Ukraine Open Thread 2024-114
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Posted by b on April 20, 2024 at 13:12 UTC | Permalink
next page »Texas, raped? Must have been done by Russia's version of the Rainbow Brigade. Now if that is true, as it's being reported, they have his sodomized body....well let's hide that too, no gays in Russia, and none fighting girly boy Ukies. Sick fucks on both sides.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2024 13:40 utc | 2
Missed that last part of the report, "he failed the test of traditional Russian values." Getting ass fucked is a Russian value? Sick fucks!
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2024 13:42 utc | 3
Pepe's not alarmist because he's triumphalist but maybe too trippy a batch of cronic? I really doubt Israel would try this from another country, Azerbaijan, so they would need mid air refueling to reach Iran which means USA approval, which is far fetched - at this point at least. The jet would not fly alone it would have wingmen. Israel and USA can't be 100% certain Iran doesn't have the bomb. Silly stuff:
EXCLUSIVETHE REAL STORY OF THE ISRAELI COUNTER RESPONSE
From a very high level intel source.
In Asia.
NOT Russia-China.
Although the strategic partnership, of course, exchanges at the highest level 24-7.
Confirmed and re-confirmed.
It will be great to know what Sy Hersh hears from his Beltway sources.
Here we go.
Israel initially chose to respond with extreme force.
An F-35 loaded with a nuclear bomb was sent east over Jordan.
The mission: cause a high-altitude detonation over Iran that would provoke a surge in the high-capacity power lines, crippling Iran's electric grid, as well as disabling all electronic devices.
An EMP attack.
However... As the Israeli F-35 was leaving Jordanian airspace it was shot down by the Russian Air Force.
Hence the publicised version of the Israeli counter response was such a travesty.
In the end all sides decided not to publicise the real news - to de-escalate what could well turn into WWIII.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:43 utc | 4
Come on, sheltered Sean, you know nothing about the darker side of humanity if you think male rape has anythig to do with gay-ness, girlie-boys or such. Those who have been exposed to the nastier prisons can tell you a thing or two about "husband-wife" pairings between "straight" men, who set aside even the very awareness of "homosexuality" in order to satisfy their primitive urges. Marauding gangs in times of extreme lawlessness will brutalise anything on legs, woman, girl, man, boy, babe, sheep, donkey.
Posted by: petra | Apr 20 2024 13:49 utc | 5
So this German wants to fire missiles from countries that neigbour Ukraine to shootdown Russian missiles etc in Ukraine, this would surely be an escalation of hostilities and these neighbouring countries could find their missile launch sites targeted by Russian weapons.
"NATO should shoot down Russian missiles over Ukraine using anti-aircraft systems in eastern Poland, Nico Lange, a senior fellow at the Munich Security Conference, told the publication Tagesschau, which is part of the ARD media group.
Western support for Ukraine needs a change in strategy, said Lange, who worked at the operational headquarters of the German Defense Ministry until 2022, calling for "unconventional solutions" in the short term.
"From now on, partners must use numerous Patriot systems on our eastern borders to shoot down all Russian missiles and drones over Ukraine that are within their range," he demanded, referring to NATO air defense systems in eastern Poland."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 20 2024 13:50 utc | 6
The RF struck a Ukrainian military outlet yesterday.
"The Russian military hit an airbase and the location of the 58th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Konotop, Sergei Lebedev, coordinator of the Mykolaiv underground said.
"Last night, at about 22:00, the city of Konotop, Sumy region, received at least two strikes. They call the local air base the directions," the agency's interlocutor said.
According to the underground, helicopters were spotted at the airbase. It is located on Petliura Street, there are hangars, barracks, a canteen, bases, and an aircraft repair plant nearby. The airfield has a runway 2003 long and 45 meters wide.
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"Local residents associate the second arrival in Konotop with the location of the 58th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade at 30 Turgenev Street. This is also on the side of the air base, just before the Aviation Museum. There are no details, but there are ambulances and several blocks are cordoned off," Lebedev added.
According to local residents, the medics were not allowed to go home yesterday, and those who were at home were called to work. One of the doctors who called the family said that there was still work for at least a day."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 20 2024 13:54 utc | 7
@1 sounds like CIA propaganda. Best to discount such rumor mill stuff presented without evidence.
Meanwhile, the massive attack on Odessa seems like Russia is finally waking up and fighting the economic war. A warehouse full of vegetable oil is still burning. Some Western company just had to declare force majeure and the other party took a huge loss. The illusion of any sort of economic activity in that area is shattered.
This will cost the west as they’ll have to pay even more money just to prop up the corpse of the Ukrainian economy.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 20 2024 14:06 utc | 8
@ Bevin, §112, #194:
Yes indeed, but Slovakia must realize they´re taking on the Mafia.
The Anglo-Saxons have long ceased to be civilized.
The rot began with their support of the Jamieson Raid and the subsequent Boer Wars.
Posted by: John Marks | Apr 20 2024 14:13 utc | 9
Posted by: sean the leprechaun @ 2
Kidnapping, disappearance, mystery, rape, buggery... Com'on, comic book, pulp fiction propaganda style. Whose MO?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 14:14 utc | 10
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:31 utc | 1
Troll planted story, obviously so you end up hating Russian/DNR side ...
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 20 2024 14:16 utc | 11
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:43 utc | 4
Er, 2hat Russian aircraft shot down the F-35? Where was it based? What happened to the nuclear bomb on the shot down aircraft?
Not to you, LightYearsFromHome, but why do people post this garbage?
Posted by: Ed2 | Apr 20 2024 14:17 utc | 12
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:43 utc | 4
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Poor Pepe. With an exclusive source, it is impossible to corroborate the claim, meaning it should not be published, particularly given how Hollywood it seems.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2024 14:20 utc | 13
[email protected] more civilized among us have the ability to control our primal urges, having control over our thought process....I may well kill someone, even in the heat of battle, but satisfying a physical urge....hmm.....sounds like trying to justify the unjustifiable, if at all true, the CO should have shot them on the spot....it is war, he has that authority.
Cheers M
....I tend to go lateral on the black humour, tying up loose threads, some people miss the knot, get left hanging.....
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2024 14:25 utc | 14
@ Apollyon, §112, #257:
You reported a Telegram post about French troops arriving in Odessa, questioned by Ed2 @ §112, #260.
Is there any clarification of this?
Posted by: John Marks | Apr 20 2024 14:30 utc | 15
Right at this moment, the U.S. is about to agree to borrow/print/create money out of nowhere to purchase deadly weapons and munitions in order to give them to other countries to defend themselves "against evil."
The MIC played this perfectly, timing the escalation in hostilities in the ME with the need to pass this appropriations bill, without objection.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Apr 20 2024 14:47 utc | 16
[email protected] didn't post the article, that's my reaction too it, such things happen in war. Doesn't excuse it. If it's true, who knows the MO, if it's fake, someone ought to refute it publicly. We'll find out soon enough.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2024 14:47 utc | 17
[email protected] out of thin air, based on future projections of the amount of wealth they can extract from Russian after she is defeated and or brought to heal. It's the long game.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2024 14:51 utc | 18
Amazing how quickly some folks will latch onto a story from NEXTA.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 20 2024 14:58 utc | 19
Ukraine Weekly Update, 19th April 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-438
Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Apr 20 2024 15:06 utc | 20
remember, it was the channel NEXTA and others that basically paid people from the eu to travel to belarus and protest against lukashenko a few years ago, and then later label that as "homegrown protests against dictatorship" or whatever buzzwords they have used.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 20 2024 15:14 utc | 21
Newbie @156
Thanks for that breakdown of the numbers, here's hoping for a quick end to the SMO
Posted by: Ezzie | Apr 19 2024 23:02 utc | 203
You're welcome. And if anyone wants to keep track just scroll down to Weekly death rates, eastern Europe, swithch to ABSOLUTE an add 1.200 to the excess for the month not attributed to covid.
During Summer and early Autumn I had some doubts if numbers were being changed but the last month show it continues to be an honest and true number.
Guess why Ukraine does not publish total excess mortality since January 2022...
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2024 15:21 utc | 22
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2024 13:40 utc | 2
Human being are hateful specious. Sodomy
happens all over the world. It is just the difference is only if it is a penis,broomhandle,or a bayonet.
Now, those who are proud of this act are the rainbow coalition. Others, are not so proud so they do not use the former tool.
However, sodomizing with objects is a hateful practice, even those who commit it do not want it known.
Sodomy as a way of life is commonplace in human populations, it is widely accepted in "enlightned" people, but it is present in all humans.
Posted by: Nasir | Apr 20 2024 15:29 utc | 23
More reports of nato, mostly French troops are showing up.
Concurrently Russia is stepping up infrastructure attacks, repeatedly attacking bridges transport nodes and of course the power plants.
Everything is lining up for a winter offensive against nato, in what will be a giant 3 sided cauldron east of the dnieper.
This sets the stage for a strategic defeat of Nato and offers Russia its only chance of defeating the Ukrainian threat for a long term.
There's a lot of time yet, but I feel many data points support it, including natos repeated warnings of a summer kharkiv offensive which they would obviously want to smooth their entry into the war.
That's what I like about propaganda they can't help but spell out what they want otherwise the messaging is incoherent.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2024 15:33 utc | 24
Republic of Scotland @13:50
Here's where the pedal hits the metal. If this "Senior Fellow", Nico Lange's suggestion that NATOstani forces from outside Ukraine take to launching missiles at Russia...it would be only ironically fitting that he would be a member of the crew that shot off the bird.
Betcha he would not merely sweating his shorts at the prospect of a return "greeting" from a Russian response. Likely, his pissy-assed sphincter would stink up the place in jig-time,
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 20 2024 15:40 utc | 25
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2024 15:33 utc | 24
Nato relies on Ukraine's railways, highways and electric infrastructure to move their stuff.
It isn't a big problem in Lwow/Ivano Frankivsk region. It can potentially be a problem in Odessa region. AFAIK there have been several successful derailments of Nato ammunition trains, one in Odessa and one in Vinnytsa. A bridge was destroyed with a locomotive on it.
Ultimately, the largest potential problem is in Donbass. Pokrovsk and Pavlograd are the main hubs through which stuff comes from. Yesterday RU hit the Dnipro train station.
We have heard Nato is building defensive lines between Odessa and Nikolaev, and around in front of Kharkov. The construction workers in Kharkov using shovels report they are continuously bombed, so the work might not be very fast.
My guess is Nato troops would be deployed on the Odessa defensive lines. Or perhaps AFU is deployed there, while Nato remains inside Odessa.
Looking forward to much of Nato going home in body bags.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 15:46 utc | 26
John Marks @14:13
Both the Jameison Raid and the massive imperial attacks on the Boer Republics was all about the gold and diamonds discovered in the Witwatersrand. Cecil Rhodes, the arch-imperialist, engineered the entire outrage on behalf of the Rottenchild Crime Clan.
They simply could not resist their greedy instincts to get their grubby mitts on those "treasures". Not that the rulers from City of London were not already the world's first trillionaires by today's inflated metrics; their constant disregard for all the victims of their many wars indicates a satanic level of dissociation from the rest of the human race.
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 20 2024 15:47 utc | 27
How to waste Patriot missiles
"NATO should shoot down Russian missiles over Ukraine using anti-aircraft systems in eastern Poland, Nico Lange, a senior fellow at the Munich Security Conference, told the publication Tagesschau, which is part of the ARD media group."From now on, partners must use numerous Patriot systems on our eastern borders to shoot down all Russian missiles and drones over Ukraine that are within their range," he demanded, referring to NATO air defense systems in eastern Poland."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 20 2024 13:50 utc | 6
A Russian Geran drone recently flew over Poland for a few seconds. The Polish said they "decided" not to shoot it down.
Wasting Patriot missiles NATO from ground is no different from wasting Patriot missiles from Ukraine. If NATO really started shooting missiles into Ukraine, then the correct thing for Russia to do is fly all their Gerans along Ukraine's NATO borders. NATO will run out of Patriots long before Russia and Iran run out of mopeds.
What can the Patriot do?
The Patriot system uses two type of missiles, the older PAC-2 and the newer PAC-3. The older and larger PAC-2s have a range of 160 km, comparable to the 1980s Soviet S300. The newer PAC-3s only have a range of 20-35 km, making them the analog of the Soviet BUK. Less than 600 PAC-3s are produced each year, at a cost of $4 million each. The older but more capable PAC-2s are said to be half the price, but I do not think they are produced any longer. At best, NATO's PAC-3 Patriots could protect a 30 km zone along the Polish border.
Source: Air Defense: Where the Patriot Missile Batteries Are
In other ways the Patriots are inferior to their Soviet counterparts. The BUK missiles are launched from an armored TELARs (Transporter erector launcher and radar), that can move and point its missiles and radar at any direction. The Patriot launcher is a stationary erector trailer. Once positioned, it can only shoot missiles at one direction.
The Patriot radar and command modules are also stationary. The phased array radar only points to one direction. To cover a 360 degree field of view, one would need 4 radars. One Patriot battery typically has one battery and six launcher trailers.
The Russian S300 and S400 systems have off-road capable mobile launchers, but they need to be placed in stationary positions before they can launch their missiles. But unlike the Patriot launchers, the S300 and S400 launch tubes are vertical, meaning that the missiles can fly in any direction.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2024 15:56 utc | 28
It takes a $500 drone to destroy a 'mighty' US-made M1 Abram tank worth $10 million. Russia has destroyed 8 of them last time I counted. Further, 30 German Leopard tanks have been destroyed by the Russian forces. Ukraine has become a graveyard not only of death Ukranian soldiers but also of super expensive tanks. It looks like neo-NAZI nato is completely defeated and insolvent.
Posted by: AI | Apr 20 2024 16:01 utc | 29
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2024 15:56 utc | 28
I don't know if the Patriots are inferior than their Russian counterparts, but you left out a few things.
The radar in the Patriot battery is likely augmented by many remote sensors, including those in orbit around the earth. Thus Patriot missiles can be fired at and target something even with the Patriot battery's radar's all off. There are also a few versions of the PAC-2 which will home in on a electric emissions sources.
The various PAC-3 versions are supposed to be for ballistic missile defence. Thus depending on how you look at it, the PAC-3's are more capable than the PAC-2's
Posted by: ed2 | Apr 20 2024 16:14 utc | 30
@Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2024 15:56 utc | 28
Good points, but ..
The Russian side posted footage of the destruction of mobile Patriot batteries destroyed in the Charkov area. Also, operation of Patriot was reported in Cherson on the right bank of the Dnyepr. So, at least some mobility of Patriot radar and launchers appears possible.
Posted by: aquadraht | Apr 20 2024 16:25 utc | 31
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:31 utc | 1
If you want to find at honest information on Texas, you could do a lot worse than scan this ghost_of_novorossia TG for relevant posts and explore any other TG channels they link to on the subject. They are straight talking and appear only to promote like-minded channels.
https://t.me/ghost_of_novorossia/22289
(video attached) Forwarded from Blue Z BeardThat's all. Goodbye my friend Russell.
Russell was the hero of my last film. A real hero, a communist, a Citizen of a Great Country, for whom the idea, honor and will were more important than a calm, contemplative life in the USA.
Watch this film, where he tells his story: how he decided to come after seeing Lyudmila Kukurudza bleeding in Lugansk after the first airstrike of the Ukrainian Nazis; how he became furious looking at Nuland on the Maidan; how he fought in the Vostok battalion and was friends with Alex Castillo. Look, a lot will become clear to you about him.
It is worth saying that his death under such monstrous circumstances, which everyone knows about, is a huge reputational blow. It all looks very bad in the eyes of those, frankly speaking, few foreigners who are ready to come and support Russia.
Why is this possible? How does this happen? And will there be justice in the end? I no longer ask these questions after Bereg.
And after Murza it’s even more so.
Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 20 2024 16:35 utc | 32
@1 sounds like CIA propaganda. Best to discount such rumor mill stuff presented without evidence.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 20 2024 14:06 utc | 8
Yes, it definitely does. Can you imagine a better western propaganda story?
I suppose Texas could have been killed accidentally for his American appearance/speech, but raped? That's so salacious if makes a highly civilized Russian army look like Isis. Give me a fucking break!
The Guardian was running the story at the top of the sheet last I checked, which is circumstantial evidence that it is what it appears: imperialist propaganda.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 20 2024 17:10 utc | 33
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 20 2024 15:47 utc | 27
So Cecil Rhodes, one of the most powerful oligarchs of the global-spanning British empire, the most prominent ideologue of what would become the globalist project, instigated the Boer wars not for his own interests, but for the Rothschilds...
This is why some people are borderline hasbara, whitewashing every leech as a hapless tool of the "evil Joos". Lord Rothschild was an associate of Cecil Rhodes and not a puppet master. In fact, the majority of the British oligarchs who masterminded the effort to establish an Anglo-American empire - at that early stage centered in Britain - were WASPs. But no, once again we are informed by a luminary poster that it was only the Jewish component of the team, Lord Rothschild, who was running the show and directing the necessary colonial policies.
Who knows, if not for him and his fellow Jews, there might not be colonialism at all...
Posted by: Constantine | Apr 20 2024 17:11 utc | 34
Just reposting the article of Chasov Yar battle by Marat Khairulin. Good read for interested.
https://vestnikru.substack.com/p/the-battle-for-chasov-yar-by-the
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 17:12 utc | 35
My guess is Nato troops would be deployed on the Odessa defensive lines. Or perhaps AFU is deployed there, while Nato remains inside Odessa.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 15:46 utc | 26
The strike in Odessa from two days ago is still burning, probably a large ammo storage. Must be somehow connected. I doubt macarons will go to the front line. They'll do the barrier troop thing, organize, manage drone strikes in Black Sea and eventually will attract other countries to do the same. If they plan for +20k there must be some other logistics involved, easy to observe. But the more Lavrov reveals details about Istanbul agreements, the more it looks like Bojo did them a favor and prevented a complete surrender to be signed. China can now live with permanent US troops in Taiwan and about +8bn in weapons per year and medium range missiles in the region, so Russia can live with 10k macarons in Odessa, 100bn per year and a few more nukes at the border.
Posted by: rk | Apr 20 2024 17:13 utc | 36
Posted by: aquadraht | Apr 20 2024 16:25 utc | 31
The Patriot launchers the Germans gave Ukraine are mounted on trucks, not tailers. So pretty mobile. Evidently there was a debate about trucks or trailers for Patriot way back. The US position was something along the lines of if the truck breaks down then the launcher can't be moved. But if it is on a trailer then any other truck can pull it away. Germany may have felt that was not a big a deal as the US did.
So the German donated Patriots are more mobile than other countries.
Posted by: Ed2 | Apr 20 2024 17:16 utc | 37
@26 unimperator
RE: Odessa
Odessa is clearly the second prize behind Crimea in ukraine.
Nato will fight to keep it, to keep future operations possible. Russia may very well not take it without crossing the dnieper everywhere which would open their supply lines to interdiction and wreck their victory east of the dnieper.
Taking odessa would also provide the necessary signals for Europe to seriously rearm which would be bad foe Russian interests.
I see it as a whole separate war, but Nato will have to take serious casualties, probably in the thousands to hold it for this one. Russia will pressure to see what happens most definitely but they will leave it to secure a complete victory east of the dnieper which would include bridgeheads west of the river in kherson and zaphorizia. Russia will not cede what its claimed I think they'll fight for as long as it takes to do get it, and a signed peace treaty by an elected Ukrainian government.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2024 17:18 utc | 38
Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 20 2024 16:35 utc | 32
What are the circumstances? Is there any concise explanation as to what happened? ANd I'm not talking about the propaganda garbage by NEXTA who should have been given the exact same treatment that NATO gave to the Yugoslav TV station with its personnel present in 1999.
Of course, when it comes to PR and messaging that would bring allies and volunteers to join the struggle against NATO in Ukraine, the RF has been spectacularly lame and unsuccessful. That's the obvious consequence when you alienate yourself from your friends and allies in order to be a good liberal and show your pre-western credentials for so long. One more potentially criminal blunder won't improve things.
Still, if it is true that Bentley indeed died by DPR militants, there should be ruthless application of justice as it might involve western malfeasance.
Posted by: Constantine | Apr 20 2024 17:22 utc | 39
Just voted in the house of Congress:
the 21st Century Peace through Strength Act ... includes REPO provisions for the seizure and use of Russian assets
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 20 2024 17:31 utc | 40
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - The US House of Representatives passed legislation on Saturday to transfer frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine and ban TikTok unless it severs ties to its Chinese parent company.House lawmakers passed the bill, dubbed the 21st Century Peace through Strength Act, in a vote of 360 in favor and 58 opposed.
The legislation allows the executive branch to transfer frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine, sanctions Iran, disrupts the ability of Palestinian organization Hamas to fund terrorism and sanctions entities involved in international fentanyl trafficking.Moreover, the bill prevents app stores or web hosting services in the United States from featuring TikTok unless it severs ties to Chinese parent company ByteDance.
so in short:
*theft of foreign assets
*forcing a company to illegaly change their parent company
*sanction nation that responded to an agression
*(dont know about that hamas part, as it is made by israel)
*sanction entities involved in fenthanyl: recently us made statements that ccp is directly
involved, so theres that.
*that last point would be fine by me if it wasnt for that "unless you switch to us" part.
so in short: the us proved once again that it is nothing more then a mafia state.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 20 2024 17:42 utc | 41
What are the circumstances? …
Posted by: Constantine | Apr 20 2024 17:22 utc | 39
I don’t know and the subject is depressing so I won’t be going out of my way to determine the particulars. The info I gave above is where I’d start if I did want to find out what happened.
Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 20 2024 17:51 utc | 42
Justpassinby @ 41
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - The US House of Representatives passed legislation on Saturday to transfer frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine and ban TikTok unless it severs ties to its Chinese parent company.
South Africa would be a perfect place to find a partner and register the Tiktok parent company there. Maybe someone at TikTok reads MoA.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 18:10 utc | 43
Today I light a candle to Russell in a cathedral that was started in 1035, before the Great Schism, that way God can't miss it. A prayer for Russell and for victory of good over evil.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 18:15 utc | 44
@LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:31 utc | 1
American Z-blogger Russell Bentley (call sign Texas), who was kidnapped in the "DPR" and had been fighting in the ranks of pro-Russian militants since 2014, was raped and then killed by his fellow soldiers.
Interesting how the peasants treat the outsiders who support them.
Posted by: gT | Apr 20 2024 18:22 utc | 45
ZH has a sub-title about the $95 billion package that just passed
Democrats and some Republicans waved Ukrainian flags during the vote...
America has the best government money can buy.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 20 2024 18:29 utc | 46
https://www.china-arms.com/2024/04/china-detect-us-f22-stealth-jets-60000-times-better/
I'm skeptical but if true, this could change things radically - Ukraine, Taiwan and Israel.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 20 2024 18:30 utc | 47
Posted by: gT | Apr 20 2024 18:22 utc | 45
who are the peasants?
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 20 2024 18:36 utc | 48
re: Justpassinby, #41
None of that legislation has any positive and constructive effect on the US itself. This looks like chaff being thrown in the wind by a losing bully. The theft of Russian assets will just pthe for more de-dolarization; sanctions as usual just create misery in fhd popukation and create negative goodwill; and censorship is ratcheted up by banning Tik-tok.
On the subject of the other other bill giving 10's of billions to Ukraine, Legitimity and Rezident point out in their last postings that Zelinsky had to give many concessions to Washington (as in colonialism): the blood of 200,000+ young and mostly unmotivated Ukrainians in a suicidal infantry attack this Fall, agricultural rights given to US companies, and the State Department reorganizes the higher mangement of Ukraine by installing people of its own choice.
Posted by: Richard L | Apr 20 2024 18:36 utc | 49
@47 eightman
Re: detecting stealth
Ever since Serbia shot down b117 since discontinued, with s125 missles stealth had been a joke.
The future is with semi stealth drones and missles. Airplanes themselves will stay back and run the show.
For details we can see the su57 operating behind lines. The f22 which should be doing it for the states is dying.
The f35 only has one engine it can't compete with a dual engined fighter which can carry more.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2024 18:38 utc | 50
To any reasonable and objective observer, the Bentley was "raped and killed" by fellow militia narrative stinks to high hell!
First give away is, not just "killed", but also "raped".
This is the tell that it is a psyop. It sounds too familiar to the propaganda recently out of occupied Palestine. Also, reminds of some of the narrative accompanying the Yugoslav wars.
The narrative peddlers keep hammering the "rape" narrative for the primal reflex it conjures. The constantly traumatized public are further traumatized in ways they cannot rationalize, they can only react when "rape" is invoked. Killing as we have come to learn, can always be rationalized, but rape, NEVER!
By throwing in "rape", the psyop dials up the narrative to 'full-retard', but for those who pay attention, it also exposes it, for what it is.
Time to call out the fellow bar shleps who are regurgitating this message.
Posted by: Spinworthy | Apr 20 2024 18:50 utc | 51
The legislation allows the executive branch to transfer frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine
Given the spectacular blowback of the current sanctions effort against Russia, I can't wait to see where this one goes. Perhaps future historians will point to this moment as the straw that broke the dollar's back.
When a sanctions butterfly in Washington flaps its wings...
An F-35 loaded with a nuclear bomb was sent east over Jordan....
The mission: cause a high-altitude detonation over Iran that would provoke a surge in the high-capacity power lines, crippling Iran's electric grid, as well as disabling all electronic devices.
An EMP attack.
However... As the Israeli F-35 was leaving Jordanian airspace it was shot down by the Russian Air Force.
Thanks for the above LightYearsFromHome, after reading the thoroughly depressing NEXTA exploitation of Russell Bentley's death, I needed some light relief and Pepe Escobar channelling Ian Fleming provided it.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Apr 20 2024 18:53 utc | 52
Given the spectacular blowback of the current sanctions effort against Russia, I can't wait to see where this one goes. Perhaps future historians will point to this moment as the straw that broke the dollar's back.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Apr 20 2024 18:53 utc | 52
why would that have any effect?
Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2024 18:57 utc | 53
https://www.china-arms.com/2024/04/china-detect-us-f22-stealth-jets-60000-times-better/
I'm skeptical but if true, this could change things radically - Ukraine, Taiwan and Israel.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 20 2024 18:30 utc | 47
"... that can amplify the F-22’s radar reflection signal by 60,000 times. In other words, the equivalent RCS area exceeds 6 square meters. In terms of detection distance, this means the F-22 fighter can be detected at distances greater than 200 kilometers!"
"Furthermore, the paper indicates that this new detection method can cover an area of approximately 63,000 square kilometers."
Either it only detects 141km radius (do the math) or it's a fraction of the full circle and assuming it's half then it could detect at 280 km
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2024 18:59 utc | 54
Given the spectacular blowback of the current sanctions effort against Russia, I can't wait to see where this one goes. Perhaps future historians will point to this moment as the straw that broke the dollar's back.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Apr 20 2024 18:53 utc | 52
why would that have any effect?
Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2024 18:57 utc | 53
I imagine that was exactly the same response by the Western political elites when someone asked if the sanctions against Russia would have any impact upon Western economics.
Blowback and the law of unintended consequences have been the hallmark of the sanctions regime against Russia. I can't see this outright theft being any different.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Apr 20 2024 19:14 utc | 55
Our source reports that Zelensky is pleased that the United States is providing credit/assistance to Ukraine. It's almost a holiday on Bankova.As the source explains, in the next two months, we will learn what Zelensky promised Western lobby groups for the right to continue the war for another year.
So far there is information that:
- recruit additional manpower and launch an infantry offensive before the start of the US elections
- new portfolios for Western clientele
- permission to Western corporations to grow grass in Ukraine (donate land in addition)
- privatization of residual gas, energy and fuel enterprises under TNCs
- carrying out the necessary tasks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine/GUR/SBU from Western TNCs (special attacks on Russian oil refineries, etc.).
- promoting the LGBT case in schools and the Armed Forces of UkraineWe'll see the rest soon.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17762
Our source in the OP said that Andrei Ermak agreed with the State Department to reboot the Government, all key positions will go to the American clientele. Bankova was forced to agree to such a scenario so that the United States would provide funding.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22517
Posted by: Down South | Apr 20 2024 19:17 utc | 56
#47 #54
This could be photonic radar which should allow 3D imaging of objects. RUS has been working on it too it should be on new 6th generation fighter jet (some people claiming that it will be used on upgraded version of Su-57, God knows when). China has been developing photonic computer chips as well. There are few articles available on internet on photonic radar technology. Big question is what value added photonic radar with 150km reach has on modern battle field for country with strong long-range AD systems like RUS.
Posted by: J_Schneider | Apr 20 2024 19:22 utc | 57
The new bill on mobilization has not yet entered into legal force, and the TCC police officers have already felt their impunity and began to do whatever they please 🙈So, in the Dnepropetrovsk region, they decided to kidnap a man right near his own house, and at the same time grabbed his bag of groceries so that there would not be even a hint of his appearance there. However, they didn't think about the CCTV camera. What happened next to the man is unknown. And there are a lot of such cases in the country, because the majority of citizens do not want to fight voluntarily.
This happens for a number of reasons, one of which is disability during combat. There are over 3 million disabled people in the country. More than 30 thousand soldiers become disabled every month. Returning to normal life, it is difficult for them to come to their senses psychologically, since the situation puts moral pressure on the person. After all, the state does not treat its fighters for free, does not provide rehabilitation programs, nor does it provide promised payments.
Ukrainians can only ask for help on their own from family and friends, or rely on themselves. More often: a person begins to use alcohol/drugs, which leads to very disastrous consequences. Thus, Ukraine is turning into a country of disabled people, for whom there is no one to take care😱
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22519
Military commissars-policemen began to open fire on the Ukrainians, and in official information, as always, the heroes from the TCC defended themselves from a group of citizens.In the Chernivtsi region, a TCC employee opened fire to fight off an attack by a group of civilians, the Chernivtsi Regional TsK says.
“Today, near the village of Chernoguzy, during the implementation of warning measures, a group of civilians attacked a soldier of the Vizhnytsia district TCC and joint venture. The vehicle of the representative of the TCC and joint venture was blocked, and force and threats were used against him,” the message says.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22525
A video of the inappropriate behavior of a military commissar, who threatened people with a pistol, appeared.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/22526
Posted by: Down South | Apr 20 2024 19:23 utc | 58
Rape accusations work!
The narrative peddlers keep hammering the "rape" narrative for the primal reflex it conjures.Posted by: Spinworthy | Apr 20 2024 18:50 utc | 51
In September 2012 US Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens was killed in an Islamist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi. On Twitter I saw photos of his half-naked body being dragged from some burnt-out building. I instantly saw an opportunity for psychological warfare. I retweeted the photos and asked an innocent-sounding question:
"Was Ambassador Stevens raped before he was killed?"
I had no reason to believe that Ambassador Stevens raped. My tweet was motivated only by the American rape of Libya.
One hour later I noticed that the rape story was all over Twitter! Later, the "rape" formed the core part of the Benghazi narrative among patriotic Americans. This "Benghazi betrayal" narrative was central in forming the hatred American conservatives felt toward Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Ultimately, it most likely lead to her defeat in the US presidential elections of 2016 and Donald Trump's narrow victory.
Call it Gaddafi's revenge.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2024 19:25 utc | 59
The New York Times, citing a senior US source:“Battles like in “Terminator” are coming.
Over the past two months, Russian troops have disabled five of the 31 American Abrams tanks handed over to the Ukrainian army. Drones have become the most important means of destroying armored vehicles .
The publication says that this is a small part of the total number of tanks that were lost by the Ukrainian army during the entire war. Most of the losses relate to Soviet-era and Ukrainian-made vehicles. Only about 140 disabled tanks were transferred by NATO countries, for example 30 German Leopards.
The NYT notes that the way relatively cheap drones destroy tanks is changing the understanding of modern conflict and threatening the role of armored vehicles in war. Depending on the size and complexity, UAVs can cost about $500, which cannot be compared with the price of one Abrams tank - $10 million. Military analyst, instructor, Austrian Colonel Markus Reisner pointed out that after a tank is hit with more conventional types of weapons, it is sent to finish it off with a drone. so as not to allow it to be removed from the battlefield for repairs.
Analysts believe that the development of drones will lead to battles being conducted by remotely controlled unmanned armored vehicles. It will be directed by operators located in bunkers underground to ensure line of sight and a stable signal.
Colonel Reisner, speaking about the prospects for combat between UAVs and unmanned ground vehicles, said: “They will fight each other, like in The Terminator.”
⭐️ America is just beginning to understand what Russia understood a year ago and began to develop the appropriate technologies.
https://t.me/two_majors/22649
Posted by: Down South | Apr 20 2024 19:26 utc | 60
"...In fact, the majority of the British oligarchs who masterminded the effort to establish an Anglo-American empire - at that early stage centered in Britain - were WASPs...." Constantine 17:11 utc@34
This sort of thing cannot be said too often- the imperialist impulse was felt by all sorts of rulers. The fanatically Catholic Spanish showed themselves to be ruthless imperialists. The Puritan Pilgrim Fathers were, in the end, every bit as bad. Jews in Palestine are no better. Hindus in India, Buddhists in Sri Lanka, Muslims in east Timor and Java.... It is not about religion but competition for wealth and power and no ethnicity or faith has been immune to it.
As you say it is a propaganda form consistent with Hasbara to seek out, if necessary invent, links between jews and colonialism. For the most part such links are few and unconvincing, during most of the modern imperialist era Jews have been marginalised politically and socially- unless the argument is that they went into colonialism because they were banned by golf clubs- they were the last part of Europe's leaders to be involved in imperial enterprises.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 20 2024 19:27 utc | 61
Petri Krohn @ 59
"Was Ambassador Stevens raped before he was killed?"
Well, at least it's less pulp fiction tawdry than saying he was raped after he was killed. Guess they are saving that stuff for the upcoming special collector's edition.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 19:41 utc | 62
re: 49. Sorry for the typos. I pressed 'post' by accident while reviewing the text.
Posted by: Richard L | Apr 20 2024 19:44 utc | 63
Guys, looking at Biden, the US, Ukraine and much more, I figured out what the future will be:
A combination of Idiocracy and Atlas Shrugged. Some of this fits like a glove. America was always a dream, as aspiration rather than reality - but that was OK. We needed a great dream. I wonder what happens when a dream has died?
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 20 2024 19:59 utc | 64
so Z says the 60.8 b will"save thousands of lives"... duuurrrr...
Posted by: Jo | Apr 20 2024 20:08 utc | 66
Good, and important both quote and comment from the TG channel. If anyone is wondering where we are headed, first they turned the "inverted totalitarianism" of the cold war years right side up, then they started making it slowly overt (Patriot Act era to now) then they'll institute full on in your face fascist dictatorship with the book burnings, social media banishment, beatings, exile, murders, and all the rest, which is in its earliest phase now, you can see it:
"History has to be rewritten. It has always been uncomfortable for Germany and other Western countries because it means recognising the important role of the Soviet Union and the Soviet army in liberating Germany from fascism".German politician Stefan Natke joins the call to give his simple explanation of why Europeans are tearing down monuments and not inviting the Russian Federation to events commemorating the Second World War. It's simple: without the main participant in the events, history is much easier to rewrite. No one is stopping it....
This is also important and goes well with the above, it's worse than the title makes it out to be. Jimmy Dore takes no prisoners, he worries me:
NPR’s New CEO Is The Ultimate Woke Mental Case
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 20:10 utc | 67
@Eighthman, #47:
If you think F-22 has been what prevented China from taking action about Taiwan, you obviously have drunk too much Kool-Aid. I don't know about Ukraine or Israel but my read of China and Russia's attitude towards F-22 (and F-35 too, btw) are they are jokes meant mainly by MIC to squeeze money out of suckers.
China has taken no action regarding Taiwan because they haven't decided what to do about the 23 million souls living there. Surely they don't want to see a Gaza play on 10 time the scale. Besides, what are Taiwan and/or the Empire doing regarding the Taiwan situation that China cannot live with, besides comical propaganda values and theater? Whatever they are doing are only good for their respective domestic gains in terms of gaining votes and justifying corruption money. Just wait and see if the Empire mobilize to install short/mid-range missiles across the Strait, then you sell all your stock holdings because WW3 is coming.
Oh, the no-no on missile installation applies to Philippine/SCS also.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 20 2024 20:12 utc | 68
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:31 utc | 1
Why did you cut out the last sentence of that TG post?
It reads:
Posted by XYZ, edit from Angelo, for those that don’t know, Nexta is a disgusting channel and we posted for your information to see how horrible these people are, making disgusting claims.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2024 20:17 utc | 69
Dima's latest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhXs6J7myQ
No significant progress anywhere. Bunch of speculation on what will happen in the future...red arrows, RFA taking territory. But he's been doing that for days and it's been static for days. And he doesn't go back and revisit past speculation (to say if it proved wrong, or even right).
In Nova, his title says it has fallen, but the video is very different from the clickbait title (says R-Telegramer said small gain within village...and his map actually has NO red coverage of Nova.)
In Berdichi, "still difficult" (i.e. RFA still hasn't taken it) and "will fall in two days" (he has been saying that for a week now...and as above, with no process for revisiting his speculations and commenting on them after they don't prove out.)
Pretty static.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 20:25 utc | 70
Posted by: Down South | Apr 20 2024 19:26 utc | 60
Ukraine started the war, according to Mark Sleboda's sources with 2000 main battle tanks, T-72, T-64 and T-55.
Maybe a thousand of those were in working order, hundreds were sent to Poland and Czech for restoration.
They also got, perhaps 400 more T-72 and other T-types which were in working order. You could say Ukraine could have over duration had 2500 T-type tanks, a several hundred Leopards (mostly during counter-offensive but also after) and the 40 or whatever Abrams tanks.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 20:31 utc | 71
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 20:25 utc | 70
And now an anonymous agent provocateur.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2024 20:34 utc | 72
Naive @ 69
Why did you cut out the last sentence of that TG post?
I don't think that was there, maybe I missed it but I doubt it. Masno added it after afterwords?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 20:37 utc | 73
The ukronazis and their (agents provocateurs) supports are really stupid:
Why Russia isn't just taking one village after the other instead of being in a lot of them and not getting forward:
I talked with some Russians about that - I got a simple answer:
Why closing open wounds where the enemy is bleeding out by trying to close them?
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We are still in more or less a muddy season - so the strategy is to get a foothold in a lot of settlements and let the other side bring in reserves.
It works perfectly - because we are still in the aggressive attrition phase.
Moving forward makes only sense when you see that the enemy stops bringing in reserves. THEN you move to force them to do so.
Source:
https://t.me/s/Novichok_Rossiya_2
Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2024 20:38 utc | 74
Spinworthy @51: "By throwing in "rape", the psyop dials up the narrative to 'full-retard', but for those who pay attention, it also exposes it, for what it is."
Precisely. The "rape" portion of the narrative, as well as the report that Bentley was beheaded, tells us all we need to know about who the perpetrators were.
Did you find the narrative shocking? Because that was the point.
Reread Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine" to reacquaint yourself why the CIA and their death squad goons are so enamored with the most horrible and gruesome atrocities possible. Shoving bamboo splinters in one ear until they emerge from the other, burning prisoners in cages, bayoneting presidents' rectums, butchering captives alive and leaving their dismembered corpses in public places for maximum impact on the population, these are but a few of the CIA's favorite things. These are CIA calling cards.
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 20 2024 20:46 utc | 75
Spinworthy @51: "By throwing in "rape", the psyop dials up the narrative to 'full-retard', but for those who pay attention, it also exposes it, for what it is."
Precisely. The "rape" portion of the narrative, as well as the report that Bentley was beheaded, tells us all we need to know about who the perpetrators were.
Did you find the narrative shocking? Because that was the point.
Reread Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine" to reacquaint yourself why the CIA and their death squad goons are so enamored with the most horrible and gruesome atrocities possible. Shoving bamboo splinters in one ear until they emerge from the other, burning prisoners in cages, bayoneting presidents' rectums, butchering captives alive and leaving their dismembered corpses in public places for maximum impact on the population, these are but a few of the CIA's favorite things. These are CIA calling cards.
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 20 2024 20:48 utc | 76
Naive 74:
RFA really messed up in Avdiivka. Took the city. Should have failed to take it, so they could do attrition.
At least we can celebrate the RFA retreats from Kiev, Kharkive, and Kherson. 5D chess to the rescue!
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 20:50 utc | 77
Oriental Voice @ 68
China has taken no action regarding Taiwan because they haven't decided what to do about the 23 million souls living there.
Actually they did decide, the half century long plan was to develop, modernize and open mainland up to the point where there would be no practical difference between mainland and Taiwan. China never had any intention to "conquer" their own people, the integration was to be seamless, inevitable and natural. What they didn't foresee was retrograde actions on the part of nationalists and USA to make Taiwan poorer, more closed off, and dictatorial than mainland.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 20:53 utc | 78
Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2024 20:38 utc | 74
I remember last year one example from the village of Sporne.
They said AFU troops kept coming, after one group was bombed, the next group came in and shared the same trench with the first group. And so on layers piled on each other. Taking Sporne took months and months.
During the battle of Izyum the RU troops defending the flanks they saw periodically, over every few hours a new group appearing in the same exact forest edge spot. The AFU commanders told the groups of mobilized the route they have to go, and where they have to go, and no one knows what happened to the last group. Obviously drugs are also heavily involved in these battles.
Same in the initial battle in Kherson. AFU crossed the small river and established a foothold. It turned out to be an artillery pocket, to which they sent more and more people for several weeks achieving nothing.
Obviously, such a strategy could potentially eventually work when Russia was still in the tactical battalion system and had to use the mobile-fire brigade defense. But not anymore.
We can say drones didn't play such a dominant role in 2022 and first half of 2023. Now they are crucial.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 20:58 utc | 79
It's like the mirror image of the "meat wave" cope of the NAFOs, to hear the "muh attrition" sayings here. And...meanwhile neither side reveals their own losses...and we lack good outside assessments (OSINT sucks)...and we can't trust the RFA reporting on UFA losses--they have bias AND don't really know it clearly AND battle damage assessment is noteworthy for inflation, over the entire history of warfare.
Of course, YES, the exact same thing applies for the Ukrops claim on RFA losses. Which is why I go of territory. Not Russobot cope. Not Ukrop cope. Geolocated flag videos. And not the huddled inside a building or the running away from Krinky to the lines ones.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 21:06 utc | 80
Naive | Apr 20 2024 20:34 utc | 72
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 20:25 utc | 70And now an anonymous agent provocateur.
Agent Provocateur ! Love their lingerie !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 20 2024 21:11 utc | 81
Right on Schedule!
Ukraine Rada passes Mobilization Bill.
US House passes $61 billion for Ukraine.
Posted by: Blind Bridge Troll | Apr 20 2024 21:16 utc | 82
@Constantine 34
" In fact, the majority of the British oligarchs who masterminded the effort to establish an Anglo-American empire - at that early stage centered in Britain - were WASPs. But no, once again we are informed by a luminary "
1999.
how england has used jews for the benefit of english race only and for deliberately creating disruption in Europe.
England had threatened israel in 1948 during israeli war of independence that england would use atom bomb against israel unless israel stop drowning royal air force planes and pilots who were helping Jordan against israel.
the same england was in uproar in july 1981 when Israel;l attacked iraq's nuclear reactor-just check out their papers of the time
the same England was leading charge against Israel in june 82 when Israel attacked Palestinian terrorists inside lebanon-that was at t time when england was in illegal occupation for malvinas island.
that is short glimpse of how much england and anglosaxon race care about jews and israel.
look at editorials of the times, the newsweek during those crucial period of june 82 and see how they(the TImes, the guardian, BBC, ITV) were suggesting that israel or atleast tel aviv should be bombed.-just check the british papers and bbc clips from april 82 to august 82.Also check those british bast ds journalism list in the month of summer 1981 when iraqi nuclear plant was bombed by the Israelis and the british were the first-along with iraq -to protest against the israeli action.
It is very interesting that the same type of english people(who are anti-communists, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-catolics) started the same sort of propaganda(like used against russians and communists) against The Germans after 1989 the Frenchs and Europeans in general. First England did not want germany reunited(though during cold war it suggested that only Russians are against it). soon after German reunification and even before disintegration of Soviet union ,England changed the lie-tactics(through media and government) against Europe. There is one more thing. nato was supposed to counter warsaw pact, with the latter gone there was no discussion as to nato should be wound uop or not. Europe does not need nato. Europe can have and should have her own defence system as is the Germo-Franco_Italian_Spanish collaboration. that European defence pact must be strengthened rather than germany supporting nato. Actually england needs nato to prop up its nasty influence in military matters. With the help of usa and nato has england been able to prop up her influence. In fact england is anti-Europe and through nato it wants to keep a tab on european affairs and not let Europe get strong on her own. As england can not do this own her own it has let America involved in it(during empire days england hardly shared power with America but it needs America now). Germany or Europe does not need nato. In fact nato is the greatest enemy(through england)of germany and europe. How can england be so much anti-Germany,working dso much against German interests and be a major partner in common defence pact?It is a ludicrous situation. England manipulates financial market(in last 8 years through recession and what not london market has risen 3 fold while far Eastern markets-who are the main producers of consumer goods-has fallen drastically.). That is why it pumped up the value of pound before joing european systems- ofcourse it was unsustainable but for devaluation of pounds the Germans and some jews(as said by bbc) were blamed. As england does not want German or any other European country to get economically strong and be financially independent of london market, it opposed Single currency vehemently.Even a so called left-paper like Guardian was suggesting that if Schroeder(of german spd party) were the chancellor than he would give more say(than others in europe) to England-so it would have been good. In other word they want special treatment for themselves. Why? When they talk of sovereignty is england not the main country pushing, threatening and cajoling the third world to accept World bank and IMF(created by america for englands interest) so called structural reform regardless of people's wishes. If other countries's destiny can be controlled by bureaucrats in IMF. then why not England's by European's bureaucrats? England is the most bureaucratic and centralised country in europe with all the regional making machinery smashed by the government with the help of bbc and all other propaganda machinery. And that England talks of local development and bureaucracy of European commission.Single european currency is a must for Europe not only for european economic advantage and stability but also because it will smash england's power of financial market manipulation. In Fact the rest of Europe should actively discourage england to join Euro, because then englnd@s financial power will be smashed and it will be good news for Europe and the rest of the world. Not only England want to eat rotten, viral infected meat but also wants to force feed the the rotten thing to the Europeans. When germany resists this nasty move on part of england to take rotten meat ,then germany-already a villain in their eyes -becomes a super villain. As soon as the news leaked out of viral infected meats, the first reaction of bbc was not as to why it happened but ''Can Europe ban the export legally?-has it got the right?''. there was never a hue and cry about cruel treatment of cows who were forced fed on infected animal meats(cows are vegetarian). This sort of so called commercial farming is the thing which has been pushed down the through of rest of world through GAT. which was made to suit anglo saxons' interest.France was right to oppose gat in this form. If the similar thing happened in any other country in the world then this the same british media including bbc would hape said a cruel, primitive practice for rotten meat with no regard for peoples health or animals@ welfare. In fact for showing so much cruelty to animals in this case it is not the animals which should be killed but the peoples(british farmers and their media propagandists). There was and is always a support for such disgusting affairs by the british peoples and it shows what sort of people they are. we will british meat even if it is rotten. in fact there was hardly a influx of foreign meats following disclosure. This phenomenon of using rotten british product is not confined to beef-it extends to everything . in fact protectionism at home and forced infiltration abroad is the name of game in england. And this is the country talking about liberalization. That is why british products,though rotten in quality are high in price. All this because of underlying protectionism. That is also why you will not only not get fresh ,healthy products but also you do not find variety in british life. In the name of traditional(to protect the internal market) britain sells to own people and a few foreign stooges, the same rotten cheese, the same low quality high priced car and same rotten but high price arms(Saudis and others are fed with it). Actually this clone like cancerous feature is very much english way of life. the english live in ame only 4 or 5 varieties of house, their furniture is the same 4 to five varieties their clothes are they same rotten unsmart types and their food is the sme rotten type with rotten ingredients. Then why do the English live? for extracting money for money sake. this is feature of parasitic and cancerous race. the same thing they have exported to where they went. that is why all anglo saxons countries show lack of variety.and it is the engl;ish who accused Russians of imposing their culture destroying variety in soviet union. As to talk of this supporting own rotten meat and drug industry(tobacco) for the sake of jobs, why can not the third world support her own industry for their jobs and prosperity. at least third world still produces better quality food and clothes and even car than the general british joe is used to. When agitation was going on in South Africa in '86 against apartheid, the bbc reported in support of apartheid that otherwise in case of sanctions against s.africa it would be british profits and jobs which would be lost.Such peoples who benefit by others misery should be made jobless. In fact capitalism and so called freedom for them means freedom to exploit other nations and give them misery. For themselves english never practice free market-it is for foreign suckers. England is a protected and market for themselves and their rotten products. For example, Honda(which rescued b.l.) and rovers are the same cars but rovers cost more because it is british car and because they sometimes put a thin veneer of wood in it. Bearing in mind the british homes have hardly got a furniture of solid good wood, the english are selling their cars not on engineering but on carpentry and tatty presentation. And as these shopkeepers never have class, they make a lot of noise about class too. in fact what british media says and what truth is 180 degree apart.For foreign goods(car, consumer items etc) the english would be very fussy and want to get at least price abut for british goods they would create all lies and excuses to pump up the price and sell. That ids why the advanced countries in Europe and far east are in recession and britain and other anglo-saxon countries (which except america is only primary producers of land-oil.timbers. etc-land stolen from others in last 250 years)are in boom. It is not even alive and let live. english like to wreck others ' prospect of prosperity or happiness. For example.england knew that it had no outside chance of staging soccer world cup.but it put forward proposal nevertheless at last minute at a time when Germany was well favourite for that. Why?-to wreck chances for GERmany to stage one.So Germany lost not only that glory but also a lot of money to immense satisfaction of english press and people. unemployment in Germany could have eased up if it had got the offer to stage world cup, but no. And it is this Germany who agreed to british request to delay monetary union for 2 years (When britain is not going to be part of it even) . Had that monetary union come about earlier, German chancellor would not have been facing this problem as nhe is now. But then england has always survived on folly of these suckers who do not know who thier real friend or enemy are.nato which is really an agent for english interest(and broadly anglosaxon interest) should have been rejected by Germany and also euro-fighter in place of truly european (excluding britain ofcourse)military alliance. but Germany lost that chance and new cold war(England has always done cold wars,it is too coward to enter in direct confontration without firsat weakening enemy with lies and propaganda machinery like BBC and others)has begun. For those who do not believe this let me give a here is an example. Soon after fall of Berlin war, the editor of Sunday times(who is renowned racist, anti communist and anti poor,pro capitalist and later came out to be anti Germans and Anti French as well) said on bbc that to protect nato and english interests Europe ,may be americans should get out of germany and than british garrison can stay there because americans would be resented as occupying foreign forces while britain can simply say that they are european as well and so stay. This from a man who is European hater and is one of leading propagandists against Germany (as he was against russia).So there you are-cat is out. The english are a foreign intrusive element in europe through nato. In fact england should not have been allowed in european community ,barring this england must not be allowed to join european single currency if one wants to insure stability and cohesive strength of Euro.It is very interesting that the same editor of sundays times who rave about like a mad dog against germans ,French, Europe in general and ofcourse against blacks and socialists was also a sort of adviser to lady diana. That lady diana@s most of the friends during her fame have been what can be described, for lack of better word, a representative of greedy '80s is significant. Diana was a representative of that greedy shameful period called 80s and her main friends were the same exploiter which made 80s'climate of greed and selfishness possible. Diana was mainly liked by lower class shopkeepers and plumbers class -in other word whose forefathers were lumpen proletariat only a generation or two. She was neither aristocratic in taste nor her friends were. but the same diana -a darling of greedy exploiters with no class_ is being pumped up by british people as some angel!
Posted by: Sam | Apr 20 2024 21:19 utc | 83
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2024 18:38 utc | 50
You are aware of the full story of the shoot-down, an event that would be nearly impossible to replicate in a conventional war scenario.
Posted by: Down South | Apr 20 2024 19:26 utc | 60
They might already be. As for the Russian solution to anti-armour drones it’s maturing into the typical Soviet approach, combining simple, physical, applications melded with areas of technological expertise. Hence the modernised T-80’s now come from the factory with pre-installed, jamming pods, anti-top-attack, corrugated armoured roofs, to protect the sensor arrays and sighting systems, with an APS system soon to be fitted, coupled with the latest reactive armour bricks covering the vulnerable top surfaces.
There is also a move toward passive defences, such as thermal shielding and other similar measures, to reduced the signature of the vehicles, similar to the developments in aviation, that occurred to counter the new-missile threats.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 20:25 utc | 70
Russian logistical limitations are partly responsible for the scope and limited tempo of the SMO.
Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2024 21:20 utc | 84
Milites | Apr 20 2024 21:20 utc | 83
Russian logistical limitations are partly responsible for the scope and limited tempo of the SMO.
And this, er, has what to do with new enhanced production of russian arrmor ?
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 20 2024 21:25 utc | 85
Posted by: Blind Bridge Troll | Apr 20 2024 21:16 utc | 81
The only reason Ukraine got $60 billion was the promise to mobilize 300k people and promise another offensive before the US election. They will, try at least. And the results are clear, you thought it couldn't get any more draconian? You would be wrong.
US also supposedly invested $300 million into Ukraine's border protection on the western border. Gee, wonder why.
They won't get too man new expensive big boy toys relative to the amount of new people conscripts. So the offensive will most likely, literally be 'meat assaults'.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 21:26 utc | 86
William Gruff @ 75
That was my whole point posting the lurid bs about Bentley, it puts in stark relief who the murderers were. At least they didn't blame it on ISIS, guess they are getting better as they go. Quite the clever psyops actually they wound up using Russell's righteousness to their benefit. MSM in the west gets to run stories for their zombie audience how a naive foolish pro Russian westerner went to Russia to fight and help and the barbarians showed their gratitude by raping and killing him.
I feel bad that his wife and friends fell for the “tankers” crap, but maintaining hope in the face of disaster does strange things to people. One of the down sides of social media is that normal human failings get blown up and the propagandists know how to exploit it.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 21:26 utc | 87
^
MSM in the west gets to run stories for their zombie audience how a naive foolish pro Russian westerner went to Russia to fight and help and the barbarians showed their gratitude by raping and killing him.
Oh, it just hit me, it's the christian missionary going into the jungle and the savages boil and eat him. They are clever.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 21:31 utc | 89
LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 21:31 utc | 88
MSM in the west gets to run stories for their zombie audience how a naive foolish pro Russian westerner went to Russia to fight and help and the barbarians showed their gratitude by raping and killing him.Oh, it just hit me, it's the christian missionary going into the jungle and the savages boil and eat him. They are clever.
With mint sauce I hope ?
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 20 2024 21:44 utc | 90
. It is not about religion but competition for wealth and power and no ethnicity or faith has been immune to it.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 20 2024 19:27 utc | 61
You have one that has learnt that they get richer with what they have and even lose interest in the rest of the world.
The Chinese learnt long, long ago . Store rice and seek no hegemony…
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2024 21:50 utc | 91
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 21:06 utc | 79
Russian BDA assessment is incredibly conservative, with strict criteria for establishing if personnel or equipment was damaged or destroyed. Exaggerating losses would throw out their correlation of forces model, an easy task given some weapons in their arsenal literally obliterate their target. Good luck gaining an accurate count after a TOS-A strike, or a FAB 1000, even if you walked the site of impact. Even a position hit by 30mm cannon shells resembles an abattoir, with only estimations based on typical manning levels, or unit intervals possible.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2024 20:38 utc | 74
This. Attrition strategies are not static, they require active, regular provocation, sucks to be the instigator but soldiers have risked their lives for far less effective strategies.
Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2024 21:53 utc | 92
They won't get too man new expensive big boy toys relative to the amount of new people conscripts. So the offensive will most likely, literally be 'meat assaults'.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 21:26 utc | 85
Most is for the us army to replenish what they already sent.
Meat is cheap and can delay to march 2025 total defeat.
The new president can deal with the surrender
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2024 21:53 utc | 93
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2024 20:58 utc | 78
Thanks!!!
Always I called the so-called by western corrupt medias "counter-offensives", more rightly as "meat-grinders".
And no use to reply to a stupid anonymous troll.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2024 21:54 utc | 94
So the Trump GOP members of Congress voted in favor of the Ukraine aid. Not all, but the important ones including Johnson. Needless to say every single member of the finance-fascist Democrat party did too. Another $61Bn in debt money to the corrupt, defeated Ukrainians and corrupt, easily defeat-able on the battlefield US MIC.
Does Russia crank it up a few notches in the next few weeks to finally end this or continue with the slow, progressive grind?
What does the Russian military brass and political leadership do differently now, if anything?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2024 22:28 utc | 95
This day in late capitalism, US Congress emits the Peace Through Strength Act, flexing our exceptional fiscal muscularity to seize Russian assets, transferring the proceeds to Ukraine.
While the bill passed with bipartisan support, it was strongly condemned by fiscal conservatives and anti-war Republicans. US Senator Rand Paul warned earlier this year that “confiscating Russia’s sovereign assets is an act of economic war” that would undermine global confidence in the US.
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) issued a similar warning on Friday, while the Kremlin has declared that any actions taken against its assets would amount to flagrant “theft.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/596318-congress-assets-russia-ukraine/
Yet another escalation, from a whole capitol full of demented joes, both sides of the aisle. Nobody told any of these fools about likely reprisals.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2024 22:30 utc | 96
I do wonder about Ukrainian resistance. The problem is that they often say they aren't led by superior officers - who are far away from the front lines. If true, why advance or do anything? Or why not execute any officer who shows up in person? Or why not surrender? Or just run away?
Are they fanatics? Or what is the explanation? The next step is, can they come up with anything like 300K soldiers? And do they keep willingly feeding the meat grinder?
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 20 2024 22:34 utc | 97
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 20 2024 21:25 utc | 84
Nothing, it was in response to a poster commenting on there being little progress, these last few days. If you think Russian armour is limited you might be surprised at how much they have, tanks are replaceable, trained crews less so.
Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2024 22:36 utc | 98
Naives and Millites. You haven't audited BDA. You are just making an assertion. The exact same assertion that could be made from the Ukrop side. Do you trust THEIR BDA?
And you are ignoring the history of inflated BDA assessments...this is the case EVEN WHEN the assessments are NOT posted publicly. It occurs because air crews and soldiers and ships all have a human tendency to claim "kills" when they actually only have partial information...it makes them look better and is just human behavior. Like the cope we get from BOTH the NAFOs AND the Moonies.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2024 22:46 utc | 99
More reports of nato, mostly French troops are showing up.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2024 15:33 utc | 24
Did you source or cite these reports? They are most likely rumors. If they do show up, which I think would be very, very unlikely, they would not be under NATO auspices, but French. The French would be on their own. They cannot "trigger" Article V.
In fact, French troops would be considered mercenaries, unless France openly makes itself a party to the conflict. And if France could not openly challenge the coup leaders in Niger, with French troops already stationed there, they are not going to challenge Russia.
I'll repeat this again: No NATO member will make an open move on Russia without explicit American backing. The US isn't going to back any ground troops in Ukraine until well after the 2025 inauguration, if ever. End of story.
Posted by: James M. | Apr 20 2024 22:51 utc | 100
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What this does is sow division but more importantly it undoes the years of good Bentley did waking up people in the west to the reality of the last decade in Ukraine, of resurgent Nazism, of CIA attacks on Christianity, of western terrorism against civilians. The message is that Bentley was a foolish American who put his faith and trust in the wrong people. As I noted yesterday, whose MO is that?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 20 2024 13:31 utc | 1