Actually, it matters not. (J Post/ numbers change).
Won’t change a thing.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 13 2024 19:45 utc | 103

Zionist settlers attack humanitarian aid trucks intended for starving Gaza population
Settlers attack and destroy humanitarian aid trucks throwing bags of wheat flour, as you can see in this video, intended for the civilian population of Gaza who are suffering from famine organized by Israel.
We are witnessing a real war crime, a fully accepted organized genocide because the most shocking thing about all of this is that they have the nerve to film themselves and broadcast the videos around the world! They are filming evidence of their war crimes without fear of any repercussions! This is unprecedented in human history, it is unique, this barbarity has no equivalent.
https://gab.com/gardianAngel/posts/112435559975868110/media/3

Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 13 2024 20:10 utc | 105

The west accepted this genocide in Gaza as a new normal. The acts of discontent are negligible.

Posted by: vargas | May 13 2024 20:28 utc | 107

@101
“UN seemingly halves estimate of Gazan women, children killed”
As far as I make out:
Tricky headline, and false hence “seemingly”.
The confirmed (smaller) number for women and children is not an estimate but confirmed, if anything is an undercount.
It should read “UN no longer sub-defines officially offered unconfirmed casualty reports”
Difference is
Old
“Hamas controlled” Government Media Office:
included reported casualties with gender and age classification.
New
“Hamas controlled” Gaza Ministry of Health:
confirmed casualties, with the @10 000 reported casualties included as unclassified with no gender or age attributed.
True number – no one knows, and there are those who will not be found at all.

Posted by: Ornot | May 13 2024 20:35 utc | 109

Exile | May 12 2024 19:05 utc | 20
Can’t vouch for accuracy (might be Mossad for all I know) – @2023gazawar on Twitter follows IDF units in Gaza.
https://twitter.com/2023gazawar

Posted by: PavewayIV | May 13 2024 21:55 utc | 111

The west accepted this genocide in Gaza as a new normal. The acts of discontent are negligible.
Posted by: vargas | May 13 2024 20:28 utc | 108
Actually, it’s the old normal, but I take your point.

Posted by: JAB | May 13 2024 22:18 utc | 113

ZH has a posting up with the title
Turkey Treating Over 1,000 Wounded Hamas Members In Hospitals: Erdogan
the quote

The NATO country with the second largest military in the alliance has just admitted to aiding and abetting a US-designated terror organization.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in surprisingly frank statements acknowledged that Turkey is currently treating over 1,000 Hamas members in various hospitals across the country. In the remarks he stressed that Turkey does not consider them terrorists, but as part of a “resistance movement” against Israel.
Also surprising is that such an admission, which is sure to anger other Western allies, came as Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis was on an official visit with Erdogan in the capital city of Ankara.
“Hamas is a resistance organization whose lands have been occupied since 1947, and it has protected its lands after the occupation,” Erdoğan said, clashing with Greece’s view of the militant organization currently fighting Israel.
“I do not see Hamas as a terrorist organization. On the contrary, I see Hamas as people struggling to protect their own land and their own people,” Erdogan added.
According to more from the exchange:

Speaking at a press conference after talks with Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis in Ankara, Erdogan also said he was saddened by the Greek view that deems Hamas a terrorist organization.
Greece and Turkey cannot agree on all issues related to the war in Gaza but they can agree that violence must end and a long-term ceasefire is needed, Mitsotakis said.
“Let’s agree to disagree,” Mitsotakis said, responding to Erdogan.

Turkey is a NATO member and has nukes on its soil as I recall.
Our civilization war deepens…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 13 2024 22:36 utc | 115

Posted by: PavewayIV | May 13 2024 21:55 utc | 112
Thanks for the link. It’s very much a IDF source, but still useful. Shows what the IDF thinks

Posted by: Exile | May 13 2024 22:48 utc | 117

So, trying to research the data on fatalities for some clarity.
Firstly the UN/Ocha data does NOT include those reported disappeared or buried under rubble.
This is the main page
https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-217
An earlier one eg. day-210 has the older figures.
The changes in Gaza MoH method are due to increased reliance on credible media and civil defence, and later also form based reporting, due to destruction of Gaza medical and information structure.
This eventually led to the recent adjustment by Ocha, which simply reflects the unconfirmed nature of much of the newer reporting by not assigning sub-specific data, such as age or gender, to the later datasets.
https://aoav.org.uk/2024/analysis-of-new-death-data-from-gazas-health-ministry-reveals-several-concerns/
Puts a lot of effort into explaining all of this, and the links of first and second studies on that page are worth reading to understand the sequence.
The short of it is that the true figure is not known now, 50 to 70% women and children and 30 000 plus fatalities, with extra thousands of missing, is probably a realistic starting point.

Posted by: Ornot | May 13 2024 23:04 utc | 119

So I don’t understand how this works…
If some group murders 15000 women and children and old men instead of 30000 they are magically some type of super moral group that is observing rules of war?
When the signs first went up at Auschwitz, they said 4 million. Now they say 1 million. That’s a better reduction rate at 75%
So does that mean the Auschwitz camp guards get a pass?

Posted by: Archetypex | May 13 2024 23:26 utc | 121

“The mother of the child martyr, Aya Abu Aoun, and the child martyr, Abdullah Abu Aoun, wrote on her Facebook account:
For 7 months, I do not dare to delete anything that concerns you..
Today, I am removing the game applications that you downloaded on my device..
I am leaving your educational groups..
unfollowing . For every page I see in front of me that displays children’s clothes and toys…
Your killing was not a nightmare as I thought… rather, it was the most horrific reality.”
https://t.me/gazanewsnow2021/141167

Posted by: Ornot | May 14 2024 0:59 utc | 123

Thank you for the kind words, titmouse. I am always cheered by your posts too. And Susan’s generousity and action is an inspiration.

Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 14 2024 1:46 utc | 125

Algerian was France for like 150 years.
Likid is Thelma and Louise

Posted by: Exile | May 14 2024 3:16 utc | 127

these people are not only crackpots, they are literally psychopaths who need to be arrested, totally drugged/sedated and then put into long-term mental institutions for the emotionally damaged & severely handicapped
there’s no getting around it, folks, the entire nation-state of israel is run by genocidal lunatic racists, torturers and mass murderers.
https://twitter.com/uncoovr/status/1790045595589021843
UnCover @uncoov
“It will be impossible to win the war if we do not destroy UNRWA, and this destruction must begin immediately” 🔥
━ Noga Arbell, a former Israeli foreign ministry official, called for the destruction of UNRWA during a discussion in the Israeli parliament, saying that it is the only way for Israel to win the war.
#eurovisiongr #blockout2024 #GazaHolocaust #RafahUnderAttack #FreePalestine

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2024 4:07 utc | 129

fyi
incredible war crimes and crimes against humanity.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-israel-unleashes-heaviest-bombing-months
War on Gaza: Israel unleashes heaviest bombing in months
Intense air strikes and ground attacks return to Rafah and northern Gaza
The Israeli military has launched a new wave of attacks across the Gaza Strip, similar in intensity to the peak of its seven-month war on the besieged Palestinian enclave.
Heavy air strikes were reported across the strip over the weekend and on Monday, with attacks since Friday killing at least 180 Palestinians and wounding dozens more, according to the Palestinian health ministry……
The ground advances have been met with fierce resistance by Hamas and other Palestinian groups, with at least five Israeli soldiers killed over the weekend, the Israeli military said…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2024 5:01 utc | 131

https://youtu.be/m4Rl1vTAQPc?si=HjUmsUIp3pvwYyL_
Malaysia’s speech at the UN yesterday. I know many think poorly of the UN. But it’s the only international organisation at the moment and speeches like this raise some hope one day the usa veto and manipulation can be overcome to get a just body operating. Anyway Malaysia calls out Israel it’s behaviour and war crimes and genocide in a very succinct way no other nation seems able to have the same courage.

Posted by: Hankster | May 14 2024 7:07 utc | 133

I am probably paranoid, but I feel those protecting the narrative would stoop to any excuse to get rid of this site.
Maybe simply use FTRTTS instead.
Turkey’s continued dealings with the occupiers is despicable.
Be safe all.
Posted by: Suresh | May 14 2024 0:04 utc | 123
You are not paranoid. There are trillions of words unsaid due to fears of charges in the future.
Kind of like the “metoo”. Suddenly sexual assault charges from out of the blue, over actions that allegedly happened 20 years ago.
I mean, Southfront was getting heat up by globohomo first. Way before even Alex Jones. et al. IIRC, ANNA was also deplatformed 8 or 9 years ago by Youtube.
Southfront was the first time in history they took away a .org website.
This, war, is what it was always about. Including the blood hungering of the once more pacifist left, into raging waraholics, via woke-adjacent war marketing. You love gay people? Well we do too, stunning and brave multinational corporations support you! Say, have you heard about the latest Putin evil? We must stand with Ukraine, ❤️ 💜. Love is Love. Ghaddaffi used viagra rape death terror rape squadrons of raping viagra fueled rape-terror. we came, we saw, he died. Mwa haa ha ha ha, ha, clap.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQ

Posted by: UWDude | May 14 2024 9:24 utc | 135

AJ+
@ajplus
Palestinian American scholar Edward Said dedicated his life and career to advocating for Palestinians and their rights under Israeli occupation.
He taught at Columbia University from 1963 until his death in 2003.
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1789311249194315804

Posted by: Menz | May 14 2024 10:31 utc | 137

The Grayzone
@TheGrayzoneNews
UCLA attackers exposed:
The Grayzone has obtained a dossier detailing the identities of many of the pro-Israel goons who attacked anti-genocide student protesters at UCLA
The dossier was sent to LA police & @MayorOfLA
, but zero arrests have been made
https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1790194808968872328

Posted by: Menz | May 14 2024 10:33 utc | 139

AJ+
@ajplus
The city of Philadelphia bombed a Black organization called MOVE 39 years ago today, killing 11 people, including 5 children.
AJ+ spoke with MOVE member Mike Africa Jr. in 2021 about seeking accountability and justice.
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1790049866409767299

Posted by: Menz | May 14 2024 10:34 utc | 141

Yesterday I visited the student encampment to support Palestine. I chose to go on Mothers’ Day to avoid the police. Sure enough, there was no one outside the encampment except a bearded man who lounged on a bench on the stone diases in front of the closed student union building, overlooking the grassy field where the encampment tents are spreads. When I first arrived I was immediately struck by the orderliness of the camp.
I walked directly in. – no barriers, except Free Palestine murals and flags – and immediately felt I was in a special place unlike any other, a space of unity and peace, as others have noted, a sort of otherworldliness or, more accurately, different-worldliness. I felt the tears rise that I must be regularly holding back, and I could have just walked around the place crying out my grief which is so often right beneath the surface.
Most of the students were inside a large tent – it was their dinnertime – but I encountered a couple people walking about; I felt such admiration and gratitude that I told everyone I met how glad I was to see them. I explained to one woman that I wanted to donate some cash for food; she went into the meal tent and brought out another business-like woman who received my cash donation and invited me to eat something. I declined and continued to amble on until I reached a ‘living room’ consisting of a grouping of comfortable chairs and couches grouped underneath an awning where three women were sitting, one softly strumming a guitar. I entered and sat in a back-friendly chair. I started to say again how glad I was to see those students and what a brave and right thing they were doing, and found myself crying again; it seemed to come out of nowhere perhaps from the endings of a number of friendships in my life since Oct.: and the ceaseless suffering of the Palestine people. They said they were glad to see me, and the woman sitting near me moved to the adjacent chair and gave me a hug. How unselfish and kind were these young people!
I learned that Paula (I’ll call her) came from another state and was estranged from her fundamentalist Christian family, an unresolved situation for this young student far from home. Prior to meeting Paula, I had not met any evangelical Christians in this struggle. (I am a JVP supporter and have also attended a Unitarian event in support of Palestine.) Unlike the Zionists would have us believe, these students from a group of inner-city colleges, are not ‘rich kids.’ My encounter with some of them brings home to me how vulnerable are these students who so selflessly and bravely have embraced a struggle which may be bigger, longer-lasting and more costly on a world scale than people may foresee. We had some conversation about Gaza and a bit on Ukraine about which Paula entertained some of the received notions about Russia; Americans mobilized over the barbarity of Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians do not necessarily see the connection with Ukraine, both Israel and Ukraine being proxies of the US global hegemon. Coming from her background, Paula expressed particular dislike for the ignorant, growth-stunted Mike Johnson. The women also discussed the most recent ‘sweeps’ of other student camps nationwide, especially UCLA, and said they were expecting to get ‘swept ‘. They said they were almost always surrounded by police lounging about on the nearby steps of the student union building. One somewhat reassuring thing they told me was that they had a really good lawyer. I can hope from that knowledge that they have some protection. Without any oversight from the slimeball in the WH, who only gets tough on people weaker than himself, the cops can do anything they want to you nowadays if they get hold of you and no one ‘has your back’. The students also talked about the bogus anti-Semitism law. Paula said she was hoping maybe the protesting Israeli relatives of the hostages would exert some influence on Netanyahu, but she and the others said they believed Netanyahu was focused on killing Palestine civilians more than defeating Hamas. Other students including the leader I had met earlier arrived for an SDS meeting. Twilight was coming on and I took my leave.
Monday I had a feeling of foreboding. There was no schedule posted on the net of the camp’s events. SDS usually posts everyday. Until 4:00 when a rally was posted. Later on I read that students had staged an action inside a building, a number had been arrested and the campus was put on lockdown for a couple of hours.
In this case, the police dept. has declined so far to remove the camp, saying no law has yet been broken. But the administration has refused to seriously consider the students’ demands or even to participate in a substantial meeting and has lied to the students. I am assuming the students were brushed off again today and tried to corner the administration. As Paula said, “they think we’re criminals.”

Posted by: Lavieja | May 14 2024 12:05 utc | 143

working?

Posted by: librul | May 14 2024 14:02 utc | 145

@143 Newbie
What stood out as I was searching up on this was that 3/4 of sites offered by search were “Israeli” and 9/10 were pro-“Israel”. It takes a while for a person to orientate and mull over any reality (here simply a few hours searching and browsing), the take-away today being that it was disturbing to find that virtually all media likely to be accessed normally by anyone is basically gleeful reporting that due to the destruction of their medical and information structure Palestinians are no longer able to provide accurate data on the number of people killed.
That is to say, the western press as a whole is celebrating that murder or genocide is able to occur, and continue to occur, by erasure of normal or pre-existing forms of accountability.

Posted by: Ornot | May 14 2024 14:44 utc | 147

“SDS” Take a hike.
Posted by: librul | May 14 2024 14:07 utc | 147
I’m confused. What does it refer to?

Posted by: David G Horsman | May 14 2024 15:14 utc | 149

Sharing an excerpt of Pepe Escobar’s 5 star insight from 11 days ago re the situation in Palestine.
Much of this brilliant article, seems like something that will surely find it’s way into many history books.

The Russia–Iran–China search for a new global security order
https://thecradle.co/articles/the-russia-iran-china-search-for-a-new-global-security-order

Pepe Escobar

May 3, 2024
—
While the collective west is in the grips of an existential legitimacy crisis, the RIC is devising its own security order to protect the rest of the world from the ‘genocidals.’
At the UN Security Council, China now openly questions not only the state terror attack on the Nord Streams but also the US–Israel combo’s blocking of Palestinian statehood. Moreover, Beijing, just like Moscow recently, hosts Palestine’s political factions together in a conference aiming to unify their positions…
Russia, meanwhile, provided a platform for the UNRWA – the UN relief agency for Palestinian refugees, which Israel has sought to defund – to explain to high representatives of BRICS-10 the cataclysmic humanitarian situation in Gaza, as described by UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini.
In short, serious political business is already being conducted outside of the corrupted UN system, as the United Nations disintegrates into a corporate shell with the US dictating all terms as the largest shareholder.
…
The interlocking Russia–Iran–China strategic partnerships were totally in sync. Apart from Dong meeting Shoigu, he also met Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Ashtiani, who lavishly praised Beijing’s condemnation of the Israeli terror air strike in Damascus.
What is happening now between Beijing and Tehran is a replay of what started last year between Moscow and Tehran, when a member of the Iranian delegation on a visit to Russia remarked that both parties had agreed on a mutual, high-level “anything you need” relationship.
In Astana, Dong’s support for Iran was unmistakable. Not only did he invite Ashtiani to a security conference in Beijing, mirroring the Iranian position, he also called for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and the delivery of humanitarian aid.
…
The current military-political situation and threats to our states oblige us … to common approaches to building a just world order based on equality for all participants in the international community.
…
On Gaza, the Russia–Iran–China position is in complete sync: Israel is committing genocide. For the EU – and NATOstan as a whole – this is not genocide: the bloc supports Israel no matter what.
After Iran, on 13 April, changed the game in West Asia for good, without even using their finest hypersonic missiles, the key question for the Global Majority is stark: in the end, who will restrain the genocidals, and how? Diplomatic sources hint this will be discussed face-to-face by Putin and Xi. …
Yet the key question remains: how will Russia–Iran–China (RIC), as BRICS leaders, SCO members, and simultaneously top three “existential threats” to the Hegemon, be able to start implementing a new global security architecture without staring down the genocidals.

https://thecradle.co/articles/the-russia-iran-china-search-for-a-new-global-security-order

—
—
Thanks to Larry Johnson for republishing the full article today in his free daily mailing informing readers of
Pepe Escobar’s New Book: EURASIA v. NATOstan,
https://sonar21.com/pepe-escobars-new-book/
—

“We must drag the machinations of the powerful into the daylight for all to see… we must be unapologetic about that most basic need of humanity – the desire to know.”
“Mass leaking is the most… effective political intervention.”
“The Truth is the only way that we can get anywhere… any decision-making… based upon lies or ignorance can’t lead to a good conclusion”
— Julian Assange (the Great)

Posted by: Toby C | May 14 2024 15:29 utc | 151

Posted by: Sarah K | May 14 2024 14:48 utc | 149
Posted by: David G Horsman | May 14 2024 15:14 utc | 150
It appears to be a student divestment action group. I think Librul’s brain might have melted from overload causing his mouth to run with bile.

Posted by: Greg | May 14 2024 15:35 utc | 153

SDS goes back to the early 60s and was much maligned during the Vietnam-war era by the mainstream media. Librul may remember that; I definitely do. Its use today to suggest that campus protesters are not legitimate students but “outside agitators” is not surprising.

Posted by: Gene Poole | May 14 2024 16:21 utc | 155

@Posted by: Gene Poole | May 14 2024 16:21 utc | 156
Our posts crossed in the mail.

Posted by: librul | May 14 2024 16:24 utc | 157

Posted by: Gene Poole | May 14 2024 16:21 utc | 156
I actually attended an SDS meeting in the 60’s. I was 15; my father proudly drove me to there, and picked me up when it was over. “Proudly” because he had fought in the resistance in Romania, and he felt that socialism was a good place for a teen to be.
The meeting was disappointing. A bunch of white, college bound teens, discussing how they were going to go get factory jobs and radicalize the workers. I was in doubt as to how their paternalistic attitude would be received.
A few years later, just as the workers did get radicalized and saw common cause with the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement, those disparate fingers about to close into a fist, started waggling independently again as identity politics ate the world. That was even sadder.

Posted by: JAB | May 14 2024 16:32 utc | 159

@Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 12 2024 20:07 utc | 28
Useful post but you left off the link:
https://gilad.online/writings/judea-declares-war-on-obama-by-gilad-atzmon.html

Posted by: librul | May 14 2024 16:43 utc | 161

147, 157 etc.
SDS — https://new-students-for-a-democratic-society.ghost.io/
Lavieja reference to “SDS” is apparently to a UCLA chapter of this group is posting, or not posting, schedules of events about the ongoing student encampment. Perhaps someone who is actually in LA can confirm this.

Posted by: nazcalito | May 14 2024 16:58 utc | 163

re: SDS
At my local encampment a student communist party is definitely involved, perhaps centrally. The appear to contribute knowledge around pamphleting, dealing with police etc. Calling people ‘comrades’ is not my jam but I can get on board with their aspirations of a free people’s pharmacy at the medic tent and food for all.
I can understand concern that a broad-based movement could be undermined by accusations of external communist agitators. Not sure that was lavieja’s intent.
In my view the ‘outside involvement is bad’ argument is faulty – so what? Students are protesting and community members are supporting them. Because we cannot stand seeing parents grieve dead babies killed by bombs our taxes pay for.
In fact, some campuses are asking community members to join. At my local encampment, material support is pouring in. Anything that goes on supplies request list is overfulfilled within 12 hours. Cash donations have multiple zeroes.
That is what’s scary. This is a genuine popular movement that has been ongoing via weekly marches for months. The ‘agitators sparked the encampments’ argument requires evidence. The PTB allege what they allege – but I think people are waking up to the fact that they can’t prove their case. Meanwhile we’ve all seen the horrors that prove the student’s side. Gaza pictures are worth a thousand state sponsored media words. And whether they like it or not (and they don’t), campuses have become networked nodes of resistance to state and corporate genocide enablement.

Posted by: Sarah K | May 14 2024 17:51 utc | 165

Southern Front Daily SitRep
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2109461
Comment – 2 videos : first is apparently in Rafah , it’s a compilation of RPG strikes on Merkavas. A veritable turkey shoot. 4 minutes of strike after strike. The Tanks are all unsupported by infantry (as usual) The second video is a very long range sniper taking out an IDF that appears to guarding a section of fence fence

Posted by: Exile | May 14 2024 18:31 utc | 167

United we stand devided we fall.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 14 2024 18:52 utc | 169

That is the one and only message that should be projected from protests.
Posted by: librul | May 14 2024 15:34 utc | 153
Talker talking about what doers should be doing.
And anything they do is better than spamming moa with oct 7 was a false flag copy-pasta.

Posted by: UWDude | May 14 2024 19:29 utc | 171

Paul from Norway 151
Not sure how Myessan manages to join the dots of Calvinism and Zionism.
Cromwell imported Dutch Jews whose political descendants are the modern British Tory Party like David Cameron, in order to finance the country and destroy the Royalty’s feudal system of Roman Catholic Ignorance .
Oliver Cromwell destroying Religious Ignorance should make him a hero for our French friend but au contraire Myessan accuses Cromwell of intentionally founding a Protestant Zionist movement that turned into the Monster of US evangelist Zionism which supports Netanyahu’s genocide.
If Oliver Cromwell called in the Dutch , Jewish Bankers solely to finance Britain and bankrupt its expired Royalty, what hope for our modern BRICS countries seeking multipolarity when Zionist Neocon Wolfovitz set up the Chinese banks?
Give us a break , mate. Cromwell didn’t intend the Neanderthals of Feudal Roman Catholicism to be replaced by the even older dinosaurs of Judaism.
Any more than Lenin wanted the Neanderthals of Russian Imperialism to be replaced by the even older dinosaurs of Nazi revisionist Zionism.
History is full of blow back. One step forward and the died in the wool Conservative reactionaries always take us twenty steps back.

Posted by: Giyane | May 14 2024 19:40 utc | 173

174
On the same theme , has anybody else noticed that when our late Queen and Angela Merkel invited South and West Asia to join us in Europe , and Biden has invited South America into the North, their true intentions were to eliminate leftie socialism and replace it with far right, Asian village conservatism?
Israel was a left wing country until twenty years ago, but has imported right-wing village- mentality nutjobs from Ukraine and the US and it is now openly Fascist.
You cannot blame Russia / USSR for being the first country to recognise Israel when , ever since then , the dark forces of Ukrainian revisionist Nazism Zionism have been imported into Israel to make the catastrophe that now exists.

Posted by: Giyane | May 14 2024 20:02 utc | 175

Posted by: Giyane | May 14 2024 20:02 utc | 176
No, not a left wing country, until 20 years ago.
Its socialist tendencies, the kibbutzim figleaf, dropped away looooong before that. In the late sixties I’d say.
For detail, see Hal Draper, “Zionism, Israel, and the Arabs,” a short but great book.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/draper/1990/zionism/Zionism,%20Israel%20and%20the%20Arabs.pdf

Posted by: JAB | May 14 2024 20:28 utc | 177

@Posted by: Lavieja | May 14 2024 19:58 utc | 175
With friends like SDS
who needs Hasbara?

Posted by: librul | May 14 2024 22:12 utc | 179

RE: Posted by: Toby C | May 14 2024 15:29 utc | 152
It’s too bad North Korea isn’t given any props by Pepe or others to their resistance contributions.
It was N. Korea that trained and showed Iran tunnel building & has funneled boatloads of weapons and equipment to Iran through the years.
It was N Korea that provided Russia with aggro labor and added immensely to Russias aggro sector throughout the years.
It is N. Korea that keeps US lapdog S. Korea & US off of China’s doorstep.
Yes, I realize it’s all mutual benefit, but they are a flank in the resistance that shouldn’t be overlooked or underestimated. Cuba & Venezuela also are strategic bulwarks.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 14 2024 22:35 utc | 181

JAB 178
Here we sit, thinking we have a left-wing in our Western countries when the reality is that we are only milliseconds away from Nazism.
Yes, you’re right. The corrosive reactionary politics has been here since my school days in the 70’s.
But reactionary politics is how the world is.
It’s Left’s illusion I recall
I never have known Left at call.

Posted by: Giyane | May 14 2024 22:42 utc | 183

Posted by: Giyane | May 14 2024 22:42 utc | 184
When I was growing up in a major American city (one of top three population wise) the average Democrat and a lot of what we call lefties were:
Anti war
Anti immigration
Pro labor
Now they are:
Pro war
Pro immigration
Anti labor
I think the labels just make it easy for them.
I don’t care what your “label” is, but do care about what you support.
I can agree/disagree when I know the position.
I might want to throw support behind you sometimes and be against you sometimes.
The left right dichotomy makes things easy to control.
We need to teach ourselves to ignore it and help others do the same.

Posted by: Archetypex | May 14 2024 23:58 utc | 185

“What stood out as I was searching up on this was that 3/4 of sites offered by search were “Israeli” and 9/10 were pro-“Israel”. It takes a while for a person to orientate and mull over any reality (here simply a few hours searching and browsing), the take-away today being that it was disturbing to find that virtually all media likely to be accessed normally by anyone is basically gleeful reporting that due to the destruction of their medical and information structure Palestinians are no longer able to provide accurate data on the number of people killed.
That is to say, the western press as a whole is celebrating that murder or genocide is able to occur, and continue to occur, by erasure of normal or pre-existing forms of accountability.”
Posted by: Ornot | May 14 2024 14:44 utc | 148
Thank you, Ornot. This is something that anybody can verify. It’s a plain, hard fact.
I am voting for Jill Stein. No ifs, buts, or maybes.

Posted by: juliania | May 15 2024 0:07 utc | 187

Posted by: sunof27 | May 13 2024 22:33 utc | 115
That is the first psalm, sunof27. I think I can recite it by heart, let’s see. And I’ve also set it to a melody for myself in the past.
Blessed is the man
Who walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly
Nor standeth on the path of sinners
Nor sitteth in the seat of the unrighteous
But his delight is in the way of the Lord,
And on his ways he shall meditate
Day and night.
And he shall be like a tree
Standing by the river of water
That bringeth forth its fruit in its season.
His leaf also shall not wither,
And whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so.
They are like the chaff that the wind bloweth away.
Therefore, the ungodly shall not stand at the Judgement
Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;
For the Lord knoweth the ways of the righteous
And the ways of the unrighteous shall perish.
Amen
I remembered it well; just had forgotten the 6th and 7th line. It is really very singable. Thank you.

Posted by: juliania | May 15 2024 1:44 utc | 189

Thank you sun and juliana, it doesn’t seem any human agency can stop this horror. They don’t neglect the spiritual, neither should we.
Deliver me, O LORD, from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man;
2 Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war.
3 they have sharpened their tongues like a serpent; adders’ poison is under their lips. Selah.
4 Keep me, O LORD, from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow my goings.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-140-1/
Pray that people will return to the Lord Jesus.
https://anastpaul.com/

Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 15 2024 2:17 utc | 191

fyi
from Caitlan in Australia
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2024/05/14/i-criticize-the-us-power-alliance-because-its-the-most-destructive-force-on-earth/
I Criticize The US Power Alliance Because It’s The Most Destructive Force On Earth
“…I don’t spend my time attacking the US war machine because I have any special love for Hamas, Iran, Russia, China, or any other power. I do it because the US empire is quantifiably the most destructive and tyrannical force on this planet, by an extremely massive margin.
No other power has spent the 21st century killing people by the millions and displacing them by the tens of millions. No other power is circling the planet with hundreds of military bases, starving people around the world with blockades and economic sanctions, staging proxy wars, color revolutions and coups all over the earth, and working to destabilize and destroy any nation anywhere on this planet who dares to defy its dictates.
Only the US empire is doing this. No other power comes anywhere remotely close.
That’s as murderous and tyrannical as it gets……”

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 15 2024 3:20 utc | 193

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/37365
This is a must see video that fully personifies how hopeless the IDF is. Fighters emerge from a tunnel a few metres away from idling tanks , not spotted by a few infantry and set explosives against a tank others fire RPG then jump down and run away in the tunnel. How can IDF have any chance when up against this tactics. The fighting is back up in northern Gaza long claimed as cleansed by IDF.

Posted by: Hankster | May 15 2024 6:42 utc | 195

Thierry Meysson takes us from Cromwell, Benjamin Disraeli, US Civil War to Rev. Blackstone, Hertzl, Cecil Rhodes and Jabontinsky to todays Zionist movement.
Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 14 2024 15:28 utc | 151
That Meyssan article is seriously misleading (as a simplified popular version of not so recent research) in suggesting that imperial Britain was committed to a Jewish state at an early stage in the 1WW. It wasn’t, and the Balfour Declaration says the reverse. There were multiple British policies, in obvious contradiction with one another.
What Meyssan’s article does point up is the importance of what we call today “Christian Zionism”, to be found in evangelical Protestantism as far back as Cromwell, it is obvious. None of the Zionists plans would have come to fruit, had it not been for a basic approval in the minds of the ruling authorities in UK and US. British authorities in the Middle East were all opposed to Zionism; the Balfour Declaration was imposed from London without consultation, by the Christian Zionist PM, Lloyd George. Christian Zionism continues to be the main ideological support in the US even today.

Posted by: laguerre | May 15 2024 7:02 utc | 197

Goooooood morning campers .
Just in case anyone is being influenced by agit proppers who make the right noises, look like they belong, look like they are coming to help with the protests ….I’ll just remind you of the many cases of undercover police / spooky types in the U.K. since the 60’s .. in every youth groups , from anti apartheid , animal rights to nuclear disarmament to every single green and current climate bullshitters and of course the current anti apartheid entity in the Levant
Some were dragged into courts or the daylight of publicity over recent years for not just being police state spies sent to infiltrate legitimate protestors but getting into sexual relations. Some even had children – then disappeared back to their ‘real life’, where some also had families…because fascists do what fascists are – follow orders to do bad.
Our fascist states and Zionists and Nazis of the collective waste are that ruthless – if you didn’t see this tweet it’s worth posting again. – keep your eyes open and don’t trust anyone you don’t know ..especially the kumbaya types.
‘Tiberius
@ecomarxi
Feb 11
Nazis: Said they were the master race
Zionists: Say they are the chosen race
Nazis: Stole land and property from Jews
Zionists: Steal land and property from Palestinians
Nazis: Starved Jews
Zionists: Starve Palestinians
Nazis: Dehumanised Jews as rats/insects
Zionists: Dehumanise Palestinians as rats/insects
Nazis: Ethnically cleansed land of Jews
Zionists: Ethnically cleansed land of Palestinians
Nazis: Constant propagandists
Zionists: Constant propagandists
Nazis: Asked Europe why nobody was taking the Jews they expelled
Zionists: Asking Arab nations why nobody will take Palestinians they wish to expel
Nazis: Said Jewish children are equally guilty
Zionists: Say Palestinian children are equally guilty
Nazis: Committed genocide against Jews
Zionists: Accused of committing genocide against Palestinians
Feb 11, 2024 · 4:28 PM UTC ‘

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 15 2024 7:56 utc | 199