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April 5, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-099
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 5 2024 14:57 utc | 8 Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 5 2024 23:41 utc | 101 Ukraine’s largest book chain publishes memoirs of a Croatian Nazi (RIA Novosti, March 31, 2024 — in Russian)
Posted by: S | Apr 5 2024 23:46 utc | 102 Posted by: scorpion | Apr 5 2024 23:33 utc | 100
But re-question: Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 5 2024 23:55 utc | 103
Screenwriter by any chance?! Russia must learn from Iran, North Korea and Sweden to have underground hangers for military planes. Posted by: Jason | Apr 6 2024 0:07 utc | 105 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 5 2024 23:55 utc | 103 Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2024 22:31 utc | 89 Posted by: Milites | Apr 6 2024 0:13 utc | 107 Posted by: ossi | Apr 5 2024 17:33 utc | 40 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 6 2024 0:14 utc | 108 Honzo | Apr 5 2024 19:00 utc | 58 Posted by: Talleyrand | Apr 6 2024 0:21 utc | 109 @ It wasn’t just the Prussian aristocracy or German heavy industry that lost at Kursk and Berlin. All Germany did. Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 6 2024 0:58 utc | 110 Posted by: scorpion | Apr 6 2024 0:12 utc | 106
Yes, you’re right concerning the fact that “Eastern-Asia” Govs and RF are probally more efficient to restore some “broken” heritage buildings. But here (this forum) we are discussing, whether or not beside this UKR/RF war could be any ‘Diplomatic solution’ by means of a sudden “Fire pause” all over currently active combat lines. Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 6 2024 1:11 utc | 111 I linked a piece by Dugin about how the whole Western world is going to Hell. He traces some of the philosophical-religious-political-cultural reasons for it but it boils down to a civilization losing its core essence. Posted by: JackG | Apr 6 2024 1:22 utc | 112 Posted by: Talleyrand | Apr 5 2024 15:52 utc | 14 Posted by: snake | Apr 6 2024 1:30 utc | 113 Only to remind here: Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 6 2024 1:45 utc | 114 The four pillars of The West were Christianity, Greek Realism, Roman Patriarchy, and Roman Rule by Law. All four have been overthrown by the Cultural Marxism. Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 1:50 utc | 115 John Helmer’s latest, in which he interprets the Crocus Hall attack as an attempt to encourage racial tensions within Russia is well worth the minimal energy involved in following the link to Posted by: bevin | Apr 6 2024 1:58 utc | 116 Posted by: bevin | Apr 6 2024 1:58 utc | 116 Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 2:04 utc | 117 I wouldn’t have to be in the situation of the “Navy Pilot” – even he’s living any more to overcome “that moments” – CIA/FBI Go on this case, as ever precisely “targeted” in Your own interest sections … Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 6 2024 2:07 utc | 118 Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 1:50 utc | 115 Posted by: Eclavdra | Apr 6 2024 2:12 utc | 119 the latest “crazy” guys with their meanings I’ve sampled acc.to this UKR-WAR subject of WAR RF/UKR civilians, is that we’ll follow that onging war course against our ever own home-land in UKRANIA – even being killed by a drone attack. Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 6 2024 2:19 utc | 120 Finally took a short break from my vacation to post this new article, “Crooke: The Art of War: Different Thinking Systems,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/crooke-the-art-of-war-different-thinking I’ll tentatively make a prediction, based on various current indicators, the end will come a lot quicker than many expect. It’s not hard really, as Ukraine is following the trajectory of the loser, Russia the victor. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 2:56 utc | 122 Re: Posted by: Pierrot | Apr 5 2024 22:30 utc | 88
Laughable. Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 3:00 utc | 123 You expect Russia to declare victory in this month of April with Ukraine destroyed? Your belief is completely DELUSIONAL. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 4:38 utc | 124 Re: Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 4:38 utc | 124 Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 5:01 utc | 125 S | Apr 5 2024 23:46 utc | 102 Posted by: bevin | Apr 6 2024 5:13 utc | 126
Posted by: Down South | Apr 6 2024 5:21 utc | 127 Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 5:01 utc | 125 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 5:23 utc | 128
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/93727 Posted by: Down South | Apr 6 2024 5:25 utc | 129 Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 3:00 utc | 123 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 5:26 utc | 130 Ha! Watching Nikita season three episode five on Tubi, and Team Nikita is talking about the new strongman President of Uzbekistan, one who had been put in place as an operative by a covert agency, but who has now branched out on his own. He started out in the security services but after President Zelensky suddenly died, he took over. Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 6 2024 5:31 utc | 131 Julian | Apr 6 2024 5:01 utc | 125 Posted by: bevin | Apr 6 2024 5:31 utc | 132 Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 5:01 utc | 125 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 5:59 utc | 133 Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 1:50 utc | 115 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Apr 6 2024 6:15 utc | 134 Posted by: bevin | Apr 6 2024 5:31 utc | 132 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 6:15 utc | 135 Ukraine Weekly Update, 5th April 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-7c0 (sorry it’s late). Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Apr 6 2024 6:51 utc | 136 re: karlof1 | Apr 6 2024 2:32 utc | 121 Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 6 2024 7:13 utc | 137 NATO has let its stupid boasting to run away with it. That is why, while none of the countries involved is likely to admit that it has been beaten, Russia has so undermined and exposed NATO’s lightminded weakness that the alliance will never recover. Posted by: rk | Apr 6 2024 7:26 utc | 138 Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 5:23 utc | 128
You must be unfamiliar with the Russian celebrations of winning World War II on May 9 every year. Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 7:36 utc | 139 Posted by: rk | Apr 6 2024 7:26 utc | 137 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Apr 6 2024 7:37 utc | 140 Re: Posted by: bevin | Apr 6 2024 5:31 utc | 132
Ukraine has not been defeated! How you can even make that claim is ridiculous. Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 7:40 utc | 141 Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 7:40 utc | 140 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Apr 6 2024 7:44 utc | 142 Posted by: Talleyrand | Apr 6 2024 0:21 utc | 109 Posted by: kspr | Apr 6 2024 7:56 utc | 143 War and slavery are universal features of human history. Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 8:04 utc | 144 Anything short of what happened at the end of World War II is simply not a victory – and anyone claiming so is deluded – the war will go on. Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 8:10 utc | 145 Re: Posted by: Membrum Virile | Apr 6 2024 7:44 utc | 141
Indeed – so you admit the war is yet to be won? Well, we agree on that. Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 8:31 utc | 146 When i heard Netherlands gave their only SAM to Ukraine, I could not help but think, as the west disarms itself in the pits of Ukraine.. Posted by: UWDude | Apr 6 2024 8:34 utc | 147 Daily NATO US Brit ISR flights up and down Russia’s northern coast, back and forth across the black Sea, with test run attacks, around and around Kallingrad(sp) mapping it out daily. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 6 2024 9:48 utc | 148 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 2:56 utc | 122 Posted by: Milites | Apr 6 2024 9:55 utc | 149 I saw an interesting sight yesterday. Near a university, an upstairs flat presumably inhabited by students was displaying a Palestinian flag, a Ukrainian flag and a Belarus white-red-white flag (you know, the flag of the Western-backed “opposition”). All very SJW. I wondered whether they were ignorant that the US and Britain back both Israel and Ukraine, or whether they knew and were consciously seeking to deceive others. On pro-Palestinian demos I have occasionally seen people displaying signs with both the Ukrainian and Palestinian flags. At that point I think, “OK. They’re f**kwits.” Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 6 2024 10:08 utc | 150 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2024 23:11 utc | 97 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 6 2024 10:08 utc | 151 149 Posted by: Simon | Apr 6 2024 10:21 utc | 152 Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 6 2024 10:08 utc | 149 Posted by: Milites | Apr 6 2024 10:57 utc | 154 Re Julian trolling Posted by: Josef Schweik | Apr 6 2024 11:27 utc | 155
Posted by: Down South | Apr 6 2024 11:58 utc | 156 Posted by: Milites | Apr 6 2024 9:55 utc | 148 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 11:58 utc | 157 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 11:58 utc | 156 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 6 2024 12:12 utc | 158 Posted by: Milites | Apr 5 2024 21:42 utc | 74 Russia’s objectives-as outlined in its explanations of the Special Military Operation’s scope and purpose- would appear to be very close to having been achieved, All that remains is for Ukraine to agree to refrain from attacks on Russian speakers and the ‘New Russia’ territories, to drop its attempts to join NATO and return to neutrality. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 6 2024 12:20 utc | 160 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Apr 6 2024 11:58 utc | 156 Posted by: Milites | Apr 6 2024 12:24 utc | 161 Posted by: Julian | Apr 6 2024 3:00 utc | 123 Oh boy, as I said, everyone here has NATO sussed out. Once Ukie is rolled up, NATO will run home with their tail tween their legs… Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 12:45 utc | 163 Posted by: Milites | Apr 6 2024 12:24 utc | 160 Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Apr 6 2024 12:58 utc | 164 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 12:45 utc | 162 Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Apr 6 2024 13:06 utc | 165 A few things to remember. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 13:09 utc | 166
Emphasis mine. Yes actually, given they seem to be advised by the likes of you. They are a bunch of strutting peacock know nothings who have become political in action instead of technical. They became yes men and now face the result of not telling the idiot politicians ‘no’. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 6 2024 13:20 utc | 167 Posted by: S | Apr 5 2024 23:46 utc | 102
Posted by: Paco | Apr 6 2024 13:21 utc | 168
The dumbest BS in search of ways to declare NATO the winner, like “Russia killed so many Slavs that they lost even after conquering the whole Ukraine.” Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 6 2024 13:29 utc | 169 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 12:45 utc | 162 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 6 2024 13:49 utc | 170 Milites@160….have we not been smoldering for hundreds of years, nay, thousands? With the odd break in between? Is not the current Euro conflict just a continuation of Feudal States attempting to steal the others resources to support their exceptionalism? Perhaps too big a picture. The past having nothing to do with the future? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 14:08 utc | 171 The Soviet Union was one of the “Allies” was it not? Have you never heard of the Lend Lease program? Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 6 2024 14:08 utc | 172 unimperator@169….due to the Law of Unforseen Consequences I just point out what I see actually taking place, Russia wins hands down. At what cost to a neighboring country. The human carnage. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 14:17 utc | 173 “Lend lease made the Soviet victory faster and less painful than it could have been cutting at least a year off the war. Lend Lease prevented a famine in parts of Russia however without the Red Army the only way an American could set foot on the Normandy beaches is with a German phrasebook and a tourist visa.” Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 12:45 utc | 162 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 14:25 utc | 175 NATO is like 30 countries dude they can bring a massive army if need be. The Third World War is well under way, if they run out of mercs the coalition of the willing is going to enter Ukraine. Posted by: OohCanada | Apr 6 2024 14:32 utc | 176 The war in Ukraine ends when Russia says it does. The new Cold War between Russia/China and the usual “West” will go on. 4 degrees will really mess up the happy status quo. We can’t help ourselves. Posted by: wilsonK | Apr 6 2024 14:47 utc | 177 “NATO is like 30 countries dude they can bring a massive army if need be.” Posted by: Innuendo | Apr 6 2024 14:47 utc | 178 LoveDonbass@174…isn’t the equipment junk? Not much use outside a scrap yard? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 14:49 utc | 179 Doctor Eleven@166…..”the likes of me”….you’re so mean…..I’m a fucking leprechaun and you’re conversing with me…..the likes of me, thanks for getting off your horse to chat. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 14:56 utc | 180 “NATO is like 30 countries dude they can bring a massive army if need be.” Posted by: malenkov | Apr 6 2024 15:00 utc | 181 Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 6 2024 13:29 utc | 168 Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Apr 6 2024 15:03 utc | 182 Julian is wrong and Julian is trolling, but some of the observations of “Julian the Apostate” deserve to be taken seriously if only because they challenge some weak assumptions sometimes posted here. Posted by: MFB | Apr 6 2024 15:07 utc | 183 Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 6 2024 14:08 utc | 171 Posted by: Oliver Krug | Apr 6 2024 15:12 utc | 184 NATO is not dumb. They are incompetent and irrational and they have nuclear weapons, flying over the Cuckoo Nest, that’s very reassuring! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 15:16 utc | 185
Noone in Russia selebrates killing, but check the Ukrainian media and their Westen supporters’ as well as Israel’s, thery really are enjoying every dead person, civilian, kid woman, whatever. Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 6 2024 15:22 utc | 186 Alternatively, what would happen if NATO troops arrived in numbers? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 15:25 utc | 187 LoveDonbass@184…Martyres, death; the Viking in me, the Celt in me, welcomes it. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 6 2024 15:26 utc | 188 Russians just do what they have to do to stop more killings of their own and if those who are supposed to kill more Russians are carrying Ukranin passports – too bad, they have had their fair chance to avoid it but they decided to play Moskal Safary, so FAFO. Posted by: Robert E. Smith | Apr 6 2024 15:29 utc | 189 Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 6 2024 14:08 utc | 171 Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 6 2024 15:34 utc | 190 Posted by: Innuendo | Apr 6 2024 14:47 utc | 177 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 6 2024 15:34 utc | 191
You lamented brothers killing brothers – SMO is well past thet stage already Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 6 2024 15:35 utc | 192 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 15:25 utc | 187 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 6 2024 15:41 utc | 193 You lamented brothers killing brothers – SMO is well past thet stage already Posted by: Robert E. Smith | Apr 6 2024 15:46 utc | 194 About the Krokus terror attack, Medvedev has it for Macron:
https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/476 Posted by: Paco | Apr 6 2024 15:46 utc | 195 🙂JackG | Apr 6 2024 1:22 utc | 112🙃
🙄 Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 6 2024 15:46 utc | 196 https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/4219
Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 6 2024 15:50 utc | 198
For me Buryats and Tatars who are fighting side by side with Great Russians against Nazies are more brothers than Slavs from Azov and Lyut who are fighting on the other side. Posted by: Poslan1 | Apr 6 2024 16:19 utc | 199 Posted by: Oliver Krug | Apr 6 2024 15:12 utc | 183 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2024 16:24 utc | 200 |
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