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May 4, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-127

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“Israel has a right to defend itself”
Israel does not have a right to call Genocide defense.

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 15:32 utc | 1

https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1786670070900441291
Hope it is true. Thanks for the college kids who protested, are protesting, and will protest the injustice of Israeli oppression of Palestinians. Free Palestine!
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BREAKING: HAMAS TO ACCEPT CEASEFIRE DEAL WITHIN HOURS
The Saudi news channel reports that Hamas will accept the Egypt’s proposal for a cease-fire and the release of hostages within hours.
Hamas said it has received a promise from the U.S. for a cease-fire and full Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, in the third phase of the deal, and a promise that Israeli forces will not continue fighting after the release of the hostages.

Posted by: KitaySupporter | May 4 2024 15:32 utc | 2

Posted by: KitaySupporter | May 4 2024 15:32 utc | 2
They get a promise from USA….like Russia from Merkel et al.
Is China behind the stage?

Posted by: Roberto | May 4 2024 15:38 utc | 3

Here is from an hour ago.

Hamas indicates it may agree to deal; Israeli official insists truce won’t end the war
Gantz retorts to Israeli source: Avoid ‘hysterical, political’ statements; sources cited by media say terror group has US assurances 3rd phase of truce will lead to conflict’s end

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-indicates-it-may-agree-to-deal-israeli-official-insists-truce-wont-end-the-war/

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 15:40 utc | 4

@Posted by: Roberto | May 4 2024 15:38 utc | 3
Remember the Minsk Accords.
Eight years leading nowhere.

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 15:50 utc | 5

a must read article by Andrew Anglin -The Unz Review
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-chinese-are-not-stupid-in-fact-your-dad-is-stupid/
The USA is a form of government where the real leaders are hidden or merely unknown. Wiktionary..
Exposing the identities of the hidden and unknown entities might go a long way toward resolving the Israeli Palestinian Gaza conflict .
Unless an agreement is made with those unseen “real, but unidentified leaders” no agreement will ever be binding. IMO.

Posted by: snake | May 4 2024 16:02 utc | 6

Nietzsche argued that Western culture must face and transcend in the wake of the irreparable dissolution of its traditional foundations, moored largely in classical Greek philosophy and Christianity.

Posted by: phenon | May 4 2024 16:25 utc | 7

phenon@7…. philosophy and religion….a truce….for one day….please.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 4 2024 16:30 utc | 8

My point is Sean there has been a deliberate plan to destroy us.

Posted by: phenon | May 4 2024 16:37 utc | 9

re: ceasefire negotiations
CIA Director Burns is personally involved at this stage. He seems to be the only US official anybody (outside rules-based-order) takes seriously. Wonder what assurances he is authorized to deliver, and under what authority? The “not agreement capable” aspect of USA plays into this how? Will Trump or Congress refuse to play along? How does this work?
In respect to the “quality” of US officials, Sec State Blinken is back stateside and was quoted yesterday re: possible Rafah incursion: “we can’t support a major military operation going into Rafah because the damage it would do is beyond what’s acceptable,”
This infers the disaster of the past seven months was somehow “acceptable”.

Posted by: jayc | May 4 2024 16:55 utc | 10

One upbeat note; Those College students that get expelled can now go to Iran or Yemen and get a FREE education. Thinking of the incredible cost of US college educations and the debt overload that can never be paid off – this is actually one reason to get expelled. Iran could be fun in spite of negative publicity.
Even China has remarked that such students could get a good education (better) with them, at a much lower cost than in the US. Something which could even be a good idea for their future career prospects. This after hearing the threats made by Zionist inclined Senators and corporate owners. (Even Musk would approve, as he is welcome in Beijing anytime!)

Posted by: Stonebird | May 4 2024 17:06 utc | 11

This infers the disaster of the past seven months was somehow “acceptable”.
Posted by: jayc | May 4 2024 16:55 utc | 10
Good point. Let’s call that Rafah-washing. Netanyahu is bargaining for immunity by otherwise threatening to go ahead with the Rafah invasion. Hemce, there will be no ICC indictment against him.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 17:15 utc | 12

Worth a second watch: How British MSM – BBC assisted the Zionist Lobby
to take control of Labour Party
The Labour Files – Episode 2 – The Crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DTMF0MSXng

Posted by: Framarz | May 4 2024 17:31 utc | 13

Posted by: KitaySupporter | May 4 2024 15:32 utc | 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ISRAEL PROMISES … BACKED -UP BY THE USA !!! And HAMAS WILL FALL FOR THIS???? REALLY?

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | May 4 2024 17:45 utc | 14

Northern Gaza now in a state of famine.
“The United Nations World Food Program (WFP) says there is a “full-blown famine” in the northern Gaza Strip following months of Israel’s genocidal war against the besieged Palestinian territory.
WFP Executive Director Cindy McCain raised the alarm in an interview with NBC and became the most prominent international official so far to declare that trapped civilians in the cut-off area had gone on the brink of famine.”
On Cindy McCain the widow of Senator John McCain, she has attended Israeli events lauding the Israeli people and attended an IDF fund raiser.
The UN has very little credibility left in my eyes.
https://www.passblue.com/2023/11/20/the-world-food-programs-boss-faces-backlash-for-attending-an-event-honoring-israel/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 4 2024 17:52 utc | 15

Barflies will want to read this “Delivering a ‘True Promise’: an insider account of Iran’s strikes on Israel:
The Cradle presents an exclusive insider‘s narrative provided by Iranian Member of Parliament Mahmoud Nabavian, a principalist who won the most votes in Tehran during the country’s March elections.”

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 17:55 utc | 16

Posted by: KitaySupporter | May 4 2024 15:32 utc | 2
Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 15:40 utc | 4
Hamas will announce through Palestinian media anything relevant related to the cease fire talks.
Everything else should be viewed with great caution. To repeat – there is A LOT of disinformation circulating about Hamas, in particular regarding the cease fire talks.
CIA Burns has been directly involved a long time in the hostage release process.
The pressure on Hamas is now extreme, coming from all directions most doing US bidding.
Here are two examples from today:
AFP “reported” that Hamas involved in robbery of the Bank Of Palestine with millions of dollars stolen.
Reuters rehashed the – Qatar may close down the Hamas office in Doha- story, which is worn out and was addressed when it first appeared by both Qatar and Hamas.

Posted by: JB | May 4 2024 17:56 utc | 17

The French and German authorities don’t want this man talking about Gaza in their countries, the EU’s two big hitters France and Germany are trying to shut down any conversation on the Zionists genocide in Gaza.
“British-Palestinian surgeon Ghassan Abu Sittah — a witness to Israel’s war crimes in the Gaza Strip — has been denied entry to France, where he was slated to address the Senate about Gaza.
The British-Palestinian doctor said Saturday he was denied access to France after he arrived at Charles De Gaulle airport north of Paris on Saturday.
Abu-Sittah said he was told that Germany had enforced a Schengen-wide ban on his entry to Europe.
German authorities had last month refused his entry to Berlin, where Abu-Sitta was scheduled to address a conference to which he was invited to speak about his work in Gaza hospitals.
Germany had put a visa ban on him for a year.
“They are preventing me from entering France. I am supposed to speak at the French senate today,” he wrote on X, formerly Twitter.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 4 2024 18:03 utc | 18

Do everything in your power to push jewish voices out of the “Pro Palestine” space.
Would the western world allow former German Nazis to take up the cause of jewish victims of the holocaust ?
Would former German Nazis ever be on the television debating the merits of Auschwitz becoming its own city state ?
Would ethnic Germans born in the USA or Canada be thrust into the newspapers or radio by the boat load in the 1930’s to talk endlessly about how can we help these jews stuck in Germany ?
Then why do you today give any moral authority to any jew who condones (insincere) isreal or feigns support for Palestinians ?
“By way of deception, thou shalt make war

Posted by: ryanggg | May 4 2024 18:05 utc | 19

Michael Kemper, a NYPD’s chief of transit, said protesters had weapons including knives and hammers as well as pamphlets with “Death to America!” written on them. “For those romanticizing the protests occurring on college campuses, ‘Death to America!’ is one sentiment that runs counter to what we believe in, what we stand for, and what many have fought for on behalf of this country,” Kemper said.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 18:11 utc | 20

Posted by: ryanggg | May 4 2024 18:05 utc | 19
Don’t be an idiot. Zionism is a mid-nineteenth century ideology born out of the same toxic mix of blood and soil nationalism that gave birth to the Nazis.
I know many many many Jews who would give their lives to defend Palestine.
On the other hand, you could be an Israeli plant to get everyone to believe that Judaism = Zionism. Either way. Just stop.

Posted by: JAB | May 4 2024 18:12 utc | 21

Yes JAB that is correct and Nietzsche who is a German philosopher of that time was fondly referred to both by Nazis and Zionists

Posted by: phenon | May 4 2024 18:24 utc | 22

Ref Northern Gaza famine
This is precisely where the truce kindly offers the Palestinians to return to their “homes”.
No one on this planet except a few eschatological maniacs take US official statements as anything normal.

Posted by: Minaa | May 4 2024 18:25 utc | 23

Labour has won the local elections in England today.
Here is an interesting documentary of how Labour/ Corbyn was brougth down by the Israel Lobby.
How the Israel lobby helped bring down Jeremy Corbyn
Watch my short film debunking the fabricated “Labour anti-Semitism crisis” | 22 mins. By Asa Winstanlay
https://youtu.be/34eN9vR81eU
You will learn a lot- but not enjoy it

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2024 18:26 utc | 24

@ karlof1 | May 4 2024 17:55 utc | 16 with the link to The Cradle article about Iran’s True Promise event….thanks
89% is a pretty good hit percentage given all the prepared defense that was in place.
I see China as performing the same sort of understated shock/awe if/when the time comes…..no genocide by China but a bitch slap heard round the world, I expect.
I am still comfortable with my speculation about the conclusion of this part of the shit show by August if not sooner…..Occupied Palestine is digging its own grave in a very small world with good memory.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 18:41 utc | 25

Remember the Minsk Accords.
Eight years leading nowhere.
Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 15:50 utc | 5
Not at all. Eight years leading to Russian victory in the inevitable hot war. Eight years of preparation, organization and training. Eight years of diplomacy and trade agreement and building the path to de-dollarization. Eight years of effectively neutralizing the fifth column. Eight years of establishing a reputation for straight dealing in the RoW.
Eight very, very valuable years to the RF and the anti-imperialists cause.
In Gaza, Hamas has to balance insisting on its entire program against the utter destruction of the population. There’s no way to tell how long the US and Europe will prop up the Zionist entity, but probably longer than the people of Gaza can live without food, shelter and medicine. This is a reasonable time to step back and regain some strength, while preserving the lives of Palestinians. Will the Zionists/Americans betray the deal? Of course. But that exposes them more, pushes more people who would just as soon keep out of it into supporting the Palestinians. Right now, regimes willing to cooperate with Israel are hanging on by their fingernails, and people are afraid of their own cities being treated like Gaza. Once the fighting stops, however, the political pressure to distance from the Zionist entity will amplify, and some of these complicit regimes don’t have long to live. How would it be if Iraq, looking at the new correlation of forces in the ME, decided that in the absence of a hot-war situation where the US is particularly trigger happy, they could do a Niger? What if the Saudi realignment with BRICS caused them to do the same? There are other fronts in this war besides the murder of Palestinians, and they don’t require that to continue unabated to move forward.

Posted by: Honzo | May 4 2024 18:45 utc | 26

Whether the calls to divest will be successful or not, at least they are a “thing” as soon as they appear in the Financial Times, which they just did:
“US universities resist calls to divest from Israel-linked companies
Officials cite barriers to meeting boycott movement’s demands despite precedents on other topics”

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 18:58 utc | 27

Andrew Anglin is a Nazi. Why are we entertaining the writings of a Nazi here? C’mon.

Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 4 2024 19:03 utc | 28

Barflies will want to read this “Delivering a ‘True Promise’: an insider account of Iran’s strikes on Israel:
Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 17:55 utc | 16
Thanks for this article. This confirms what I have thought but could not prove- that the attack was not merely a saturation attack, but was very efficient, employing means that the west were not familiar with or expecting. How much of that is technological and how much is tactical, I have no means to calculate, but if I have any understand of Iranian strategic thinking, a major portion was technological, as mere tactics alone can be adapted to readily.
While he does not provide evidence beyond his words, I think we can make some deductions: If Iran launched 127 drones from its territory, and as a result 15 of 17 missiles reached their targets, either all the airforces of NATO were unable to actually shoot down the drones and Israel’s air defense system can only shoot down 130 objects in the required time frame, or the US et all did shoot down most of the drones, Israel’s defensive missiles were not even temporarily depleted, and they still couldn’t shoot down the Iranian missiles. Either way, the west is in serious trouble.
As to whether the account is true- all the parts that refer to the previously known, regarding diplomacy, etc, are pretty well supported. The only real question is about the number and types of missiles launched/shot down. In that regard, I think the pattern of ‘disclosures’ in western sources, and the pattern in alternative sources, is informative. The west continually amplified the number of missiles launched and shot down, which I took to mean that some did indeed get through, because vast swarms of drones save face to some degree. In the meantime, sources in other parts of the world tended in the opposite direction- which seems to have depended in part on whether they were basing their stories on western sources originally, and then refining them downward as they got more locally sourced information. This is also possibly a propaganda push to amplify the impression of western weakness, but I really don’t think that needs to be amplified if even one of the possibly 500 objects launched (by some western calculations) hit its target due only to temporary saturation of the AD system, because Hezbollah, let alone Iran, has tens of thousands of rockets and missiles, and if they were all launched in rapid sequence, .02% hits would be enough to wreck the Zionist entity. And of course, even if that was the base rate, it would increase rapidly because of first, temporary depletion of AD missiles, allowing many, many more hits, some of them on AD systems, and then because the cumulative effect of this would rapidly permanently deplete AD ammunition and the systems themselves.
The only possible escalation from the west- nuclear war- might defeat Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas, but those launching it will not survive as nation states. Perhaps nobody will survive at all.
If we do survive the current period of madness, our first and most important on-going priority must be to keep eschatologists as far as possible from the means to bring about the end of the world. My tendency is to think that even now, they don’t have enough control to do it, but, sadly for my peace of mind, I can’t prove it.

Posted by: Honzo | May 4 2024 19:09 utc | 29

@crazytrain
Anglin isn’t a Nazi, that’s disinformation. he’s a satirist.

Posted by: Featherless | May 4 2024 19:10 utc | 30

SBUX stock has dropped about 17% this week, most of the drop the day ot released earnings. It greatly missed estimates both revenue and earnings. A brief mention of “overseas losses stemming from the current political climate” is drowned out in a wave pf guesses as to why sales are down.

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 19:14 utc | 31

“The Cradle presents an exclusive insider‘s narrative provided by Iranian Member of Parliament Mahmoud Nabavian, a principalist who won the most votes in Tehran during the country’s March elections.”
Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 17:55 utc | 16
That was indeed interesting.
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In other news, I see a lot of attempts to coerce Hamas into agreeing to what is being offered in Cairo, nothing yet that suggests they will actually take it.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 4 2024 19:23 utc | 32

Posted by: JB | May 4 2024 17:56 utc | 17
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Hasbarah propaganda. Checked!

Posted by: AI | May 4 2024 19:27 utc | 33

Middle East Eye reports:
Senior Hamas spokesperson Osama Hamdan told Al Jazeera that negotiations are ongoing, with Israel’s planned assault of Rafah being a “key element” of the talks.
“Until now, we are still talking about the main issue, which is the complete ceasefire and complete withdrawal from Gaza. We hope to find some good and positive answers today,” said Hamdan.
“Unfortunately, there was a clear statement from Netanyahu saying that regardless of what may happen, if there was a ceasefire or not, he will continue the attack [on Rafah].”
“We want clarity on what this statement means… our understanding is that any achievement for a ceasefire means that there will be no more attacks against Gaza and Rafah.”

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2024 19:34 utc | 34

The next divestment stage is not to divest from companies but from individuals and their kin.
Until it is personal, people won’t feel it. Corporations by design shield the “owners” from accountability and any losses in share price can be discounted at tax time by writing off a loss.
As always, I do not recommend violence of any sort. Shame however is a potent tool against people who behave in an anti-social manner.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2024 19:36 utc | 35

” Michael Kemper, a NYPD’s chief of transit, said protesters had weapons including knives and hammers as well as pamphlets with “Death to America!” written on them. “For those romanticizing the protests occurring on college campuses, ‘Death to America!’ is one sentiment that runs counter to what we believe in, what we stand for, and what many have fought for on behalf of this country,” Kemper said.
Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 18:11 utc | 20 ”
Even if these protests started organically they have now, most definitely, been co-opted and are being used for multiple nefarious purposes. Additionally, where is Antifa , the champions of anti-White hate, the erstwhile supporters of oppressed Brown people, the champions of Anarchy and Communism ? I’m sure everyone has noticed their obvious absence from the pro Palestinian side. Not to mention, where is BLM and their anti-White soldiers ? Arent the Jews ” White ” in their eyes ? Arent these ” White ” Jews slaughtering poor Brown people ?
Hopefully, everyone realizes the games being played.

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:39 utc | 36

” In other news, I see a lot of attempts to coerce Hamas into agreeing to what is being offered in Cairo, nothing yet that suggests they will actually take it.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 4 2024 19:23 utc | 32 ”
If they take any “deal” at this point they will be immediately suspect in my eyes. You dont take a “deal” when you have the enemy on the ropes, or is the enemy not on the ropes after all ?

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:42 utc | 37

” Not at all. Eight years leading to Russian victory in the inevitable hot war. Eight years of preparation, organization and training. Eight years of diplomacy and trade agreement and building the path to de-dollarization. Eight years of effectively neutralizing the fifth column. Eight years of establishing a reputation for straight dealing in the RoW.
Eight very, very valuable years to the RF and the anti-imperialists cause.
Posted by: Honzo | May 4 2024 18:45 utc | 26 ”
I dont think you’re putting Russia in a good light with this comment. If the result of 8 years of ” intense” planning was the , head scratching SMO , 2 years of slaughter and counting, and hundreds of billions of Russian money ” stolen “, among other things, then whats that say about this supposed planning ?

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:50 utc | 38

Josep Borrell: I see [that] the international system, that we were accustomed to after the Cold War, no longer exists. America has lost its status of a hegemon. And the post-1945 multilateral [world] order is losing ground.
https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/united-kingdom-speech-high-representativevice-president-josep-borrell-oxford-university-about-world_en

Posted by: Framarz | May 4 2024 19:51 utc | 39

As I understand it Hamas is expecting guarentees from the U.S.. So, it all comes down to Biden. Is Biden going to finally side with God and Humanity, or willl he continue to be the Devil’s escort? Will he remain Genocide Joe foreever? I bet his rosery is burning him everytime he touches it right now….

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | May 4 2024 19:53 utc | 40

” On the other hand, you could be an Israeli plant to get everyone to believe that Judaism = Zionism. Either way. Just stop.
Posted by: JAB | May 4 2024 18:12 utc | 21 ”
Riddle us this. Why is Israel called ” the Jewish state” ? Why is it supported by 95% or more Jews on this planet ?

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:56 utc | 41

Thanks for the replies related to The Cradle article. Recall Iran’s military announced it was satisfied and pleased with the results of its attack. Also we have the video evidence presented by Ted Postal is his report showing many more “leakers” than confessed to by the ZioWest. The “lame” attempt at retaliation–whether or not in included a nuke–and the cowed appearance of the Zionists over the last weeks of April also sends a message. Some will recall PavewayIV’s recent comment about the quite possible Egyptian response to a massive invasion of Rafah, which he certainly didn’t weave himself, and now Netanyahu’s announced offensive in the North, all tell us things about the Zionist’s political turmoil.
Elsewhere, there’s zero news about any deal being agreed, while there’s news that Netanyahu would see any long term ceasefire in Gaza as defeat. And lastly, “Renowned British-Palestinian surgeon denied entry into France” this item provides further proof of EU complicity in the Genocide.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 20:01 utc | 42

#Israel is in a weak position. The Palestinian resistance has the upper hand in the negotiation and can impose conditions, regardless of the Egyptian and the #US pressure.
@ejmalrai
I think this time he forgot to add couple of hashtags after his tweet: #YemenSanctions #TruePromise

Posted by: Framarz | May 4 2024 20:23 utc | 43

Elsewhere, there’s zero news about any deal being agreed, while there’s news that Netanyahu would see any long term ceasefire in Gaza as defeat. And lastly, “Renowned British-Palestinian surgeon denied entry into France” this item provides further proof of EU complicity in the Genocide.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 20:01 utc | 42
It is like watching some used car salesmen try to convince a customer that he really needs to buy this car at this price today.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 4 2024 20:23 utc | 44

Moonie @ all of the above.
The anti fascists are fascists.
And donald trump and biden are their leader.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 20:37 utc | 45

Posted by: KitaySupporter | May 4 2024 15:32 utc | 2
They get a promise from USA….like Russia from Merkel et al.
Is China behind the stage?
Posted by: Roberto | May 4 2024 15:38 utc | 3
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Of all The treaties and pacts between the Aborigines of the Western Hemisphere and the USofAs the longest observation of the conditions by the USofAs was 7 days.

Posted by: Victor G. | May 4 2024 20:41 utc | 46

Bemildred 44
Grown men weep when the see a Rover.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 20:46 utc | 47

I completely repudiate Nazism and fascism in general, having said that I was thinking about the Third Reich’s concept of Jüdische Physik, vs. Arische Physik, i.e. the scurrilously named ‘Jewish’ physics vs. the equally preposterously named Aryan physics. As we all know physics played an unquestionably highly significant, albeit horrendously violent, role towards the end of WWII. However what happens when that particular historical physics mutates into what has for some time been known as quantum physics, and the physical implications therein enfolded? Isn’t it possible that a new sort of fascist nihilism can surge forth, by the lights of some, must surge forth from such a physics, in the form of a solipsistic supremacism that holds that some minds are gifted with a sort of cosmic or metaphysical supremacy over other minds, and wherein those who parasitize off such views are not necessarily the often times Nobel Prize winning scientists per se, but the military echelon and oligarchs who have mixed IQ realism, with neo-eugenics, quantum physics and AI? Of course, I have in mind a certain small country that is particularly, perhaps one might even say notoriously, invested in all these subjects.

Posted by: Ludo | May 4 2024 20:50 utc | 48

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | May 4 2024 19:53 utc | 40
His name will just change from Genocide Joe to Biden the Butcher.
Go back to the invasion of Lebanon. Biden got up on the senate floor and called upon Israel to massacre the women and children of south Lebanon in order to ‘secure Israel’. If you think Biden is against this massacre I have got a bridge to sell you.

Posted by: badjoke | May 4 2024 21:17 utc | 49

@Featherless
Oh that’s rich, “Anglin isn’t a Nazi, that’s disinformation. he’s a satirist.”
Ok, well then he’s a very rich satirist, willing to spend a ton of money for his “performance art”.
NEO-NAZI LEADER MUST PAY MORE THAN $14 MILLION IN DAMAGES
Or maybe you’re the satirist, in which case I will say “ok, you got me!”
Please

Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 4 2024 21:18 utc | 50

@Moonie
Hey dude, why do you leave out links to hard polling statistics on this claim “Why is it supported by 95% or more Jews on this planet ?”
I’ll tell you why, cuz they don’t exist. This is a typical hasbara message point — to try to convince Jews from all over the world to come to Israel….and that is a stated goal of the project.
In the meanwhile, we await your proof of your assertion.

Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 4 2024 21:22 utc | 51

IMO, Pepe Escobar’s latest while global in scope concentrates on the Palestine situation, “The Russia–Iran–China search for a new global security order”, as he closes with this:
“Yet the key question remains: how will Russia–Iran–China (RIC), as BRICS leaders, SCO members, and simultaneously top three “existential threats” to the Hegemon, be able to start implementing a new global security architecture without staring down the genocidals.”
The obvious need to use force to enforce UNSCRs regarding Palestine has been a main point of emphasis for me over the last several months, rising from a mere muse into irrefutable logical language. The last week saw almost all MFA activity focused on communicating with the West Asian players. Here’s the official read-out of one such meeting:

On May 1, at the initiative of the Palestinian side, Special Presidential Representative for the Middle East and Africa and Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov had a telephone conversation with Azzam Ahmed, a member of the PLO Executive Committee and a member of the Fatah Central Committee.
During the conversation, Ahmed informed about his participation in the meeting of the delegations of Fatah and Hamas organized in Beijing. It was emphasised that this meeting was in line with the agreements reached at the intra-Palestinian consultations held in Moscow from February 29 to March 1, with an emphasis on the need to unite all Palestinian political forces as soon as possible within the framework of the PLO, the only legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. Of particular importance is the task of establishing a Palestinian sovereign State within the 1967 borders.
Taking into account the results of the intra-Palestinian meetings in Moscow and Beijing, it was agreed to continue targeted efforts to rally the Palestinian ranks in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip on the PLO’s political platform, including with the coordinated assistance of Russia and China. [My Emphasis]

As I wrote in my May 2 substack, as unlikely as it appears and regardless the great consternation held by Barflies over it, the Two-State Solution remains the only legally viable game in town the Global Majority agrees with, crucially including Russia and China. Ukraine has shown NATO to be an empty shirt and would be incapable of applying force to the Zionists even if it that was desired. That leaves it to Russia and China to do the enforcing. (Yes, Iran would like to join but IMO it’s best if it just continues to manage the resistance Arc.)
By now, some will have seen the great similarity between the Ukraine and Palestine conflicts–they’re both attritional. The difference being the internal politics of Zionist society being overwhelmingly in favor of Genocide whereas Ukrainians have no voice in policy at all since it’s decided by NATO via the fig leaf Ukie Rada. This difference makes the application of force somewhat more difficult aside from the fact that the Zionists have nukes. That Erdogan has finally–supposedly–ceased all exports to the Zionists (oil being the most important) applies more economic pressure but will take time to work. The Iraqi and Ansarallh portions of the Arc continue to lob missile and drone volleys into Zionist logistical centers, while Hezbollah continues to damage key Zionist assets and goads the Zionists to launch their offensive.
As Pepe notes, The Hybrid Third World War continues with major broadsides expected later this year from both Blocs. However, there’s far greater solidarity within the Global Majority than at any previous time, and that continues to grow as African states escalate their expulsion of Neocolonizers. And as Pepe reveals, there’s much happening that mostly isn’t being reported by any media.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 21:29 utc | 52

Thanks crazy train the bigots are out in force today. Sadly

Posted by: Susan | May 4 2024 21:30 utc | 53

Oh that’s rich, “Anglin isn’t a Nazi, that’s disinformation. he’s a satirist.”
Ok, well then he’s a very rich satirist, willing to spend a ton of money for his “performance art”.
NEO-NAZI LEADER MUST PAY MORE THAN $14 MILLION IN DAMAGES
Or maybe you’re the satirist, in which case I will say “ok, you got me!”
Please
Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 4 2024 21:18 utc | 50
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Sad thing is droogs & psyops like this are very useful in gaslighting the masses away from the horrible truth.
That we are in fact ruled by a corrupt, depraved and vampiric elite who feast of the world’s blood & treasure with s**t-eating grins.
Notice all these waffen-dween f**kers and Ali G Hadis and Malscam X grifters and Leon Trotsoyists. Never actually shot, bomb or wreck up any useful target.
Unlike say the Red Brigades or the Black Liberation Army who kidnaped or assassinated ranking government officials, spooks, military officers, policeman or big businessmen.

Posted by: Urban Fox | May 4 2024 21:34 utc | 54

@Crazytrain – LMAO SPLC eh ? Might as well be the ADL or AIPAC. SPLC opens their article with “ – the latest terror attack inspired by a global white nationalist movement inspired by the idea that “elites” in Western countries are working to “replace” white people with immigrants and other people of color.” What a trope eh ?
or maybe it’s a canard ? I dunno, but if it walks like a canard, n quacks like a canard…
Divide n rule, that’s another canard.

Posted by: Featherless | May 4 2024 21:36 utc | 55

phenon
<< Western culture >>
Is an oxymoron.
Steal
Kill
Destroy
All the above as the victim and moral hero

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | May 4 2024 21:41 utc | 56

@Crazytrain – I imagine you agree with the verdict and fine (how many BILLION dollars ?) against Alex Jones too ? For the crime of saying the wrong things ? That fine WAY exceeds any court payout for crimes like wrongful death, n truly grave torts. I guess wrong speech is just way way worse than those truly grievous (and consequential) crimes.

Posted by: Featherless | May 4 2024 21:41 utc | 57

This ceasefire offer by israel is a trap and heres how it works….
If Hamas refuses they get bad PR world wide reinforcing the fake narative that they are the perpitrators.
If Hamas agrees to this deal. Netinyahoo will bomb Rafa any way so he says. Or a dozen other ways that he can continue the Genicide mass murder.
I know this has been said already, but my one point is the…. ‘dammed if they do, dammed if they dont’aspect. Thats the reality. So how to deal with that ?

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 21:44 utc | 58

That 95% figure has an interesting history. It was put forward by Bari Weiss in her 2020 essay based on a sample of 128 respondents. A Jewish critique of the same is here:
https://jewishcurrents.org/are-95-of-jews-really-zionists

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 21:52 utc | 59

All I know is Iran met in Gambia with Egypt to discuss “deal” and I saw a recent interview where Hamas spokesperson stated there were still “issues”
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/05/04/724935/Iran-Egypt-Amir-Abdollahian-Sameh-Shoukry-OIC-Summit-Conference-Gambia-Banjul-relations-Gaza-Israel-war–
So, not seeing anything changed yet. Hamas Spokesman, even today, suggests a ceasefire & withdrawal from Gaza.
We know Israel will never agree to withdraw, even with Qatar, Egypt, US & Israel “guarantees”… Hamas states “not good enoug… Hamas knows their all snakes, maybe why Iran called in.
Frankly, Hamas should have asked Yemen Ansarallah to mediate & be a guarantor.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 4 2024 21:57 utc | 60

https://dailystormer.in/israeli-jews-whine-about-us-college-students-we-didnt-know-so-many-people-hated-israel/
Tell me if this is hate speech, and should be illegal, or satire highlighting important truth.

Posted by: Featherless | May 4 2024 21:58 utc | 61

Ludo
<< However what happens when that particular historical physics mutates into what has for some time been known as quantum physics, and the physical implications therein enfolded? Isn't it possible that a new sort of fascist nihilism can surge forth, by the lights of some, must surge forth from such a physics >>
Nazi racism was far from alone early 20th century – there were virulent forms of racist supremacism throughout the western world at that time (not on Russia or China though). Discussion of Africans and Asians as racially inferior was completely acceptable mainstream opinion. Eugenics was considered progressive (as it soon will again).
These racist supremacist ideas grew out of Darwin/Wallace’s biology of evolution and natural selection. That’s not to say that science is either evil or wrong – it is neither IMO; it’s just that digesting these ideas among the elites led to Nazi like interpretations.
Perhaps the current resurrection of Nazi ideology in the west – indeed – will dress itself in the pseudo garments of scientific enlightenment such as quantum physics, or cheap sci-fi B-movie diatribe thereof. An undeserved abuse of Heisenberg, Planck and Schroedinger just as the original Nazis abused Darwin and Wallace who were true gentlemen.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | May 4 2024 22:02 utc | 62

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 20:01 utc | 42
Some will recall PavewayIV’s recent comment about the quite possible Egyptian response to a massive invasion of Rafah, which he certainly didn’t weave himself, and now Netanyahu’s announced offensive in the North, all tell us things about the Zionist’s political turmoil.
Thank you for the reminder about Paveway IV’s remarks re Egyp. At the time I read it I thought it might be very sigificant0-I still do.
Thanks again.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 4 2024 22:02 utc | 63

Maybe Hamas and the resistence should send a whole bunch of negotiators to tele aviv.
From all directions. After giving a precice reason as i stated in my last comment.
Thus taking contol of the situation and narative. Showing reality in contrast to the madness. And exposing the wests trickery and weakness.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 22:07 utc | 64

Netinyahoo says Rafa next.
Well i say self defence can be pre-emptive, and is prefrable.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 22:11 utc | 65

Ceasefire or no ceasefire? What is the difference? 3 days ago CBS reported:
Netanyahu says Rafah offensive will happen with or without cease-fire and hostage release deal

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 22:15 utc | 66

RE: Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 20:01 utc | 42
“PavewayIV’s recent comment about the quite possible Egyptian response to a massive invasion of Rafah, “
If we all were to be serious about this, outside of killing a bunch of Palestinians & driving them into the sea,(which they can do with air bombings) what’s the point of a Rafah “ground invasion” if not to secure the Philadelphia Corridor for themselves. Israel knows that’s the only way to completely vault Gaza.
The Philadelphia Corridor gives Gazans a border nation, they’ve had tunnels and gone in and out of there for years. The PIJ are the Muslim Brotherhood, all those tunnels were built via Egypt & Lebanon. They’ve had black market doings through that corridor for decades.
When Netanyahu says “Rafah” … he really means Philadelphia Corridor. He’s dead set (Netanyahu) on the invasion. Egypt will not stand down.
Even if Nuttyahoo doesn’t go after Corridor, but bombs away… the Yemen, Bahrain, Hamas, Lebanon, Iraqi will coordinate an attack, of some measure, and it will sting badly. Just my opinion. Egypt may be gathering allies (Turkey & Iran)…

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 4 2024 22:22 utc | 67

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 17:55 utc | 16
Thanks for this perspective from the Cradle.
As one fond of reading between the lines, it’s obvious to me that Iran will launch a very heavy strike on Jewrael if the jews proceed with their scheme to attack Rafah.
It’s also obvious that US illegal bases in the region will also be included in the attack on Jewrael for the simple reason that US will not have any ‘spare’ weapons for Jewrael’s self-defense.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 4 2024 22:27 utc | 68

Israel has acknowledged that a government ministry drafted a report proposing the forced, permanent transfer of Gaza’s population to Egypt, fuelling fears of a further catastrophic dispossession of Palestinians.
The 10-page document by Israel’s Ministry of Intelligence, dated the 13th of October, recommends the transfer of Gaza’s population of more than 2 million people to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, as the preferred option for securing Israel’s security at the end of the assault on Gaza.

Can you call bullshit on this?
That was the purpose all along behind the Israeli LIHOP plan as you know.

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 22:36 utc | 69

Netanyahu chose Hamas. Netanyahu trained Islamic State in Jordan.Netanyahu supplied Israeli citizen Shimon Elliot to be Baghdadi, friend of John McCain and Brett McGurk.
So it follows that Netanyahu thinks he has quite a lot of dirt on Hamas and he can strike a deal in which he gets his cake, ( genocide ) Andrea’s it ( Israeli hostages back ).
That is the evil piece of mafia that Likud is. They think they can blame the Rafah genocide on Hamas.
I go back to my point about Qisas, equality in murder. Likud , Biden and Sunak slaver at genocide, while Israeli citizens fears the blowback.
They like the genocide but they fear the reprisals. Rich people think they can buy their way out of reprisals.
Possibly true but not out of God’s reprisals in hell fire.
The Palestinians will hold firm, trusting in God. The revenge will come inshallah and completely destroy the Khazar con trick of Jewish rights to Palestine.
The Khazar Nazis who murdered the Jews in the Holocaust are planning the destruction of the Jews in Palestine.
Netanyahu is a con man alright, but even Prigozhin got caught.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 22:38 utc | 70

Andrea? Get his cake and eat it..

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 22:40 utc | 71

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:50 utc | 38Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:50 utc | 38
The Royal United Services Institute has just released a study on Russia’s “head scratching SMO”. Don’t feel bad not “getting it”, better intellects have failed miserably too or were very slow to catch on.
Back on thread, @37, you allude to Hamas being “on the ropes” for taking a deal. Everyone one knows the Zionists regime only offers a truce/ceasefire when it’s “on the ropes”, otherwise it prefers genocide. Where’s the promise to not offer any deal other than to “destroy” Hamas?
@36, the only game the barflies here understand is the one you playing.
Posted by: Suresh |

Posted by: Suresh | May 4 2024 22:42 utc | 72

Well, Ye Olde Shitstaine Ceasefire appears (from my seats way in the upper deck) to be on the rocks.
What the $%&# is wrong with these people? The way to negotiate as a third party is to facilitate both sides coming to an agreement, not dictating terms to one side. We see this same exact shit from the FUKUS countries with Ukraine. These are NOT neutral third parties. When the fuck is Hamas going to wake up and see that any agreement negotiated with the FUKUS involved is going to be shit?
It looks like they lied to Hamas, by telling them that Isreal would accept terms that they expressly denied. SO sick of the FUKUS shitting all over the planet.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-rafah-hamas-says-it-will-not-agree-to-truce-that-does-not-end-war-in-gaza-5590432

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 4 2024 22:43 utc | 73

This is report is a week old denying the accusations of Biden.
But when people see pro-Palestinian protesters arrested at the same time as President Joe Biden and others are warning about a surge of antisemitism on college campuses, they apply the same tired framework — supposedly antisemitic pro-Palestine activists pitted against Jewish pro-Israel activists — to Yale. As a fourth-year Yale student, I find this characterization to be deeply frustrating, as it could not be further from the truth. At every turn, I have encountered a community of activists and organizers that is eager to listen, ready to learn and committed to including Jewish voices and perspectives.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/27/opinions/yale-student-palestinian-protests-berlin/index.html

Posted by: phenon | May 4 2024 22:45 utc | 74

” Frankly, Hamas should have asked Yemen Ansarallah to mediate & be a guarantor.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 4 2024 21:57 utc | 60 ”
Why not Russia as its ” friendly” with Israel, the Palestinians, and Iran among others ?

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 22:48 utc | 75

Speaking of Yemen. They’re gearing up for an air AND ground campaign.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/exclusive-yemen-braces-for-impending-massive-us-led-air-and-ground-campaign/287342/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2024 23:06 utc | 76

Speaking of Yemen. They’re gearing up for an air AND ground campaign.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/exclusive-yemen-braces-for-impending-massive-us-led-air-and-ground-campaign/287342/
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2024 23:06 utc | 76
——————
Oh goodie, because no-one has ever FAFO in Yemen /sarc.
If Biden is senile enough to boogaloo like it’s the year 2000. Then the US forces will be in a quagmire that’ll make Afghanistan look like holiday excursion in the alps.
It’ll also put to bed any doomer nonsense about NATO jumping into Ukraine. When they don’t have armies fit to take on the Houthis, Iran or Hezbollah.

Posted by: Urban Fox | May 4 2024 23:17 utc | 77

@Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 22:36 utc | 69
Did I make that clear enough?
There was a supposed leak from Israeli intelligence, but it wasn’t a leak it was a limited hangout.
The Israeli wanted it believed that they didn’t come up with the idea of expelling all the Palestinians
until ***after*** bloody October 7th; whereas, the whole reason behind the LIHOP plan was to expel the Palestinians.
The Israelis had been planning for October 7th for months.
—-
Where was the CIA in this?
Were they kept in the dark about all the intelligence Israel had about Hamas’ preparations for October 7th.
No way!
Where was MI6?
There appears to be a lock down about what the CIA and MI6 knew and when did they know it.
The Israelis had captured Hamas’ Oct 7th plan a year before. It was shared up and down the Israeli
leadership – political, military and intelligence leadership. But it was not shared with the CIA or MI6?
There is almost nothing, no discussion, about the CIA and MI6.

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 23:21 utc | 78

Thanks for the further replies. I’ve combined the two Cradle pieces into one that includes further commentary and will be easier for readers to access, “Two Cradles: Escobar & Iranian MP Interview”.
There’s no doubt the Zionist goal is to fulfill its Project–Genocide of all Palestinians so their land can be totally stolen–and the Zionists won’t cease until forced to do so either through attritional siege or via direct outside intervention. IMO, the Zionists long ago ceased being Jewish and became another Imperialist Tribe of the sort we’ve seen many times in history. What makes Zionists unique is their shielding themselves by calling themselves Jews who experienced a singular distinctive wrong–the Holocaust–despite Jewish people being a small fraction–less than 25%–of the total killed in the German Plan Ost Project the Zionists now emulate. As I’ve said for years, the Zionists are the world’s #1 Anti-Semites since the people they’re destroying are genuine Semites not a collection of Europeans who never lived in West Asia before.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 23:24 utc | 79

I hope/pray/trust Hamas will only “fall for it” in the same way they “fell” for the zionist LIHOP.
All of what Honzo said in ( May 4 2024 18:45 utc | 26 ). 100% agreement from me.
Or/and —as seems to be happening— letting “Israel” and the US get in each other’s way and making both of them look as dishonest as they are.
“Israel”‘s stated policy of “ceasefire but we’ll keep fighting” is being openly mocked in relatively establishment British venues (in two recent episodes of the BBC “Have I Got News For You”). Don’t read too much into me knowing that.
(Entirely separately: raised an eyebrow at episode host Martin Clunes “joking” (or possibly not so much, although he loves deadpan he usually can’t keep an entirely straight face, which is part of his charm, but he sort of did on this occasion so who knows) that it was “no wonder the Russians hate us” (and of course that would in no way be based on the silliness of a particular Whitehall Tik-Tok video snippet)).
I can only imagine the scorn that would have be piled onto Israel if “Mock The Week” hadn’t been cancelled.
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Phenon wrote ( May 4 2024 18:24 utc | 22 ):

Yes JAB that is correct and Nietzsche who is a German philosopher of that time was fondly referred to both by Nazis and Zionists

And neither the nazis nor the zionists understood what he wrote or what his ideal of an superior human being meant.
One can say whatever for or against the philosophy but the idea (and ideal) was not to argue in favor of some self-important asshole(s) pushing the rest of humanity down.
I would say the point that was attempted to be made was the entirely opposite: people willing to listen to whatever sense of righteousness and justice they had in their hearts and brains without fear.
(But then I did eventually give up on philosophy at university (and university as a whole, although I always kind of miss it)).
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Moonie ( May 4 2024 19:56 utc | 41):
Because the zionists try to hide behind the jews, judaism, the WWII nazi holocaust (who some claim they abetted and that might well be true), and anything else (such as the most unchristian christians of the US) they find opportune.
Part of the task, should you choose to accept it, is to guide any stray ordinary jews (and “christians” for that matter) back to their humanity that the zionists appropriated without them realizing it. This could be much easier than you imagine.
Not much of a riddle, welcome to Earth 😛 it’s a clown world, and possibly a clown asylum for the criminally insane 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 4 2024 23:26 utc | 80

Ghost of Zanon | May 4 2024 22:43 utc | 73
It’s all bs. Various hamas statements deny this agreement. They say there will be no agreement unless their conditions are met. That includes rebuilding and idf removal. They reiterate they will not sell out their people and sully the blood price so far paid .
“A distinguishing mark in this battle is the steadfastness of our people and our resistance, which has astonished both friend and foe despite the genocide and Nazi holocaust.
Therefore, we will not compromise on the fundamental human rights of our patient and noble people, including ending the aggression, withdrawal of the enemy, returning the displaced, reconstruction, and lifting the siege.”
Abu Obeida, April 23rd, 2024
I truly doubt hamas has changed their tune in a week on these issues when their position has not been weakened. The threatened raffah invasion which Netanyahu said was pressure would only turn the world further against Zionists. Making even trump and Biden and sunaks stated positions further untenable for the elecorate

Posted by: Hankster | May 4 2024 23:38 utc | 81

I don’t have anywhere else to post this and it may have value in underscoring the extent of the information war being waged on the western populace regarding the genocide taking place in Gaza.
I attended a local freedom rally today in Ontario showing up with a sign on the side of my vehicle ‘From the river to the sea’ and you’d think folks would see through the zionist propaganda to justify mass murder of civilians, but instead my sign was contentious.
My impression after some lively debate was that their information was coming through some social media channels portending to be alternate truth oriented media. Several i spoke with today tend to not believe a genocide is going on at all and if it is, it is not relevant to Canada.
Just a few gentle poetic words uttering a hope beyond hope.

Posted by: simon crow | May 4 2024 23:41 utc | 82

Shame however is a potent tool against people who behave in an anti-social manner.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2024 19:36 utc | 35
The problem is that zionists evidently have no shame…

Posted by: farm ecologist | May 4 2024 23:45 utc | 83

phenon | May 4 2024 22:45 utc | 74–
Thanks for taking the time to comment. In a recent chat between Judge Napolitano and Scott Ritter, a substantial portion focused on the protests and the right of the protesters to protest; Scott in particular went off, and the Judge was right there with him. The point is many within the USA support the protests and ultimately you have the Law of the Land at your back, although that seems tenuous at times–it did in the Vietnam Era too. Analyst Alastair Crooke in his newest column, “Muddying the Water on US Student Protests”, offers some advice regarding semantic tactics:

It is ‘sleight of hand’ therefore to cast the Hamas ‘worldview’ to be one of ‘wiping Israel off the map’ as if that implies ‘exterminating’ or killing Jews. “Israel” would be ‘off the map’ in the sense that a future state would not be exclusively Jewish in nature — but multi-faith.
The Hamas ‘worldview’ sly imputation of antisemitism is a calumny almost on a par with the slogan ‘Hamas is ISIS’. (ISIS had Hamas officials on their death list). Hamas’ worldview cannot be stripped from the context of the hatreds ignited by the war in Gaza.
Most of Luce’s article relates to the issue of antisemitism — but Islamophobia is growing at an accelerated pace, too. It is important to de-bunk the ‘Hamas is ISIS’ meme in the West, lest such falsities slide us into yet another ‘war on terror’.

Present and historical Truth are on the Protesters side. Knowing the context and making it known is the best method, although not easily made into soundbites. Crooke’s opening sentence notes the real root of the problem within the Outlaw US Empire:
Many of the incumbents of the leadership posts in Institutional America are either liberal Zionists or Evangelicals.”
We’ve discussed why that is on numerous occasions and none of it has to do with religion but rather the promotion of two linked Death Cults and the power they’ve provided for very corrupted people.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 23:49 utc | 84

“Why not Russia as its ” friendly” with Israel, the Palestinians, and Iran among others ?”
Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 22:48 utc | 75
Russia cobbled together the Quartet on the Middle East in 2000. Even after the SMO started in 2022, Russia attempted to meet and press Palestine. To no avail.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartet_on_the_Middle_East
Russia and China will provide political cover and finances, they will support a unified Palestinian State. But mediator role is over as they are done banging their and heads against the wall, and believe the ME Nations should sort it out. I mentioned Yemen, as Yemen has some leverage should an agreement go the “Minsk” way.
Frankly, this is all talk. The US/Israel want capitulation/surrender or a wider war will ensue. Just like Ukraine. Just like Syria when they didn’t get their pipeline.
This is all the gangsters know to do. The US ship isn’t out there to build a “humanitarian” dock, their out their to bomb people, maybe even Egypt if they get in the way.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 4 2024 23:50 utc | 85

COMBATE |🇵🇷
@upholdreality
“This punishment fills me with even greater pride than the world championship title I held”
European Union REVOKES Kung Fu Championship award that after winner STANDS with PALESTINE
https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1786775811309146297

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 23:53 utc | 86

What we always knew:
Suppressed News.
@SuppressedNws
🚨BREAKING: NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS ISRAELI ARMY MASSACRED PATIENTS AT INDONESIAN HOSPITAL
⚠️Warning: Graphic Footage.
New details have emerged regarding the siege by Israeli forces on the Indonesian Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip on November 20, 2023.
Reports indicate that vehicles and tanks fired towards the hospital, resulting in harsh and horrifying scenes, including the targeting of surgical wards.
Twelve patients receiving treatment were brutally killed, and two medical staff were injured due to tank shells and heavy gunfire that affected all hospital facilities and anyone moving inside and around the building.
Source: Shehab News.
https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1786788318442553716

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 23:54 utc | 87

Suppressed News.
@SuppressedNws
🚨BREAKING: ISRAEL BEHEADED A PALESTINIAN IN WEST BANK!
A Palestinian journalist describes harrowing scene as Palestinians search for head of victim killed in Israeli raid on Deir al-Ghusun, their raid resulted in a total of 6 martyrs.
https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1786797191941484566

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 23:55 utc | 88

Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman
WATCH: Israeli hostage released from Gaza, talks about how the Israeli military shot at the tractor taking the hostages to Gaza, killing her mother and injuring her and her daughter and brother.
https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1786848018123337857

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 23:56 utc | 89

Abier
@abierkhatib
I luv thiiiiis…
Another Palestinian American lawyer is providing legal aid for free to students who were arrested or threatened with deportation over their activism on Palestine.
More lawyers plz 🙏
https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1786742837217755370

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 23:57 utc | 90

” Hey dude, why do you leave out links to hard polling statistics on this claim “Why is it supported by 95% or more Jews on this planet ?”
I’ll tell you why, cuz they don’t exist. This is a typical hasbara message point — to try to convince Jews from all over the world to come to Israel….and that is a stated goal of the project.
In the meanwhile, we await your proof of your assertion.
Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 4 2024 21:22 utc | 51 ”
Do you know what hyperbole is ? I think you do and just wanted to make an attempt at a cheap shot.
Of course, I dont know the exact number, but look around the world and then tell me a very large majority of Jews dont support Israel vehemently.

Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 0:04 utc | 91

“This punishment fills me with even greater pride than the world championship”
RE: Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 23:53 utc | 86
Excellent response.
Watching the video, seeing the Chinese flag behind the podium, sort of said it all.
The division couldn’t be clearer… BRICS vs West, that’s the bottom line to all of this. The West: “We’ll kill whoever we want, anytime we want”/BRICS: Check..no more.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 5 2024 0:06 utc | 92

” That 95% figure has an interesting history. It was put forward by Bari Weiss in her 2020 essay based on a sample of 128 respondents. A Jewish critique of the same is here:
https://jewishcurrents.org/are-95-of-jews-really-zionists
Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 21:52 utc | 59 ”
This is fascinating as I pulled the 95% out of thin air. Life works in mysterious ways I guess.

Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 0:08 utc | 93

Posted by: Hankster | May 4 2024 23:38 utc | 81
We are closing in on the Democratic national convention. My guess is that great pressure will be put on Israel to chill until that is over.
But the bottom line is they can’t. Fascism expands or dies. That’s how that works.

Posted by: JAB | May 5 2024 0:13 utc | 94

” The Royal United Services Institute has just released a study on Russia’s “head scratching SMO”. Don’t feel bad not “getting it”, better intellects have failed miserably too or were very slow to catch on.
Back on thread, @37, you allude to Hamas being “on the ropes” for taking a deal. Everyone one knows the Zionists regime only offers a truce/ceasefire when it’s “on the ropes”, otherwise it prefers genocide. Where’s the promise to not offer any deal other than to “destroy” Hamas?
@36, the only game the barflies here understand is the one you playing.
Posted by: Suresh | May 4 2024 22:42 utc | 72 ”
I was responding to the posters claim that Russia had planned the SMO out, in detail, for 8 years prior to its start which, in my opinion, cant be true based on what actually transpired. If you did any research on the matter, you would know that MANY pro-Russian commentators have stated numerous times that mistakes were made during the initial days, weeks, and months of the SMO. I wont bother rehashing them here, do your own research before making cheap accusations.
” @36, the only game the barflies here understand is the one you playing. ”
Bland, weak, statement without any purpose or meaning.
” @37, you allude to Hamas being “on the ropes” for taking a deal. ”
If you learned how to comprehend , instead of just reading, you would know that I meant that Hamas has no need to make any deals when Israel is on the ropes, so if they do make a ” deal ” it will be suspect in my eyes. Hope that clears things up for you.

Posted by: Moonie | May 5 2024 0:21 utc | 95

University of Michigan Grads walk out of their graduation ceremony en masse to protest the genocide
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786843767414124605

Posted by: ld | May 5 2024 0:27 utc | 96

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2024 23:06 utc | 76
So….about 10% of the US merchant marine is a dual passport holder with Yemen….Uh wow. This is dumb.

Posted by: badjoke | May 5 2024 0:36 utc | 97

footage of the mass murder of bedridden patients in N Gaza
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786849173611921787

Posted by: ld | May 5 2024 0:36 utc | 98

Posted by: Moonie | May 4 2024 19:50 utc | 38
You obviously know nothing about the material and political conditions in Russia, the state of its ties with regional states or the structure of the international banking/payments system as it existed at the time of the Maidan. In particular the condition of the Russian military was far too weak to mount an effective operation into Nazi-held territory in Ukraine. The best they could have done is rolled troops into the already liberated areas of Donetsk and Lughansk, and exchanged fires with the Nazis. Meanwhile the sanctions from hell would be applied, but at that time, they would have had a serious effect on the Russian economy. The Russian population was not broadly enthusiastic about initiating a war to save Donbass. Ukraine troops would have been on the border of Crimea and stayed there- Crimean infrastructure would be destroyed.
Using the casualties of the war we have to promote starting earlier and thus having more casualties, and strategic defeat, is just stupid. To answer your idiotic question directly: It says the Russian planners knew what they were doing and avoided a catastrophic trap.

Posted by: Honzo | May 5 2024 0:38 utc | 99

As I wrote in my May 2 substack, as unlikely as it appears and regardless the great consternation held by Barflies over it, the Two-State Solution remains the only legally viable game in town the Global Majority agrees with, crucially including Russia and China. Ukraine has shown NATO to be an empty shirt and would be incapable of applying force to the Zionists even if it that was desired. That leaves it to Russia and China to do the enforcing. (Yes, Iran would like to join but IMO it’s best if it just continues to manage the resistance Arc.)
Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2024 21:29 utc | 52

Since China and Russia were sitting on the fence during the genocide, didn’t boycott Zionist regime, didn’t forced aid delivery to Gaza by own military escort, didn’t sanction Zionist institutions within their borders, didn’t assist Yemen to enforce international law, didn’t defend Yemen against attacks from Western imperialists, IMO they should keep sitting on the fence and let Palestinian people and their friends in West Asia find a solution to the matter of Zionist Apartheid regime.
The “global majority” that you talking about doesn’t represent opinion of their own citizens.

Posted by: Framarz | May 5 2024 0:56 utc | 100