Ukraine Open Thread 2024-104
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Posted by b on April 9, 2024 at 14:49 UTC | Permalink
next page »We have long been aware that there is a turnaround in thinking/worldview/patriotism in Ukrainian society. This happened due to the wrong actions of Zelensky and his government, which kills Ukrainians’ love for their country.If in 2022 even pro-Russian Ukrainians supported Zelensky’s power, considering Russia an enemy, then 2 years later there was a radical reversal. Now for the South-East of Ukraine, everything is ALMOST back to normal, Zelensky and the Ukrainian government are becoming the enemy, and the Russian Federation is no longer an “enemy”, but not yet a “friend-liberator” for everyone. But as we see, the trend is moving precisely in this direction.
When our source first told us about this, we were skeptical, but his prediction is now completely coming true.The Ukrainian Armed Forces military themselves report that there have been more leaks of Ukrainian Armed Forces positions, both in front-line cities and in the rear (Odessa, Dnepr, Nikolaev, etc.). The recent precision flights to Odessa, where the leadership of the TRO and the Ministry of Internal Affairs were meeting, are due precisely to the fact that in society and even within the system there are more people who changed their opinion on what was happening and began to support Russia.
It is not the people who are to blame for this, but the Zee government, which has wasted all the credit of trust and discredited the idea.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17635
Posted by: Down South | Apr 9 2024 15:04 utc | 2
The Biden crime family, Burisma links through Kolomoyskyi to Zelensky... one big happy family.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 15:07 utc | 3
@Down South | Apr 9 2024 15:01 utc | 1
Thank you I just saw that and intended to post it as well. Well, as we say in Norway "tampen brenner" which is hard to translate but it means you are getting close to the fire.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 9 2024 15:07 utc | 4
Notice that the CIA and MI6 are now targeting Victor Orban?
All part of the WEC plan to destroy any conservative nationalist.
We have seen so far this action take place in Brazil, the US, and Poland, and they are coming for Orban.
Yet another CIA and MI6 financed color revolution underway.
Orban needs to act fast arrest all the coup plotters and quickly too.........otherwise a new Maidan Square show will be underway soon.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 9 2024 15:31 utc | 5
Burisma Holdings.....where have I heard that name before, hmm, I'd hazard a guess, nah, lay money, taking all odds, that Burisma Holdings is the key to why The Biden Crime Syndicate went all in on 404.
My query, just how much graft was shifted out of the Ukraine every year, for years.
Still have Obummer's recent trip to London in the back of my mind. Must have been important, always had him pegged as MI6 plant.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 9 2024 15:32 utc | 6
sean the leprechaun | Apr 9 2024 15:32 utc | 6
The Trump dossier, commissioned by DNC, produced by MI6/GCHQ. That visit by Obama - they're cooking something up.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 15:39 utc | 7
This is how desperate the USA is to recruit fighters for Ukraine and if its successful other anti-Russian nations might follow suit.
"American PMCs have begun recruiting members of Mexican and Colombian drug cartels serving sentences in the United States to participate in the conflict in Ukraine, the press bureau of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service reported.
The department noted that Washington is increasingly desperate to turn the tide in this theater of war by swelling the ranks of demoralized soldiers MAT "a multi-ethnic rabble with a penchant for armed violence".
"According to the information received by the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, for these purposes, American PMCs under the leadership of the Drug Enforcement Administration and the US FBI began to recruit representatives of Mexican and Colombian drug cartels serving time in American prisons to participate in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the deteriorating Kiev regime," the SVR stressed.
They added that the United States intends to send the first batch of hundreds of members of Latin American drug cartels to Ukraine this summer. If they agree, they are promised a full amnesty in the expectation that they will never return, the department noted.
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"If the pilot project to replenish the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Latin American criminals succeeds, then the program for recruiting live-breeders will be continued and even expanded at the expense of criminals from other countries in which a difficult criminal situation is noted," the press bureau said.
Nevertheless, as the SVR clarified, the recruitment of members of drug cartels is not without problems. They noted that without the "blessing" of the drug lords, none of their subordinates will cooperate with the American authorities. At the same time, the leaders of the gangs themselves want to "sell" their people at a higher price, jeopardizing the implementation of the US plan, the Foreign Intelligence Service concluded.
In mid-March, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported that during the NWO, 13,387 foreign mercenaries arrived in Ukraine to participate in battles on the side of the Kyiv regime. During this period, 5,962 militants were eliminated. The leader in the number of killed "soldiers of fortune" in the Ministry of Defense was called Poland "2,960 people came from there, 1,497 were killed. Next comes Georgia - 561 of the 1042 mercenaries were killed, and those who arrived from United States lost 491 out of 1,113 men. Also killed were 422 of the 1,005 Canadian fighters, 360 of the 822 British, and 349 of the 784 Romanians. From Germany 235 mercenaries arrived, 88 were liquidated."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 15:40 utc | 8
Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 15:40 utc | 8--
Makes perfect sense that the Outlaw US Empire would recruit outlaws from its own prisons and gives a very important inside look at the Empire's genuine "values."
Russia is not booming they are in tough as well. Spending billions on gear that lasts a week is not a good long term model. They had a large military monopoly for years but everyone makes their own now.
It ain’t easy going up against the majority of the money bags in the world.
Posted by: OohCanada | Apr 9 2024 13:46 utc | 303
You're basing this on the assumption that Russia is in this alone. They aren't. Do you remember Chairman XI saying that China and Russia are "more than allies, we stand back to back"? You have to be one hell of an optimist to believe he would make such a statement in a public speech unless he meant it.
Days before the start of the SMO the Russians sent a large delegation to China to finalize deals around trade and defence. Most weren't publicized but the one they did publicize was a deal with Huewei to "modernize and network" Russian manufacturing. Given the timing and place of this agreement it certainly wasn't about building a better toaster. Think about the networking part ... and the fact that the Russians are in China today building factories. Russia had a problem finding workers for their arms factories last year ... wanna guess how they solved that problem?
Now get out a map and look at where Russia and China are situated. The USA is a naval / air power. If Russia and China fight as allies none of their supply lines could be interdicted by sea or air while everything the west needs to fight Russia and China needs to cross oceans so submarines and missiles could easily interdict supply and keep the US carrier groups beyond their reach. Even the closest bridge across the Amur river are beyond the combat radius of US aircraft. It comes down to a bet on whether the B-2 can take out the Amur bridges and we know Russia and China have the proven ability to shoot down glide bombs and cruise missiles as well as having photonic radars. The B-2 is 25 years old btw ... a lot has happened technologically since 1997.
Manufacturing capacity, the ability to get those goods to the frontline and a large population that is willing to fight is what wins wars not high tech toys. Russia and China have everything they need out of reach to the west. Food, fuel, ammunition, manufacturing. It's self contained. OTOH NATO has to bring all their fuel by sea, weapons produced in the USA have to cross oceans to get to the battlefield.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 9 2024 15:54 utc | 10
@8
You want to see something funny? Watch what happens when those cartel thugs get a taste of the Russian military. It will be AYEEJIJIJIJI all the way to the Polish border.
Prague and Warsaw will get a whole new class of criminal to fulfill their diversity dreams.
Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 9 2024 15:54 utc | 11
Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 9 2024 15:54 utc | 11
I think there are likely many who would simply get to Ukraine, wait for a good time, frag their commanders/handlers, and make a run for the border.
From there, they're in the Schengen zone and can easily make their way back to Colombia, Mexico, or other Latin countries and resume their old ways and customs.
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 9 2024 16:09 utc | 12
An old one but a golden one with Lukashenko dressing down a Western journalist after a year of the SMO.
Never forget how consistently wrong the NAFO fluffers have been.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 16:09 utc | 13
The Trump dossier, commissioned by DNC, produced by MI6/GCHQ. That visit by Obama - they're cooking something up.
Posted by: Peter AU1
That isnt how it started. Disingenuous to leave out the real origins. But those criminals tend to benefit consistently from the shadows and misattribution.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Apr 9 2024 16:15 utc | 14
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 15:40 utc | 8
Wow. Thank you.
Posted by: juliania | Apr 9 2024 16:16 utc | 15
@Tobias Cole | Apr 9 2024 15:31 utc | 5
In February 2023, the USAID Administrator Samantha Power paid a visit to Hungary "I am here in Budapest to discuss USAID's new support for the Hungarian people". I guess the recent demonstration in Budapest is one of the results of this "new support".
The Administrator visited Slovakia after the election of President Pellegrini to give the same message. So the Hegemon is going after Fico as well.
Given the questions about where Peter Magyar, the organiser of the Budapest demonstration, obtained his funding, surely the Hungarian government should now act to curtail the activities of NGOs/political organisations funded by foreign governments?
Posted by: cirsium | Apr 9 2024 16:36 utc | 16
re: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 15:40 utc | 8
How is it possibly legal under US law for the DEA and FBI to recruit and providing military to members of Mexican and Columbian drug cartels? These are absolutely the LAST people who should be given military training.
Given the increasing odds for civil unrest in the US, I have to wonder when these new drug cartel brigades might be used internally to kill "domestic US terrorists"?
Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 9 2024 16:59 utc | 17
re: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 15:40 utc | 8
Do you have a link for the information from the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service? Ok if it is in Russian, thanks.
Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 9 2024 17:02 utc | 18
Just been listening to The Duran. They posit that if the $61B is unlocked then France (possibly the UK) will deploy troops in Ukraine. They have not joined potential dots. Is the money going to subsidise that [potential] deployment. Seriously, $61B (or even the small change from it) is a lot of loot for the cash strapped military budgets of UK and France.USD$ to Ukraine to Fr/UK?
Less 10% handling fee.
Posted by: marcjf | Apr 9 2024 17:05 utc | 19
sorry, my previous post should have read:
How is it possibly legal under US law for the DEA and FBI to assist PMCs to recruit and provide military training to members of Mexican and Columbian drug cartels who are serving time in US prisons?
Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 9 2024 17:05 utc | 20
@ Perimetr
Here you go
http://svr.gov.ru/smi/2024/04/ssha-otpravlyayut-narkodilerov-na-pomoshch-vsu.htm
Posted by: pesec | Apr 9 2024 17:09 utc | 21
Russian ISR hit the jackpot - precision missile destroys 32 D-20 (or equivalent) howitzers in a storage site.
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1777746577148231685
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2024 17:14 utc | 22
@20 Re: training Mex cartel bros as PMC's
"what could go wrong"
Posted by: pxx | Apr 9 2024 17:34 utc | 23
#1 Down south, thanks, I scrolled further down Slavyangrad and there it was. I also see Scott Ritter posted similar , vid of RF official talking about. His post credits InfoRepublic. Should be a field day of developments on this one.
And for the day to day stuff, assertions that at Chasiv Yar there are many intercepts of UKR asking to retreat and being denied.
Would this be the year that RF cancels Easter and the May holidays for the mililtary because there are just too many gaping holes for the RF to plunge forward? Probably not that much success, but one can dream.
Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 9 2024 17:42 utc | 24
French retired General Coustou said that General Georgolin was killed in Ukraine. He came for in inspection, went too close to the front and was killed.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 9 2024 17:51 utc | 25
WhirlX:
You can do it anyway you want. Airborne, amphibs, conventional, teleporting. If you can actually get Odessa by early spring, you win the Internet.
But...we are already in early spring. Maybe a month to go until "early spring" is over. You need to get those boys going! Chop, chop!
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 9 2024 17:57 utc | 26
Given the increasing odds for civil unrest in the US, I have to wonder when these new drug cartel brigades might be used internally to kill "domestic US terrorists"?
Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 9 2024 16:59 utc | 17
It's also worth considering how these cartel members came to be cartel members in the first place. It's not purely a matter of psychopathic disfunction. Most of these gangsters are just poor young men unable to find legitimate work. Such young me often turn to gangs- but these gangs, under the right circumstances, often become revolutionary forces. We can see this in Haiti right now. Arming and training thousands of these young men creates a very unpredictable element whose future actions are difficult to anticipate, either in the US or in their countries of origin. The same countries, btw, that the Fortress America strategy requires the US to control much more thoroughly than it currently does. No telling what well trained armed gangster might do when the pressure is on in these places, as it surely will be soon.
Posted by: Honzo | Apr 9 2024 17:58 utc | 27
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2024 17:14 utc | 22
#############
Is it inappropriate for me to laugh?
Mistakes happen and during war they are quickly punished upon discovery.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 17:59 utc | 28
This thing with Burisma is Pandora’s Box. Trump got impeached because his mentioning the corruption and there is even doubt that Biden was put forward and became president exactly because he was involved and is thus motivated to cover up what they were doing in Ukraine during Obamas term.
How are they going to react when facts become to come out? That they were scooping out gas transit fees from Russia to the EU for personal enrichment and to finance shenanigans all over the world?
With the Nordstream, and the Germans know this, the transit fees would have died out and a large income stream for many many people would have died out too. Worth a war? Maybe.
Posted by: alek_a | Apr 9 2024 18:00 utc | 29
Perimetr (18).
Here's the link.
https://ria.ru/20240409/verbovka-1938891829.html
And there's this one as well.
https://tass.com/politics/1772681
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 18:00 utc | 30
Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 9 2024 17:42 utc | 24
Some days ago Dima said there were intercepts from the eastern part of Chasov Yar (Kanal micro district) requesting evacs. Apparently abnormally many.
There was another report AFU was forced to move some troops from Kanal to the central part, because Kanal was overcrowded enabling bombs to cause a lot more damage. So over-stacking is an issue.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2024 18:02 utc | 31
There is success today in the Donetsk direction .From n.p. Pervomaiskoe finally knocked out the enemy.
From n.p. In Semyonovka the enemy is knocked out by half. The assault continues. The enemy is putting up fierce resistance in the settlement. Berdychi had to overcome stubborn enemy resistance on every street. At the moment, approximately 2/3 of the settlement is behind us. But here I would not rush, since the enemy is counterattacking, trying to restore the situation.
The battle for Berdychi goes on almost around the clock with the active use of fpv drones, artillery and mortars on both sides. The “swing” continues, but our amplitude is increasing.
There are attempts to transfer enemy reinforcements to this section of the front, and attempts are being made to stop them with airborne forces.
Posted by: MiniMo | Apr 9 2024 18:25 utc | 32
re: pesec | Apr 9 2024 17:09 utc | 21 and Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2024 18:00 utc | 30
many thanks
Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 9 2024 19:01 utc | 33
It ain’t easy going up against the majority of the money bags in the world.
LOL, NATO's GDP is mostly paper-pushing. BRICS has real resources and manufacturing might. The West is bringing a collection of stern words to a gunfight.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 9 2024 19:23 utc | 34
Why are so many former members of the Obama administration requesting emergency plastic surgery and gender transition appointments?
Posted by: Matthew | Apr 9 2024 19:31 utc | 35
Anonymous | Apr 9 2024 17:57 utc | 26
Calling Gerasimov tonite, I promise. Shoigu already knows.
Militarily, nobody cares about Odessa - the city. Getting to Transnistria, Gagauzia and eyes deep over Danube delta is a big win. That is or would be a check-mate.
Do you think that Ukraine can resist there and repel Russia?
Posted by: whirlX | Apr 9 2024 19:35 utc | 36
Notice that the CIA and MI6 are now targeting Victor Orban?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 9 2024 15:31 utc | 5
The second Orban approved nato expansion and EU funding for Ukr he became useless for them and he no longer has any leverage, he's finished.
Also in Georgia they are funding protests to prevent the "foreign agent" law.
Posted by: rk | Apr 9 2024 19:37 utc | 37
[email protected] on transit fees is the tip of the iceberg, add in body parts, body trafficking slavery, sex traffic, child trafficking, pharmaceutical narcotics, black market narcotics, illegal weapons market....I'm sure I missed a few dozen.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 9 2024 19:41 utc | 38
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2024 17:14 utc | 22
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 17:59 utc | 28
It must be from the first days of the war??? Otherwise it is hardly to believe that so many are stored so close together!?
Posted by: NoName | Apr 9 2024 19:43 utc | 39
Mistakes happen and during war they are quickly punished upon discovery.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 17:59 utc | 28
That has only ever reliably applied to the lower ranks, with all easily foreseeable consequences and costs.
Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 9 2024 19:47 utc | 40
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/co-incidences-tuesday-april-9-2024/comments
Posted by: Publius Flavius | Apr 9 2024 19:50 utc | 41
The sure signs of near Ukro collapse would me massive surrender, desertions or mutinies. We do not see that yet. The collapse is far away.
Posted by: vargas | Apr 9 2024 19:58 utc | 42
ZH has a posting up with the title
US Sent Seized Iranian Weapons, Ammo To Ukraine As Resupply Efforts Hit Desperation
the quote
The Pentagon announced Tuesday it has delivered thousands of small arms previously seized from a shipment intended for Yemen's Houthi rebels, along with over half a million rounds of ammunition.The US believes the seized arms were supplied by Iran, and recent years have seen an untick in these 'illegal' shipments from Tehran to the Houthis via regional waters. US Central Command had said the arms were delivered to Ukraine forces last week, coming amid reported severe ammo and weapons shortages along the front lines with Russia.
"The US government transferred over 5,000 AK-47s, machine guns, sniper rifles, RPG-7s and over 500,000 rounds of 7.62mm ammunition to the Ukrainian armed forces" on Thursday, CENTCOM announced on social media.
"These weapons will help Ukraine defend against Russia's invasion" and are enough material to equip a brigade, the statement touted further.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 20:00 utc | 43
We now have direct evidence of the Outlaw US Empire's aim to destroy Russian LNG gas works in the Arctic as RT reports, "US pledges to prevent Russia from developing new energy projects: Washington wants to ensure that Novatek’s Arctic LNG 2 project is “dead in the water,” the State Department has said."
The US is aiming to halt the development of the Russian energy sector, including a major new LNG project in the Arctic, senior State Department official Geoffrey Pyatt has said.Speaking at a Financial Times summit on Monday, Pyatt stated that the US is specifically targeting the Arctic LNG 2 project in Russia’s northern Yamal Region, which is being developed by private energy giant Novatek.
“Our goal is to ensure that Arctic LNG 2 is dead in the water,” Pyatt, who serves as assistant secretary of state for energy resources, was quoted as saying by the British newspaper. “We’re very focused on ensuring that Russia is not able to develop new projects in order to [redirect] the gas that it had previously sent into Europe.”
The US has imposed several rounds of economic restrictions on Arctic LNG 2, the most recent of which was announced in November 2023.
I wrote an article last September on that project, "Novatek's LNG-2 Constuction", that consisted of a series of videos and text. I opined recently that those works and others are vulnerable to NATO marine drones, and with the destruction of Nord Stream there's little to stop the Outlaw US Empire from duplicating its effort as announced by Pyatt. Now that direct links to the Outlaw US Empire's terrorist financing are being discovered, Russia must take the threat to its vital and very expensive and intricate LNG works extremely seriously as I'm certain any NATO nation would enjoy the task of targeting them, particularly newbies Finland and Sweden to prove their worth.
@karlof1 | Apr 9 2024 20:05 utc | 44
Geoffrey Pyatt was the US ambassador in Kiev in 2014 and known for being on the other end of the intercepted "Fuck the EU" phone call with Victoria Nuland.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 9 2024 20:13 utc | 45
In other news reported by RT, Borrell has made yet another gaff:
"‘High-intensity war in Europe no longer a fantasy’ – Borrell":
"Speaking at a Forum Europa gathering in Brussels on Tuesday, Borrell claimed that the “possibility of a high-intensity conventional war in Europe is no longer a fantasy” and that the bloc must “do everything to avoid it"."
Just what sort of war does Borrell think is happening in Ukraine? It sure seems pretty "high-intensity" to me and many other observers. Then he goes onto say that Europe must "do everything to avoid" the conflict it started in 2014. The man needs to be put out to pasture or sent to the front.
Norwegian | Apr 9 2024 20:13 utc | 45--
Thanks for reminding the bar of that fact. The words he chose mirror those spoken by Biden regarding Nord Stream. IMO, Russia must anticipate those works being attacked.
Speaking at a Financial Times summit on Monday, Pyatt stated that the US is specifically targeting the Arctic LNG 2 project in Russia’s northern Yamal Region, which is being developed by private energy giant Novatek.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2024 20:05 utc | 44
It looks like a bluff. A dog ready to cling usually does not give itself away by barking loudly...
Posted by: Виктор | Apr 9 2024 20:18 utc | 48
karlof1 | Apr 9 2024 20:05 utc | 44
That's quite a step up from nordstream. Nordstream was bombed in the economic zones of Sweden and Denmark.
I have felt the Biden Obama faction and the section of the deep state behind them will get desperate in the time until the US elections.
Cameron now UK foreign minister desperately trying to push US into escalating as well.
For us spectators though, just a matter of waiting and watching to see what eventuates.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 20:32 utc | 49
Awhile back, there were questions as to what platform would launch the FAB-3000. This Sputnik item, "Chinese Experts Awed by New Russian 'Superbomb'", shows a picture of a Tu-22m in its header. Given the altitude and speed that plane is capable of, the glide range of the bomb could be very considerable despite its size and its speed at impact would add to its overall destructive force.
Виктор | Apr 9 2024 20:18 utc | 48--
Thanks for your reply. In my response to Norwegian, I cited Biden's veiled threat which nobody took seriously at the time. Given what we've seen since, IMO it would be folly of Russia to ignore or lightly take this "hint."
Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 20:32 utc | 49--
Thanks for your reply. IMO, such an attack would be rather easy from a sub. Recall who/what Pyatt is as we were reminded. IMO, at this point, NATO's capable of almost anything.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 9 2024 17:51 utc | 25
Do you have a link for that info? Searched for Coustou and sounds interesting, the great menace for France is not Putin, it is Macron the general says. The other general, Georgolin supposedly died on a mountain climbing accident.
Posted by: Paco | Apr 9 2024 20:47 utc | 52
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2024 20:36 utc | 50
In the image of the TU-160.
Posted by: Виктор | Apr 9 2024 20:50 utc | 53
Burismo and the Biden mafia soap opera is beyond even self-parody: just in your face brazen organised crime swaggering down the high street, no shame.
The reason Russia is getting richer is the same reason Ukraine is getting poorer. Western business enriches an economy in the same way a tapeworm enriches its host. It doesn’t. There is no “trickle-down” benefit of hosting a tapeworm. Resource is continually extracted and removed, causing emaciation.
Russia dewormed itself by the ejection of McDonalds, Starbucks and the rest. Revealing just how much such western icons of capitalism suck dry economies just like parasites while pretending to herald economic growth. Like so much from the west the reality is the opposite of the rhetoric. Ukraine’s sorry fate is a massive and fatal infestation of western parasitic worms of every description.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 9 2024 20:50 utc | 54
It must be from the first days of the war??? Otherwise it is hardly to believe that so many are stored so close together!?
Posted by: NoName | Apr 9 2024 19:43 utc | 39
Purely a wild guess, but with such a variety of artillery calibers, surely they will run out at different rates. Is this a possible early indication of that? Guns with nothing left to shoot, so not well hidden or disbursed...
Posted by: varnel | Apr 9 2024 20:59 utc | 55
karlof1 | Apr 9 2024 20:05 utc | 44
Thanks for pointing this out. Surely, the issue is there.
That is why I think Russian subs are pretty much active around, also do not forget putting the Russian flag by a rover, deep on the bottom of the North Pole years ago. Russian Arctic Snow Niggers have substantial forces there with the top equipment.
So, it could be, that is well controlled and reasonably secured. Surely being so remote, also the best place to exchange a few quick stabs under the table, and check the opponent. I would think that a buffer there is about 150 km to the nearest critical point.
But, what I see is this constant Ukro/NATO threat to the Turk Stream in the Black Sea.
That is why joint patrols with the Turkish navy is necessary. And that is where Putin has Erdo by the twinkie.
It is a rather simple algorithm - if Turk Stream dead = Erdo dead, by its own Turkish people and military hands, as Türkiye would have an economic fallout + it goes bankrupt quickly and badly, a huge inflation breaking it prior, as in currently being around 50%.
For Putin, if Turk Stream blows, he has an extra motive to force Erdo to close the Black Sea together, defying NATO badly.
Or Putin can also throw the flowers in the sea and walk away, indeed making Russia a bit poorer on the energy revenues. But just a little.
Erdo has only one choice and it is playing a useful role.
So, there, as it seems Erdo's usefulness bends the NATO pretty much to the heels, for a moment. At least in that quadrant.
As for Kaliningrad - an important port with a big storage capacity.
I can see some petty tryouts of a containment - a NATO Sea, a NAFO babble - but surely there is a rumor that, if Ukrainians show up there and do bad stuff, all the territory they came through and countries that help them there, will be treated as a fair game, focusing on their military installations and troops. That is extremely escalatory public stance, with even more radicals in some military circles that would be happy to go for it. Belorus is obliged to help there, if the case stands.
Why I am straying there? As per a cut-off the gap between Belarus and Kaliningrad, the NATO Arctic dream is over, very quickly. As they lose a Eastern Scandinavia the shortest strategic logistic connect. No air, no train, no road. The question would be: How it develops further?
Control over Suwlaki might just do a long term paralysis.
Also, I read some fresh ideas on a NATO enforced no-fly zones over the Baltic, the Black Sea and all of Ukraine. See how that goes.
Posted by: whirlX | Apr 9 2024 21:21 utc | 56
[email protected] the contracts differ from the ones many incarcerated Russians signed when they joined Wager....redemption comes in many forms.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 9 2024 21:24 utc | 57
Chasov Yar video https://twitter.com/vicktop55
I read something about US sending Iranian weapons that the US had stolen to Ukraine. Assault rifles. a few RPG's. Using still live bodies armed with assault rifles to stop artillery, glide bombs, drones, tank fire ect...
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 21:39 utc | 58
Posted by: Down South | Apr 9 2024 15:04 utc | 2
[thank you for your posts over the past two years (2years!!!). Always appreciated]
The Ukrainian Armed Forces military themselves report that there have been more leaks of Ukrainian Armed Forces positions
Another U$NATO NAFO miscalculation.
They anticipated Russia dealing with an insurgency as they moved further into Donbass. Because insurgency is what U$ fostered with its invasions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. (To name just 3).
Now they face insurgency again, this time against the
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 9 2024 21:57 utc | 60
BBC headline asks "WHY IS RUSSIA TRYING TO FRAME UKRAINE OVER CROCAS HALL ATTACK"?
You have to laugh don't you?
Well, theres a couple of reasons, Auntie Beeb
1. The US warned of a terror attack in Moscow prior to the event
2. The perpetrators were heading for the Ukraine border
3. The perpetrators have admitted to a Kiev involvement.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 9 2024 22:01 utc | 61
@57...redemption; for the Wagner guys...
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 9 2024 22:03 utc | 62
whirlX | Apr 9 2024 21:21 utc | 56
…what I see is this constant Ukro/NATO threat to the Turk Stream in the Black Sea.
Tucker Carlson interviewed Hungary’s Orban. TC raised NS2.
Orban said: (Not verbatim) “NS2 is Germany’s issue. But I said “turkstream.. never. forgedaboutit”
TC: “who did you give this warning to?”
Orban: “not Moscow”
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 9 2024 22:07 utc | 63
Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 21:39 utc | 58
…US sending Iranian weapons that the US had stolen to Ukraine…
So, a Iran/Contras redux???
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 9 2024 22:12 utc | 64
https://t.me/legitimniy/17635
Posted by: Down South | Apr 9 2024 15:04 utc | 2
I doubt attitudes are swinging one way or the other in Ukraine. I'd more guess they are hardening, enough to anger Russian sympathizers to sabotage and subterfuge regardless of risk.
And the more it looks like Ukraine will lose, the braver pro-Russians will get, as likely they will only get rewards if they can reach Russia or Russia reaches them, as well as stop living in fear of being found out by GRU et al.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 9 2024 22:23 utc | 65
...would the contracts differ from the ones many incarcerated Russians signed when they joined Wager....redemption comes in many forms.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 9 2024 21:24 utc | 57
Latin American gangsters/prisoners would think of escaping back home to a support network and no warrants.
Russian prisoners home was Russia, where the only escape would most likely end in going back to prison.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 9 2024 22:27 utc | 66
3. The perpetrators have admitted to a Kiev involvement.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 9 2024 22:01 utc | 61
Buuuuuut they were tooorchereeed!! Cuz Roooosha!!
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2024 22:33 utc | 67
Well arming former prisoners especially if they are mercenaries is a very dangerous two edged sword.
We know the sequence for Wagner - got excessive hubris and tried for a coup. They chose badly.
In the USA arming many from Mexico is very dangerous. Just might be keen on a coup in California. Unlike the situation in Russia there is a huge Latino population that just might join a coup - or at least enough of them to provide support and cover to the militant types.
Posted by: watcher | Apr 9 2024 22:33 utc | 68
Posted by: watcher | Apr 9 2024 22:33 utc | 68
The corruption in USA in the Southwest is surely already terminal, or else the cartels would not operate with such impunity... ..everywhere in USA.
One investigator, George Webb, found very compelling evidence Seth Rich was killed by two latin gang members who were found dead a few weeks later in North Virginia.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 9 2024 22:39 utc | 69
3. The perpetrators have admitted to a Kiev involvement.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 9 2024 22:01 utc | 61
Buuuuuut they were tooorchereeed!! Cuz Roooosha!!
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2024 22:33 utc | 67
Arrrrhhhh.....but why did they implicate Kiev when tortured? If they implicated Kiev, then they weren't jihadists were they? So, if they werent jihadists, what was their motive? It was money. Money from where or whom?
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 9 2024 22:42 utc | 70
Posted by: watcher | Apr 9 2024 22:33 utc | 68
Oops, my point in 69 was meant to be, there would not be an actual coup, jist more like the situation in Mexico, where half the army and cops serve one cartel or another, and any "tough on crime" newly elected politicians are found hanging from overpasses.
The Cartels have way of instilling terror. I have seen videos I will never forget, the worst of any I have seen. They release these videos publicly for that purpose.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 9 2024 22:48 utc | 71
@5 Tobias Cole
Acredito que você não esteja bem informado sobre o Brasil.
Bolsonaro não é nacionalista, nem sequer um conservador.
Ele é um farsante nazista que cometeu incontáveis crimes durante seu mandato e ainda não foi preso por que Lula, que sofreu com o lawfare que o manteve preso por 510 dias sem ter cometido nenhum crime, faz questão que seja aplicado para Bozo o devido processo penal que para ele (Lula) foi negado.
Posted by: Soviético | Apr 9 2024 23:13 utc | 72
Alguém me ajude, por favor.
Eu não sei como usar auto-tradução para traduzir minhas postagens.
Posted by: Soviético | Apr 9 2024 23:15 utc | 73
I hadn't noticed this one earlier. Video of SU-25's flying low over Chasov Yar.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1777660504514678877
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 23:23 utc | 74
Posted by: watcher | Apr 9 2024 22:33 utc | 68
Arming criminals works only if you are winning. This is the same as giving weapons to the most corrupted country on Earth works only if that country happens to be winning.
The worse the situation gets for the corrupt country on whose side armed, trained criminals are, and weapons are given, the more likely it is that armed criminals and untraceable weapons now spreading through the black market will blow back to the origin countries. Also, the worse the economic situation gets.
This is because everyone will try to make a buck however they can in the increasingly impoverished environment.
That is, the worse Ukraine is losing, the more weapons will be sold on the black market, and the more criminals will try to escape from the AFU ranks. The armed crime will boomerang back to the west, EU, mostly.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2024 23:25 utc | 75
@20 Perímetro
Sinto informar-lhe, mas o DEA é o maior parceiro da CIA no negócio de drogas.
Posted by: Soviético | Apr 9 2024 23:26 utc | 76
Hunter Bidens Meta Biota was used to siphon money to the pentagon biolabs in Ukraine. Burisma used to channel money to the terrorists. US money siphoned through Hunter Biden crime connections/businesses. Where does that come from?
MI6 likely the organizers and US off the books money to fund it?
18th March Obama 'unofficial' visit to Downing Street. 23rd March the concert terrorist attack in Moscow.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 23:31 utc | 77
Gonna be war because in the next 10 years the war is inevitable. All over the planet. The periphery will try to be free, but might be bad: terrible times for the people
I hope this will be in Our some pan regions: the rights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZuAf7VAeKg
Posted by: Cra | Apr 9 2024 23:40 utc | 78
Posted by: Soviet | April 9, 2024 23:15 UTC | 73
Only for the Soviet!
Se vc estiver usando celular, instale o aplicativo Google Tradutor. Fiz testes, e ele traduz com altíssima eficiência, tanto os textos eruditos do MoA, quanto os textos vulgares por aí afora. Excelente traduções: algo excepcional e até inacreditável! Qualquer coisa, eis meu email: [email protected].
Posted by: Elber | Apr 9 2024 23:44 utc | 79
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 23:31 utc | 77
Yes. Nice to see Russia get formally, legally interested in Burisma.
I think the SMO had to progress to a certain point for this. Also I think the US had to be squeezed to a certain point for this.
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 0:00 utc | 80
You are able to understand that Europe needs a war to justifícate the money.
In 2030, the UE is over because there won't be more money. No production, no cash. Some communities will survive due we have survive from always.
We are like those poor people who lives in Gaza: we are trying to help them with our consciousness, because we don't have the guts to fight for them.
We are mad
Posted by: Cra | Apr 10 2024 0:06 utc | 81
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 0:00 utc | 80
I’ve always thought it would take a strong outside force to help take on the strong powers (deep state) behind such things as Burisma.
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 0:10 utc | 82
It’s almost like the Kremlin is hinting that if the US is so convinced Russia meddles in its elections, then the Kremlin might as well play the game. It hardly matters whether the Burisma announcement is backed up with any evidence (it probably is backed up). The Russian government announcing it is very un-Putin like, it lacks his traditional discretion.
So if you’re in the Biden admin, with an election in seven months, you have to at least wonder if there is any evidence. Yelling “Trump! Putin!” might not be enough. Republicans will believe it. Gen Z might believe it; they’re not too happy with Genocide Joe anyhow. Without old Joe the whole Ukraine thing could unwind in a hurry.
In the unlikely event that actual evidence gets handed to the right people and those people act on it, the accusation contains a beyond Watergate level of political scandal. Seven months before the election, with no party opponent to be the logical and democratic replacement. If Joe finds out about all this he could have a stroke or a heart attack.
In the more likely event that no hard evidence is distributed and/or nobody actual acts on that evidence, it’s a point of disunity in the American electorate. Something one side believes and the other doesn’t, so they have something to fight and accuse each other over. Let the games begin.
Posted by: Lex | Apr 10 2024 0:11 utc | 83
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 0:00 utc | 80
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I have long suspected that Russia, China, and India know more than they say. It's the US that has to blab about everything it knows to feed a 24-hour partisan outrage media cycle.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 10 2024 0:18 utc | 84
You thing this is a flop, but, I tell you: no name gonna be with out retribution:
Posted by: Cra | Apr 10 2024 0:24 utc | 85
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 10 2024 0:18 utc | 84
Agree. I think it was the theater massacre that brought Russia to formally look into charges against the West.
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 0:28 utc | 86
Burisma - Kolomoyskyi. The Nuland Pyatt phone call is well known. But there is also one of Kolomoyski in a video call after a few drinks. I watched it a few times. It's near a certainty he was somehow involved in MH17.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 0:42 utc | 87
Lex | Apr 10 2024 0:11 utc | 83 "The Russian government announcing it is very un-Putin like, it lacks his traditional discretion."
As Putin said - The Empire of Lies.
I believe there is now a split in the US deep state. Possibly the right time for Russia to make a move.
But also perhaps a move of desperation on the part of the US globalist faction and UK and they have left a solid money trail. I haven't seen total death toll - many were burnt to one or two bone fragments but from my understanding, 200 plus civilians killed, not by religious extremists but by mercenaries.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 0:57 utc | 88
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 0:28 utc | 86
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I think the presumptive victory in Ukraine + America's election year dysfunction + Israel means now is one of the best times to go after the US. It's not a standalone kill shot but it can be another straw on an overloaded camel's back.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 10 2024 1:01 utc | 89
Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 0:57 utc | 88--
One brazen action too many. Recall who financed the Chechen terror--Putin's directly accused the Outlaw US Empire/West. Think about the new finance system and Russia saying to RoW who wants to do business with International Terrorists. Then there's the issue of making peace with Terrorists. Once again, we see the West not thinking things through leaving it wide open to being hung by its own hubris.
One brazen action too many.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 10 2024 1:20 utc | 90
I think so.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 1:29 utc | 91
@79 Elber
Muito obrigado.
Já uso o tradutor automático do Google para ler os textos dos demais barflyes e realmente ele é surpreendentemente bom.
Mas meu problema é com as postagens. Simplesmente não sei traduzir minhas postagens.
Sou neófito em fóruns internacionais via smartphone e achava, até, que a tradução automática já era feita, até que a Susan me avisou que não
Posted by: Soviético | Apr 10 2024 1:51 utc | 92
Brian Berletic. [who has been prescient from Day 1 of sloSMO. ]
Threat of Direct Western Intervention in Ukraine
▪️This is a prospect I've warned about since the Special Military Operation began in 2022;
▪️This began as a proxy conflict in 2014 when Washington specifically overthrew the elected government of Ukraine and began militarizing the country to menace Russia on its own borders. This is a US conflict;
▪️However, the US narrative has always been it is "defending" Ukraine from "Russian aggression," and cannot afford to be seen initiating direct conflict with Russia, it must be "European" nations that do so with the US appearing to assist only as a reluctant afterthought;
▪️The US is using a UK-French-Baltic front. Germany for obvious historical and political reasons must appear reluctant but will most certainly support the conflict as it has already been doing all along;
▪️The US will also pose as reluctant to enter what is in fact a US intervention with British-French "leadership" designed to afford the US plausible deniability just as the US uses Israel in the Middle East to fan the flames of what is essentially a US conflict with Iran and its allies;
All of this is discerned from decades of US foreign policy documents which regularly attempt to initiate conflict by proxy to absolve the US itself of starting the very wars it itself engineers - whether in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, or Asia-Pacific.
Whether or not this is a bluff or a serious, desperate attempt to reverse a failing proxy war remains to be seen.
Worst Case Scenario:
NATO cannot survive a long-term protracted conflict with Russia and would instead seek to break Russian forces with a large-scale rapid attack - much like the Ukrainian 2023 offensive attempted to do, but with additional capabilities like air power and larger quantities of long-range cruise missile attacking both along the front and deep within Russian territory.
Russia has carefully preserved its fighting capacity almost certainly for this very contingency.
The collective West has consistently and severely overestimated its own capabilities and underestimated not only Russia's, but the state of the rest of the world outside the West.
It would be a mistake for Russia to underestimate how far the West will go and what they will do to reverse their flagging fortunes.
It remains to be seen whether the US and its proxies are setting a trap for Russia, of ultimately for themselves...
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/50402
>… Follow The New Atlas on Telegram: https://t.me/brianlovethailand
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 10 2024 1:58 utc | 93
Re: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2024 20:05 utc | 44
I wrote an article last September on that project, "Novatek's LNG-2 Constuction", that consisted of a series of videos and text. I opined recently that those works and others are vulnerable to NATO marine drones, and with the destruction of Nord Stream there's little to stop the Outlaw US Empire from duplicating its effort as announced by Pyatt. Now that direct links to the Outlaw US Empire's terrorist financing are being discovered, Russia must take the threat to its vital and very expensive and intricate LNG works extremely seriously as I'm certain any NATO nation would enjoy the task of targeting them, particularly newbies Finland and Sweden to prove their worth.
If The West blows up Novatek’s LNG2 in The Arctic - Russia we’ll not do anything - Russia/Putin will do as they always do and ‘turn the other cheek’.
Russia does not want to escalate tensions unnecessarily.
Reacting to a provocation such as this derails Russia’s strategic plan.
Better to do nothing and smile.
The West knows Russia will not do anything to react - that is part of The West’s calculation and why this LNG2 will be blown up.
If Russia were to react they would pose their escalatory dominance.
Better to remain calm and do nothing.
Posted by: Julian | Apr 10 2024 2:06 utc | 94
Russia has carefully preserved its fighting capacity almost certainly for this very contingency.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 10 2024 1:58 utc | 93
Russia - Putin Medvedev, perhaps Lavrov - spoke about what they were seeing in the west from very early on. I suspect Russia has not just preserved its fighting capacity, but greatly increased it when in comes to forces facing or held in reserve for Europe.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 2:07 utc | 95
@ Posted by: Honzo | Apr 9 2024 17:58 utc | 27
Once again the popular MSM (mainly) refuses to cover the main driving force behind narco-crimes....religion.
I saw the first article on this over 12 years ago, and you rarely see any, and certainly not on any MSM, be it CNN, Fox News, ABC etc.
And as a religion, you just can't beat it. Ask Muslims to stop following the prophet, they will not even consider it. Catholics the Pope, etc.
https://nypost.com/2021/12/21/religious-saints-of-murders-outlaws-worshiped-by-cartels/
Santa Muerte is a strange combination of Catholics saint worship and maybe a trace of Aztec blood religion.
Anyone who say they want to fight the drug smuggling problem,m and doesn't mention the religious ties, has no idea of what they are talking about.
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Apr 10 2024 2:19 utc | 96
Posted by: Soviético | Apr 10 2024 1:51 utc | 92
Only for the Soviético.
Caro Soviético, boa noite!
Quem domina o vernáculo não se sente bem lavrando textos multíscios em outro idioma; uma coisa é um mero diálogo; outra, deveras distinta, é a exposição de uma perspectiva erudita num ambiente intelectual como o do MoA, onde os barflies avaliam até mesmo a sintaxe do inglês de Bernard.
Isto posto, peço-lhe paciência e queira ler com atenção o seguinte:
1/3) presumo que vc esteja CONFUNDINDO a tradução automática do navegador Chrome COM o aplicativo Google Tradutor, propriamente dito.
2/3) Pois é possível ter-se a tradução automática do navegador e não se ter o aplicativo Google Tradutor.
3/3) Instalado esse aplicativo, ele tem DUAS JANELAS: vc escreve o texto numa; e a réplica, já vertida, surge na outra. Você vai adorar!
Posted by: Elber | Apr 10 2024 3:11 utc | 97
BroncoBilly | Apr 10 2024 2:19 utc | 96
Islam covers a range. The church of Rome... That is the 'west'.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 3:17 utc | 98
Posted by: Soviético | Apr 10 2024 1:51 utc | 92
Minha sugestão é primeiro você fazer sua postagem no lado português da tela do Google Tradutor. Em seguida, olhe para o lado inglês à direita e você pode ver abaixo do texto em inglês um símbolo ou ícone que se parece com um quadrado acima de outro quadrado. Ao tocar nesse ícone, o texto em inglês será copiado para a memória do seu telefone. Se você não o vir com o telefone na vertical, tente girá-lo para a horizontal e você verá o ícone na parte inferior do lado direito. Depois de tocar nele e mudar para a guia ou janela do fórum MoA, mantenha o dedo no quadrado onde normalmente digita seus comentários. Enquanto você segura seu dedo
na tela você deverá ver o comando "colar". Ao tocar na palavra “colar” deverá inserir o texto em inglês. Se não funcionar, informe-nos e tentarei encontrar um vídeo tutorial para você assistir.
Posted by: Paranaense | Apr 10 2024 3:23 utc | 99
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Apr 10 2024 2:19 utc | 96
Very few people outside Latin America know how enormous Santaria is, or the kind of people who are drawn to it.
Id say most of them think of it as a word in a sublime song, maybe kind of like and as occult as voodoo.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 10 2024 3:42 utc | 100
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