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May 5, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-130
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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So begins (in the US) eight days of Holocaust Remembrance. Posted by: librul | May 5 2024 13:57 utc | 1 Do you know what is happening? Posted by: librul | May 5 2024 13:58 utc | 3 Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) came to us all of a sudden as we were (busy in a discussion). He said: What do you discuss about? They (the Companions) said. We are discussing about the Last Hour. Thereupon he said: It will not come until you see ten signs before and (in this connection) he made a mention of the smoke, Dajjal, the beast, the rising of the sun from the west, the descent of Jesus son of Mary (Allah be pleased with him), the Gog and Magog, and land-slides in three places, one in the east, one in the west and one in Arabia at the end of which fire would burn forth from the Yemen, and would drive people to the place of their assembly. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 5 2024 14:03 utc | 4 That old Roman, Tacitus schools us: we hate where we’ve done an injury. Posted by: Ben Trovata | May 5 2024 14:03 utc | 5 So begins (in the US) eight days of Holocaust Remembrance. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 5 2024 14:04 utc | 6 Odd world, every thing is up for debate, Aztecs, did they or didn’t they, how many. Communist, did they or didn’t they, how many, Bolsheviks, did they or didn’t they, how many, Nazis no debate, everything is know down to the last six million…. totally fucked, are they really killing Palestinians or is it just more whiney face propaganda? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 5 2024 14:08 utc | 7 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-799885 Posted by: Eighthman | May 5 2024 14:20 utc | 8 on the radio earlier they played the violin refrain from schindlers list classic fm before oct played it 3 times a day now it is 5 or 6. Posted by: todd | May 5 2024 14:33 utc | 9 Two Palestine threads ago, I posted this. It’ll be new info for some of you, so it’s worth repeating. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 14:37 utc | 10 Al-Jazeera raided probably a lot more elsewhere Posted by: paxmark1 | May 5 2024 14:46 utc | 11 Odd world, every thing is up for debate… Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2024 14:49 utc | 12 On the topic of Pepe Escobar’s report of an F35 sent to Iran with a nuke/EMP device, I’d like to present to the bar the following facts: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 15:18 utc | 13 White kites of angelic love bearing witness to us creating a new, loving world. Thanks Refaat. 🙂 Posted by: titmouse | May 5 2024 15:21 utc | 14 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 15:18 utc Posted by: Mexicana | May 5 2024 15:35 utc | 15 Rumors circulating that Zionist Apartheid regime is going to initiate a minor operation in Rafah before accepting Hamas conditions on cease fire deal. Posted by: Framarz | May 5 2024 15:41 utc | 16 Organic, spontaneous protests I’m sure. 😉 Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 16:12 utc | 17 @ Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 15:18 utc | 12 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | May 5 2024 16:14 utc | 18 #15 another source Posted by: paxmark1 | May 5 2024 16:15 utc | 19 Tom Pfotzer@15:18 Posted by: aristodemos | May 5 2024 16:19 utc | 20 They know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Posted by: Mark2 | May 5 2024 16:24 utc | 21 Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 15:18 utc | 12 Posted by: john | May 5 2024 16:33 utc | 22
Why should a message be channeled to “minds of Asian and Western thought- and policy-leaders”?
You know nothing about how Shooting Stars like Pepe Escobar are built up. It would need a lengthy discussion about the true nature of “Alternative Media” which I don’t consider constructive at this point. Posted by: Framarz | May 5 2024 16:45 utc | 23 Al Jazeera tv the latest reporting crew to be kicked out of Israel, it would appear that the Zionists don’t want anyone reporting on the genocide of the Palestinian people, which for them it will allow all types of barbarities upon the civilians of Gaza in the coming invasion of Rafah where many oppressed Palestinians will be murdered. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 5 2024 16:45 utc | 24 THE UAE gets the jitters and stops US military jets from leaving to carry out sorties from their soil, the Iranian attack on Israel has sent shockwaves across the ME, they appear to fear an attack from Iran. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 5 2024 16:51 utc | 25 @Framarz | May 5 2024 16:45 utc Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 17:04 utc | 26 In these next several weeks running up to the general election in Britain, we can expect to hear a barrage of antisem tropes launched courtesy of Conservative Friends and Labour Friends and their Moss ad agency controllers against Monty Panesar, Craig Murray, Peter Ford, Chris Williamson, Diane Abbot, Jeremy Corbyn and others standing as Indeps or for the new WP. Posted by: petra | May 5 2024 17:05 utc | 27 @Posted by: john | May 5 2024 16:33 utc Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 17:10 utc | 28
I give Escobar credit for his talented work on presenting “Belt and Road Initiative” as a peaceful, prosperity bringing, progressive project to help developing countries. Posted by: Framarz | May 5 2024 17:24 utc | 29 PM Netanyahu said “Israel cannot accept” Hamas’ demand to end the Gaza war. Israel’s defense minister said Hamas is showing signs it doesn’t intend to close a deal with Israel, which means an offensive in Rafah will be launched “in the near future.” Posted by: Jonathan W | May 5 2024 17:33 utc | 30 May 5 Tass Posted by: ld | May 5 2024 17:33 utc | 31 Israeli organ-trafficking network busted in Turkiye Posted by: ld | May 5 2024 17:46 utc | 32 “Posted by: librul | May 5 2024 13:58 utc | 2” Posted by: lester | May 5 2024 17:53 utc | 33 Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 17:10 utc | 27 Posted by: john | May 5 2024 17:54 utc | 34 Jamal Anthony Bowman, representative of New York in the US Congress: Posted by: financial matters | May 5 2024 17:57 utc | 35 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 15:18 utc | 12 Posted by: badjoke | May 5 2024 18:00 utc | 36 @ Framarz | May 5 2024 17:24 utc, who said:
==== Framarz: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 18:09 utc | 37 Posted by: titmouse | May 5 2024 15:21 utc | 13 Posted by: tonyopmoc | May 5 2024 18:33 utc | 38 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 14:37 utc | 9 Posted by: Per/Norway | May 5 2024 18:38 utc | 39 As mentioned many times before, the US has no friends but enemies. Posted by: AI | May 5 2024 18:42 utc | 40 EU needs more warships in Red Sea to match Yemen’s power Posted by: Framarz | May 5 2024 18:48 utc | 41 Some say China and/or Russia is an imperialist power. On the other hand, if you see it against the background of WW2, they have not changed sides, but the US and the UK have. On the other hand, the US and the UK insist they have not changed sides while Russia and China have, which is why they are using Nazi powers as a sort of homeopathic cure: like cures like. Perhaps Israel, the new entity in the mix, has skewed the vision of the US and the UK. Further, some would say it has also spoiled Russia and China, which have now become imperialist powers themselves. And so on. Posted by: Jonathan W | May 5 2024 18:55 utc | 42 Posted by: Jonathan W | May 5 2024 18:55 utc | 41 Posted by: ld | May 5 2024 19:08 utc | 43 Anti-anti-semitism Posted by: Featherless | May 5 2024 19:08 utc | 44 Re: organ harvesting in war zones Posted by: Exile | May 5 2024 19:09 utc | 45 Israelis have been stealing the guts of all us subhumans with impunity FOR DECADES Posted by: ld | May 5 2024 19:27 utc | 46 This whole mess is now building rapidly toward a horrendous conclusion………….famine is now prevalent, the IDF having halted all food and water and medicine deliveries…… Posted by: Tobias Cole | May 5 2024 19:40 utc | 47 Posted by: Framarz | May 5 2024 18:48 utc | 40 Posted by: tonyopmoc | May 5 2024 19:45 utc | 48 Tom Pfotzer @ 12 Posted by: oldhippie | May 5 2024 19:49 utc | 49 Tom @ 9 Posted by: Suresh | May 5 2024 19:58 utc | 50 Recent interview: Posted by: Trubind1 | May 5 2024 20:09 utc | 51 A message was sent. A warning was issued. Escobar was the vehicle. Posted by: MrH | May 5 2024 20:15 utc | 52 If its man made, praying to it ain’t going to fix it, when it stops working, as most things do. Posted by: tonyopmoc | May 5 2024 20:19 utc | 53 @29 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 5 2024 20:59 utc | 54 So now , for some of you, good ‘ole Pepe was delivering a “message”. Thats a very convenient cope mechanism to avoid stating that you were duped. However, whats the most logical answer ? Pepe either ” jumped the shark” or he was fed some dis-info, its pretty simple and no outlandish theories are needed. Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 21:03 utc | 55 White kites of angelic love bearing witness to us creating a new, loving world. Thanks Refaat. 🙂 Posted by: sunof27 | May 5 2024 21:09 utc | 56 RE: Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 21:03 utc | 55 Posted by: Trubind1 | May 5 2024 21:29 utc | 57 The American Empire is preparing a massive attack on Yemen including both air and land assault. Posted by: ak74 | May 5 2024 22:25 utc | 59 tonyopmoc | May 5 2024 18:33 utc | 37 Posted by: Cynic | May 5 2024 22:39 utc | 60 @Suresh | May 5 2024 19:58 utc, who said, in reference to Pepe Escobar’s Israel->F35->Nuke->Iran story: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 22:42 utc | 61 Tobias Cole | May 5 2024 19:40 utc | 46 Posted by: Cynic | May 5 2024 22:47 utc | 62 The negotiations seem to be at a ‘make or break’ point. (Or already past it?) Posted by: smuks | May 5 2024 23:01 utc | 63 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 22:42 utc | 61 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 5 2024 23:22 utc | 64 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 22:42 utc | 61 Posted by: snake | May 6 2024 0:00 utc | 65 IDF is kicking Palestainian azz…heheheh Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 6 2024 0:07 utc | 66 RE: “I wonder what role the demise of the USSR as a counterbalance played too.” Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 0:22 utc | 67 Can anyone explain the logic of waiting for israel to attack Rafah ? Posted by: Mark2 | May 6 2024 1:36 utc | 68 RE: Can anyone explain the logic of waiting for israel to attack Rafah ? Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 1:47 utc | 69 paxmark1 18 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2024 1:56 utc | 70 There’s rumours the US have halted arms supply to the Zionist regime. Posted by: Suresh | May 6 2024 2:03 utc | 71 RE: Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2024 1:56 utc | 70 Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 2:10 utc | 72 @ Tom Pfotzer | May 5 2024 22:42 utc | 61 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | May 6 2024 2:15 utc | 73 Reuters is reporting Posted by: psychohistorian | May 6 2024 2:22 utc | 74 Surest 71 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2024 2:26 utc | 75 Trubind1 72 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2024 2:34 utc | 76 RE: “if Americans take their country back from the money mafia they can engage in mutually beneficial exchange further down the road.” Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 2:50 utc | 77 There’s rumours the US have halted arms supply to the Zionist regime. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 6 2024 2:52 utc | 78 One ammo shipment . Wow so that’s 39 cargo planes a day not 40.not specified if it’s 2000 pound bombs or hand grenades. More than likely the last of their javelins. The least useful weapon for Gaza with no armour to use on. Posted by: Hankster | May 6 2024 3:04 utc | 79 75 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2024 3:07 utc | 80 meanwhile back at the genocide ranch Posted by: michaelj72 | May 6 2024 3:11 utc | 81 Confirmation of Laith Moriff video I posted earlier, he declared many more months of war: Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 3:11 utc | 83 RE: “Always remember: The USA is run by the Zionist Lobby, nobody else.” Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 3:17 utc | 84 until the Moslem world/Arab streets really get it together, israel will likely not hurt too much economically from any ‘sanctions’, Posted by: michaelj72 | May 6 2024 3:26 utc | 85 Naturally USA & Israel want Marwan Barghouti detained indefinitely. Today’s MEE report has it that PLO officials also insist that his name be kept out of any potential prisoner swap deal.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-palestinian-authority-oppose-marwan-barghouti-release-negotiations Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 6 2024 3:41 utc | 86 Posted by: psychohistorian | May 6 2024 2:15 utc | 73 Posted by: snake | May 6 2024 3:49 utc | 87 Resistance opening front in West Bank? Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 3:50 utc | 88 The Turkish-flagged ship TURKON ISTANBUL, carrying 21,092 tons of cargo, departed on Sunday from the port of Iskenderun on its way to Haifa and is a short distance away from the port. This is only one of many ships being called out for continuance of trade to Israel. Posted by: Hankster | May 6 2024 3:59 utc | 89 Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 1:47 utc | 69 Posted by: JAB | May 6 2024 4:08 utc | 90 Hezbollah fired dozens of rockets into Israel’s northern Kiryat Shmona settlement on 5 May in response to the Israeli massacre which killed an entire family in south Lebanon that day. Posted by: ld | May 6 2024 4:12 utc | 91 RE: Posted by: Hankster | May 6 2024 3:59 utc | 89 Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 4:17 utc | 92 Jewrael’s forced shut-down of Al Jazeera’s Jewrael branch has had the predictable result of inspiring a blockbuster edition of A-J. Lots of lists of crimes against Jewrael’s imaginary enemies. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 6 2024 4:25 utc | 93 Added to #93. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 6 2024 4:49 utc | 94 RE: “It doesn’t look good; unfortunately the Palestinians are the ones who are paying the price for the current impasse.” Posted by: Trubind1 | May 6 2024 5:35 utc | 95 moving the Overton Window Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 6 2024 6:31 utc | 96 Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 21:03 utc | 55 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 6 2024 6:47 utc | 97 Thank you tonyopmoc. 🙂 In tits age I might be that level of maturity. And thank you sunof27, that was quite beautiful! 🙂 Posted by: titmouse | May 6 2024 7:07 utc | 98 We are witnesing a genocide in Gaza. A total defeat of Palestinians. Posted by: vargas | May 6 2024 7:12 utc | 99 Jewish American Businessman Ron Unz has published a detached analysis of the events in the Levant since 2.Oct and how they relate to the Campus anti-genocide movement: Posted by: Exile | May 6 2024 7:31 utc | 100 |
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