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May 21, 2024
A Kharkiv Encirclement As Dreamed Up By ‘Sources’

Yesterday The Economist published about an alleged Russian plan to partially encircle Kharkiv:

Ukraine’s desperate struggle to defend Kharkiv (archived)

I find that this is unlikely to ever have been a Russian plan:

Retrieved military plans, details of which were shared with The Economist, suggest the Russians were probing to see if they could partially encircle Kharkiv and put pressure on the Ukrainian formations to the east of the Pechenihy reservoir. The operation was supposedly planned for May 15th-16th but was brought forward by nearly a week for unknown reasons.

According to the plans, the Russians had identified two axes of attack on either side of the reservoir. The push on the western axis was intended, over 72 hours, to bring Russian troops to within artillery range of Kharkiv city at the village of Borshchova. They were stopped by a rapidly redeployed grouping from the elite 92nd Brigade, which pushed them back a full 10km from their initial goal.

On the Vovchansk axis, further east, the Russian plan had been to fight past Anna’s father’s house on the reservoir, right down to the town of Pechenihy. The Russians initially made quick work of this operation, sweeping through an area that should have been prepared with minefields and serious engineering fortifications but wasn’t.

The piece includes this not very helpful map:

I have marked the LiveUAmap map of the Russian Kharkiv incursion with arrows from the border to the villages named in the Economist piece:



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Borshchova is 15 kilometer (~10 miles) from the border.

The town of Pechenihy is west of the reservoir and the distance from the border is some 45 kilometer (~30 miles).

The whole Russian force used for the Kharkiv incursion is not larger than one division with some 12 to 15,000 men – most of them in back positions. Various videos from the operation show that the frontline forces mostly consist of infantry advancing on foot. There are only a few tanks, if any, and no large convoys of resupplies.

How such a forces would be supposed to do (within 72 hours) a five kilometer advance per day towards Borshchova or even a 15 kilometer advance per day towards Pechenihy is beyond me.

Such a move would require at least three divisions with a decent tank fist, absolute air superiority and highly mobile logistics. Given the prevalence of drones on both sides of the battlefield such an operation would certainly have incurred high losses for little but some tactical gain.

It would be totally untypical for the Russian force as it is currently fighting. Everything is done to avoid Russian losses. Artillery and air attacks are used to destroy the enemy. Only after that has happened will the infantry advance.

I do not know who made the plans the Economist published about. I do not know who 'retrieved' and 'shared' it. But I am pretty sure that neither has not involved anyone who is part of – or even near to – the Russian military.

It is disinformation with a likely purpose of demonstrating that the Russian forces are less capable than they really are:

"Look, they had such big plans but only achieved this little."

Do people still fall for such nonsense?

Comments

Retrieved military plans, details of which were shared with The Economist
Retrieved from where? From an MI6 toilet. MI6 plans projected on the Russians in their habitual style.

Posted by: BM | May 22 2024 4:04 utc | 201

From 1986 but still so relevant, from Michael Parenti Michael Parenti: Anti-Sovietism in the Media. Just replace Soviet with Russian. Also, some very good “unknown” history.

Posted by: Roger | May 22 2024 4:10 utc | 202

Posted by: Roger | May 22 2024 3:16 utc | 195
Thanks, Roger. I read the WSWS article and the one to which it links. Very informative and worrying. I see the same falsification of Palestinian history, although for different reasons, happening today in US academia. Obviously Snyder was “gotten to” – either by the CIA, by $$ or both. When an unknown Ivy League professor sees his current or former peers living to a much higher standard and being feted by the govt/media class I’m guessing it’s really quite easy to forget the truths he’s documented before. Especially in a shit hole country with no basic human rights or comforts like gangster capitalist USA.
Snyder is a bought off hack and history is literally being rewritten in real time to suit the powerful and denigrate their enemies du jour.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 4:11 utc | 203

Posted by: aristodemos | May 22 2024 3:34 utc | 200
I am not sure what to make of that. You are indeed long winded. Can’t say I didn’t enjoy reading it, but I also don’t know how relevant it is. All I was saying in my first reply is that those of us Gen Xers were definitely too young and too propagandized to really see what was going on until – on the early end (those born in the mid 60s) Reagan and Iran-Contra – or in the middle, people like me who were still in our early to mid 20s when 9/11 was perpetrated by Saudi Arabia and helped by Israel and the CIA. Forgive me for not really caring much about coinage or the metals that were/are used. Although I can follow your milestones. Just not that important to me.
Again, Gen X didn’t start until 1965/66 – For reasons I think are off-topic to this thread. And it didn’t continue until 1982, but rather around 1980. Kids born in the 80s, like my wife, are of a distinctly different generation. It’s obvious when you know and comingle with them.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 4:16 utc | 204

tom collins
i was just going to encourage you to read rogers post @ 195, but i see you have checked that out.. timothy synder is a liar and fabricator.. that is why he’s got that gig at yale… glad you figured that out… this has been discussed before at moa… thanks roger..

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 4:17 utc | 205

Also – aristodemos – it’s Tom Q Collins – but I knew who you were talking to. It’s just that the “C” is nowhere near the “Q” on any phone or computer keyboard. Was that intentional?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 4:17 utc | 206

the way i see it, no matter what you think of erik or eric prince – he is telling the truth on all the money going to the military complex and friends… jake is right to highlight it, or whoever did highlight it – it is worth highlighting.. this isn’t about usa politics… well, actually it is that too, lol… war = money and in so far as a lot of money can be made pulling the wool over people’s eyes – the powers that be will lie, cheat and steal via deception… that’s what this war on russia in ukraine is all about..

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 4:20 utc | 207

Posted by: Roger | May 22 2024 4:10 utc | 203
I’d also recommend “Blackshirts and Reds” by Parenti.
Yeah, james – definitely read not only Roger’s linked article but also the ones to which it linked at WSWS. Don’t know why I hadn’t seen this before at MoA or WSWS. Good to know. Snyder is just a paid Empire hack who gets to hide behind academic credentials. It’s sad, because like how Trump calls out the media for always lying, even though he’s usually wrong about WHAT they’re lying about, he’s completely right that they ARE fucking always lying. Same goes for American and Brit academia. They have a terrible reputation among the salt of the earth types (of which much of my family is, and I’m proud of them and fully identify) but usually for the wrong things. This could be its own post altogether but since it’s off-topic and late at night I’ll abstain.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 4:22 utc | 208

The reason you are confused, is because, like some round here, you believe in the ridiculous conspiracy that Carlson is some deep state mouthpiece. Just take him as he is — a media disruptor interested in bringing down the Dems through exposing their lies to the American people.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 3:18 utc | 196
Yeah, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, Dick the Wiz Carlson, head of VoA, head of Corporation for American Broadcasting, head of King Media and all around nice guy and CIA operative busily doing every nefarious thing for the Empire of Lies from overt propaganda to ‘election monitoring,’ and ‘unofficial negotiations’ with target countries. I mean, Tucker isn’t his dad, right? No way the son is following in his father’s footsteps. No way the reason he tried to join the CIA is shared ‘values,’ no way that the reason they wouldn’t put him on the payroll was that they had a job for him doing exactly what his father did in the media. I mean, obviously he didn’t mean it when he spouted all that neocon nonsense on rightwing media outlets. And anyway, he saw the light! Just in time to cash in big time with his own platform (where did that money come from?) and as a big star on Elon ‘MIC’ Musk’s very own media outlet… He must be one of the Good Guys! He wants Free Speech!

Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 4:28 utc | 209

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 4:20 utc | 208
Re erik prince (yup spelled with a “k” in true douchebag form) it’s important to note that this is the guy who was and probably still is pushing for an almost pure privatization of the US and other nations’ militaries. My take is that he’s currently on the outside looking in, and therefore willing to call out the obvious corruption we ALL see re: Ukraine and the billions of $ and weapons sent. He’s also a guy who’d prefer to see the world engulfed in numerous smaller conflagrations more amenable to the abilities of privatized mercenary armies to deploy to and reap the profits. Ala Smedley Butler’s “War is a Racket” but with the profits going to the banks and his own personal war mongering bank account.
For those reasons, I can’t take him seriously – and again, the primary reason being that “Duh, all of us already know that Ukraine is corrupt AF” and only a small percentage of the $/arms sent there are being used in the fashion we’re being told by the Mighty Wurlitzer.
In *other other* words: Tucker wasted his time with that guy. He should be an outcast.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 4:30 utc | 210

Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 4:28 utc | 210
Good take. As usual.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 4:31 utc | 211

tom – i agree with you their and of course honzo is always on target too… regardless the message he gives is valid but everyone here knows that already… the usa has gotten so polluted, even the bad guys look good, lol…

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 4:41 utc | 212

A Russian military court has ordered the arrest of Major-General Ivan Popov, the former commander of the 58th Army, alleging large-scale fraud, several media outlets have reported.
thats on rt and that is interesting…

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 4:43 utc | 213

A tad delayed, “Dmirti Medvedev’s Critical Essay on the Eve of Victory Day: Five Questions on History to Our Former Allies”, all related to Nazism, its birth and perpetuation.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2024 4:49 utc | 214

Timothy Snyder’s mind is toxic with distorted Racist hate for Russians. I don’t know why people can’t pick it up when he speaks. The poisonous sophistry of lies literally drip from his lips. No different than Cheney Applebaum, Pompeo, Clinton or Hitler.
fwiw for those unaware of this type of long term manipulations in the US. Stephen Cohen battled with the distortions of Snyder (and McFaul) his entire life almost.
Neoliberal Russophobes like Timothy Snyder have nothing but historical revisionist propaganda to offer, and everyone knows that Wikipedia is untrustworthy when it comes to controversial subjects that have explanations that differ from establishment narratives.
1997 “Russian commentators welcomed this development, viewing it as a positive shift in the global correlation of power and as an appropriate response to America’s sponsorship of NATO’s expansion. Some even sounded gleeful that the Sino-Russian alliance would give America its deserved comeuppance. However, a coalition allying Russia with both China and Iran can develop only if the United States is shortsighted enough to antagonize China and Iran simultaneously.”
― Zbigniew Brzeziński, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives
aka the Outlaw US Empire of Lies and Despotic Totalitarian Autocracy
2014 Quote
Stephen F. Cohen is a professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University.
he documented it all until his death September 18, 2020 as he was trying to prevent this war. you can read it all here: https://www.thenation.com/authors/stephen-f-cohen/
FEBRUARY 12, 2014
Distorting Russia
How the American media misrepresent Putin, Sochi and Ukraine.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/distorting-russia/

“The Sochi Games will soon pass, triumphantly or tragically, but the potentially fateful Ukrainian crisis will not. A new Cold War divide between West and East may now be unfolding, not in Berlin but in the heart of Russia’s historical civilization. The result could be a permanent confrontation fraught with instability and the threat of a hot war far worse than the one in Georgia in 2008. These dangers have been all but ignored in highly selective, partisan and inflammatory US media accounts, which portray the European Union’s “Partnership” proposal benignly as Ukraine’s chance for democracy, prosperity and escape from Russia, thwarted only by a “bullying” Putin and his “cronies” in Kiev.
… Knight’s innuendo prefigured a purported report on Ukraine by Yale professor Timothy Snyder in the February 20 issue. Omissions of facts, by journalists or scholars, are no less an untruth than misstatements of fact. Snyder’s article was full of both, which are widespread in the popular media, but these are in the esteemed NYRB and by an acclaimed academic. Consider a few of Snyder’s assertions:
§ ”On paper, Ukraine is now a dictatorship.” In fact, the “paper” legislation he’s referring to hardly constituted dictatorship, and in any event was soon repealed. Ukraine is in a state nearly the opposite of dictatorship—political chaos uncontrolled by President Viktor Yanukovych, the Parliament, the police or any other government institution.
§ ”The [parliamentary] deputies…have all but voted themselves out of existence.” Again, Snyder is alluding to the nullified “paper.” Moreover, serious discussions have been under way in Kiev about reverting to provisions in the 2004 Constitution that would return substantial presidential powers to the legislature, hardly “the end of parliamentary checks on presidential power,” as Snyder claims. (Does he dislike the prospect of a compromise outcome?)
§ ”Through remarkably large and peaceful public protests…Ukrainians have set a positive example for Europeans.” This astonishing statement may have been true in November, but it now raises questions about the “example” Snyder is advocating. The occupation of government buildings in Kiev and in Western Ukraine, the hurling of firebombs at police and other violent assaults on law enforcement officers and the proliferation of anti-Semitic slogans by a significant number of anti-Yanukovych protesters, all documented and even televised, are not an “example” most readers would recommend to Europeans or Americans. Nor are they tolerated, even if accompanied by episodes of police brutality, in any Western democracy.
§ ”Representatives of a minor group of the Ukrainian extreme right have taken credit for the violence.” This obfuscation implies that apart perhaps from a “minor group,” the “Ukrainian extreme right” is part of the positive “example” being set. (Many of its representatives have expressed hatred for Europe’s “anti-traditional” values, such as gay rights.) Still more, Snyder continues, “something is fishy,” strongly implying that the mob violence is actually being “done by russo-phone provocateurs” on behalf of “Yanukovych (or Putin).” As evidence, Snyder alludes to “reports” that the instigators “spoke Russian.” But millions of Ukrainians on both sides of their incipient civil war speak Russian.
§ Snyder reproduces yet another widespread media malpractice regarding Russia, the decline of editorial fact-checking. In a recent article in the International New York Times, he both inflates his assertions and tries to delete neofascist elements from his innocuous “Ukrainian extreme right.” Again without any verified evidence, he warns of a Putin-backed “armed intervention” in Ukraine after the Olympics and characterizes reliable reports of “Nazis and anti-Semites” among street protesters as “Russian propaganda.”
§ Perhaps the largest untruth promoted by Snyder and most US media is the claim that “Ukraine’s future integration into Europe” is “yearned for throughout the country.” But every informed observer knows—from Ukraine’s history, geography, languages, religions, culture, recent politics and opinion surveys—that the country is deeply divided as to whether it should join Europe or remain close politically and economically to Russia. There is not one Ukraine or one “Ukrainian people” but at least two, generally situated in its Western and Eastern regions.
Such factual distortions point to two flagrant omissions by Snyder and other US media accounts. The now exceedingly dangerous confrontation between the two Ukraines was not “ignited,” as the Times claims, by Yanukovych’s duplicitous negotiating—or by Putin—but by the EU’s reckless ultimatum, in November, that the democratically elected president of a profoundly divided country choose between Europe and Russia. Putin’s proposal for a tripartite arrangement, rarely if ever reported, was flatly rejected by US and EU officials.
But the most crucial media omission is Moscow’s reasonable conviction that the struggle for Ukraine is yet another chapter in the West’s ongoing, US-led march toward post-Soviet Russia, which began in the 1990s with NATO’s eastward expansion and continued with US-funded NGO political activities inside Russia, a US-NATO military outpost in Georgia and missile-defense installations near Russia. Whether this longstanding Washington-Brussels policy is wise or reckless, it—not Putin’s December financial offer to save Ukraine’s collapsing economy—is deceitful. The EU’s “civilizational” proposal, for example, includes “security policy” provisions, almost never reported, that would apparently subordinate Ukraine to NATO.
Any doubts about the Obama administration’s real intentions in Ukraine should have been dispelled by the recently revealed taped conversation between a top State Department official, (Neocon Zionist) Victoria Nuland, and the US ambassador in Kiev. The media predictably focused on the source of the “leak” and on Nuland’s verbal “gaffe”—“Fuck the EU.” But the essential revelation was that high-level US officials were plotting to “midwife” a new, anti-Russian Ukrainian government by ousting or neutralizing its democratically elected president—that is, a coup.
Americans are left with a new edition of an old question. Has Washington’s twenty-year winner-take-all approach to post-Soviet Russia shaped this degraded news coverage, or is official policy shaped by the coverage? Did (warmonger extremist) Senator John McCain stand in Kiev alongside the well-known leader of an extreme nationalist party because he was ill informed by the media, or have the media deleted this part of the story because of McCain’s folly?
And what of Barack Obama’s decision to send only a low-level delegation, including retired gay athletes, to Sochi? In August, Putin virtually saved Obama’s presidency by persuading Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to eliminate his chemical weapons. Putin then helped to facilitate Obama’s heralded opening to Iran. Should not Obama himself have gone to Sochi—either out of gratitude to Putin, or to stand with Russia’s leader against international terrorists who have struck both of our countries? Did he not go because he was ensnared by his unwise Russia policies, or because the US media misrepresented the varying reasons cited: the granting of asylum to Edward Snowden, differences on the Middle East, infringements on gay rights in Russia, and now Ukraine? Whatever the explanation, as Russian intellectuals say when faced with two bad alternatives, “Both are worst.””

In class lecturing – Timothy Snyder: The Making of Modern Ukraine. Class 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJczLlwp-d8&t=982s
NATO-Russia John Mearsheimer & Timothy Snyder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyT-krDx9Q0
Steven Cohen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-B1vWFdPXo
https://youtu.be/r0rtr-I0Zjc?si=S9_NVrBd4A-I40Dz&t=482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6xIYhSd2gg
debate between Stephen F. Cohen and Michael McFaul (ex-Russia ambassador and professor)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUWAsTij9yg&t=6199s

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 22 2024 4:53 utc | 215

Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 4:28 utc | 210
Unfortunately Honzo, those tin foil hats you wear don’t work at blocking the high frequency radio waves of mental paranoia and general nuttiness INSIDE your head.
But just one little puzzle for you:
To show how/why Carlson is/might be some deep state agent, YOU NEED to explain how ALL the interviews he has done (and indeed his whole agenda) since running his own channel have been aired to the advantage of the deep state/CIA. For instance Putin, Dugin, Erik Prince, Tara Read, and many many others who could have no possible allegience to the US DS as expressed via their statements. Do you seriously think Carlson is knowingly/unknowingly manipulated into chosing his guests, his questions, and even their answers? Lol.
Now, back to interpreting animal shapes in clouds and divining life’s meaning from tea laves for you.
This topic of TC was done to death months ago. So just live-on happily with your little conspiracy delusion. I shan’t engage any more on it.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 5:16 utc | 216

Re: , this is from one of the two Wagner TG Channels, I’ve no idea what the real story is, maybe others do:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 21 2024 23:38 utc | 163
On one side, we have a twenty year plus track record of Putins empathy for the Russian people, his dislike of dishonesty and traitors. It would be difficult to fake over that period of time Also a very good track record in picking the right people for the job.
On the other side is an unknown telegram account. Quite possible Popover backed the cook to usurp power. Plenty of extreme nationalists in Russia fighting the small war. If those clowns were in charge, empire would easily destroy them and Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 5:19 utc | 217

Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 5:16 utc | 217
The Carlson Putin interview done it for me. Putin made it clear he knew exactly who he was talking to.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 5:24 utc | 218

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 5:24 utc | 219
Exactly. Tucker is OK for ensuring certain topics get discussed. But honzo is totally on the money.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 5:33 utc | 219

Tom_Q_Collins, a question for you.
Are you 20+ years older than your wife? If so, nice action 😉 🙂

Posted by: DakotaRog | May 22 2024 5:34 utc | 220

Posted by: DakotaRog | May 22 2024 5:34 utc | 221
12 but we’re both over 40 now so the shine is off lol.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 5:41 utc | 221

Hmm actually 14 but same thing.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 5:42 utc | 222

Putin made it clear he knew exactly who he was talking to.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 5:24 utc | 219
And TC made it exactly clear that he did not.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2024 5:46 utc | 223

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2024 5:46 utc | 224
What do you mean by that?
Dakota – to be clear I was born in the early-mid 70s and the wife in the early-mid 80s. I hate to divulge any more than that.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 5:57 utc | 224

There appears to me to be some debate in this thread about the worthiness of some of the humans currently operating in contemporary media spaces.
I noticed the same issue a coupla weeks back when I had the sheer gall to suggest that counterpunch currently featured some on-point articles.
I guess the problem arises particularly in those who come from families/communities steeped in judeo/xtian bulldust. Such people tend to be looking for a ‘messiah’ type someone who gets it all correct, everything they say/write is on point ‘cos it agrees or expands on the person’s particular belief set. Have any comment/article/vid portrayed in a manner you cannot agree to and it means they should be tossed and never considered again.
For those of us who want to truly see a situation from as many sides as we want, we prefer to treat all sources of news/current affairs/whatever like the curate’s egg – good in parts. Obviously some will have more ‘good’ parts than others but that doesn’t mean the whole thing should be tossed, just that you should approach every vid, article or opinion skeptically, that way doesn’t just give you a sense of instant acceptance which is highly dangerous. Instead it gives a sense of what particular areas the source is ‘good’ on and what it is lousy at. More importantly because it will give you an insight into just how wrong-headed some people with ideas very close to your own can be and every now and then it will do more by showing you an area where you could possbly be wrong about.
I watch Tucker Carlson once every few weeks when he has a guest whose point of view is of interest/concern to me.
I’m well aware of his history including family history, yet the fact remains he is one of the better interviewers in contemporary media and takes a guest into areas a katy Helper type would avoid or even worse be badly researched as jimmy dore is when his interviewee is talking about a subject which isn’t M4A, Ukraine, Gaza, covid and a tiny number of other things.
Carlson will have a team of researchers who make sure questions are apposite, too many of the plethora of other sources on YT or Rumble just have a sort of desultory conversation with their guest and watching them is like doing a lucky dip.
Frankly I don’t trust any media figure as there are none that don’t have some ulterior motive for what they do.
I would never pay any of them & use an ad-blocking prog so they cannot make anything from my visit to their site or channel.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 22 2024 6:00 utc | 225

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 22 May 2024; pub. 06:53📍
🎯 During the night, for three hours, the RFAF carried out Geranium UAV strikes against enemy targets in the #Odessa and #Nikolayev regions. Explosions were reported near #Zatoka in the Belgorod-Dnestrovsky district and in #Ochakov.
🔹In the #Kharkov region, the creation of a buffer zone continues. Our troops are advancing with heavy fighting towards #Liptsy and in #Volchansk. There is a constant fire attack with heavy weapons, more and more footage of Ukrainian prisoners is appearing.
🔹From the #Seversk sector, footage of our heavy flamethrower systems striking #Belogorovka has been widely circulated,👇with a number of sources reporting successes there.
🔹Near #ChasovYar’s eastern outskirts, the RFAF are expanding their zone of control by digging into the built-up area. To the south, in #Kleshcheyevka, the RFAF are using tanks with “supermangals” to deliver assault groups. A fresh video has emerged of our flag being planted in the village.
🔹On the southern flank of the #Pokrovskoye direction (west of #Avdeyevka), the assault on the western part of #Netaylovo is being completed. It was reported about the retreat of enemy units towards #Karlovka. The RFAF are attacking the positions of the AFU south of the locality.
🔹In the #SouthDonetsk (#Ugledar) direction, the RFAF advanced to #Paraskoviyevka from #Novomikhaylovka. In the western part of #Paraskoviyevka our flag is set up.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, the AFU used a drone boat with mounted rockets on the Kinburn Spit. Having made a strike from a distance of at least 5 km, the marine drone left the area. The situation indicates an increasing threat to our facilities along the entire Black Sea coast. In the floodplain of the #Dnieper River, the actions of our groups on the islands continue, the enemy shore is more often hit with precision munitions, destroying UAV operator sites. Information is confirmed about the transfer of some units of the AFU Marines to the #Kharkov direction, where enemy Marines, replenished with mobilised soldiers, almost from the march entered the battle.
💥In the #Belgorod region, the AFU struck #Dolgoye in the Valuysky urban district, the settlements of Novaya Tavolzhanka, #Krasnoye, #Voznesenovka, #Rzhevka and #Murom in the Shebekinsky urban district. #Shebekino was shelled. A car was attacked on the road between the settlements of #Ustinka and Yasnye Zori, Belgorod district, a woman was injured. A moving passenger car was attacked by a kamikaze drone near the checkpoint of the #Oktyabrsky settlement in the Belgorod district; a woman was killed and three men were wounded. In the Borisov district in the village of #Zozuli, windows in two private houses were blown out as a result of an explosive device drop. Another drone fell near a residential house and detonated. A kamikaze drone also fell and exploded at the exit from #Gruzskoye village. Over the course of the day, several UAVs of the AFU aircraft type were shot down.
💥In the #Bryansk region, two kamikaze drones attacked the vehicles of an agricultural enterprise in the Starodubsky municipal district; no casualties were reported.
💥As a result of Nazi strikes on #Donetsk, one civilian was killed and four were wounded.
🎬#Seversk sector, #Belogorovka – massive strike by heavy flamethrower systems of the RFAF.

https://t.me/two_majors/24596
Video in the link that shows the last mentioned item.

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 6:14 utc | 226

In the Kharkov direction, the enemy continues to develop an offensive against Volchansk and its surrounding area, as well as to storm Liptsy and Zelenoe.
The goals of the eastern flank and units at Liptsa and Zeleny are to occupy the Liptsy – Veseloye lines. Probably two flanks should unite at Veseloye, that is, Liptsy-Veseloye Volochansk. However, the eastern flag has a more far-reaching task – to cut off the supply to the Kupyanskaya group and then go to its rear.
West of Volchansk, the Russians occupied new territories on the right bank of the Seversky Donets, north and west of the recently captured Bugrovatka. The Russians are attacking the village of Prilipka to the west of Volchansk, trying to break through to the left bank of the Donets and approach the partial encirclement of Volchansk. They are also expanding the zone of control towards the western flanks of the offensive. In Volchansk itself, the Russians were able to occupy a number of blocks in the north and central part of the city.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian military says that the Russians are accumulating forces on the border with the Sumy region, suggesting that the Russian Federation may launch an offensive here too, following the same pattern as in the Kharkov region.
Russian troops advanced in the Berestovoye area southeast of Kupyansk. The Russian Armed Forces are making progress north of Vesely towards Razdolovka, where Ukrainian defenders had to retreat from the forest belt and strong point. The enemy is trying to take Belogorovka, and fighting continues there. There are some advances of Russians within the boundaries of the settlement. However, the Defense Forces retain control of the dominant height (the chalk quarry dump).

https://t.me/rezident_ua/22892

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 6:18 utc | 227

During his tenure, Zelensky committed a huge number of violations of the Constitution of Ukraine, failing to cope with the duties of its guarantor, and after May 20, while remaining in office, he will add usurpation of power to the list of his crimes, says ex-People’s Deputy Taras Chernovol.
The politician pointed out that the head of state is elected exclusively for a 5-year term and there cannot be any other interpretations in this matter, even with reference to martial law.
“Now they are trying to repress the constitution in the process of usurping power. Five years ago, Zelensky was inaugurated; during his reign, he violated more than 100 articles of the constitution and committed a huge number of crimes. We need to talk about the rape of the constitution, an illegitimate attempt to continue their powers after 24:00 on May 20. Usurpation is the main crime against the country. Those who call it legitimate are committing a crime against the constitutional order of Ukraine. We don’t like a boar speaker, but we must remember that in 2014 the speaker was Vladimir Rybak from the Party of Regions, but he was smart enough to leave, as a result of which Turchynov was elected. The Constitution speaks about the extension of the powers of the Verkhovna Rada during martial law; this does not apply to the president.
A 5-year term is the only term for which the president is elected, both in regular and early elections. Some “greens” are trying to say that the decision concerned only early elections. But then maybe it was worth filing a case with the Constitutional Court? The Verkhovna Rada is a representative of the power delegated by the people, and the president, according to the constitution, is not even a body of power, so popular sovereignty is not transferred to him and the rules on continuity of power do not apply to him. Therefore, his functions should be preserved, but the president himself should not.”
, said the politician in a video published on his YouTube channel.
Chernovol added that Zelensky’s illegitimacy will backfire on the country, because the West has already made its conclusions, which will lead to a decrease in aid. Overt attempts at manipulation, pulling by the ear justifications for the continuation of his rule will cause indignation on the part of those who are now turning a blind eye to this. The politician believes that the Constitutional Court would not take the side of the authorities, so Bankovaya and “Servants” did not turn to it on a key issue for the country.
“Unfortunately for Ukraine, many of our foreign allies have already drawn conclusions about Zelensky’s illegitimacy. Both the attitude towards him and some moments with Blinken’s arrival are also connected with this. The issue of legitimacy is very acute for our American partners. So far the American opposition does not remember this, but after May 20, I’m afraid, it will begin to remember, and then any assistance to Ukraine will be in question, even what has already been voted on.
The Constitution does not directly prohibit holding presidential elections during martial law, although the conditions for holding elections are almost impossible to implement. Therefore, the constitution provides for the president’s obligation to surrender powers to the head of the Verkhovna Rada when elections cannot be held. If anyone doubts the correctness of these interpretations, there is the Constitutional Court of Ukraine for this. This can be done by the president or 45 deputies. I have a question – why Ermak and “Servants” did not go to court with this issue. Now the opposition doesn’t even have 45 votes. Zelensky and Co. did not file an appeal because they knew that the verdict would not be in their favor.
So far, the majority of judges, together with the head of the Constitutional Court Sergei Golovaty, are for the constitution. But later, when he is forced to resign, they will be able to outbid or intimidate the judges to make the decision they need. However, this manipulation will only add negativity. Even those who now in the West do not mention usurpation, since it is unprofitable, will not be able to remain silent.”
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– stated the ex-deputy.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/22894

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 6:20 utc | 228

The entry into force of the law on mobilization has finally turned Ukraine into a prison, and mass confiscations of property will begin in the future. Now the population will definitely have to forget even those remnants of civil liberties that they had.
Thus, after May 18, mobilization measures sharply intensified, people fled both abroad and within the country. The flow of “healers” is growing daily. Yes, at the very beginning of the military conflict, some men went to fight voluntarily, but against the backdrop of losses in the Ukrainian army, lack of rotations and demobilization, more and more people are trying to avoid mobilization. Ukrainian conscripts pay thousands of dollars for the opportunity to evade service, try to illegally leave the country by dressing as women, or swim across the border Tisza River, while some die.
As a result, the country has no future – no matter how tough the measures taken by the authorities, the population will still scatter and, what is important, will not return back to Ukraine. Ukrainians who went abroad, in fact, found themselves “abandoned” by their state, having lost the protection of embassies, being abandoned to the mercy of fate (and experts are already warning that the denial of consular services will cut off Ukrainians from the country for 10 years).
Indeed, many Ukrainians who have left the country are already looking at the future of their country with skepticism. And with each month that the war continues, they will take deeper root into foreign lands. Moreover, the government still has nothing to offer them to motivate them to return to Ukraine.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/22895

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 6:21 utc | 229

In the Kharkov region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are suffering terrible losses due to continuous theft and corruption in the construction of defensive structures. The average percentage of stolen items at fortifications is about 60%, and at a number of sites money was almost completely stolen. At the same time, all tenders are given to companies that are scammers of the Office of the President, so they will look for “scapegoats” on the side.
Those “modern protective structures” that were erected also leave much to be desired. They mainly consist of ordinary concrete slabs, which are connected to each other by metal plates 8-10 mm thick and by primitive welding. Even covered with earth, they will not withstand either artillery shells or, especially, aerial bombs. The military jokes that this is the only way to build cooperative garages for cars. Moreover, a similar situation is observed not only in the Kharkov region. For example, Ukrainian military officer Andrei Babichev criticized the fortifications built near Pavlograd – according to him, the dug trenches had already crumbled, the loopholes were not camouflaged, the dugouts were not deep enough, the trenches were dug in the middle of the fields, and not in the plantings.
As a result, fortification at the front failed, despite statements about “defense rings”, etc. As it turned out, there are no defensive structures on the first line of defense – they were only on paper, and in Zelensky’s videos.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/22897

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 6:23 utc | 230

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 22 2024 6:00 utc | 226
Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones. I dont care what they are or who they are working for. I care about what they say, and how they treat those they are having a conversation with.
And it really does chap my hide, though I rarely grunt, when people start trying to “warn” me about who I should trust, or who is secretly connected to whom, implying deceptive evil behind an obvious truth spoken by anyone.
I mean people quote Hitler, as examples of scary thought, said by a scary guy, then tell us to watch out for what bowtie Tucker says. Talk ideas or people? Was Eleanor a socialist or imperialist type baddie? Who cares, the quote is worthy of truth.
Like Jesus Christ, in vain. Who has actually ever truly spoken truth to power and sacrificed much, maybe everything short of breathing, here?
Its easy to tell those who have, and those who haven’t.
So, thanks Erik Prince. Maybe he got 3 dozen of his guys secretly torn up in Donbass and learned the difference between mercenaries and paramilitaries.
And tomorrow he may spout a bunch of stupid bullshit like he has before. Maybe he is white supremacist seeing horror of slav et slav war. Who knows, but today, he said some crazy truth, and he deserves props for it.
The critics expose themselves.

Posted by: UWDude | May 22 2024 6:33 utc | 231

The Carlson Putin interview done it for me. Putin made it clear he knew exactly who he was talking to.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 5:24 utc | 219
I’m sorry Peter, but we have completely different interpretations of the same words we have both read by Putin.
1, My take was that Putin revealed no more than he knew Carlson had once applied for CIA membership. That’s it. He made no inferences that he thought Carlson was presently in their employ or function. Ffs, do you really think Putin and the FSB would allow themselves to be used in that way! In fact, I think the FSB was probably laughing the fuck at the CIA for the way THEY (the FSB) used Carlson to get Putin’s pov out to the West. 2 billion views! Is that what the CIA wanted? Don’t make me laugh.
2, Go on, explain the CIA’s motives for the Dugin interview. Did the CIA send Carlson to extract and subsequently publish Dugin’s philosophical raves and resonses to Carlson’s naive little questions?
Simple question, simple answer: Cui bono from Tucker Carlson’s work.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 6:52 utc | 232

Putin made it clear he knew exactly who he was talking to.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 5:24 utc | 219
And TC made it exactly clear that he did not.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2024 5:46 utc | 224
What do you mean by that?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 5:57 utc | 225

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 7:00 utc | 233

So next, Tucker outs him self as massive zionist, and people here, who miss the point, be like, “I warned you”.
Like I care. If he outs himself as zionist tomorrow, I wont listen to him anymore, just like RFKjr. Until then, Tucker has my respect.
And it is easy to be the doomsayer, because eventually, everyone will let you down.
But how many years of good stuff, respectful interviews with truly important voices, will Tucker have to give before I get to say “I told you so?”
Well I wouldn’t. That’s the point. In information war all that really matters is the now. Them saying or doing something in the future does not mean you can negate what they said before, or are saying now. Truth is truth, no matter spoken by who, or when.

Posted by: UWDude | May 22 2024 7:05 utc | 234

This thread has failed to produce facts, it has produced opinions ranging from the sex life of a green-orange&pink bowling ball to the life expectancy of infinity. Can someone please list what has been discovered about the Kharkiv Encirclement and tell us what this encirclement, if successful, means? One liners will do!
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Posted by: snake | May 22 2024 7:06 utc | 235

Dick the Wiz Carlson, head of VoA, head of Corporation for American Broadcasting, head of King Media and all around nice guy and Republican party operative who owed his position at VoA, and later as ambassador to the Seychelles, to political favors and donations.
Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 4:28 utc | 210
Fixed that for you. I know you wouldn’t want your post to be considered misinformation at all.

Posted by: James M. | May 22 2024 7:10 utc | 236

Kartel channel writes Ze’s popularity has declined to under 20%. By the end of the year it might be less than 10% or 5%.
Like they said, since Ze is not legitimate, his popularity is now directly related to events on the front for which there is personal responsibility.

Posted by: unimperator | May 22 2024 7:11 utc | 237

@30 @unimperator Sorosites aren’t funding anything. Sorosites are under US State Department’s and CIA/MI6 control and are being funded with US taxpayer money. Soros is not paying anything.
The attempt at a Color revolution against Netyanahu started long befor Oct.7, no Houthis blockaded shipments then.
I have read somewhere the Buden administration was aware of an impending Hamas attack before Oct. 7. It was the Biden admin that let it happen, not Netyanahu.

Posted by: dave | May 22 2024 7:30 utc | 238

Posted by: snake | May 22 2024 7:06 utc | 236
1. No encirclement.
2. Never was.
3. Order for Northern Group is Corridor Sanitaire.
4. President Putin recently said as much publicly.
5. Pay attention.

Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2024 7:39 utc | 239

Posted by: juliania | May 21 2024 23:35 utc | 162
This is what I remember from the epigraphs of Eliot’s ‘Four Quartets’ — (cannot find it anywhere – thin little paperback – oh well.)
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Hi Juliania – you can find (almost) anything you want at annas-archive.org
Eliot’s “Four Quartets” is there awaiting your loving perusal!

Posted by: General Factotum | May 22 2024 7:55 utc | 240

Why did Biden agree to TV debates with Trump?
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Last week, the headline made a splash that Biden agreed to TV debates with Trump. What could be the reason why the demented president was pressured into this?
from Anti-Spiegel
May 20, 2024 6:00 am
I’ve said it a few times, most recently in the last Tacheles broadcast. My guess is that Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report, written on behalf of the Democratic-led US Department of Justice, in which Hur describes Biden as an “old man with a poor memory” and gleefully lists events in his life that included The year of death of his favorite son, Joe Biden could no longer remember in his conversations with the investigator, was not a coincidence or an accident.
My guess is that after the primaries, which Biden will of course win due to the lack of an opposing candidate, the US Democrats will remove the US President based on the constitutional amendment that allows the removal of a president who is unfit for office. Biden, who cannot win the election against Trump without blatant voter fraud, must be replaced if the Democrats want to retain power.
The scenario I suspect is that the Democrats dump Biden before the August convention, where the Democrats formally choose their presidential nominee, and then pull a candidate out of the hat that appeals to the party’s elites. I don’t know who that will be, we’re talking about Michelle Obama, but one thing is certain: it won’t be Vice President Harris, who is even more unpopular in the USA than Biden himself.
The announcement of the TV debates fits into this scenario, the first of which takes place unusually early, namely on June 27th, a little over six weeks before the Democratic Party Convention. Until now, the TV debates have always taken place after the party conferences to ensure that the candidates actually nominated by the parties compete against each other.
If Biden embarrasses himself on June 27th and his dementia is presented to the whole world in a two-hour debate, that would be the starting point for the Democrats to remove Biden immediately before the party convention. I therefore see the date of the first TV debate as an indication that my assumption could come true.
This could also be seen in the report by the USA correspondent that Russian television showed on Sunday in its weekly news review. It also covered some other interesting and absurd topics from the past political week in the USA, which is why I translated the report again this week.
Start of translation:
TV debates with Trump could be disastrous for Biden
Americans are stocking up on popcorn. Biden’s campaign staff has agreed to televised debates with Trump and agreed on the dates: June 27 and September 10.
Biden’s entourage must be in panic, because journalists have counted that Biden has made 148 slips of the tongue since the beginning of the year. And that’s just in the transcripts on the White House website.
Early last week, more than 60 Republican members of Congress made an appeal to the White House urging Biden to undergo a cognitive test or withdraw from the campaign. Biden has so far refused. However, the TV debate with the sharp-tongued Donald Trump will be such a test.
American politics, both foreign and domestic, are rapidly turning into buffoonery. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken played guitar in warring Ukraine. And during a session of Congress, insults and bickering broke out between women. The highlight of the political carnival could be the duel between the aging presidential candidates. Biden, who had previously avoided meeting his opponent in person, was the first to throw down the gauntlet. “Donald Trump lost to me twice in debates in 2020. Now he wants to debate with me again. Make my day, mate. I heard that you have Wednesdays off,” Joe Biden addressed his opponent.
That was a not-so-subtle reference to Trump’s daily court sessions. Biden’s campaign staff’s desire to act as if everything is business as usual is already raising questions. For the first time, the TV debates will not take place in the fall as usual, but in the summer. And with a whole list of conditions, all of which are calculated against Trump. Broadcast only on television channels loyal to Biden, meeting under four sterile conditions.
“I think Donald Trump will wipe the floor with him. And it won’t matter if Biden gets high on caffeine and energy drinks again, like he did during his speech to Congress, or if it’s regular Joe, like he did yesterday when he barely made it off the stage.”
said Sean Hannity on Fox News.
By agreeing to everything, Trump accepts the challenge. But he also has his own conditions. Debates must take place standing and last at least two hours. What is good for Trump is deadly for Biden. Another requirement is a doping test. And that’s not a whim, but in Biden’s case a necessity. “I just want to debate this guy, but you know, I’m going to demand a drug test. No really. I don’t want him to act like he did in the speech to Congress. “He was totally drunk,” emphasized Donald Trump.
This gesture of desperation threatens to become a catastrophe for Biden. After all, the White House also knows that Trump is superior to him both verbally and when it comes to standing on his feet, but the poll numbers are miserable. Trump is in the lead in five of six important swing states. And that is already too dangerous. In Nevada, he has a 13-point lead over Biden. The swing states that Biden “won” in 2020 are drifting more and more towards Trump.
Migration crisis, rising prices and abortions, the country enters the debates with a bouquet of contradictions. The foreign policy agony influences domestic policy and there are no foreign policy victories at all. It will be impossible to present voters with a victory over Moscow, as they wanted two years ago. Ukraine is on the verge of collapse and this will have to be discussed in the debates. The 60 billion allocated came six months late. And now Biden is discussing with the generals about sending American trainers to Ukraine.
Meanwhile, the White House is deciding whether to approve attacks by Kiev with American weapons on facilities on Russian territory. “Ukraine has asked the Biden administration to help identify targets in Russia that Kiev could attack with its own weapons. It has also asked the United States to lift restrictions on the use of American-made weapons against military targets on Russian territory, according to US officials,” wrote US media familiar with the situation.
The success of the Russian offensive is driving official Washington to despair, as is corruption in Ukraine, which Robert Storch, the Pentagon’s state inspector general, described in his report as “the most corrupt state in Europe.” But the project still needs to be kept afloat.
“Obviously the situation is incredibly desperate. We know this is a difficult time, but we are also confident that military assistance can bring about change on the battlefield. Yesterday, the Secretary of State announced an additional $2 billion in aid,” said State Department Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel.
Relations with the eternal ally are also a boomerang for the White House. Why does the USA support Israel and what are the national interests here? The answer to this question is no longer all that obvious to Americans today.
Biden has just admitted that the bombs handed over to Israel in the Gaza Strip have killed thousands of civilians. But a third of Biden’s campaign donors are a symbiosis of the Israeli lobby and the American military-industrial complex, which thrive on the Iron Dome and the billions of dollars in contracts for the Israeli army.
And now, a week after suspending deliveries to Tel Aviv, the White House decides to restart the arms deal for Israel worth more than a billion dollars. But Washington appears to be prepared for the possibility that Israel may not win this time in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. An extensive investigation by the New York Times into the actions of Israeli settlers in the Palestinian territories leads to a clear conclusion: For decades, Orthodox Jews have been engaging in lawlessness with the help of right-wing extremist members of the Israeli government. Palestinian villages were systematically bulldozed and all complaints were silenced and ignored.
“The devastating Hamas attacks in Israel on October 7, the ongoing Israeli hostage crisis, and the subsequent Israeli invasion and bombing of the Gaza Strip may have focused the world’s attention on Israel’s continued failure to resolve the issue of Palestinian autonomy. But it is in the West Bank that the long-term effects of the occupation on Israeli law and democracy can be seen most clearly,” emphasizes the New York Times.
The radical ideology of Zionism in the short history of modern Israel has become the basis for the country’s current leadership, conclude the authors of the article
https://anti-spiegel.ru/2024/warum-hat-biden-tv-debatten-mit-trump-zugestimmt/

Posted by: ossi | May 22 2024 7:59 utc | 241

say vargas, how do you feel about germany putting that un resolution on 1995 srebrenica in motion at the unga on may 23rd? you know, the one that is going to brand serbia a “genocidal nation”?
since a genocide is something brutal and used by someone strong, shouldnt germany and the west thus respect serbia?
Posted by: Justpassinby | May 21 2024 19:35 utc | 125
No. Serbia is very weak, a poor dirty vassal state of Germany/USA/China, even Russia.
A bitch of anyone willing to pay small fee and to bribe.
When Bosnian Serbs committed that crime in Srebrenica they were also weak. Now, Germany is going to use that as a mean of pressure on Bosnian Serbs and eventually Serbia.
On the other hand, Israel is heavily armed, ready to use the n. weapons if they want. They are committing their genocide brutal and ruthless on a weaker opponent who has no allies.
In this way they earn respect in the West and in the Arab world (not in Russia, not in Latin America). But they do not need the latter.

Posted by: vargas | May 22 2024 8:07 utc | 242

@ #243
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Posted by: Don Firineach | May 22 2024 8:13 utc | 243

“Pretty standard stuff, just to remind that said Iskander can reach pretty much anywhere in Europe.”
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/05/in-related-news.html
Another one for the Russia fanboys. Self proclaimed expert Martyanov seems to think a missile with a 500 km range..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K720_Iskander
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-26-2/
…can reach anywhere in Europe.
Am i missing something here? I agree w a lot of what he says, but ever since hearing him say that anyone could have blown up NS2 with a few kg of explosives and a dive suit, i question his statements and try to verify them.
I am sure if Russia wanted to reach anywhere in Europe it could, just not with Iskanders. A 500km missile launched from the most Western point of Kalinigrad would barely make it to Berlin.
Anyone care to chime in?

Posted by: Rubiconned | May 22 2024 8:27 utc | 244

Iskander-M
It uses two types of ammunition with two very different Range.
(I went to check the text because i was already ready to write something to annoy M.)

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 9:02 utc | 245

9K720 Iskander
It is one
M.’s text is correct
“Iskander” is a family of missiles

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 9:07 utc | 246

Now, Chinese missiles are so to speak one or two light years ahead of Russian missiles. But M.’s text is correct despite his enthusiasm about Russian missiles, missiles that are as outdated as American missiles.

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 9:19 utc | 247

Rubiconned | May 22 2024 8:27 utc | 245
Best to actually read Martyanov’s piece first don’t you think?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 9:31 utc | 248

UWDUde nothing Erik Prince said was new. The only concession I’ll make is that perhaps it reached a new audience. Again tho, 2 plus years into the war, how big or malleable could that audience be? EP isn’t Kissinger. He’s a relatively small time grifter speaking to grifters. Ho hum.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 9:33 utc | 249

USA fears latest Russian weapons, Asia Press reports
Russia’s new S-500 anti-aircraft missile system will be capable of destroying the Ukrainian armed forces’ most advanced Western weapons, writes Maya Carlin in a column for The National
And is the first system in the world to be able to locate and intercept hypersonic missiles above Mach 10.
Interest:
“The inclusion of the S-500 Prometheus system in the Russian arsenal could change the course of the conflict and give Moscow a notable advantage – more than 25 of these systems are already in use.” Putin said several times “that not all modern systems have been deployed yet “also in order not to show them to NATO.
The columnist emphasizes that the Russian military’s new air defense system can not only destroy the latest generation of enemy aircraft, but is also capable of attacking near-Earth satellites. And to cover airspace over more than 500 km. Which in turn probably has something to do with the top secret positioning and radar system that has been mentioned variously in Defense Ministry debates.
End of translation

Posted by: ossi | May 22 2024 9:34 utc | 250

Is there another $50Bn+ “aid” package pending approval?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 9:35 utc | 251

Now, Chinese missiles are so to speak one or two light years ahead of Russian missiles. But M.’s text is correct despite his enthusiasm about Russian missiles, missiles that are as outdated as American missiles.
Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 9:19 utc | 248
Slightly OT but relevant, maybe nato new missiles won’t be too far behind because of this
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/21/russia-jails-hypersonic-missile-scientist-for-14-years-for-treason?

Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2024 9:36 utc | 252

Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 6:52 utc | 233
Putin is very careful with his words when speaking in public. Everything has meaning.
Prior to, and what led to I think Putin, saying Carlson had applied to join the CIA, he said “you” when referring to the CIA. I think that’s when Carlson said “hey I have an alibi” or something like that.
The other thing is that team Putin put a lot of homework into that interview, the thick folder he gave to Carlson. A person of importance, an envoy of people with power in the US.
Putin also made it clear the CIA is were the power lies in the US, not with any elected officials such as presidents and so forth.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 9:49 utc | 253

Former US Ambassador McFaul To Russia Claims Washington was Lying To Ukraine About NATO Bid
2 years ago .. Munk Debates outtake 2 minutes https://youchu.be/watch?v=AoZ6wOlKpaE
(probably obvious to all)
The US diplomats are always lying …. Hillary Clinton, Blinken or Pompeo all of them all the time.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 22 2024 9:59 utc | 254

Yes
Yes, of course, the Central along with the State Department is part of the hard core Coalition (1963/67-) that is in power permanently, “Permanent Washington”, that lives Olympically above the political-media Show industry for entertainment and confusion of the plebs.

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 10:00 utc | 255

We wrote that it is not profitable for the Russian Armed Forces now to arrange the capture of Kharkov, since time is on their side.
It’s easier to make Kharkov unbearable for life. Having made the city the economic ballast of Ukraine. Add another 500-700 thousand displaced people, who will become an economic burden for the budget of Ukraine.
This is based on minimum calculations of about $50 million in additional expenses per month. Not counting the fact that the city will cease to generate profit and production, + zero on taxes.
Add here the same situation, for example with Sumy, etc.
Also add the case of problems in the energy sector, which are solved through the purchase of electricity in Europe – this is also an additional cost of $700-1 billion per year. Purchasing ever-increasing fuel prices.
Hence the simple conclusion: Ukraine will die economically within a year if the war continues, but loans will decrease.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17988

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 10:09 utc | 256

Our source reports that a large-scale redistribution/squeeze of business is underway in Ukraine, which is controlled by the Offices in the person of Ermak. The scheme is simple.
You are offered to “sell/give away” part of the business in order to have a roof. If you refuse, then your company will be surrounded by the TsKashniks, organizing raids on the workers. You are not given a reservation for employees.
Ermak needs to control everything in Ukraine. From business to the entire vertical of power. In fact, Ermak creates his own empire under the pretext of war and mobilization.
This is why ending the war is not beneficial for Bankova. They haven’t had time to squeeze everything out and clean everyone up yet. As soon as they finish, they will immediately change their minds.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17987

Colleagues, you must understand the simple truth that Ermak is only concerned about large assets, but his entourage and small functionaries are squeezing out everything!
Everyone remembers the times of the Young Yanukovychs, but now the scale is such that the regionals are not standing next to each other!
The Maidan really was not in vain: democracy was transformed into dictatorship, freedom of speech into propaganda, and a market economy into a military camp!

https://t.me/rezident_ua/22905

Posted by: Down South | May 22 2024 10:20 utc | 257

re: anti-genocide protests being like BLM
Tom_Q_Collins @194: “IIRC he said maybe, maybe not but he went to a couple of the protests and said it makes no difference. They are acting organically whether or not they get some donations and organizing help from third parties.”
Unfortunately, it does make a difference. A huge difference.
The most important aspect of any protest, and the part that impresses/frightens the Establishment the most, is the organization of the protest. It doesn’t matter if the individual protesters are sincere. What matters is if the organization of the protest was organic. Did the protesters self-organize? Are the protesters building enduring independent organizations? Or did the protesters just show up to a professionally marketed and stage-managed event, as if to a music festival or hip-hop spectacle?
This is important because with “protests” that are created by marketing firms and professional event planners, like maidan or the current protests in Georgia, when the sponsors shut off the cash then the protests end and there is nothing whatsoever the protesters can do about it, no matter how sincere they may be. The protesters, no matter how well-meaning and noble their intentions, are just grist for the canned narratives of the presstitute narrative-spinners that always work with the professional corporate event organizers. The protesters end up just being the scenery; the backdrop for someone else’s story.
I am not convinced the anti-genocide protests are entirely scripted. One important point is the encampments. These are dangerous to the Establishment because it gives the protesters time outside of the scheduled events to network. Instead of bussing in the protesters, having them listen to some curated speechifying, having them walk around in a regimented way, then bussing them home again, at encampments there is lots of unstructured time available to the protesters for discussion among themselves. That is bad for the Establishment because out of the discussion could come the awareness of a need for independent organization.
I am not saying the Soros types are not involved, but I don’t think they are fully in control. I think perhaps they are just trying to get ahead of these actions so they can fully control them.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 22 2024 10:30 utc | 258

Posted by: William Gruff | May 22 2024 10:30 utc | 258
Sure. Fair points. But in this particular case it’s more irrelevant due to how quickly the overwhelming majority were straight up violently shut down including with the help of Zionist outside agitator groups. Most of the encampments are totally gone now. Not even as long lasting as the smaller Occupy protests like the one I spent some time at in San Antonio. The powers that be shut the kids down muy pronto.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 10:38 utc | 259

“This topic of TC [Tucker Carlson] was done to death months ago. So just live-on happily with your little conspiracy delusion. I shan’t engage any more on it.”
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 5:16 utc | 216
You are right, Jake; Honzo is delusional on this point.

Posted by: canuck | May 22 2024 10:44 utc | 260

“Former US Ambassador McFaul To Russia Claims Washington was Lying To Ukraine About NATO Bid”

No … and Yes
Yes … and No
Calculated ambiguity and leaving all options open is one of the State Department’s favorite tactics
It is similar to the oligarchic Show for entertainment and confusion of the plebs (AKA, POTUS elections)
– If when tossing the coin it comes up heads, I win
– If when tossing the coin it comes up tails, you lose
The cruelty in the case of the Ukrainian Gambit (1997/2008-) is that it was directed at the Russians …
and at the Ukrainian pawns sacrificed on the Altar of the Empire

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 10:55 utc | 261

“Entering NATO after a big war with Russia” is what the Ukrainian Rasputin, advisor to the hired actor Z, said.
He clearly expresses what he was made to believe: joining NATO as a reward for Ukrainian sacrifice.

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 11:01 utc | 262

Rubiconned 245
I’m pretty sure the Russians have submarines swimming around Europe with missiles on board.

Posted by: Glasshopper | May 22 2024 11:08 utc | 263

2019
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksii_Arestovych
In 2019 he expressed with complete clarity the beliefs of the kamikaze regime that Central, MI6 and State Department installed in Kiev by showering money on Volynia-Galician nationalists who took over Ukraine

Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 11:08 utc | 264

And TC made it exactly clear that he did not.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2024 5:46 utc | 224
What did I mean?
That TC didn’t do his homework. By his account, he’d been negotiating the Putin interview for something like a year.
Then, when it happens, he demonstrates he knows only superficial western msm nonsense about Putin. / Russia.
If Richard Medhurst, or Mike Jones or Patrick Lancaster or Graham Philips or Caitlin Johnstone or a bakers dozen of indie journos or even Judge Nap had scored that interview, they’d have done a 100% better job.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2024 11:14 utc | 265

In defence of Honzos opinion – I’ll give mine because as usual the thread hijackers started it first. Enjoy.
Re secret agent world famous ‘newsman’ broadcaster indisputable leader of the gang Top Cat , ‘Tucker’ Carlson- doesn’t the name just reek of Americana sleekness?
Btw . Who would call their child that? It’s more of a nickname like ‘Bunter’ in England for some posh kids who eat lots or sometimes for being tired from some activity as in being tuckered out after a hard day.
As a name it’s more a surname here, infamous as the fictionalised foul mouthed spin doctor at No10 – Malcolm Tucker played by later Dr Who Peter Capaldi … I transgress , back to cartoon TC.
Anyone remember the 70’s puppet propaganda kids show Joe 90?
From the same bunch that gave the kiddies propaganda puppet show International Rescue.
Yup we have been raised in the West under such child abuse as we can see the Ukranian kids with their Nazi worshipping over the last 10 years.
That is who TC resembles.
A puppet boy in a futuristic West fighting the evil East.
Moulded by his super brainy father, programmed through a flashy computer magic chair which allowed the child to transform into a super spy with great expertise .. by donning his super specs and returning to a simple child by removing them , always fooling the ‘enemy’ deep behind their lines as some speckly child who had got away from some tour … yup smart, simplistic, exciting for all us kiddies in the simpler days … future such shows got sophisticated.
Tucker Carlson was moulded in that crucible of neocon media run by the likes of his daddy just another great Nazgûl of banal evil, such as Murrrdorch , that spawned much of our effluvium media News folk including Annanpour, Maddow and the utter toady penis Piss Moron, who also has been launched from the dying cable and small audiences into the massed eyeballs and ears available in the inter web – which have usurped and cancelled actual talents and Indy types such as Russell Brand from his established channels. They sent TC on that guys show before that knife went in!
Tucker is smart and trained and undoubtedly determines how he goes about doing his appointed task with the full backing of the highest intelligence spookiness that he is scion of. On Musks Twatter platform, another random ‘genius’ who also seems to have plenty of hidden moneybag backers as the foul mouthed pornographer and media mogul and maker of Prime Ministers, Murdoch did when he came fully formed, charging out of the Aussie outback or wherever as the most poisonous critters that nation is known for..
Yup little stringed puppet child Joe90 is TopCat24 as the secret weapon in the fight to retain imaginary supremacy of the Collect Wastes American Wet Dream regardless of how much limited hangout ‘cover’ that he uses.
He will be full on Trump or whatever outsider that gets given the White House – which is inevitable without an extreme amount of vote fixing that will not be believable this time round. His cultivated conservative dad pseudo Christian family values patriot and serious faced close eyed face and patter perfected and ready to propel him into politics as and when needed.
The media sheepdogs of the left and right have been whistled into action as they lose to the bear and try to fool the dragon overhead to keep the sheeple from rebelling and crashing through and over the gatekeepers. That includes the likes of Measlyhammer and the total fascist revisionist high academic sanitiser of Nazism – professor Herr Snider.
Both appropriately named for what they do, it’s uncanny!
Kharkov?
That’s always been a Russian City like most of their borderland cities down to Odessa – there is no need to invade them to make them Russian. Their peoples can decide with open referendums where they want to be associated in due course. Most will choose the sanity, welfare and security of the RF like the other little cubs which have rushed back to the fold.
Right now the Wastes mini-me Churchill (really? couldn’t they find a better role model instead of that unhinged mass murder and xenophobe?) is being turned from the darling Nazi Hitler into an unelected Tiny Dick Tatter (mr potato) who will be the scapegoat as were Adolf and Napoleon for failing in the centuries long lust to take Russia and EurAsia

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 22 2024 11:19 utc | 266

Tom_Q._Collins, #224
Ok, cool! I thought you might be a bit older like me (early 1960s) and so a true generational difference between the spouse. To be clear, there isn’t a generational difference between me and my spouse. Sorry for the off topic, the original conversation just caught my eye.

Posted by: DakotaRog | May 22 2024 11:27 utc | 267

“say vargas, how do you feel about germany putting that un resolution on 1995 srebrenica in motion at the unga on may 23rd? you know, the one that is going to brand serbia a “genocidal nation”?
since a genocide is something brutal and used by someone strong, shouldnt germany and the west thus respect serbia?”
Posted by: Justpassinby | May 21 2024 19:35 utc |
Germany has an hatred for Serbia because of WW1 and WW2, that is why they helped the disintegration of Yugoslavia with their old Croat WW2 allies.
No women or infants were killed by Bosnian Serbs in Srebrenica. Mladic organized the evacuation of women and infants as requested by the Muslim representatives of Srebrebica.
Apparently there were some shootings (accidental and/or deliberate exexutions?) done by Serbs. According to the Hague 1100~ got executed. There were also killings because of fightings, mines, etc. Total number of deaths added to 8000.
British SAS gave Srebrenica defenders the impression airstrikes were being called (not happened). So no need for Muslims to get back their artillery in UN depots.
British SAS were also on the ground when the “executions” happened. See: https://thegrayzone.com/2023/12/27/mass-graves-britains-srebrenica/
Ratko Mladic was not in Srebrenica during the “executions”, he was in Serbia. He was only during the capture in Srebrenica, not the days after.
CNN camera men travelled with Mladic whih he requested to Srebrenica during the capture.
Nasser Oric, commander in Srebrenica, massacred Serb civilians in and outside Srebrenia in the years before the fall as to lure Bosnian Serb Army away from Sarajevo. He and his henchmen fled by helicpoters to Sarajevo right before Bosnian Serb Army entered undefended Srebrenica. B. Serbs never planned to seize Srebrenica, it just happened to be undefended and they captured it.
Many military men (armed and unarmed) fled towards Tuzla by foot over the mountains. Many got killed by Serb artillery and mines, starvation.
That is not genocide. Genocide has been redefined by Western Powers to suit their new “Responsibility To Protect” Imperialist interventionist policy. Which they also applied in Lybia and tried in Syria. First the West creates chaos in victim country then they pursuit the R2P intervention.
“Genocide” has been committed by the USA in Korea and Vietnam with their carpet bombings and executions of civilians. Similar things are the Israeli doing in Gaza. It is still nothing compared what was done in WW2.

Posted by: dave | May 22 2024 11:49 utc | 268

Ok. So your comment was not in reference to the CIA issue that Peter had just posted and to which you had responded.
But on your topic of journalistic research, I would say that NO research was even needed, because Carlson only wanted to ask “everyman” types of questions. Yes, Putin was expecting better than talk show mentality (as were all of America’s pundit reviewers), but I would say that Carlson was in fact TRYING to dumb down the issues for the ignorant, simplistic US TV viewer. And despite him trying, Putin kept “elevating” the tone.
Hence again, I fail to see how, if Carlson was some CIA spook, such simplemindedness would serve his masters’ purposes. CIA, my arse.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 12:09 utc | 269

Peter AU1 | May 22 2024 9:49 utc | 253
Agreed Putin is exact with his words.
But that particular exchange was lighthearted, such that Putin said “you”, as meaning “you Americans” — to which Carlson replied facetiously as if to mean “it wasn’t MY fault”. It had no connection with the CIA quip. You’re joining unconnected dots.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 12:23 utc | 270

@ I’m pretty sure the Russians have submarines swimming around Europe with missiles on board.
Posted by: Glasshopper | May 22 2024 11:08 utc | 263
– More like a certainty than pretty sure, but, Russian subs are not equipped with Iskander. It is a land based weapon fitted onto mobile launchers. AFAIK, subs are designed to carry strategic nukes, not tactical ones, meaning their use would imply a much higher level of escalation.
@ Posted by: Simon | May 22 2024 9:02 utc | 245
I have checked all Iskander variants, ballistic, cruise, -M etc… nowhere can find a source indicating Iskanders can fly more than 500 km. People can either post a reputable link to prove otherwise, or kindly stfu, i’m not biased either way.
Which brings me back to the point: on what grounds would any self respecting ‘expert’ claim these Iskander missiles can reach anywhere in Europe? Especially when they make such a point of sh1tting on the incompetence and bs’ing of others?

Posted by: Rubiconned | May 22 2024 12:25 utc | 271

UWDUde nothing Erik Prince said was new. The only concession I’ll make is that perhaps it reached a new audience. Again tho, 2 plus years into the war, how big or malleable could that audience be? EP isn’t Kissinger. He’s a relatively small time grifter speaking to grifters. Ho hum.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 22 2024 9:33 utc | 249
Sigh. You’re still bunging on about Price’s words, the content, the substance of his statements which, to all the alt-Ukraine crowd, are nothing new. That’s not what is significant. It is the CONTEXT of the interview to Carlson’s viewers who may not have heard such stuff before from an MIC insider, and one who revealed he knew that 2 years ago, and within Carlson’s m.o. of relentless Biden-bashing.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 12:34 utc | 272

A good analysis of the strategic importance of Kharkov and it’s relationship with the Russian objective of taking the donbas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5kxFQjyRYc

Posted by: HB_Norica | May 22 2024 12:42 utc | 273

Canuck Exile and associates
‘We’re going to see a banking crisis, the likes of which we have never seen in modern history.’-@geraldcelente warns the US is on the verge of an unprecedented banking crisis that will send the economy into a meltdown…lead to escalating wars…
post from Afshin Rattansi Going Underground rt …..from his telegram re rumble interview with well acknowledged Gerald Celente Director The Trends Research Institute
straightforward explanaition debt inflation devaluation interest rates etc

Posted by: Jo | May 22 2024 13:26 utc | 274

Jake Blanchard @269
It seems obvious that you do not know what an intelligence agency agent is. An agent is not a formal employee of the agency, secret or otherwise. That would be an “operator”, or some other job title. Agents are not officially on the payroll, though sometimes they are paid in cash (or drugs or child prostitutes or some other such “currency”). Just as often agents will work for an agency due to blackmail or threats to the well being of self or loved ones. Equally often agents will do the bidding of the agency out of a warped sense of patriotism and duty to country (many presstitutes are here).
In any case, most agents of intelligence agencies work for the agency on a part-time, informal, ad hoc basis. No small number may not even know they are working for an intelligence agency, or which agency it is that is giving them instructions. It is not as if every waking thought is about the agency.
Tucker Carlson is 100% certain a CIA agent. There is no question about that. Of course, that doesn’t mean he punches a clock at Langley. Carlson has his own shit going on and most of the time that has nothing to do with the CIA. In fact, he might even hang up on them when his operators at the CIA call him, or perhaps he “ghosts” them, in contemporary terminology.
But once an agent, always an agent. They might let your leash out a bit if they don’t really need you at the moment, but they have many ways to make a negligent agent heel when needed.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 22 2024 14:23 utc | 275

@ Debsisdead | May 22 2024 6:00 utc | 225
thanks.. i share your view…. i believe @ Jake Blanchard shares a similar viewpoint… to me, it doesn’t matter if carlson is cia or not.. carlsons info is helpful in bringing these perspectives to a larger crowd who might not have considered an ”alternative viewpoint”…
@ William Gruff | May 22 2024 14:23 utc | 275
what does it matter either way??

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 15:07 utc | 276

reply to 210
Is seeking the perfect the enemy of the improved? War is nasty, hellish stuff. Since the US is incapable of staying away from pointless, futile conflicts and since voters have no say in Perpetual War policies of the US, I think paying for mercenaries might be the way to go – if it supplants the nonsense they’ve done throughout the world.
Suppose the whole Ukr. proxy war was just Blackwater being paid? Probably less cost in both lives and money.
I am appalled by the cavalier way in which the US jumps into wars with no vote by Congress. OTOH, the Constitution does allow ‘Letters of Reprisal and Marque’ which seem much more limited to me. Using those would be explicit, not this shadowy nonsense.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 22 2024 15:13 utc | 277

Hence again, I fail to see how, if Carlson was some CIA spook, such simplemindedness would serve his masters’ purposes. CIA, my arse.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 12:09 utc | 269
Perhaps your arse IS CIA. Of course, then you’d probably understand that a sheepdog has to get out in front of the sheep to guide them in other directions. And you might possibly understand that there is a war raging in the American PTB between people who want a world that they can control and exploit (which requires that the world continue to exist) and those that are so ideologically committed to obsolete plans and tactics that they create a very real risk that the world will end. Hard to make a profit then, but if you’re riding that mushroom cloud into the warm embrace of the Almighty, I suppose that doesn’t matter.
Of course, if you are among the lesser sheepdogs, admitting that you know these things would make it hard to do your job.
And, just in case you really ‘fail to see,’ try to remember that your lack of ability to understand it doesn’t say anything about the truth of a proposition.

Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 15:27 utc | 278

@ Honzo | May 22 2024 15:27 utc | 278
what is it about the erik prince commentary that you didn’t want published or heard?? regardless if carlson, jake or whoever is cia – what does it matter in this respect?? thanks..

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 15:54 utc | 279

Tom Q. Collins @4:17
NOT intentional. Was doing a lot of writing last night and sometimes synapses slip. Apology for the miss-take.

Posted by: aristodemos | May 22 2024 15:59 utc | 280

IMO… the next frontal space will be opened further Northwest in the Sumy region
Posted by: karlof1 | May 21 2024 15:29 utc | 62

But … but … but … it’s a stalemate! We’ve been assured of this for months! It’s a stalemate! How can Russia open new fronts if it’s a stalemate?! How dare Russia not abide by the narrative! See how evil Putin is ?!

Posted by: The Owl | May 22 2024 16:09 utc | 281

james @276: “what does it matter either way??”
You are right, it doesn’t really matter. People should treat all geopolitical info with healthy skepticism given the $billions spent on disinfo, whether it comes across the Internet or (especially) if it comes from traditional mass media. I’m not saying disbelieve everything, but rather do run everything through your own personal bullshit detector.
Tucker Carlson isn’t revealing anything regulars here don’t know, but he is leaking some truth to a huge audience. Let’s respect that without pretending he is stainless.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 22 2024 17:02 utc | 282

Though I’m late to the party, some words on Tucker Carlson / Eric Prince:
It’s no secret in this bar that Trump & Co. want to end US engagement in Ukraine asap and dump it on the EUropeans – either to “focus on China”, or simply because it’s a lost cause. So I’m kind of amazed that “Trump supporters saying Trumpist things” leads to such a heated debate.
Prince voices some obvious truisms – but doing so only now is rather cheap. Firstly, it’s election season, and secondly, who could seriously argue otherwise?
The Biden side isn’t blind either, but has invested too much over the last years to do a 180 in public.
If Trump gets elected, he can easily make a ‘clean cut’ and walk away, to the delight of the “deep state” (a.k.a. capital). If Biden wins, he’ll have to change his entire foreign policy team.

The likely next new front would be Sumy, which puts Kiev into play. That would absolutely panic Ukrainian leadership, and stretch the lines further.
James M. | May 21 2024 23:35 utc | 161
Down South | May 22 2024 6:18 utc | 227
Sumy seems the most probable new front, it’s what everybody expects.
However, Kherson has also been mentioned as an option. It would force AFU to send reinforcements to the other end of the front line – before chasing them up north again… But crossing the Dniepr is difficult and costly; doing so in a purely diversionary attack seems a waste of resources.

Posted by: smuks | May 22 2024 18:41 utc | 283

@ Honzo | May 22 2024 15:27 utc | 278
what is it about the erik prince commentary that you didn’t want published or heard?? regardless if carlson, jake or whoever is cia – what does it matter in this respect?? thanks..
Posted by: james | May 22 2024 15:54 utc | 279
I said nothing of the sort. Have you stopped jacking off in church?
I addressed the issue of Carlson’s connection with the CIA and the deep state. What is it about that you don’t want people to know?

Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 19:10 utc | 284

@ Honzo | May 22 2024 19:10 utc | 284
why is it necessary to say stupid shit in a derogatory manner as you have?? you offer some great insights, but they are marred by your response here.. why is it so important to focus on the person – carlson, in this context?? it sounded to me that was more important to you then what prince had to say..

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 19:32 utc | 285

@ William Gruff | May 22 2024 17:02 utc | 282
thanks william… a thoughtful and reasonable response.. i appreciate it..

Posted by: james | May 22 2024 19:33 utc | 286

Prince voices some obvious truisms – but doing so only now is rather cheap. Firstly, it’s election season, and secondly, who could seriously argue otherwise?
Posted by: smuks | May 22 2024 18:41 utc | 283
——-
You write as if Prince wanted to say these things. Wrong. It was CARLSON wanting to say those things, again, now, as an election looms, and using an INVITED guest to do so. Anything to kick Biden and the Dems. It’s just Carlson’s day job. He could have editorialised exactly the same words, but an ex-MIC operative gives it more kudos and provides for a variation in guests’ faces. It’s as simple as that.
And it’s not about arguing the fact, or even publicising it to the choir. It’s about saturating the anti-Dem airwaves. That’s all.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 21:31 utc | 287

Honzo | May 22 2024 15:27 utc | 278
– Still not addressing the issue of HOW the CIA gains from Carlson’s wilful media disruption and relentless Biden-Dem-bashing.
– And if we take as a given that Carlson is an avowed Trumpist, how does THAT match with any PTB/CIA vision for America, 2025?
– Strawmen and tangents galore (sheepdogs? End of the world? ).
– I’ve concluded (admittedly a bit late to the party) that you’re a just an angry, paranoid, ideologue, far-leftist loony. So farewell.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 21:46 utc | 288

Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 21:31 utc | 287
Weird argument. Obviously Carlson wanted this to be said (on his show), and Prince wanted to say it, or else he would’ve declined the invitation. Electioneering, pointing out apparent failures of Biden’s foreign policy. If Trump was president, would they be talking this way? Highly doubt it.
Also, I answered your questions @Honzo (with whom I agree, even if I pick a somewhat different angle).

Posted by: smuks | May 22 2024 22:05 utc | 289

It seems obvious that you do not know what an intelligence agency agent is. An agent is not a formal employee of the agency, secret or otherwise.
Posted by: William Gruff | May 22 2024 14:23 utc | 275
Indeed, and they are almost exclusively foreign – at least in terms of how the US runs its intelligence agencies. The CIA only deals with foreign assets and intelligence. There’s another organization that deals with domestic intelligence, its called the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigations). Their “agents” though are called confidential informants (CIs) and infiltrate domestic organizations like the KKK, Mafia, etc.
I don’t know where this Tucker Carlson is a CIA asset nonsense comes from. Because he once applied for the agency thirty plus years ago? He was applying for an analyst job, a desk jockey. Lots of people apply for those jobs, most of them are rejected, they aren’t picked up later as an “asset.” Because his daddy was once a political appointee of the very minor Voice of America, that predates the CIA, and is actually a separate government organization? There’s some serious problems with casualty, not to mention even correlation, there.

Posted by: James M. | May 22 2024 22:11 utc | 290

Tucker Carlson is 100% certain a CIA agent.
But once an agent, always an agent.
William Gruff | May 22 2024 14:23 utc | 275

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 22:14 utc | 291

IT’S PURE UNFOUNDED FANTASY CONSPIRACY STUFF.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | May 22 2024 22:14 utc | 291
You really have no idea about what ‘deep state’ means, do you? Or what ‘covert’ means. Concepts you might want to research include ‘sheepdogging,’ ‘limited hangout,’ ‘co-opting the narrative,’ and ‘follow the money.’ I’ve already pointed out some very obvious connections, and in earlier posts I’ve discussed ‘grooming’ as it applies to operatives of the PTB. I’m not going to do it again, but if you’re not a troll you should be able to figure it out. Ignoring history does not keep it from being history.

Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 22:40 utc | 292

You really have no idea about what ‘deep state’ means, do you? Or what ‘covert’ means. Concepts you might want to research include ‘sheepdogging,’ ‘limited hangout,’ ‘co-opting the narrative,’ and ‘follow the money.’
Posted by: Honzo | May 22 2024 22:40 utc | 292
Correlation and causation are more important. Correlation does not equal causation, and you don’t even have correlation. You have a bunch of random, spurious claims that only make sense to a very cluttered and disorganized mind. Occam’s Razor is a good rule of thumb to follow.

Posted by: James M. | May 22 2024 23:35 utc | 293

Carlson/Eric/k thing is for domestic consumption.
“Deep State” is a collection of the various “crazies” in the basement.
This is an attempt by one of the factions having a go at the other pro Ukrainian factions impeding plans for China/BRICS/Iran or other nefarious deeds.
The assumption for me personally is that if you are a regular here, none of what both have to say about Ukraine are relevant or “news”.
Why is this taking up so much space and effort? Go figure!

Posted by: Suresh | May 23 2024 3:05 utc | 294

Re TC:
Fox is not dissident right but mainstream, compliant right. “Conservatives”. They salute; they serve; they follow. Decent people if a tad jingoistic etc.
However, a slight majority of the ‘right’ are now those who will vote for Trump, listen to Bannon’s War Room and believe the Deep State has captured the Republic. For this population, Fox News doesn’t cut it. Tucker, by catering for them was disturbing/perturbing/awakening FN’s core, complacent constituency. Not good.
By catering to I mean helps to make feel normal in a way that doesn’t rock the boat; they might get riled up a little about abortion or whatever, but nothing truly revolutionary. The reality presented is workable, familiar.
So now Tucker is acting as ‘limited hangout’ host for the red-pilled right, the ones for whom Jesse Walters and the Fox Blonds aren’t edgy enough. Tucker is in with Alex Jones, his draw dropping with equal measure of naivete and respect at all the right places. That TC is including Alex in the universe of the respectable is a way of ensuring that this target audience also won’t be organizing a revolution. Because the news screen is where all such impulses go to die. Moreover, now they feel included in TC’s normalcy embrace.
This is Limited Hangout. He is a good writer who puts on some excellent interviews, but he can’t go beyond quantum with Terrence Howard like Joe Rogan, or deep into the Amazon like Lex Fridman with Paul Rosolie. (Less political limited hangouts.)

Posted by: scorpion | May 23 2024 3:25 utc | 295

Try this instead.
https://rumble.com/v4wox9c-crosstalk-rocking-out-in-kiev.html

Posted by: Suresh | May 23 2024 3:25 utc | 296

Suresh 294
regarding my ‘confusion’ about the Tucker Carlsson and Erik Prince interview – my earlier comment created a long discussion (Jake Blanchard Honzo and many others) –
My take on thoughts of these esteemed commenters is thatt most of the comments are to some extent correct, (think of blind men trying to understand the shape of an elephant by touching the animal).
I agree with your take – that there are multiple factions in the ‘deep state’ – which means that the deep state is in process of disintegration, lacking unity. Meaning that Putin’s words to Tucker about taking his (Putins) thoughts back to his people were directed to all these factions, that was the logic for the very public interview granted to a person like Carlson.
Here we come to Lavrov’s statement that USA is ‘nedogovorsposobny’.

Posted by: fanto | May 23 2024 3:35 utc | 297