Ukraine Open Thread 2024-119
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here.
These effects of the war are too rarely mentioned:
Two years of war have impoverished many Ukrainians - Economist
In 2023 Ukraine’s GDP was 72% of what it was in 2021. Millions have either lost their jobs, or had their pay cut by struggling employers. But walk around any of the big cities set back from the frontlines and today you would hardly know there was a war on. Last month a huge new bookshop opened a few minutes’ walk from where the volunteers of Sant’Egidio, a Rome-based charity, distribute their food. Shops, businesses, cafés and restaurants are packed and plenty of people are driving fancy cars.However, the war has tipped many into poverty, especially those who were hard-pressed before, and above all those whose homes and livelihoods have been lost. A World Bank survey last November found that 9% of Ukrainians had run out of food at some point in the previous 30 days. In March, according to the Centre for Economic Strategy, a think-tank in Kyiv, 23% were in a state of food insecurity. Some 14% were unemployed.
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Posted by b on April 22, 2024 at 17:03 UTC | Permalink
next page »We, the US, are literally funding their entire government and pension system at this point. As long as we keep printing and sending money over there, they'll still be able to terrorize innocent Russians in the Donbass and in Russia proper. The weapons we are sending over are just icing on the cake.
Posted by: bored | Apr 22 2024 17:08 utc | 2
Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev held a working meeting with Cuban Interior Minister Lazaro Alberto Alvarez Casas in Moscow. Not the first one recently. US should be concerned, very concerned.
Posted by: AI | Apr 22 2024 17:16 utc | 3
g wiltek - 1
"I wish the russians could bring the war to the door of the americans. It is time they get to feel the pain."
gosh, the Russians are sorta busy right now - if you feel strongly about it, knock yourself out...
Are you at least practising a USA version of BDS?
Posted by: Eric Blair | Apr 22 2024 17:42 utc | 4
A lot of billionaires and multi-millionaires from the Global South would rather keep their wealth in western countries. Not because they think they're economically stronger than BRICS, but because they know that US/UK-led West will never threaten private wealth. China might, or rather: will. Because US/UK are capitalist states, while China is a socialist state with capitalist elements in its economy.
Posted by: smuks | Apr 22 2024 16:38 utc | 214
Thanks for this amazing post.
Do you think EU would allow this to happen?
Posted by: vargas | Apr 22 2024 17:46 utc | 5
EU shoots itself in the foot again and kneels before the USA
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To once again shoot the European industry in the face, the European Union intends to include a ban on LNG supplies in the 14th package of anti-Russian sanctions.
As they say, this is nothing personal, just that the United States wants to sell to the EU more of its LNG gas, which is several times more expensive than Russian gas. In order to physically deprive European companies of the opportunity to buy Russian gas, the United States simply decided to introduce a ban at the level of the European Commission.
Let's see how enthusiastically they will respond to such initiatives in France and Spain, which buy most of the Russian gas.
I'm sure they just want to pay Americans more for gas because there are more "molecules of freedom and democracy")))
Posted by: ossi | Apr 22 2024 17:52 utc | 6
I’ve read here and elsewhere that Ukraine has been programmed with a degenerate culture that makes people shrug and not care as long as whatever it is doesn’t happen to them personally. So you have men dragged off the streets to die and women and children sent to die, and nobody gives a crap. It’s a self-reinforcing system too because the more people they kill at the front, the fewer able bodied people are around to revolt, assuming it could ever get bad enough to motivate the Ukrainian people into that (I personally think it would never happen). It’s watching the suicide of a nation, which is exactly what Russia wants too because I’m sure they feel the majority of Ukies are beyond rehabilitation. There are a lot parallels to end days of the third reich.
Posted by: Moonraker | Apr 22 2024 17:52 utc | 7
A lot of billionaires and multi-millionaires from the Global South would rather keep their wealth in western countries. Not because they think they're economically stronger than BRICS, but because they know that US/UK-led West will never threaten private wealth. China might, or rather: will. Because US/UK are capitalist states, while China is a socialist state with capitalist elements in its economy.
Posted by: smuks | Apr 22 2024 16:38 utc | 214
This logic crashes overnight if the US seizes Russian assets. Those assets are actually 'private wealth,' they are owed to private concerns that used to trade with Russia. Since seizing them would be force majeure, there would be no recourse to insurers, if any.
The assets of billionaires are productive assets- ie, factories, materials, transportation networks. The cash is just a tool for managing these, extracting wealth, and purchasing more real assets. Heavily inflated dollars that people outside the US do not want- because the US can make their holdings worthless at any moment, won't be a good place to store liquidity. The big capitalists have been using the paper profits of inflated valuations to take ownership of more real assets- like buying up farmland all over the world. They are already 'getting out of the dollar' by converting to physical assets. The people left holding the cash are the ones who are going to be screwed, wherever they live, if they bank in the west and hold western currency.
Posted by: Honzo | Apr 22 2024 17:57 utc | 8
"@Vargas 5
" BRICS, but because they know that US/UK-led West will never threaten private wealth. China might, or rather: will. Because US/UK are capitalist states, while China is a socialist state with capitalist elements"
Completely wrong. Those billionaires have been duped into thinking that but really when they try to take their money out of england(the main pirate race) then a lot of hurdles are put in their way. England stole Libyan gold, stole Russian 300 billions, stole Russian oligarchs yatchs.
most of 3rd world riches are sent to London which lives off money laundering and british call that financial services. England still today steals as pirate it always has been
And the complain of victims coming as refugees!
England must be made to pay up money it is stealing even today
Posted by: Sam | Apr 22 2024 18:01 utc | 9
@Vargas 5
60% of the UK's GDP is financial fraud, dabbling in stolen money from the third world with help of british approved dictators in those nations.-otherwise humanitarian bombing is coming your way !
Money laundering is the business of English race-they never graduated from the piracy days.
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The global money laundering system Britain put in place as its colonies dwindled is the core element of its new Empire. It consists of a string of tax havens around the world operating with London [ Images ] as a global hub. The system now caters to all sorts of criminals, ranging from super-rich tax evaders and corporate bigwigs hiding the proceeds of mispricing of trade to mafiosi engaged in garden variety organised crime.
The tax haven system washes an estimated $2 trillion annually into the "legitimate" world economy. According to a recent report from Washington-based Global Financial Integrity, an NGO headed by a former World Bank economist, it also drained about $6 trillion out of poor countries over the last decade. Adding up the estimates made by a number of experts indicates that the total of illicit assets in tax havens is some $30 trillion, double the GDP of the United States.
China’s main credit rating agency – Dagong – argues that the U.S. economy is actually much closer to $5 than $15 trillion:In the components of the U.S. GDP in 2009, the financial services sector accounted for 21.4% while the real economy sector accounted for 65%. If we exclude the factor of virtual economy, the U.S. actual GDP is about 5 trillion U.S. dollars in 2009, per capita GDP about $ 15,000. Meanwhile, the total domestic consumption was 10.0 trillion U.S. dollars and government expenditure was 4.5 trillion U.S. dollars. It is predicted that the average real GDP per year of the United States will not reach 6 trillion U.S. dollar and per capita GDP will be less than 20,000 in the coming 3-5 years.(Dagong said in 2010: “The US is insolvent and faces bankruptcy as a pure debtor nation”. So the ratings war is ongoing. )
you are dumb enough to trust the england and usa then you deserve what you get ----- the only way to deal with the usa is to be more treacherous and much stronger --- the anglo loves to beat up suckers and weaklings.
Posted by: Sam | Apr 22 2024 18:24 utc | 10
It’s watching the suicide of a nation, which is exactly what Russia wants too because I’m sure they feel the majority of Ukies are beyond rehabilitation.
Posted by: Moonraker | Apr 22 2024 17:52 utc | 7
I don’t think that’s what the Russian people or the Russian government want. Most of the territory currently labeled “Ukraine” has been a critical part of Russia (and later the Soviet Union) for centuries. The Soviet Union had several Ukrainian Premiers. The “Ukies” are not beyond rehabilitation (well not the vast majority), they are brothers of the Russians. If Russia didn’t care about Ukraine they could have conducted the war very differently (i.e., saturation bombing of Kiev). That said, there does exist a small percentage of Ukrainians who fought against the Soviet Union and with the Nazis who are not assimilable. They can have the rump state that will be leftover.
Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 22 2024 18:26 utc | 11
war impoverishes people? weird that.... and here i was a regular cheerleader for war, cause you know - have to get those bad guys russia...
brain dead.... humanity needs a total wake up call to get on a new level.. we ain't there yet..
Posted by: james | Apr 22 2024 18:28 utc | 12
It looks like Russia is preparing for a major move. Sappers clearing mines along the Sumy and Kharkov region border.
I read something on Lavrov saying they will have to give the Europeans a demonstration that will make them think twice about attacking Russia.
Frontlines appear to be moving faster now as Ukraine runs out of men an equipment.
Possibly a move limited to those two border regions or possibly something that will sweep down through the Donetsk region behind the current Ukie frontlines.
Judging by the way the SU-25's are freely flying over Kharkov, the time is ripe for a major move.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 19:09 utc | 13
Honzo | Apr 22 2024 17:57 utc | 8
Prior to the 'sanctions from hell' Gas contracts, Gas purchases were all in Euro's and paid to the Gazprom offices in Europe. That money was kept in European banks and I believe formed a part of Russia's foreign currency reserves.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 19:13 utc | 14
Posted by: Sam | Apr 22 2024 18:24 utc | 10
When determining the real size of US economy, one good example was recently one of the US congressman presenting a bag of US air force bushings and asking how much they are worth. No one knew how much they are worth. He said the small bag of simple bushings costs $90k for the air force.
If you go with that example, you can probably deflate the economy by 90 %. This could be an extreme example, but one gets the point.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 22 2024 19:15 utc | 15
The fall of Ocheretino will have very serious consequences for the enemy.
In fact, the enemy has lost a key position on a hill that provides access to the flank and even the rear of other enemy positions in the area of the village. Relying on this village, the Russian Armed Forces can develop an offensive in several directions at once as soon as they tighten up the logistics, and the enemy, in turn, will experience increasing flank pressure.
The one who planned the operation to free Ocheretino is a damn genius. With one blow, the 2nd line of defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces west of Avdiivka was actually broken through. In the coming week we will see active painting of maps in red to the west of Avdievka.
Boris Rozhin
Posted by: MiniMo | Apr 22 2024 19:16 utc | 16
Two years of war have impoverished many Ukrainians - Economist
Enriched more than a few too.
Pretty sure the main reason why all the books sold in Kiev used to be in Russian was because Russian was the language most bi-lingual Ukrainians were most fluent in, even if they thought their first language was Ukrainian. Somehow I doubt books in the Ukrainian language will sell well even now.
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 22 2024 19:41 utc | 17
I have read that Russel Bentley also know as the Donbass Cowboy has been tortured and killed by the Russians. In a European newspaper.
That makes no sense to me, at all.
Anyone with any info?
Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
A report from another planet follows. In a local MSM-controlled forum in Norway I said the Kiev-regime (Kiev instead of "Kyiv" and that really triggered some people) was on its way to total collapse. The local truth there is that Russia has lost 7000+ tanks and is relying on human wave tactics. I also had to defend the use of the word "regime" and I did that by referring to the 2014 coup led by Victoria Nuland. That caused a few gaskets to blow and I found myself permanently banned...
Well, it is kind of interesting how things can be so completely turned on its head. Although I can't post there anymore I had a look today and found a post with a link to a bizarre video:
Q: What would a defeated Russia look like?
Professor @TimothyDSnyder answers.
https://twitter.com/Intellect_Vids/status/1782006388497011039
If you listen to the first few minutes it almost sounds reasonable "Empires lose Imperial wars", talking about European countries losing historical wars. But the whole thing is some kind of weird psychological projection onto Russia. I wonder how such total detachment from reality can happen, but I don't have any answers.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
A great moment in a recent History Legends video (at the 1:55 mark) when he played footage of Russian troops in the field playing his show on a smartphone with all of the men crowded around and commenting on how good his interactive maps are and waving to the camera to say hello.
Made me smile when a commentator is commenting on commentary about his commentary.
Recursive AF.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2024 19:47 utc | 20
@g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
Unfortunately, it is likely true. This is what Graham Phillips says about Russel "Texas" Bentley
🙏🏻 Last week we learned of the tragic deaths of 2 great guys over here, journalist Semyon Eremin, and Texas. They made a massive, positive contribution here, and although there is never an option but to move forward, we will always remember them.https://t.me/grahamwphillips/1593
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:48 utc | 21
@g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
Clarification: I don't mean to say it is true Texas "has been tortured and killed by the Russians", but it is likely true he is deceased, which is obviously disastrous in itself.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:55 utc | 22
There is still no further outstanding attempts or reporting today by the UKR+Nazi forces to force re-gain any of the lodt & so-called currently "owned Ukranian" cities and grounds.
Bee welcomed - Mr. Z-Cock-Showing: Your US-Cock is smaller than expected, today 20240422.
Your Nazi friends may take-over yourself - pls. flee now! As 60 US-"Advisors" have told You, latest minutes.
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 22 2024 19:58 utc | 23
It is not surprising, since the collapse of the USSR there has always been poverty in Ukraine; millions of ukrainian men migrated in search of work to Russia and Europe. Now, for the sake of democracy and freedom, they are locked up by the decision of the psychopathic idiot Zelensky. No job no money.
Posted by: Psycho | Apr 22 2024 20:01 utc | 24
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
I recently got banned from a forum for introducing Dmitry Orlov’s concept of “Russophrenia”. Basically I was challenging the point that half the comments were proclaiming that President Putin was weak and about to be overthrown, at the same the other half of the comments were convinced that Russia was the greatest threat of all time and was about to sweep across Europe.
In some ways it was a relief to be finally banned, none of them were interested in anything approaching a different viewpoint.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 22 2024 20:04 utc | 25
A lot of billionaires and multi-millionaires from the Global South would rather keep their wealth in western countries. Not because they think they're economically stronger than BRICS, but because they know that US/UK-led West will never threaten private wealth. China might, or rather: will. Because US/UK are capitalist states, while China is a socialist state with capitalist elements in its economy.
Posted by: smuks | Apr 22 2024 16:38 utc | 214
You do know that in 1933 the US (under FDR) effectively confiscated all privately held gold, effectively paying $20.67 USD per oz. Then a year later (1934) repriced gold at $35 USD per oz?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
How are you so confident this could not happen again?
Posted by: forceOfHabit | Apr 22 2024 20:12 utc | 26
@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 22 2024 20:04 utc | 25
In some ways it was a relief to be finally banned, none of them were interested in anything approaching a different viewpoint.That sounds familiar... madness of crowds I guess.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 20:14 utc | 27
I read something on Lavrov saying they will have to give the Europeans a demonstration that will make them think twice about attacking Russia.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 19:09 utc | 13
I have to correct that as rereading I realized it wasn't Lavrov said that. Rather a comment on Lavrov speaking on the dangers of war with Europe going nuclear.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 20:20 utc | 28
Kieve and its environs are living on borrowed time in a dream world which is rapidly coming to an end (i.e.: see an almost total lack of electrical power and heat)..............much like Paris in April 1940 during the "phony war" period when French civilians went on their merry way living through decadence and frolic.....
Everywhere on the eastern front the UFA lines are now creaking, cracking and giving way.....it will not be long now before the entire house of cards collapses with a giant boom........(one month?)
Shortages of trained personnel, arty ammo, AA missiles, lousy leadership, extended tours of duty (much like the extension of the USAAF 8th AAF WWII 25 mission go home card to the 35 mission go home card) will destroy troop morale, and finally mindless mass assaults against RF forces with plenty of arty ammo, superior air cover, tons of AA missiles, good leadership (UFA efforts are reminiscent of Verdun French orders, charge over the top or be executed), spell disaster for the NATO inspired deep state efforts to destroy Russia........
Russia now needs to push the pedal to metal, and accelerate the efforts to collapse the UFA house of cards, before any of the new US equipment and support arrives...........disable every single rail bridge and locomotive shop, every single power plant and 750 station, every single oil tank farm, every single NG pressure pumping station, every single dock and transfer point in Odessa.....make the push.......take it down !!
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 22 2024 20:22 utc | 29
madness of crowds I guess
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 20:14 utc | 27
It was downright weird at times, almost as if they were scared of someone stealing their MSM comfort blanket, like young children desperately clinging on to their favourite cuddly toy. Inconvenient facts about Maidan 2014, the Odessa Trade Union fire or Crimea’s post-USSR history just didn’t count.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 22 2024 20:25 utc | 30
The Ukrainian population has been destituted for the financial benefit of the Ukrainian and Western oligarchs for over 30 years now, with things only getting much worse in the past few years.
The great shock to the Ukrainian population will be the big jump in living standards as the old people start to receive Russian pensions (more than twice as high as previous Ukrainian ones and paid promptly in a non-hyper inflating currency), and others start to receive Russian social payments and wages (same as for pensions), and all of them see the significant infrastructure investments being made and the great reduction in corruption. For example the Mariupol of today is much better than the pre-war Mariupol and its population lives better lives. Then add in new immigrants to start repopulating the land back toward its earlier population levels. A post-war baby boom is also quite possible.
The demented crazies will have run off to Europe to cause more trouble there (hopefully with a good supply of guns and explosives), so the population will be predominantly pro-Russian or on the fence. The realization of the wasted sacrifices of the Ukrainian population in lives and destroyed bodies and minds will be a huge trauma for the Ukrainian people to overcome and can form a good basis for a quite reasonable hatred of the West. Just like Chechnya, Ukraine can become a very strong Russia-supporting population in a surprisingly short number of years if handled well. This will of course be extremely annoying to the West, especially as BlackRock etc. lose all that black earth and mineral deposits.
Georgia is a positive sign of the turning of the tide as it reasserts its independence with the passing of the anti foreign influence bill. Putin is good at playing the long game, as is China.
So, the blow to the TV tower in Kharkov is remarkable.
1. Areas closer to the Russian border will receive only Russian television broadcast signals. As will Kharkov itself soon, if Kyiv does not restore broadcasting.
2. Interruptions in communication and Internet. Many people understand that the TV tower was used not only for the “TV signal”, but also for mobile networks.Hence the conclusion. A bad network means interruptions in all areas of life. Banks, government, business, communications, etc.
Here you can see a clear strategy for the slow cleansing of the city, which is being made into a huge ballast for the country’s budget. Industry (remnants) will now leave Kharkov even faster, as will the civilian population.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17778
Posted by: Down South | Apr 22 2024 20:27 utc | 32
Why always discussing about Russian/Sowjet's history here?
Actual mostly real news about that "war" are currently coming online everywhere from ..! ..?
So pls. may ignore the proven historical "events" for a while here, but look further what's really going on nowadays ..
Thanks.
Some reporting guys hope today by current analysis of the ground situation?
The ground situation is one of this US-like monopoly steps. The death rates on either sides are another issues.
.. would be an example to follow-up, even these similar authors make some "hopefully awaiting" ad-hoc results that they would wait for in their mind so far, immadiatelly. Best heard so dar - pls. continue reporting ..
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 22 2024 20:30 utc | 33
@Posted by: unimperator | Apr 22 2024 19:15 utc | 15
You take away the US$ as the reserve currency, i.e. the ability of the US to exchange goods for newly created electronic tokens of the US state at will, and much of that fluff will inflate away very quickly. That day is coming, but it is not in the Russian or Chinese interests to bring such a supernova collapse forward. That is why they are taking their time of de-dollarization.
Syrsky cannot stabilize the front in the Avdeevsky direction, which threatens to encircle the defensive positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which took three months to build.Russian troops broke through the Ukrainian defenses northwest of Avdiivka and entered the village of Ocheretino, says Bild military analyst Julian Röpke.
According to him, the Russian army advanced along the railway 3 km into the Ukrainian positions and entered the village.
The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade was transferred to Ocheretino as reinforcements.Röpke believes that the Russian Federation wants to strengthen the breakthrough and expand the bridgehead around Ocheretin.
Ocheretino is a key defense point of the Ukrainian Armed Forces north of Avdievka, as it is located at a commanding height. The loss of Ocheretino will create a threat for Ukrainian troops to be attacked in the rear and flanks in several directions at once.
On the one hand, to the south and west - to the rear of the units that are now trying to build a new line of defense in Berdychi and to the west of them. On the other hand, to the northeast with the prospect of reaching the rear of Ukrainian troops in New York and Toretsk.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22550
Colleagues, we have been writing for a long time that there is almost nothing and no one to stabilize the front. There is a shortage of literally everything, and the holes are being filled with people, losses are growing, but in the reports they are all lost without a trace.Our source indicates that the Russian Armed Forces have adopted new tactics. Now they cut through the front with quick attacks on vehicles, throwing assault groups into the enemy’s rear and fortified areas, occupying it as a point and then expanding their zones of influence and control. This is a kind of “wedge” move.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17776
Above in the publication, we insided that the Russian Armed Forces use the tactics of a conditional wedge, when a sharp forced march triggers chaos and panic in the ranks of the defenders.Now the Russian Armed Forces have partially entered the village of Ocheretino in Donbass. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine immediately justifies that there was a shift change, which the Russians took advantage of. But it's not like that.
As the source explained, the Ukrainian Armed Forces now have the same disease as the Russians in 2022, when they lost positions in the Kharkov region. According to documents, there are hundreds of fighters on the front line, but in reality there are 2-4, or even 5 times less.
Where, according to documents, the defense is held by 200 soldiers, in reality there are less than a hundred, and the situation with ammunition and equipment is even worse.
Staff rats and office fixers make great money from this, laundering money and writing off everything.
Now the “rear rats,” trying to save the situation, began to extinguish the failure by abandoning everyone, but the price of such a move is the loss of a huge amount of equipment and infantry.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17777
Posted by: Down South | Apr 22 2024 20:32 utc | 35
Our source among the Ukrainian military said that the main threat to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, against the backdrop of low morale, is the risk of a massive surrender of its soldiers, and a collapse of defense positions, which will trigger a domino effect along the entire front.Bankovaya is trying to discourage the soldiers from surrendering. To do this, they launch fake videos of Russians shooting captured Ukrainians (supposedly filmed from a UAV, etc.), but everyone understands that this is a staged act. Although this happened on both sides at the front. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were the first to kill and even torture Russians, recording it on video cameras, trying to cause fear and panic among the Russians (it didn’t work).
So far, the office officials have managed to control the situation and intimidate the Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers. But a negative trend is visible, as more and more soldiers who lack motivation are being drawn into the army. This will most likely lead to exactly this result and a “collapse” of the front.
The only question is when? The situation is unlikely to be corrected, only delayed - source. Zelensky did everything to make Ukrainians feel like serfs and not free patriots.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17775
Posted by: Down South | Apr 22 2024 20:35 utc | 36
Posted by: Down South | Apr 22 2024 20:27 utc | 32
There’s a lot of Western MSM channels showing the footage of the tower coming down, it’s difficult not to chuckle at the tone of shocked outrage from the reporters.
Already seen the following posted in comments:
Dear Mr Putin, congratulations on the accuracy of your missiles. Please could you do the BBC next? Thanks ever so much.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 22 2024 20:38 utc | 37
Once the UFA collapse begins and inevitably increases in speed and depth......then the real panic attack in the NATO councils will start.
That will signal the most dangerous period.
There will be massive MSM reports from the collapsing front alleging RF massacres of civilians (fake just like in the 1999 Kosovo War).
Warning will spout from NATO capitals ......stop now and withdraw the demands will read. NATO governments will alert airborne troops for possible deployment. Tensions will grow exponentially on daily basis
The mass hysteria will be nearly overwhelming.....and one nation will make a grave mistake, much like the BEF in May 1940, and commit a force of land soldiers to a suicidal effort to halt the RF wave.
In the age of nuclear weapons combined with panic, this will be the danger point.....stay tuned.....
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 22 2024 20:41 utc | 38
The Ukrainian population has been destituted for the financial benefit of the Ukrainian and Western oligarchs for over 30 years now, with things only getting much worse in the past few years.
The great shock to the Ukrainian population will be the big jump in living standards as the old people start to receive Russian pensions (more than twice as high as previous Ukrainian ones and paid promptly in a non-hyper inflating currency), and others start to receive Russian social payments and wages (same as for pensions), and all of them see the significant infrastructure investments being made and the great reduction in corruption. For example the Mariupol of today is much better than the pre-war Mariupol and its population lives better lives. Then add in new immigrants to start repopulating the land back toward its earlier population levels. A post-war baby boom is also quite possible.
The demented crazies will have run off to Europe to cause more trouble there (hopefully with a good supply of guns and explosives), so the population will be predominantly pro-Russian or on the fence. The realization of the wasted sacrifices of the Ukrainian population in lives and destroyed bodies and minds will be a huge trauma for the Ukrainian people to overcome and can form a good basis for a quite reasonable hatred of the West. Just like Chechnya, Ukraine can become a very strong Russia-supporting population in a surprisingly short number of years if handled well. This will of course be extremely annoying to the West, especially as BlackRock etc. lose all that black earth and mineral deposits.
Georgia is a positive sign of the turning of the tide as it reasserts its independence with the passing of the anti foreign influence bill. Putin is good at playing the long game, as is China.
Posted by: Roger | Apr 22 2024 20:26 utc | 31
All in all the recovery of Ukraine, under a benevolent regime, can recover back all the industrial and agricultural potential of the country and attract back those that fled (once they see that western europe is too expensive for them)
BTW, I just read diagonally the article itself, but think its a very nice article from 2022
An honest abstract, the article itself is a serious rarely seen case of honest analysis.
Abstract
Are the objectives of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022 based on Putin’s ideological view
of Russia’s history and the place of Ukraine in it in the process re-establishing Russia’s
position as a world power challenging US hegemony? Or are there underlying economic
objectives shared with Russia’s oligarchs to gain control of Ukraine’s mineral wealth and
strategic economic position at the crossroads of Europe and Eurasia? This article compares
the economies of Russia and Ukraine and their performance since the end of the Soviet
Union and finds that their economic structures and performance are very similar over the
last three decades, as is the domination of their respective oligarchs, but that the war has
hit Ukraine much more disastrously than sanctions have hit Russia. It concludes that Russia
does not need Ukraine’s mineral wealth but that control of Ukraine would bring Russia
economic gains. However, the principal reason for the invasion is to push back the potential
NATO advance to the Russian border, itself a reaction to US fears of Europe’s increasing
dependence on Russia for gas, and in doing so challenge US hegemony not just in Europe by
across the world by building bridges to Asia and other parts of the Global South.
Russia’s War in Ukraine: State Patriotism or
Economic Gain?
Peter Lawrence
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 22 2024 20:47 utc | 39
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
Thanks for sharing that Twitter link. While I didn't play the vid, scrolling past the comments was quite extraordinary, since I stopped reading the MSM reader comments once I got banned on MSM sites in Germany post-2014.
It's totally mind blowing. They're calling for Russia to "lose its empire", Kasparov to lead Russia "once it falls" and other totally ludicrous wet dreams these brainwashed keyboard generals come up with.
Guess they all didn't get the latest Feb 2024 instruction manual from RAND Corp., which essentially calls for a radical 180 in U.S. foreign policy and drastically toning it down when it comes to "Putin".
For those without Telegram, abridged:
The radical shift in policy recommendations seems to indicate the company has found new voices, likely the addition of structural realists to their ranks. US government officials are now waking up to the fact that they “don’t have the ability they once had to choke off another nation”(4) and that the world has moved irrevocably towards multipolarity. Given Rand’s significance in respect to US policy decisions, it’s becoming increasingly likely that the US will attempt to navigate the postwar world into a state of “Cold Peace.” And regardless of the scenario the US faces, this requires major concessions on their part to avoid dire consequences.___
1: Dobbins, J., Cohen, R. S., Chandler, N., Frederick, B., Geist, E., DeLuca, P., Morgan, F. E., Shatz, H. J., & Williams, B. (2019, April 24). *Extending Russia: Competing from Advantageous Ground*. RAND. https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html
2: Priebe, M., & Charap, S. (2024, February 9). The Day After: Postwar U.S. strategy toward Russia. RAND. https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RBA2510-1.html
Posted by: Nervous German | Apr 22 2024 21:06 utc | 40
I have read that Russel Bentley also know as the Donbass Cowboy has been tortured and killed by the Russians. In a European newspaper.
That makes no sense to me, at all.
Anyone with any info?Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
I talked to Texas via email in early 2015. The memorial below captures the man and his life perfectly. As for "who done it", all of the murders of Donbass heroes, Motorola, Givi, Zakharchenko, are unsolved and controversial. As many will point fingers at the FSB as the SBU/CIA/MI6. After all, a controversial hero of mid 2014, Strelkov, is rotting in prison for wrong-speech.
The history of Texas or life according to the covenant of CheRussell "Texas" Bentley decided to come to Donetsk when he saw a photo of a dying Luhansk woman after an airstrike on the city administration on June 2, 2014. He just read a lot about Che Guevara and remembered the main commandment of the revolutionary: "Respond to any injustice anywhere in the world." Only romantics who still live in the last century do this, but by chance one of them came to us.
It was difficult for him to settle in this world, for 54 years he was looking for his home, visited almost all the continents of the planet, and finally found a place where he was calm and confident — the city of Donetsk, Petrovsky district, Trudovskie. It was there that he settled with his wife, a local teacher. He converted to Orthodoxy, got married, fought off the "Donetsk airport" with weapons in his hands, getting serious pneumonia there.
The paradox of Russell's choice was indeed like a consolation gift from the universe: I don't have Che Guevara for you right now, but I do have Texas. Nothing worse. A fairy-tale character, which in our cynical world could not be. But contrary to the laws of nature, I was, and only in Donetsk did I feel protected.
Yesterday, a teacher I knew called me, and while crying, she recalled how at the funeral of Alexander Zakharchenko, I impulsively approached her and gave my neck scarf to wipe away my tears. This handkerchief is still with her. And then he often came to visit her students, a few months ago they all watched a cartoon together, when they parted, a soldier of the Vostok battalion was presented with a toy Cheburashka – he was happy as a child.
The natural true guarantee of unconditional Victory is to never lose your humanity. That's what Texas told me in our first and only interview, when I asked him about his attitude to prisoners. He was a little ashamed to feel sorry for them, but he couldn't help it. There is a beautiful expression: when the soul does not lie to the sword, the soul is cleaner, and the sword is sharper. It's about Texas.
Ekaterina Lymarenko, especially for the @wargonzo project
Posted by: Drifter | Apr 22 2024 21:06 utc | 41
I wonder how such total detachment from reality can happen, but I don't have any answers.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
Total Ignorance of the reality outside the dysfunctional bubbles/ echochamber these people inhabit.
How many of these individuals have ever been involved/or witnessed unfiltered war and carnage?
It's all abstract war gaming for many of the Professor Tim types.
The Russians aren't playing games and they're through with talking much at this point in time.
Posted by: jpc | Apr 22 2024 21:11 utc | 42
“In eternal memory of Russell "Texas" Bentley”
His death confirmed by his wife on his telegram nearly a week now.
https://t.me/s/TXDPR
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 22 2024 21:15 utc | 43
RAND seems to be 'always right' as far as proven til today.
But from now on, RAND has to create a new paper for the actualb 2024/25 years plus following, concerning the defeat of Russia + India + China powers still operating against Hillaries/Nulands and their friends of deep state perating behind the CIA- + MI6 Scenes ..
That's above mentioned, is only a remark here today, unless other obvious involvements planned into the Russia/China military/economics by direct threats being on-going.
Let's wait what NK-Peoples, or Thai-Peoples, or Chinese People, or even S-Korean people would have thought actually before going to it's new ' Demogratic' In-House elections.
To calm down MoAs here, please: A Nuclear war is out-of-order - for sure, due to Russia/China/NK cababilities. US-Gov understood?
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 22 2024 21:23 utc | 44
2: Priebe, M., & Charap, S. (2024, February 9). The Day After: Postwar U.S. strategy toward Russia. RAND. https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RBA2510-1.html
Posted by: Nervous German | Apr 22 2024 21:06 utc | 40
Apart from the part to the US "don't be a dick!" after the war or you'll end up losing more... the rest is made up of unlikely scenarios and non sequiturs...
my 2 cents
(not even) close but no cigar!
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 22 2024 21:35 utc | 45
I’ve read here and elsewhere that Ukraine has been programmed with a degenerate culture that makes people shrug and not care as long as whatever it is doesn’t happen to them personally.
Posted by: Moonraker | Apr 22 2024 17:52 utc | 7
Lmao. And what makes you think that that is typical of only Ukraine. Lol. It's a global Western late 20thC malaise. It's variously called Comfortably Numb; political disenfranchisement; the ME Generation; couldn't give a fuck about others; take what I can, give nothing back; let others do the lifting; the moral corruption of society. Ukraine only SEEMS WORSE because its degradation since 1991 was left unchecked and floushished through the slimiest politicians in all of Europe for 30 years. And this is what ya get when it gets to a tipping point the neighbours (RF) don't like! But the others will catch up, don't you worry.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 22 2024 22:14 utc | 46
Map coverage (i.e. ignoring airstrikes, geopolitics, and posited future attacks) from Dima: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvR2T0Ay5I
Advances inside Oche (taking a larger fraction of it).
Berdichi STILL has not fallen (minute 13ish) and is a problem area as it flanks the RFA LOC to Oche.
NovoMyk completely taken.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 22 2024 22:16 utc | 47
I have read that Russel Bentley also know as the Donbass Cowboy has been tortured and killed by the Russians. In a European newspaper.
That makes no sense to me, at all.
Anyone with any info?
Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
Oh ffs mate. This topic has been discussed in MoA for nearly a week now. If you're gunna visit a forum intermittently, how about YOU READ IT before posting. Do you think this is a free question and answer service because you're too fkn kazy to keep up.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 22 2024 22:21 utc | 48
Ukraine has stopped all consular services to its citizens abroad.
The only way to receive any consular services at all is to return to Ukraine.
That should shed some light to the gravity of the situation.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 22 2024 22:22 utc | 49
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 22 2024 20:04 utc | 25
Yes, life is often a process of discovering the many places you don't want to go near. :)
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 22 2024 22:26 utc | 50
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 22 2024 22:21 utc | 48
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Please show some respect to "g wiltek". Their posting usually adds value to the site.
It may be wise for you to take notes ...
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2024 22:45 utc | 51
WW1 style video on the battle line, the trenches seen are quickly improvised and aren't good enough to protect anyone, in conditions of artillery barrages and FABs no one would stand a chance. Any command making men hold this ground is criminal. If this is the state of the AFU and their defensive lines then they are in seriously bad shape. Have to admit they don't lack courage, or have resigned themselves to their fate.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 22 2024 23:01 utc | 52
@g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
Clarification: I don't mean to say it is true Texas "has been tortured and killed by the Russians", but it is likely true he is deceased, which is obviously disastrous in itself.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:55 utc | 22
As posted above, the death of Bentley had been known for a while.
Iirc he went missing after a missile strike by Ukraine collapsed a building. He was found dead 4 days later. No cause of death given, but presumably in the strike.
Posted by: Mary | Apr 22 2024 23:14 utc | 53
Please show some respect to "g wiltek". Their posting usually adds value to the site.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2024 22:45 utc | 51
You bung on about showing respect. And maybe his other posts are good. But how about g wiltek (and others) show respect for others who know how to use the MoA search function for info on a topic which interests them which is a week old, instead of just lobbing in with late MSM news. He can also use Yandex and Telegram to seek out better facts.
People do that all the time here -- lazily post a question, already covered, and just sit back for a few hours, letting OTHERS waste THEIR TIME reposting past info instead of their own time educating themself.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 22 2024 23:25 utc | 54
Posted by: ossi | Apr 22 2024 17:52 utc | 6
Stating you will sanction and actually sanctioning are two different things. Check out EU imports from Russia.
I have read that Russel Bentley also know as the Donbass Cowboy has been tortured and killed by the Russians. In a European newspaper.
That makes no sense to me, at all.
Anyone with any info?
Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 19:43 utc | 18
As posted above, the death of Bentley had been known for a while.
Iirc he went missing after a missile strike by Ukraine collapsed a building. He was found dead 4 days later. No cause of death given, but presumably in the strike.
Posted by: Mary | Apr 22 2024 23:14 utc | 53
Thanks Mary. MSM using this death yet again. As if every soldier in the Donbass would not recognise this man. (A bit over the top of me but close. )
ABOUT ......then the real panic attack in the NATO councils will start.
That will signal the most dangerous period.
There will be massive MSM reports from the collapsing front alleging RF massacres of civilians (fake just like in the 1999 Kosovo War).
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 22 2024 20:41 utc | 38
I agree that's quite possible and could unfold like that. There's another view that suggests it might all end with a whimper, like Afghanistan did ... where the only panic are helicopters landing on the roofs of embassies in Kiev extracting left over NATO troops, CIA operatives and Zs coke and cash in trunks.
I'm thankful I gave up doing projections and forecast last year. It's far less stressful and energy consuming simply waiting for what happens to happen and then see where the chips lay. But I admit it is hard not fantasizing outcomes I'd prefer. I forget about them as soon as they arise mow. Because it doesn't matter in the least.
Having lost all compassion and empathy for 'west fascist corrupt' Ukraine and her people (getting their just desserts) makes it easier to not worry about it. America's turn will come too. Karma is a right bitch - you can get away with thing for decades and then suddenly it all comes back at once.
cheers LD
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 0:01 utc | 57
Melaleuca | Apr 22 2024 21:15 utc | 43
Thanks. Good people dying. Not good.
Another on the kill list. He was SBU at the time of the US/UK coup. From then till 2018 he worked with Russia then got out of the place with a lot of documents. Started a website and posted images of the documents there plus some good first hand accounts of the various Nazi groups that formed then.
He was killed not long back. The US way of doing things...
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 23 2024 0:10 utc | 58
Hello good humans!
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
I watched it on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVs2y-YeiFM
From my POV as a newbe when it comes to these things, at 50:17 he did kind of answer why they are so obsessed with crimean bridge. Maybe it will help others like me who are not so knowledgeable.
I did find this striking at 26:48 when he blames Elon Musk alone for hindering Ukraine to win the war. Hopefully Musk has done his homework regarding bodyguards.
At 40:40 he mentions technologies that Ukraine has which Taiwan needs but will go to Russia and China if Russia wins, I wonder what that is.
Posted by: dontmindme | Apr 23 2024 0:14 utc | 59
After all, a controversial hero of mid 2014, Strelkov, is rotting in prison for wrong-speech.
Posted by: Drifter | Apr 22 2024 21:06 utc | 41
New names or not so often usernames heading down this track. Strelkov was an idiot and like the cook stepped over the line. Only difference between him and the cook was the cook had built a huge number of enemies on his way to being an oligarch. He killed a number of airforce people on his march on Moscow.
It was only when, or not before Strelkov was removed that the tide was turned in 2014. Replaced by elected leaders, referendum, Russia had something it could work with on the international stage.
Those militia leaders that emerged were not the same cloth as Strelkov. Nor the elected civilian leaders.
Shit popping up like worms coming out of the woodwork to insinuate that nazis who had him on the kill list would never do such a thing and it was the evil Russians.
Bloody messed up shithead.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 23 2024 0:28 utc | 60
Well. It gave me a chuckle. From a thread elsewhere, and nowhere important, re the Ukraine front:
Post 1:situation in ouch-er-wherethefuk. (Ocheretyne) The orks (Russians) have taken this village. |~ [{settle down “anonymous”, it ain’t your precious Berdyshitsville}]
Post 2: Wtf? We just sent them another 80 billion. How could they possibly be losing?
Post 3: it wasn't enough, send more
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 23 2024 0:30 utc | 61
Shit popping up like worms coming out of the woodwork to insinuate that nazis who had him on the kill list would never do such a thing and it was the evil Russians.
Bloody messed up shithead.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 23 2024 0:28 utc | 60
Well, it's Monday, everybody is back at work.
Agree about Strelkov, Strelkov was all about Strelkov. "Me, me, only me!"
Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 23 2024 0:33 utc | 62
Both Strelkov and the cook were such idiots they became assets of the west and in the last months of their stupidity were much quoted in western media.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 23 2024 0:39 utc | 63
>Berdichi STILL has not fallen (minute 13ish) and is a problem area as it >flanks the RFA LOC to Oche.
You sound like a broken record. Please seek professional help.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 23 2024 0:45 utc | 64
Bloody messed up shithead.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 23 2024 0:28 utc | 60
In a war, anyone who gets their name in the media, be it corporate or social, more often than a President (incl their OFFICIAL spokesman), Chief or Armed Forces, or Foreign Minister is suss in my books.
Only a partial list:
Prighozin, Strelkov, Budanov, Arestovich, Ashton-Cirillo, Lindsay Graham and other loudmouth US Congressmen, ANY MERCENARY (incl that UK turd and Bentley. EVen Medvedev imo talks more shit than is necessary.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 23 2024 0:50 utc | 65
Telegram.
Russians With Attitude
A story about “Texas” from someone who knew him.
The radio blared. It seemed to vie with the gunfire strafing Donetsk airport's runway.
- What's he yelling for? Everything's clear. They attack; we cover.
"Givi" shouted curses non-stop over the radio. His tanks were targeting the middle floors of the "new terminal". The fire points "Monastery" and "Stripes" kept up suppressive fire, preventing the Ukrainian forces from moving their equipment within direct shooting range.
- Wake everyone in the armory. Bring ammo. There's going to be a lot of work.
The soldier ran down the stairs to the first floor. Just past the third door down the corridor was an ammo storage, and several militiamen were sleeping there.
After shoving them aside and grabbing several loaded machine gun belts, crates of ammo, and rifles, the soldiers spread out.
The main firing points were on the staircase landings of the women's monastery. It was called "The Three" simply because it had three floors. Due to constant tank shelling, the thick walls had formed convenient firing positions.The blond-haired soldier took his place between the first and second floors.
He was indifferent to what exactly was being shouted over the radio.
He didn't speak Russian. Only a few commands and strong curses, which practically replaced all the necessary words in war, were familiar to him.
The blond-haired soldier was an American citizen.It was strange to see an American methodically unloading magazine after magazine from a Kalashnikov rifle towards the fighters of a country supported by the USA. But the fact remained. He had come to Donbass to defend the Russians.
A ringing started in his ears. It was a hit near the monastery, by the south entrance. Everyone flinched. That's where one of the observation posts was located.
- Run there. Check where it hit and if everyone's alive?
Inhaling the frosty air, our soldier and the blond-haired American ran down the corridor. Bricks were falling from the ceiling. Artillery was firing at them.
A strong wind blew through gaping holes. Fingers turned into icy phalanges. Faces began to pale. But an order was an order.
Having reached the observation point, the soldiers plunged into a fog of dust and snow. Everything was demolished. It was nearly impossible to understand what was where.
Having ascertained by some incredible stroke of luck that the post was empty, they prepared to leave. But the ground shifted under their feet again. Their ears rang. Their bodies wouldn't respond.After gathering their strength, the duo returned to their commander.
The American was again placed by a hole in the wall. His task was to lay down suppressive fire. His fingers refused to obey his brain's signals. Concussion and cold made themselves felt in full measure.
- Focus all artillery on the tower.
Again, the radio yelled. Again, "Givi's" voice penetrated every soldier's consciousness.
The control tower was directly opposite the “Three". Our soldiers shifted their fire there. The American's eyes lit up with flashes from his AK. Right now, he was a Russian lad, a communist, a man who believed in truth.
- "Everest", our first group’s in. Need to send more.
- Who entered?
- My guys. "Sparta". 40 strong.
"Motorola" burst into the airwaves. That meant everything was going well. That meant everything was according to plan.
The fight lasted another four days. At best, sleep came a few hours at a time. The soldiers were wounded, shell-shocked, and frozen to the core, but they completed their orders. During the storming of the new terminal of the Donetsk airport, not a single enemy armored personnel carrier reached the landing area intact.
It was Christmas 2015.
A few days later, the American, Russell "Texas" Bentley, would end up in the hospital with severe pneumonia and concussion, and during an attempted tank breakthrough by the Ukrainian forces (January 17), his comrades, Igor Yudin (Bulgarian), Yevgeny Belyaev (Squirrel), and Yevgeny Krasnoschekin (Friday), would die right there, between the first and second floors of the monastery.
https://t.me/RWApodcast/1236
And for those who weren’t following all this in 2014-15-16-17-18-19-20>>2022-2024.
Givi. Mikhail Sergeyevich Tolstykh. b July 19, 1980 d. February 08, 2017,
https://www.youtube.com
Leading the resistance to Ukraine-Kiev govt after the U$ coup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GYuIiKHvUM
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 23 2024 0:56 utc | 66
Reuters has a posting up with the title
Russia has up to 25,000 troops trying to storm Chasiv Yar area, Kyiv says
This must be the announcement before they admit it has been lost to Russia
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 23 2024 1:15 utc | 67
For the newbies. And us, who know, and remember how and why it started…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20iLgzmzSXc
In 2014, The Donbass militia didn’t want to be Russians.
They wanted to be Ukrainians, but independent.
Not dictated to by a foreign (U$) controlled government in Kiev.
Ten long bloody pointless years…. And the end is in sight? Not really.
The Ukrainian military might be yielding, but the U$NATO masters are not yet ready to capitulate.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 23 2024 1:26 utc | 68
reply to
How does China hold US debt if its biggest rating agency says the US is insolvent?
As for Ukr. collapse, I think Russia could precipitate that by doing cauldrons on some big defended cities. Forcing trapped soldiers into massive surrenders may trigger a crash generally.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 23 2024 1:29 utc | 69
psychohistorian | Apr 23 2024 1:15 utc | 67
Chasie barhumbug.
Has beryshitsville “fallen” yet…. Nothing, twould seem, is as important as berdyshitsville.
At least to some obsessives.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 23 2024 1:29 utc | 70
Reuters has a posting up with the title
Russia has up to 25,000 troops trying to storm Chasiv Yar area, Kyiv says
This must be the announcement before they admit it has been lost to Russia
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 23 2024 1:15 utc | 67
Lately I just check were the Azov are, if nearby, a retreat is underway
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 23 2024 1:53 utc | 71
The deputy speaker of the Slovak Parliament Luboš Blaha:
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American Congress approves aid to the Banderites for Hitler's birthday. Americans approve a billion-dollar package against Russia and make sure it's a day that symbolizes the Nazi beast that wiped out 27 million people in the USSR. Is that okay?
And sending money to a regime that is not shy about glorifying Bandera, a Nazi collaborator whose animals committed war crimes against Russians, Jews, Poles and Slovaks.
I have always hated fascism and I say this in all seriousness - I do not consider the date of April 20 to be a coincidence. And I believe that there are still enough people in the United States who are convinced that Hitler should have exterminated us - not only Russians, but all Slavs.
And they send billions to Ukraine today not because of any humanistic ideals. They just hate Russians, that's all. That's what they have in common with the Nazi bastard who wanted to defeat the Russians in WWII.
But remember where he ended up thanks to the Russians. It will eventually be the same with modern day fascists. And no amount of money will help them.
And cannot come soon enough! LD
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 2:00 utc | 72
Vale Russell "Texas" Bentley
I'm not sure which year I used to watch his youtube dispatches from the front ... my first close encounter with individuals fighting in the Donbass. His songs were good too. He really cut through. Of course the fascists at YT wiped them all.
Rest in Peace good soul. You will be remembered fondly with the greatest of respect. Condolences to his wife, family and friends everywhere.
LD & family
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 2:06 utc | 73
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Re: Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 22 2024 20:22 utc | 29
Everywhere on the eastern front the UFA lines are now creaking, cracking and giving way.....it will not be long now before the entire house of cards collapses with a giant boom........(one month?)Shortages of trained personnel, arty ammo, AA missiles, lousy leadership, extended tours of duty (much like the extension of the USAAF 8th AAF WWII 25 mission go home card to the 35 mission go home card) will destroy troop morale, and finally mindless mass assaults against RF forces with plenty of arty ammo, superior air cover, tons of AA missiles, good leadership (UFA efforts are reminiscent of Verdun French orders, charge over the top or be executed), spell disaster for the NATO inspired deep state efforts to destroy Russia........
Russia now needs to push the pedal to metal, and accelerate the efforts to collapse the UFA house of cards, before any of the new US equipment and support arrives...........disable every single rail bridge and locomotive shop, every single power plant and 750 station, every single oil tank farm, every single NG pressure pumping station, every single dock and transfer point in Odessa.....make the push.......take it down !!
Pure delusion.
None of this will happen any time soon - there will be no Russian troops in Odessa during 2024 - count on it.
Certainly the Ukrainians will not collapse before June!!
Absolute delusion Tobias if you really believe any of this!
Posted by: Julian | Apr 23 2024 3:15 utc | 74
A few Relevant, historical insightful observations
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If you wonder how the world could stumble into World War III much as it did into World War I a century ago all you need to do is look at the madness that has enveloped virtually the entire U.S. political/media structure over Ukraine where a false narrative of white hats vs. black hats took hold early and has proved impervious to facts or reason.
The original lie behind Official Washington’s latest “group think” was that Russian President Vladimir Putin instigated the crisis in Ukraine as part of some diabolical scheme to reclaim the territory of the defunct Soviet Union, including Estonia and other Baltic states. Though not a shred of U.S. intelligence supported this scenario, all the “smart people” of Washington just “knew” it to be true.
-Robert Parry: Who’s Telling the ‘Big Lie’ on Ukraine? Sept. 2, 2014
https://consortiumnews.com/2021/12/08/robert-parry-whos-telling-the-big-lie-on-ukraine/
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Quotes about the "Big Lie" approach (older, not yet censored page)
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Big_lie&oldid=3085641
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On February 23rd, Ilia Kyva, a member of the Ukrainian parliament... posted on Telegram that Zelenskyy has accumulated more than $1.2 billion US dollars during the first two and half years of his presidency, stored in multiple accounts at Dresdner Bank Lateinamerika in Costa Rica, saying: “Regular replenishment in ragged tranches of $12 to $35 million comes through various channels, such as from Rinat Akhmetov and Viktor Pinchuk through First Union Bank and Deutsche Bank, as well as Ihor Kolomoyskyi from his Geneva accounts at Banque Nationale de Paris,” Kyva posted on his Telegram channel, saying: “Every president and his team, after his tenure, walked away as dollar billionaires, and Zelenskyy... was no exception, just in his case, no one will let him just walk away.” Kyva says that the movement of such funds would be impossible without the assent of the German and French authorities and he vows to prosecute Zelenskyy. Kyva also claims that Zelenskyy bought a villa in Miami for $34 million, as well as several sets of jewelry for $5.6 million.
- Alexandra Bruce Yes, Really,LewRockwell.com, March 5, 2022
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/03/no_author/ukrainian-president-zelenskyy-yes-really/
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It is enlightening to see how pugnacious the U.S. establishment... as been in dealing with the Ukraine crisis. The crisis arguably began when the Yanukovich government rejected an EU bailout program in favor of one offered by Russia. The mainstream media (MSM) have virtually suppressed the fact that the EU proposal was not only less generous than the one offered by Russia, but that, whereas the Russian plan did not preclude further Ukrainian deals with the EU, the EU plan would have required a cut-off of further Russian arrangements. And whereas the Russian deal had no military clauses, that of the EU required that Ukraine affiliate with NATO. Insofar as the MSM dealt with this set of offers, they not only suppressed the exclusionary and militarized character of the EU offer, they tended to view the Russian deal as an improper use of economic leverage, “bludgeoning,” but the EU proposal was “constructive and reasonable” (Ed., NYT, November 20, 2014).
- Edward S. Herman https://zcomm.org/zmagazine/war-is-our-business-and-business-looks-good/ War is Our Business and Business Looks Good, ''Z Magazine'' (28 June 2014)
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Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy.
- George F. Kennan, "Foreword to 'The Pathology of Power'" by Norman Cousins (Norton, 1987)
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It is now highly feasible to take care of everybody on Earth at a higher standard of living than any have ever known. It no longer has to be you or me. Selfishness is unnecessary and henceforth unrationalizable as mandated by survival. War is obsolete. It could never have been done before. Only ten years ago... technology reached the point where it could be done. Since then the invisible technological-capability revolution has made it ever easier so to do.
It is a matter of converting the high technology from weaponry to livingry... With the highest aeronautical and engineering facilities of the world redirected from weaponry to livingry production, all humanity would have the option of becoming enduringly successful.
All previous revolutions have been political—in them the have-not majority has attempted revengefully to pull down the economically advantaged minority. If realized, this historically greatest design revolution will joyously elevate all humanity to unprecedented heights.
- Buckminster Fuller, Critical Path 1981
https://archive.org/details/LIBRORBuckminsterFullerCriticalPath
Posted by: Toby C | Apr 23 2024 3:39 utc | 75
Posted by: Julian | Apr 23 2024 3:15 utc | 74
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Russia doesn't need to militarily conquer Odessa. They can take it when they negotiate a settlement with the next President. Zelensky's mandate has expired and he can't legally sign a settlement. He's just another Ukrainian, as far as Putin is concerned.
If you've seen the reports of the mass surrender this week, the Ukrainians are inches away from a total collapse. When it happens isn't important. That it is inevitable is what matters and nothing the West can do about it. Even the sentiment in the Eastern EU countries is starting to soften towards Russia. Who knew that Nazis were so unpopular in that part of the world? No one likes to back a loser and NATO has demonstrated that its doctrines, strategy, and leaders are all losers. Luh-hoo-suh-herrs.
Then, in return for stopping short of the Polish border, Russia will take Odessa off of Ukraine's hands. Ukraine won't need it. The Russians haven't come this far to allow NATO to reconstitute Ukraine right on Russia's border over the next decade.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2024 4:35 utc | 76
Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2024 4:35 utc | 76
Then, in return for stopping short of the Polish border, Russia will take Odessa off of Ukraine's hands. Ukraine won't need it. The Russians haven't come this far to allow NATO to reconstitute Ukraine right on Russia's border over the next decade.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Putin’s history (the best predictor of future events is past events) suggests he will do a deal with his “friends and partners” in The West that will fall well short of securing Odessa or Kiev for Russia in return for “peace in our time”.
I would be willing to take a wager that this will happen in early 2025 if anyone wants to take me up on it.
For the record - I live closer to South Pole than any of you if you want to find me!
I would add - most of the territory in Ukraine that Russia holds today was taken in 2014 - not since 2022.
Posted by: Julian | Apr 23 2024 5:00 utc | 77
An excellent take by the Duran on the political situation in Germany, the more the Quisling elites feel threatened the more they will double down and try to delegitimize their opponents (especially the AfD).
Sahra Wagenknecht and the new left in Germany
The CDU/CSU would just be more of the same, like the Blairite Labour Party. The German elite have set their nation on the path of decline and they will not turn back unless there is a political revolution. And even then the US bosses may intervene through the captured German secret service (the BND) and the media etc.
@ Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
thanks for sharing that.. timothy synder is one of the best paid propagandists for the usa empire.. if you want revisionist history, that is full of shit - that is the guy you go to - bloodlands, and etc. etc.. the guy is off the charts full of shite.. unfortunately for the usa, he is one of their main propaganda go to guys, lol..
@ Nervous German | Apr 22 2024 21:06 utc | 40
thanks also for sharing that bit of recent news.. much appreciated..
@ Roger | Apr 23 2024 5:03 utc | 78
thanks for that and all else you share.. i will look at it now..
Posted by: james | Apr 23 2024 5:14 utc | 79
Posted by: Julian | Apr 23 2024 5:00 utc | 77
..."Putin's history, the best predictor of future events is past events... "
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Oh ffs. What an imbecilic thing to say. Have you never heard of CIRCUMSTANCES, of free will and choice, of evolution of mind, of escalating needs. I suppose we can predict what you think tomorrow because of what you thought yesterday. Yep, that's pretty evident from your fixed mindset and for other such ideologues round here.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 23 2024 5:19 utc | 80
Posted by: Julian | Apr 23 2024 5:00 utc | 77
..."Putin's history, the best predictor of future events is past events... "
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Oh ffs. What an imbecilic thing to say. Have you never heard of CIRCUMSTANCES, of free will and choice, of evolution of mind, of escalating needs. I suppose we can predict what you think tomorrow because of what you thought yesterday. Yep, that's pretty evident from your fixed mindset and for other such ideologues round here.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 23 2024 5:19 utc | 81
via RT - LAVROV
The US-led collective West could cause a potentially catastrophic war between global nuclear powers due to its openly hostile stance toward Russia and efforts to undermine existing arms control agreements, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Monday.
Addressing the Moscow Nonproliferation Conference organized by the Centre for Energy and Security Studies, Lavrov noted that the globe is in a state of crisis with regard to mechanisms for arms control, disarmament, and nonproliferation and that this jeopardizes international security. He placed the blame for this on Washington, which, according to the diplomat, has been “cynically combining the deliberate destruction of balanced and equal [arms control] agreements” with “blatantly dishonest schemes” that are advantageous solely to the US.
Lavrov explained that the US and allies were responsible for blocking the recent review cycles of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), which, Lavrov says Washington long used to pressure its foes. He also noted the potential danger posed by the three-way AUKUS agreement between the US, UK and Australia, which is becoming “increasingly similar to a military bloc,” as well as NATO, which has been boosting its military spending.
According to the senior official, the West’s support for Ukraine is also fraught with danger, especially as the three major Western nuclear powers, the US, UK and France, are among the main sponsors of the “criminal Kiev regime” and the “main organizers” of provocations against Russia.
The US and their NATO client states are still dreaming of inflicting a ‘strategic defeat’ on Russia and are ready to carry on with their policy of deterring our country ‘to the last Ukrainian…’ The West is balancing on the dangerous edge of a direct military confrontation between nuclear powers, which could have catastrophic consequences.
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 5:28 utc | 82
I keep remembering what was said on April 11
"Very soon the only topic of any international meetings on Ukraine will be the unconditional capitulation of the Kiev regime. I advise you all to prepare for this."
Posted by: Ezzie | Apr 23 2024 5:28 utc | 83
thanks for sharing that.. timothy synder is one of the best paid propagandists for the usa empire.. if you want revisionist history, that is full of shit - that is the guy you go to - bloodlands, and etc. etc.. the guy is off the charts full of shite.. unfortunately for the usa, he is one of their main propaganda go to guys, lol..
Posted by: james | Apr 23 2024 5:14 utc | 79
WOW Is that really you James, or a sock-puppet pretending to be you?
What's with all the lead in your pencil all of a sudden...
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 5:33 utc | 84
It looks like Russia is preparing for a major move. Sappers clearing mines along the Sumy and Kharkov region border.
I read something on Lavrov saying they will have to give the Europeans a demonstration that will make them think twice about attacking Russia.
Frontlines appear to be moving faster now as Ukraine runs out of men an equipment.
Possibly a move limited to those two border regions or possibly something that will sweep down through the Donetsk region behind the current Ukie frontlines.
Judging by the way the SU-25's are freely flying over Kharkov, the time is ripe for a major move.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 19:09 utc | 13
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And always keep in mind the speed of advance,
It is still mud time in the black earth, and heavy vehicles can hardly make any progress.
I was told by two separate sources that the Russians flew by plane, very large aircraft, up to 10 of them in formation. A kind of smoke screen was sprayed during the day and not at night, the eyewitnesses assumed it was to prevent the satellites from seeing larger areas... troop concentration/movement - who knows?
But as I said, until about mid-May and the end of May there is mud season there depending on the weather, at the moment it's more like rain, snow, mud that comes from the sky. Only when the ground is stable can something bigger happen.
AND by mid-May, NATO had completed stationing around 140,000 men from the Baltics to Poland on the Belarusian/Russian/Ukrainian border under the guise of maneuvers and other designations.
Why ? Fear ? or intervention?
Motto in Ukraine and the West...Odessa must not fall then it's over!
Posted by: ossi | Apr 23 2024 5:41 utc | 85
It’s been 10hours since I checked .
Has berdyshitville fallen yet?
Please please anonymous, I need an update!!
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 23 2024 6:10 utc | 86
Scott Ritter: "Coup in Kiev is coming" ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Zelensky on his way out ?
Posted by: WMG | Apr 23 2024 6:10 utc | 87
📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 23 April 2024; pub. 06:50📍🎯 The RFAF struck enemy targets in #Odessa and #Ochakov in the #Nikolayev region at night, explosions sounded in the #Kiev and #Cherkassy regions, as well as in #KrivoyRog. During the day, there was an intensive destruction of targets in the #Kharkov region, footage of the TV tower falling in Kharkov was widely distributed.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, the RFAF has resumed heavy assault operations in #Krynki. FABs with UMPC are actively used on the enemy coast, mutual artillery attacks are ongoing.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, the RFAF repelled enemy attacks in #Rabotino and northwest of #Verbovoye. The frontline is unchanged.
🔹In the #Vremyevka sector, the RFAF are actively operating at #Staromayorskoye and #Urozhaynoye. The fortified areas of the AFU built since the summer create difficulties in advancing.
🔹In the #SouthDonetsk (#Ugledar) direction, after securing in the recently liberated #Novomikhaylovka, the next target of the RFAF are #Paraskoviyevka and #Konstantinovka, important enemy logistics points. Heavy fighting is taking place on the southern and eastern outskirts of #Krasnogorovka.
🔹West of #Avdeyevka, the main event was the daring attack of the RFAF, which allowed them to gain a foothold in #Ocheretino. There is still a cleanup of the settlement and consolidation in it. The penetration into the enemy's defences was up to 5 km. Fighting continues at the nearby #Novokalinovo.
🔹In the east of #ChasovYar, there are heavy battles for every position. The enemy is trying to pull up reserves. Zelensky voiced his fabrications that the RFAF allegedly plan to take the town by 9 May.
🛡In the #Belgorod region, a massive attack was repelled at night, a lot of targets were shot down. Also, enemy UAVs were destroyed during the day over the Yakovlevsky urban district and over the #Belgorod region. The governor said that in the #Belgorod region, a total of 120 residents of the region were killed and 651 people were injured during AFU shelling.
💥In the #Bryansk region, the settlement of #Suzemki was shelled. On the peaceful population of the #DPR, the enemy fired 53 rounds of ammunition, one civilian was wounded in #Gorlovka as a result of a UAV drop., the settlement of #Suzemki was shelled. On the peaceful population of the #DPR, the enemy fired 53 rounds of ammunition, one civilian was wounded in #Gorlovka as a result of a UAV drop.
https://t.me/two_majors/22758
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:20 utc | 88
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Frontline #Summary for the Morning of 23 April 2024; pub. 08:08⚡️🔵On the #Zaporozhye front, the fighting continues in #Rabotino and northwest of #Verbovoye. The line of contact did not change significantly. (Fig. 1)
🔵On the #Donetsk Front. the RFAF finally knocked out the Ukrainian garrison from #Novomikhaylovka.
🟡Fighting in #Krasnogorovka, #Netaylovo and #Umanskoye. No changes in the frontline.
🟡In the area of #Semyonovka and in #Berdychy continued assault actions of the RFAF, without significant successes.
🟡But there are successes in the area of #Ocheretino. There, the RFAF, in the course of successful assault operations, have made good progress. And although the remnants of the Ukrainian garrison are still on the outskirts of the settlement, its complete liberation is only a matter of time. (Fig. 2)🔵In the #ChasovYar Direction, without any special changes. Fighting continues in the area of #Bogdanovka and on the eastern outskirts of #ChasovYar. (Fig. 3)
https://t.me/sitreports/26498
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:21 utc | 89
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine stops the exchange and issuance of foreign passports outside of Ukraine.Yes Yes. We were right again. Passports will not be issued in order to force everyone to come to Ukraine, but here they will be sent straight into the meat grinder.
We will also add to you that, according to our data, our Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine is negotiating with all countries so that they deport everyone whose passport has expired to Ukraine. The money for the costs of deportation will be paid by the mobilized person from his first salary in the army. Bingo!
Zelensky decided to make the life of Ukrainians abroad “fun.” Soon they, too, will dream that the war will end somehow, most importantly quickly.
If your passport is about to expire, we hasten to warn you that there are not many countries in the world from which you will definitely not be expelled back to Ukraine.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17784
The President's Office is making a mistake by trying to force Ukrainians to return back with restrictions on passports. Such methods cause anger and push people away from Ukraine.Starting tomorrow, all Ukrainian consulates will stop providing services to men of military age
The media reported this with reference to a letter from First Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Andrei Sibiga.
From April 24, it will only be possible to prepare documents for returning to Ukraine.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22559
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:25 utc | 90
Problems at the front are growing every day; if previously there were cases of retreat or surrender of small groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, yesterday an entire brigade left its position without an order. Volunteer Tim Zlatkin writes about this.“Today it’s very difficult in Ocheretino. They say that one brigade left its position without orders,” Zlatkin wrote.
According to him, after this the Russians “immediately entered the populated area.”
“Now the fighting continues in the center with the forces of another brigade, which was supposed to rotate and resume. This is not a breakthrough yet, but it will be difficult to level the front in the important Avdeevsky direction,” the volunteer added.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22560
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:26 utc | 91
Larry C. Johnson: "Ukraine approaching sudden collapse".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU066WMjsoI
Length: 23 minutes.
Posted by: WMG | Apr 23 2024 6:39 utc | 92
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:26 utc | 91
Classics of the genre. It is not the rear rats who are to blame for abandoning the soldiers, but the brigades that “supposedly left” without orders. In simple words, they retreated.The whole scandal over Ocheretino in the Avdeevsky direction, which the Russians captured by forced march, but the headquarters and media workers of the OP began to tell the story that one of the brigades left their positions without an order.
Volunteer Tim Zlatkin writes about this.
Another of our sources indicates that most likely, the headquarters did not expect that a sharp onslaught of the Russian Armed Forces would begin so far inland and kept a symbolic number of real fighters in this locality, but according to documents there were thousands. When the Russians attacked, they got scared and left. The management realized that it smelled like something was fried and sent reserves to put out the disaster.
Do not forget that the morale of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is low and mass retreat is possible. And perhaps this is only the first puzzle of a global problem that is immediately connected with all the “versions/rumors” voiced in this post.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17785
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:40 utc | 93
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 19:45 utc | 19
The Fourth International have the measure of Kiev junta cheerleader Timothy Snyder (seen yesterday appearing with the fake Ocasio Cortez)
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/02/pnvx-d02.html
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 23 2024 6:40 utc | 94
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine stops the exchange and issuance of foreign passports outside of Ukraine.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22559
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2024 6:25 utc | 90
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Not entirely correct !
They did NOT stop issuing Ukrainian passports, that would be almost uninteresting for Ukrainians abroad.
THEY STOPPED the renewal of Ukrainian passports!
This means that if their passport has expired, Ukrainians are illegal in the respective country, regardless of whether they are refugees or not, and would then have to apply for asylum like any African without a passport who comes to Germany, for example.
What does that mean for Ukrainians in DE, right NO more preferential treatment, proof of assets or ownership of expensive cars, the latter would have to be sold before there is support, forced to work or choose support, attending German courses then becomes mandatory.
A long journey to another country is impossible, at least officially only illegal.
And you bet, it's agreed with the West, Sylenski needs soldiers. Western countries, on the other hand, have no money. Social system. Health insurance companies are at the END.
As of March 1st, 2024, contributions to health insurance FOR DEUTSCHE were increased. Because these funds are bankrupt.
Ergo, in the interest of the Germans at least that the Ukrainians disappear, Sylenski would have cannon fodder
Posted by: ossi | Apr 23 2024 6:58 utc | 95
Posted by: ossi | Apr 23 2024 6:58 utc | 95
The safest option for Ukrainians is to go to Russia.
For mobilized to find away to surrender.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2024 7:06 utc | 96
Posted by: Sam | Apr 22 2024 18:24 utc | 10
“Shareholder value” and value extraction have enriched the oligarchs during the last 50 years of neoliberal capitalism. This has been at the expense of the immiseration of the working class whose pay and conditions have declined over that time, even in the US and its vassals. Many of these immiserated and alienated people have left the workforce. Imperialist extraction of resources is the other fist of neoliberal capitalism which has used brutal violence and compradors to oppress and thieve from the working class of Iraq, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Mali, Niger, Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Yemen, the former Ukraine and Palestine.
Profits Without Prosperity by William Lazonick, Harvard Business Review 2014.
https://hbr.org/2014/09/profits-without-prosperity
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 23 2024 7:10 utc | 97
Thanks Down South for your detailed telegram reports.
But Berdyshitville!. Berydshitville HAS NOT FALLEN. Berdyshitville HOLDS.
Once more, and yet again, Russia FAILS.
Nothing can be deemed success until anonymous receives the news that finally, and at last, Berdyshitville is LOST.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 23 2024 7:19 utc | 98
The new package of American aid to Ukraine will include armored vehicles, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, HMWWV military multi-purpose vehicles, M113 armored personnel carriers, artillery and ammunition for air defense.In addition, British Prime Minister Risha Sunak said that London is preparing the largest aid package for Kyiv. It is planned to transfer 400 vehicles, 60 boats, about 4 million cartridges for small arms to Ukraine, as well as more than 1.6 thousand shock missiles and air defense missiles. Kyiv will also receive Storm Shadow air-to-ground missiles from London.
⭐️ This will not change the situation. But the conflict is prolonged.
https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1782668926562021676
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2024 7:23 utc | 99
Posted by: Honzo | Apr 22 2024 17:57 utc | 8
Honzo wrote:
"The people left holding the cash are the ones who are going to be screwed, wherever they live, if they bank in the west and hold western currency."
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Answer: every one of those 350+ million US citizens and illegal aliens (10+ million who crossed the southern border) living in the US.
Posted by: AI | Apr 23 2024 7:33 utc | 100
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I wish the russians could bring the war to the door of the americans.
It is time they get to feel the pain.
Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 22 2024 17:07 utc | 1