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May 10, 2024
A Pessimistic Economist Laments The End Of Order

The magazine for and by multi-millionaires and billionaires, The Economist, warns that the end is imminent:

The liberal international order is slowly coming apart – (archived)
Its collapse could be sudden and irreversible

For years the order that has governed the global economy since the second world war has been eroded. Today it is close to collapse. A worrying number of triggers could set off a descent into anarchy, where might is right and war is once again the resort of great powers. Even if it never comes to conflict, the effect on the economy of a breakdown in norms could be fast and brutal.

It is, in my view, true that the 'liberal international order', which after World War II largely regulated world trade and politics is in demise.

But who's fault is that?

The examples The Economist gives to support its central claim point to one culpable nation:

As we report, the disintegration of the old order is visible everywhere. Sanctions are used four times as much as they were during the 1990s; America has recently imposed “secondary” penalties on entities that support Russia’s armies. A subsidy war is under way, as countries seek to copy China’s and America’s vast state backing for green manufacturing. Although the dollar remains dominant and emerging economies are more resilient, global capital flows are starting to fragment, as our special report explains.

The institutions that safeguarded the old system are either already defunct or fast losing credibility. The World Trade Organisation turns 30 next year, but will have spent more than five years in stasis, owing to American neglect. The IMF is gripped by an identity crisis, caught between a green agenda and ensuring financial stability. The un security council is paralysed. And, as we report, supranational courts like the International Court of Justice are increasingly weaponised by warring parties. Last month American politicians including Mitch McConnell, the leader of Republicans in the Senate, threatened the International Criminal Court with sanctions if it issues arrest warrants for the leaders of Israel, which also stands accused of genocide by South Africa at the International Court of Justice.

It is the U.S., the country which arguably benefited the most from the liberal international order, which is actively destroying it.

Others, if they did not attract random U.S. rage and war against them, also saw some benefits from it. Those small to medium countries will most likely lose out should the current regime collapse.

That would not be unprecedented:

Unfortunately, history shows that deeper, more chaotic collapses are possible—and can strike suddenly once the decline sets in. The first world war killed off a golden age of globalisation that many at the time assumed would last for ever. In the early 1930s, following the onset of the Depression and the Smoot-Hawley tariffs, America’s imports collapsed by 40% in just two years. In August 1971 Richard Nixon unexpectedly suspended the convertibility of dollars into gold; only 19 months later, the Bretton Woods system of fixed-exchange rates fell apart.

Similar ruptures, like the examples above again caused by the U.S., may happen soon.

Interestingly the Economist does not name a solution or way to avoid it. It sees a collapse coming, blames -more or less- the U.S. for causing it, but does not point to way out of it.

That is an uncharacteristically pessimistic view for writers who otherwise like to paint a positive picture for those with big money.

Comments

Could be also because the site is not https…
Posted by: Naive | May 10 2024 23:18 utc | 96
On that note, some years back, I would have started digging into https. But not up to that sort of research anymore. I now just watch with wonder from within the collapsing five-eyes anglo American empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:32 utc | 101

But will it end for the monied class? No, and I guess we know that. They covered up their greed, mendacious and edacious, during the existence of the USSR and the working class were lulled into a false sense of security. The rot began with globalisation and then, with the dissolution of the USSR, it was all over. Still China and communism are blamed for all the ills of the West not the Wests’ feeble governance. It won’t be anarchy for most of the ROW. They have been living with, or the threat of, anarchy for decades – maybe they will get peace and constructive change.

Posted by: Inki | May 10 2024 23:34 utc | 102

Don Firineach | May 10 2024 23:28 utc | 98
The ‘West’ can only project as it has zero understanding of other peoples, other cultures.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:35 utc | 103

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 10 2024 23:28 utc | 98
1. Bullshit. The cynics are on the other side.
2. Poor countries closing the gap? Like in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Irak, Libya, Syria, or Ukraine, etc. What about countries like France becoming poorer?

Posted by: Naive | May 10 2024 23:38 utc | 104

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:35 utc | 103
What a stupid comment.

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105

In the other case that he dies suddenly, I assume there would be a line of succession similar to what the US has?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:26 utc | 97
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According to the Russian Federation constitution, the PM (Mishustin) would become president.

Posted by: malenkov | May 10 2024 23:43 utc | 106

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:35 utc | 103
What a stupid comment.
Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105
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I think it’s a rhetorical exaggeration of an unwritten law: The “subordinate” culture understands the “dominant” culture more than the latter does the former. Otherwise the “subordinate” culture would be subject to further subjugation, or would simply not survive.

Posted by: malenkov | May 10 2024 23:48 utc | 107

malenkov | May 10 2024 23:43 utc | 106
Thanks. Similar/same to Yeltsin Putin. Yeltsin went through a lot of PM’s looking for a successor. Somebody that had the capability and nous to take Russia to where he wanted it to be.
I can’t blame Russians that went through the nineties for hating Yeltsin, but that one decision of his, his ability to pick out someone who could lead the Russian federation into the future after the collapse of the Soviet Union was second to none. His speech when he handed over power to Putin had a lot of meaning. Putin attended his funeral but not that of Gorbachev.
A lot of depth in Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:57 utc | 108

Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105
Projection is a problem. You try to project your intellectual capabilities onto me.
What nationality is your username?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:00 utc | 109

Posted by: vargas | May 10 2024 17:56 utc | 57
If I remember Capital Vol I, Marx talks about the business cycle and its last stage in finance capital dominates. That’s where we’ve been for two generations. After that last stage comes some kind of liquidation/depression/war.
We’re getting there. The poor Moor did not envisage the destruction of the environment.

Posted by: JAB | May 11 2024 0:08 utc | 110

If we are talking about the “rules-based order”, we are talking about a top-down, CENTRALIZED system.
Forces of capitalism may control this system in the end, but they are two different things we are discussing (players in capitalism and the concept of capitalism).
The players, in the end, get to decide what direction they wish to take this system and as numerous posters made mention above, the GFC of 2008 was the grand and final litmus test of where they would take the top-down, full-retard, full spectrum dominance attempt at a rules-based order.
And what was the content of the test? It was, do we let capitalism exist and therefore let go of the reins whereby we would lose centralized control, the money printing option would no longer work, and fair-price discovery would result? Or, do we have some patsy/scapegoats lined up, throw a band-aid on it, and pretend like nothing happened?
The former would have made both the managerial and upper-classes wholly-destitute, and so this was a non-starter.
T.A.R.P. and the ensuing policy of the west may have worked provided they could enforce full spectrum dominance. Russia, China, and Iran kept their mouth close and saw their chance and have been biding their time, knowing where spirit is now inhabitating.
Spirit has a way. Spirit is way. And it laughs at the best laid plans of mice and men.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 11 2024 0:09 utc | 111

Of course it’s the role of the Chinese state under the leadership of the 90 million plus CP that is responsible for this remarkable accomplishment. The great country of India was just as involved in the blessings of liberal capitalism and, no, the results were not the same as in China.
China 1 Economist 0.
Posted by: N Hanrahan | May 10 2024 17:01 utc | 48
Exactly: the CCP might have virtually enslaved a generation to take over the manufacturing of the US, but it was servitude to a greater end: the combined and uneven development of Chinese manufacture and economic power.
Every tin pot dictator enslaves its captive population, but that money goes into Swiss bank accounts. There’s no development; there’s no future.
And the comparison of India and China is apt.

Posted by: JAB | May 11 2024 0:12 utc | 112

I’m a citizen of the US. We do have other choices. I was already going to vote for Jill Stein, but, after the way she was manhandled in St. Louis, I am more determined to vote for her than ever.
She won’t win, but every vote that she gets is a vote against genocide.

Posted by: Lysias | May 11 2024 0:13 utc | 113

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:00 utc | 109
Why is the ‘nationality’ of my username important to you?

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 11 2024 0:13 utc | 114

Siddhartha | May 11 2024 0:13 utc | 114
Why is it important you must keep it hidden?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:15 utc | 115

An Indian novel. Wanker.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:20 utc | 116

F Troop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDx7Q-6y-c

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:32 utc | 117

Siddhartha was the personal name of the Buddha. Siddhartha Gautama. A Sanskrit name. The earliest texts in the Buddhist canon, which may convey teachings of the Buddha himself, are written in the Pali language, which is different from but derived from Sanskrit.
The Buddha seems to have been born in and brought up in what is now Nepal, but he soon moved to what is now India, and that is where the religion based on his teachings first flourished.
“Siddhartha” is also the title of a novel in German by Hermann Hesse, who was born in Germany but lived much of his life in Switzerland.

Posted by: Lysias | May 11 2024 0:36 utc | 118

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:20 utc | 116
As Mark Twain said – ‘Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level…’.

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 11 2024 0:44 utc | 119

karlof1 | May 10 2024 23:16 utc | 94
Thanks for your answer.
Ryabkov and Nebenzya would undoubtedly make very good FMs – but they’ll be 70 and 68 yo in 2030… Not impossible, but wouldn’t it make sense to pick someone a bit younger, if available?
Mishustin seems kind of bland – but so did Putin when he came to office. Wasn’t aware of Golikova, had been wondering about the current minister of economic development, Reshetnikov (born 1979, too young). Maybe modernizing the economy will be the main priority for any post-2030 president & government?
Excuse my ignorance, but I’m quite unaware of the ‘post-2030 agenda’ you mention. Would appreciate a link – thanks in advance!

Posted by: smuks | May 11 2024 0:45 utc | 120

Siddhartha | May 11 2024 0:44 utc | 119
I wonder what Twain’s views were on people hiding behind usernames.
“Samuel Langhorne Clemens (November 30, 1835 – April 21, 1910),[1] known by the pen name Mark Twain,”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 0:48 utc | 121

Yes, indeed. In a country where there should be NO billionaires
“The American Monied Class killed the American Working man. “Free Trade” they bellowed as factory after factory closed and American Capital relocated into Mexico and China.”
I’ve lived long enough now to recall when factory after factory shut down here in the US as Clinton sold us out to China and gutted welfare programs to the mere husks they are today..
I had an interesting conversation with my therapist the other day about “when” the US REALLY began its decline. Aside from some obvious events such as the above, if one is paying attention, it’s not just been one single event but many, but one of the biggest was the advent of social media,the endless ware for profit (money laundering on steroids), while the education system in the US and a heavy dose of MORAL decline, all combined to dumb down the population into consuming, narcissistic, LOOK AT ME, ME, ME! American hoards that vote the same..
Is it all too surprising that this collapse is upon us?
We are not a reflection of the political psychopaths, making horrendous, sickening genocidal choices, they are a reflection of US.
When the American public gets a clue and decides they’ve had enough of all of this utter nonsense (part of that nonsense being pathological lying MSM propaganda), maybe things will chamge, however, I think it will take a major crises to wake people up from their consuming slumber, after all the Fed money printer can’t keep doing this forever and the war machine is but a 1/4 of what it once was.
So economic collapse or WW3 that the elites will push us into in order to cover up their incompetence, years of theft and grift and other assorted and many crimes.
But if the scamdemic taught me anything is that Americans will fall for the next crisis, and no punishment will be forthcoming.
The folks behind the economist have nothing to worry about from the American hoards.
Sorry, something about GENOCIDE just doesn’t sit right with me..

Posted by: Kay | May 11 2024 0:49 utc | 122

@phenon | May 10 2024 20:46 utc
Phenon: I hope you’ll develop this topic more (What Kennan theorized about the fundamental cultural problems of the West).
What we’re seeing (in U.S. behaviors) is evidence of a cultural problem: we’ve chosen the wrong values, and let ourselves be seduced by the comfortable.
This is a common problem among rich societies, and we (the U.S.) did _not_ dodge that bullet.
What we’re seeing in Russia and China is the willingness to do the difficult, over a long period of time, in the face of vicious opposition. Both societies did their own version of the Long March.
Rich societies can’t do that, generally. If they (ever, really) had it, over times of easiness, they lost it.
Phenon, tell us more about what Kennan advocated for, please.
== and to the bar, all you wonderful historians and commentators on all things not-US-culture:
What, culturally, (values widely held, behaviors which implement the values) is so different between China, Russia, Iran, etc. .vs. the U.S.?
What is the essence, the core, of the cultural navigational heading between these “multi-polar” entities?
Isn’t that cultural navigational heading the determinant of the different future(s)?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 1:03 utc | 123

Usernames… Some use their given names, some use there full names, some use a term that has much meaning to them, and others use it as an adult diaper (american lingo), something to be discarded once they have shit in it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:07 utc | 124

Posted by: Lysias | May 11 2024 0:36 utc | 118
‘Siddhartha’ – A novel everyone should read.

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 11 2024 1:13 utc | 125

@ Siddhartha | May 11 2024 0:44 utc | 119
well peter definitely ain’t stupid, but then neither are you.. siddartha is a hermann hesse book that i have yet to read and would like to..

Posted by: james | May 11 2024 1:21 utc | 126

@Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:35 utc | 103
Ethnocentric also. View others only from the prism of their own culture, belief systems, interests and ways of being. Ergo, culturally ignorant which leads to disastrous decision making and flawed interpretations of the Other’s actions.
Examples too numerous to mention.
#1 During the Zulu wars the English Press reported on the savagery and butchery of the Zulu as they sliced, ‘mutilated’ the term used, the tummies of the dead Tommies with their assegai.
The Zulu have always, at least since the time of Mezilikazi, sliced the tummies of their dead enemies to release their spirits. Also made sense in a hot climate. For the Zulu, the slicing was a mark of respect.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 11 2024 1:22 utc | 127

‘Siddhartha’ – A novel everyone should read.
Posted by: Siddhartha | May 11 2024 1:13 utc | 125
Fiction?
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2500

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:24 utc | 128

@Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105
Projection is a psychological term – and relevant here.
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
The concept emerged from Sigmund Freud’s work on defense mechanisms and was further refined by his daughter, Anna Freud, and other prominent figures in psychology.
One can also refer to ‘ethnocentric projection’ which I think is more- as in example#1 on my #98
sussed by naive @104 and Peter from Oz @103

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 11 2024 1:30 utc | 129

Don Firineach | May 11 2024 1:22 utc | 127
Interesting. I have noticed in reading old diaries, the difference in cultures marking respect for the dead or otherwise.
Something that covers all cultures is the belief in this thing called spirit. The body may die but the spirit does not.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:32 utc | 130

@ james | May 11 2024 1:21 utc | 126
I’ve read it – but many moons ago. I know precisely where it is (unlike Wittgenstein’s Poker which I’m trying to find to re-read) …
But I’m not sure that I remember it – drat – why don’t our brains have a handy search function like our hard drives – must get onto Musk. So Hesse now added to my list …

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 11 2024 1:40 utc | 131

The economist does point the finger at amerika when it discusses how amerika has been abusing its veto power in the WTO to block appointments to the WTO’s appeals/enforcement mechanism. That means that all the illegal sanctions ie ones which lack UN motions of support such as the thousands imposed on the Russian Federation since late 2021, cannot be overturned and the Russian Federation awarded compensation as would normally happen.
However this is nothing new as england used to pull the same stunts with its tariffs and trade bans until it lost control in the Great European War of 1914 to 1945 when amerika scooped up the baton. Just as Spain before that, eventually interrupted by england’s government policy of piracy on the high seas. In fact it is possible to trace these ‘might is right’ struggles for international power all the way back to societies first becoming ‘civilised’.
The cycle of the rise and fall of dominant powers along with the myriad injustices which always accompany them has been longer than a couple of lifetimes up until this last one. Even so the cycle has been sufficiently slow for it to resemble the hour hand on an analog watch; that is fast enough to show there has been movement over time but movement so slow it is indetectable to the eye. This is how the cycle is ‘sold’ to the masses – it requires no selling because most often it passes un-noticed subsumed under the distraction of the inevitable wars, famine and other horrors which accompany these cyclical changes.
Exactly the same will happen again should this cycle complete & a new one begin without global nuclear destruction (about 50:50 given elites ignorant indifference to the ‘real’ world particularly in later stages of these cycles). Oh I know that for many the very notion of V. Putin or Xi Jinping contemplating such a thing will raise howls of protest and the objections may well well be correct, for those two.
However by now most of us are in agreement with the concept that “Power corrupts” and that is precisely what will happen if BRICS+ group gains ultimate control of the world economy. The corruption will not begin at the center, it rarely does, slowly though corruption from the fringes maybe a local body councillor greasing the wheels for a family member’s business interests being rewarded with jewellery for a spouse or a holiday will occur so often as to be regarded as normal behaviour, merely one of the ‘perks’ of office, until corruption does creep to the top.
There is little we the people, can do to prevent such exploitation of office, most usually because when a politician does get caught with his/her hand in the cookie jar, the minor corrupt action will be weighed against “all the good” the miscreant is alleged to have done, so the old boys/girls network steps in and protects him/her, at which most citizens will feel ‘fair enough’.
The problem lies in the structure of our political systems which, as I have incessantly pointed out here over the decades, is always some type of pyramidical configuration with some small primary number usually 1 person at the top. We know the rest of that ancient saw “Power corrupts” it is “and absolute power corrupts absolutely” making the eventual corruption of the most carefully monitored pyramidical structure an inevitability.
There is no way to avoid this. As long as we allow any formal structure like this assume power over ourself, our region/town, province/state, nation or association of nations, their takeover by a corrupting elite will always occur.
IMO that means we must design a better structure of government, one that is much flatter and more diverse than any which have proceeded it, before a replacement is put in place.
That in turn means having a liberation that is leaderless, willingly and publicly so.
I may have a few ideas about that because I have mulled on this for most of my existence but for obvious reasons the structure and make up of such an organisation must be determined then designed by many humans from as broad a range of beliefs and standpoints as possible.
That is something which has been previously attempted but as far as I know never successfully as it crashes of the reef of heretic! counter-revolutionary!, or equivalent cliched prejudice.
I’m certain that in a world environment where disseminating ideas to most is possible, once people considered the history of their people as they knew it plus the history of others, particularly oppressors that they too would conclude such a shift where true power is devolved to each and every one of themis vastly preferable to any other model.
Of course in most cases, busy humans are only concerned about issues which they think will directly effect themselves. Nothing wrong with that, this is normal human behaviour but this is one of the most important issues to resolve; how to build a flat structure representative of as many views as possible without it becoming a self interest changing of the guard bandwagon.
It may be as simple as a lottery system where humans are randomly selected as decision makers but for extremely short terms, much as jury selection should be but without any exemptions permitted. I dunno, that is the point, we (meaning all of us humans) badly need an alternative structure designed by ‘the many’ for ‘the even more’ humans.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 11 2024 1:42 utc | 132

Finding both you, psychohistorian | May 10 2024 17:41 utc | 54, and Grieved a few posts earlier, on this thread; and having respect for others listening to and understanding Michael Hudson, I find some comfort in knowing that I do not know about such matters, so cannot do more than passively support what you have to say. I do not aspire to understand, just to not get in the way. I don’t want myself or my kin to be wealthy, just to do positive things for however a transition may be managed while power diminishes at the elite level, since hopefully that will be happening whist we lesser mortals minimally tread water and let it. Thank you all. I think many will be as I am, and that is a good thing. We also serve who only stand and wait (according to Milton ‘On his blindness’)

Posted by: juliania | May 11 2024 1:48 utc | 133

What, culturally, (values widely held, behaviors which implement the values) is so different between China, Russia, Iran, etc. .vs. the U.S.?
What is the essence, the core, of the cultural navigational heading between these “multi-polar” entities?
Isn’t that cultural navigational heading the determinant of the different future(s)?
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 1:03 utc | 123
Start with Radical Individualism [US] vs Collectivism [China, RF]
Or Market vs State
It is worth noting that the individual only emerges from within a collective. So Individual good vs Collective good.
Whither the Priority?

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 11 2024 1:48 utc | 134

‘Siddhartha’ – A novel everyone should read.
Posted by: Siddhartha | May 11 2024 1:13 utc | 125
Fiction?
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2500
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:24 utc | 128
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I once knew a professor of German Lit who said that Hesse’s novels were excellent reading — for precocious adolescent boys. I don’t remember *Siddhartha* but I once had to choke down *Der Steppenwolf* and found myself agreeing with the old guy — the prof, not Hesse.
Hesse did write some lovely atmospheric poetry though.

Posted by: malenkov | May 11 2024 1:49 utc | 135

Debsisdead | May 11 2024 1:42 utc | 132
I respect you a lot but you are wrapped in synthetic human social structure theories.
You have been in an aboriginal community, in what you have written in the past display some understanding, yet at the same time trying to convert them to your ideology.
Humans are not synthetic and cannot live according to synthetic ideologies.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:53 utc | 136

@ Don Firineach | May 11 2024 1:40 utc | 131
a copy of the book was given to me a few months ago and it is up in the line up and soon to be read.. i will let you know what i discover..
@ Debsisdead | May 11 2024 1:42 utc | 132
noble thoughts debs… i wonder if humanity is ready for such a thing? it certainly is needed, but seems like a faraway idea at this point..

Posted by: james | May 11 2024 1:53 utc | 137

Someone wrote that China has a fascist regime.
Imo the fascist is the one who wrote that.
Posted by: Naive | May 10 2024 23:29 utc | 100
In a limited sense, China’s system does meet Mussolini’s brief description of Facism: “Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
Yet China fails in many ways to meet Mussolini’s broader explanation, which is linked below.
https://sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/2B-HUM/Readings/The-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

Posted by: Ciaran | May 11 2024 1:54 utc | 138

: Ciaran | May 11 2024 1:54 utc | 138
Another idiot. A methane source.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:59 utc | 139

@Siddhartha, who opined that:

‘Siddhartha’ – A novel everyone should read.

In addition to Siddhartha (written in 1922), many of us could benefit from reading Hesse’s other novels, including Journey to the East (1932), Narcissus and Goldmun (1930), Demian (1917), and Steppenwolf, just to name a few of the ones I’ve read.
All of these novels deal with the struggle to develop one’s identity, and … this will surprise you, of course … how to step outside the confines of the dominant culture of your day, and set your own course.
Consider that Hesse was writing at the time of great cultural upheaval in Germany.
Take a look at the bio about Hesse, and ask yourself: Was he not grappling with the issues of Western society, the very ones we see playing out before us now?
Hesse also offered the West a glimpse into the East (hence “Siddhartha”, and “Journey to the East”).
Note also that Hesse was operating in Germany right about the time of Germany’s fateful decisions about who to become as a modern German society.
Hesse started writing about 1900, and died in the early 1960s. He was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1946.
You can’t help wondering what would have become of Germany if more Germans were contemplating Hesse’s work in those fateful decades between 1900 and 1930.
A great opportunity missed. I wonder if, how, and when Germany will get another chance at the Table of Fates.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 2:01 utc | 140

He was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1946.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 2:01 utc | 140

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:09 utc | 141

Personal experiences, memoirs, diarys have meaning. Fiction does not.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:15 utc | 142

Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:15 utc
Peter: Hesse is writing about his experiences; it’s just not written as autobiography. Read his bio, and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
So how come you say fiction has no meaning? I’m puzzled by that. “Stories” about “others” as central character have great impact. Think about all the stuff Shakespeare wrote, and the impact it had on the people that read him. No autobiography there, but a person that delivered powerful messages and lessons to society … thru fiction.
OK, I’m saying what you already know. Tell me where I’m not grasping your meaning.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 2:34 utc | 143

Tell me where I’m not grasping your meaning.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 2:34 utc | 143
You could well be right Tom but I am at the stage I have no time for fiction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:37 utc | 144

Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:37 utc | 144
In fact I stopped reading fiction in my early twenties.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 2:42 utc | 145

Spirit has a way. Spirit is way. And it laughs at the best laid plans of mice and men.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 11 2024 0:09 utc | 111
I will offer this, NemesisCalling: that from my own experience, even a rules based order, such as currently being used for the practice of medicine has to be flexible enough to bend the rules when it is a question of being paid for services or not being paid at all. Certainly, sometimes one alternative is draconian, but in that case both providee and provider lose, as the latter faces diminishing chances for reparation. The other alternative, to favor the providee with a flexible repayment scheme and less outrageous profiteering worked in my case better than if I had gone into debt seeking to comply with the rules. I wonder, if enough cases such as this are occurring, eventually the rules might eventually soften into more practical and sensible laws.
I know, optimist me. But I do see Putin, time and again, responding to a citizen’s observation of how a rule isn’t working for them in the Russian system by words to the effect that the problem will be looked at and a better solution found, instead of just ignoring it as western leaders seem determined to do. It does seem obvious Putin’s is the better approach.

Posted by: juliania | May 11 2024 3:05 utc | 146

Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 1:53 utc | 136 who slanderously alleged “You have been in an aboriginal community, in what you have written in the past display some understanding, yet at the same time trying to convert them to your ideology.” when if you had read anything at all of what I posted about involvement in indigenous Australian communities you would have grokked that that is the last thing me or my colleagues attempted to do. Read Nugget Coombs, always a good starting point and heed the litany of failure that accompanied attempts to ‘civilise’ a people who have been a damn sight more civilised towards each other for 40,000 years than whitefellas have ever been.
That is the point we started from no preaching, lecturing or haranguing but being a resource for the community council meetings we attended by never volunteering ideas but just providing information to Council elders on potential methods they could use to achieve a particular aim be it delivery of health services, community housing or garbage collection. We never proposed solutions we used our knowledge of canberra’s bureaucracy to enable something they believed their community required.
The methods we concentrated on were ones that involved community members the most in their delivery, never using whitefella contractors but hiring carpenters for building homes through the community councils on the proviso that they trained local fellas while they built.
Health issues were resolved by working with Commonwealth & NT health where we funded local women, often the community woman known for her midwifery skills to learn basics of diagnosis. Where that wasn’t possible (usually because of age and family committments) we would ask the local midwife to talk with other women in her clan and identify some younger types who wanted the health worker job. A local health center would be constructed and we would pay for the cost of training the staff who the community selected.
Then idiot racist critics who had whinged about us “converting them to our ideology” then whined like a stuck record about us “treating indigenous people like they were exhibits in a zoo”; they would complain that we were trying to “freeze the culture in aspic” when that was not what we were doing as virtually everything the community requested through their council was about change, change that they desired and asked us to assist with.
I dunno where yer inane dislike of what I post comes from whiner, but it is tiresome if only because it is so hackneyed, obvious and old.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 11 2024 3:20 utc | 147

finally, someone actually mentions the words, Ruling Class
something I so rarely see these days, either here or over at twitterland or anywhere…..geez
and you don’t even have to be a marxist to realize its meaning and import vis a vis the USA and its imperialism/neo-liberal domination of the post WWII order
“the order that has governed the global economy since the second world war” IS US imperialism
https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1788905678519611657
The sheer hubris of the US ruling class is astonishing… drunk on 80 years of hegemony and puffed up by privilege and exceptionalism, they are fundamentally incapable of understanding how the rest of the world sees them.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 11 2024 3:47 utc | 148

Peter AU 1 @ 141, 142:
The Nobel Prize in Literature is not only awarded for fictional literature. In the past it has been awarded to writers of non-fiction literature such as histories. The politician Winston Churchill won the Nobel Literature Prize in 1953 for his histories and (I believe) his speeches.
Also we need to be careful of what we call fiction (and dismiss as meaningless) and what we call non-fiction. Having worked in a public library in the past, I would say that a good number of non-fiction books, especially popular biographies and “autobiographies”, are actually fiction. Even a lot of history books, depending on their subject matter, surely qualify more as fiction than as non-fiction. Try walking into any public library in any part of Australia today, look at all the books on recent Russian, Chinese and Middle Eastern history, and tell me they are all meaningful works written by well-informed, rational scholars.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 11 2024 3:49 utc | 149

Whatever the pain of the coming collapse, it will be worth it if it ends US hegemony and gets rid of the 800 foreign US military bases around the world! Sadly, the US population is one of the most ignorant in the world, a world they know so little about and refuse to take the time to understand. The US ruling class is as dumb as they come, thick as bricks as we like to say in Oz, and the leadership of their puppet colonies is of an equally low standard.

Posted by: Brad Golding | May 11 2024 4:25 utc | 150

Well, I do like my sacrificial, fattened offerings to be well bled.
But the sacrificial blood of hating Amerika is only an offering to the dead statue of Mammon. Plus cha change , plus ch’est la fxxxing meme chose.
In order to see improvements, we need to be seeing sacrifices to the One, True Living Omniscient God. Allah.
And we need those sacrifices to be political, like the total scrapping of the defunct system of programmable democracy.
Otherwise all this faux rage against the Shity of London and its US equivalent in the Federal Reserve, is just like so many post-it notes in the wailing wall that the Mammon lottery spins my number morecfavourably next time round.
Please can we have a better world, not just another throw of the same old,same old corrupt world.

Posted by: Giyane | May 11 2024 5:12 utc | 151

Refinnejenna 149
Winston Churchill was an oil Ghoul.
His words written in red blood of Somalis Iraqis Libyans and now Gazans.
What do our leaders do with that oil?
The construct highways across the globe transferring the cheap produce from newly acquired colonies like Eastern Europe to break the agricultural economies of other European countries, killing the planet at the same time.
Can we not just un-Fiat all the Fiat money, and watch the bloated rich collapse into a shriveled piece of rubber? We really need crime and greed Not to pay for the world to survive.

Posted by: Giyane | May 11 2024 5:27 utc | 152

Below is a posting title from Xinhuanet that fits best, IMO , in this thread
Xi concludes Europe trip with clear message on fortifying cooperation
the quote

Macron, a prominent proponent of Europe’s strategic autonomy, stressed that France and the EU need to strengthen cooperation with China, as this bears on the future of Europe.
France hopes to enhance dialogue and cooperation with China, and strengthen mutual trust and friendship between France and China and also between the EU and China, he said.
France has for long advocated strategic autonomy for Europe, said Eric Alauzet, president of the France-China Friendship Group of the French National Assembly.
“That means not to fall back after the East-West confrontation … so this multipolarity, this multipolar, multilateral world is what China and France want in common,” said Alauzet.

Please note the use of the multipolar term that is totally missing from the Economist perspective.
That said, I have always seen Marcon as a clear mouthpiece for the God Of Mammon cult and so if he is mouthing multipolar then maybe it is a message that hegemony is being given up…..to some degree, begrudgingly, etc….grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 11 2024 6:23 utc | 153

If you are a billionaire, then “The Economist” article informs you American and European billionaires will be taken down a peg, and billionaires from the rest of the world will move up.
If you are not a billionaire but living in North America or Europe, the liberal world order coming apart means you will pay less taxes to a President in faraway Washington, who spends them on wars.

Posted by: Passerby | May 11 2024 7:28 utc | 154

🅰pocalypsis 🅰pocalypseos 🇷🇺 🇨🇳 🅉
@apocalypseos
“The vampire ball is ending.” — Putin
“The liberal international order is slowly coming apart. Its collapse could be sudden and irreversible.” — The Economist
……………

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 7:34 utc | 155

I dunno where yer inane dislike of what I post comes from whiner, but it is tiresome if only because it is so hackneyed, obvious and old.
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 11 2024 3:20 utc | 147
Somewhat thin skinned. My impression comes from what you wrote some years back. If you don’t like what you wrote then, don’t blame me.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 7:44 utc | 156

“But if the scamdemic taught me anything is that Americans will fall for the next crisis, and no punishment will be forthcoming.”
It seems like this still at the moment but punishment is coming – slowly. There are quite a few court cases etc. ICAN is involved in a – maybe it’s called a class action- in the US. And The Highwire has always been onto it. Chris Cuomo (New York media type) admitted he was wrong last week – now that he is vax damaged. Shame it took so long.
I was in New Delhi a while back and people from the US State Dept arrived at the hotel. It seems they were disturbed by the chaos that is New Delhi having just arrived from very orderly China. Preferred the command and controlled to the world’s largest democracy. I might be inclined to agree. An orderly rubbish collection is an imperative for me.

Posted by: Inki | May 11 2024 7:48 utc | 157

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 1:03 utc | 123

What we’re seeing (in U.S. behaviors) is evidence of a cultural problem: we’ve chosen the wrong values, and let ourselves be seduced by the comfortable.
This is a common problem among rich societies, and we (the U.S.) did _not_ dodge that bullet.

That’s a self-praising criticism (oh we are so rich and comfortable that’s our problem), not a realistic assessment. U.S.A. behaviors are the result of senescence, of ossified social mobility, of lack of competition, and depredation of elites on their subjects. Once the most vibrant and creative community in the world, has substantially deteriorated due to gross errors of management.

What we’re seeing in Russia and China is the willingness to do the difficult, over a long period of time, in the face of vicious opposition. Both societies did their own version of the Long March.

Nah, it’s just that they enjoy the vitality of young capitalist systems. Russia’s and China’s capitalism are a few decades old. Russia started poorly in the 90s but then a genious stateman came and corrected course. China had to endure the fanaticism of the Cultural Revolution but then Mao died and another genious stateman, Deng, came and corrected course.
The key factor is the vitality of the economy. The U.S.A. has run its course in its current configuration, it’s past its shelf lifetime, it needs a thorough re-shuffling (i.e. some sort of revolution) to recover its inherent vitality.

What, culturally, (values widely held, behaviors which implement the values) is so different between China, Russia, Iran, etc. .vs. the U.S.?

I don’t know about Iran but China and Russia have family values, conservative values in general, which combined with strong meritocracy for the best positions in private business and the State and good intellectual ability in the general population, guarantess success. The U.S.A. on the other hand, for reasons of mis-management by short-sighted and greedy elites (which I briefly pointed put to in the 2nd comment in this thread), have abandoned meritocracy to favor diversity, inclusion and equality, and has elevated degenerate sexuality as the paramount kind of freedom. A small but powerful minority in the U.S.A., the Israel lobby, has been the major factor behind this descent into lower standards and general deterioration.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 11 2024 8:54 utc | 158

B, Thanks for this article.
I believe that it is authoritarianism that is the root cause of ‘the disintegration of the old order’ that the Economist laments. Authoritarians don’t like systems, because it limits their actions. But when they bypass the systems they destroy them. Just like any game, when you cheat, you destroy the game.
It is the Western Financial Elites, those who run the World Economic Forum, who have captured power in the U.S., the UK and the EU, and who want to create a ‘World Government’ based on international institutions who are the authoritarians that are destroying ‘the old order’.
It is they, who have destroyed democracy in the U.S. by corrupting the system with money. It is they who have destroyed democracy in Europe by creating the Euro as a mechanism to usurp control from the individual countries. It is they who are destroying the electoral system in the U.S. by corrupting it with ‘mail in ballots’ and rigged voting machines, who are destroying the justice system in the U.S. through ‘law-fare’, who have rigged the economic system to favor the rich, and in doing so is de-industrializing the west. It is they who destroy the international trading system, and the dollar as a reserve currency, by imposing illegal sanctions and trade barriers.

Posted by: dh-mtl | May 11 2024 9:16 utc | 159

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 10 2024 14:18 utc | 2
You basically advocate a zero sum game approach. Very American. You don’t understand it’s the reason for the collapse of the system.

Posted by: RB | May 11 2024 9:18 utc | 160

Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
And Americans are now stuck with Tesla…
Always funny to see how fast the “free market” disappears once it doesn’t work in US companies’ favor.
Quote
Demetri
@Dimi
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10h

US set to impose 100% tariff on Chinese electric vehicles
“>https://ft.com/content/9b79b340-50e0-4813-8ed2-42a30e544e58

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1789159246770356538

Posted by: Menz | May 11 2024 9:21 utc | 161

Posted by: Milites | May 10 2024 17:25 utc | 52
Did you mean 19 century?

Posted by: RB | May 11 2024 9:35 utc | 162

Tom Pfotzer 123
U.S.A. behaviors are the result of senescence, of ossified social mobility, of lack of competition, and depredation of elites on their subjects. 
Well, UK behaviours are the result of our leaders only knowing how to make money , in a world that has many other problems. I wouldn’t call
it senescence, because it’s nothing to do with age, it’s solely to do with hating spiritual , creative and political wisdom and wanting to block their progress for everybody else.
Because people like Sunak only want to make money, they choose a religion that controls money and try to block everything else. Sunak genuinely believes that if a religion fixes money, there’s no need to fix anything else. His world is complete with his wealth.
I really don’t believe that he needs to predate on people with other interests in life and he isn’t old so it’s not senescence. More like a psychopathic strain of Autism that can only respond to money and power, whereas normal autism is often the exact reverse.
Going back to the USA , there are so many other things to do in life other than psychopathic dominance of everybody else. UK Empire 2 Toryism.
The catastrophe for the ruling classes of USUKIS is that their obsessive narrowmindedness and psychopathic obsession with wealth whas caused us normal people to rock their autistic bubble. They don’t like it or understand it.
Jesus AS wept.

Posted by: Giyane | May 11 2024 9:38 utc | 163

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:35 utc | 103
What a stupid comment.
Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105
We are not voting here. Your comment is meaningless. We are not not interested in your feelings. You have to explain yourself.

Posted by: RB | May 11 2024 10:13 utc | 164

Posted by: Giyane | May 11 2024 9:38 utc | 164
You are quoting @Johan Kaspar but responding to @Tom Pfotzer.
Very confusing.

Posted by: RB | May 11 2024 10:55 utc | 165

Here is the anthem that should replace the Star Spangled Banner:
Once I built a railroad, made it run
Made it race against time
I built a railroad, now its done
Brother can you spare a dime…
It is quite amazing that The Economist has turned on its master. But the new Cold War is almost upon us and with it the possibility of crushing incipient unions inside the US. Yes, repeal the 17th amendment!

Posted by: Stierlitz | May 11 2024 10:57 utc | 166

“American elites fucked up big time when they promoted the inclusion of China into the WTO. Short term it was good for them ’cause they by-passed American working classes but long term they unleashed the power of a superior competitor. When that happened with Japan in the 70s-80s, the solution was simple, force the Japanese vassals to destroy their impetus with currency manipulations (1985’s Plaza Accords). But that cannot be done to China today, for much that they beg-demand in failed supplicant-arrogant combo performances”.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 10 2024 14:18 utc | 2
Actually, the US vetoed China’s application to the WTO for years..
In October 2001 ,after 911, the US were invading Afghanistan: the US made a deal with China : that they withdraw two Chinese divisions from fortifications in Eastern Afghanistan and US would drop their veto -China got in
Probably the worst trade since the Algonquin Indians sold Manhattan Island to the Dutch for $24 of trinkets in 1647.

Posted by: canuck | May 11 2024 11:12 utc | 167

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2024 23:35 utc | 103
“What a stupid comment.”
Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105
No, its your reply that is lacking in intelligence.

Posted by: canuck | May 11 2024 11:36 utc | 168

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 11 2024 2:01 utc | 140
As a ‘precocious’ adolescent I read most of the Herman Hesse novels; my favourite was the ‘Glass Bead Game’ (1943)

Posted by: canuck | May 11 2024 11:44 utc | 169

“The vampire ball is ending.” — Putin
The Anglo empire is the “Vempire”.
Coming to an end…

Posted by: Asian frog | May 11 2024 11:45 utc | 170

Hungary and Serbia will be Europes Taiwan.
Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba the multipolar bases mirroring the aukus pocus bs troupe.
Chinese stocks in recovery up 20 % in a few weeks got another 100% to go to get back to 2020 and then some
Time to get back in there.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 11 2024 11:46 utc | 171

Debsisdead
I saw much deeper problems where I was. Ownership of their land in perpetuity was a big one. In that area, ALC bought a number of cattle leases and they became communities for those that come from that land. Government funding for projects in the communities was greatly reduced after it had passed through ALC hands. ALC honchos there all had rental portfolios. As corrupt as Ukraine.
These were obtained as cattle leases and had to be run as viable cattle properties and the communities had to pay leases and rates to retain them. Most of the older generation were illiterate and their working lives had been in stock camps. Many sold all their cattle to a couple of helicopter shysters from the territory, getting $100 per head for everything that was loaded onto a truck and leaving them no breeders.
Wallace was an outlier and didn’t go down that path. Had a white manager there for a few years and booted him out too. Why he asked me to muster the property on contract I don’t know.
In the deal, the community was going to supply the labour. first yard and the young blokes weren’t interested. Too much distrust of whities. I had to hire a couple of workers from Queensland for that season.
Next year was different and I ended up with a small crew that worked well together. By the end of that season all the young blokes were asking me for a job.
The also wanted me to teach them how to weld, how to fix motor vehicles. As they said to me, they only knew what their fathers could teach them.
At5 the end of the second year, Wallace asked me to stay on and made the property. Where to start? They had no money left from the cattle sales and little to show for it. They bought a bull truck which promptly broke down, and from what I could make out, they had basically been conned out of that money.
I put a five year deal to them. The first two years, virtually every cent would have to go back into the property. A little withdrawn the third year, and by the forth and fith, the dollars starting to come in basically for my five years pay plus the community, then after that initial five years to bring it to a viable cattle property we could look at something different under different circumstances or each go our own ways.
My getting paid at all was totally dependent on if I could bring it up to the stage of a viable business.
A yellerfella from town put something else to them and they went with that. Hair brained stuff and nothing come of it.
But what struck me is the young blokes all wanted jobs, paying jobs that they liked doing and had an interest in. What was required was people of any skin colour who could earn their respect to teach them various skills their fathers had not known. Without that, community life was a life of boredom. I would see the kids, bright and happy, older teenagers and those in their twenties often hanging around town instead looking for booze and drugs.
Most of the old stockmen will be gone now and we see the fringe dweller culture take shape in many places. Generations that will have known nothing else.Very close to the point of no return now.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2024 12:37 utc | 172

Anyone want to see exactly how delusional folks in the U.S. really are, simply tune in anytime to “The Washington Journal” call-in show produced each morning on the C-SPAN network. Listen to the commentary of U.S. citizens and you will hear for yourself the level of division, ignorance, and spin among ALL callers on just about any subject, except for discussion about the Zionist entity occupying Palestine.
c-span – washingtonjournal

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | May 11 2024 13:22 utc | 173

evolve due to common class interest; this was one of his few major mistakes imo.
Posted by: smuks | May 10 2024 22:24 utc | 87
Marx never foresaw the successful operation to put most of the west and its class interest into a coma.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 11 2024 14:03 utc | 174

Now that the writing’s on the wall Dominic Cummings has broken ranks; saying the unsayable for the British political media class
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/dominic-cummings-brands-ukraine-corrupt-mafia-state-as-he-blasts-russia-sanctions/ar-BB1m6MNQ

Posted by: diagonal | May 11 2024 14:06 utc | 175

I think I understand what you’re saying here, but the US has been an empire for quite a while and this may have slowed –but hasn’t stopped– the crash into hell.
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An Augustus could give the West another couple of centuries.
Posted by: Lysias | May 10 2024 22:00 utc | 85

Posted by: Ben Trovata | May 11 2024 14:14 utc | 176

I think the 2008 subprime loan crisis begun in the US was a literal conspiracy organized by the banking industry, whose center is of course the US, to begin the dismantling of the European Union, qua significant competitor and rival. I find there was absolutely no reason for European banks to have emulated the obvious suicidal subprime loan gargantuan corruption, it should have been evident to them how the end would unfold. One might say ditto for US banks and alike private financial institutions, except they had the hegemonic dollar to bail them out and to transfer the costs of the trillion dollar bailouts to the rest of the world, obligated as it is to trade principally in dollars. The Euro, on the other hand, could have been destroyed and came pretty close to being so. The war in Ukraine is the newest iteration of the US’s ploy to reduce the entirety of the EU to a vassal state akin to Japan.
In short, the subprime loan crisis was a financial “virus” of economic decimation, engineered in the US, and spread by a corrupt cabal of banks, many nominally based in Europe, but effectively a fifth column for neoliberal hegemony, in the US, UK, and EU, but whose controlling epicenter was the US intelligence establishment, effectively functioning as an American version of the Soviet or CCP Politburo, albeit in inverted order and purpose, as it hides behind a Potemkin village of diverse, different, ostensibly antagonistic corporate giants, in reality controlled by the same hedge funds, dynasts, and politico-military ‘wise men.’

Posted by: Ludo | May 11 2024 16:06 utc | 177

smuks | May 11 2024 0:45 utc | 120–
“Russia’s Future Planning Decree -2030-2036”.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2024 16:13 utc | 178

Here in the NW, there is a youtuber named Uneducated Economist who, for years, has been diligently producing podcasts discussing economic theory, FED-Reserve meeting minutes, and his own specialty, lumber prices. Like b, he chooses low-tech and avoids the slick-trappings of those wanting to make a commodity of their wheelhouse.
His last podcast, that he does from the comfort of his older cars, he relates freight numbers in the U.S. and how they are dropping currently from extreme post-pandemic highs.

There is a phenomenon called doom-scrolling that is really affecting technophiles in this country: basically, you scroll absentmindedly through social media, absorbing all kinds of 1-second blurbs of content and advertising. It is an absolutely dreadful thing. We laugh at the boomers and greatest generation that stared for hours at the t.v., but they had it heads-and-tails over our sorry, colonized asses: they kept their necks and posture straight on the couch/we cock our necks down for hours in bed, thumbing our stupid phones; they had the patience to endure an entire program and advertisements for hours without changing the channel/we flick to the next 10-second video-blurb after a tiny moment of recognition (swiping left or right on Tinder also comes to mind, where we make unconscious judgements that abhor reflections).

In Psych101 back at community college, I remember the instructor scoffing at questioning his statement that advertisement works on us regardless of our intentions to dismiss them. I said that to understand irony, you learn to laugh, as a default, when presented with images of happiness, contentment, the good life, etc..

But now I am not so sure. In the past couple years, I remember doom-scrolling through youtube where I would see young, upstart truckers broadcast their daily routine: fill-ups, safety-checks, screening their windows at night to sleep, making a comfort meal in their microwave, turning-down for the evening and watching a movie or playing a video game in their cab.
Altogether, not a bad life, I thought if that is what you seek: introversion and alone-time, to see the U.S., to not have a boss breathing down your neck or micro-managing you.
But, putting everything together now, I see how insidious social media, doom-scrolling, and advertising can be. A couple years ago, they needed truckers, so how about paying these lads to broadcast their life? It’ll get the dissatisfied to line-up to study for their CDL endorsements in no time.
The only problem is, two years later, freight is down, logistic companies have gone out of business, and the economy is on the brink. I imagine that those youtuber, upstart truckers may no longer be needed to broadcast the allure of living solo on the road with hemorrhoids.

What is the relation between the individual, the economy, the mind, and advertising? A common-denominator binds them.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 11 2024 17:11 utc | 179

@180
A thirst for satisfaction.
Fortunate are those who feel at ease with themselves and their surroundings, who upon waking already sense fulfilment, and who are free to explore the day at their own leisure and with their senses intact.
Those more motivated have their reasons, but too easily they become lost in their pursuits, chasing the endless dream while trapped in a swamp of unreality.
The more they try, the more they sink, because those who have learned how to harness the energy of others are so prevalent in this world.

Posted by: Ornot | May 11 2024 18:53 utc | 180

Talking about order, the situation in Georgia is becoming more chaotic.

Georgia, Tbilisi today.
Western funds have prepared and are starting to build up.
They brought everyone from everywhere, since previously they could not gather even 10 thousand protesters.
The Georgian authorities should have taken an example from the “democratic governments” and simply blocked the entrances to the city, stopped buses, detained the organizers, even “put” them in pre-trial detention.
Then declare that everyone was for money, and the goal of the sponsors was to drown the country in blood, war and chaos.
We are watching.
“>https://t.me/legitimniy/17914?single

Armenia sems on the road to chos as well as Myanmar.

Posted by: Richard L | May 11 2024 20:25 utc | 181

As a ‘precocious’ adolescent I read most of the Herman Hesse novels; my favourite was the ‘Glass Bead Game’ (1943)
Posted by: canuck | May 11 2024 11:44 utc | 170
Same here with hesse’s books and favorite being Glasperlenspiel. I named a puppy that followed me home in Kansas Stephen Wolf. He was a great dog.

Posted by: Samu | May 11 2024 20:46 utc | 182

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 10 2024 23:40 utc | 105
What a stupid comment.
If the yankees were interested by other cultures, they would not destroy them time and again.
The basic yankee speaks only American and knows very little about geography if anything.
https://youtu.be/IM01TR-oWNI

Posted by: Naive | May 11 2024 20:54 utc | 183

Posted by: JAB | May 11 2024 0:08 utc | 110
Volume III

Posted by: Patroklos | May 11 2024 22:32 utc | 184

Are the Russians thinking long term? Very long term. There’s a blooming that comes with resource extraction and then a bust that comes with exhaustion. I understand there are many reasons for a collapse and it can come slowly or quickly. It may be sentimental, thinking of the next 100 years or so, but I do think about it and have little access to this information.
We call it all sorts of names ESD or more realistically but equally ignored Sustainable Development. Huge mistakes are made. We have an excess of thousands of bikes electric and push going to landfill. So does China. Will the same mistakes continue to be made?

Posted by: Inki | May 12 2024 0:19 utc | 185

Ukraine was the cannon-fodder of the ZioCons.
Thousands of children missing, slave trade, ….rumours of organ trade, and all this in the free-Ukraine of the West!
Now that the original home land of many Ashkenazim is lost, and the small country in the Middle East is entering a phase of decline, they are negotiating with Milei to set up a Zio-state in the unspoiled regions of central Argentina.
The Mapuche live in the region, the next Palistinians

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 12 2024 4:10 utc | 186

@ Arch Bungle | May 12 2024 4:10 utc | 187
victoria nuland has been quoted at rt news tonight.. she is a pitiful women whose touch turns everything to pain and suffering for others.
Nuland explains why US never pushed Ukraine into talks with Russia

Posted by: james | May 12 2024 4:27 utc | 187

Globalism is treason. Treason is a crime punishable by death under U.S. law.

Posted by: kassandra | May 12 2024 4:33 utc | 188

Posted by: james | May 12 2024 4:27 utc | 188
I think everything these “people” say should be completely disregarded.
Even their admissions are lies.
They are like children in that they pile story upon story as high as needed to cover up their mistakes and the only way to get the truth out of them is a good old thrashing with the hickory stick.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 12 2024 4:34 utc | 189

@ Arch Bungle | May 12 2024 4:34 utc | 190
we agree! they excel at misdirection.. unfortunately they also seek power and have all the characteristics of psycho/sociopaths, devoid of human empathy… such is life that most ordinary people can never see this in advance.. by their fruits ye shall know them..

Posted by: james | May 12 2024 5:06 utc | 190

Posted by: canuck | May 11 2024 11:12 utc | 168

In October 2001 ,after 911, the US were invading Afghanistan: the US made a deal with China : that they withdraw two Chinese divisions from fortifications in Eastern Afghanistan and US would drop their veto -China got in
Probably the worst trade since the Algonquin Indians sold Manhattan Island to the Dutch for $24 of trinkets in 1647.

That’s an interesting assertion but you’d need to provide some sort of referential support for it. I’d think that the fundamental reason to change policy by USA elites and actively seek China’s inclusion in the WTO was to control the growth in the cost of labor by betraying their national working classes. But to trigger that decision based on short-term military purposes is also something that might have happened, something that got into the mix.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 12 2024 8:43 utc | 191

That cringe fest ‘European’ mass propaganda event took place last night – adding another stinking layer of projectile vomit and diarrhoea to the Collective Wastes mental anti-sanitarium.
It really has been a shit fest for many decades now and is run as an adjunct to the globohomo mental degradation. There were now the usual satanic acts, the ubiquitous soft porn and Trans creatures and of course the man in a skirt who won. Though he seemed like he was an actual talented singer.
It has been decided that Switzerland should hold the contest next year so most of the other acts were on purpose cringeworthy. I refer anyone interested to the infamous Father Ted tv episodes where the whole controlled competition part was ribticklingly satirised.
It is a sordid enterprise but, it is broadcast and put on every pub TV, so unavoidable. I do look instead at the voting that had been obviously rigged since the early days when it was decided by a ‘jury’ in each country. Unknown, unelected and random as fuck. An obvious controlled mechanism it got more so since the very beginning of the exercise of moulding a ‘European’ mind by encouraging the ‘public’ to vote by phone and text! Giving it another stinking layer of putridity.
The ukraine and Is***li ‘phone votes’ which alone sent them to the top from nowhere are sufficient to see the futility of ordinary viewers honest belief that the thing is an actual contest between actual real performers. Much like the postal votes that decide western ‘selections’ now.
To be fair there was some booing in the audience every time the illegal apartheid entity was mentioned! It’s not even in fucking Europe as aren’t Georgia and Armenia … which encapsulates the sordid nature of the whole exercise in the mental asylum.
The French Act was probably the better – an anthemic number ticking all the boxes obviously designed to be part of the Olympics propaganda this summer.
Ultimately designed to poison the minds of Europeans and Collective Waste.
It’s primary purpose now seems to be to cancel all things Russian – I doubt that it will ever have a relevance in the future like it did back in the 70’s and 80’s when such wholesome established and new artistes such as ABBA plied their trade honestly on their career developments.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 12 2024 10:50 utc | 192

DunGroanin | May 12 2024 10:50 utc | 193 (re “Eurovision Song Contest”)
*** It really has been a shit fest for many decades now and is run as an adjunct to the globohomo mental degradation. There were now the usual satanic acts, the ubiquitous soft porn and Trans creatures and of course the man in a skirt who won. Though he seemed like he was an actual talented singer.***
It was stunningly dreadful. Armenia and Ukraine plus the rather boring France were arguably the least worst. A supposed Cypriot woman from Australia *might* have reasonable talent (albeit in “Minogue” sort of way) if given a half-decent song and tune. Almost all of the rest was a fanatical LGBTQXYZ++ fest.
Some narcissistic “non binary” wimp from Italy won it. An immensely forgettable offering from Ireland was undoubtedly “satanist”. The UK entry was horribly bad even by usual present-day standards — though perhaps it made war-criminal Tony “Miranda” Blair nostalgic for activities before he was made PM.
Immediately after the shit-show ended, the BBC ran trailers for four of its programs…. every one of them as blatantly and extremely LGBTQ+++ line as could be.
NATO/Western mass-media has, like its politics, been completely taken over by persons of peculiar, very unrepresentative/minority and highly destructive agenda. Are the general public really content to be (increasingly by legal order) such slow-boiled frogs?

Posted by: Cynic | May 12 2024 14:05 utc | 193

*** “non binary” wimp from Italy won it. ***
Oops, that should have said “Switzerland”.

Posted by: Cynic | May 12 2024 14:39 utc | 194

China’s green manufacturing? You mean running your economy on coal and using the excess power to build and sell windmills and solar panels to Western idiots who want to reduce the output of their energy capacity so they are even less competitive with China? This is nah nah land stuff here.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=USA~CHN~OWID_EUR
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/primary-energy-cons?tab=chart&country=CHN~USA~OWID_EUR
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-consumption-by-source-and-country?stackMode=absolute&time=1986..latest&country=~CHN

Posted by: goldhoarder | May 12 2024 16:22 utc | 195

Posted by: Cynic | May 12 2024 14:05 utc | 194
DunGroanin | May 12 2024 10:50 utc | 193 (re “Eurovision Song Contest”)
*** It really has been a shit fest for many decades now and is run as an adjunct to the globohomo mental degradation. There were now the usual satanic acts, the ubiquitous soft porn and Trans creatures and of course the man in a skirt who won. Though he seemed like he was an actual talented singer.***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBjarAiAVc&pp=ygUXZXVyb3Zpc2lvbiAyMDI0IGNyb2F0aWE%3D
I skimmed through the semi finals entrants yesterday for 20 mins and that was enough apart from finding out who won at the end. My favourite is linked above – shallow, catchy, not overly but slightly kinky (have to these days!), terrific beat – ‘Rim Tim Tagi Dim’ from Croatia. I thought they should win.
But I didn’t see the Swiss man in the dress who of course won! Not to mention Ukraine and Israel being bumped up high in the final score delivered by the voting public. (Yeah, right!)
Democracy really does suck, eh?

Posted by: scorpion | May 12 2024 16:34 utc | 196

It’s great that those at the Economist have begun to face reality. Believe it or not, few realize that it’s the natural end of one horrific chapter & the beginning of a new one – where the woefully dysfunctional human family finally becomes a functional family. The old world order is falling apart, because it must – to make way for a brand new era that will last more than 2,000 years. Russia & China are leading the way. They’ve learned much in the last 100 years & are now in the vanguard. They’re on a natural, evolutionary, perpetual improvement trajectory. The sooner we join them, the better.
The western ruling elite – who have held power for centuries are freaking out now, because their old time worn solutions are no longer working. As controllers of the mass media, they surely want us to be hopeless & divided. Divided/conquered & oblivious to the power they are excercising to create needless chaos & more human suffering than can be measured.
Hiding truth is no longer possible for them. A very large percentage of the masses are thinking & questioning now more than ever. Even most of the formerly unquestioning, gullible masses now recognize that our political leaders are too corrupt/lost for words & need to be replaced. These advances/expansions in consciousness are evolutionary and can not be stopped.
A competent healer does not focus on the symptoms of a disease, but use the symptoms to identify the root cause of the disease, and proceeds from there.


“It is more proper that law should govern than any one of the citizens: upon the same principle, if it is advantageous to place the supreme power in some particular persons, they should be appointed to be only guardians, and the servants of the laws.
Aristotle, Politics 3:16.
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“We are moving into a period of climax, leading to events which will fundamentally alter life as we know it… To some people… it is the realisation that only through a profound inner change and readiness for a new direction in our political, economic and social life can humanity survive…
“Another war would destroy all life on earth. So what can we do?…. We only have one option and that is to end war forever. So how to we get at stopping war? We have to create trust. We have to get rid of injustice.
“When a nation comes to adulthood, to maturity, it relates to other nations in a completely different way than hitherto. It begins to respect the Rule of Law, which binds all nations together in mutual responsibility and need. The sign of a growing maturity is precisely this respect for the laws which men have found necessary to living together in peace…
“When we create an economic system based on co-operation and sharing rather than on competition and market forces, we will create a more moral economic structure. When the stock exchanges collapse, humanity will be brought face to face with its illusions about the nature of reality.
-Benjamin Creme
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Creme
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“A Society that prohibits the capacity to speak in truth extinguishes the capacity to live in justice… Tyrannies invert the rule of law. They turn the law into an instrument of injustice. They cloak their crimes in a faux legality. They use the decorum of the courts and trials, to mask their criminality.”
“Those such as Julian who expose that criminality to the public are dangerous, for without the pretext of legitimacy the tyranny loses credibility and has nothing left in its arsenal but fear, coercion and violence… The long campaign against Julian and WikiLeaks is a window into the collapse of the rule of law..
Chris Hedges, Revisiting the case of Julian Assange and the reality of the “rule of law”, Salon (15 June 2021)
“What we are demanding on the political spectrum is in fact conservative: It is the restoration of the rule of law. It is simple and basic. It should not, in a functioning democracy, be incendiary. But living in truth in a despotic system is the supreme act of defiance. This truth terrifies those in power.
The criminal ruling class has all of us locked in its death grip… It has abolished the rule of law. It obscures and falsifies the truth. It seeks the consolidation of its obscene wealth and power. And so, to quote the Queen of Hearts, metaphorically of course, I say, “Off with their heads.”
-Chris Hedges, Revisiting the case of Julian Assange and the reality of the “rule of law”, Salon (15 June 2021)
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rule_of_law#H
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“The basic problem of US foreign policy is that it is trying to achieve hegemony in a multipolar world. The US has neither the economic, military, financial, nor technological means to be the world’s hegemon, but is also has no deep national interest in trying to be the world’s hegemon. Yes, the belief by people like Biden that the US is the world’s leader and the “indispensable” nation, is still part of the Washington scene, or I should say the Washington delusion.
-Jeffrey Sachs
https://www.jurist.org/features/2023/11/06/there-needs-to-be-a-political-settlement-jeffrey-sachs-on-what-it-will-take-to-end-the-israel-palestine-conflict/
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“The greatest achievement of humanity is not its works of art, science, or technology, but the recognition of its own dysfunction, its own madness.
In the distant past, this recognition already came to a few individuals. A man called Gautama Siddhartha, who lived 2,600 years ago in India, was perhaps the first who saw it with absolute clarity…
“To recognize one’s own insanity, is of course, the arising of sanity, the beginning of healing and transcendence.
“The more unconscious individuals, groups, or nations are, the more likely it is that egoic pathology will assume the form of physical violence. Violence is a primitive but still very widespread way in which the ego attempts to assert itself, to prove itself right or another wrong. With very unconscious people, arguments can easily lead to physical violence.
“The ego, and particularly the collective ego, strengthens itself through emphasizing the “otherness” of others. In other words, the ego needs an “enemy” for its continued survival. Hence its refusal to compromise.
Until the new consciousness, which is awareness-based, grows and becomes more firmly established in the human psyche, temporary regression to the egoic state of consciousness (or rather unconsciousness) can easily occur. I have noticed with concern, for example, that not only certain politicians, but also some commentators in respectable publications are increasingly portraying Russia and/or China as the “enemy.”
-Eckhart Tolle
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle

P.S.
Western Leaders & supportive associates: Please stop supporting genocide/barbarism/endless wars/big lies & dirty tricks. It’s extremely, ignorant & futile. Karmic consequences will not be pleasant. Please See severe & profoundly handicapped kids for insight & remember that Hitler & his associates also fondly imagined that they were above the law.
P.S. II
Ladies & Gentlemen: ​What Can/Should be done about AIPAC? Has AIPAC corrupted all the US/EU governments with honeytrap, blackmail, bribery ops? Are they behind the endless wars, mass deception, & literal epidemic of chaos &decadence? Who does AIPAC report to? Perhaps they report to a few old ruling elite families who have held power for centuries – who don’t understand what’s going on & are very fearful of losing their power?
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PSA: US gov’t Employees & Contractors Can Be Charged w/COMPLICITY in War Crimes: 18USC §2441 & GENOCIDE: 18USC §1091 + “I was following orders” is NO excuse! There is NO Statute of Limitations. Maybe some US workers helping Biden/Netanyahu should think less about their careers & more about prison.

Posted by: Will Seymore | May 12 2024 21:27 utc | 197

It’s great that those at the Economist have begun to face reality. Believe it or not, few realize that it’s the natural end of one horrific chapter & the beginning of a new one – where the woefully dysfunctional human family finally becomes a functional family. The old world order is falling apart, because it must – to make way for a brand new era that will last more than 2,000 years. Russia & China are leading the way. They’ve learned much in the last 100 years & are now in the vanguard. They’re on a natural, evolutionary, perpetual improvement trajectory. The sooner we join them, the better.
The western ruling elite – who have held power for centuries are freaking out now, because their old time worn solutions are no longer working. As controllers of the mass media, they surely want us to be hopeless & divided. Divided/conquered & oblivious to the power they are excercising to create needless chaos & more human suffering than can be measured.
Hiding truth is no longer possible for them. A very large percentage of the masses are thinking & questioning now more than ever. Even most of the formerly unquestioning, gullible masses now recognize that our political leaders are too corrupt/lost for words & need to be replaced. These advances/expansions in consciousness are evolutionary and can not be stopped.
A competent healer does not focus on the symptoms of a disease, but use the symptoms to identify the root cause of the disease, and proceeds from there.
den/Netanyahu should think less about their careers & more about prison.

Posted by: Will Seymore | May 12 2024 21:31 utc | 198

Liberal international order?
It is not “order”.
All I had seen in my life was “an abomination of coward US empire and its minions behaving in their own privileged way and oppressing the rest of the world.” I believe that.
Why did US President George W. Bush destroy Iraq with falsehoods, and why has he not been hanged to this day?
Why do the shit media, which gets hysterical when Iran or North Korea develop nuclear weapons, tacitly approve of Israel’s illegal nuclear programme?
I have always been outraged by these inequalities and injustices.
If this is called order, then we should kill such order.
I consider myself to have been educated by liberals in institutions of schooldays, but if the above order is the liberal order I would call it ‘less than rubbish thought’.
I don’t remember being taught to do this.
Now, the world is finally about to normalise.
Feel free to die.

Posted by: Nokaz | May 13 2024 0:45 utc | 199

Several things…
First, The ECONOMIST won’t publish any solutions, as all possible solutions require the literal destruction and impoverishment of their reader base.
Second, the lib-tards COULD have kept it going for themselves IF they hadn’t EXPLICITLY BEGAN To HUNT OUR CHILDREN. Gay Marriage, OK, Hire some unqualified minorities and give them Brother-in-Law jobs where they can’t actually do anything and so wreck it. Fine. But these knuckleheads came after us with this Trans-stuff, and now in the West parents have NO authority over their children and are prevented from raising the kids in a manner of the parents choosing. THAT killed it for the Lib-Tards.
To paraphrase the Great Bard, “This it is when Gentiles are ruled by Jews”. Draw your own conclusions as to the BEST solution.

Posted by: OldFart | May 13 2024 11:54 utc | 200