children and resistance fighters in Gaza has changed this situation.
Nowadays, Palestinian and the Palestinian rights are being highlighted all over the world, Sayyed Nasrallah said, adding that over 140 states voted for granting Palestine a full UN membership.
Sayyed Nasrallah affirmed that the Israeli envoy’s act of shredding a copy of UN Charter over a vote in favor of Palestinian rights displays the Zionist arrogance and carelessness about the international resolutions.
The most important political media scene that reflects the victory of the Palestinian resistance is the moment the Israeli UN envoy raised the picture of Hamas military commander Yahya Al-Sinwar.
Another expression of the success is the fact that Israel has achieved not even one of its war aims:
Sayyed Nasrallah mentioned that the Israelis tell the Zionist officials that three main targets of the war–eradicating Hamas, liberating the captives, and protecting the settlements from Gaza missiles– have not been achieved yet.Hezbollah leader said that Hamas continues fighting the Zionist occupation forces across Gaza, holding most of the Israeli captives, and firing missiles at the Zionist settlements in the south of occupied Palestine.
Sayyed Nasrallah added that the Israelis also failed to achieve the implicit targets, including displacing Gaza locals, noting that the Gazans showed a great steadfastness against this scheme.
Alaistair Crooke described the Resistance strategy as designed to exhaust Israel:
Seyed Hassan Nasrallah (as the spokesman for the unity of Resistance Fronts) has made clear that the aim of the Resistance is to exhaust "Israel" -- and to drive it to a state of defeat and despair -- such that Israelis begin to recant the claim of special rights and exceptionalism, and become content to live ‘between the River and the Sea’ with others (Palestinians), sharing in a parity of rights. That is, with Jews, Muslims and Christians living on a common territory. There would then be no Zionism.Seyed Nasrallah explicitly foresaw the possibility of such an outcome emerging -- without major war.
I do not yet see such a situation evolving. Israel has instead descended into barbarism.
But current headlines of the Times of Israel do reflect the heavy strain Israel is under:
- 5 soldiers killed, 7 hurt in ‘friendly fire’ incident in northern Gaza’s Jabaliya
- IDF confirms Hezbollah drone hit a sensitive military site; damage being assessed
- Hezbollah fires dozens of rockets, claims to target army bases; IDF strikes Lebanon
- Gallant to PM: Reject Israeli military, civil rule of Gaza after Hamas; I won’t allow it
Defense Minister Gallant is as right-wing as Israel's Prime Minister Natanyahoo but a bit more realistic. The Biden administration is currently trying to install him as the Prime Minister of a less radical Israel government.
The required marketing campaign for this is run through David Ignatius' Washington Post column (archived):
It’s time for Israel to begin building a Palestinian security force in Gaza that can provide stability there after the political power of Hamas is broken, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said in a blunt briefing this week.“The idea is simple,” Gallant told me. “We will not allow Hamas to control Gaza. We don’t want Israel to control it, either. What is the solution? Local Palestinian actors backed by international actors.” Gallant’s frank comments mark a turn in the Israeli government’s debate about governance and security issues in Gaza, known by the shorthand phrase “the day after.” His views are widely shared by the defense and security establishment but opposed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his right-wing coalition.
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Biden administration officials say Gallant has taken a larger role in U.S.-Israeli dialogue in recent months, as relations have soured between Netanyahu and President Biden. One U.S. official described Gallant as an “indispensable” problem-solver in the increasingly tense debate about how to end the war in Gaza.
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In January, Gallant released a public plan that stated his central point: “Gaza residents are Palestinian, therefore Palestinian bodies will be in charge, with the condition that there will be no hostile actions or threats against Israel.” He proposed a multinational task force to help stabilize Gaza including U.S., European and Arab partners, with Egypt playing a special role as a “major actor.”
The idea is stupid.
Some heavily bribed remands of the Palestinian Authority selected by Israel and guarded by foreign occupation forces will never be able to rule Gaza.
As Amal Saad, a British-Lebanese scholar of all things related to the Resistance, concludes:
Hamas has not only weathered the storm of Israel's scorched earth policy but has emerged more resilient and adaptive in the face of this approach. Rather than breaking its resolve, Israel's overkill strategy has unwittingly fostered a more robust and determined adversary, and allowed it to rally support in Palestine and beyond.Given these realities on the ground, Israel's misguided belief that it can handpick Gaza's future government borders on delusion. Far from weakening Hamas' grip on power, the war has paradoxically served to solidify the movement's status as the only legitimate and effective governing force in Gaza.
This does not bode well for the Zionist settler state:
This rare phenomenon, where one of the world's best-equipped militaries has its weaknesses laid bare for its enemies to exploit, has not only sealed Israel's fate in the current conflict but predetermined its failure in future wars. The acknowledgment of its military shortcomings, diminished morale among its troops and the growing confidence of its emboldened foes, all point to an inevitable outcome: a series of future defeats that will further erode Israel's once-formidable military reputation, strategic position in the region and even its survival.
I do not know enough of the internal dynamics of the Resistance to judge on this but that experts see a chance of such an outcome gives me some hope.
Posted by b on May 16, 2024 at 13:40 UTC | Permalink
next page »Oh my, I wouldn't characterize the operation as a success when your enemy is killing civvies by the boatload every day.
But then again, no government democratic or otherwise can claim to put the people's interests over their own.
Posted by: Dingleberry | May 16 2024 13:52 utc | 2
Israel can choose an outcome, but neither One State nor Two State are acceptable.
Posted by: Polli | May 16 2024 13:59 utc | 3
Oh my, I wouldn't characterize the operation as a success when your enemy is killing civvies by the boatload every day.
But then again, no government democratic or otherwise can claim to put the people's interests over their own.
Posted by: Dingleberry | May 16 2024 13:52 utc | 2
All Gaza(, and west bank), was about to get politically check-mated (and sooner or later driven out or killed).
Was it worth 30.000+ innocent killed civilians? Madeleine Albright would say it was cheap if she was on the Palestinian side. I think Hamas had no idea that israel would go full wrath of god on them.
Now the eggs are broken, might as well make a nice omelette ...
Posted by: Newbie | May 16 2024 14:03 utc | 4
🔴LIVE: ICJ Hears Genocide Case Against Israel | DAWN News English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBS9umw8fk
Well, Genocide charge at the ICJ against Israel
... and back again 4 months later.
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 14:04 utc | 5
"... This rare phenomenon, where one of the world's best-equipped militaries has its weaknesses laid bare for its enemies to exploit ..."
[Amal Saad, British-Lebanese scholar]
With much respect, it may be a rare phenomenon today, but the definition does apply to the creation of the United States itself, though certainly other aspects pertain.
Thank you for Nazrallah's speech, b. Only he could have given it. And thank you for this remarkable post; in the history of this site, this is the best one you have given us. Please be very proud of yourself.
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 14:07 utc | 6
Great piece.
It speaks well of the Resistance that they see Jews, Muslims and Christians all living together 'between the river and the sea' with Zionism finally renounced. Clearly this is the sane way to view it and the ideal outcome. Sadly, I doubt this is realistic since such renunciation on the part of the Jews, even if sincerely made at the beginning, will soon in turn be renounced in favour of a renewed Zionist push.
The root cause and solution are not spelled out: a higher authority with enforcement powers must be established, for authority without such is a toothless tiger. The only authority in this matter thus far has been the Zionist entity which should never have been permitted and must finally be curtailed. Unless and until that happens no solution is possible, as we are now witnessing, be it a sane, democratic One State or two separate states set up with peacekeeping forces guaranteeing the security of each whilst ensuring that neither interferes with the other. The days of Jews having free rein to dominate Palestinians and deny their sovereignty must soon be brought to an end.
@ Dingleberry | May 16 2024 13:52 utc | 2
Success or failure will be determined by the final outcome. A Free Palestinian state will make these sacrifices worthwhile. After all, history teach us that enslaved/subjugated people of all times & places have to shed rivers of blood in order to win their basic rights & freedoms. Like it or not, such are the ways of this particular plane of existence.
Posted by: Memory Man | May 16 2024 14:10 utc | 8
Israel as a settler colonial ethno state is not viable and will likely cease to exist, its demise running parralel with the swift decline of the hegemon, its primary backer.
what comes after -- it is hard for me to imagine Palestinians not seeking vengeance unless some form of justice such as trials for war crimes and genocide are held, so that the ugly past can begin to achieve some form of closure.
a kind of Nuremberg, but with Jews on trial instead. the ironies of the post-Holocaust era abound. the new Nakba killed not just Palestinians but the Holocaust as a a narrative. Hollywood will still pump out new iterations of that narrative but it is a story now demystified, not just ineffectual but as nauseating as the most crass hasbara.
that will never be the same again even if israel magically achieves its stated goals.
Posted by: mastameta | May 16 2024 14:22 utc | 9
The Zionist regime isn't untouchable (as once thought) even with the military might of some western countries backing and defending it.
"Israel confirms Lebanon’s Hezbollah resistance movement has attacked a sensitive military facility from which a giant spy balloon, known as Sky Dew, is operated.
The Israeli military said on Thursday morning that an explosive-laden Hezbollah drone had hit an Israeli airbase, situated some 35 kilometers from the northern border between the occupied territories and Lebanon.
The operation was Hezbollah’s “deepest strike” in the occupied lands since Israel launched its aggression against the Gaza Strip, Israeli media reported.
Before the new operation, the reports added, Hezbollah had fired projectiles at Israeli targets up to around 15 kilometers from the frontier.
On Tuesday, Hezbollah announced that it had targeted and destroyed an Israeli balloon, which used to spy on Lebanon, over the settlement of Adamit.
The resistance group also said that it had struck the balloon’s launch base, control mechanism and personnel, which killed and injured Israeli soldiers."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 16 2024 14:30 utc | 10
Posted by: Memory Man | May 16 2024 14:10 utc | 8
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Excellent point. The more valuable the reward, the more costly the price. The people who expect freedom to come from negotiations and committee meetings are not realistic about human nature or history.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 16 2024 14:31 utc | 11
Another clarifying aspect of Nasrallah's speech is that the Jews must be soundly defeated. Only that will cause a national shift in mentality. The same is true for the Jewish-run regime in Ukraine which as of May 20th will have no legal President. For sure RF will not negotiate with an illegitimate regime. At some point a similar situation may unfold with the Zionist entity with only an illegitimate husk remaining ostensibly in charge.
In both cases, after defeat will come change. I doubt RF will negotiate with either before their defeat unfolds in a manner which is undeniably decisive, engendering a level of humility not evidenced in either polity for far too long.
"... This rare phenomenon, where one of the world's best-equipped militaries has its weaknesses laid bare for its enemies to exploit ..."
[Amal Saad, British-Lebanese scholar]
With much respect, it may be a rare phenomenon today, but the definition does apply to the creation of the United States itself, though certainly other aspects pertain.
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 14:07 utc | 6
That's an interesting remark, but tell me Juliana, what do you mean?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 16 2024 14:40 utc | 13
Anyone watching the ICH hearing live ?
Please update the bar if you can.
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 14:41 utc | 14
Oh my, I wouldn't characterize the operation as a success when your enemy is killing civvies by the boatload every day.
But then again, no government democratic or otherwise can claim to put the people's interests over their own.
Posted by: Dingleberry | May 16 2024 13:52 utc | 2
I get bored of such pithy yet thoughtless, cynical statements about war & government etc.
The fact of the matter is the population if Gaza was penned up to slowly whither & die, even as the West Bank was getting salami sliced.
However they didn't do their part and agree to fade away quietly.
Posted by: Urban Fox | May 16 2024 14:42 utc | 15
There was a ceasefire in-place on 6 Oct. Paleo barbarians broke the ceasefire 07 Oct and are currently reaping the benefits…according to b.
I hate to break it to the assorted communists and lovers of death who make-up the bulk of commenters on this ridiculous site, but Hamas has lost. The average Paleo will be the beneficiary, in the long run.
Posted by: Hamasisevil | May 16 2024 14:42 utc | 16
Unfortunately, reality shows that Israel is the most powerful nation in the world. It is the only nation in the world that can commit any sin without suffering any punishment.
Posted by: CIROC | May 16 2024 14:44 utc | 17
Posted by: scorpion | May 16 2024 14:37 utc | 12
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As with Ukraine, an admission of defeat will only come when America allows it.
I have spent some time this morning reviewing Trump on Israel and Zionism over the last 8 years. Or as I like to remind the bar, "America's first Jewish President".
America is going to make things worse for Israel long before it makes things better. De-dollarization will be essential to stripping the claws and fangs from the Western hegemon so that its many schemes and machinations collapse from Georgia to Taiwan, to occupied Japan and Germany.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 16 2024 14:46 utc | 18
Posted by: Hamasisevil | May 16 2024 14:42 utc | 16
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Hamas knew that it could not have a ceasefire with a colonizing racial supremacy state run by religious fanatics.
Which has been great for Hamas as it continues to destroy the IDF every day. Not unlike how Iran did one attack with a fraction of its weaponry and exposed Israel as a paper tiger that loves to tear up documents and threaten with nuclear retaliation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 16 2024 14:49 utc | 19
Irish lady now speaking live at ICJ on Israeli Genocide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBS9umw8fk
One child killed or wounded every 10 minutes
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 14:54 utc | 20
Re: the day after
At some point, even David Ignatius will come to terms that the IDF has been defeated. At some point, even the dimmest Likudnik will ask if we are winning, then why are scores of rockets flying overhead every day ?
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 14:57 utc | 21
With much respect, it may be a rare phenomenon today, but the definition does apply to the creation of the United States itself, though certainly other aspects pertain.
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Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 14:07 utc | 6
Yes, it is not uncommon for "world's best equipped" etc. militaries to overestimate themselves, underestimate their enemies, and pay little attention to changes is culture, technology and military affairs. And then pay for the neglect. The military attract blowhards as well as patriots.
Smoothie (Martyanov) likes to go on about that, but it is not a new idea with him either. I think it comes up in most wars, which always have a lot of the unexpected about them.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 14:59 utc | 22
Anyone watching the ICH hearing live ?
Please update the bar if you can.
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 14:41 utc | 14
I'm tuned live. Overall,it is a more detailed than the previous - and making the case for Genocide much stronger ...
Sound has just been CUT for some reason !!!!!
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 15:00 utc | 23
Don,
Please pretty please give us play by play if at all possible
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 15:01 utc | 24
Sound is back ...
She wants the court to explicitly ORDER cessation of Israeli military actions in Gaza ... to make explicit what was previously implicit ....
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 15:03 utc | 25
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 16 2024 14:46 utc | 18
Why can't Mr. Peyman admit "America's first Jewish President" is actually Jewish with an original family name of "Drumpf"?
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 16 2024 15:04 utc | 26
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 16 2024 14:46 utc | 18As with Ukraine, an admission of defeat will only come when America allows it.
I don't disagree but: what will happen to Ukraine if their military crumples with mass surrenders (some already happening in pockets apparently) and no further ability to offer resistance? What if the people turn on their leaders? How much influence will the local and other (mainly Jewish) oligarchs involved (which we usually refer to as the US) retain? Might a convincing kinetic defeat not substantively change facts on the ground?
The same might be true in the Zionist entity but that is a tougher nut to crack. Somehow though, given most Zionists are functionally insane, perhaps saner heads in the region will find a way, now they finally have the military muscle, to knock some sense into the eschatological maniacs who have been running around almost unchallenged for far too long.
What says it all for me is how Palestinian fighters hand placed domestically crafted explosives on vulnerable spots of tanks with active protection systems while IDF soldiers riddled empty hallways and fields with bullets. Despite their bottomless supply of the world's best equipment, 10:1 advantage in combatant numbers, and curtailing of water, food and power, the IDF is still outflanked by Hamas 7 months later.
This is a mind blowing military victory.
The contrived questioning of Health Ministry casualty numbers is deflection. Media commentators pile on to impose impossible standards of evidence on a besieged and bombed population while parroting and not retracting debunked nonsense about mass rape, beheaded or baked or hung on laundry lines babies, Hamas fighters roasting themselves and Israelis in cars that weirdly have had to be shredded and buried for religious reasons, and 2-deaths-a-day IDF casualties.
There's no point in engaging. Efforts at discrediting the Palestinians aside: whether 7,000 or 10,000 dead children, it's still a genocide.
I have long term hope but short term dread.
Posted by: Sarah K | May 16 2024 15:09 utc | 28
Under any circumstances life will be worse for the Gazans when this round of the conflict ends.
1. Israel's inhumane blockade of Gaza will become even more severe and forget about Palestinians being allowed to fish in the Mediterranean or having any chance to benefit from their NG fields.
2. It is likely that Israel or a proxy will permanently control the Rafah border crossing into Egypt, the only border crossing Israel didn't already control.
3. I have no idea how the Palestinians will rebuild their hospitals, residential housing or infrastructure.
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I'm horrified that I finally saw the true face of Evangelical Christians in the U.S. I suspected as much but I hoped I was wrong but watching the gleam in Lyndsey Graham's eyes brag about nuking Japan and urging similar measures against Palestinians sickened me. His views were uniformly echoed by others.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | May 16 2024 15:10 utc | 29
"Gaza has become a moral stain on our collective humanity"
"Enough is enough."
"Order Israel to withdraw from Gaza"
She has concluded.
Summary now from the Ambassador
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 15:13 utc | 30
he fails to mention baal molech the capture of souls the sacrifice on altar the synagogue of satan oded yinon new khazharia a new home land for globo homo baphomet has a dick and tits google image it
he fails to mention a number let me guess 150 thousand plus he fails to mention lock step covid and finger on the knuckle handshakes all these masons do the hand signs the angled fallen flags sin bull in back ground.
the use of deep fake A i.. real slaughter from fake wars
exile here forever showing so called idf kill like this is a real war rather than a satanick cull.
lockstep is because all are partners did he mention haifa industry on fire haifa is sleepy town since october why
the hezbollah rely like biden and david cameron real name east india company man named levitts on central banksta those shitters in swiss,city of london and wall street and the rise of hitler and the bolshevik revolutions
old wind bag in a basement is telling it madeline albright style
did he mention gaza dustification did he mention depleted uranium the slow kill via tainted water
Posted by: todd | May 16 2024 15:14 utc | 31
Israeli Human Rights Lawyer Attacked While Documenting Settler Raid on Gaza Aid Convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaJa3dUfpYY
Aid agencies are running out of food in southern Gaza amid Israel’s ongoing offensive in Rafah and the shutdown of the two main border crossings in the south. Some 1.1 million Palestinians are on the brink of starvation, according to the United Nations, while a “full-blown famine” is taking place in the north.
Meanwhile, some Israelis have been blocking aid from reaching the Gaza border, including a violent attack on trucks carrying humanitarian relief through the occupied West Bank earlier this week, when settlers threw food packages on the ground and set fire to the vehicles at the Tarqumiyah checkpoint near Hebron.
“They did whatever they want,” says Israeli lawyer and peace activist Sapir Sluzker Amran, who documented the attack on the aid convoy. She says Israeli soldiers appeared to be working with the settlers, refusing to intervene. “They were just standing aside like there is nothing that they can do, like it’s normal, what’s happening.”
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Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt do no murder
This is horrific, how can anyone sink so low? No heart, no soul, what a downright atrocity.
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 16 2024 15:18 utc | 32
"leaders openly calling for a second Nakba"
# order Israel to cease military operation
# ensure unimpeded access to humanitarian aid
# fact finding missions
# preserve evidence
# submit open report to Court on all measures within One Week - and full within One Month
Concluded.
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 15:18 utc | 33
@Exile | May 16 2024 14:41 utc | 14
the 4 main summary requests at my #33
Best I can do - expect the Youtube snippets later on today
Colloquial summary to Israel: "Get the fuck out of Dodge!"
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 15:24 utc | 34
Posted by: scorpion | May 16 2024 15:05 utc | 27
The Ukrainians are much tougher than the Israelis. It would be a miracle if the conscript army of investment bankers and attorney wannabes survive a 10th of the losses as Ukrainians without a coup. Erdogan is now openly talking about military conflict with Israel and I heard that a former Israeli IDF general stated that Egypt military is preparing for conflict with Israel, which would be an overwhelming disaster ending the country. The vultures are beginning to circle.
My guess is at the current trajectory of Israel's public image, by the time Trump gets into office, Israel will be such an international pariah state Trump the showman, always pandering to public opinion, will probably only engage in theatrics to appease the Christian Zionist crazies.
Posted by: Turk 152 | May 16 2024 15:25 utc | 35
There was a ceasefire in-place on 6 Oct. Paleo barbarians broke the ceasefire 07 Oct and are currently reaping the benefits…according to b.
Posted by: Hamasisevil | May 16 2024 14:42 utc | 16
Typical of Genocide supporters, "History began when I say it did."
https://gilad.online/writings/judea-declares-war-on-obama-by-gilad-atzmon.html
Israel had just invaded the al Aqsa Mosque three days before Oct 6.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot
Netanyahu was just a few months away from annexing the lion's share of what remained of the West Bank.
Netanyahu shelved plans to officially annex large parts of the West Bank in 2020 in exchange for normalizing relations with the UAE.The countries involved in the Abraham Accords did not publicize it at the time, but Netanyahu’s commitment to not annex the West Bank was limited in duration. Days after the normalization agreement was announced in September 2020, three sources familiar with the negotiations told The Times of Israel that then-US president Donald Trump gave the UAE a commitment that Washington would not recognize any Israeli annexation move until 2024 at the earliest.
Posted by: librul | May 16 2024 15:27 utc | 36
Do NOT forget the FINANCIAL consequences for Israel:
- Since 2020/2021 interest rates in Israel have gone up from about 1% to over 4% now.
- Tourism to Israel has gone down by some 90%.
- The port of Eilat (Gulf of Aqaba) has seen traffic go down by a large %. Already companies has laid off a significant amount of workers.
- Turkey has shut down all trade with Israel.
- Evacuating people form the north of Israel and housing them elsewhere is costing the israeli government tonnes of money.
Posted by: WMG | May 16 2024 15:29 utc | 37
Thanks Don.
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…..while IDF soldiers riddled empty hallways and fields with bullets. and call repeated airstrikes on rubble
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Re: How will Gaza be rebuilt ?
the $200 billion of Israeli Central Bank reserves will be a start on fulfilling UNR 194 and the damage caused since. The gov‘t of Israel will also be liable for long term medical costs, survivor benefits, and pensions.
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 15:30 utc | 38
With much respect, it may be a rare phenomenon today, but the definition does apply to the creation of the United States itself, though certainly other aspects pertain.
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Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 14:07 utc | 6
Yes, it is not uncommon for "world's best equipped" etc. militaries to overestimate themselves, underestimate their enemies, and pay little attention to changes is culture, technology and military affairs. And then pay for the neglect. The military attract blowhards as well as patriots.
Smoothie (Martyanov) likes to go on about that, but it is not a new idea with him either. I think it comes up in most wars, which always have a lot of the unexpected about them.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 14:59 utc | 22
You seem to understand Juliana. What do you think she meant by this, Bemildred? You seem to infer she means the US has been proven to have a weaker military than previously thought, but if you look at her comment it's not really clear. Juliana, any help?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 16 2024 15:34 utc | 39
To put a finer point on my query, Juliana references "the creation" of the US. That's what confuses me.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 16 2024 15:36 utc | 40
Until we reach a point where zionist utterances are made a hate crime, the good peoples of the region have a lot more sufferances to endure.
Posted by: Max Heiliger | May 16 2024 15:39 utc | 41
That's an interesting remark, but tell me Juliana, what do you mean?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 16 2024 14:40 utc | 13
I mean that this country, the United States of America, of which I am a citizen, was born after facing an army of similar weight, historicly speaking, in the world. Which historical beginning its current leadership entities have forgotten or do perversely ignore, to their great shame. I mean this country's leadership powers are as guilty as are the Zionists of this enormous crime.
I mean: not in our name.
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 15:43 utc | 42
> I do not know enough of the internal dynamics of the Resistance to judge on this but that experts see a chance of such an outcome gives me some hope.
As an authority on the topic I can guarantee you that the resistance has never been so happy or confident. The high civilian casualty cost does not make a dent when paired with the phenomenal success of the resistance on the battlefield. The resistance considers the ends to justify the means when it comes to taking casualties, whether civilian or military. So long as the conflict is in strategic favor of the resistance the resistance is happy to bleed without limit. Outsiders dont understand just how solid and serious this is. Even if Israel kills every living thing in Gaza, Gaza will consider its resistance to be the first of many powerful blows that will destroy Israel, because everyone knows that Israel cannot survive such a thing because the governments who back Israel cannot survive such a thing. There is no one in the resistance who can imagine a scenario where the current crisis wont lead to a one state Palestine solution.
Posted by: poshpotdllr | May 16 2024 15:47 utc | 43
Occupied Palestine was already barbaric prior to 7 October and its reactions merely proved that to be true. The siege is ruining the Zionist economy. Crooke mentioned to Napolitano that Hezbollah could drive more Northern settlers South to the no longer visited tourist hotels and swell the "exile" numbers to over 2 million. Ansarallah expanded its rules of engagement--now any shipping firm that does business with the Zionists will have their ships targeted regardless of where they're going. I await their first attack in the Med. Netanyahu talks of attacking Hezbollah but nothing like that is really happening in the North. Former Iranian FM Ali Larijani reviews the situation in Al-Mayadeen, "From Al-Aqsa Flood to True Promise...How the Resistance took down 'Israel's' paper alliances", and provides a small item that I hadn't seen mentioned before:
After Operation al-Aqsa Flood, the Zionist entity's mock stability became frail.This was the reason why its leadership did not convene a meeting in the early hours of the operation. Instead, the US Army's Central Command in Jordan stepped in and took charge; that was the degree to which Israeli morale had collapsed. [My Emphasis]
It's most certainly true that the Zionists have already suffered a defeat when the pre and post 7 October positions are compared despite their ability to attain some success for their Genocidal Project. The ongoing trajectories for both sides will continue as they have for the last several months, and the siege will continue to bite deeper while the international political scene will further force the Zionists and the Americans to alter policies as the latest polls show Biden losing seven key states because of his support for the Genocide.
As I noted last week, the conflict is attritional with the Arc of Resistance having operational depth over the Zionists, a factor they never had to consider before. Nor had they ever had to consider global opinion before. Anti-Semitism was the only real political card they had to play and it's now buried. IMO, the Zionists are aware of how the escalatory ladder is being used against them which is why not much escalation has occurred as they can't afford to lose Haifa or any of the other ports that would be the next steps on the ladder.
You seem to understand Juliana. What do you think she meant by this, Bemildred? You seem to infer she means the US has been proven to have a weaker military than previously thought, but if you look at her comment it's not really clear. Juliana, any help?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 16 2024 15:34 utc | 39
She is, I believe, referring to the Colonial rebels defeat of the British Army of that period (1776), which army did have an inflated idea of its own superiority over the rebels. The rebels adopted guerilla tactics, learned from the indigenous natives, for most of that war, and only at the end carried out a direct defeat of a British army (Yorktown). It was more complicated than that: mercenaries, other signal but smaller colonial victories, European powers taking sides etc, but that can serve as a summary.
We seem to have forgotten about all that these days. Rhymes a lot with things happening today.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 15:49 utc | 45
Until we reach a point where zionist utterances are made a hate crime...
@Posted by: Max Heiliger | May 16 2024 15:39 utc | 41
I am ready for that! Can't wait!
When one hears The Slur (the accusation of "antisemitism") used these days
one can be nearly 100% certain that one is hearing from a Genocide supporter.
In the future when one hears The Slur being used the first thing that should be asked is, "we're you a supporter of Genocide?".
Posted by: librul | May 16 2024 15:54 utc | 46
The Ukrainians are much tougher than the Israelis.
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Posted by: Turk 152 | May 16 2024 15:25 utc | 35
Yes, I quite agree, first thing popped into my head, Izzies are no match for the Ukrainians (or the Russians), just much more equipment, bombs etc. being wasted on civilians.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 15:55 utc | 47
My neice is in college at UC Irvine California. Mass numbers of young protesters on campus. Large numbers of police (paramilitary) there to qwell descent. It is great to see young people show their support (out of humanity) for the Palestinian people in their darkest hour. Of course, the current corrupt and treasonous US government care nothing for abiding by The First Amendment, which, along with the other amendments in the Bill of Rights enshrined as part of The US Constitution, each and every one in government swear to uphold.
Yes, I believe Hassan Nasrallah is correct. This Al-Aqsa Flood operation can be viewed as a success to draw attention and make known the horrible oppression and genocide of Palestinians around the world. It comes at such a terrible cost. How can Israel replace the 10s of thousands that have been so ruthlessly murdered? Israel should be forced to pay a massive cost to rebuild Gaza and to compensate the Palestinian people. Further, they should be forced to agree that Palestine should have a fair portion of lands back.
Posted by: Áobh Ó'Sheachnasaigh | May 16 2024 15:56 utc | 48
thanks b...
i am very uncomfortable about where this is at, and i am not directly involved.. i don't see any light at the end of the tunnel here either.. it's not only that this madness needs to stop, but the underlying reasons for it are much more difficult to loosen and untangle... until the later happens - this will continue.. the underlying reasons need to be removed.. there seems very little or no acknowledgement of these..
@ Don Firineach
thanks for your efforts with the updates...
Posted by: james | May 16 2024 16:04 utc | 49
Juliana makes an interesting point, though not perhaps the one that she intended to make.
The US won its war for independence-and the preservation of slavery and the revocation of the 1763 Royal Proclamation- with the assistance and active military support of France, the most powerful nation in Europe at the time.
Palestine, by contrast, is almost completely alone, betrayed by almost all its neighbours and most of the muslim states. And yet, such has been the courage and stamina of the Palestinian militias in Gaza, they have begun to transform the world around them.
In the Middle East they have mobilised millions of supporters, it is just a matter of time before that support in the streets will lead to the transformation of states, still dominated by the imperialists. But what has become clear to the Sissis and Erdogans is that the question is not going away and that pretending not to see any evil will not be enough: they are going to have to act soon or risk being swept out of office.
And something similar can be said of the rest of the world: the movement in support of Palestine and against genocide is growing strongly in Europe and the West. And it is doing so as conditions in the capitalist Empire are deteriorating- falling living standards, the erosion of security, social, medical and economic, fuel insecurity, homelessness and deteriorating living conditions, declining educational standards, rapidly rising inequality and ruling class incompetence are working together to provide fertile ground for mass movements.
And the ghastly spectacle of Palestine- a detailed study of the soul of this society, besides which the extravagances of Nero are merely amateurish sketches in debauchery- is a catalyst.
Nasrallah is right. But he doesn't go far enough: the martyrdom of Gaza is going to change the world.
And as the world is desperately calling out for change for the first time in centuries the agency in the form of a burgeoning world order shaking itself clean of the dirt of imperialism, headed by the people of China and allied with the indomitable force of Russia, is quickly coming into shape.
We have long known-it is a favourite subject of poets- that the tiniest thing can lead to epoch shaking events, the want of a nail in a horse's shoe, a butterfly beating its wings in the prairie.
The uprising in Gaza and the predictably stupid and vicious responses to it will be seen in the future as the moment that the decline of the empire, long anticipated, became inevitable.
Let us not forget, as we celebrate Gazans, that other recent refusal of a people to bow down before the diktats of empire- that of the people of eastern Ukraine, who rose up against their oppressors and fought for eight years to preserve their independence.
Posted by: bevin | May 16 2024 16:06 utc | 50
It is not true that Israel has not achieved a single war aim. Genocide was its main war aim, and it is doing quite well with regards to that.
It's also turning the world against it for that very reason. So, I guess, be careful what you wish for.
Posted by: JAB | May 16 2024 16:13 utc | 51
"He [Gallant] proposed a multinational task force to help stabilize Gaza including U.S., European and Arab partners, with Egypt playing a special role as a 'major actor.'"
This is a major comedown for Israel and a sign of how they have lost. Previously, they were never willing to give up their direct control over the Gaza Strip, with a complete land, sea, and air blockade, including dictating to Egypt its policy on the Rafah border crossing, as well as including Egypt in the blockade. Now Gallant is saying bring in multinational forces to police ("stabilize") Gaza. Of course, it is his dream scenario to get others to do Israel's work for it and prevent future attacks from Gaza against Israel. This will never come about, as not one other country will dare put its troops into the Gaza hurricane. But on the other hand, if it did happen, the presence of such forces would completely eliminate the possibility of any direct Israeli retaliation against Gaza in the future, thus finally sundering Gaza from Israeli occupation, a loss of control over it that Israel has always fought to prevent. So it is a concession and an admission of loss.
Posted by: Cabe | May 16 2024 16:14 utc | 52
You seem to understand Juliana. What do you think she meant by this, Bemildred? You seem to infer she means the US has been proven to have a weaker military than previously thought, but if you look at her comment it's not really clear. Juliana, any help?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 16 2024 15:34 utc | 39
I do agree, to be clear, that the US military of today is a paper tiger, perhaps not as bad as the Izzies seem to be, or perhaps so. The issue has not been tried. Performance in Iraq and Afghanistan is not encouraging, they sure look like an occupying force, not an army used to taking attrition and fighting back. The last time we (the USA) fought a real war of attrition was Korea, I had uncles that fought in Korea, they didn't want to talk about it.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 16 2024 16:20 utc | 53
It's easy to forget that the Jews came to Palestine in the late 1940s as Superior Beings: violent racist beings. The Nakba was their Grand Entrance. They were obsessed with micro-managing the lives of Palestinians to maximise misery for Palestinians.
Jews MUST NOT be allowed to specify, or influence, any aspect of Palestinian Governance or Palestinian Security. That's how, and why, things went so wrong from the beginning.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 16 2024 16:22 utc | 54
The Israelioperational goals are
1 keep bibi in powyand our of jail
2 destroy the israeli left wing. Remember that prace is an antisemetic conspiracy
3 increase worldwide antisemitism and aliyah to israel
Posted by: Polli | May 16 2024 16:23 utc | 55
One thing I've noted is that the very word "Palestinian" had barely been uttered from the lips of anyone of any stature in the US in what? 20 years? Since the end of the second intifada. I remember Gingrich claiming the Palestinians not existing and being an invented people at a Presidential primary debate in 2012 (A bit rich when we consider the groups the Israelis claim constitute the eternal "Jewish people". And the Palestinians have never claimed to be one people but peoples) but can't recall any American president saying the word "Palestinian" much at all since 2005 before this.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=palestinian&hl=en
Posted by: Altai | May 16 2024 16:27 utc | 56
The coup de grâce
is when Israelis who have fled abroad come to the realization that "worst thing to happen to Jews since the Holocaust"
was a treacherous betrayal by the Israeli establishment. They LIHOP.
Imagine when they come to full realization. They will never return.
And there will be a rush to the door for Israelis still living there.
Posted by: librul | May 16 2024 16:29 utc | 57
With much respect, it may be a rare phenomenon today, but the definition does apply to the creation of the United States itself, though certainly other aspects pertain.
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 14:07 utc | 6
although this expression of Juliania has already attracted comment, it has to be said that in this case, it is just American exceptionalism, the story of David and Goliath all over again. In fact, not that many British forces were committed to the American colonies. The army was a hodge-podge of composite battalions from what could be raised in a hurry, together with German mercenaries. However I wouldn't want to contest the perfect knowledge of the Revolutionary War to be found among some MoAers.
Posted by: laguerre | May 16 2024 16:37 utc | 58
Watch in full: South Africa asks ICJ to order Israel to halt Rafah offensive
Middle East Eye 2 hours 30 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwGt98yVQw0
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 16:40 utc | 59
cmt
re: "... This rare phenomenon, where one of the world's best-equipped militaries has its weaknesses laid bare for its enemies to exploit ..."
This makes it more likely for Israel to control all of historical Palestine. Israel's position on borders was determined by UNSC 242 on November 22, 1967. Palestine was not mentioned in 242.
Israel supported the resolution because it called on the Arab states to accept Israel's right “to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.” Palestine was not mentioned. So Israel's recognized boundaries are the 'Mandatory Palestine' borders from the past. West Bank occupation and attacks on Gaza are good examples of Israel's position.
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 16 2024 16:41 utc | 60
@ Sarah K | May 16 2024 15:09 utc | 28
@ poshpotdllr | May 16 2024 15:47 utc | 43
@bevin | May 16 2024 16:06 utc | 50
All of you, along with b, make the same point about what a stunning reversal of fortune al-Aqsa Flood has caused. Zionists and their supporters may claim "success" for having inflicted far more casualties, but what about the actual situation? Who ever, ever would have thought that the hapless, blockaded, besieged and virtually imprisoned Palestinians of the tiny Gaza territory, scarcely bigger than the land area of the city of Philadelphia, smaller than Andorra (!), would still hold out against the Israeli military juggernaut more than seven months later?! Also, before, the Palestinians, under the everpresent threat of expulsion and ethnic cleansing, had never stood up to the Israelis before, so Israel's military superiority and its near monopoly on the use of force was the one thing it could count on, which led it to too much reliance on that alone. Now, that monopoly is broken, and it doesn't look like they can put it back.
As for Israel attacking Hizbullah and Lebanon, that seems most unlikely. Israel's first real utter failure to impose its will was the 2006 war with Hizbullah, when Israel was neither able to stop the rocket attacks, nor to exhaust Hizbullah's supply of rockets, nor to invade Lebanon even slightly with ground forces, a complete failure. Today, Hizbullah is both way better armed and way more experienced at fighting than it was then, so if Israel tries to attack it, it will lose worse than in 2006. Gaza is also like this; Israel has been unable yet to completely stop the Palestinians from fighting back nor to occupy much of the Gaza Strip, despite its tinyness. The map at https://southfront.press/military-situation-in-palestine-on-may-15-2024-map-update/ illustrates the smallness of the areas the Israelis actually control inside of the Gaza Strip after more than seven months.
Posted by: Cabe | May 16 2024 16:41 utc | 61
Posted by: bevin | May 16 2024 16:06 utc | 50
No, I did NOT make your point, bevin. Please look at the narrowly defined point I was making.
Make your own point.
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 16:43 utc | 62
October 7th was a long time coming.
There has not been enough discussion about those that got the world, the Palestinians and the Israelis themselves
to this place in time.
Organizations such as AIPAC and the ADL and all their allies
supported Zionism's WORST NATURE.
Instead of a sane curbing of the Settler Project,
it, it's militancy, racism and thievery were supported
to the hilt.
The cultivated product -- it's worst nature -- of Zionism is now on display for all the world to see.
It's worst nature was fed not curbed and those responsible all these
decades should be held responsible.
Posted by: librul | May 16 2024 16:45 utc | 63
Don Bacon - you should close read 242 again. Israel is mentioned only once in 242:
(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."
One reads the 2nd section as demanding Israel cease occupation and return to the 181 boundries as well as honor its obligations under UN194. Note - your twisting of 242 to promote ethnic cleansing and mass murder is rather sad.
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 16:52 utc | 64
The Israelioperational goals are
1 keep bibi in powyand our of jail
2 destroy the israeli left wing. Remember that prace is an antisemetic conspiracy
3 increase worldwide antisemitism and aliyah to israel
Posted by: Polli | May 16 2024 16:23 utc | 55
_____
ad 2 supra: How does one destroy something that never existed? Statistically meaningless minorities excepted of course.
Posted by: malenkov | May 16 2024 16:53 utc | 65
The Hamas incursion on October 7th can be tangentially equated with a "Hail Mary" situation. Do or die miserably and slowly as ongoing stomped-upon serfs and slaves. What the Resistance forces were facing was the normalization of relations between the subject Gulf States, primarily the Saudis...with the Zionist Entity in Occupied Palestine.
Economically, it would have become a done deal. The Zionist State was to be the hinge of trade amongst India, the Gulf States and Europe. Whether economically,culturally, politically or militarily...the indigenous Palestinian people were to be betrayed by the Gulf dictatorship elite...and ultimately totally erased from their millenials extant homeland.
So the Resistance had no choice, but to commit an act of military sabotage in order to give a future to those who would survive the inevitable IOF genocidal assaults on the people of Gaza. Though hundreds of thousands of Palestinians may be slaughtered and starved to death...the Palestinian people will ultimately prevail.
BILLIONS of people right across the planet now have come to understanding that the Zionist Entity, with two thirds of their population in full accord for the genocide against the rightful occupants of their native land...is an existential evil which must be removed from their imperialist colony in Palestine.
The Fat Lady is about to enter the stage. The majority of the planet's people have come to realize that the elites are all in cahoots and that the parasitical predators need to be fully overcome. What we are witnessing is a human earthquake of a dimension which has never before been achieved in the history of Planet Earth.
Ultimately, truth, honor, honesty, justice and love must and will prevail.
Posted by: aristodemos | May 16 2024 16:54 utc | 66
esus says during the Tribulation it will be worse since the beginning of the world. This is the final battle. St. Paul said to be filled and filled again with the Holy Ghost.
It is good to read the Olivet DIscourse again and again and heed esp to always watch and pray. Matthew 24, Luke 17, 21, Mark 13
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-Chapter-13/
19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 16 2024 16:56 utc | 67
/cheep
Even from the logistical point of demography, Zionism in Israel has failed. This wholesale slaughter of civilians has made a pariah of itself, leading to an exodus of Israeli citizens overseas about a magnitude greater (nearly 300,000+ Israelis left) than the loss of life in the Gaza Strip alone (likely greater than 35,000+ Palesyinian victims). Cruelty has made conditions unbearable where a good portion of those leaving will not return until Zionism in Israel is extinguished and a safe United Palestine, welcoming for all, takes its place.
The failure of their clenched teeth and clenched fist is compounding. But can their anger and fear, which is causing greater losses, ever be truly released? That is an inner discussion they must have with themselves.
And in that, Nasrallah is right once again: to hold out hope for an Israeli change of nature for the good (extinguishing Zionism in their hearts) is the brightest dream! :) Say it out loud so that repentance is known to be offered and reconciliation can take root in their soul. It is a gentle call back to being humane. :)
/cheep cheep
Posted by: titmouse | May 16 2024 16:59 utc | 68
It is not just Israel that has become a pariah state. Britain , Germany, Ukraine, the US arexall now pariah states. They didn't have to arm, spy for and give diplomatic cover for open genocide . They did it obediently to their bankster paymasters and are still doing it and doubling down on it.
Hundreds of years of crafted masquerades at the fete champetre of anglosaxon diplomacy is sluiced down the drain like blood in an abattoir.
The West has culled far more of themselves than their unruly proxies have called Palestinians.
There is a fat burger uf undigested shame blocking the drains in London Washington and Berlin. A great stink . A foul stench of debauched hypocrisy . Like the frogs of Pharaoh and the curse of Midas.
Get me outta here. Working in a tannery would be fresher than modern Britain.
Posted by: Giyane | May 16 2024 17:01 utc | 69
"Exhausting Israel".
Precisely, that were my thoughts as well. Waging a full scale war would exhaust Hamas, Hezbollah & Iran. This war will make sure that Israel will lose/is losing more and more friends. Hamas & Hezbollah can win this war by simply not losing.
Posted by: WMG | May 16 2024 17:02 utc | 70
Posted by: mastameta | May 16 2024 14:22 utc [9]
Hollywood will still pump out new iterations of that narrative but it is a story now demystified, not just ineffectual but as nauseating as the most crass hasbara.
"It's not for nothing that six million were killed...I'm proud that six million of you were burned!" Zarka reportedly shouted. ... https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1680636300964298752
😱 Panzers' out of the bag.
IBM 'dealt directly with Holocaust organisers' The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/29/humanities.highereducation
The Accountant of Auschwitz | documentary Channel https://www.cbc.ca/documentarychannel/docs/the-accountant-of-auschwitz
Posted by: Laurence | May 16 2024 17:12 utc | 71
Posted by: poshpotdllr | May 16 2024 15:47 utc | 43
... Even if Israel kills every living thing in Gaza, Gaza will consider its resistance to be the first of many powerful blows that will destroy Israel, because everyone knows that Israel cannot survive such a thing because the governments who back Israel cannot survive such a thing. There is no one in the resistance who can imagine a scenario where the current crisis wont lead to a one state Palestine solution.A one state solution but without the native population.
That is what you are literally describing. And at the same time, you are excited at the idea that this would spell Israel's demise. Have you thought this through?
Posted by: robin | May 16 2024 17:17 utc | 72
I apologize for having apparently not been understood in my initial post. I repeat it again here for clarification:
"... This rare phenomenon, where one of the world's best-equipped militaries has its weaknesses laid bare for its enemies to exploit ..."[Amal Saad, British-Lebanese scholar]
With much respect, it may be a rare phenomenon today, but the definition does apply to the creation of the United States itself, though certainly other aspects pertain.
The word 'creation' probably was unfortunate. My reference was to the beginning of said conflict, which I date to the 'rebel' uprising at Concord and extending to Valley Forge, part of the history which I learned in High School. Others have assumed I meant the creation of the Constitution with particular reference to all its ambiguities and the assistance that France gave in battle, etc. etc.
I did not. I should perhaps have said 'birth' rather than 'creation'. Bemildred's answer at May 16 2024 15:49 utc | 45 is the correct interpretation. And no, laguerre at May 16 2024 16:37 utc | 58, 'exceptionalism' was not the point I was making. Far from it.
I am a naturalized citizen. I studied US History in high school; I lived on the East Coast in a liberal arts college that was the planted locale of a Liberty tree; I studied again to become a citizen. That is my heritage, as it is for those born here. It was of that heritage I was speaking.
Again, apologies for any misunderstandings.
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 17:19 utc | 73
Think of Gaza as Chechnya 1994 or the Comanche Nation 1875.
Brutality invites brutality. Netanyahu has learned.
Posted by: Deplorable David | May 16 2024 17:22 utc | 74
Don Bacon 60
The military alliance known as USUKIS, that has been working together for 80 years to dominate the planet by a continuous stream of genocidal wars, has no say in the outcomes of its proxy aggression.
Proxies of every stripe and colour, from Al shebab to Al Qaida, from Northern Ireland to South America
from Islamic state to Azov, have no say in the humiliating outcomes of their thinly veneered war crimes.
Except to plead guilty in a court of Law set up by RoW institutions in absentia. They have nowhere to hide except in prisons like Epstein from which they can be smuggled and their faces changed. Their faces and their Crusading bloodlust is broadcast across their 24/7 pointless media without any disguise.
Once you lose the narrative, you are in the crosshairs of World rage.
Posted by: Giyane | May 16 2024 17:24 utc | 75
Posted by: Dingleberry | May 16 2024 13:52 utc | 2
Well, the al-Aqsa operation and its horrible sequels have established facts-on-the-ground and those facts nullify a ton of phony rhethoric and the word salads coming out of Washington, Tel-Aciv and the usual Zionist groups. Facts that become common knowledge worldwide, as it is the case with Gaza right now, have priority over narratives. It will take some time for the Zionist construction to lose its relevance in Western politics, of course, but the construction has suffered damage.
It is obvious that the Palestinians have to unite to make political gains out of the weakened Western position. In other words counter attack politically while the world is watching.
Posted by: Richard L | May 16 2024 17:25 utc | 76
Juliana refers to the historical fact that the US, and Canada of course, were both created by genocide and ethnic cleansing of North America's aboriginal population. The whole process was accomplished by treating the aboriginals as sub-human creatures not worthy of respect. The result was a long drawn-out holocaust of far greater proportions that what the Jews suffered in Europe.
But if these two countries were to copy what Israel is now doing, they would have to build prison walls around the Reservations, and start carpet-bombing them. Fortunately, they are not quite that insane.
Posted by: windship | May 16 2024 17:26 utc | 77
6 minutes of a concise summary:
🔴 Chris Hedges: Israel's Master Plan For Gaza Is Horrifying | Syriana Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mho30OqN2w
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 17:26 utc | 78
Re: military maps of Gaza
The maps showing IDF control of certain ground in Gaza are worthless. The IDF barely control the ground they stand on. The maps also do not show the underground fortress.
Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 17:31 utc | 79
"Al Aqsa Flood has been effectual"
This article is a damning critique of the Arab cause. Al Aqsa Flood has been a disaster.
Sacrificing people en masse for political gains?
Monstrous.
//On the other hand, some Arab regimes promoted ‘Israel’ as a normal entity that preserves democracy, according to the Hezbollah leader, who added that the steadfastness of women, children...//
WTF!
//...and resistance fighters in Gaza has changed this situation.//
To quote Madeline Albright: "Yes, it was worth it:"
//Nowadays, Palestinian and the Palestinian rights are being highlighted all over the world, Sayyed Nasrallah said, adding that over 140 states voted for granting Palestine a full UN membership.//
WTF PART 2!
Posted by: Arrnon | May 16 2024 17:33 utc | 80
Great piece b.
Don’t have the time to do a full comment but wanted to say, this is one of your best posts in recent past. Happy to see you are in full strength again.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 16 2024 17:36 utc | 81
the pier the platform on the sea militair anglo zion the sea bridge 200 million dollar private public financed formed structure is finished already my life
200 million dollars plus 10% for biden the big guy.
a bridge not of san louis ray but of real semite tears exile out
NGO military kill squads spies in
all the cared for can only be helped with many a covid booster shot astrophizerglaxo koshernostra chabad shot.
a land bridge on the sea for the winning the won
oded yinon is a big idea it grows
Posted by: todd | May 16 2024 17:39 utc | 82
Posted by: Turk 152 | May 16 2024 15:25 utc | 35 Posted by: scorpion | May 16 2024 15:05 utc | 27The Ukrainians are much tougher than the Israelis.
On their own ground, yes. But The Entity is backed by a weakened but still influential superpower. Also, I doubt that Hizbollah, Fatah and Iran are going to be marching boots on the ground to subjugate the intruder. Probably, it has to both lose the ability to bully other nations (done) and also to lose support (not yet done). That means that America has to crumple from within too which, as it happens, is probably going to be a world wide talking point this very summer as chaos and dysfunction in the ex-republic get increasing screen time.
Support for Israel in the US, though mainly by bribery, blackmail and controlled propaganda, ultimately depends on 'patriots' believing America can kick everybody else's ass. Once that is knocked out of them, the Zionists will be left hanging, albeit judging by the slavish mainstream support for the Zionists, that's a long time comin'.
Though still suspicious of multipolarity being global technocracy in disguise (Europe just launched digital currency following Russia), I keep hoping that China and Russia are determined to get out from under the hegemonic Credit Cartel matrix, possibly take it down altogether - a consummation devoutly to be wished. Taking them down at least several pegs is needed to change the equation in Palestine, whereas in Ukraine a real body blow incapacitating the Jewish-led regime’s ability to put boots on the ground might prove a game-changer if the population throws in the towel, aka ‘withholds consent’.
now
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Jewish militia is formally part of LAPD
UCLA attackers exposed: meet the violent Zionist agitators LA police haven’t arrested
WYATT REED·MAY 13, 2024
The Grayzone has obtained a dossier detailing the identities of the Zionist hooligans who assaulted UCLA anti-genocide student protesters. It was sent to LA police, but no arrests have been made. And the cops still can’t explain why they disappeared for hours during the mob attack.
On April 30, thirty people were injured when a mob of Zionist hooligans savagely assaulted the pro-Palestine UCLA encampment shortly before midnight. For over three hours, local and campus police stood down as the masked thugs assaulted students, journalists, and even officers of the law with fireworks volleys, pepper spray, and metal pipes. Though multiple attackers have been identified by community members on social media, to date there have been no arrests of pro-Israel goons.
“30,000 motherfuckers. 30,000 and counting.” —pro-Israel supporter
Just an awful thing to say. http://pic.twitter.com/7r0dpcGuzq
— Film The Police LA (@FilmThePoliceLA) May 1, 2024
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/05/13/ucla-attackers-exposed/
Phil. The actor previously served in Duvdevan, the infamous Israeli military unit upon which Netflix’s notoriously propagandistic series Fauda was based. Though he hasn’t been accused of participating in violence directly, shortly before the raid, Cohen wrote on Instagram: “I just wrapped [up] a [sic] independent quiet infiltration operation for @DrPhil tonight into the heart of the UCLA encampment. I’m now down here with LASDs elite SRT who’s staging now and preparing to make entry onto the pro terror antisemitic encampment.”
Also present in the run-up to the attack were members of Magen Am, a Los Angeles-based Jewish private security firm founded in 2017 by Yossi Eilfort, an MMA fighter-turned-Chabad rabbi. Magen Am, which claims to employ 12 former Israeli and US soldiers, bills itself as “the only Jewish, non-profit organization licensed to provide physical, armed security services on the West Coast of the United States.”
Speaking to the Los Angeles Times, Eilfort admitted coordinating with UCLA on an April 28 counter-protest aimed at antagonizing the pro-Palestine encampment, which featured speakers including an Israeli diplomat and a member of the California State Assembly. Footage published to social media appears to show a member of the group hulking over students and violently ripping them away from the encampment.
The group maintains a close working relationship with local law enforcement. At the conclusion of a training ceremony in 2020, LAPD commander Vic Davalos publicly declared: “I see Magen Am as the next evolution of an organized public/private first responder partnership in the community.”
"I see Magen Am as the next evolution of an organised public/private first responder partnership in the community."
LAPD commander Vic Davalos praises the Zionist militia group Magen Am, which is staffed by former Israeli military personnel. Did it have a role in clearing UCLA? http://pic.twitter.com/WPG9AJCKD6
— Lowkey (@Lowkey0nline) May 4, 2024
That “partnership” appears to be paying off, with Magen Am now openly boasting about its ability to influence LAPD operations. In an Instagram post published in early January, the group wrote that the LAPD’s new “online hate incident reporting policy” had been “spearheaded by Magen Am.”
In an accompanying video, the now-deceased head of Magen Am, Ivan Wolkind, described the change as “a project that we’ve been working on for about a year with LAPD,” and offered a hint as to its purpose:
“Why are we excited about this and why is it important to report these incidents? … First of all, every police department in the country makes resource allocation decisions based on the number of incidents reported. If these incidents are occurring in our community and we don’t report them, the LAPD has no way of knowing that they should allocate more staff time and more patrols in our areas.”
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Mehdizadeh displays a threat to student activists in the run-up to the attack: “ENJOY TONIGHT!”
Later that evening, a masked Mehdizadeh was recorded attempting to destroy barricades while a compatriot with a speaker blasted “Mani Mantera,” a Hebrew-language children’s song that Israeli soldiers have played while torturing and/or taunting captive Palestinians on camera. Despite getting caught red-handed by several security officers — and despite nearly getting into a fistfight with another guard in a separate incident — Mehdizadeh was allowed to remain in the area.
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 16 2024 17:43 utc | 84
/cheep
It is gracious but unnecessary to offer that apology, juliana. :) This is a watering hole, and each of those social lounges attracts its temptation to misunderstandings, reindeer games, and pedantry. It is as unavoidable as breathing. ;)
Remember, when we cheep in the morning it is part glorying of a new day, part gossip, part gloat at haters that we lived another day, and part warning to back off from my home. ;) We are as complicated as we are noisy.
e.g.
/cheep cheep cheep =) (good travels everyone!)
/cheep? cheep chirp chirp ... :| (Bob you there? Guess you didn't make it the night.)
/... >:( cheeeeeep (get off my damn tree limb! mine! all mine!)
A heart for you! <3
/cheep cheep
Posted by: titmouse | May 16 2024 17:44 utc | 85
So let me understand....
As Gaza Aid Pier Completed, Pentagon Vows To Protect US Troops Overseeing It
The completion comes more than two months after President Biden first unveiled the plan, and has been fraught with challenges including inclement weather as well as threats on Hamas against any potential foreign troop presence.
On this latter point, Navy Vice Adm. Brad Cooper of Central Command, said that "protection of U.S. forces participating is a top priority. And as such, in the last several weeks, the United States and Israel have developed an integrated security plan to protect all the personnel."
He added, "We are confident in the ability of this security arrangement to protect those involved." Israel's military will provide security on the shore while the USS Arleigh Burke and the USS Paul Ignatius patrol waters just off the coast.
US CENTCOM has further confirmed, "Trucks carrying humanitarian assistance are expected to begin moving ashore in the coming days." The military statement added, "The United Nations will receive the aid and coordinate its distribution into Gaza."
Why would you build a pier at Nutanywho's request when there are already seven roads into Gaza
The pier will get a few photo ops but its purpose to to dump rubble and dead Palestinians into the ocean .
Then it will be used to build the Bibi /Jared Condo /Casino .
We build a pier to land food, med supplies, other aid to help GAZA!
But we have to put US Troops on it to protect it
So the Troops are protected by moving 2 NAVY Ships into the area (relatively close to shore)
All the While we, the US MIC, keep supplying the J@#S almost all the military supplies to "keep the Peace" (Shoot at GAZA)
Evidently, I am not smart enough to be a Politician.
Posted by: todd | May 16 2024 17:58 utc | 86
Posted by: todd | May 16 2024 17:58 utc | 86
Have always assumed the pier is mainly an emergency escape ramp for collaborators etc. since the usual exits are closed. They can also bring a few people in, I guess, including some raiding parties at night.
We can pretend otherwise but Israel has won.
By brutal genocide and threat by use of nuclear weapons. Not nice and without mercy. Soon they are going to kill and expulse everybody from Gaza. Very dirty game but in 10 years nobody would remember Palestinians.
Even now, everybody is doing business with the companies from Israel amd
Egypt us building a concentration camp for the defeated.
Like it or not, but future belonga to the strong. Israel is not like Russia.
Posted by: vargas | May 16 2024 18:03 utc | 88
So let me understand....
As Gaza Aid Pier Completed, Pentagon Vows To Protect US Troops Overseeing It
Posted by: todd | May 16 2024 17:58 utc | 86
You and I know what's going on here.
Years ago I got in an argument about the marine barracks bombing in Beirut.
Some yanqui swore high and low the marines were there to keep the peace in Lebanon.
They were "invited".
I must admit I had some doubts then.
Now I see this floating "pier".
This "Humanitarian" pier.
That the yanks will "protect".
And now it's clear to me that there were no "peace keepers" in the U.S marine barracks in Beirut back then. It was just another "humanitarian pier".
Whoever sent them to perdition was doing god's work.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 16 2024 18:11 utc | 89
Posted by: juliania | May 16 2024 17:19 utc [73]
Was obvious to me.
Casualties. ~
"Juliana refers to the historical fact that ...‡"windship | May 16 2024 17:26 utc | 77
Posted by: Laurence | May 16 2024 18:12 utc | 90
Posted by: Turk 152 | May 16 2024 15:25 utc | 35 Posted by: scorpion | May 16 2024 15:05 utc | 27
The Ukrainians are much tougher than the Israelis.
On their own ground, yes. ...
Posted by: scorpion | May 16 2024 17:41 utc | 83
The Ukrainians ARE Izzraelis.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 16 2024 18:13 utc | 91
Sacrificing people en masse for political gains?
Monstrous.
Posted by: Arrnon | May 16 2024 17:33 utc | 80
You have it ass-backwards.
The ones doing the sacrificing are the Zionist Settler Colonizers.
Fighting back is is not "sacrifice" - it's a fundamental requirement of survival.
As Nasrallah implied:
The Palestinian people were being killed slowly anyway. 7 October was their one chance to live free or die trying.
If you think "Al Aqsa" flood was disastrous, you must think silently dying in darkness is a raging success.
Well, for you and your kind maybe, but not for any normal human beings.
The Zionist Jew is what is Monstrous.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 16 2024 18:19 utc | 92
Like it or not, but future belonga to the strong. Israel is not like Russia.
Posted by: vargas | May 16 2024 18:03 utc | 88
Remember these words when Izzrael perishes like the crusader states before it.
I will remind you that that "The Future Belongs to the Strong".
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 16 2024 18:23 utc | 93
From RT:
'The US military has completed work on a temporary pier to allow additional aid deliveries into Gaza, the Pentagon announced in a statement on Thursday. Meanwhile, the flow of aid into the besieged enclave is still being throttled by Israel’s refusal to open border checkpoints.'
'Aid Pier' my ass. That pier has nothing to do with aiding Palestinians. Don't these demons understand that we see right through their 'impossible-for-all-but-brainwashed-idiots-to-believe' propaganda?
Posted by: Áobh Ó'Sheachnasaigh | May 16 2024 18:25 utc | 94
"..Sacrificing people en masse for political gains?
"Monstrous..." Arrnon | May 16 2024 17:33 utc | 80
Maybe they got the idea from Ben Gurion.
It is well established that the Zionists in Israel, including the Revisionist Fascists like Netanyahu's father, happily sacrificed Hungary's Jews to death in Auschwitz in order to get a few 'notables'-their friends and patrons- into safety.
In fact from Day One in 1933 the Zionists worked in harmony with their fellow thinkers in the Nazi party to put an end to the 'horror' of Jewish assimilation into gentile culture and to blackmail Jews into coming to Palestine. Which is why the international boycott of German goods, as a response to Hitler's coming to power, was so fervently opposed by the Zionists who saw the Nazis as sharing their objectives, of intensifying anti-semitism and forcing Jews into seeking refuge in the middlde east.
The Zionists did not evolve into being Nazis- they have always been ruthless, racist fascists. All that is new is the recognition, internationally, of something that was old and established long before 1948.
But your point is wrong- Hamas bears none of the blame for Gaza's tragedy. Every Palestinian knows this. Hamas has done its best to protect Palestinians from a genocidal Israel. And it is succeeding
Posted by: bevin | May 16 2024 18:32 utc | 95
vargas | May 16 2024 18:03 utc | 88
Bibi AND Biden AND Sunak and many others. Bibi is the public actor, alone he is nothing, even with his 3 nukes under bed. Now basically nato and friends will move into Gaza, do anything they want there, Bibi moves to next target, they come after again, repeat. This must be a detailed plan, really doesn't look like something fast or a simple reaction. The old boys are expanding, oil is not infinite, must take it all, blow up gas pipes (good for other gases as well) then sell it as drops to eco peasants from other countries. Bill does the same with food, takes it out of the market, sells his synthetic replacement product
Posted by: rk | May 16 2024 18:32 utc | 96
60 seconds of Ms Murphy in fine form
Freed Israeli captive counters Israel's propaganda on captives treatment
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p6-zI4cOw2Q
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 16 2024 18:40 utc | 97
Economically, Israel is clearly hurting as I found out. Fuel/gas/petrol prices have risen more than 20%. From an average of 1.73 $/Liter before last October to 1.96 $/Liter in January and then further to 2.10 $/Liter currently, after Erdogan came up with Turkey's embargo.
Likewise, yields from government bonds are at an all-time high of close to 5%.
And as has been noted here many times, tourism is really screwed and down to lockdown (Covid) levels.
I don't see how this can get any better for Israel without a profound change in policies.
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | May 16 2024 18:41 utc | 98
We can pretend otherwise but Israel has won.
By brutal genocide and threat by use of nuclear weapons. Not nice and without mercy.
Posted by: vargas | May 16 2024 18:03 utc | 88
Oh gosh, look at the genius who will deign to acknowledge that the West might be losing its wars when bread riots start in London. Nonetheless, this is false even in the local sense. Israel not only failed to hunt down the major Hamas commanders and had to break their siege of Rafah, but they don't even trust their Fatah dogs to administer Gaza in place of Hamas.
Most people believe that being a regional and international pariah will be enough to vanquish Israel, but I doubt that. Best case scenario, Netanyahu is gunned down by his own soldiers when he tries to use nuclear weapons. It's more likely that they will "succeed" in a warning strike against Tehran- and then the entity will be wiped off the map by a total nuclear assault.
Consider how many ways destroying Israel in such a manner might advantage the world.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | May 16 2024 18:42 utc | 99
As odious as UN Resolutions are, sine qua non,
the timely frying of that load @ May 16 2024 16:41 utc | 60 posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 16:52 utc | 64 bears repeating:
Don Bacon - you should close read 242 again. Israel is mentioned only once in 242:(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."
One reads the 2nd section as demanding Israel cease occupation and return to the 181 boundries as well as honor its obligations under UN194. Note - your twisting of 242 to promote ethnic cleansing and mass murder is rather sad.Posted by: Exile | May 16 2024 16:52 utc | 64
Imagine. A virtual army of keyboard warriors -- Zionist Paradigms of the Sower -- Adding ignorance to iniquity day after day (even in an obscure whisky bar on the edge of the internet) on behalf of the murderous gangster mob occupying Palestine. ...
“Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.” —Isaiah 59:7
Posted by: Laurence | May 16 2024 18:51 utc | 100
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Israel lost, Bibi won
On Oct 6 he was going to jail unless a war happened.
Now the Idf is killing hostages to keep the government together
Posted by: Polli | May 16 2024 13:43 utc | 1