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May 1, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-126

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s role in brokering the deal with Jewish Home was widely condemned; American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the American Jewish Committee preemptively announced that even if Otzma Yehudit entered the government, they would not meet with them
In last election they have 5 Percent of Seats and are part of current ruling coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otzma_Yehudit

Posted by: phenon | May 3 2024 16:05 utc | 401

One in twenty seats in Israeli parliament are openly fascist.

Posted by: phenon | May 3 2024 16:08 utc | 402

When it’s open season for shooting Muslims in Palestine, it’s open season for killing Jews in Palestine.
You bar-philosophers forget the old cartoon of a rabbit with a rifle shooting the hunter.
I explained to you bar-philosophers before , that in Ramadhan , a non-fighting month , the Muslims are told to fight those who fight them even inside the precincts of the Holy Mosque in Ramadhan.
This the Jewish and Muslim law of Qisas, equality. You may mot start a war, but if someone makes war against you, you fight them with equality.
The same rules apply to the first , law abiding victim of violence as the first aggressor chose to use against them.
Westerners always think all the rules are stacked against Islam. Dream on darlings. Your virtue-signalling is like a motorist who “””””” accidentally “””””” kills someone by driving through a red light.
The pedestrian is entitled to feel safe crossing the road. If the driver feels entitled by road rage to use their car as a murder weapon, then Islam gives permission for qisas, equal revenge.
Allah then informs the Muslim that in Qisas is Life. Fear of death is the only thing that will make some people respect other people’s lives.

Posted by: Giyane | May 3 2024 16:35 utc | 403

Pure speculation but….
I’m getting a strong feeling that having clamped down on the major Uni protests in America, this is being followed by a huge and
Far reaching supression regards reporting on copycat protests throughout the world.
Oh so predictable.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 17:33 utc | 404

Anyone else noticing that elephant in the room ?

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 17:35 utc | 405

Fear of death is the only thing that will make some people respect other people’s lives.
Posted by: Giyane | May 3 2024 16:35 utc | 404
I am all for slipping some arsenic in the Israeli cabinet members soup or finding ways for Lockheed Martins board members to have an unfortunate driving accident, but what does this have to do with the criminal demogogues that make the decisions to genocide Palestinians. Even if you kill a settlor, they don’t matter and there will be another to take his place.

Posted by: Turk 152 | May 3 2024 17:43 utc | 406

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 17:33 utc | 405
I think it’s much broader and deeper than that. There are red lights flashing all over the place that the elites are doubling down on the “antisemitism” label for anyone opposing the genocide in progress. At least in “America”. It doesn’t matter how many dead civilians we see on our cell phones every day. I’m cynical, but even I am taken aback by this.

Posted by: KMRIA | May 3 2024 17:47 utc | 407

The Cradle: Bahraini resistance opens front against Israel
The Islamic Resistance in Bahrain announced on 2 May an attack on the headquarters of an Israeli transportation company in the southern port city of Eilat.
“The Islamic Resistance in Bahrain – Saraya al-Ashtar (Al-Ashtar Brigades) – announces the targeting of the headquarters of the company responsible for ground transportation in the Zionist entity (Trucknet), in the city of Umm al-Rashrash in occupied Palestine (Eilat), on Tuesday, April 27, 2024, using drones in support of the Palestinian cause and in solidarity with our resisting people in Gaza,” a statement read. …
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/24698

Posted by: Framarz | May 3 2024 17:59 utc | 408

KMRIA @ 408
Thanks for the feed back, i see what you mean .
Both are ‘public preseption manigment’
Otherwise known as full scale oppression by a dictatorship, facist hypocrits.
Will the sheeple even notice ?
But i’m still positive.
They cant stop this ground swell.
Becouse ‘the tiktok effect.’

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 18:06 utc | 409

German Police arrest Pro-Palestinian Students – Humboldt University, Berlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB19jjV4iGE

Posted by: Framarz | May 3 2024 18:20 utc | 410

I still think I’m hallucinating this, but this is from Sharmine Narwani so it’s probably legit.
https://twitter.com/snarwani/status/1786385237183783024
I guess this is the real payback for the embassy bombing and terror attacks.

Posted by: Emma | May 3 2024 18:35 utc | 411

Posted by: Emma | May 3 2024 18:35 utc | 412
I find it hard to believe that Yemen will have the capacity to hit shipping in the Mediterranean. Perhaps Iranian-supplied missiles, not the locally-manufactured hypersonics she talks about (not even the US has hypersonic cruise missiles yet.).

Posted by: laguerre | May 3 2024 18:53 utc | 412

I still think I’m hallucinating this, but this is from Sharmine Narwani so it’s probably legit.
https://twitter.com/snarwani/status/1786385237183783024
I guess this is the real payback for the embassy bombing and terror attacks.
Posted by: Emma | May 3 2024 18:35 utc | 412

Yemen not only have given the ultimatum to expand the shipping sanctions into Meditranian water but also started a game of Carrot and Stick with Saudis.
https://tn.ai/3078373
(Machine translation)
According to the international group of Tasnim news agency, in the shadow of the Sana’a government’s continued warnings to the aggressors about any foolish move against Yemen, “Ali Al-Qahum”, one of the senior members of the Ansarullah movement’s political office, announced today by publishing a tweet on the X social network that any base or territory that is invaded to Yemen from there will be a legitimate goal for the Yemeni armed forces.
He emphasized that the locations from which the aggression against Yemen will begin will become a strategic and vital target for the Yemeni armed forces in the framework of the expansion of the operation scene and target bank, and these forces will target the depth and economically important areas of the aggressor.
Referring to the change in power equations and balances, this official of Ansarullah warned the aggressors about the consequences of any hostile movement against Yemen and emphasized them to learn from the consequences of their aggression against Yemen for the past 9 years.
Al-Kahhoum further warned the mercenaries who serve the enemy’s goals and told them that if you were the winning card, you would have been valuable in the past 9 years. The result of betting on mercenaries is loss.
He also announced about the peace process that achieving peace and its implementation will serve the interests of Yemen, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the entire region and will lead to security and stability.
Pointing out that peace leads to an end to tensions and prevents the expansion of conflicts, this Yemeni official emphasized the need to prioritize common interests and their development and change the direction from hostility to friendship and declared that public good and interest in It will be the same.
Previously, the Supreme Political Council of Yemen, in a meeting held yesterday under the chairmanship of Mehdi Al-Mashat, the head of this council, warned about any hostile action of the United States that endangers the stability and security of Yemen and emphasized that the consequences of this aggression by the United States are only limited to the borders. It will not be Yemen.
The Supreme Political Council of Yemen emphasized that the country’s decisive position in supporting Palestine against the occupation regime’s brutal aggression against the Gaza Strip, which is carried out under the unlimited support of the United States and the West, is firm.
Also, in this meeting, Mehdi Al-Mashat, the head of Yemen’s Supreme Political Council, advised Saudi Arabia to prioritize its national interests in the process of peace negotiations with Yemen over the interests of the United States, so that this process can be completed in a positive way.

Posted by: Framarz | May 3 2024 18:54 utc | 413

No police intervention at Australian campus protests.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/05/02/meanwhile-in-australia-campus-protests-undisturbed/
US and Germany most fascist after Israel?

Posted by: Thurl | May 3 2024 18:55 utc | 414

Posted by: Thurl | May 3 2024 18:55 utc | 415
I rather agree with the American professors interviewed on Youtube, like Mearesheimer but not only, that the heavy police clampdown on the student demos in the States was a disastrous mistake. It’ll all calm down now the university year is finished, but it’ll be back again in the autumn when the students start again. In particular, the Democratic Convention is in Chicago again this year. What a perfect chance to repeat 1968. Nobody could conceivably resist the opportunity.

Posted by: laguerre | May 3 2024 19:12 utc | 415

I find it hard to believe that Yemen will have the capacity to hit shipping in the Mediterranean. Perhaps Iranian-supplied missiles, not the locally-manufactured hypersonics she talks about (not even the US has hypersonic cruise missiles yet.).
Posted by: laguerre | May 3 2024 18:53 utc | 413

Looks like you folks have missed couple of stories about Yemen and it’s capabilities.
First they beat up Germans so hard that Frigate Hessen deserted the Red Sea theater in less then 2 months.
https://en.irna.ir/news/85452358/Yemen-terms-departure-of-German-frigate-from-Red-Sea-right-decision
Then Yankee found out that it’s better to leave the theater for a week ago.
https://news.usni.org/2024/04/26/carrier-uss-dwight-d-eisenhower-now-in-the-mediterranean-sea
These are not the type of story that Western mainstream publish for you.
So, yes! Yemen can expand sanctions into Mediterranean water since everyone have accepted their hegemony in the Red Sea.

Posted by: Framarz | May 3 2024 19:19 utc | 416

Posted by: Framarz | May 3 2024 19:19 utc | 417
you misunderstand. I don’t doubt the Yemeni capacity to fire the things. It’s the manufacturing capacity I doubt.

Posted by: laguerre | May 3 2024 19:22 utc | 417

@415 laguerre
Hopefully college protests will resume in greater numbers come Fall. Big Democratic convention protests would most defintely be appropriate. Imagine there will be a huge jack boot there.
Hopefully the genocide will not be completed by Fall.
Jonathan Cook says Israel setting up Rafah checkpoints around Rafah to prevent men and boys from leaving the Rafah war zone.
https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2024-04-30/israel-us-plan-gaza/

Posted by: Thurl | May 3 2024 19:29 utc | 418

Mark2. Don’t worry, mate. Look at the Goldsmiths’ climbdown today. This is from Skwawkbox
“Six months of demos and five weeks of sit-ins see university climb down in face of students’ determination
“Students at London’s Goldsmiths university have won a huge victory after months of solidarity with Palestinians, forcing their university to accept their demand to divest from involvement with the Israeli occupation and to set up scholarships for Palestinian students.
“Organiser Fatima Zaid explained in a Twitter/X thread what the students have achieved, including the end of an investment contract with a firm closely connected to Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu – and a review of the university’s use of the unfit (and non-definitional) so-called ‘IHRA definition’ of antisemitism, that has been widely used to suppress criticism of Israel…”
The Demos are spreading rapidly. They will soon engulf Germany too, I suspect. Here in Canada University of Toronto students are now encamped-in the teeth of vicious Zionist authorities. and in Montreal:
“In Quebec, students at McGill University have set up an encampment on campus and have been there since Saturday.
“Both the university and the Premier of Quebec, Francois Legault, have asked police to intervene to remove the student protesters. The students, however, say that they are unfazed by these threats of police violence.
“All of these communications and these intimidation tactics, the threats of police intervention, even the recent injunction are just a distraction from the real reason why we’re here, which is, because there’s an ongoing genocide, that is being perpetrated with impunity by the Zionist regime (of Israel). Our universities, McGill and Concordia are both complicit in that genocide and, occupation,” said a representative of Students in Solidarity with Palestinian Human Rights …”
The stupidest thing the arrogant and blind ruling class could have done is what they have done: they are not just encouraging more sit ins and teach ins but seeling Israel’s fate.

Posted by: bevin | May 3 2024 19:49 utc | 419

Posted by: bevin | May 3 2024 19:49 utc | 420
https://www.gold.ac.uk/media/docs/public-information/statements/SMT-response-GfP-240301.pdf
A pdf (via your squawkbox story) showing the demands of the students at Goldsmith’s and the Administrations replies.
Am surprised to see such success, but it also seems like Goldsmith’s is a rather small, quirky university. I find it hard to envisage something like this happening out of a months-long encampment in Columbia U even were such a thing allowed.
But still: a clear success story for the Protestors!!

Posted by: scorpion | May 3 2024 20:15 utc | 420

I don’t doubt the Yemeni capacity to fire the things. It’s the manufacturing capacity I doubt.
Posted by: laguerre | May 3 2024 19:22 utc | 418
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Primitive machine shops can produce some mighty powerful rockets – for example the U.S. mercury and Gemini rocket programs used 1950s machine tool technology.

Posted by: Exile | May 3 2024 20:18 utc | 421

Thanks Bev
That comment has made my evening.
I have just been put in the picture,
We can predict numourus other positive developments are taking place all around the west.
But of couse the powers that bee would rather stick a live wasp up their arse than admit the truth on the media.
All the best, respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 20:20 utc | 422

The stupidest thing the arrogant and blind ruling class could have done is what they have done
Posted by: bevin | May 3 2024 19:49 utc | 420
And the stupidest thibg the blind ruling class could have said is what Wendy Rogers said by quotung Thomas Sewell:
“In a democracy, we have always had to worry about the ignorance of the uneducated. Today we have to worry about the ignorance of people with college degrees.”
Roger has three college degrees. The student protesters may not have any because a student someone still studying to get a degree.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 3 2024 20:25 utc | 423

Come on scorp your flogging a dead horse at this stage. But thanks for the entertainment value.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 20:28 utc | 424

High School students in Iowa City walked out of classes today in support of Palestine
High Schoolers!
GO YOUTH GO!!!
https://www.bing.com/search?q=iowa+city+high+school+students+walk+out+palestine&form=ANNTH1&refig=830b7b10bb424881b89d1d95b40651e6

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | May 3 2024 20:35 utc | 425

Speaking of high school students, Greta Thunberg said in January, ‘To stand with Palestine is to be human’.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 3 2024 20:46 utc | 426

Nakba Day: May 15

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 3 2024 20:53 utc | 427

Only 25% of US interceptors succeeded in Iran attack – report
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
MAY 1, 2024 09:10
Only two out of eight US interceptors succeeded in hitting Iranian missiles during the drone and missile attack that targeted Israel in mid-April, Army Radio reported on Wednesday.
Meanwhile, over 90% of Israeli interceptors hit their targets, according to the report. jpost

Posted by: Passerby | May 3 2024 21:14 utc | 428

Posted by: bevin | May 3 2024 19:49 utc | 420
Great news. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: JAB | May 3 2024 21:39 utc | 429

war correspondent and anaylst Elijah Magnier with some breaking news here regarding Yemen/the Houthis and Palestine/Gaza
and I have been wondering about this for a while, when they (the Resistance) were going to notch things up a bit/escalate, to include the Mediterranean sea traffic to that wicked apartheid stat
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1786382619229241717
#BreakingNews:
#Yemen Ansar Allah declared also the Mediterranean closed to all Israeli ships or merchandise onboard any ship navigating under any other flag if Israel attacks Rafah.
The #US puts pressure on the Palestinians, and Yemen puts pressure on the US and #Israel.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 3 2024 22:40 utc | 430

Alot of Uni’s are deinvesting, but were not hearing about them, most protests are being acepted, listened to and acted upon.
London school of economics here in UK.
More pressure on netinyahoo,
If i was him id resign now, and walk a way.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 23:02 utc | 431

Johnathan W @ 428
You may be right with that date…..
Egyptian mediators are saying Israel has given Hamas one week to acept their terms of agreement.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2024 23:22 utc | 432

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 3 2024 20:46 utc | 427
Indeed, and have you noticed how the media have become less of a fan of Greta since she made this kind of statement, at the head of the procession alongside Palestinian activists and wearing a keffiyeh?
And it wasn’t a “one shot”.
Congratulations to all the students in the US and Europe who are mobilizing for Palestine, let’s follow their example!

Posted by: Tak-Tik | May 4 2024 0:06 utc | 433

@ Tak-Tik | May 4 2024 0:06 utc | 434
Ohhh, I’m so confused! First we’re supposed to hate Greta because she believes in climate change, now we’re supposed to support her because she’s opposed to the Jewish genocide in Gaza…

Posted by: malenkov | May 4 2024 0:15 utc | 434

Definite sudden alignment of all Zionist run media . Protests are not anti mass murder, they are now Marxist. And any one standing up to them is a patriot. Interesting. Despite the frat boys defending a flag and the professor Jewish spy that works for the NYPD helping police evict the sit in . It’s all reds under the bed and rally behind the flag. Sorta lame propaganda angle. At this point you have to say is that all they got? Seems to me the protests have gone much farther than the think tanks predicted and had some preprepared responses for. The police heavy actions prove this. Germany France usa all showing the fear ruling class have as narrative management fails. Australia had a meeting between gov jewish groups and university CEOs who refused to shut down protestson campus. I was surprised the pressure didn’t get results, considering the press are lockstep on protests are terrorists vibe

Posted by: Hankster | May 4 2024 1:32 utc | 435

all the thuggery, arrests, snipers and a tsunami of hasbara trolls on X insisting this is some soros psyop and to not pay attention to the protests
university campuses around the world are exploding with students who will not stop
just a taste
McGill University
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786532746296185241
Italian students
https://twitter.com/i/status/1783846822198358256
University of Toronto
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786511609214509294
University of Chicago
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786454387780448456
Leeds University
https://twitter.com/i/status/1785670479878992151
University of Oregon
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786239577889583162
israeli agent infiltrate American student protest to make a chaos and frame the college students as a terrorist
https://twitter.com/i/status/1785948545692111204

Posted by: ld | May 4 2024 2:44 utc | 436

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttXyYzXKLUQ
Good Friday
Εγκώμια – The Lamentations – 1st, 2nd & 3rd Stasis – Holy Friday
The Lamentations chanted during Holy Friday Service
1st, 2nd and 3rd Stasis
I cried as I listened to this in school. As a faithful Orthodox Christan, this is amazing.
Lyrics for Stasis 1
In a grave they laid Thee,
O my life and my Christ,
And the armies of the Angels were sore amazed
As they sand the praise of Thy submissive love.
Verse: Thou hast enjoined Thy commmandments, that we should keep them most diligently.
O my dear Christ Jesus,
King and Ruler of all,
Why to them that dwelt in Hades didst Thou descend?
Was it not to set the race of mortals free?

Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | May 4 2024 2:52 utc | 437

@ ld | May 4 2024 2:44 utc | 437 with the links of world wide student protest in support of Palestine….thanks for you continued efforts in this regard….duly noted
I do believe that lots of little protests all over are much more painful/educational than large ones but, hopefully in either case, folks learn how to spot and corral the infiltrators…..I saw it happen at Occupy Portland and it was nice to watch….non-violent confrontation.
What a time to live. I feel pain for the human suffering and hope it brings good social evolution of the incentives that drive our species away from the God Of Mammon focus towards a more global public commons approach…..public finance as a utility provided by sovereign nations…..NOT PRIVATE

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 3:00 utc | 438

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 3:00 utc | 439
Were you in the group of two dozen or so Occupy Portlanders who went to Occupy Seattle?

Posted by: UWDude | May 4 2024 3:33 utc | 439

wow
not just students people are wide awake !!
washington today
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786405829601571276
Israelis demanding cease fire in tel aviv
https://twitter.com/i/status/1784334008538566721
the streets of London
https://twitter.com/i/status/1784226784176660984
it is all over the world

Posted by: ld | May 4 2024 4:04 utc | 440

Way over my head with this comment.
Did’nt Edger Hoover have a crackdown on communists in the US, a witch hunt that proved to be total bullshit damaging alot of peoples lives ?
Is that what we are begining to see here ?
If the above is true, both look /looked like psyhological projection. If so.
That inverted reality needs re righting,.
Hoover started a purge of so say commies,
The buro of unamerican activities. If i’v got that right….
What we need right now to correct things is a Purge of both dems and repubs, ridding the US of all the criminal polititans responsable for the mass murder.
Is that to late before the elections.
A start now would be benafical for several reasons.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 4:28 utc | 441

“…Trampling down death by death….”
A Blessed Good Friday to all
SFSN

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2024 4:58 utc | 442

Below is a short Xinhuanet posting that contextualizes the latest offer being shown Hamas

CAIRO, May 4 (Xinhua) — The Palestinian Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) has sent a delegation to Cairo in response to an Egypt-proposed initiative for a truce with Israel in the besieged Gaza Strip, two Egyptian sources told Xinhua Saturday on condition of anonymity.
“Egypt was informed by Hamas that a delegation from the movement was heading to Cairo on Saturday with the intention of concluding and implementing a truce agreement with Israel,” they said.
Hamas responded to the initiative proposed by Egypt after getting Egyptian guarantees that it could lead to stopping the conflict in Gaza, they added.
Cairo, they said, warned Hamas of the escalation of the situation in Gaza if an agreement was not reached.
U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Director William Burns will go to Egypt as part of the tripartite guarantors of the deal, namely Egypt, the United States and Qatar, they noted.

I posit that the tripartite guarantors of the deal are not guarantee capable…..show me a deal with China/Russia at the table and I will perk up.
I can’t believe Hamas will end the conflict in a manner that puts the genie back in the bottle.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 5:32 utc | 443

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2024 5:32 utc | 444
How right you are.

Posted by: JAB | May 4 2024 5:48 utc | 444

Do those bar philosophers who condemn
Islam’s law of qisas / equality think that the thousands of demonstrators for a ceasefire feel a sudden compassion for Muslims?
If so, what are they doing in Israel, an outpost of Imperial colonialism and a refuge FROM persecution?
Is it logical to place oneself into the epicentre of colonial expansionist in West Asia and also to start annoying the locals AGAIN after what happened last time in Europe in WW2?
No. The left wing of Israeli society understands qisas, that people will treat you as you treat them , and if you kill 100,000 of Them , they will kill 100,000 of You.
Are they pro-Palestinian? No.
Are they pro-peaceful living? Yes.
This genocide will ultimately destroy Israel if it does not stop IMMEDIATELY. Likud needs to be bulldozed alive into the rubble.
Then saner leaders who understand the consequences of genocide need to be placed in government under emergency powers to start to address the Starvation.
The alternative, if Likud and Biden and Sunak continue this genocide, is the obliteration of Israel , physically, diplomatically, spiritually.
As if it had never existed.
I’ll have a croissant and a cuppa tea please.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 6:24 utc | 445

psychohistorian 444
Hamas has only ever demanded fair treatment by Israel of Palestinians.
They will not agree to anything less than that EVER, as you rightly say.
Khazarian Ukrainian Nazism will destroy and delete Israel if it is forced to continue by the Anglosaxon Imperialist on their stated march to the Pacific Ocean.
Moron Western politicians are enslaved by Israeli Kompromat.
Does anybody think their disappointment at being humiliated is morally equivalent to the starvation and genocide of Palestinians?
Somehow the symbolism of Cameron’s dick in a pig’s mouth informs us that he has no respect for Judaism or Islam. So what is his relevance as Foreign Secretary.
We need solutions by sincere actors NOW, not later by fake elections.
The West needs to take action NOW.
BTW I voted Green Mayor in the election because both Labour and Tory are pro Zionism.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 6:43 utc | 446

Hamas are sending a deligation to Egypt for talks. All well and good.
But how the hell will they avoid walking in to an Israel terrorist attack, being struck by a missile, as happened in Iraq killing Iranian delagates in a consulte.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 7:11 utc | 447

What we need right now to correct things is a Purge of both dems and repubs, ridding the US of all the criminal polititans responsable for the mass murder.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 4:28 utc | 442
And who, in the US, do you imagine is going to run this purge?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 4 2024 7:12 utc | 448

For Hamas accepting a truce now would not be a bad deal because it would oblige some intl actors to show how genuinely they want to push for a Palestinian state, i.e. evacuation of a number of colonies etc. Plus some intl legal bodies would also have to be consulted wrt the atrocities committed. It would actually be fatal for natanyahu

Posted by: Minaa | May 4 2024 7:24 utc | 449

Lavrov’s Dog @ 449
The criminal justice system, remember that ? Ahh yes law and order… things like aiding and abetting mass murder. Treason. Missupropreation of tax payers money. Ect ,ect, ect, ect, ect, ect,
Thats my answer.
Here’s my question to you,
What makes you and them think mass murder and terrorism is acepteble and beyound the law ?
What makes you think america is beyound the law.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 7:29 utc | 450

Why would the Arabs accept anything less than a ceasefire based on their generous offer of pre-1967 borders ? It also appears the Arabs in their generous offer are not demanding payment as per UNR194.
Honest question

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2024 7:36 utc | 451

Lavarovs Dog @ 449
My reply disapererd.
A short reply…
The law and order system, within america, its a crime, mass murder, duh.
What makes you think america is beyound the law ?

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 7:37 utc | 452

AL-QASSAM BRIGADES: Our members targeted the headquarters of the Israeli occupation army in the southern axis in Netzarim with heavy-caliber mortar shells.
HEZBOLLAH: Our fighters targeted with missile weapons a gathering of Israeli occupation soldiers at the Sarawat point opposite the town of Yaroun.
AL-QASSAM BRIGADES: We targeted the occupation forces in the Netzarim axis with rockets. Two missiles were launched towards the Israeli Ruwaisat Al-Alam site.
AL-QUDS BRIGADES: Al-Quds Brigades bombed a gathering of occupation soldiers in the Netzarim axis.

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2024 7:42 utc | 453

By order of Yemen’s #Ansarullah, Israeli ships are prohibited from crossing the Mediterranean and Red Sea.
The Yemeni armed forces announced the launching of Phase 4 of their operations in support of #Gaza by targeting all ships violating the Israeli navigation ban and heading to the occupied Palestinian ports through the Mediterranean Sea.
3,699 km is the distance from Yemen to the Mediterranean Sea. 🇵🇸🔻🇾🇪

https://t.me/Marwa_OsmanLB/2492

Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2024 8:07 utc | 454

Israeli officials say they are discussing inviting Arab states to help oversee Gaza after the war. Arab officials rejected the idea because it doesn’t ensure Palestinian statehood.
New York Times

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 8:16 utc | 455

At McGill University in Montreal, “the Montreal police (SPVM) mobilized and worked successfully to avoid escalation” between “protesters of different viewpoints”.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 8:22 utc | 456

Iranian Universities Mobilized in Support of Expelled Pro-Palestinian Students in US, Europe
Renowned Iranian universities have announced readiness to provide anti-Israel sacked students in the US and Europe with tuition-free scholarships.
https://farsnews.ir/Rahgozar_b/1714734186196843084
The way US and Europe treat own students… in few years, the Axis of Resistance gonna have own lobby in the US congress and EU parliament …
I was watching some of videos of protesting US students dancing in Western manner and chanting in support of Palestine while police force getting ready to arrest them. Amazing how this dance element, increased amplitude and intensity of their peaceful resistance, changing the nature of a very political act into a universal form of civilized reaction against the ongoing brutality by Zionists and their own establishment.
Watch this young Turkish Kung Fu champion dancing for Palestine while you listen to the Swedish song “Leve Palestina!” in the background.
https://www.tiktok.com/@thebest22gg/video/7313543594814622982

Posted by: Framarz | May 4 2024 8:31 utc | 457

Indeed, and have you noticed how the media have become less of a fan of Greta since she made this kind of statement, at the head of the procession alongside Palestinian activists and wearing a keffiyeh?
Posted by: Tak-Tik | May 4 2024 0:06 utc | 434
So the Gaza war solved the climate crisis just as the Ukraine war stopped the pandemic.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 8:56 utc | 458

….. inviting Arab states to help oversee Gaza after the war…….
Likud really wants to deny it’s the occupying power with all the legal responsibilities that entails.

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2024 8:59 utc | 459

Request for a closed meeting is interesting; it’s not like anyone’s surprised at the particulars, why bother?
https://t.me/llordofwar/341163

🌍 Algeria requests a closed meeting of the UN Security Council on May 7 due to mass graves in Gaza
⚫️ Al Jazeera TV channel previously reported that the bodies of 210 people were found in a mass grave near Nasser Hospital in the city of Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip. The burial was found on April 20 after the Israeli military left Khan Yunis.
🔴 According to Al Jazeera, the bodies were buried on the hospital grounds by the Israeli military. The newspaper Al Quds Al Arabi claims that in this way they wanted to hide their war crimes.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 4 2024 9:04 utc | 460

Stabbed in the Eye with Palestinian Flag at Yale
Hoax exposed ( video )
https://www.bitchute.com/video/VLtfsTHGJrRR/

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2024 9:36 utc | 461

What makes you think america is beyound the law.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 7:29 utc | 451
That is self-evident my dear fellow. It is ‘the Law.’ The US can whatever it wants with impunity. Just look around the last several decades and since WW2.
Mark, who in the ‘US criminal justice system’ is going to charge arrest and put on trial anyone for mass murder overseas? OR for aiding and abetting mass murder. For Treason. Misappropriation of tax payers money. Ect ,ect, ect, ect, ect, ect?
Everyone knows the ‘crimes’ of the US state, where are the charges and the arrests? There are none.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 4 2024 10:33 utc | 462

What we need right now to correct things is a Purge of both dems and repubs, ridding the US of all the criminal polititans responsable for the mass murder.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 4:28 utc | 442
And who, in the US, do you imagine is going to run this purge?
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 4 2024 7:12 utc | 449
______
You’re right (it’s not going to happen) but Mark2 is still right as well (it’s what we need).

Posted by: malenkov | May 4 2024 11:05 utc | 463

This chinese/russian theoretical ideal of non-interference in ‘sovereign nations’ is BS imho.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 3 2024 10:06 utc | 372
It is the very reason they have not become imperial America.
Interference is a slippery slope.
It always begins as a moral crusade.
It always ends as a war of annihilation.
It is not a theoretical ideal, it is a fundamental wisdom.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2024 11:13 utc | 464

Now that Western democracy is controlled by algorithms, Western politicians no longer make to please their electorate, because the electorate no longer choose them.
Western electorates have no more say in government policy than Saudi Arabia or Qatar. Politics now is purely a matter for insiders and their purely political loyalties to those who fund them.
The concept of democracy is dead after a few hundred years, workers rights/ socialism being born with the Chartists around 1800. In employment also the sole intellectual input is pre-selected , Conservative ideas on how to maximise profitability over quality.
With this entirely monetised world, we enter a new Dark Age of Ignorance whose purpose is to obliterate the light of Islam, its alternative explanation of our existence and its alternative view of the value of human existence.
In my ventures into the world of the rich, I found only adultery and disillusion, as described by oldhippie above. The two ignorance, the ignorance of those dispossessed by tyranny and the ignorance of the possessed tyrants. Possessed as in rich, but also as in possessed by demons of unrestricted bad behaviour.
In Palestine, we clearly see the fruit of 10 to 30 years of abandonment of democracy, consultation of the people.
The dispossessed starve and wherever
they turn for safety, they are massacred. The possessed, are also
possessed in the sense of being insane.
Two cures are available. 1/ the light of God’s current manual for human existence, the Qur’an, and 2/ consultation of the demos , the people.
There are by definition no cures for us, the now-dispossessed , except in the light of scripture, and the light of free speech. Likud is the spearhead of a Western Crusade against Islam. Our second cure is the de-automation of Democracy by algorithms programmed by the possessed.
Western enlightenment was the result of ending the suppression of the Gospels by the church. And Democracy was the result of ending spiritual ignorance by the Church.
At the moment we’re being kettled into silence by the insane.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 11:13 utc | 465

This vid is exceptionally well-done, and pulls no punches. Dieter Hallervorden is 88 years old, and man he packs a punch. You won’t be disappointed by his performance, and the supporting imagery and music are every bit as good.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 3 2024 14:07 utc | 387
What “terror of Hamas” is this man talking about?
The moment someone starts off with a variation of “I condemn Hamas” I see a settler colonial sympathiser and shut off.
Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2024 11:18 utc | 466

Arch Bungle 465
” Interference is a slippery slope.
It always begins as a moral crusade.
It always ends as a war of annihilation.
It is not a theoretical ideal, it is a fundamental wisdom.”
Bungle
After coupla months serious overload, you have re-found your inner man.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 11:21 utc | 467

now we’re supposed to support her because she’s opposed to the Jewish genocide in Gaza…
Posted by: malenkov | May 4 2024 0:15 utc | 435
I for one am pleased to see a youth making better life choices for once.
“Well done Greta, you could have gone to the dark side!”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2024 11:25 utc | 468

Lavrovs Dog @ 449
You make my point for me. Its anachy. Have you got a better plan than law and order ?
I have but you and america wont like it.
Look at my perfectly good suggestion not as a suggestion but an altamatum, “an offer you cant refuse”
Malenkov @ 464
Thanks… you read it exactly as i ment it.
In fairness it could be read ether way. Lavrovs dog chose to read it the negative way, again.
I notice these things mmmm
Respect to you.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2024 11:29 utc | 469

The Epoch Times sums it up nicely:
Pro-Palestinian groups demanding an end to the war in Gaza and divestment from Israel have embroiled at least 50 universities and colleges across more than 30 states in the largest groundswell of campus unrest since the 1980s anti-apartheid and 1960/70s Vietnam War protests.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 11:33 utc | 470

As for Greta, isn’t it interesting she started her lone protest as a teenager and she is now college age (21)? And aren’t we all growing as we get older, even malenkov?

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 11:39 utc | 471

So Greta could be seen as a Trojan horse the elites dragged to their midst to advance their own agenda and she is now fighting against that elite to further another. Very interesting.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 11:52 utc | 472

@ Jonathan W | May 4 2024 11:39 utc | 472
Some people just don’t appreciate snark. But for the record:
Like or hate Greta, agree or disagree with her, she has always had more civil courage than anyone at this bar, and quite probably more than everyone here put together.

Posted by: malenkov | May 4 2024 12:07 utc | 473

Posted by: malenkov | May 4 2024 12:07 utc | 474
Agreed. She is the voice of the new generation.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 12:13 utc | 474

For Yemen why do you not use Yemeni sources first.
Here:
Yemeni armed forces announce start of implementation of fourth phase of escalation
[03/May/2024]
First, the targeting of all ships that violate the ban decision of Israeli navigation and that heading to the ports of occupied Palestine from the Mediterranean Sea in any reachable area within our ample zone.
Second, implementation of this comes into effect immediately and from the moment this statement is announced.
Third: If the Israeli enemy intends to launch an aggressive military operation against Rafah, the Yemeni Armed forces will impose comprehensive sanctions on all ships and companies that are related to supplying and entering the occupied Palestinian ports of any nationality and will prevent all ships of these companies from passing through the armed forces’ operation zone, regardless of their destination.
The Yemeni armed forces, based on the support of the beloved Yemeni people and all the free people of the nation, will not hesitate to prepare for broader and stronger stages of escalation until the aggression is stopped and the siege on the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip is lifted.
https://www.saba.ye/en/news3326256.htm
Yemeni Armed Forces Announce Expanding Maritime Operations in Support of Palestine
https://english.almasirah.net.ye/post/39731/Yemeni-Armed-Forces-Announce-Expanding-Maritime-Operations-in-Support-of-Palestine

Posted by: JB | May 4 2024 12:18 utc | 475

The Yemeni armed forces, based on the support of the beloved Yemeni people and all the free people of the nation, will not hesitate to prepare for broader and stronger stages of escalation until the aggression is stopped and the siege on the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip is lifted.
Posted by: JB | May 4 2024 12:18 utc | 476
Behold, the last free people on earth.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2024 12:31 utc | 476

After coupla months serious overload, you have re-found your inner man.
Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 11:21 utc | 468
You can have him back, I prefer my outer wardog to my inner man.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2024 12:36 utc | 477

Pelham
@Resist_05
Israel invading forces are moving in heavy demolition equipment in Tulkarm in the occupied West Bank…
Netanyahu has ordered the demolition of over 3,500 Palestinian homes that will be used for settlements…
We are witnessing a genocide of a nation in real time…🇵🇸💔
https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1786555750627856453

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 12:42 utc | 478

Arya – آریا 🇮🇷
@AryJeay
A serious “security” incident occured inside the Gaza Strip, forcing 5 IOF helicopters to air lift injured soldiers to the israeli Rambam hospital.
https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1786714323752009846

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 12:45 utc | 479

Arya – آریا 🇮🇷
@AryJeay
·
May 2
According to israeli sources, the 99% interception rate of US air defense systems is not true. According to their investigations, the US only managed to intercept 25% of Iranian missiles, during Iran’s retaliation attack.
https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1785966209923477860

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 12:46 utc | 480

Square profile picture
AJ+
@ajplus
·
47m
“I choose to stand for [children] to keep their right to learn alive.”
This teacher created a classroom in a Deir al-Balah refugee camp to help fill the gap in education Palestinian kids have experienced over the past seven months.
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1786727483011711399

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 12:48 utc | 481

everything ok

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 12:54 utc | 482

“Israel has a right to exist.”
Here is my resume.
1) I torture UN workers
2) I bomb embassies
3) I refuse to declare my official borders as I want more and more of other countries’ (plural) land
4) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries.
5) All criticism by any member of the World Community just reinforces my sense of privileged Victimhood
6) I never tell a lie as I have no concept. I only know what serves me.
7) I invented the Samson Option and will take the rest of you with me.
8) I commit collective punishment
9) I kidnap thousands, including children, with no judicial oversight
10) I will commit torture if I see fit and even if I don’t
11) I oppress occupied inhabitants and enjoy doing so
12) I commit rape with impunity against mine enemies
13) I steal land with impunity
14) I murder with impunity
15) I commit Genocide
16) I look forward to war and prod my neighbors for more
17) I need money, send a check
18) I commit false flags and if friends or even my own people are sacrificed so be it.
19) I implement the Hannibal Doctrine
20) Treachery and betrayal of my own people are a means to an end
21) I support and conduct terrorism.
22) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries, seeking support for all of the above
23) I know that I can count on other amoral nations to support my wars, oppression and theft.
24) I know that the World Community will not stop me as I commit future Genocides

Posted by: librul | May 4 2024 12:55 utc | 483

Ghassan Abu Sitta
@GhassanAbuSitt1
I am at Charles De Gaule airport. They are preventing me from entering France. I am supposed to speak at the French Senate today. They say the Germans put a 1 year ban on my entry to Europe.
https://twitter.com/GhassanAbuSitt1/status/1786673587673239605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 13:01 utc | 484

This is a USUKISEU Crusade.

Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2024 13:10 utc | 485

According to israeli sources, the 99% interception rate of US air defense systems is not true.
Posted by: Menz | May 4 2024 12:46 utc | 481
I don’t know if I would trust Israeli sources even in this, especially as they then go on to extol their own interception rate.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 13:35 utc | 486

I don’t know if I would trust Israeli sources even in this, especially as they then go on to extol their own interception rate.
Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 13:35 utc | 487
Yeah. The only thing I believe about missile interception is if you manage to set off a big enough explosion near enough to the incoming, then maybe you can affect it, or maybe not; and the faster they go, the harder it gets to do. Even with Katushyas you don’t get 100%. 90% is great work. So send 100, you get ~ten hits. If interceptors cost 10xincoming, the math gets pretty bad. AI bullshit will do nothing to fix that problem. And then there are slow, cheap, FPV drones with not much metal in them, so hard to “see”. It’s a new paradigm, all right.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 4 2024 14:42 utc | 487

If Haaretz is an accurate mirror of the Israeli public, they haven’t changed much.
But Academia and Entertainment are feeling the heat, maybe it’s a start.
Israeli Academia and the Israeli Entertainment sectors are being ostracized globally:

‘I Won’t Work With You. You’re Committing Genocide’: Israeli Academia Faces an Unprecedented Global Boycott
Haaretz April 12 2024
‘We’re Persona Non Grata. Almost Satan’: Global Boycott of Israeli Culture Ratchets Up
Haaretz April 25,2024
Israeli filmmakers, publishers, producers, artists, curators and musicians all have the same message: We and our creative work are unwanted internationally

Meanwhile Turkey stops trade with Israel:


ISTANBUL, May 3 (Reuters)
– Turkey said on Friday it will not resume trade with Israel, worth $7 billion a year, until a permanent ceasefire and humanitarian aid are secured in Gaza, becoming the first of Israel’s key commercial partners to take such a step

Funny coinkie dink Turkey stops Israel trade as Yemen expands coverage to Mediterranean:

Houthis Warn Drone & Missile Attack Coverage Expanding To Mediterranean Sea

Zero Hedge

Posted by: Laura Roslin | May 4 2024 14:47 utc | 488

Posted by: malenkov | May 4 2024 0:15 utc | 435
I’m probably missing some subtle language, but for my part I never hated her, although I didn’t share parts of her analysis and her approach to the media. On the other hand, I’ve always respected her determination, and I was pleasantly surprised by her recents and intelligently formulated stances on Palestine.
She preceded the current student solidarity movement.
BR.
Posted by: Jonathan W | May 4 2024 8:56 utc | 459
You’re going to take me off topic briefly, or not really, but to answer your question: You may think climate crisis is a hype but there is still an environmental crisis, and crisis is a weak word.
So yes, in a way, Gaza, Ukraine, the way the empire is flouting international law, also shows how little the empire cares about the biosphere, about future & living beings.
Because to resolve these crises, we need to sit down together and negotiate, war avoids this hassle.
It doesn’t solve, but it shows where the priorities lie.
It allows capitalism to move on, just as the Ukraine distracted us from the pharmaceutical industry’s scams.
BR.

Posted by: Tak-Tik | May 5 2024 0:12 utc | 489

I get that many of you are skeptical of the impact of the campus protests. You have to see the big picture though of all the forms of pressure being exerted now though legal diplomatic media military etc means.
In the UK campus administrators have been put on notice that if they do not divest they could be found guilty of complicity under the UK’s genocide law.
UC Riverside and UC Minnesota have announced that the protest demands were met and divestment and cutting ties will happen.
And all the visibility of these protests is making ‘normies’ curious and silent antigenociders go public supporting students. It’s making BDS much more feasible.
The ‘No thanks’ app apparently developed by a Palestinian is making it easy for regular members of the public to participate in boycotting the genocidal regime.
Israel will only stop if the US stops arming it or it exhausts itself. The exhaustion route requires the same persistent and patient resistance the axis has been demonstrating.
Final point: imagine having lived through 7 months of daily intense bombardment, the world not intervening. Then one day you wake up and see pictures of students facing down riot police because they care about what is happening to you.
Doing nothing guarantees that nothing changes. So I’m with the students.

Posted by: Sarah K | May 6 2024 2:03 utc | 490

Good piece, well worth reading the whole thing.
Posted by: scorpion | May 2 2024 12:54 utc | 203
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This was posted in the previous Palestine thread. People who read MoA regularly have already seen it. They’ve also seen the many posts on that same thread from people who think that Wolf’s article is totally hysterical and meant purely as a distraction.

Posted by: Gene Poole | May 7 2024 7:09 utc | 491