Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
Back to Main

May 10, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-134

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

Posted by b on May 10, 2024 at 15:05 UTC | Permalink
Comments

A must read article. An openly fascist approach but also one at odds with reality. Is Israeli’s brutality in Gaza really intimidating Iran or Yemen ? Does the US have any weapons or military achievements that would intimidate Russia or China ?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/05/10/nqhi-m10.html

Posted by: Pete | May 10 2024 15:35 utc | 1

Many posters here have put forth the idea that the Oct 7 Hamas incursion was fully orchestrated, choreographed and engineered by the I Israelis with, of course, the full blessing and possible complicity of the US. If this is indeed the case, perhaps the first act in this drama may have been the US unseating of Imran Kahn who sympathized with the Palestinians and could have used his nations nuclear weapons leverage to force the Israelis to desist in their effort to slaughter and eradicate the Palestinians.

Posted by: jfrchitect | May 10 2024 15:35 utc | 2

To every immoral, brutal, inhumane, and genocidal action of the Zionists there will be a reckoning in time.
@Palestinians
In solidarity.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 10 2024 15:45 utc | 3

“the US unseating of Imran Kahn who sympathized with the Palestinians and could have used his nations nuclear weapons leverage to force the Israelis to desist in their effort to slaughter and eradicate the Palestinians.”
Posted by: jfrchitect | May 10 2024 15:35 utc | 2
Interesting take.
I thought that takedown was to prevent any coseying up to Russia.
Post Khan munitions were being supplied to Ukraine from Pakistan.

Posted by: jpc | May 10 2024 16:02 utc | 4

Blinken, one week ago:
“The reality in this moment is the only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas…taking the ceasefire should be a no-brainer.”
He has since been silent on Hamas’ acceptance and Israel’s rejection of the proposal, while State Department spokespersons emphasize a new weasel phrase “major operation” (I.e. incursion of Rafah with tanks is not a “major” event).
Later today, Blinken is expected to present to Congress an official State Department report absolving Israel of responsibility for violation of international law regarding indiscriminate use of military power and obstruction of humanitarian aid. It is one thing to promote interpretive narratives of events, but entirely something else to deny a material reality that everyone else observes and understands plainly.

Posted by: jayc | May 10 2024 16:03 utc | 5

jfrchitect@2…..come on, please, nuke what, and how? And the Apartheid Regime Occupying Palestine would be in fear….please look at Gaza, do the Genociders look scared?
They still retain the ability to mass troops and armour to attack women and children, no one is scaring them. No one.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 10 2024 16:04 utc | 6

unseating of Imran Kahn who sympathized with the Palestinians and could have used his nations nuclear weapons leverage
Posted by: jfrchitect | May 10 2024 15:35 utc | 2
KSA funded the Pakistani bomb, and they almost certainly have at least one nuclear device as a result. That doesn’t mean the Pakistanis necessarily care less about Israel than the Gulf Arabs, but there’s no reason to think Khan was willing to do what no other Muslim leader will.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | May 10 2024 16:08 utc | 7

please look at Gaza, do the Genociders look scared?
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 10 2024 16:04 utc | 6
Quite wrong. The Genociders are indeed scared. That’s why the campaign has taken the form it has. The ground troops are too scared to go into the tunnels. The only tactic that works is air bombardment.

Posted by: laguerre | May 10 2024 16:11 utc | 8

thanks for the archived article b… the ending is a bit disappointing, but that might be just my take…

Posted by: james | May 10 2024 16:11 utc | 9

According to RT it’s on like donkey Kong!
Bibi just rolled the tanks into Rafah, extending a giant middle finger to Blinken, Burns, Biden and all the other shitbirds.
And who else thinks Bibi congratulations Putin on V-day means triangulation is in play?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 10 2024 16:13 utc | 10

https://t.me/llordofwar/345705

🔴 Doctors Without Borders, an international organization that provides assistance to victims of military conflicts, reports that the IDF stormed their medical center in the West Bank
📝“On May 6, in the West Bank, Palestine, a stabilization point was stormed during a brutal Israeli raid on the Tulkarem and Nur Shams camps.
Volunteer paramedics trained by our teams have been harassed and attacked and no longer feel safe providing life-saving care there patients,” the message says.
It is also reported that ambulance access was blocked.

https://t.me/llordofwar/345692

The UN General Assembly recommended that the Security Council reconsider Palestine’s membership in the organization, a TASS correspondent reported.
The UN General Assembly has granted Palestine a number of procedural rights as a permanent member.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 10 2024 16:15 utc | 11

18:00 Al-Qassam Brigades sniper targets a Zionist officer south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood in Gaza City, inflicting a direct hit: statement

Posted by: Exile | May 10 2024 16:16 utc | 12

How to explain CNN and other US MSM now showing Israel’s crimes?
Does that mean that Zionists do not control everything on US?
Or some misunderstanding among yhem?

Posted by: vargas | May 10 2024 16:17 utc | 13

The very actions the Nazi used against all of their prisoners – nations, religions and groups – in camps, Israel is now doing against the desperate Palestinian people.

Posted by: Bill R | May 10 2024 16:22 utc | 14

UNGA backs membership for Palestine

The UN General Assembly passed a resolution accepting Palestine as the 194th member of the world body on Friday. The US has previously vetoed Palestinian statehood at the Security Council, however.

https://www.rt.com/news/597361-unga-palestine-membership-resolution/

Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2024 16:26 utc | 15

How to explain CNN and other US MSM now showing Israel’s crimes?
Does that mean that Zionists do not control everything on US?
Or some misunderstanding among yhem?
Posted by: vargas | May 10 2024 16:17 utc | 13
It means that bullshit will only take you so far. After seven months they have to worry about losing their audience and their credibility. The demos make it clear they have “lost control of the narrative”, that is what is happening.
When your job is controlling the narrative, this is a big crisis.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 10 2024 16:29 utc | 16

18:00 Al-Qassam Brigades sniper targets a Zionist officer south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood in Gaza City, inflicting a direct hit: statement
Posted by: Exile | May 10 2024 16:16 utc | 12
Al Mayadeen has a long article up now with a list of resistance attacks in Gaza. Check it out if you have not already.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 10 2024 16:31 utc | 17

Error 403 Forbidden
Forbidden
Error 54113
Details: cache-bur-kbur8200113-BUR 1715359046 3943431875
Varnish cache server
———————-
This is all I can get for the first link…?

Posted by: donten | May 10 2024 16:41 utc | 18

19:35 Al-Qassam Brigades: Our fighters fired a missile barrage at Beersheba city in response to the Zionist massacres against Gaza
https://english.almanar.com.lb/

Posted by: Exile | May 10 2024 16:53 utc | 19

Guess who took a portable paper shredder to the U.N. And shredded the charter . Shameful side gag ! Wait till the boarder goes 1947 and compensation !

Posted by: Paleologos | May 10 2024 17:06 utc | 20

@vargas
Like US “if Rafah is invaded we won’t supply weapons” 24 hrs after Rafah was invaded ?
US is “trying to stay on the good side”, creating a ‘public’ margin to later criticise “Israel” and so later apply US presence as “impartial”.
Same for UN, Palestine will be recognised once Gaza is completely finished, globalist forces will take over.
The US official stance is also to demoralise and disorientate own population.
Meanwhile:
“Hamas: Netanyahu and his extremist government are using the negotiations as a cover to attack Rafah and occupy the crossing, and continue the war of extermination against our people, and they bear full responsibility for obstructing reaching an agreement.
17:10”
And back to square one, which was not left, in fact.
End of distraction.
An interesting article on transition from UK rule in Palestine.
https://www.declassifieduk.org/israels-brutality-against-palestinians-draws-on-british-rule/
Personally I take the view that UK officially distanced itself from “Israel” after leaving the territory, that US took up the cause while UK maintained back channel influence and a relationship of elites with “Israel” . The british public have little opinion of “Israel” . To properly disentangle all the diffent facets is not easy.

Posted by: Ornot | May 10 2024 17:21 utc | 21

The first link is behind a paywall. I read an Haaretz article a couple of days ago – when did they put up a paywall?

Posted by: teri | May 10 2024 17:26 utc | 22

Overview of anti-genocide protests at US high schools
https://www.axios.com/2024/05/08/pro-palestinian-high-school-protests-students-gaza

Posted by: Exile | May 10 2024 17:28 utc | 23

of interest to MOA altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com

Posted by: anony8761 | May 10 2024 17:33 utc | 24

@ teri | May 10 2024 17:26 utc | 22
hit the ”archived” link right next to it.. it is still there and works fine..

Posted by: james | May 10 2024 17:33 utc | 25

Blinken, one week ago:
“The reality in this moment is the only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas…taking the ceasefire should be a no-brainer.”
He has since been silent on Hamas’ acceptance and Israel’s rejection of the proposal, while State Department spokespersons emphasize a new weasel phrase “major operation” (I.e. incursion of Rafah with tanks is not a “major” event).
Posted by: jayc | May 10 2024 16:03 utc | 5
HAMAS REJECTED the USA ceasefire proposal. HAMAS accepted a ceasefire proposed by Egypt-Qatar that all understood to be unacceptable to Israel. PLEASE, MOA posters get you facts before posting nonsense. Lying, misinforming, and misleading does not help the Palestinian cause.

Posted by: ahmed mohammed | May 10 2024 17:41 utc | 26

@ James:
Thanks! I didn’t even notice that, and yup, it works.

Posted by: teri | May 10 2024 17:42 utc | 27

The crazy thing is, if you read ‘right wing’ websites (even those that support the former President Trump), they are all in for whatever Israel is doing. No questions asked. If you bring up the fact that there are thousands of innocent Palestinian women and children (both Muslim and Christian) being slaughtered indiscriminately, you get banned for ‘posting Hamas propaganda.”
Nothing is going to stop this. The Israelis will ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip and take the land. Unbelievable that only Iran and Yemen are doing anything, however small, to help.

Posted by: bored | May 10 2024 18:11 utc | 28

The English PM must be arrested and stand trial for aiding and abetting the Zionists genocide in Gaza.
“A report has revealed that the UK military has flown 200 spy missions over Gaza in support of Israel, adding that the International Criminal Court (ICC) could investigate British officials over complicity in war crimes.
“The Royal Air Force (RAF) has flown 200 surveillance flights over Gaza since December, it can be revealed,” Declassified UK, an investigative journalism organization, said in a report on Wednesday.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 10 2024 18:24 utc | 29

The IDF is losing militarily. Period

Posted by: Exile | May 10 2024 18:27 utc | 30

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has warned that Israel’s invasion of Gaza’s southern city of Rafah would lead to an “epic humanitarian disaster.”

https://t.me/presstv/96097
This sounds a bit like the conclusion of the NS2 investigation which found that a crime had been committed.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2024 18:32 utc | 31

Video

Kiryat Shmona is burning after Hezbollah attack.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/27435

Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2024 18:37 utc | 32

Posted by: vargas | May 10 2024 16:17 utc | 13
I think US is starting to waver over its unconditional support for Israel. That’s why there’s some mainstream coverage of its crimes.
They have sacrificed other allies when US welfare/stability/economy was threatened. They might do so again. Which will just leave the Zionists and their imaginary friend.

Posted by: JAB | May 10 2024 18:49 utc | 33

Posted by: JAB | May 10 2024 18:49 utc | 33
We just don’t have enough weapons to give anymore so we use a shortage, that was going to cause a delay in deliveries anyway, to pretend we are anything other than the people ordering the massacre in the first place. Remember Biden called for the extermination of civilians in southern Lebanon from the senate floor in 1982. He want this. He is and always has been Biden the Butcher. Never seen an Arab or Slav that he did not want to kill.

Posted by: badjoke | May 10 2024 19:00 utc | 34

It’s beyond “brutal” “genocidal” “torture”…
It’s practiced ritual sadism on others.
It’s beyond the usual applications used in context.
“Sadism is considered a “dark” personality trait.
“Psychologists have recently coined the term “Dark Tetrad” to describe a personality that includes sadism, psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism. Researchers have found these ***four traits **appear together in individuals **more often than would be expected were they unrelated constructs.”**

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 10 2024 19:01 utc | 35

re: “. . . shadowy detention center. . .”
The Israelis have learned from the US. Such behavior has been a corner-stone of US behavior in lands it has invaded and then had to deal with “insurgents.” Such US behavior was a hallmark of “Operation Iraqi Freedom” — from the web — “US-led occupation forces have committed numerous atrocities in Iraq since the invasion of 2003. Haditha, Hamandiya, Sadr City, Samarra and Ishaqi have become synonymous with murder, rape and the multiple killing of civilians.”. .and the forever Guantanamo Bay detention camp, etc.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 10 2024 19:02 utc | 36

They have sacrificed other allies when US welfare/stability/economy was threatened. They might do so again. Which will just leave the Zionists and their imaginary friend.
Posted by: JAB | May 10 2024 18:49 utc | 33
If the US government dropped support they would still have huge amounts of support from US.
Millions of mentally addled evangelical types would kick the charity drives into overdrive to send them money. Not to mention wealthy Jews.

Posted by: Archetypex | May 10 2024 19:06 utc | 37

It’s beyond “brutal” “genocidal” “torture”…
It’s practiced ritual sadism on others.
It’s beyond the usual applications used in context.
Even further… Israel displays the “Dark Tetrad”
Sadism is considered a “dark” personality trait. Psychologists have recently coined the term “Dark Tetrad” to describe a personality that includes sadism, psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism. Researchers have found these ***four traits appear together in individuals more often than would be expected were they unrelated constructs.****
In truth, “genocide” is minimizing the damage & cruelty.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 10 2024 19:09 utc | 38

I will say, forcing the kikes to own their own genocidal impulses was a genius move I didn’t see coming.
Shit happens, war happens, ok.
What has surprised me to no end is the statements endorsing genocide, killing of women and children, at all levels of the Israeli government.
I find that shocking. Ok, kikes, that is how you play?? Whirlwind is coming.
Can you imagine if mean Uncle Adolf had HALF the shit these kikes, in the highest level of kike government, are saying??? Oh my. Imagine the quotes??? Perhaps 6 billion would have died at Auschwitz…

Posted by: Johnny | May 10 2024 19:09 utc | 39

RE: by: ahmed mohammed | May 10 2024 17:41 utc | 26
“Lying, misinforming, and misleading **does not help the Palestinian cause.”***
Neither is anything else “helping” … apparently…
Only guns and bombs are going to “help the cause” it would seem.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 10 2024 19:16 utc | 40

26 – Ahmed Mohammed
“HAMAS REJECTED the USA ceasefire proposal. HAMAS accepted a ceasefire proposed by Egypt-Qatar that all understood to be unacceptable to Israel.”
There were no separate USA / Egypt-Qatar proposals. The mediation involved all three parties, directly supervised by CIA Director Burns. A “senior US official” told Axios that Israel was in constant communication with the mediation process and that “there have been no surprises” i.e. introduction of “unacceptable” proposals. The claim that a “new proposal” was suddenly introduced came from unidentified Israeli officials speaking to Axios. Netanyahu had already dismissed the process days earlier as well.

Posted by: jayc | May 10 2024 20:31 utc | 41

mediation involved all three parties, directly supervised by CIA Director Burns. A “senior US official” told Axios that Israel was in constant communication with the mediation process and that “there have been no surprises” i.e. introduction of “unacceptable” proposals. The claim that a “new proposal” was suddenly introduced came from unidentified Israeli officials speaking to Axios. Netanyahu had already dismissed the process days earlier as well.
Posted by: jayc | May 10 2024 20:31 utc | 41
___________
Thank you.

Posted by: Gene Poole | May 10 2024 20:38 utc | 42

Interesting take.
I thought that takedown was to prevent any coseying up to Russia.
Post Khan munitions were being supplied to Ukraine from Pakistan.
Posted by: jpc | May 10 2024 16:02 utc | 4
That’s also related. Russia being tied up in Ukraine makes them less able to help Iran and Syria. Bashar al-Assad would have been toast if not for Russian aid.

Posted by: Johnny Boy | May 10 2024 20:39 utc | 43

The UNGA just voted on Palestinian statehood. A couple of European countries have said they will recognize Palestinian statehood regardless of UNSC and US veto.
I suspect Russia and China are heading that way as well. In he Donbass, Russia recognized the statehood of the two republics prior to the SMO. With that recognition, the republic could ask Russia for help/invite Russia in. Security agreements and so forth.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 20:39 utc | 44

It is happening right before our eyes but tyranny demands we accept it or not see it at all.
Tyranny is not a person, place or thing. It is a process.
Not unlike fitting a boot, not too loose, not too tight.
The end result is capture of human conscience.
Maybe thats what it means to lose one’s soul.
Who knows.
Palestine, the soul of humanity.

Posted by: simon crow | May 10 2024 21:07 utc | 45

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 20:39 utc | 44
The UNGA just voted on Palestinian statehood. A couple of European countries have said they will recognize Palestinian statehood regardless of UNSC and US veto.
I suspect Russia and China are heading that way as well. In he Donbass, Russia recognized the statehood of the two republics prior to the SMO. With that recognition, the republic could ask Russia for help/invite Russia in. Security agreements and so forth.

Hopefully this happens, and soon. Let every nation that voted to let Palestine into the UN as a full member first recognize them diplomatically as a sovereign state. Russia, Iran, China and Turkey could further offer security guarantees and back them up with boots on the ground.
Unless they secretly like having everything forever tied up in endless UN red tape whilst virtue signalling decade after decade.

Posted by: scorpion | May 10 2024 21:23 utc | 46

@ Norwegian | May 10 2024 18:37 utc | 32
i wonder if that will change a few israelis minds here?? i doubt it.. israel seems too far gone to change course..

Posted by: james | May 10 2024 21:39 utc | 47

Countries that voted against the UN General Assembly vote on a resolution for Palestine to become a full UN member:-
Argentina
Czech Republic
Hungary
Israel
Micronesia
Nauru
Palau
Papua New Guinea
United States

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 21:51 utc | 48

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 21:51 utc | 48
Hungary is a surprise; I was under the impression that Orban is independent of the ruling cabal.

Posted by: Turk 152 | May 10 2024 22:05 utc | 49

@ Siddhartha | May 10 2024 21:51 utc | 48 with the laughable list of empire remains.
Phew! Thanks for that.
Barflies need to understand that humanity does seem to be forming and expressing a conscience that says barbarism is bad. And not just a small group of nations.
An end to the existing world order is happening as reflected in b’s latest from the Economist thread. Humanity is in a civilization war about the form of social organization and I always characterize it as public/private finance, it also includes patriarchy, exceptionalism, Might-Makes-Right, etc.
How much of a move from barbarism into “socialism” is going to happen and when? If the UN vote is any indication, It seems sooner rather than later.
Will all the economic aggression of empire stop? I think only if the public/private finance nut is cracked open for all to see the ugliness of private finance/class system and society votes to try multipolarity and finance as a public utility provided by sovereign nations only.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 10 2024 22:06 utc | 50

“Gaza news now
The White House:
We regret that there is no one at the negotiating table
5.9Kviews
20:11”

Posted by: Ornot | May 10 2024 22:25 utc | 51

“Here is the truth
Breaking. Lebanese news website “Al-Nashra”: Hezbollah threatens to launch a counterattack on the Galilee and is preparing to attack all the Galilee settlements, and Al-Radwan’s forces in the field are preparing.”

Posted by: Ornot | May 10 2024 22:42 utc | 52

I have to say, I am not the least bit surprised by anything the apartheid state does to the poor Palestinians, anymore, though I am still shocked and horrified sometimes/many times by their incredible barbarism, brutality and outright butchery now against poor Gaza, and in the West Bank as well. it’s appalling. There aren’t even strong enough words for it – I would leave that to some great Arab/Palestinian poet like Mahmoud Darwish, may he rest in peace.
to hell with any ridiculous two state solution (too bad China, Russia, etc etc);
the nation-state of israel should be totally isolated, ostracized, sanctioned and then abolished. lock stock and barrel.
there’s one nation there, and it’s Palestine. and let those stay who can live in peace.
fyi,
https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/1788602187817378044
Trita Parsi @tparsi
The UN General Assembly will vote tomorrow on a resolution that may effectively make Palestine a member state of the UN. As you may recall, Biden vetoed a resolution at the UNSC earlier this year that sought to admit Palestine as a member.
Based on a draft of the resolution I have reviewed, I do believe that this resolution may become a big deal.
It does three important things. It reiterates that a Palestinian state must be created based on the 1967 borders and, by that, rejects the “facts on the ground” Israel has manufactured through its settlement project to render a Palestinian state impossible.
Second, it expresses “deep regret and concern” over Biden’s veto at the UNSC last month on this issue and recommends that the Security Council “reconsider the matter favorably.”
And thirdly, it appears to grant Palestine the full rights and privileges of a member EVEN if the UNSC fails to admit Palestine. This would be an unprecedented decision designed to circumvent Biden’s veto at the UNSC.
The draft that I have seen points out that this is done “on an exceptional basis and without setting a precedent.” This language is there in order to alleviate concerns that this could become a new tool that would be used on a regular basis to admit states such as Kosovo or Taiwan.
If it passes, it will further show how isolated the US is on this matter.
US law requires that the US defunds global institutions that admit Palestine as a member (remember the US’s “commitment” to the two-state solution?)
If Biden chooses to defund the UN as a result, it will only further undermine the US’s standing.
It is truly inescapable: Biden’s support for Israel is coming at a massive cost to the US itself.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 10 2024 22:48 utc | 53

Just read that Trump is condemning Biden….apparently interrupting the flow of bombs to kill babies, beautiful babies, is a bad thing. Trump would give them the bomb if they asked for it, or at least a working model.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 10 2024 22:52 utc | 54

The crazy thing is, if you read ‘right wing’ websites (even those that support the former President Trump), they are all in for whatever Israel is doing. No questions asked. If you bring up the fact that there are thousands of innocent Palestinian women and children (both Muslim and Christian) being slaughtered indiscriminately, you get banned for ‘posting Hamas propaganda.”
Nothing is going to stop this. The Israelis will ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip and take the land. Unbelievable that only Iran and Yemen are doing anything, however small, to help.
Posted by: bored | May 10 2024 18:11 utc | 28
This is absolutely so. They have difficulty distinguishing between the immigration issue and the Palestinian issue. It is all the same to them.
Through the vector of social media targeted propaganda, the flames of ethnic prejudice are being fanned.

Posted by: simon crow | May 10 2024 23:10 utc | 55

A headline in the oz government trash rag, Israel ambassador shreds UN Charter with a pick of him feeding bits of paper through a mini shredder.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, there is the friends of the UN charter, namely BRICS and associated groups.
The ISIS look alike death cult is fast heading to its own destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:11 utc | 56

The Global Anti-Apartheid Conference on Palestine is taking place in Sandton, Johannesburg, South Africa from May 10 – 12, 2024
The conference aims “to set the basis for the mobilisation of a Global Anti-Apartheid Movement to hold Israel accountable for its crimes against the Palestinian people, and to work to dismantle Israeli apartheid from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. This will see an intensification of the mobilisation, organisation and coordination.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/live-blog-palestine-chronicle-at-the-global-anti-apartheid-conference-on-palestine/
No mention of this momentous event in MSM as yet.

Posted by: MrH | May 10 2024 23:31 utc | 57

Wallace Shawn SLAMS Israel’s “Horrifying Sadism” & Defends Protests
https://youtu.be/QHVRmHJOP5s

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 10 2024 23:38 utc | 58

Siddhartha | May 10 2024 21:51 utc | 48
Excuse my lazyness ….
Do you have a list of the abstensions?
I’m pretty sure Ireland and Spain voted in favour as both, perhaps with Slovakia, are preparing to recognise Palestinian statehood this month. Ireland and Spain efforts to bring in more Europeans appears to have ended.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 10 2024 23:41 utc | 59

The IDF confirms that 11 of its soldiers were evacuated injured from Gaza after being attacked by a swarm of hundreds of wasps; at least one of the soldiers is now in the intensive care unit.
I mean is this April fools day. Ambushed by wasps is all they can admit

Posted by: Hankster | May 10 2024 23:46 utc | 60

Abstensions
Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Fiji, Finland, Georgia, Germany, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malawi, Marshall Islands, Monaco, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Paraguay, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom, and Vanuatu.7

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 10 2024 23:48 utc | 61

…but there’s no reason to think Khan was willing to do what no other Muslim leader will.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | May 10 2024 16:08 utc | 7
I like Mister👏
He was not a Muslim leader. He is hated by Muslims, but some Jews loved him, until they got their own existence threatened–before he was jailed for stealing gifts from the repository.
You must have a low opinion of Muslims: but they are not that low!

Posted by: Nasir | May 10 2024 23:56 utc | 62

It’s not quit as satisfying as watching Hilary’s 2016 meltdown, but nevertheless, a good start to the weekend.
https://youtu.be/5GCVFs-0Uio?si=h77u6fqgkofxLZrx

Posted by: Turk 152 | May 11 2024 0:11 utc | 63

@55
Even zio-conspiracists seem quieter, possibly due to information overload.
Disturbing but not graphic, courtesy of US armament, I hope he survived:
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/54593
I remember a story from online, a girl was at a party and gets talking to an Iraqi vet, and he takes out a photo album and it has pictures of children, he knows their names and says where and when the photos were taken, turned out they were all that he (or his unit) had killed. He said:
“That is what war is, killing other people’s children”
He later shot himself.
Poor guy.
War is no good.

Posted by: Ornot | May 11 2024 0:29 utc | 64

Guernica on display at the Paris Olympics Soon ! Palestine will send a team , Israel will ‘hear the shame ‘. Let’s see which distraction the Magicians Parasites will host.

Posted by: Paleologos | May 11 2024 0:44 utc | 65

trouble in Kuwait…just in on zero hedge.

Posted by: slippery | May 11 2024 1:00 utc | 66

Worth noting that the CNN piece on Gaza was web-only. No CNN viewer can read. Cable channel is wall-to-wall Stormy Daniels.

Posted by: JBirks | May 11 2024 1:09 utc | 67

The State Dept Report which includes assessment of Israel’s conduct in its Gazan military operations, released this afternoon, is a master-class in weasel-wording, which has allowed the western media to portray the findings as critical of Israel (if inconclusive).
In actual fact, the report absolves Israel of responsibility and gives prominence to largely debunked notions such as:
– Hamas uses civilians as human shields
-Hamas uses civilian infrastructure such as hospitals as military posts
-Hamas has engaged in widespread sexual violence
– half of the officially recorded deaths (now 35,000) were Hamas fighters
The report can be accessed here, with the pertinent information on pages 18-32:
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Report-to-Congress-under-Section-2-of-the-National-Security-Memorandum-on-Safeguards-and-Accountability-with-Respect-to-Transferred-Defense.pdf

Posted by: jayc | May 11 2024 1:13 utc | 68

Posted by: jfrchitect | May 10 2024 15:35 utc | 2
===========================================================================================
$ Oct 7 was orchestrated by evil Polish Netanyahoo and his fascist war cabinet.
$ Oct 7 was the pretext used by evil Polish Netanyahoo to remain in power.
$ Oct 7 was the execuse used by evil Polish Netanyahoo to avoid life behind bars.
$ Up to today, evil Polish Netanyahoo wishes orange criminal man returns to WH to continue with the genocide.
For context:
The current government faced a serious internal crisis due to a proposed legal reform,
which has caused significant controversy within Israeli society.
This reform, aimed at limiting the powers of the Supreme Court, including the cancelation of the
“doctrine of reasonableness” which allowed the court to assess government policy.
This mean evil Polish Netanyahoo can remain a free man for as long as he wants if he succeed with this reform.

Posted by: AI | May 11 2024 1:29 utc | 69

We are not fighting jews we are fighting satanists
They release a few prisoners to threaten the whole world not to stop their monstrous evil as they did in giving torture films to Congress to silence them under Bush from Guantanamo Bay. Sen. Bayh said it was like Pol Pot not US army and then tearfully apologized after being threatened.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-13-4/
Revelation 13:4
“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
We Can!!!
“And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-12-11/
1 The world is very evil,
The times are waxing late;
Be sober and keep vigil,
The Judge is at the gate;
The Judge that comes in mercy,
The Judge that comes with might,
To terminate the evil,
To diadem the right.
2 Arise, arise, good Christian,
Let right to wrong succeed;
Let penitential sorrow
To heav’nly gladness lead
https://hymnary.org/text/the_world_is_very_evil
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com › questions › 76770 › why-are-the-days-evil
Why are the days evil? – Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange
Jun 9, 202214 This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” 15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s

Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 11 2024 1:49 utc | 70

re: “. . . shadowy detention center. . .”
The Israelis have learned from the US. Such behavior has been a corner-stone of US behavior in lands it has invaded and then had to deal with “insurgents.” Such US behavior was a hallmark of “Operation Iraqi Freedom” — from the web — “US-led occupation forces have committed numerous atrocities in Iraq since the invasion of 2003. Haditha, Hamandiya, Sadr City, Samarra and Ishaqi have become synonymous with murder, rape and the multiple killing of civilians.”. .and the forever Guantanamo Bay detention camp, etc.
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 10 2024 19:02 utc | 36
I beg to differ, Don.
Have you forgotten G Dubya Bush’s post-9/11 Axis Of Evil declaration which included Iran, Iraq, Libya & Syria?
That declaration hilighted the fact that control of US Politics had been successfully transferred from Washington to Tel Aviv. The outcome was the War On Terror (for the Jews) and resulted in the destruction of Iraq, Syria and Libya as functioning states.
i.e. AmeriKKKa became Jewrael’s Bull In A China Shop.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 11 2024 1:50 utc | 71

Sarah Wilkinson
@swilkinsonbc
In Chile’s capital, the women of Santiago take over the streets for Palestine, for Gaza, for all our humanity, for love | via @Palestine001_
https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1788862261139751406

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 2:05 utc | 72

COMBATE |🇵🇷
@upholdreality
The US flag no longer flies over the University of Puerto Rico (US colony)
Students have replaced it with the flag of Palestine
https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1789036992405078486

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 2:05 utc | 73

Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis
@DrLoupis
Israel just BOMBED a headquarters of an INTERNET COMMUNICATION company in Rafah, in an attempt to SILENCE the media!
They also BANNED @AlJazeera
and killed hundreds of Journalists to stop the truth from getting out.
https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1788929912100798647

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 2:07 utc | 74

Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
@jacksonhinklle
❤️🇵🇸 If you thought THEY were going to lose to Israel’s “woke warriors,” you are an idiot.
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1788906834813661323

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 2:08 utc | 75

Abby Martin
@AbbyMartin
I reject the premise of Israel’s genocide that “something needs to be done about Hamas” when Israel is the brutal colonizer. Israel has no right to do anything to Palestinians.
https://twitter.com/AbbyMartin/status/1788975778547540322

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 2:09 utc | 76

Quds News Network
@QudsNen
Israeli settler mobs, under the supervision of the Israeli government, are sabotaging roads leading to Gaza to block and prevent humanitarian aid convoys from reaching the Strip.
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1788561265545081202

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 2:10 utc | 77

Isaías 28:18 (KJV)
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
https://www.bibliaya.com/buscar-kjv-isaias-28-18

Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 11 2024 2:29 utc | 78

I mean is this April fools day. Ambushed by wasps is all they can admit
Posted by: Hankster | May 10 2024 23:46 utc | 60
April fools, hmmm. Maybe it was a different kind of wasp: white anglo saxon protestant?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 11 2024 2:36 utc | 79

Menz | May 11 2024 2:07 utc | 74
The American empire in its full glory and regalia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:53 utc | 80

Excellent political cartoon – reducing to 500 lb bombs is antisemitic!
https://www.rutlandherald.com/opinion/commentary/danziger/image_3981d646-0a90-51e8-b4a3-9198916efbce.html

Posted by: daffyDuct | May 11 2024 3:02 utc | 81

why doesn’t the ICC just do its real one and only job, in these dark days?
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1789080149633208628
Quds News Network @QudsNen
BREAKING| Colombia President Gustavo Petro calls for the International Criminal Court (ICC) to issue an arrest warrant for Netanyahu.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 11 2024 3:04 utc | 82

A WHITE DOVE took off. The Grand Greek Orthodox order of Palestine and JERUSALEM , ST .DEMETRIOS , ST.MICHAEL , and ST GEORGE, have requested the actual relic ,”THE CINCTURE OF THE MOTHER OF GOD ”BE DELIVERED FROM VATOPAIDI, MT ATHOS , TO BE DELIVERED TO GAZA . ” for it is time , for he has risen, breathing cinnabar ” .

Posted by: Paleologos | May 11 2024 3:22 utc | 83

What Rafah Reveals – 12 mins review Sahid Bolsen Middle Nation
America even signaled that they were in favor of this ceasefire
proposal but almost immediately after Hamas announced their
acceptance of this plan Israel launched an attack on Rafah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDv7cSUsSQU
Ireland snubs Israel, makes announcement in UN to recognise State of Palestine
3 hours ago – 8 mins speech to UNGA
………… when Palestine brings a
resolution to the security Council or
general assembly, when it utilizes the
mechanism of the international court of
justice and the international criminal
court, when it successfully advocates for
the creation of a commission of inquiry
by the Human Rights Council this is not
terrorism and that is why Ireland will
in the coming weeks formally recognize
the state of Palestine. I repeat in the
coming weeks we will formally recognize
the state of Palestine. thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3AcIV5Yfyo

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 11 2024 3:35 utc | 84

PS Ireland to officially recognise State of Palestine
…… 12 years ago when the general
assembly accorded non-member Observer
State status to Palestine an
overwhelming majority of States voted in
favor that overwhelming majority of
States also made clear their support for
full membership of the United Nations
for the state of Palestine
and that overwhelming majority of
States reaffirmed the right of the
Palestinian people to self-determination
which importantly which crucially
includes the right to an independent
state for Palestine
and now as we return to this issue
in truly desperate circumstances
for the Palestinian people when even as
we speak the suffering and the hunger
and the horror continues in Gaza and
when a negotiated settlement that allows
both the Palestinian and Israeli peoples
to live in peace security and dignity
seem so very very far away it is clear
that lack of international support for
Palestinian self-determination is not
the issue that support is real it is
tangible here in this chamber but also
far beyond this chamber the real problem
the real problem has been the failure
over many years to act on this support
in a tangible way the failure of the
International Community to insist on
concrete and irreversible measures and
actions to demonstrate that they take
the rights and the dignity and the
security of the Palestinian people as
seriously as they rightly take the
rights and the dignity and the security
of the Israeli people
we know that the two-state
solution Remains the only viable option
the only viable option to secure a just
and Lasting peace that fulfills these
rights for both peoples
this chamber must have heard the
phrase support for the two-state
solution Ed by world leaders foreign
ministers ambassadors hundreds of
thousands of times but today today is
the day that we take one small step to
convert that phrase from a comforting
platitude into a concrete reality to
declare clearly and unequivocally that
Palestine is as the resolution says
qualified for membership in the United
Nations in accordance with article four
of the charter and should therefore be
admitted to membership in the United
Nations

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 11 2024 3:42 utc | 85

Posted by: Turk 152 | May 10 2024 22:05 utc | 49
Orban’s interesting week with Xi — charmed by a flower girl
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=T_uXL4HAZPc&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTY0OTksMTY0OTksMjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | May 11 2024 4:05 utc | 86

Entire 12 minute speech by Likudnik at UNGA against Palestine membership, at end he shreds UN Charter. Worth carefully listening to entire speech ; enormous amount to unpack in those 12 minutes.
One suspects that the effect of his speech was only to further isolate Israel. It’s truely remarkable how tone deaf the Likudniks are.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=ln3jUHV1–b_fXfk&v=9cAHZ8wl8L8&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Exile | May 11 2024 4:15 utc | 87

Biden’s support for Israel is coming at a massive cost to the US itself.
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 10 2024 22:48 utc | 53
First, that is a very good thing.
But I that is the wrong way to say it – because Biden is irrelevant here – stop giving him the “agency” or “power” he does not posses or wield. No President has been or would be any different.
The correct rational way to look at this Palestine situation is very easy-
The US Govts & the American people’s preeminent support for Israel across decades is coming at a massive cost to the US itself…. finally.
And that is a good thing. May they collectively suffer hard and long for their stand against the Palestinian people and their human and legal rights as a people.
AS well as for their vile inhumane stand against the Russian, Chinese,Ukrainian, Libyans, Syrian, Nicaraguan, Venezuelan, Iranian, Iraqi, Houthi, Afghani, Vietnamese, Chilean, Latin American peoples across all nations, and all the other peoples of the world they have abused, threatened, controlled, impoverished, terrorised and slaughtered.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 11 2024 4:27 utc | 88

/cheep
Every little thing you can do to support good and stifle evil in your garden counts. Every white kite flown, every watermelon icon displayed, every BDS done, every paid off debt, every reduced consumption of the empire’s goods and services… It all adds up. You count, you matter, and if no one else sees, you (and if you believe, those behind the veil of the living) at least see. 🙂
Do the right thing for your self, especially when no one’s watching. 🙂
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | May 11 2024 4:46 utc | 89

Posted by: Exile | May 11 2024 4:15 utc | 87
No doubt the speech was aimed at the domestic audience. Pretty soon it will be down to Israel and their imaginary friend.
Let’s see how tough they are then.

Posted by: JAB | May 11 2024 4:51 utc | 90

Posted by: Turk 152 | May 10 2024 22:05 utc | 49

Hungary is a surprise; I was under the impression that Orban is independent of the ruling cabal.

My impression is that Orban is against the two-state solution. He wants to see all the land between the river and the sea one country with a heterogeneous population of Jews, Arabs, and other ethnocentricities.

Posted by: Alchemist | May 11 2024 5:19 utc | 91

The speech certainly was a masterful example of rhetoric – but the bald faced lies ( beheaded babies ) plus the overt racism ( sub-human Arabs ) and finally the vague accusations of corruption surely alienated the vast majority of diplomatic community.
The world already knows on 7.Oct the Likud ordered IDF gunships and main battle tanks to spray-and-pray massacring 400+ Israelis in a manic display of the Hannibal Directive. So using the 7.Oct to justify the (plausible) genocide only undermines Israel’s self-defense claims.
Throughout the entire 12 minutes, one can imagine the diplomats were thinking about the hundreds of videos they’ve seen of suffering children and acres of rubble. The phrase “who you gonna believe me or your own lieing eyes” comes to mind.
The speech will stand in history as an example of how not to win hearts and minds.

Posted by: Exile | May 11 2024 5:19 utc | 92

Below is a posting title from The Cradle that may bring a smile to the face of some barflies
‘Bushnell’s Men’ hack 30,000 western printers in protest of Gaza genocide
the quote

A hacker group dedicated to the memory of Aaron Bushnell, who burned himself to death in February in protest of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, has hacked into printers worldwide, causing them to print flyers promoting Bushnell’s message.
The hacker group, Bushnell’s Men, posted a message on its Telegram page on 14 March stating, “Due to the press boycott of the genocide in Gaza by countries profiting from the war, ‘The Bushnell’s Men’ as a hacker group is committed to exposing the reality via printing this paper through over 30,000 printers across the world.”
The message stated further, “We ask all truth-seekers to join the #Bushnellmen campaign in this regard. Our ultimate goal is to convey Aaron’s message to stop the genocide. Aaron put an end to his life on behalf of the other American soldiers who are forced to kill the innocent people in Gaza. Aaron didn’t die in vain. He has already inspired so many to stand up for truth and justice.”

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 11 2024 5:41 utc | 93

@daffyDuct | May 11 2024 3:02 utc | 81
your link results in this message

451: Unavailable due to legal reasons
We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact customerservices@rutlandherald.com or call 802-747-6121.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 11 2024 6:58 utc | 94

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 10 2024 23:48 utc | 61

Abstensions
Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Fiji, Finland, Georgia, Germany, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malawi, Marshall Islands, Monaco, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Paraguay, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom, and Vanuatu.7

Thank you Don. Full results available on Al Jazeera site.
Not much surprise from the abstaining block. I also wonder if Georgia is hoping to stave off the coming colour revolution?
I didn’t see Venezuela’s vote. Were they absent?

Posted by: robin | May 11 2024 7:10 utc | 95

Posted by: Alchemist | May 11 2024 5:19 utc | 91

My impression is that Orban is against the two-state solution. He wants to see all the land between the river and the sea one country with a heterogeneous population of Jews, Arabs, and other ethnocentricities.

That would be very uncharacteristic as Victor Orban is overtly pro Israel.

Posted by: robin | May 11 2024 7:12 utc | 96

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 11 2024 4:27 utc | 88
—————————————————
Well said!
There has been a lot of suffering for too long.
History does not forget. History does not forgive.

Posted by: AI | May 11 2024 8:06 utc | 97

Posted by: Exile | May 11 2024 5:19 utc | 92
I’m pretty sure the speech was for domestic consumption.

Posted by: JAB | May 11 2024 8:07 utc | 98

JAB,
Agreed that speech was for domestic consumption. Surely to rally the cadre for Final
Victory. One must then ask, what was the calculus for the Likud to make such a alienating speech at the UNGA ?
My only explaination is the Likud wants Israelis to be isolated and feeling besieged. Someone once described the Likud as having a massive Masada obsession. TBD

Posted by: Exile | May 11 2024 8:22 utc | 99

“Hungary is a surprise; I was under the impression that Orban is independent of the ruling cabal.”
Here there is a confusion between Pharisee Zionism and Sadducee Zionism
Orban is a troglodyte who, logically and naturally, cannot stand the theatrical and insufferable mask of the other version of the same thing.
In the end they are two teenage aesthetics; but sociopaths who have power (like the plebs) give great importance to costumes, masks and staging.

Posted by: Simon | May 11 2024 8:47 utc | 100

Back to Main