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April 25, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-122
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Apr 25 2024 10:52 utc | 1 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 25 2024 11:30 utc | 2 Not a coincidence that with the emergence of AI and the obsolescence of humans (of men in particular), we are turning from post-war to pre-war. A good reminder when they request us (useless eaters) to go and kill other useless eaters. Posted by: Asian frog | Apr 25 2024 11:31 utc | 3
Doesn’t say how these power imports are going to be paid for, can’t imagine they’re on a Pay As You Go tariff! Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 25 2024 11:50 utc | 4 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang@4….well looking at the futures market, from the US NATO side, the money comes from bazzillions of dollars to be made off the fire sale of Russia’s resources…..it’s all about the oil mammon. Ask Trump, he knows. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 25 2024 12:02 utc | 5 The Ukrops are starting something new : selective & preventive withdrawals. Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 25 2024 12:05 utc | 6 Some news:
Ukraine has ceased passport services to Ukrainians outside the country. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 25 2024 12:07 utc | 7 It’s made my day, stopping back (as I’ve done again and again) and finding MoA open again. I very much hope whatever the medical issue was, it is behind you now and you are well. Thank you for your wonderful contribution here. Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Apr 25 2024 12:07 utc | 8 Missed you b. Happy for the good news. Posted by: migueljose | Apr 25 2024 12:20 utc | 9 Asian frog | Apr 25 2024 11:31 utc | 3 Posted by: KingCobra | Apr 25 2024 12:31 utc | 10 Slave trade in Ukraine Posted by: migueljose | Apr 25 2024 12:38 utc | 11 Posted by: Asian frog | Apr 25 2024 11:31 utc | 3 Posted by: Boo | Apr 25 2024 12:41 utc | 12 “useless eaters” has been around for a while, often used to describe the elderly, the retired, and anyone not a slave to the system. Recently reported that Covid was responsible for 30 million excess deaths worldwide, mostly “useless eaters” quite an accomplishment! Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Apr 25 2024 12:47 utc | 13 @KingCobra | Apr 25 2024 12:31 utc | 10
It’s a term of LTI. See: Glossary of Nazi Germany. Search for “Unnütze Esser”. @Posted by: SwissCovidiot | Apr 25 2024 12:47 utc | 13 Posted by: dustbunny | Apr 25 2024 13:00 utc | 14 After Zakharova “approved” nukes in Finland about a month ago ( tass.com/politics/1756375 ), even though they did not ask the question or for permission from the medieval artillery duelists, today she “approved” nukes in Poland too ( tass.com/politics/1780585 ). I give her max 1-2 years before she “approves” nato nukes in Armenia and Georgia. Posted by: rk | Apr 25 2024 13:03 utc | 15 “Useless eaters”. 🤣 made me laugh. Did you make that up? Posted by: malenkov | Apr 25 2024 13:06 utc | 16 Missed you b. Happy for the good news. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 25 2024 13:06 utc | 17 rk @15 Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 25 2024 13:44 utc | 18 @18, Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 25 2024 13:58 utc | 19 Welcome back, b. Posted by: KitaySupporter | Apr 25 2024 14:04 utc | 20 Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 25 2024 13:44 utc | 18 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 25 2024 14:07 utc | 21 Asian frog | Apr 25 2024 11:31 utc | 3 Posted by: Mary | Apr 25 2024 14:16 utc | 22 Slavyangrad reports actual starvation breaking out in Kharkov. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 25 2024 14:19 utc | 23 Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Apr 25 2024 12:07 utc | 8 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 25 2024 14:22 utc | 24 Thanks for re-opening the bar, b – hope you’re well! Posted by: smuks | Apr 25 2024 14:31 utc | 25 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 25 2024 11:50 utc | 4 Posted by: smuks | Apr 25 2024 14:38 utc | 26 Posted by: smuks | Apr 25 2024 14:31 utc | 25 Posted by: Oliver Krug | Apr 25 2024 14:57 utc | 27 Boo | Apr 25 2024 12:41 utc | 12 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 25 2024 15:16 utc | 28 B…….welcome back……thank you for your efforts, good health unto you ! Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 25 2024 15:21 utc | 29 RF needs to continue to apply pressure all along the front in order to find the areas where the UFA line is creaking, cracking and collapsing………. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 25 2024 16:03 utc | 30 Posted by: migueljose | Apr 25 2024 12:38 utc | 11 Posted by: Michael A | Apr 25 2024 16:08 utc | 31 @SwissArmyMan | Apr 25 2024 12:47 utc | 13 Posted by: gT | Apr 25 2024 16:13 utc | 32 Thanks to all for the “useless eaters” explanation. You learn something every day. Posted by: KingCobra | Apr 25 2024 16:17 utc | 33 Welcome back B Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 25 2024 16:33 utc | 34 Idiot NAFOs are salivating over the long-range ATACMS taking down the Kerch. Funny how they entirely missed the point that those LR-ATACMS were already supplied and — as with most wunderwaffen — have had negligible effect on the overall conflict. You can’t tell me Zelensky wouldn’t take the opportunity to launch a surprise attack on the bridge with “undisclosed” weapons. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 25 2024 16:34 utc | 35 Useless shitters vs useless eaters, there’s your class war in a nutshell. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 25 2024 16:40 utc | 36 Says “strikes, not “strike”, if true no “oopsie, my bad”. So, how is this not an act of war? Right after the $60bil, pretty clear where it’s going, new wind under Nazi-NATO sails. 2024 seems to be 1938, 2025 will be 1939.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 25 2024 16:55 utc | 37 “useless eaters” has been around for a while, often used to describe the elderly, the retired, and anyone not a slave to the system. Recently reported that Covid was responsible for 30 million excess deaths worldwide, mostly “useless eaters” quite an accomplishment! Posted by: kupkee | Apr 25 2024 17:10 utc | 38 Anecdotes from the Ukraine: Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 25 2024 17:16 utc | 39 Macron may be in to something:
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 25 2024 17:50 utc | 40 @28 lol Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 25 2024 18:07 utc | 41 Discussion of nuclear war has become “normalized”, and this is horrifying. Leaders seem to be trying to persuade everyone that it would not be such a big deal, like a trip to the store or something. These people are insane. A nuclear exchange would be devastating for the whole world! Something to chew on: https://folkpotpourri.com/a-time-of-unimaginable-sorrow-is-upon-us/ Posted by: Mike R | Apr 25 2024 18:09 utc | 42 Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 25 2024 18:07 utc | 41 Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 25 2024 18:13 utc | 43 Norwegian @ 40
Mon Dieu, throughout his dismal rule everything Macron has said has been the opposite of what he has done, home and abroad. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 25 2024 18:20 utc | 44 Newbie @21 Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 25 2024 18:27 utc | 45 Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 25 2024 18:27 utc | 45 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 25 2024 18:36 utc | 46 Today’s Russian Defence Ministry report: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12510443@egNews
The reference to “formations of mercenaries” is not something the Ministry regularly highlights in these reports. “Sacré bleu!”? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 25 2024 18:37 utc | 47 With talk of nuclear war resurgent, please allow me to repost mention of Level 7. Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 25 2024 18:54 utc | 48 So, Russia’s military is stronger than ever … Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Apr 25 2024 19:12 utc | 50 As Ive said weeks ago, much of the new aid package to Ukraine has already been spent as it was for weapons transferred to Kiev “secretly” and before it was agreed by the US. However, it still had to be accounted for. Probably weapons deliveries since the end of 2023 were part of this belated aid. Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 25 2024 19:46 utc | 51 Black Mountain Analysis episode 18 with Mike Mihajlovic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PAyDGR9VM Posted by: unimperator | Apr 25 2024 19:53 utc | 52 Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 25 2024 19:46 utc | 51 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 25 2024 19:56 utc | 53 Anyone have some news of Budanov ? Asking for a friend 🙂 Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Apr 25 2024 20:10 utc | 54 Asian frog | Apr 25 2024 11:31 utc | 3 Posted by: kvp | Apr 25 2024 20:24 utc | 55 Barflies might find “Corruption in Russia: The Timur Ivanov Case” an interesting read authored by Marat Khairullen the war correspondent and translated into English. Welcome back, B. Good to hear everything went smoother than anticipated. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 25 2024 21:32 utc | 57 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 25 2024 21:32 utc | 57 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 25 2024 21:41 utc | 58 Posted by: smuks | Apr 25 2024 14:31 utc | 25 Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 25 2024 21:54 utc | 59 Berdyshitville Berdyshitville Berdyshitville. (It’s like a metronome) Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 25 2024 22:03 utc | 60 As much as I hate Arestovich, I recognise his perspicacity. He is a very canny commentator. Consider his explanation for 100K deserters:
Well, quite. And the same goes for NATO, USA, Australia, etc. Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 25 2024 22:21 utc | 61 Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 25 2024 19:46 utc | 51 Posted by: Zet | Apr 25 2024 22:25 utc | 62 Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 25 2024 22:21 utc | 61 Posted by: watcher | Apr 25 2024 23:10 utc | 64 As J6 is still in the news.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 26 2024 0:50 utc | 65 @53 unimperator Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 26 2024 1:22 utc | 66 welcome back B. Posted by: snake | Apr 26 2024 2:02 utc | 67 Daily Mail:
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 26 2024 2:12 utc | 68 Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 25 2024 22:21 utc | 61 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 26 2024 2:33 utc | 69 Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 26 2024 2:12 utc | 68 Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 26 2024 2:43 utc | 70 North Korea has lots of capacity to produce artillery barrels, and Russia has always had facilities to recondition them. And of course they are also pumping out new ones. Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 26 2024 4:30 utc | 72 Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 26 2024 2:43 utc | 70 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 26 2024 4:30 utc | 73 “And US announcing weapon packages which were delivered months ago. They never stopped delivering anything.” Posted by: varnel | Apr 26 2024 4:39 utc | 74 Retaining_H2O | Apr 26 2024 2:43 utc | 70 Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 26 2024 4:55 utc | 75 Not saying that’s proof that 100% of shipments stopped, but the overloaded trains heading for the ports of LA/Long Beach did. Posted by: varnel | Apr 26 2024 4:58 utc | 76 Cyberspec News telegram Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 26 2024 5:10 utc | 77 @74 re trains. Posted by: golddigger | Apr 26 2024 5:21 utc | 78 Meanwhile, Russians believe in Russia. Hell, I goddam believe in Russia. I used to believe in Australia, but I sure as shit wouldn’t fight for it now. Why? Because it no longer fights for me. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 26 2024 5:41 utc | 79 Utterly delighted to have you back, b. Didn’t realise how psychologically dependent I was for my regular dose of sanity from your posts, until you vanished (and of course my forebrain was generating all manner of conspiracy theories). Posted by: MFB | Apr 26 2024 6:18 utc | 80 Re: Posted by: MFB | Apr 26 2024 6:18 utc | 80
lol – who told you this?!? Posted by: Julian | Apr 26 2024 6:51 utc | 81 Posted by: golddigger | Apr 26 2024 5:21 utc | 78 Posted by: varnel | Apr 26 2024 6:57 utc | 82 Dr. Mearsheimer said in Judge Napolitano’s interview that US never stopped delivering weapons to Ukraine and Biden has been circumventing congressional restrictions the entire time. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2024 7:11 utc | 84 Mr Putin’s war machine cannot maintain its current pace indefinitely. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 26 2024 7:35 utc | 85 “putins warmachine“ does not have to maintain this pace indefinetly. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 26 2024 7:42 utc | 86 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2024 21:07 utc | 56 Posted by: kspr | Apr 26 2024 7:55 utc | 87 Re: Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 26 2024 7:35 utc | 85
The Russians occupy less of Ukraine now than they did 2 years ago in April 2022 – just a fact. Posted by: Julian | Apr 26 2024 8:18 utc | 88 You don’t understand! At this rate the Soviet Union is never going to win the second world war, it’s been two and a half years and Leningrad is still under siege and THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE MEASUREMENT OF SUCCESS!!1! Posted by: I | Apr 26 2024 8:23 utc | 89 Yes indeed Patroklos @61, Watcher @64, Jake @69. Posted by: Honeyeater | Apr 26 2024 8:37 utc | 90 After Novobakhmutovka, Soloviev has been mostly taken by RUAF too. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2024 8:45 utc | 91
I would have to up it – Russia now does not occupy even a square foot of Ukraine, even worse – Ukraine now occupies some Russian lands that are being liberated right now. Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 26 2024 9:14 utc | 92 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2024 21:07 utc | 56 Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 26 2024 9:23 utc | 93
they just cant help themself, especially since it was known that the volumes of russian pipeline gas was replaced with … russian lng. and making it now so that the eu countries cannot resell is like a double suicide, but i am sure, with confidence, that ursula is the perfect man for the job. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 26 2024 9:26 utc | 94 Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 26 2024 9:26 utc | 94 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2024 9:30 utc | 95
Ivanov has been constructing buildings and sites. Prigozhin was complaiming about insufficiant ammo. Why should have Prigozhin called Ivanov anything? Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 26 2024 9:32 utc | 96 Posted by: Julian | Apr 26 2024 8:18 utc | 88 Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 26 2024 9:34 utc | 97 saw this in the comment section on the hedge, so im not sure if its an actual quote or not, as im not touching bloomberg:
this is going to be fun, BIGLY. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 26 2024 9:37 utc | 98 Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 26 2024 9:32 utc | 96 Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 26 2024 9:46 utc | 99 Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 26 2024 9:37 utc | 98 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2024 9:47 utc | 100 |
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