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April 7, 2024
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2024-101

Last weeks posts on Moon of Alabama:

Middle East:

Ukraine:

Russia:


Other issues:


Gaza:

ISIS:

Baltimore Key Bridge:

Watching the livestream and reading through the status reports I fail to detect any sense of urgency. The main clearing effort for now seems to be in an area that is irrelevant for reopening the main passage to the port. – b.

Empire:

Comments

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 4:28 utc | 100
Then I welcome you to spend a few minutes typing out a hypothetical scenario that you see as an actually possible outcome up to, during, and after all Jews are expelled from Israel.
Since the “crowd” at this bar has become a lot less introspective of late, and way more judgmental, I figure I should offer the disclaimer that in my personal opinion, Zionist Israel could be wiped off the map and all Ashkenazi European Zionists expelled back to Europe and New York/New Jersey, but I just don’t see it happening in any real-world scenario.
Change my mind?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 4:35 utc | 101

Also @LoveDonbass and others, I found this today and it really hit home. Very similar to conversations I’ve had with various Russia/Putin haters in my own life.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2024/04/07/john-varoli-our-warped-reality-losing-friends-to-disinformation/
Interesting exchange, and very much in line with many of our shared experiences here at MoA since 2014, or alternatively, 2022, I’m sure.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 4:37 utc | 102

For whatever reason I am watching the spread between the Shanghai and London market gold prices. In the last few months I have been watching the range between the two being under $30 and over $75 with the Shanghai price always higher.
Below is reporting of the London open/close prices last Friday and the opening price in Shanghai on Monday.
LBMA London
5 Apr 2024
AM USD 2,288.45
PM USD 2,298.55
Shanghai
8 Apr 2024
AM USD 2,372.26
I understand that the London/COMEX markets are very different from the Shanghai market including size but when, at the current dollar price, there is not enough gold in existence to support the US dollar price, something has to move/break.
I am of the belief that gold in under priced in relation to US dollars and the upward adjustment under way will/has created a crisis in the global financial markets. You can take it to the bank that the private finance folk will crash the global system before the China/Russia axis has all their ducks in a row which will possibly compromise the axis progress and positions…..another significant focus of the civilization war that is/will be very much global.
I see the global financial crash coming soon…by August or before is my guess

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 5:02 utc | 103

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 3:31 utc | 98
Got to say I agree with you. A lot of hypocrites around. And if some posts are just flat out crazy, ignorant or dumb, they have to be called out. If you can’t take the criticism don’t post crap.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 8 2024 5:23 utc | 104

Love makes some good points, as usual, but come on! We know Bevin around here. He’s no Zionist apologist.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 20:46 utc | 67
Just a while ago bevin was throwing one of his many tantrums, saying that it’s racist to even suggest the possibility that the israelis shot their own people on Oct 7th, or that they could have known ahead of time that Hamas was planning an attack.
That’s not just apologism, but incredibly stupid and arrogant apologism. Hasbara. Not without reason do people keep asking him if he’s a jew.

Posted by: Michael A | Apr 8 2024 5:36 utc | 105

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 8 2024 5:23 utc | 104
Alcohol.
Posted by: Michael A | Apr 8 2024 5:36 utc | 105
Accusing someone of calling names – or worse – hasbara, requires proof. Please lay out your case. And also please take note that myself and librul are both totally in open disagreement with bevin over the real circumstances surrounding October 7 and none of us have resorted to insults or lies in making our respective cases.
So whatcha got?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 5:38 utc | 106

Not without reason do people keep asking him if he’s a jew.
Posted by: Michael A | Apr 8 2024 5:36 utc | 105
You are aware that there’s a large – majority even – set of diaspora Jews – that are not Zionists, correct?
Where I might be convinced to take your (until proven otherwise, quite bigoted) side, is that yes – American, Canadian, and European Jews are not doing enough to tamp down or eliminate the genocidal maniacs that they and their families and connections have actual influence over, regardless of the case that Biden could call it off with a single phone call – were he not a senile Ziojihadist himself.
But what fuckin’ difference does it make if bevin is Jewish by birth, practice or whatever? Tie it to actual statements and make your case. Again: I have my own differing with him on topics dating back a few years. But he’s right on the anticommunist bullshit that pervades “mainstream” (including MoA) discussion in general, and he’s a genuine humanitarian from my reading.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 5:43 utc | 107

To those that would report China economy as having problems I will provide this quote from a Xinhuanet posting

BEIJING, April 8 (Xinhua) — China has leveraged a variety of policies to offset downward economic pressure and address structural challenges, securing a robust start of this year with accelerated growth in retail sales, investment, and industrial output.
China’s retail sales of consumer goods rose by 5.5 percent year on year in the first two months of 2024, picking up from an increase of 3.5 percent in the same period of 2023.
Fixed-asset investment also saw a notable uptick, growing by 4.2 percent year on year, quickening from the 3 percent increase in 2023. Furthermore, value-added industrial output rose 7 percent year on year during the January-February period, accelerating from the rise of 6.8 percent registered in December 2023.

Countries hitched to China’s wagon will survive the coming economic crash.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 5:48 utc | 108

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 8 2024 2:17 utc | 94
You’re suggesting the Palestinians nicely forgive the israelis and hope that the israelis in return don’t genocide them after a few generations? What an excellent plan. Always works with jews. Turn the other cheek and let them get back to work.
Let’s forgive epstein and hope that in a few generations there’s no more child trafficking and adrenochrome. Let’s forgive soros and hope that in a few generations there’s no more fake lgbt and European population replacement. Let’s forgive burla and hope that they’ll nicely stop the kill shots after a few generations. Let’s forgive schwab, let his little mutant minions stay in power, and hope that after a few generations the talk of lockdowns and “smart city” concentration camps will end and they’ll all smile and hug us.
After all, anything else would be antisemitic. Nothing these people do is ever connected to race (because they consider all of us as precious as themselves). Nor is anything these people do ever planned or coordinated, because, shudder, it’s a ‘conspiracy theory’ that they would ever plan or coordinate anything. And that was debunked in the 12th century, like some other poster pointed out some days ago.

Posted by: Michael A | Apr 8 2024 5:50 utc | 109

Xinhuanet finally has a posting up about the Yellen visit around the meeting between Yellen and Premier Li Qiang on Sunday.
the Yellen quote

Yellen said that with the joint efforts of both sides, the U.S.-China relationship has become more stable. As the world’s two largest economies, the United States and China should manage their bilateral economic relationship responsibly.
She said the United States appreciates the progress made in U.S.-China economic dialogue and cooperation, does not seek “decoupling” from China, and stands ready to work with China to implement the important consensus reached by the two presidents in San Francisco, communicate candidly, avoid misunderstandings, deepen exchanges and cooperation, properly manage differences, jointly cope with pressing global challenges and promote the steady development of bilateral relations.

Lots of pretty words but not much meat for chewing on. We will have to wait for further developments/clarity of the conversations occurring.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 5:58 utc | 110

Posted by: Michael A | Apr 8 2024 5:50 utc | 109
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I presume that refinejenna’s perspective is informed by the example of the Prophet Alahi Salam.
Muslims don’t see this as a conflict that can be ended absolutely. The Day of Judgment will handle all of this stuff. Who did wrong, who did right, etc. If one is secular, then that may sound crazy. Nonetheless, it is what millions and millions of Muslims in the Middle East believe and orient their lives around.
There will always be sin. It is intrinsic to why (according to Islam) that we’re here.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 6:01 utc | 111

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 4:35 utc | 101
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I like you. I am not going to hypothesize.
I am simply saying that you’re a human like me, and I suspect that we’re both lacking in the prescience department.
I never saw COVID coming. Millions of supposedly very smart people never saw the collapse of the USSR a year before it happened. Only a handful and Nassim Taleb saw the 2008 crash.
One of the characteristics of a Black Swan event is that no one sees it coming, and then after the fact, the signs are obvious. It’s not just the unexpected. It’s the obvious occurring unexpectedly, exploiting blind spots in our perception and conditioning.
I truly believe all things are possible because I do not know with absolute confidence otherwise.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 6:06 utc | 112

https://www.greanvillepost.com/2024/04/07/john-varoli-our-warped-reality-losing-friends-to-disinformation/
Interesting exchange, and very much in line with many of our shared experiences here at MoA since 2014, or alternatively, 2022, I’m sure.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 4:37 utc | 102
Thank you for sharing that Tom. I can related to it …. I have seen this dialogue being repeated again and again and everywhere. It’s really sad. Its still happening. And quite scary the gulf between these two perspectives (beliefs / framings ) and how quickly and easily supposedly two friends with similar values quickly are at each others throats.
I hate that more than anything I think. It’s happened to me before 20 years ago over a parting of the ways, and it was painful, hard to make sense of. Suddenly I no longer knew these people anymore, and could no longer trust them or anything they said. Like I said, it’s scary, and it comes suddenly and so unexpectedly.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 8 2024 8:02 utc | 113

“Hamas launched the raid/escape to capture some prisoners to use in negotiations, being prepared to fight IDF along the way.” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 21:20 utc | 73
OK, but that does not exclude what Love Donbass wrote @ Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53.
And @ Apr 7 2024 19:18 utc | 60 or anyone questioning Hamas’ strategy –
I have not seen much response to Love Donbass’ question @ LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53
“What is your strategy to achieve a sovereign Palestine for your children’s safety and prosperity?”
Perhaps I also should have bolded this part of Love’s post ”Palestinians were already dying (slowly and miserably)… “ that Chas noted @ Apr 7 2024 20:58 utc | 68.
Anyone here know better than Hamas?
Norman Finklestein has explained the ramifications of what Nat Turner and John Brown did prior to the US Civil War. I think he’s right. “John Brown’s body lies a-moldering in the grave.” became the Union soldiers’ marching song just a year or so after JB was executed, “But his soul goes marching on!”

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 8 2024 8:04 utc | 114

to LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 4:28 utc | 100 ………. (Tom wishes) Zionist Israel could be wiped off the map and all Ashkenazi European Zionists expelled back to Europe and New York/New Jersey, but I just don’t see it happening in any real-world scenario. Change my mind?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 4:35 utc | 101
I too hope such a scenario could unfold …. they deserve nothing less than that for what they have done since the 1920s …. and the crimes since 1948 … but how could it be done, how would such a thing unfold ‘humanely’?
By the same token how much I wish an allied military coalition of the ROW led by russia and china would invade the USA and bring Washington to it’s knees in complete unconditional surrender. I cannot imagine how the people of the US could possibly be saved from an even worse perdition/fate. But russia/china are not up for it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 8 2024 8:10 utc | 115

“Just a while ago bevin was throwing one of his many tantrums, saying that it’s racist to even suggest the possibility that the Israelis shot their own people on Oct 7th, or that they could have known ahead of time that Hamas was planning an attack.
That’s not just apologism, but incredibly stupid and arrogant apologism. Hasbara. Not without reason do people keep asking him if he’s a Jew.”
Posted by: Michael A | Apr 8 2024 5:36 utc | 105
I don’t see how anyone could possibly deny Bevin is not an apologist for the Israeli Jews.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 9:53 utc | 116

“LBMA London
5 Apr 2024
AM USD 2,288.45
PM USD 2,298.55
Shanghai
8 Apr 2024
AM USD 2,372.26
“I see the global financial crash coming soon…by August or before is my guess”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 5:02 utc | 103
What you are witnessing is gold bullion moving from the West to the East.
But I don’t think on a day to day basis the spread shouldn’t be $30 or more between London and Shanghai Au prices or there would be arbitrage trade narrowing the spread-ie in your example sell (short) 1,000 ounces of Gold in Shanghai for $2,372 and then buy 1,000 ounces for $2,298 in London at the same time
One would make $74,000 with absolutely no risk. All traders with an IQ over 16 would do it all day long and eventually the spread would be zero between the Shanghai and London Au prices or close to it.
So must be a mechanism or regulation that I don’t understand.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 10:04 utc | 117

“Canuck: you’re right, he’s an apologist. I notice it constantly. He’s sly and circumspect about it, but it’s always there.”
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 8 2024 1:34 utc | 90
Yes, it is quite obvious that bevin is an apologist; and, you are right he’s quite clever at disguising his sentiment.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 10:08 utc | 118

I thought I had made clear @ 94 that the Palestinians themselves would have to decide who they will include in their new state, and whether they would be prepared to accept having Israeli Jews living in their state or not.
If they decide to eject all Jews, that is their choice, but they have to realise that such ejection will come with consequences that could be serious, even devastating for them. Especially if there were, and still are, others supporting the Zionist state who themselves are not Jewish and who were using the Israelis and even those in the wider Jewish community (who themselves thought they were the puppet masters), as proxies in a war against the Arabs and other Middle Eastern peoples to seize their lands and resources.
Likewise, if the Palestinians allow the Israeli Jews to continue living among them, there will be consequences arising from that decision and those would include an ongoing project involving perhaps (among other things) establishing a truth and reconciliation system, a network of legal courts and institutions to conduct war crimes trials and determine punishments where necessary, and other networks involving education, media and social media to develop and teach sets and systems of values, ideologies and narratives consistent with what the new state will aim for, or represent.
Regardless of what the Palestinians do, they are going to have an uphill battle anyway dealing not just with the issue of whether to allow Jews to live in their state or not, but also with their own traumas arising from nearly 80 years of persecution and abuse from Israel, backed by the West.
The very least the new Palestinian state can do, in my opinion, would be to show that after all the Palestinians have been through, it can demonstrate mercy and compassion by allowing freedom of religion. The worst thing that it could do is show that it is no better than the state that preceded it.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 8 2024 11:07 utc | 119

Total solar eclipse day. Canada’s Niagara Fall region has been preparing a year for it.
From the Niagara Police: (kindly note the map, please)
https://www.niagarapolice.ca/en/news/solar-eclipse-niagara-road-closures-niagara-falls-and-fort-erie.aspx
From the Daily Mail
“I travelled to the idyllic Greek Islands for my birthday and didn’t expect the chaotic reality I was faced with: ‘Nobody tells you!’ [FFS]
Also – “It’s a total eclipse of the DARK! Eager eclipse hunters flock to viewing parties at stargazing hotspots (despite cloud and thunderstorms)” which is followed by “Nuclear war so devastating survivors will envy the dead: as declassified documents reveal reality of Armageddon, how one attack could end the world”
And there you have it.
So it was Tartan Day, and US ambassador to the UK, Jane D. Hartley posted a little video, noting that Tartan Day will be celebrated throughout the US, as part of all those threads binding Scotland to the USA, or something or other.
Which led me to wonder what CBC’s the National’s The Moment would be on Sunday night. It’s about this famous massive grizzly bear, “The Boss”, coming out of hibernation. I thought for sure this is a “Putin so scary” bit, but I think it’s actually referring to some kind of armament. That’s so scary. And probably controlled by Putin.
https://youtu.be/Ck1vOb_Pq4s

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 8 2024 11:09 utc | 120

St. John’s Newfoundland webcam
https://ntvplus.ca/st-johns-sky-cam/
Snow, overcast. Those are coast guard ships, right? They weren’t there, I thought, the last time I looked, a couple days ago.
Canadian soldier, deployed to Jordan, missing, presumed dead in Swiss avalanche, while on leave.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-soldier-missing-presumed-dead-in-swiss-avalanche-armed-forces-1.6837071
See, the ugly thing is, if this was an American soldier I’d think the US was hiding something, like that the soldier actually died in some covert combat mission. I don’t know. “Swiss avalanche” — neutrality?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 8 2024 11:43 utc | 121

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 8 2024 8:04 utc | 114
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Thank you for referencing my question. We all (except the Israeli fans) sympathize and feel compassion for the Gazans. It might behoove us to consider what it will take to get them to their goals of freedom, independence, and prosperity.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 12:46 utc | 122

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 8 2024 8:10 utc | 115
Thank you for your posts on this subject, Lavrov’s Dog. I have been reading Buber’s On Zion: the History of an Idea. (It is available online, but I will get a copy for myself soon.) Here is an extract from an early chapter – please take note of the bolded section:

Of all the prophets of Israel, Isaiah is the only one whose vision and prophecy focused on the Temple of Solomon. It was in the Temple that he hadbeen consecrated a prophet and, in vision, he had seen the earthly sanctuary become transformed into the heavenly. From that hour he knew that this place was chosen to become the centre of the world of God, of God’s all embracing Kingdom. But it has not yet become that which it has been chosen to become, because the people of Israel that is to build this centre by subjecting the whole of its life to the rule of God, desecrates the sanctuary in which it treads. (Is. l,12)

I have to go out, but I will be back.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 8 2024 13:56 utc | 123

The gold spreads between Shanghai and London are another hint of De-Dollarization.
Note – it’s becoming a truism that U.S. interest rates will not decline much. That’s also a tell regarding De-Dollarization

Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2024 14:10 utc | 124

Posted by: pxx | Apr 8 2024 0:40 utc | 87
@58 John brewster
re Malcom Kyeyune – Yeah. I forgot that’s the same person who sh#tposts on Twitter about the Houthis today, and does podcasts with Philip Pilkington
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As I said, the man makes interesting arguments. Its important not to stop listening to what your opponents are saying. They are trying to influence people. If you ignore their influencing, you disarm yourself when they come up with a compelling argument. (Not that many people have time or are capable of following well-reasoned arguments, but still…)
And, thank you for the reference to Pilkington. I was unaware of him.Yet another intelligent conservative making seemingly rational sounding arguments in support of laissez fairy tale economics. While his take that climate change is manageable (he does acknowledge its happening, so he’s not a total troglodyte.) is debatable, what is more devastating is his destruction of the whole Green New Deal nonsense.
There are many who recognize the Green New Deal as nothing more than a gravy train for corporate interests, and a hijacking of genuine grassroots green activities. There is a website, The Wrong Kind of Green, which has been onto this racket for years. It was AOC’s pushing the GND that immediately made me suspicious of her, even before she was elected. She is part of the phony left – owned by corporations and behaving in ways to discredit the genuine left.
So, whacha gonna do? Sometimes conservatives make sense. In fact the whole political scene has been set up so that the Dems are called “the left” and do really bad things, while the GOP is making solid arguments about border security, the whole woke psyop, the dangers of CBDCs, and the hijacking of our health system by Bill Gates and all the creeps he funds.
The left has been erased from politics in the US. It is nothing but a swear word – commie. The only people allowed a public platform are various degrees of rightwing ideologues. So, again, whacha gonna do? I choose to listen to my opponents.

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 8 2024 14:33 utc | 125

Posted by: pxx | Apr 8 2024 0:40 utc | 87
@58 John brewster
re Malcom Kyeyune – Yeah. I forgot that’s the same person who sh#tposts on Twitter about the Houthis today, and does podcasts with Philip Pilkington
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As I said, the man makes interesting arguments. Its important not to stop listening to what your opponents are saying. They are trying to influence people. If you ignore their influencing, you disarm yourself when they come up with a compelling argument. (Not that many people have time or are capable of following well-reasoned arguments, but still…)
And, thank you for the reference to Pilkington. I was unaware of him.Yet another intelligent conservative making seemingly rational sounding arguments in support of laissez fairy tale economics. While his take that climate change is manageable (he does acknowledge its happening, so he’s not a total troglodyte.) is debatable, what is more devastating is his destruction of the whole Green New Deal nonsense.
There are many who recognize the Green New Deal as nothing more than a gravy train for corporate interests, and a hijacking of genuine grassroots green activities. There is a website, The Wrong Kind of Green, which has been onto this racket for years. It was AOC’s pushing the GND that immediately made me suspicious of her, even before she was elected. She is part of the phony left – owned by corporations and behaving in ways to discredit the genuine left.
So, whacha gonna do? Sometimes conservatives make sense. In fact the whole political scene has been set up so that the Dems are called “the left” and do really bad things, while the GOP is making solid arguments about border security, the whole woke psyop, the dangers of CBDCs, and the hijacking of our health system by Bill Gates and all the creeps he funds.
The left has been erased from politics in the US. It is nothing but a swear word – commie. The only people allowed a public platform are various degrees of rightwing ideologues. So, again, whacha gonna do? I choose to listen to my opponents.

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 8 2024 14:33 utc | 126

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:57 utc | 43
Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36
And it’s not just about the Palestinians or land. What about all of the Iranians, Syrians, and Lebanese that the Zionists have killed, and the settlers have support if not directly, then tacitly?
It doesn’t end until Israel is gone and the earth is salted. Then individual Jews can apply to the Palestinian people to immigrate. Like Ukraine needs to ban Nazism, Palestine will need to ban Zionism and block the entrance of known Zionists at all ports of entry.
That’s if we’re serious about the Palestinian people and not emoting or virtue signaling.

Do you have any vision of or suggestions about how such a thing as a free and clear Palestinian State with the authority to declare what happens with the Jews?
Seems to me there are moral judgments that can be made, or ideal scenarios suggested, but how any such things can play out in the ‘real world’ is something else.
From my POV, the current mess was created by the UN (heavily manipulated by Jews in US, Britain and France). Jews were given permission to form their own ethno-nationalist eschatological State; Palestinians remained Stateless. The territorial distribution was dysfunctional, ergo the whole thing was a deliberately engendered disaster by design from the get-go. So I would suggest, practically speaking, that the UN rescind ALL its resolutions regarding Israel since the beginning and that the entire mess be reconfigured whilst international forces under a UN mandate enforce a cease fire. (Ideally, the UN should then be out of the picture viz future deliberations.)
This whole thing boils down to bad leadership structures, as all such long-standing issues like this always do. Meanwhile, the only positive is that Israel and the US are losing moral support world wide, though the cost in Palestinian lives is of course an unacceptable price for this. Can the world stop it? It seems not, although recent developments with Israeli pull-out from Rafah may augur well. Too soon to say; they might be getting out prior to bombing it all to bits.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 8 2024 14:43 utc | 127

In response to

So must be a mechanism or regulation that I don’t understand.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 10:04 utc | 117

Below is a link you can go to and read more about the markets at
https://www.bullionstar.com/charts/gold-price-today
The arbitrage you are talking about is being done, I suspect, by very big players that can take possession from a COMEX deal and take the gold to China to sell at the increased price there.
That is why eventually the situation will crisis and resolve….or not

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 15:15 utc | 128

“Below is a link you can go to and read more about the markets at
https://www.bullionstar.com/charts/gold-price-today
The arbitrage you are talking about is being done, I suspect, by very big players that can take possession from a COMEX deal and take the gold to China to sell at the increased price there.
That is why eventually the situation will crisis and resolve….or not”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 15:15 utc | 127
I was thinking about it-one would be unable to do it digitally/same day/same contract/multiple times at 3.75% profit per trade otherwise big capital would have narrowed the spread considerably so the exchanges probably don’t allow digital crossing in from the exchanges.
So one would, like you say, have take delivery in London and then deliver to Shanghai so that’s risk right there and so the spread.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 15:31 utc | 129

“Accusing someone of calling names – or worse – hasbara, requires proof. ..”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Non Gentleman Collins | Apr 8 2024 5:38 utc | 106
You called me a ‘racist’ with no proof.
Not only are you not a Gentleman, you are also a hypocrite; and, I suspect , more deleterious characteristics also dwell within you. .

Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 15:43 utc | 130

Update to my @ 120
Now the Daily Mail has replaced the news story after the “eclipse of the DARK” one, from “nuclear Armageddon” to “Residents of ‘anchor out’ community on San Francisco Bay are set to be evicted.” Well. That sounds better, if any of it means anything.
Ray McGovern posted on April 7 about a false flag. The thing is I don’t know how to translate McGovern’s posts. But it’s there, for those who may understand it better.
Here’s a post from Mike Mihajlovic on war against Yugoslavia.
https://x.com/MihajlovicMike/status/1776638989325255162

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 8 2024 16:00 utc | 131

Always, always an Israeli Zionist connection to these pedo blackmail rings.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 22:30 utc | 77
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Diddy’s files and tapes locked down tight by Intelligence. Only limited hangout dribs and drabs will now be forthcoming…

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 8 2024 16:07 utc | 132

Diddy’s files and tapes locked down tight by Intelligence
Well-assorted collections of dirty laundry are tempting swag for all criminal entrepreneurs intelligence agencies. Case in point: when the CIA brazenly snatched the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit files as the GDR was coming down.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 16:32 utc | 133

I found this bit of reasoning by Global Times important to consider:
“Just a couple of days ago, US Trade Representative Katherine Tai reminded Europe in Brussels, proclaiming the need to jointly address the “challenges” posed by China’s economic model to the US and Europe economic system. This is a typical rhetoric from Washington, hypocritically referring to Europe as its ally while shaping China as their common adversary, ultimately aiming to make Europe a stepping stone in its strategy toward China. Has Washington ever truly treated Europe as its ally? Previously, there was the trade war initiated by the Donald Trump administration against Europe, and now there’s the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. Has Europe not suffered enough from the US?” [My Emphasis]
Interesting timing of visits to China by Yellen, now Lavrov, to be followed by Blinken. The newest rhetoric to be employed in the geoeconomic war with China is “overcapacity” which IMO is a hoot. This article provides a good overview.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2024 17:08 utc | 134

Should the jews in Palestine be evicted after a victory of the resistance in a hypothetical future? bevin said no, and has generated some controversy about this here. I’m with him, and here’s my argument:
While it is common and somewhat useful to abstract from history’s actors, like f.i. Stalin, and speak about a political entity instead (the Soviet Union; the Brits, Aztecs etc), in truth all action is done by men. They may rely in their decision-making on ideologies, which is why the concept is important. But still, a historical stratum of presently alive people is who make things happen.
So if we only say the Palestinians vs. the settlers, we forego that the grandchildren of the first settlers have been born into this terrible mess, and it was not by their own choosing. The same as for the Palestinians, of course. This is one reason that makes this particular conflict so intractable.
But still there is a history to it. The maltreatment by force has started at some point, and the wound is still bleeding. Yet, if we were to go back to, say, 1917 and the Balfour Declaration, we’d miss out on the people who are presently stricken into the quagmire. There is no time machine available for us to make the mess undone.
So I think it’s wise, even Solomonic, to ask everyone to accept these points:
* – Illegal attempts of occupation must be ceased, and the land declared Palestinian, and be returned
* – Conflict must end
* – A new statehood on the land must be established, and it should give both jews and Palestinians a chance to live together in Palestine, IF they agree to do so in friendship, peace, respect and harmony.
* – If the Palestinians regain their country by force, it will be up to them of course; but if they don’t reach out their hand to the present day Israelis to build a future state and community together, they will be resorting to a logic of might-makes-right.
* – If any jews are not willing to accept the new conditions, they must leave. The international community will help them to put up and start a new life at some other place that welcomes them. Hopefully someone will.
There will be much mistrust and enmity at first, but I believe this can be overcome by well-meaning and serious people on both sides, and a good future be built. The way forward to this point, however, is not up to me to point out.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 17:16 utc | 135

* – A new statehood on the land must be established, and it should give both jews and Palestinians a chance to live together in Palestine, IF they agree to do so in friendship, peace, respect and harmony.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 17:16 utc | 135
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If Israel exists in some form then it needs to mirror the policies of immigration to Palestine that you have proposed.
Palestine shouldn’t have to take on Jews if Jews won’t take on Palestinians. And Israel has to take on every Jew, even the black ones.
Seems fair, after all, an “eye for an eye” is a Jewish concept. It is a reasonable turnabout.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 17:33 utc | 136

It’s likely that many missed this important article, “Russia Advances Space Exploration With Rosatom’s Plasma Rocket Engine”. I tried to find more, but few are talking.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2024 18:44 utc | 137

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 17:16 utc | 135
There will be much mistrust and enmity at first, but I believe this can be overcome by well-meaning and serious people on both sides, and a good future be built. The way forward to this point, however, is not up to me to point out.

Your reasonable suggestions all rest on the foundation of finding ‘well-meaning and serious people on both sides’. Unfortunately, at least on the Israeli side, that ship sailed long ago.
The UN violated its own charter and committed a crime by caving to Jewish geopolitical influence peddling and allowing Jews to go ahead with their own State in Palestine despite the Palestinians and other regional States having voted against. An unforgivable error and crime.
First, this crime must be acknowledged before it can be remedied. It was enabled by Authority in the region and the world which was then and still today is muddled. Only once this over-arching problem is addressed via lawful Authority, moreover with enforcement capabilities, can viable solutions can be found. Until then, all such discussions about who gets to live where whenever are premature.
Jews were given unlawful free rein in Palestine and the result is gross multi-generational injustice; therefore, their UN-granted license to dictate what happens on the ground needs to be taken away. Will this happen? Probably not. But nor will your reasonable solutions because those favouring genocide remain in charge.
All the Palestinians unlawfully dispossessed by the United Nations of their rights, property, society, futures and lives can do is protest, resist and be killed. That’s the deal the world community, especially including Russia, the US and China, has forced upon them by their caving to Jewish geopolitical influence peddlers.
It’s truly disgraceful and disheartening.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 8 2024 19:19 utc | 138

Trumpistas having fun with the eclipse (they generally DO have much more fun…)
https://rumble.com/v4o7ibh-the-trump-eclipse-ad.html?mref=1t8q76&mrefc=2

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 8 2024 19:27 utc | 139

not much else out there Karl
I found this link
“The creation of a plasma rocket engine with a power of several hundred kilowatts will allow our country to achieve technological leadership in this field and reach a new level in space conquest, perform interplanetary flights, and also regularly exchange cargo between Earth and the Moon,” Rosatom stated.
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2024/04/08/keshe-based-tech-russia-advances-space-exploration-with-rosatoms-fusion-plasma-rocket-engine/
https://twitter.com/i/status/1776993756333682864

Posted by: ld | Apr 8 2024 20:46 utc | 140

Your reasonable suggestions all rest on the foundation of finding ‘well-meaning and serious people on both sides’. Unfortunately, at least on the Israeli side, that ship sailed long ago, wrote the scorpion. —
Yes, that’s why I said I can’t the way ahead is spirituality, onto the realization that The One [τὸ ἕν] is not us, neither present nor presently attainable (and perhaps forever off limes); though The Many is/are.
I’m surprised myself how reasonable the suggestion turned out. But it’s owing to scorpion’s I Jing cast on the matter a while back (that suggested a time of reconciliation before peace can be achieved) and bevin’s lucid humanism at least as much as my knack for overarching thought. Of course, MoA’s general sincerety provides the necessary background for all of this. It’s us who did it.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 21:42 utc | 141

Refinnejenna | Apr 8 2024 11:07 utc | 119
*** The very least the new Palestinian state can do, in my opinion, would be to show that after all the Palestinians have been through, it can demonstrate mercy and compassion by allowing freedom of religion. The worst thing that it could do is show that it is no better than the state that preceded it.***
Well of course — who could possibly feel ill at ease sharing a country with a cult of rabidly sectarian racially obsessive exclusivists extremely proud of their self-alleged long history of periodically committing genocide against anyone else in their vicinity.
While in between massacres, forever conspiring …. and proud of that as well.

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 8 2024 22:06 utc | 142

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 21:42 utc | 141
I’ll check that Yi cast again (next post), but the first step is an imposed cease fire. That can come before genuine (mutually desired) peace between the parties. To impose a cease fire there must be some sort of authority with enforcement capability, so a power above the warring populations.
A good step today in the UN: a motion to recognize Palestine as a UN Member State. But Palestine is not a legally constituted State because the UN made it into a non-state long ago.
What an unholy mess. Naturally, I appreciate your good intentions and reasonable approach; but the Zionist entity is a predator with rabies as evidenced by its predilection for atrocity, mendacity and slaughter of young innocents. There is no easy solution to this. Unfortunately the most likely outcome is that nothing is done and more Palestinians keep getting killed and displaced.
Meanwhile, Peter Myers just updated us with this: https://richardgage911.substack.com/p/new-documentary-on-gaza-october-7. Am personally not interested in Oct 7th but I know several barflies here are; no idea as to quality of the material.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 8 2024 23:20 utc | 143

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 8 2024 22:06 utc | 142
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Tolerance, protection, and forgiveness for Jews is a Muslim thing.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 23:29 utc | 144

@persiflo: thxs for reminding me of this Cast. Interesting one…
IMAGE
Holy Temple on the Mount
Shared heritage and progress
JUDGMENT
Both HEAVEN and EARTH require working through powerfully toxic obstacles
Stormy weather can lead to cleansing calm
A settlement can gradually be achieved
Ancient heritage is mutual Treasure with potential for Great Wealth
Changing Leadership making both peoples equal
Neither side interfering with the other, completely abandoning the old ways
Then after three years birth a new nation into being.
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Comments
This Reading ending seems to indicate how to begin to move forward. Some commentary on the Judgement phrases:
#53: Gradual Progress is possible – emphasis on gradual. The image is a tree on a mountain, or a ‘Temple on the Mount’. Ancient shared spiritual heritage: today’s Palestinians are mainly the descendants of the original Jews.
‘Changing Leadership making both sides equal’: Could be change at the global/supervisory/UN level; also could mean UN recognizing Palestine as a State with equal rights and standing as Israel which was prematurely and unlawfully so recognized.
‘Neither side interfering with the other, completely abandoning the old ways’: this relates to Hexagram 52 which is Stopping or Non-Action (& meditation/peace). The lower and upper trigram are the same, both not moving. Hence both sides need to be separated; all processes between them should stop; no negotiations; no deals; no solutions. Just stop. So that’s why I advocate enforced ceasefire.
‘After three years’: that’s how long it takes to cleanse the toxins indicated in the Heaven-Earth-Man part of the Reading (Hex #18 – Curing).
This echoes #53’s Gradual Progress whose Changing Line 5 states: White birds to Mount; after three years a child (which could be a new One-State nation with Israelis and Palestinians having equal rights just as both trigrams in #52 Keeping Still are the same).
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Interesting Cast. Clearly many problems in the mix but underneath there could be a profoundly positive resolution. But things need to stop. Completely. For three years. And I think the global leadership relative to Palestine needs to change.
Text of reading available at: https://baronbrasdor.art/2023/10/14/yi-achieving-peace-in-israel-palestine-53-5-52-64/

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 8 2024 23:44 utc | 145

* – A new statehood on the land must be established, and it should give both jews and Palestinians a chance to live together in Palestine, IF they agree to do so in friendship, peace, respect and harmony.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2024 17:16 utc | 135
This was Isaiah’s vision as explained by Martin Buber in the book I have been reading online. He ends the chapter hoping for a repentant and re-energized Israel accomplishing it, yet to my mind what we see in the forbearance that Iran evidences is exactly what aids such hopes. War isn’t the answer, and Islam is winning respect that counts far more than weapons – they enter Isaiah’s vision and embody it.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 9 2024 1:14 utc | 146

Norman Finklestein has explained the ramifications of what Nat Turner and John Brown did prior to the US Civil War. I think he’s right. “John Brown’s body lies a-moldering in the grave.” became the Union soldiers’ marching song just a year or so after JB was executed, “But his soul goes marching on!”
Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 8 2024 8:04 utc | 114
Maybe in black companies. I highly doubt the white units were marching to that. Most of the references are to black units being led by a white officer or freed slaves after the war.
The US military had segregated units through the Korean War era. I doubt your average white infantryman had any love for brown or turner, at best maybe indifference.
You would be quite shocked at some of the cadence calls used in units that were still all white in the early 90’s.
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If in the future the Pals are able to control the territory of Gaza and Israel, they would be bleeding idiots to allow any Jews to remain.
Imagine, trying to put together a new nation state with a built in fifth column that will get UNLIMITED financial, material and diplomatic support.
It would be suicidal altruism.
If they’re dumb enough to fall for that trap after all that has happened then they will be in the same position in a few short years.
What is the Jewish state’s method of waging war?
Deception, just ask the mossad.

Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 9 2024 1:32 utc | 147

Archetypex | Apr 9 2024 1:32 utc | 147
The Civil war was a different time. Among Union supporters there was a very radical strand of anti-slavery politics. It was exemplified by the very popular Thaddeus Stevens in the House but there were many politicians, such as Pig Iron Kelley who saw the campaign against slavery and the campaign for protectionist tariffs (and higher wages) as part of the same struggle. Which it was.
By the sixties after a century of Jim Crow and creeping racism that radicalism had died out, no doubt.
Hamlin Garland’s memories of his soldier farmer father’s return from the war stick in my mind. Remember that the Confederacy was represented by wealthy planters, arrogant competitors for the land in the west, who wanted to turn Kansas into a slave zone and who fought every attempt to introduce the homesteading laws. And who fought for Free Trade and the economic liberalism that had reduced Englishmen to wage slavery punctuated by periods of famine.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 9 2024 1:47 utc | 148

I don’t see how anyone could possibly deny Bevin is not an apologist for the Israeli Jews. (sic)
Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 9:53 utc | 116
It is ludicrous to suggest, as the Hasbara crowd (and you) do, that it is impossible to be sincerely critical of Israel without being anti-semitic.
It is you and your fellow fascists who agree with the Netanyahu position that to be opposed to Israel is to be anti-semitic- you differ only in that you insist that all of us who criticise Zionism should agree with your racist attacks on Jews.
We won’t and we socialists and communists have been fighting Zionism since it first reared its ugly head. Which was at roughly the same time that your political ancestors, the fascist defenders of capitalism, emerged.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 9 2024 2:02 utc | 149

The ‘science’ of CO2 and cow farts is not holding up…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-09/data-can-t-explain-off-the-charts-heat/103649190

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 2:29 utc | 150

@ Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 2:29 utc | 150 with the model of cow farts….
Back in college 50+ years ago I studied the newly growing world of computer modeling and could tell at that time how limited the models were and forever would be because of the mechanistic limitations of them
We don’t know enough to ask the right questions to build a useful model and then there is human hubris of its own capabilities.
Human hubris being what it is I expect the marketing folks are thinking up ways to make tanning the new in thing to get out in front of the ecological train.
Why be prudent when you can be hubristic?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 3:14 utc | 151

psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 3:14 utc | 151
I had left it somewhat open until I actually researched the ideology of of climate change. The glaring omission was H2O gas – water vapour. No data. The ‘man made climate change’ we see in the west is nothing more than part of the woke ideology. Extremist ideology. The face of it that idiot child that was trotted around the western world.
The joys of living within an empire, a civilization disintegration from within. I’m not religious but this comes to mind – “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 3:35 utc | 152

“Canuck: you’re right, he’s an apologist. I notice it constantly. He’s sly and circumspect about it, but it’s always there.”
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 8 2024 1:34 utc | 90
Yes, it is quite obvious that bevin is an apologist; and, you are right he’s quite clever at disguising his sentiment.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 8 2024 10:08 utc | 118
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Says who ?
The bar’s resident white coloniser apologist,..
From the horse mouth

No Tom milites is describing reality , you and the Lefties are living the Fantasy.
Genghis Khan was probably the cruelest leader of all-maybe he was misnamed in History and his real name is John Smith?
What the Japanese did to American POWs during WW2 or their raping of the Korean women in the 1930’s-Japnaese are they Western?
How about the Aztecs in the 1400’s scacrifcing 80,000 people to Quetzalcoatl ? Are they Western.
Pol Pot killed millions maybe his name is Steve Johnson – the Righties changed the name secretly.
Come on!!!!!
Posted by: canuck | Mar 26 2024 11:13 utc | 283

Your entire post is hogwash. Westerners are humans; humans are violent. All humans are violent if they get the chance.
Are you not aware of the below atrocities?
Genghis Khan-maybe he was Irish?
Pol Pot maybe his name was really Steve Johnson but Righties managed to secretly change the name.
In the 1400’s the Aztecs sacrificed 80,000 people to their god QuetzcoatL in three days! Maybe a Viking snuck in an commnanded them thus?
The Japanese raped countless Korean women in the 30’s then treated the American POWs in WW2 dreadfully-maybe they were English?
The Huron Indians in the 17th century tortured 3 Jesuit priests to death in Midland , Ontario.
I could go on.
You Marxists have to painfully produce long, complicated posts to try to change reality (see above) but you are so ideologically driven you have lost your basic rationality.
Posted by: canuck | Mar 26 2024 11:24 utc | 285

Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2024 3:36 utc | 153

Looking to the future … Sergei A. Karaganov
Professor Emeritus
My previous article discussed the unprecedentedly dangerous situation in which we now find ourselves (Karaganov, 2024). In this article, I outline the new policies and priorities that Russia, as I believe, should adopt, building upon Russia’s National Security Strategy (2021) and especially its Foreign Policy Concept (2023).
An Age of Wars? Article Two. What Is to Be Done
https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/an-age-of-wars-what-is-to-be-done/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 9 2024 4:48 utc | 154

I highly doubt the white units were marching to that. … You would be quite shocked at some of the cadence calls used in units that were still all white in the early 90’s.
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 9 2024 1:32 utc | 147
You can have your doubts but the history of the song indicates that it was hugely popular among the Union soldiers. So much so that there were competing versions written by Confederate troops. And you needn’t tell me about racism in the US military. I am a Vietnam Vet and know about it first hand, in many shades of color.
The actions of abolitionist John Brown helped polarize opinion, thus leading to the Civil War being fought sooner rather than later which, tragic as it was, would have been even more deadly if delayed.
The point of bringing this up is not about the song but to put the spotlight on Hamas’ actions in forcing the issue in Palestine. I think the analogy is apt.
(see LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53)

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 9 2024 4:58 utc | 155

It is my understanding that Yellen is ending her China visit after 4 days instead of the initially reported 6. Xinhuanet has a posting up with the title
China conveys concerns to U.S. over sanctions, tariffs, investment restrictions during Yellen’s visit
the link
https://english.news.cn/20240408/e4b672e0842141f4acbf149bfc99eff9/c.html
the quote

Addressing a press briefing regarding Yellen’s visit from April 4 to 9, Vice Minister of Finance Liao Min said that such actions by the United States harm the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese companies and people, and are also not conducive to the well-being of U.S. companies and people.
“China welcomes the U.S. statement that it does not seek to decouple from China, and hopes that the U.S. side will take concrete actions to stop sanctions and restrictions on Chinese companies,” Liao said.
“The two sides believe that every country has legitimate needs to safeguard national security, but China stressed that the concept of ‘national security’ should not be generalized, and the so-called ‘diversification’ should not be used as an excuse to undermine the normal trade and investment exchanges between the two countries and around the world, as well as the stability of the industrial production and supply chains,” Liao said.
He noted that in addition to these issues, the discussions between Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng and U.S. Treasury Secretary Yellen also covered other major topics, including the macroeconomic situations of both nations, the response to global challenges, and the exchange of mutual concerns.
According to Liao, China and the United States have reached two new consensus outcomes during Yellen’s trip. First, the finance departments of both nations will take the lead in exchanges on the issue of balanced economic growth of the two countries and the world under the framework of the China-U.S. economic working group. Second, led by the People’s Bank of China and the U.S. Department of the Treasury, discussions on financial stability, sustainable finance, anti-money laundering and other issues under the framework of the bilateral financial working group will be held continuously.
He added that the fourth meeting of these two working groups will also be held separately in the middle of this month in the United States.

I am fascinated by the two new consensus outcomes and only wish there will be some visibility on the process so the public may be educated on the differences between the countries views on balanced economic growth for the world and the oxymoron of financial stability.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 5:17 utc | 156

Wall Street On Parade has a posting up showing the flashing red sign that there may be a problem with US finance
For the First Time in History, the Fed Is Reporting Billions in Losses Weekly; It’s Still Paying High Interest Income to the Mega Banks on Wall Street
the link
https://wallstreetonparade.com/2024/04/for-the-first-time-in-history-the-fed-is-reporting-billions-in-losses-weekly-its-still-paying-high-interest-income-to-the-mega-banks-on-wall-street/
The creative accounting being used is blatant but that is where this shit show is.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 5:40 utc | 157

I can’t sleep quite yet with pain management issues with shoulders so let me throw out another observation about China and balanced economic growth for the world and the oxymoron of financial stability.
Balanced economic growth for the world is existentially different for the West than for China. It is the God Of Mammon profit driven economic structure of the West that competes intrinsically with the anti-elite public focus of the China/Russia axis.
All those top end politicos may talk about this in closed rooms but the reality is as I outlined above. How will it be portrayed by the global media?
The oxymoron of financial stability is going to be even more interesting because global debt is the result of lack of debt jubilees or something similar keeping the world on a more even social basis. The debt bubble is going to burst as part of the coming phase in our civilization war and the resolution of the debt/financial stability conundrum will be part of the bigger global financial system run by all the sovereign nations instead of the inherited elite of the current West as finance is controlled now….its all about adult risk management and wealth sharing

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 7:45 utc | 158

On recent climate science quandaries — Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 2:29 utc | 150
eg NASA-GISS Gavin Schmidt et al EXCUSES DENIALS on
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-09/data-can-t-explain-off-the-charts-heat/103649190
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2024 3:14 utc | 151
Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 3:35 utc | 152
(for anyone actually interested in this topic)
Maybe it is true that the warming effect FORCING of Aerosols (ie their cooling effect, including the cloud effects) in particular SULPGUR aerosols that have peculiar behaviour/effects – especially over the oceans which (mor elikely than not) HAVE MUCH greater effect than the “numbers” Gavin et al are using in their 2024 calculations and in their CMIP6 Climate models?
Many highly qualified credible climate scientists have been pointing this out for literally years now!
Is anyone listening or looking at the known data / evidence? Yes many are but they get DROWNED OUT by endless high exposure of the Celebrity-Mainstream Climate Scientist’s (It is a Cabal) public comments and reporting by CAPTURED JOURNALISTS which overwhelms all other voices – same as US/NATO Propaganda smothers all other Views in the MSM Western Media
And similarly, maybe the ECS set at +3C for doubling of CO2 levels (which is accepted as CORRECT by Mainstream Climate scientists Cabal) is also wrong, as shown by both the DISCARDED Hot Models in CMIP6 and other multiple lines of evidence provided in multiple published science papers already for YEARS – but Denied and Dismissed out of hand by the (seriously flawed) IPCC SYSTEM and Conservative Climate Scientists – Mann, Schmidt, Hausfather, Dessler and friends etc etc etc
Perhaps James Hansen et al 2023 is in fact correct and the the ECS is actually more like circa 4.8C — meaning the GCMs are generally all underestimating the warming effects of CO2 (GHGs) as well as underestimating the ESTIMATES of Aerosol cooling on that warming.
Maybe, just maybe Hansen and many many others are correct that the EFFECTS ie ASSUMED FORCING of Aerosols and Cloud Behavior which was and still is intentionally minimized in the MODELS for DECADES so that the output could actually match Observations is and always has been WRONG ???
The lines of evidence showing this, suggesting this, are many and profound. But continually being denied, and then dismissed as wild unfounded conjecture …. based upon ….. yes, the very Models being criticized for being wrong. That takes some chutzpah! And insulting of James Hansen and all his co-authors.
Thankfully there is this giant geoengineering experiment being performed right now in the oceans with a massive reduction is SULPHUR content of shipping fuels since 2020 (and earlier from 2010 to a lesser degree) which may just finally put a nail in the coffin of the voices of the very outspoken dismissive group of scientists who deny it is possible.
Hansen says it will take only a few years from now to clear up the errors / contradictions / confirm who is definitively right or wrong based on the DATA alone one way or another.
REFS
Hansen et al 2023
https://academic.oup.com/oocc/article/3/1/kgad008/7335889?searchresult=1&login=false
Citations
https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?cites=4045509275128937674&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en
Hansen central
https://csas.earth.columbia.edu/about/people/james-e-hansen
Global Warming Acceleration: Hope vs Hopium 29 March 2024
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2024/Hopium.MarchEmail.2024.03.29.pdf
HANSEN et al discuss the Nov 2023 Pipeline paper
Leading Climate Scientists To Discuss Ground-breaking New Research on Global Warming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDWpBlPCY8
QUOTE
Please note that Mann has been denying the desulphurisation of shipping and plenty evidence of the increased rate of global heat uptake from NASA CERES satellites and NOAA Ocean Heat Content data.
Even now that an update of his singled out Ocean Heat Content dataset (Cheng et al. 2024) shows an acceleration of 0.36 W/m² per decade from 2005-2023 (the period with global observation coverage), there is no rectification and the public smearing of the science continues.
Hansen is not an outlier.
https://nitter.poast.org/LeonSimons8/status/1773739983016231004#m
WHY was 2023 so extreme? The data is finally in!
The world absorbed a lot more sunlight, as less was reflected.
While greenhouse gases kept most of the additional heat in.
https://nitter.poast.org/LeonSimons8/status/1767509577656856739?s=20
The most important @NASA graph in the world confirms increased Earth’s Energy Imbalance from aerosol reductions (+0.2 W/m²/decade) and increasing greenhouse gases (+0.34 W/m²/dec) up to 2019!
This doesn’t even include 2020 shipping desulphurisation yet!!
https://nitter.poast.org/LeonSimons8/status/1775498391662866820#m
The main issue is the massive reduction in Sulphur Aerosols coupled with FLAWED Models especially the CMIP6 and how they have been manipulated/misused, and then Earth’s Energy Imbalance is increasing rapidly and that will continue to accelerate global warming and temperature from here on.
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HAUSFATHER’s latest version of Science DENIAL, excuses, hypocrisy, sophistry while ignoring known science and Hansen 4 April 2024 14:32
Factcheck: Why the recent ‘acceleration’ in global warming is what scientists expect
https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-why-the-recent-acceleration-in-global-warming-is-what-scientists-expect/
imo, one day this huge issue (Dr. Hansen calls it a BIG FUCKING DEAL ) is going to blow up in the faces of hundreds of Climate scientists – and soon in the next few years – as Temps continue to rapidly rise much faster than the MODELS or Scientists can predict!!!
[ please excuse my CAPS – I find the topic quite annoying and so it erupts in CAPS a lot LOL ]
Questions? I have many refs for the keen and adventurous soul.
PS PsychoH condolences on the pain mate. Keep well. I hope it improves fast.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 9 2024 7:51 utc | 159

I think this deserves some quoting of the intro by Hansen – well worth reading – clear and straight forward.
Global Warming Acceleration: Hope vs Hopium
29 March 2024
James Hansen, Makiko Sato, Pushker Kharecha
Accumulating evidence supports the interpretation in our Pipeline paper: decreasing human-made
aerosols increased Earth’s energy imbalance and accelerated global warming in the past decade.
Climate sensitivity and aerosol forcing, physically independent quantities, were tied together by
United Nations IPCC climate assessments that rely excessively on global climate models (GCMs)
and fail to measure climate forcing by aerosols. IPCC’s best estimates for climate sensitivity and
aerosol forcing both understate reality. Preservation of global shorelines and global climate
patterns – the world humanity is adapted to – likely will require at least partly reversing global
warming. Required actions and time scale are undefined. A bright future for today’s young people
is still possible, but its attainment is hampered by precatory (wishful thinking) policies that do not
realistically account for global energy needs and aspirations of nations with emerging economies.
An alternative is needed to the GCM-dominated (models) perspective on climate science. We will bear a
heavy burden if we stand silent or meek as the world continues on its present course.
Our paper, Global Warming in the Pipeline, was greeted by a few scientists, among the most
active in communication with the public, with denial. Our friend Michael Mann, e.g., with a
large public following, refused to concede that global warming is accelerating. We mention
Mike because we know that he won’t take this notation personally.
Accelerated global warming is the first significant change of global warming rate since 1970.
It is important because it confirms the futility of “net zero” hopium that serves as present
energy policy and because we are running short of time to avoid passing the point of no
return.
cont’
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2024/Hopium.MarchEmail.2024.03.29.pdf
2023 Paper
https://academic.oup.com/oocc/article/3/1/kgad008/7335889?searchresult=1&login=false
This is a Big Deal – I highly recommend people read it – slowly and carefully and all of it. Cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 9 2024 8:04 utc | 160

Looks like Musk is running a regime change operation in Brazil.
With Trump as President, I assume south America will come under renewed US attack by the nationalist faction of the deep state.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 10:16 utc | 161

“Looks like Musk is running a regime change operation in Brazil.
With Trump as President, I assume south America will come under renewed US attack by the nationalist faction of the deep state.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 10:16 utc | 160
I disagree.
I believe that Musk is for ‘free speech’ or he wouldn’t have put his reputation on the line-he now is being persecuted politically and economically – as well as ‘blowing $44 billion dollars.
Since, Musk changed his Dem. tune, he has taken on Twitter /X a Delaware court (controlled by the neo cons) has taken away a legal $56 billion bonus duly voted and approved by Tesla’s shareholders:
“Elon Musk’s $55bn pay package from Tesla has been voided by a Delaware judge, who ruled that the unprecedented remuneration was improperly approved by the electric-car maker’s board of directors and had short-changed the company’s shareholders. (1)
Why would he take on the neo cons if he works for them? ‘Controlled opposition’-that is a bogus conspiracy theory in my books.
1.https://www.ft.com/content/4ea5fbbb-42a4-405f-a4cd-3f0528e66ccd

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 11:52 utc | 162

canuck | Apr 9 2024 11:52 utc | 161
Musk changed his tune with Israel. If you watch any of the Americans that speak out against the war with Russia, but then watch them say something about socialism – commies blah blah. Musk’s tweet some years back on regime change in Bolivia…
The Nationalist/realist faction in the US are not nice guys either. They mostly back Trump – I looked up trumps view on wars in MENA, and for every war, every destroyed nation, he said “we should have taken the oil”. Realist mafia types.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 12:02 utc | 163

canuck
That Musk tweet on Bolivia – I forget the exact wording now but it was about US gaining control of the lithium. Very much in Musk’s interests.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 12:07 utc | 164

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 12:02 utc | 162
Everyone is after oil, Trump included-at least he’s honest about it and doesn’t declare some treacly BS about “saving people’s freedoms”.
How many wars did Trump start in his presidency?

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 12:11 utc | 165

“canuck
That Musk tweet on Bolivia – I forget the exact wording now but it was about US gaining control of the lithium. Very much in Musk’s interests.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 12:07 utc | 163
Like it or not that’s what capitalists do: securing supply for their business. Tesla requires a plethora of Lithium
That doesn’t make him a neo con warmonger.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 12:13 utc | 166

CBC The National’ The Moment was about the eclipse. ‘Solar eclipse had everyone looking’
https://youtu.be/63MaHDCODIg
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/chroniques/2024-04-09/eclipse-solaire/un-woodstock-cosmique.php
Hey it was the anniversary of the Entente Cordiale. I see the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh stepped in for the King. Who must have had other engagements to attend to, or wasn’t feeling up to going with his cancer diagnosis (I think he was otherwise engaged. My two cents.)
https://x.com/RoyalFamily/status/1777351623867588846
https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1777246289983422827
Macron’s meeting with Serbia’s Vucic today.
https://x.com/ArmyInLondon/status/1776299793070907612
https://x.com/BritishArmy/status/1777245242997031050
Lula was visited by a representative from the Vatican.
https://x.com/LulaOficial/status/1777399894363234733

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 9 2024 12:14 utc | 167

canuck | Apr 9 2024 12:13 utc | 165 “Like it or not that’s what capitalists do: securing supply for their business. Tesla requires a plethora of Lithium
That doesn’t make him a neo con warmonger.”
So they are the good guys?
And Musk’s operation against Brazil? Just doing it out of the goodness of his heart?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 12:18 utc | 168

Like it or not that’s what capitalists do: securing supply for their business. Tesla requires a plethora of Lithium
That doesn’t make him a neo con warmonger.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 12:13 utc | 165
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No, but it does make him one hell of a capitalist predator.
Pedo Guy’s tweet read “We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it!”

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 12:34 utc | 169

No, but it does make him one hell of a capitalist predator.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 12:34 utc | 168
“Capitalist predator”-like Orville Wright; James Watt; Robert Noyce (inventor of silicon chip): Marconi; Phil Farnsworth (inventor of modern TV; Henry Ford…
The list goes on-without capitalism you wouldn’t be posting around the world for free as we are now doing.
Communist regimes don’t hold a candle to Capitalist country’s development of technology in the 19th and 20th centuries and yes they come with ambitious capitalists.
Curiously , China now is more capitalist than the Fascist USA-one doesn’t have to look no further than Janet Yellen’s moaning to China yesterday because the Chinese are , ‘producing goods too efficiently”!!
Just like the ‘ambitious communists’ like yourself whom dedicate their energy to becoming ‘victims’-akin to Zionists’ ‘go to empathy card’. While simultaneously tearing down their own firmament of lifestyle achievements created by ‘ambitious capitalists.
Wake up my friend.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 13:05 utc | 170

“Capitalist predator”-like Orville Wright; James Watt; Robert Noyce (inventor of silicon chip): Marconi; Phil Farnsworth (inventor of modern TV; Henry Ford…
Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 13:05 utc | 169
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Were all those guys advocating the violent overthrow of other governments to make their businesses more profitable?

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:14 utc | 171

Looks like there’s no need for foreign-sourced lithium:
https://www.techspot.com/news/100117-potentially-world-largest-lithium-deposit-has-found-us.html
But the Yanks had no need for foreign-sourced oil and gas either.
I think there is a geopolitical power dimension to resource exploitation, not simple capitalism profit-loss calculations. Most of the oil-related turmoil in the Middle East was unnecessary but they kept engendering it anyway.
Which is why I often think Satanism is a better explanation than more reasonable tropes like ‘capitalism’, ‘imperialism’ etc. Some mentalities are addicted to conflict and stress. In Hindu-Buddhist cosmology they are called ‘asuras’. They love war; they also love putting inferiors down plus dragging those above them to their level; it’s what they do.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:24 utc | 172

canuck | Apr 9 2024 13:05 utc | 169
Early ideological communism was as unworkable as current America. Most have developed the right mix of Government control and private enterprise/ingenuity.
American culture is one of constant expansion and exceptionalism – the many doctrines, none rescinded. US has some hard lessons to learn, along with the western world that has largely been Americanized.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 13:27 utc | 173

Looks like there’s no need for foreign-sourced lithium:
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:24 utc | 171
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Maybe not, but apparently there’s a need to corner the world market so that “competitors” and other enemies can’t have any, except on our terms. As has been the case, but apparently is no longer, with the world oil market.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:32 utc | 174

a quick 6 minutes Shahid Bolsen, sums it up.
The Sociopathic Materialism of the West
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qyZVsWXwo

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 9 2024 13:39 utc | 175

https://www.arktosjournal.com/p/how-to-stop-the-west-from-falling
Petr Hampl explores the multifaceted decline of Western civilisation and outlines a comprehensive strategy for its revitalisation.
…In the world that is already taking shape, no one will need Western banks, consultancy services or anything like that, and therefore no Western money. …
At the moment, this may not be fully apparent because the West is still living off its heritage. It is living on what has been built up over the centuries when it was the centre of production and rational science. But it adds almost nothing to it and cannot even keep what it has built going — from declining education to crumbling roads……
Is it possible to stop the fall? Of course it is! Western nations and states could reverse the trend by doing the follow ing.
First: Conditions will change so that different types of people will rise to the top than before….the idea is to turn from social creativity to technical creativity. How is this so essential? Technical creativity means that the mind is focused on solving a problem, and that one gets more or less unambiguous feedback: it works or it doesn’t work….
Second: Manufacturing, science and agriculture must be more important than banking, commerce, politics and advertising, and compensation must be accordingly….
Third: Education must refocus on the growth of hard knowledge and performance and on the natural sciences. This involves not just a different curriculum, but a completely different approach. ….
Fourth: National societies must become more socially homogeneous. As Christopher Lasch once wrote, differences in wealth and income can only be tolerated as long as they do not create barriers between people. Never mind that artists earn more than workers — as long as it doesn’t lead to them creating their own world and losing the ability to communicate with them. Among other things, this means that the greater the differences in wealth and income, the more we need to invest in a common culture, in maintaining common ideals and in promoting a common lifestyle.
What I am proposing is really just a repetition of how the success of industrial Europe was founded in the 19th century and what was repeated in a more modern form after the Second World War. Some European countries are trying something similar today, but elsewhere this historical experience has been completely forgotten. Probably because the social forces that hold most of the power are well aware that such a reform would endanger them.
By contrast, this part of European history has been intensively studied in China. We should study it as well.

Perhaps this approach could be called rational materialism but it’s a bit better than that because it recognizes the importance of having a strong society whose various classes, with differences in status and income, feel bound together, which of course values various non-material aspects of human life. All good societies have this dynamic; only ideologues following utopian fantasies believe they can make everyone equal, or happy, or obedient, or whatever. The greatest tyrannies are those trapped in unrealistic, anti-human thought forms.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:40 utc | 176

“..;only ideologues following utopian fantasies believe they can make everyone equal, or happy, or obedient, or whatever. The greatest tyrannies are those trapped in unrealistic, anti-human thought forms.”
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:40 utc | 175
Amen

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 13:41 utc | 177

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:32 utc | 173
Maybe not, but apparently there’s a need to corner the world market so that “competitors” and other enemies can’t have any, except on our terms. As has been the case, but apparently is no longer, with the world oil market.

Yeah…. presumably your point is that it all boils down to monopoly capitalism, which is engendering and managing scarcity to boost profits and control access to that market. WHich is profit-loss calculations after all.
I guess I find it hard to believe that such calculations motivate people who enjoy such wealth and privilege. But that’s the system.
Personally, I don’t think the word ‘capitalism’ encompasses the scope of all that is involved, but no matter.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:46 utc | 178

Yeah…. presumably your point is that
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:46 utc | 177
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Yeah. Presumably your point is that you can’t address mine, so you make up straw men to address.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:55 utc | 179

Oops, apologies to scorpion; I thought his post was another of canuck’s eructations.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:56 utc | 180

Personally, I don’t think the word ‘capitalism’ encompasses the scope of all that is involved, but no matter.
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:46 utc | 177
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True enough, I guess. In fact there’s a much better word for the alignment of corporate and state interests. Hmm, what was that word again? Begins with f, I’m sure. Frankism? factism? hmm . . . anyone?

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:59 utc | 181

The US elites are incredible with their pathological hubris and mafia-like threats.
US pledges to prevent Russia from developing new energy projects
Washington wants to ensure that Novatek’s Arctic LNG 2 project is “dead in the water,” the State Department has said
The US is aiming to halt the development of the Russian energy sector, including a major new LNG project in the Arctic, senior State Department official Geoffrey Pyatt has said.
Speaking at a Financial Times summit on Monday, Pyatt stated that the US is specifically targeting the Arctic LNG 2 project in Russia’s northern Yamal Region, which is being developed by private energy giant Novatek.
“Our goal is to ensure that Arctic LNG 2 is dead in the water,” Pyatt, who serves as assistant secretary of state for energy resources, was quoted as saying by the British newspaper. “We’re very focused on ensuring that Russia is not able to develop new projects in order to [redirect] the gas that it had previously sent into Europe.”
The US has imposed several rounds of economic restrictions on Arctic LNG 2, the most recent of which was announced in November 2023.
Cutting Europe off from cheap Russian pipeline gas has been a key component of Western retaliation since Moscow launched its military operation in Ukraine in 2022. While American LNG producers have seized a large share of the market, Russian gas continues to flow to some EU member states.
According to a Reuters estimate, the EU boosted purchases of Russian LNG in 2023 to compensate for the loss of pipeline gas. LNG currently holds a 15% share of the market, up from roughly 8% before 2022. The share of the Russian pipeline gas was previously 37%.
https://www.rt.com/news/595630-novatek-arctic-lng-sanctions/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 9 2024 14:07 utc | 182

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:55 utc | 178
Yeah…. presumably your point is that
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:46 utc | 177
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Yeah. Presumably your point is that you can’t address mine, so you make up straw men to address.

Wasn’t being snarky. I thought that was maybe your point but wasn’t sure from the wording.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 14:09 utc | 183

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:59 utc | 180
Personally, I don’t think the word ‘capitalism’ encompasses the scope of all that is involved, but no matter.
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 13:46 utc | 177
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True enough, I guess. In fact there’s a much better word for the alignment of corporate and state interests. Hmm, what was that word again? Begins with f, I’m sure. Frankism? factism? hmm . . . anyone?

Well my beef – a horse I have beaten overmuch here – is that these terms are all too narrow-bandwidth following the 18th century boom in materialist-scientist thinking. It has its value and strengths but it also overlooks many key aspects of human experience, both individual and collective.
The Arktos article, for example, which says a Decline of the West can be stopped by emphasizing practicality, engineering, doing rather than thinking/talking etc., also ends with stressing how important it is to have a society which is bound together with sufficient homogeneity that even though there are class differences the togetherness felt trumps that. This is how it actually works when it works well – the reason why working class people are often the most patriotic even though they know they are often being screwed. Something is bigger than that. Some sense of belonging in a group congregation of sorts wherein communion is found, aka solidarity. These sorts of dynamics, though involved in communism, capitalism and fascism, are not fully described in the theory which tends to over-emphasize the materialist aspects.
I have been learning on this forum a bit more about what leftists mean by ‘capitalism’ and understand there are many valid criticisms to be made though I think too many demonize on both sides. I just think the framing could be more comprehensive than the simplistic labels (capitalism, fascism etc.) and suspect Marx – from what little I’ve understood of his writing – would agree.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 14:26 utc | 184

Simplicius has a very good column today on the subject of Capitalism and the Chinese economy. One of the most peculiar stories of the past week has been that of Yellen asking China’s government not to be so competitive.
It turns out that the capitalist system, as a five year old child can see, is not particularly efficient in any area but that of delivering massive ‘profits’ to the ruling class, which grows progressively smaller, in relative terms, while the populace slides inexorably into declining incomes, living standards and wealth.
In Canada increasingly young people are realising that they will never be able to buy their own homes. Like their immigrant great grandparents most will be renters for life. In the meantime they have the mortgages they incurred getting post secondary education to think about and re-pay.
The article is full of evidence that western capitalism is declining and that systems such as China’s, which regulate and control the capitalist sector, are pulverising it. There is a chart, for example, showing the rate at which industrial robots are being installed in various countries, year by year. China is at the top of the list followed by Japan, the US, S.Korea, Germany, Italy, Taiwan, France, Mexico, Singapore and India. Turkiye, Thailand and Canada come next. The difference between China and Canada is in the order of 300 to less than ten. Britain doesn’t even get on the list: the economy that initiated the modern industrial system is installing fewer robots annually than either Thailand, Mexico or Singapore.
The basic problems in the ‘west’ are easily explained, nothing Simplicius has to tell us on the subject is not well known. Though it is fervently denied by the ideologues of capitalism, like Yellen.
“Western leaders not only are incapable of even grasping the complexities involved of reining in capital, they are unable to do so for the mere fact that they’re totally bought and paid for by the representatives of that very capital class. The cabal of Capital is so deeply rooted and institutionally entwined with Western governmental systems that it’s simply impossible to imagine them being able to see ‘the forest for the trees’ from within the forest itself……”
“…The trade official described China as a system “that we’ve articulated as being not market-based, as being fundamentally nurtured differently, against which a market-based system like ours is going to have trouble competing against and surviving.”
“These are code words: what she means by “market based” is free market capitalism, while China uses more of a centrally-planned directive system, as outlined earlier. Recall just recently I posted complaints from Western officials that their companies are not able to compete with Russian defense manufacturers due to their ‘unfairly’ efficient ‘central planning’ style.
“Here too, what they mean is that the Chinese government creates directives that spurn ‘market logics’ and are aimed at direct improvements to the lives of ordinary citizens. In the West there’s no such thing: all market decisions are based merely on the totally detached financial firms’ speculations and are exclusively at the behest of a tiny claque of finance and banking elite at the top of the pyramid…”
The article in its entirety is highly recommended- there is much more in it than I have outlined. But the basic message is one that is surprisingly novel- in large part because our political discussions are overshadowed by a barely understood history of the post 1917 period in which one side is mired in the most vulgar neo-liberal fundamentalism and the other, that of socialist critics of capitalism, is dominated by obsolete arguments over the desperate measures that the Soviet Union took after 1928 while it prepared to meet what became Operation Barbarossa.
In fact China is following closely in the path that Lenin pointed out as the Civil War in Russia was ending- a New Economic Policy in which central planning for the overall good of society does not stifle originality and innovation. Among the elements from which Chinese technological advances is being built are a vast and efficient educational system enabling and ecnouraging not just the lucky few with deep pockets but the entire population to develop their capacities to the fullest extent. At the same time living standards and particularly those related to individual security are rising on a broad front. He produces another chart showing that the mean worth of Chinese households is close to that of those in the US, whereas the median reflects the greater inequality in US society.
In a word, as the development of the British and other European economies in the post war pre-Thatcher era showed, massive investment in education, health, public transport and housing designed to produce a healthy, productive, secure and confident population is far more likely to produce wealth than the Hugner Games rat race in the face of starvation promoted by neo-liberalism.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 9 2024 15:05 utc | 185

Sugary but why not =)
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/107169

🇸🇾 He never backed down, and they tried to ruin him.
They failed.

Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 9 2024 15:26 utc | 186

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 9 2024 14:26 utc | 184
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Lately, I have noticed a trend of your discussing social dynamics and the values necessary to have community. I enjoy those comments very much.
It’s a subject matter that I find endlessly fascinating. A problem so large and deep that I can drown my intellect in it and still barely touch the surface.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 15:43 utc | 187

As I read my comment, I realized that it can be understood as how shallow my intellect is.
And in an epistemic sense, that is probably true.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 15:46 utc | 188

Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 9 2024 15:26 utc | 186
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Now you’re making me teary-eyed.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 15:49 utc | 189

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 15:43 utc | 187
I will agree with your assessment, LoveDonbass, and offer another quotation from Scorpion herewith:
“…Something is bigger than that. Some sense of belonging in a group congregation of sorts wherein communion is found, aka solidarity. These sorts of dynamics, though involved in communism, capitalism and fascism, are not full
y described in the theory which tends to over-emphasize the materialist aspects…”

Posted by: juliania | Apr 9 2024 16:56 utc | 190

“Simplicius has a very good column today on the subject of Capitalism and the Chinese economy. One of the most peculiar stories of the past week has been that of Yellen asking China’s government not to be so competitive.
It turns out that the capitalist system, as a five year old child can see, is not particularly efficient in any area but that of delivering massive ‘profits’ to the ruling class, which grows progressively smaller, in relative terms, while the populace slides inexorably into declining incomes, living standards and wealth.
In Canada increasingly young people are realising that they will never be able to buy their own homes. Like their immigrant great grandparents most will be renters for life. In the meantime they have the mortgages they incurred getting post secondary education to think about and re-pay.”
Bevin the Jewish Apologist
China’s hybrid ‘social capitalism’ are going to outperform the West because the they have intertwined the best of socialism and capitalism while the West’s growth is stunted because they are Fascist.
“Against conventional wisdom, we take the end of 1976 as the start of post‐​Mao reform and argue that China basically became a market economy by the end of the 90s before it joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. In the new millennium, the Chinese economy has kept its growth momentum and become more integrated with the global economy. As an account of how China became capitalist, our book focuses mainly on the first two decades of reform. Within this time frame, our account is split into two parts by a dividing event, the 1989 Student Movement.”(1)
1.https://www.cato.org/policy-report/january/february-2013/how-china-became-capitalist

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 17:47 utc | 191

“Oops, apologies to scorpion; I thought his post was another of canuck’s eructations.”
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 13:56 utc | 180
‘Eructations’-I had to look it up-‘canuk belched’
To be honest- that’s not bad; my wife has mirrored your comment of myself a number of times-reluctantly,…. I have to give you an ‘A’ on that ad hominem.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 9 2024 17:54 utc | 192

@ canuck | Apr 9 2024 17:54 utc | 192
I suppose there’s no hope in this life of your learning what an ad hominem is, is there?
Hint: It’s not a synonym for “insult.”

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2024 17:57 utc | 193

Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2024 13:27 utc | 173
*** American culture is one of constant expansion and exceptionalism ***
Hardly a “culture” … more a synthetic mass-marketing exercise.
Everything and everybody now just a price-labelled commodity for speculation.
All plasticised shit.
*** the western world that has largely been Americanized.***
Zombified.
As their slogan/song doesn’t say, “God Blitz America”.

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 9 2024 18:16 utc | 194

canuck

Your entire post is hogwash. Westerners are humans; humans are violent. All humans are violent if they get the chance.

Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2024 3:36 utc | 153
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Applying canuck’s logic…
Any genocidaire can make excuse like so…

We are humans; humans are violent. All humans are violent if they get the chance.

So why is canuck bleating about the Jews ?
or the Mongols, Vikings, japs……?
Hmm,
I suppose genocides are the prerogative
of white men ,More western exceptionalism eh??

Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2024 18:21 utc | 195

@canuck | Apr 9 2024 17:47 utc | 191
Socialist and capitalist economies are defined by who own the means of production, not by the organization of the production and distribution of goods. Even Propagandapedia acknowledges that Socialist market economies actually exist. The central planning, that was a characteristic of the USSR, was more the result of a constant state of war economy than a product of Marxist ideology.
In China the bank system, that is the capital, is firmly in the hands of the state, that is why it is socialist.

Posted by: SG | Apr 9 2024 18:43 utc | 196

Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2024 18:21 utc | 195
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Wow! Are the Vikings committing another genocide again?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 18:52 utc | 197

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2024 18:52 utc | 197
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Idiot, those are loose canuck’s words.

Why pick on us, we aint the only genocidaire !
What about the Mongols,
Vikings,
japs….
Its human nature !

YOu already have G7, adding the Swedes and the MOngols would be the perfect successor to ENA, .

Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2024 19:42 utc | 198

Reportedly,
tHE anglo/euro garden’s entire existence are threatened by Chinese, the purported yellow peril.
Hence, they need,
G6 + Mongol [The original yellow peril] + Jap [The 2nd yellow peril]
vs
China [victim of all the above]
Only the perfidious west could come up with such convoluted nonsense.
Talk about culture of deceit
signing off…..

Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2024 20:14 utc | 199

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202404/1310239.shtml

Such criticism soon drew a backlash from American viewers, who argued that it is an internationally recognized fact that the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan destroyed the ability of Japanese militarists to continue waging war, thus hastening the end of World War II and the global peace process.
As the spat expanded, more and more American netizens realized that the most crucial reason for the US to drop the atomic bombs on Japan was Japan’s external aggression, during which the Japanese army committed unimaginable war crimes.

If I could, I’d tell whoever wrote this that the real reasons the US dropped the nukes were 1) that the USSR was heading East and the US wanted to stop the USSR from putting Japan in their camp and 2) to intimidate the USSR by illustrating they, the US, had the bomb.
For an outlet that decries the crimes of the Outlaw US Empire, GlobalTimes seems to not be above justifying one such war crime and imbibing one of its dishonest narratives. I’d hate to paraphrase Bush’s “You’re either for us or against us” as much as the next person, but at the same time some of us also want consistency and abhor double standards.
I don’t know about you guys, but I have removed GlobalTimes from my reading list.

Posted by: joey_n | Apr 9 2024 20:26 utc | 200