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Posted by b on May 8, 2024 at 15:20 UTC | Permalink
next page »Biden links October 7th with Holocaust,
links Genocide protests with antisemitism.
The US has mandated eight days for Holocaust Remembrance each year.
And each President bows to The Lobby and must give a speech.
As this is a useful tool to support the Genocide of Palestinians
Biden didn't disappoint The Lobby.
Remarks by President Biden at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s Annual Days of Remembrance Ceremony
excerpts:
But there is no place on any campus in America — any place in America — for antisemitism or hate speech or threats of violence of any kind — (applause) — whether against Jews or anyone else.
Violent attacks, destroying property is not peaceful protest. It’s against the law. And we are not a lawless country. We’re a civil society. We uphold the rule of law.
And no one should have to hide or be brave just to be themselves. (Applause.)
To the Jewish community, I want you to know I see your fear, your hurt, and your pain.
Let me reassure you, as your President, you are not alone. You belong. You always have, and you always will.
And my commitment to the safety of the Jewish people, the security of Israel, and its right to exist as an independent Jewish state is ironclad, even when we disagree. (Applause.)
Now, here we are, not 75 years later but just seven and a half months later, and people are already forgetting. They’re already forgetting that Hamas unleashed this terror, that it was Hamas that brutalized Israelis, that it was Hamas who took and continues to hold hostages. I have not forgotten, nor have you, and we will not forget. (Applause.)
And as Jews around the world still cope with the atrocities and trauma of that day and its aftermath, we’ve seen a ferocious surge of antisemitism in America and around the world: vicious propaganda on social media, Jews forced to keep their — hide their kippahs under baseball hats, tuck their Jewish stars into their shirts.
On college campuses, Jewish students blocked, harassed, attacked while walking to class.
Antisemitism — antisemitic posters, slogans calling for the annihilation of Israel, the world’s only Jewish State.
Too many people denying, downplaying, rationalizing, ignoring the horrors of the Holocaust and October 7th, including Hamas’s appalling use of sexual violence to torture and terrorize Jews.
It’s absolutely despicable, and it must stop.
Silence — (applause) — silence and denial can hide much, but it can erase nothing. Some injustices are so heinous, so horrific, so grievous, they cannot be muri- — buried, no matter how hard people try.In my view, a major lesson of the Holocaust is, as mentioned earlier, it’s not — was not inevitable. We know hate never goes away; it only hides. And given a little oxygen, it comes out from under the rocks.
But we also know what stops hate. One thing: all of us.
Some have learned the lessons of the Holocaust and pour into the streets to protest Genocide.
Others have learned to manipulate the slur of antisemitism to silence those that protest against Genocide.
Posted by: librul | May 8 2024 15:41 utc | 2
Here's a good overview of the Arc of Resistance in West Asia, "THE AXIS OF RESISTANCE", although the comments are a waste of time.
Here is a security report of the link provided by
@Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2024 15:44 utc | 3
https://radar.cloudflare.com/scan/5c38de74-ec38-430a-a36e-c4f58bf516a2/summary
First time that I recall using that url reporter.
Nothing stands out with the link provided by karlof1
except the unsecure cookies. Don't know if that is typical of cookies or not.
Assistance, any one.
Posted by: librul | May 8 2024 15:52 utc | 4
When are we going to stop calling it a genocide and call it what it is - a holocaust.
"Holocaust victims were people targeted by the government ... based on their ethnicity, religion, political beliefs, disability or sexual orientation." [source Wikipedia Holocaust victims][my edit]
The Israeli government has gone full Nazi on the Palestinian people.
Posted by: Bill R | May 8 2024 16:25 utc | 6
Levantine News sources ( that I find illuminating )
Lebanese website
https://english.almanar.com.lb/
Palestine Chronicle
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/
Middle East Eye
https://www.middleeasteye.net/
Electronic Infintada
https://electronicintifada.net/
Posted by: Exile | May 8 2024 16:25 utc | 7
Here is "holocaust scholar" Amos Goldberg at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, saying Jews will be connected to this genocide forever. And that the Gazacaust is "undoubtedly" a genocide.
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Goldberg wrote in The Palestine Project: “Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult and painful to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come.”
Posted by: Hegar | May 8 2024 17:01 utc | 9
A Jewish senator kvetched that he got "anti-Semitic" tweets after supporting the mass murder of the goyim. He (or rather his younger aides) posted a video with a collection of the forbidden truth-telling.
One tweet caught my eye:
October 7 will be remembered as a slave revolt.
That is actually genius. We should use the word slave rebellion. People are so indoctrinated into thinking slavery is heinous, that they'll always understand and forgive a "slave rebellion's" violence.
(Btw, in the year 1800 20% of mankind was held in some form of bondage. Indian tribes in the America held slaves - other Indians, Whites, and Blacks. They brought thousands of their Black slaves on the "trail of tears," while some had been shipped ahead. Indians, Africans, Ottomans, Central Asians, East Asians, all had to be forced by Whites to give up their slaves. Often at gunpoint. The Ottomans were threatened with cutting off trade. The "shores of Tripoli" in the U.S. national anthem refers to freeing the White slaves held by the Arabs. Who had been raiding Europe for many centuries to take slaves, especially White women, hundreds of thousands. Even Chinese Buddhist monks held slaves. Comanches and Apaches took each other as slaves - to sell to other Indian tribes. The Dahomey kingdom in Africa, hailed by Hollywood for at one point having female warrior, was built on slavery. The British had to blockade their port to make them stop. When the British went away they started enslaving other Africans again, and the British had to return. It is ONLY thanks to Whites that slavery was erased - it was an ever-present arrangement in societies all over the world. Haven't heard about that, have you?)
Posted by: Hegar | May 8 2024 17:08 utc | 10
11 minute Video :
As a Holocaust Survivor Israel’s genocide in Gaza is not done in my name.
I see echoes of the Holocaust in Gaza today:
Dehumanisation, humiliation, large-scale killings, destruction of families and the determination in which they are destroying the whole of Gaza is very similar to the cruelty of the fascist regimes and it should not be controversial to say so.
What happened to the Jewish people, the industrial scale of extermination and invisible emotional pain, is so horrendous that it should never be repeated anywhere in the world.
That is why we say not in our name and Never Again.
Fascism thrives on indifference and the general public being intimidated or looking the other way due to self-preservation.
Don’t look the other way.
Be brave and on the right side of history.
Stephen Kapos
Posted by: Exile | May 8 2024 17:08 utc | 11
# University of Dublin Trinity students likely to end encampment after deal with college over Israeli ties
Protest led to shutdown of city centre campus, including Book of Kells, since last Friday
Student protesters look set to end their encampment at Trinity College Dublin over the institution’s ties to Israel following talks with university management.
The campus in Dublin city centre, which hosts the Book of Kells, has been closed to the public since Friday night when students erected tents near the tourist attraction in protest against the universities ties to Israel.
# Eurovision: Bambie Thug was asked to remove pro-Palestinian Ogham writing for performance
European Broadcasting Union says writing on artist’s body ‘contravened contest rules’
Ireland’s Eurovision entrant Bambie Thug has said they were asked to remove pro-Palestinian messaging written in Ogham on their body before Tuesday night’s semi-final.
As part of their stage costume, Bambie had Ogham script written on their face and legs. Some of the writing was about the conflict in Gaza, with script spelling out “Ceasefire” and “Freedom for Palestine”.
[...] There has been controversy surrounding this year’s Eurovision, due to the inclusion of Israel in the competition.
Last month, more than 400 Irish artists called for Bambie to boycott the event in solidarity with Palestine. The letter, which was posted on the Ireland Palestine Solidarity campaign website, said participating in Eurovision would mean the artist is “standing with the oppressor”.
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 8 2024 17:25 utc | 12
Anyone droning on and on about the “yesteryear” Holocaust while simultaneously ignoring this one, is a phony attention seeker. Should we “internationally” recognize “Armenia”? “ Rwanda”? … don’t have to go to 1945 to recognize “Holocaust” in various parts of the world.
What about the Poles, Russians, Gypsies? Nothing?
These parading imbeciles are disgusting.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 8 2024 17:36 utc | 13
Mael Vogue....new release on YouTube, for now. It was banned.
One Man's Terrorist
All proceeds go to Medical Aid For Palestine.
My phone won't let me post links, likely operator error....
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 8 2024 17:53 utc | 14
The Cradle announces Ansarallah's new maritime strategy, "Yemen’s strategic escalation into the Mediterranean":
This phase will target Israeli ships or those heading to Israeli ports in the Mediterranean Sea and impose comprehensive sanctions on all vessels linked to companies that frequent the occupied state’s ports. Furthermore, the measures will be applied to all shipping vessels and companies that deliver goods to Israel, regardless of their final destinations. This effectively bars them from all Yemeni operational waterways.The declaration of this fourth phase is a clear signal of widening the conflict zone to include the Mediterranean and tightening the siege on Israel, which economically depends on sea trade. It poses a renewed challenge to Tel Aviv and its allies, increasing pressure, particularly on Washington and its European partners. [My Emphasis]
Several maps are included one of which shows the operational range of Ansarallah's weapons. The bolded addition is of great importance as it says if you deliver one cargo to the Zionists all your shipping will now be targeted regardless their activity since they're part of an organization helping the Genocide. The "scope" map shows drones or cruise missiles could traverse Africa and enter the Med after exiting Egypt. IMO, it would be political suicide for Sissi to target them, so he will let them pass. Such a move would apply extreme pressure to those allied with the Zionists to increase their defensive efforts and thus the monies outlaid. IMO, the West won't laugh at this development as the number of potential targets will vastly increase. There's also an arms race happening--can Ansarallah produce its weapons faster than the West can produce its counters and keep its aircraft in serviceable condition after flying so many sorties? The months ahead will provide an answer.
“What Rafah Reveals”. Middle Nation
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RDv7cSUsSQU
Exposes Israel not in control. US hypocrisy globally terminal for US.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 8 2024 18:05 utc | 16
@ Hegar | May 8 2024 17:08 utc | 10
thanks hegar.. slave revolt or rebellion is a good way to frame it.. that is exactly what it is..
Posted by: james | May 8 2024 18:12 utc | 17
"What happened to the Jewish people, the industrial scale of extermination and invisible emotional pain, is so horrendous that it should never be repeated anywhere in the world.That is why we say not in our name and Never Again."
Stephen Kapos
I almost threw up reading this criminally dishonest crap. Mr. Kapos uses the fake hollow cost as his reason for criticizing the junatics indiscriminately murdering the legitimate people of Palestine in an actual REAL TIME HOLOcaust!
He gets to make himself look good while promoting the vile lie of "industrial scale extermination" of his co-defendants. That's primo grade chutzpa, that is...
Posted by: arthurdecco | May 8 2024 18:25 utc | 18
Posted by: arthurdecco | May 8 2024 18:25 utc | 18
Everyone has seen the proven lies from Gaza by jews, now they wonder what else have they lied about ?
Their Holocaust myth is where they draw their fraudulent moral authority from to justify doing unspeakable things to every variety of gentile people.
It is also the same thing that stops any White people anywhere from organizing in their own self interests.
Posted by: ryanggg | May 8 2024 18:35 utc | 19
Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2024 17:57 utc | 15
Dear Mr. Sanchez:
I appreciate your effort to illuminate us. I have not doubt that you are a noble and faithful human. But, for the Peter's sake!, review your own words in order to be rigorous: Moldovan language is Romanian language. Review your post speaking about Moldova
.
You won't need moldovan language. Do you?
I only have a problem with you: why do you opt to make your knowledge so irrelevant, so out off the factual live: you are a good human who repeat what?.
There's not doubt in my heart that you are true.
A salute
Posted by: shit | May 8 2024 18:45 utc | 20
Jesus! I need to get out of this hell hole before its too late.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1788247802931237072
Posted by: Emma | May 8 2024 18:50 utc | 21
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 8 2024 18:05 utc | 16
thanks
excellent perspective
Posted by: ld | May 8 2024 18:52 utc | 22
shit | May 8 2024 18:45 utc | 20--
Thanks for your albeit negative reply. Before I wrote my comment I looked into the entomological roots of both the Moldovan and Romanian languages and their national histories. They are both Romance Languages that are Indo-European languages stemming from Latin that are present in many European nations, with this map showing their distribution, which is somewhat odd. I'm sure there're some linguistical studies showing the distance between the various dialects that would be interesting reading. It's clear your agenda has nothing to do with either language but you feel the need to hide and erect a strawman. You should just come out and openly advocate for Moldova to become a NATO/EU slave state by submitting itself to Romanian control, which is Maia Sandu's quest.
Posted by: arthurdecco | May 8 2024 18:25 utc | 18
Well said.
Empire of Lies indeed.
Shit. Two more items from Al Jazeera live feed. First one is blatant Israeli lie, because they just assume they can get away with arbitrarily dispensing with any agreement they signed at any time, and the second item is as awful and disgusting as anything we've come to expect of these fetid beasts.
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1st:
Rafah crossing takeover doesn’t violate peace treaty with Egypt: Israel
Israel says its capture of the Rafah crossing in the southern Gaza Strip doesn’t violate its peace treaty with Egypt.
“Israel is aware of the sensitivity of military operations near the Egyptian border. We affirm this operation does not violate the peace treaty between the two countries,” Ofir Gendelman, a spokesperson for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a video message on X.
“The operation at the Rafah crossing will continue until Hamas is eliminated and releasing the Israeli hostages.”
The Egyptian foreign ministry called the move a “dangerous escalation”.
Israel and Egypt signed a peace treaty in 1979 under which Israeli forces withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula and the two countries normalised relations. The Israeli army seized control on Tuesday of the Palestinian side of the Rafah crossing on the border with Egypt, a vital route for humanitarian aid into the besieged territory.
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2nd item:
People buried alive at al-Shifa Hospital: Gaza health official
Motasem Salah, director of the Gaza Emergency Operations Centre, says medics recovered more than 50 bodies from the mass grave at the medical complex since Tuesday.
“There were also bodies in the reception and emergency department. Part of the department was completely demolished, and the rubble and debris were moved over the patients,” Salah said in a video message.
“The bodies we found were on beds at the reception and emergency department, meaning Israel destroyed the department over the heads of sick and injured people – and they were buried alive.”
Posted by: teri | May 8 2024 19:07 utc | 25
This is interesting:
'Netanyahu, who is planning a long-term presence in Gaza 'partially approved' by the US'
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-gaza-abandoned-freeing-captives-military-officers
Posted by: JB | May 8 2024 19:12 utc | 26
It is also the same thing that stops any White people anywhere from organizing in their own self interests.
Posted by: ryanggg | May 8 2024 18:35 utc | 19
I thought White people organizing a coalition of the willing to invade Iraq (or Libya, or Syria, or Vietnam, or Yugoslavia etc...) was "organizing in their own self interest" ...?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 8 2024 19:15 utc | 27
I do not have any time to live; I'm Palestinian: I have time to die.
But...
Before I must
Return to your simplicity.
Recognize your voice.
You must not.
If you think.
Because you think.
Why are we so lack of heart
that we depend
off
Your sensible love?
My love
My live.
Not yours
My Love.
Posted by: shita | May 8 2024 19:15 utc | 28
That is right Hegar Britain abolished slavery, Prince Albert, Wilberforce leading the way.
Jews asked to still be allowed to practise slavery:
Might we not have hoped, that the slaves of this
Protestant and free nation, might have had some
compensation made to them, for the evils of their temporal
bondage, by a prospect being opened to them of a happier
world hereafter, a world of light and liberty? But, alas! no
such cheering prospects are pointed out to them.
Slave Owners Justify Slavery on Biblical Grounds
It is however, most of all astonishing, that our opponents
attempt to vindicate the slave trade on grounds of religion
also. The only argument which they urge with, the slightest
color of reason is that slavery was allowed under the Jewish
dispensation. The Jews were exalted by the express
designation of heaven to a state of eminence above the
strangers who sojourned among them, and the heathen who
dwelt around them, from either of whom, as a mark of their
own dominion, God, who has a right to assign to all his
creatures their several places in the scale of being, allowed
them to take bondmen and bondwomen, treating them,
however, with kindness, remembering their own feelings
when they were slaves in Egypt, and admitting them to the
chief national privileges, to the circumcision, to the
passover, and other solemn feasts, and thus instructing
them in the true religion.
https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/uploaded/50b649ccc5e960.06979983.pdf
Posted by: phenon | May 8 2024 19:24 utc | 29
here is Christian opposition to Jewish arguments for slavery (that seem supremacist clearly)
But they who thus urge on us the Divine toleration of slavery
under the Jewish Theocracy, should remember that the Jews
themselves were expressly commanded not to retain any of
their own nation, any of their brethren in slavery, except as
a punishment, or by their own consent; and even these were
to be set free on the return of the sabbatical, or the seventh
year. Inasmuch therefore, as we are repeatedly and
expressly told that Christ has done away all distinctions of
nations, and made all mankind one great family, all our
fellow creatures are now our brethren; and therefore the
very principles and spirit of the Jewish law itself would forbid
our keeping the Africans, any more than our own fellow
subjects, in a state of slavery. But even supposing, contrary
to the fact, that our opponents had succeeded in proving
that the slave trade was not contrary to the Jewish law, this
would only prove that they would be entitled to carry it on if
they were Jews, and could, like the Jews, produce
satisfactory proof that they were the chosen people of God.
William Wilberforce (Christian Abolitionist)
A Letter on the Abolition of the slave trade, Addressed to the
Freeholders and Other Inhabitants of Yorkshire, by William Wilberforce.
London, 1807
Posted by: phenon | May 8 2024 19:30 utc | 30
Really!
The thing is that you speak about a language, moldovan, like an American arrogant idiot.
Moldovanian language is romanian language: every moldovanian girl or boy speak in the same language.
Posted by: shit | May 8 2024 19:30 utc | 31
This poor Jewish guy was just walking innocently, when he got grabbed by some Pro-Terrorism protestors, n they almost Holocausted him !
His children n grandchildren will hear about it ab nauseum, if he ever manages to procreate.
https://dailystormer.in/watch-jew-taunts-gaza-solidarity-protesters-in-manhattan-gets-punched/
I’m sorry, it might be illegal to talk about this.
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 19:36 utc | 32
Wilberforce here says Jews do not listen to religious argument
But really it would be consuming your time to no purpose, to
enter into a formal proof, that fraud, rapine, and cruelty, are
contrary to that religion, which commands us to love our
neighbor as ourselves, and to do to others as we would have
them do to us. I cannot persuade myself that our opponents
are serious in using this argument, and therefore I will
proceed no farther with this discussion. Besides, even
granting that it were possible for any of them to be seriously
convinced that Christianity does not prohibit the slave trade,
I should still have no great encouragement to proceed, for,
it may be prejudice, but I cannot persuade myself that they
are so much under the practical influence of religion, that if
we should convince their understandings, we should alter
their conduct.
Wilberforce
Posted by: phenon | May 8 2024 19:37 utc | 33
Si te-ai dus, dulce minune,
S-a murit iubirea noastra
Floare-albastra! floare-albastra!...
Totusi este trist în lume!”
Posted by: shita | May 8 2024 19:41 utc | 34
Si te-ai dus, dulce minune,
S-a murit iubirea noastra
Floare-albastra! floare-albastra!...
Totusi este trist în lume!”
Posted by: shita | May 8 2024 19:41 utc | 35
Posted by: teri | May 8 2024 19:07 utc | 25
The Jews are acting nervous about the Rafah border crossing, really trying to demonstrate that they own it because they are in trouble if they lose control there. IMHO the key to a ceasefire agreement is who ends up controlling the Rafah crossing.
Right now Israel inspects everything crossing into Gaza from Egypt and has the power to stop the flow of food and goods into the strip. If it retains that ability in a ceasefire agreement, then the Palestinians have lost and its back to apartheid.
However, if Hamas is able to persuade the Jews to surrender control of the Rafah crossing then Hamas has won the beginning of a Palestinian state.
Posted by: Chas | May 8 2024 19:44 utc | 36
https://twitter.com/ADrumain/status/1788297047998656901/photo/1
Posted by: BoardinDundee | May 8 2024 19:57 utc | 37
Wilberforce was convinced of the importance of religion, morality and education. Founding the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.
In later years, Wilberforce supported the campaign for the complete abolition of slavery and continued his involvement after 1826, That campaign led to the Slavery Abolition Act 1833, which abolished slavery in most of the British Empire. Wilberforce died just three days after hearing that the passage of the Act through Parliament was assured. He was buried in Westminster Abbey
Posted by: phenon | May 8 2024 20:02 utc | 38
Hagar
Yes it is a war of the rich on the poor. The entire Hegemon is supporting the 1 % (which thanks to covid is now 0,5 %)
Posted by: Minaa | May 8 2024 20:02 utc | 39
MAKE NO MISTAKE :
There was only ever ONE Holocaust.
in WW2 there were a lotta people that died, but whatever, the global population was too high anyway.
Meanwhile, 6 BILLION JEWS DIED BECAUSE OF WHITE SUPREMACY, and SLAVERY !
it is disgustingly shameful and anti-semitic to deny the Holocaust !
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:09 utc | 40
The world has changed and Israel fights like it is 1945 but it is not.
We live in a world where the truth gets half way round the world before a lie puts its pants on.
Posted by: phenon | May 8 2024 15:39 utc | 1
A first post has rarely been sweeter. :) May this inverting of Mark Twain's lament be our new present and future. And given the desperation to quash TikTok & kick out Al Jazeera, it means the evil imperial bastards knows too it is true.
Let the sun shine in!
/cheep
Posted by: titmouse | May 8 2024 20:09 utc | 41
Уour claim is not correct. All people in Moldavia speak Romania, even in transnitia. We speak many languages. Even between us.
Indeed, we are poor, but we speak moldovan (romanian), ruski (moskow) and english. Moldavia (the phonetically) speaks in a very clear language: Romano.
Posted by: Shita | May 8 2024 20:13 utc | 42
This poor Jewish guy was just walking innocently, when he got grabbed by some Pro-Terrorism protestors, n they almost Holocausted him !
His children n grandchildren will hear about it ab nauseum, if he ever manages to procreate.
https://dailystormer.in/watch-jew-taunts-gaza-solidarity-protesters-in-manhattan-gets-punched/
I’m sorry, it might be illegal to talk about this.
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 19:36 utc | 32
Yeah just not posting links from far right website tbh
I deffo recommend Judge Napolitanos Daily youtube videos from better sources that is portable etc for the greater voice etc , This entire thing in Gaza and Ukraine is giving me the fear like its the 80s again and oblivious to Able archer apart from the John Cravens news before Blue Peter ;) Hello and today we will be building Nuclear war shelters today , and Velebrating 10. million bottle caps for joey
Posted by: BoardinDundee | May 8 2024 20:21 utc | 44
Anti-semitism is worse than genocide btw.
With Anti-semitism, people CONTINUE TO SUFFER, whereas with genocide, they’re dead, no fuss no muss.
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:26 utc | 45
In Moldova all the people know how to speak moldovan, that is, romanian. There is no different between the same language between us.
Sorry.
Posted by: shita | May 8 2024 20:26 utc | 46
@ Posted by: BoardinDundee | May 8 2024 20:21 utc | 44
I don’t blame you ! Me, i don’t listen to the leftists, cause i’m not a filthy commie !
I like Judge Nap’s show, but he irritates the hell out of me, cause he always talks over his guests.
I particularly like the ex-CIA roundup w Ray McGovern n Larry Johnson 👍
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:30 utc | 47
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:09 utc | 40
The genocide of the Jews, and others, at the hands of the Nazis is an enormous crime, and is recognized as such. Denial of crimes, a constant in human history, is shameful and deeply harmful with long-term negative consequences.
The Holocaust, the genocide of the Jews by the Nazis, needs to be viewed in perspective which sets it in its right place in a very long line of enormous crimes committed throughout history to this day.
Attaching unique status to the Holocaust serves no good purpose, and many bad purposes. It is high time for the Holocaust to be treated as a serious lesson and for its abuse to end.
Posted by: JB | May 8 2024 20:31 utc | 48
@ Posted by: JB | May 8 2024 20:31 utc | 48
The Jews got genocided during WW2 ? I thought it was just a Holocaust. I imagine their numbers must’ve went down drastically !
Yes, I mostly agree with your post.
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:39 utc | 49
As of August 2023, at least eight countries have conducted 2,056 nuclear tests since 1945.
We're still here.
Posted by: Robert E.Smith | May 8 2024 20:42 utc | 50
Posted by: ryanggg | May 8 2024 18:35 utc | 19
Just effing stop. I've known people with their camp numbers tattooed on their arm.
You're not helping the cause.
Posted by: JAB | May 8 2024 20:44 utc | 51
I heard a rumour…
that a lot of the people that died in the Holocaust also voted for Biden in 2020.
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:44 utc | 52
My Mum’s father died in WW2 when our Canadian govt shipped him off to fight the Nazis. He was like 20. Didn’t get a tattoo though, nor any specially designated status.
Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2024 20:49 utc | 53
Romanian is my native language, and I have spent some years studying Latin.
Romanian is the closest living language to Latin. It is even inflected, like Latin.
By reputation the Romanian spoken in Moldova is considered the best version of Romanian. Kind of how Dante deemed the Florentine dialect as the best Italian dialect.
Posted by: JAB | May 8 2024 20:52 utc | 54
I don't blame
You.
Because
I am the same
Of my spirit.
My Self
My Blood.
Pure.
My Live pure.
Ask you
But, you, dear, have been wrong: moldavian language is romanian language.
Posted by: shita | May 8 2024 20:52 utc | 55
For those weary of the Zionist genocide in Palestine, this powerful protest hit by rap artist Macklemore will bring you up. Peace. Free Palestine!
https://youtu.be/fgDQyFeBBIo?si=LUBA5Aoa07JzP9bT
Posted by: Slim | May 8 2024 20:54 utc | 56
https://youtu.be/fgDQyFeBBIo?si=LUBA5Aoa07JzP9bT
Posted by: Slim | May 8 2024 20:54 utc | 56
Oh, well hell, if we're gettin' down....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvXPmp1FO24
Posted by: McAgnew | May 8 2024 20:59 utc | 57
Posted by: ryanggg | May 8 2024 18:35 utc | 19
Just effing stop. I've known people with their camp numbers tattooed on their arm.
Genius comment!!
Tattoo = holocaust.
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Next best inanity = the 88 year old lady who parades around the White House saying she was a "Holocaust survivor" who lived in Hamburg during the firebombing.
The key word is "survivor."
Allies -- US and British -- bombed Hamburg about 230 times. Reduced it to rubble -- someone calculated about 52million tons of rubble.
Over 5600 German citizens did NOT survive.
Nobody remembers them.
For many of them, their bodies or what remained of them is part of that rubble, just like an unknown number of Palestinians.
If that virtue-signaling holocaust survivor had an ounce of humanity in her, she would spend her life abjectly apologizing for all those dead Germans.
Posted by: ChasMark | May 8 2024 21:06 utc | 58
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 8 2024 18:05 utc | 16
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Great share. I always learn something when I listen to Shahid Bolson. The way he thinks refreshes me.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 8 2024 21:19 utc | 59
I've changed my mind about Piers Morgan.
I think he's a closet Hamas supporter.
Nothing else logically explains the willingness to set himself up as a punching bag live on air for his pro-palestinian guests and get humiliated every time.
And then there's his rabid anti semitic attack on this poor izzraeli spokesorganism:
https://youtu.be/iFhRj5vu2zk?si=8JK8GQq1HhQtnqEq
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 8 2024 21:27 utc | 60
Historical & esoteric view
"The Holocaust is used by Israel, even unconsciously, to justify the oppression of the Palestinians in a way which is heartless and has profound danger for the world as a whole. p. 42
"The early Israelis taught the Palestinians about terrorism. Israel was formed by terrorism. There were a number of gangs, like the Stern gang and the Irgun Zeva’i Le’umi. They fought as terrorists against the British and the Palestinians, and ‘won’ the area we know as Israel. They fought and wrestled for that land just as the Palestinian people are fighting to hold onto the little bit of land that they could call home. It is so unfair, and it has the weight of the American government and the strength of the American dollar and army behind it. There will never be peace in the world while that situation pertains.
...
"The war in Iraq is part of a wider war in the Middle East between two opposing forces, the forces of light and the forces of darkness, or evil.... There are three such points of deep evil in the present situation. One is in this country, America, centered in the Pentagon; one is in Israel; and one is in Eastern Europe. These three points make a triangle which potentizes all the energy which is sent through them. This is the same energy — although luckily at a lower potency — as drove Hitler, Mussolini, and the groups around them, and the warmongers in Japan, from 1939 to 1945. It is the energy of the forces of evil on this planet. It is not less than that. The Masters have said it will take all the strength and awareness of humanity, plus that of Hierarchy itself, to contain. [p.44]
"One of the occult happenings of great importance for us to be aware of is that a large number of the German forces — army, SS troops, a few majors, lieutenant generals — have reincarnated in Israel, and many of them are behind the events which are taking place in Palestine today. Sharon is an old terrorist from the early days of Israel, and there are a number like him, about his age, who were terrorists then. They fought and terrorized to make the state of Israel.
"The Palestinians have nothing else, no other means, because they are not allowed by the Israelis to have an army, any weapons besides their home-made guns, and what they can smuggle in from Egypt. It is a very unfair situation and supported to the hilt by the present US administration. p. 45
Benjamin Creme in WTFAH (2007)
https://share-ecart.com/the-world-teacher-for-all-humanity-pdf/
Posted by: Toby C | May 8 2024 21:42 utc | 61
I've changed my mind about Piers Morgan.
I think he's a closet Hamas supporter.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 8 2024 21:27 utc | 60
He should have the "courage" exhibited by BeeBee the Nutty Yahoo, long a pre-eminent kHAmaAAAAZsss supporter, and come out of the closet.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 8 2024 22:01 utc | 62
meanwhile back at the genocide ranch.....
See the video at the link, too. I have a feeling we may see this scene more and more throughout Europe
https://twitter.com/iara_modarelli/status/1788257439436919023
I’m at the University of Barcelona, which has passed a motion to officially cut ties with Israel and it’s packed with students and citizens demanding an end to the brutal genocide and occupation of Palestine ✊🏼🇵🇸
Incredible scenes!
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 8 2024 22:04 utc | 63
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 8 2024 22:04 utc | 63;
I get a "That page doesn't exist" on your twitter link. I've been seeing that all day on about 1/3 of the tweets that people have linked to. Elon is very busy deleting stuff today.
Posted by: teri | May 8 2024 22:14 utc | 64
Defeating Hamas is not possible......its an insurgency.....completely supported by the people.......
The IDF and Bibi are totally delusional to the maximum..................the IRA fought the Brits from 1916 to 1998 and were never defeated.
That war ended with the Good Friday Agreement between Bertie Ahern and Tony Blair and IRA Army Council....1998, only a peace process will succeed, not the wanton slaughter of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank.
Hamas will never be defeated in the field. Its time for the return of Palestinian farmlands, orchards, pastures and vineyards stolen in 1948, 1953, 1967 and 1973 and for the creation of an independent Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank, Galilee and Judea............
Posted by: Tobias Cole | May 8 2024 22:57 utc | 65
Arch Bungle | May 8 2024 21:27 utc | 60
Yeah arch I saw that too and thought wow this guy just rounded him up in a few sentences . But I guess the winds blow that way and getting a zionist to incriminate themselves with their own arrogant words isn't that hard, the hard part is making them admit it..
This from fox news but there's a new law proposed to jail university protestors for 6 months. Omg this is the reaction to anti Zionism, not even anti banker occupy got this level of rage from the AIPAC couch stuffers.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/college-anti-israel-agitators-sent-gaza-new-house-gop-bill
Rep randy Webber "Israel has the right to do whatever they want to do,” sponsors the bill. Strange for a man listed as a baptist. But I guess whe AIPAC is listed in his top 3 donors you get that kind of rabid attack dog loyalty.
Posted by: Hankster | May 8 2024 22:57 utc | 66
This looks important:
US President Joe Biden has vowed to halt the supply of any “offensive” weapons that Israel could use in a major military operation in the southern Gaza city of Rafah.
https://www.rt.com/news/597256-biden-israel-rafah-weapons/
ABC Nightly News' broadcast tonight (Wednesday) made it look like Biden doesn't want to be blamed for bombing Rafah, with discussion of how much destruction a 2,000-pound bomb produces. Could it be an open dispute has finally erupted between the best of friends? Has Netanyahu pushed the envelope too far? That wouldn't compute with a prior understanding I held of manaical hegemonic solidarity. I may need to recompute.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 8 2024 23:03 utc | 67
AJ+
@ajplus
After Israel’s takeover of the Rafah crossing, patients and medical staff are fleeing some of Gaza's last remaining hospitals for fear of airstrikes.
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1788326811027612001
Posted by: Menz | May 8 2024 23:03 utc | 68
🍉 Siyaa 🍉
@SiyaaLive
They’re not packing up gifts.
They’re shrouding dead Palestinians babies because the Zionists told them to shut down the hospital and leave, which resulted in the killings of dozens of newborn babies in incubators.
https://twitter.com/SiyaaLive/status/1788298726861103118
Posted by: Menz | May 8 2024 23:04 utc | 69
The Glia Project
@Glia_Intl
Bridget, a midwife from California, is inside Rafah's last remaining maternity hospital. She's witnessing the effects of the brutal attack on Rafah, the Israeli occupation, and ongoing genocide against birthing people, newborns and children #AllEyesOnRafah
https://twitter.com/Glia_Intl/status/1788091697886306704
Posted by: Menz | May 8 2024 23:05 utc | 70
Israel has begun raining down white phosphorus in Rafah
apparently they cannot wait for the children to starve to death
Posted by: ld | May 8 2024 23:05 utc | 71
Aaron Maté
@aaronjmate
Yes, right after a Biden official quietly admitted that Israel already has all the US weaponry it needs to invade Rafah: https://x.com/aaronjmate/sta
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1788337379914256803
Posted by: Menz | May 8 2024 23:06 utc | 72
What about the Poles, Russians, Gypsies? Nothing? [on Holocaust]
These parading imbeciles are disgusting.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 8 2024 17:36 utc | 13
There is more than one class of victims that got full indication. Nazis were exterminating psychiatric patients. Now, quite a few of those that SHOULD be psychiatric patients represent us in Congress. What a success for hithero stigmatized minority!
Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 8 2024 23:07 utc | 73
https://twitter.com/i/status/1788271861136261409
https://twitter.com/i/status/1787768488053936587
see what phosphorus does to a child
Posted by: ld | May 8 2024 23:15 utc | 74
teri | May 8 2024 22:14 utc | 64
I click the link opens x just fine to see the post . I have an account set to private just to access/see sources.
Posted by: Hankster | May 8 2024 23:15 utc | 75
Fox News now has a story up about a Biden plan to transfer Gazan’s to the US.
So the American average Joe is now expected to pay for and deal with Israel’s mess.
Posted by: Archetypex | May 8 2024 23:26 utc | 76
13 and 73 - Over 20 million Russians, Poles, Serbs and Greeks were murdered by the Nazis..........never mentioned by MSM.....never........
Posted by: Tobias Cole | May 8 2024 23:27 utc | 77
Pretty sure everyone seen and heard this so apologise for the info. Here's the mp of Knesset threatening to blow up 10 houses if usa withhold precision bombs ie commit bigger war crimes. Then a journalist asks about that to the white house Rep getting a smirking weasel reply
https://t.me/warfareanalysis/38636?single
Posted by: Hankster | May 8 2024 23:31 utc | 78
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 8 2024 22:04 utc | 63;
"I get a "That page doesn't exist" on your twitter link."
Do you use Yandex as your browser? I was able to open the links, in fact all links, without any problem. https://yandex.com/
Posted by: Willow | May 8 2024 23:31 utc | 79
I had a relative that died in one of those death camps during WW2. He got drunk and fell out of the tower.
Posted by: Leroy | May 8 2024 23:33 utc | 80
Biden says he will stop sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel if they launch major invasion of Rafah
35 minutes ago
Kevin Liptak
NBC News
Biden halts arms shipment to Israel over military offensive in Rafah
10 minutes ago
Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 8 2024 23:37 utc | 82
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 8 2024 22:04 utc | 63
Your twitter link shows nothing. Probably removed.
Posted by: JAB | May 8 2024 23:40 utc | 83
Posted by: Tobias Cole | May 8 2024 22:57 utc | 65
Hamas is an excuse for ethnic cleansing. The last thing Bibi wants to do is "defeat Hamas."
Posted by: JAB | May 8 2024 23:41 utc | 84
I have never been antisemitic until after October 7. I watch elected officials carry water for a terror nation and intentionally punish protesters even though it is one of the guarantees of the first amendment. Those enacting laws against the rights of Americans are terrorists. Domestic terrorists. As a veteran, we swore an oath to protect this country from "enemies both foreign and domestic". Read the comments on any times of israel article and you will quickly realize that the Austrian guy was trying to save the world. They are diseased rats.
Posted by: Che | May 9 2024 0:01 utc | 85
The Holocaust. I don’t believe it. Let the Jews prove it.
Posted by: Boxwoodtree1 | May 9 2024 0:04 utc | 86
@ Posted by: Boxwoodtree1 | May 9 2024 0:04 utc | 86
The shoes ! The pile of shoes ! Count them and divide by two !
Posted by: Featherless | May 9 2024 0:10 utc | 87
This little planted story, all over W-MSM, about the Biden Admin withholding a few bombs is simply electioneering .... to placate the Arabs in Missouri and the younger Dem demographic ... smoke and mirrors ...
Similar with building a platform in the Med to 'allegedly' ship humanitarian aid to Gazans ... and thousands of trucks lined up at Raffah crossing!!!
Wonder what it will be used for - Shipping in tanks, armored vehicles, building materials and concrete probably ... or shipping out the surviving starving masses from the Gazan Concentration Camp? Or both?
Israel, AIPAC, and the zillionaires control US Congress - Israel gets what it wants: period. And the USA is called a 'democracy' yet its dumb Citizenry oops lower case C more appropriate - citizenry - has little if any say in the matter.
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 9 2024 0:20 utc | 88
Lots of anti-semitic (anti-Jewish) posts on this thread.
Posted by: Siddhartha | May 9 2024 0:22 utc | 89
Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2024 18:59 utc | 23
"
All the people in Moldavia speak moldavian language: "rumano". Same language: all the people speak and live in rumano. And there are people who speak in russian very well.
The people in moldavia speak "romano" before the transition of the script: the moldavan language is romano. Moldova is romanian. Period
Posted by: shita | May 9 2024 0:25 utc | 90
@ michaelj72 | May 8 2024 22:04 utc | 63
The Catalans have their own recent memory of fascism - 'no paseran'
Time for a song at the bar:
Christy Moore - Viva la Quinta Brigada. Live at Barrowland Glasgow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbXO828Vio [5 mins]
Posted by: Don Firineach | May 9 2024 0:26 utc | 91
Furthermore, the measures will be applied to all shipping vessels and companies that deliver goods to Israel, regardless of their final destinations.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2024 17:57 utc | 15
Those Houthi sure have a great recipe for frog soup.
Posted by: Honzo | May 9 2024 0:44 utc | 92
This is how Authority speaks to the Moldovan people in the tv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PctCLqD1XMk
Any fucking gypsy Romanian understand her words because she speaks common language:
Moldovan = Romanaian
Posted by: shita | May 9 2024 0:57 utc | 93
Be humble because you are pissing out off your knowledge.
In any case, be safe!
Posted by: shita | May 9 2024 1:11 utc | 95
Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 8 2024 23:37 utc | 82
Omar Baddar عمر بدّار
@OmarBaddar
He said invading Rafah was a red line. Israel invaded Rafah anyway, bombing buildings, burning & crushing children to death.
Biden is now moving the goalpost by adding a completely subjective descriptor: “Major.”
Now Israel has a green light to destroy Rafah in slow-motion.
https://twitter.com/OmarBaddar/status/1788340071638171938
Posted by: Menz | May 9 2024 1:21 utc | 96
Bernie Sanders: 'This may be Biden’s Vietnam'
I wasn't doubting myself before but this definitely proves Sanders is an useless incorrigible idiot.
Over 80 and running for the senate again this year another 6 year term.
Meanwhile the Palestinians still have the legal right by the UN and international humanitarian law the Geneva conventions etc etc to use violence to fight back against the illegal occupiers, and those who supply arms to them... US, UK, Germany, France and Oil for the Zionist war machine from the Saudis (?)
How about someone supplies the Palestinians and the Houthis with nuclear arms?
That'd be fair and balanced surely.
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | May 9 2024 1:32 utc | 97
Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2024 17:57 utc | 15
Yes, I saw that on southfront recently. It really does represent a formidable range, especially when considering that the capability comes on the heels of what many were also deeming a genocide, this time against Yemenis (another one under imperial auspices).
As to production pacing, it's been getting clearer that countries on the "active defense" against the empire have been going flat out on missile production for a while now, and have good (and fresh) stockpiles to build on; and Ansarallah have already demonstrated superior concealment technique.
With imperial ordnance priced to please shareholders vs. < $50k drone decoys en masse, I give the advantage to the resistance.
Gonna be a hot Summer.
Posted by: robjira | May 9 2024 1:41 utc | 98
This is the "Best", so honest:
hit | May 8 2024 18:45 utc | 20--
Thanks for your albeit negative reply. Before I wrote my comment I looked into the entomological roots of both the Moldovan and Romanian languages and their national histories. They are both Romance Languages that are Indo-European languages stemming from Latin that are present in many European nations, with this map showing their distribution, which is somewhat odd. I'm sure there're some linguistical studies showing the distance between the various dialects that would be interesting reading. It's clear your agenda has nothing to do with either language but you feel the need to hide and erect a strawman. You should just come out and openly advocate for Moldova to become a NATO/EU slave state by submitting itself to Romanian control, which is Maia Sandu's quest.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2024 18:59 utc | 23
Posted by: shita | May 9 2024 1:42 utc | 99
Larry Johnson has a round up of genocide videos as part of his article :
WHY ISRAEL IS LOSING ON THE DIPLOMATIC FRONT
https://sonar21.com/why-israel-is-losing-on-the-diplomatic-front/
Posted by: Exile | May 9 2024 1:48 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
The world has changed and Israel fights like it is 1945 but it is not.
We live in a world where the truth gets half way round the world before a lie puts its pants on.
Posted by: phenon | May 8 2024 15:39 utc | 1