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April 7, 2024
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2024-101

Last weeks posts on Moon of Alabama:

Middle East:

Ukraine:

Russia:


Other issues:


Gaza:

ISIS:

Baltimore Key Bridge:

Watching the livestream and reading through the status reports I fail to detect any sense of urgency. The main clearing effort for now seems to be in an area that is irrelevant for reopening the main passage to the port. – b.

Empire:

Comments

The “How To Read Wars” rubbish claims Russian paratroopers were massacred, which will be need to Russian paratroopers. As well the claim that Russian youth don’t want to sign up be need to the Russian Young men who are signing up in their hundreds of thousands. But I suppose no Western article can be published without writing that kind of rubbish.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 7 2024 13:18 utc | 1

Was surprised no mention of the Mexico Ecuador dustup currently riling Latin America. Since b linked to Anadolu might as well start there.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/nicaragua-breaks-ties-with-ecuador-after-raid-on-mexican-embassy/3185509
Keep in mind that it was the incoming Ecuadorian government who sold Julian Assange down the river when he was a refugee/asylum seeker in their own embassy in England. So clearly this is a regime that has no respect for diplomatic immunity or diplomacy in general.
https://www.proceso.com.mx/nacional/2024/4/6/ecuador-luce-aislado-sin-apoyo-regional-tras-allanar-embajada-de-mexico-en-quito-326762.html
Machine translation:

BOGOTÁ (apro) .- The government of Ecuadorian President Daniel Noboa looked this Saturday as a country diplomatically isolated from the rest of the Latin American nations after raiding Friday night, with a unit of armed police, the Mexican Embassy in Quito, which was considered an act in violation of the Vienna Convention in the region.
Until noon this Saturday, no Latin American government had supported the action ordered by Noboa and, instead, most countries in the area, and even the Organization of American States (OAS), which has had a harsh relationship with Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, had rejected the assault on the diplomatic headquarters.

Things are getting interesting in this hemisphere too.
Since I’m merely a nobody commentator on a medium sized blog, I will go ahead and speak my opinion. I personally hope that Iran’s response to Israel’s version of lack of diplomatic respect for norms and law is the destruction of *several* Israeli consulates including in countries like Saudi Arabia such that it forces the US vassal states in that region, and in the EU, to realize that they are fucked – and stuck between a rock and a hard place where it comes to any further sustained capability for military escalation.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 13:31 utc | 2

“Since I’m merely a nobody commentator on a medium sized blog,..”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 13:31 utc | 2
True.
But you are way out of touch when you desire Iran to retaliate; don’t you realize that is exactly why the Anglo/Zionists executed that illegal attack?
The ROW observes the Zionist barbarity thereby further diminishing Israel’s standing in the world yet Israel keeps digging its hole…let them continue digging…
“Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake.”
Sun Tzu

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 13:56 utc | 3

Re: – Edward Luttwak: Time to Send NATO Troops – Simplicius.
This story glosses over the fact that Putin has already stated that if the Ukraine Fake War starts going pear-shaped for Russia, Russia will respond with Nukes – without further warning.
In any case, jewed-up NATO-ZATO is just as cowardly, disorganised and vindictive as their bosses in Tel Aviv; the IDF. Which is why NATO has NEVER attacked any entity which could competently defend itself and hadn’t disarmed before NATO attacked it.
Paper Tiger would be a flattering label. NATO reminds me of that line in the Blues Brothers movie…
Cop 1: “Uh oh!”
Cop 2: “What?”
Cop 1: “It’s that shitbox Dodge again!!”
Then they whizz out from behind the ad hoarding and smash headlong into the Good Ol’ Boys who were pursuing the Blues Bros.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2024 14:00 utc | 4

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 13:31 utc | 2
I see your point, and am inclined to agree with it, but it’s worth noting that despite lots of under-the-table footsie between “Israel” and KSA (oh, where is pq to spew venom at me for pointing this out?), there’s no Zionazi consulate in KSA. Egypt, Jordan, and various UAE satrapies, on the other hand, have official Zionazi diplomatic presence.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2024 14:00 utc | 5

There’re two episodes with Hudson, Diesen and Mercouris, both of which ought to be required watching.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 14:11 utc | 6

” But you are way out of touch when you desire Iran to retaliate; don’t you realize that is exactly why the Anglo/Zionists executed that illegal attack?
“Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake.”
Sun Tzu
Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 13:56 utc | 3 ”
Theres that weird circular logic again, with a bit of cliche thrown in. Did the US want Iran to retaliate when it killed Soleimani ? Did Iran walk into a trap when it attacked the US base ? Did US launch a war against it as a result ? Why would it be different this time ?

Posted by: Moonie | Apr 7 2024 14:27 utc | 7

recent headlines—–try Googling Edward Luttwak
It’s time to send Nato troops to Ukraine
By Edward Luttwak
In 1944, Leslie Groves, the US army general who managed the Manhattan Project, asked its chief scientist, J. Robert Oppenheimer,…
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3 days ago
The Telegraph
Europe is a continent of pacifists – no amount of money can fix Nato
By Edward N Luttwak
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The region is neither militarily or politically prepared to uphold her treaty commitments.
UnHerd
Israel is still winning the political war
By Edward Luttwak
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From the West to Saudi Arabia, its days of isolation are over.
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24 Jan 2024
somebody is losing their mind here, and not too sure as to who

Posted by: chris m | Apr 7 2024 14:34 utc | 8

Ruslan Pukhov, Director of Moscow’s Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, on the lessons from two years of the SMO:
From “Special” to “Military” (Russia in Global Affairs, Ruslan N. Pukhov, April 1, 2024; published in Russian on February 23, 2024)

Failed “Operation Danube”
We can retrospectively conclude that Russia initially planned an operation that was primarily “special” and only secondarily “military,” as it intended to achieve its goals without large-scale hostilities or organized armed resistance. Future historians will have to explain why Moscow considered this feasible, even though the Ukrainian army had been waging a continuous “minor” war in Donbass since 2014.
The initial SMO plan is actually quite familiar, as it copied Operation Danube, the 1968 Soviet intervention in Czechoslovakia. Analogously, the SMO envisaged the capture of Kiev’s airport, the deployment of paratroopers there to seal off the Ukrainian capital, and rapid advances of numerous armored and mechanized units to surround major cities, which would then be quickly pacified by light units, special forces, and intelligence services.
But Operation Danube and the February 2022 campaign differ not only in the strong resistance that the Ukrainian political leadership and armed forces put up. Operation Danube was carried out by a powerful group of Warsaw Pact forces that vastly outnumbered the Czechoslovak army, while the SMO was conducted in a country much larger than Czechoslovakia, using a limited contingent of about 185,000 troops (although this included most of the Russian Ground and Airborne Forces), or about 140 battalion tactical groups (BTG). Even including the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Militias (about 110,000 more personnel), this force was still outnumbered by the Ukrainians, already partially mobilized. The mobilization of first-category reservists, which began in Ukraine the day before the start of the SMO, summoned—within just several days—150,000 servicemen with combat experience in Donbass and filled the ranks of the key first-line brigades, thus tipping the balance and putting Russia at a complete disadvantage.
In such conditions, the outcome of the first stage of the SMO was determined solely by the balance of forces. The Russian troops, spread over eight different axes of attack, were quickly stopped and forced to fight a numerically superior enemy.
In the north, moving from Belarus through the Pripyat swamps and from Russia through the Sumy and Chernigov Regions of Ukraine, the main assault groups reached Kiev, but could neither surround (let alone occupy) it, nor protect their overstretched lines of communication. The landing at Gostomel Airport, facing fierce resistance and heavy shelling, turned from a bridgehead into a bloodbath. In the Kharkov region, the Russian troops were stopped both at the city’s approaches and on the nearby border. Attempts, by hastily mobilized and insufficiently equipped DPR and LPR forces, to eject Ukrainian troops from the lines where they had been entrenched since 2014, proved futile. The inability to suppress Ukrainian air defenses dramatically limited the effectiveness of Russian aviation , depriving Russia of one of its key advantages.
Success was achieved only in the south, apparently due to Russia’s sleeper-agents and supporters among the local population. Meeting minimal resistance, Russian troops from Crimea seized the Kherson and southern Zaporozhye regions within several days, reached Mariupol in the east, and pressed the advance towards Nikolayev and, bypassing it in the north, towards Odessa. However, the Russian troops failed to take control of these two main cities on the Black Sea. Landing ships manned with marines, brought together from Russia’s three European fleets, were stopped by mines and “unexpected” Ukrainian-made Neptune antiship missiles. On land, Ukrainian troops quickly recovered and stopped the Russians (which had owed their success mainly to surprise) at Nikolaev and Voznesensk, and by mid-March pushed them back to the borders of the Kherson and Nikolayev Regions.
Russia found itself in a state of large-scale war on a long front line, facing a quantitatively superior and well-armed enemy that was assisted by all the Western powers, which imposed unprecedented economic sanctions on Russia and began providing massive and ever-greater arms supplies to Ukraine.
From the very beginning, the biggest challenge was Kiev, where Russian troops from two military districts ended up in a wooded and swampy area without clear prospects for their effective employment, but under constant threat to their lines of communication, which ran along forest roads through the Sumy and Chernigov Regions that were functionally controlled by Kiev. There were not enough troops to capture Kiev, or even encircle and besiege it. Overall, it was only the extreme slowness and lack of initiative of Ukraine’s commanders and military in general that prevented the situation from turning into a severe crisis for the Russian side. If they had confronted a more energetic adversary, the Russian troops near Kiev would have faced a repeat of the 1920 Battle of Warsaw.
Recognizing the situation, the Russian command ordered a pullout of the troops from around Kiev in mid-March 2022, and by April 5, they were out of the Kiev, Sumy, Chernigov, and northern Kharkov Regions. This was essentially the end of the campaign to achieve decisive victory, since its main goal was obviously the capture of Kiev. Naturally, at the peace talks in Istanbul, the Russian delegation presented the withdrawal of the troops from around Kiev and from the north of Ukraine as an “act of goodwill.” Apparently, it was this “act,” rather than Boris Johnson’s intrigues, that led to the failure of the Istanbul talks. An army’s retreat from the enemy’s capital has never facilitated a compromise peace.
Kiev considered the withdrawal a triumph of its policy of resistance and a turning point, thinking that it could drive the Russian troops completely out of the country.
This was accompanied by massive Western political and military support that reached its peak in the spring of 2022. On May 9, 2022, the U.S. Congress even passed a Lend-Lease act for Ukraine, which theoretically gave Kiev access to unlimited U.S. military aid. The West came to believe that a combination of military and economic measures could inflict a “strategic defeat” on Russia, which, under favorable conditions, could lead to regime change in Moscow.
After an unsuccessful attempt at a compromise to end the war and a number of painful blows (e.g., on April 13-14, the Black Sea Fleet flagship, the missile cruiser Moskva, was sunk), Russia could do nothing but continue the military campaign, rethinking its goals and capabilities. As far as can be judged, the new plan provided for using the troops pulled out from the north of Ukraine to liberate the entire territory of the DPR and LPR and, possibly, partially encircle the enemy in left-bank Ukraine. Presumably, Moscow thought it could attain these goals by May or June. The Russian offensive in the Izyum area, started in mid-March, was stepped up in April. The initial plan was seemingly to reach the rear of the Ukrainian Severodonetsk grouping, via Slavyansk, and then press on with a more ambitious and large-scale offensive towards Zaporozhye, to be met by Russian forces in the south. Subsequently, offensive operations began in several more parts of Kharkov Region and the LPR.
However, the Russian forces faced a severe shortage of manpower and materiel. After the withdrawal of part of the battalion tactical groups for replenishment in Russia, in mid-April 2022, its armed forces had no more than a hundred depleted BTGs on the entire length of the front line, while BTGs were redeployed from the north piecemeal, which could not provide sufficient strength. Meanwhile, Ukraine launched its third wave of mobilization in March 2022 to call up the graduates of reserve-officer training departments at universities and men who had not previously served In the army, thus bringing the overall strength of its armed forces to 400,000 troops by mid-April, not counting those already in training, and to 600,000 by the end of May. Ukrainian forces thus came to substantially outnumber the combined Russian, DPR, LPR, and PMC forces, now carrying out an offensive against an even more numerically superior enemy.
The battle of Mariupol, from 2 March to 16 May 2022, was an important factor in the first stage of hostilities. The siege of the city became a harbinger of the future positional nature of the war and tied up the 30,000-strong group of “allied forces,” largely preventing Russia from building on its success in the south or advancing near Donetsk. The Russian offensive near Izyum was also slow and difficult due to the lack of numerical superiority. Instead of being encircled, the enemy was merely forced to retreat at the tactical level. In early May 2022, the Russian forces ran into serious difficulties and sustained losses as they tried to cross the Seversky Donets near Belogorovka, at which point it became clear that “traditional” methods of massing forces did not work in this war. By July 2022, after the seizure of Lisichansk, the Russian offensive had run out of steam. Almost the entire territory of the LPR and the eastern part of the Kharkov Region were held by the Russian troops, but Ukraine still controlled most of the DPR. The Russian troops could not even reach Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. The campaign had worn out the Russian force, which was basically the same contingent that entered Ukraine in February 2022, while Ukraine had commenced “permanent mobilization,” reinforcing its numerical superiority.

Read the rest at the link.

Posted by: S | Apr 7 2024 14:37 utc | 9

So clearly this is a regime that has no respect for diplomatic immunity or diplomacy in general.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 13:31 utc | 2
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Most regimes are secular (lacking a firm moral foundation) pragmatists.
Israel just bombed an embassy. We like to believe there are all of these rules and courts and rights. It all works as long as everyone agrees to do it. The moment someone wants to get their way, if they have the means to do so, they do it.
History is replete with this stuff.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 14:45 utc | 10

There was once a barflea at the bar. Many barflies know who I’m talking about. He hated everyone and called them names. He used to write long gibberish posts about everything with copious cut and paste from other sites to boot. His favorite topic: war with Iran. He wrote more than an encyclopedia’s worth of words on the subject. Two things were always glaring in his writings on the subject: 1) that Iran must be blamed for the start of the war — the west must make sure of that, narrative wise, and 2) it would start at Bekka valley (I forget why now — some sort of eschatological BS I guess.)
Well, he must be rolling in his grave (is he still alive?) now. Re no. 1, the west attacked a sovereign Iranian consulate (Iranian soil) in Syria — e.g. a casus beli. The words “retaliatory strikes” must kill him, if he’s not already dead. As to item 2, we shall see.
Also, when and if Iran does start the war, it will have the backing of two super-powers.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 7 2024 14:47 utc | 11

Re: – Edward Luttwak: Time to Send NATO Troops – Simplicius.
This story glosses over the fact that Putin has already stated that if the Ukraine Fake War starts going pear-shaped for Russia, Russia will respond with Nukes – without further warning.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2024 14:00 utc | 4
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I don’t think that is exactly right. Nukes can be used independently of the Ukraine war. If someone invades Russian territory (threatens the state) nukes can be used. That can be China, America, or anyone.
The policy and his statement are NOT Ukraine-specific. The whole point of confronting NATO is the threat it poses to the Russian state through many countries.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 14:52 utc | 12

LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 14:45
Two things can be equally true: yes, there are many examples of diplomatic and embassy offices not being respected as they traditionally are supposed to be; but it is also still (and always has been) seen utterly uncivilized behavior to do so, justifying severe repercussions.
But utterly uncivilized and Israel are synonymous words, so …

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2024 14:55 utc | 13

Five simultaneous attacks on Iranian military bases last night, if that’s payback….bitchin’ dude!
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 7 2024 14:56 utc | 14

Posted by: Moonie | Apr 7 2024 14:27 utc | 7
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It’s called escalation management. It is responsible behavior, which is why the juvenile and mentally ill Western regimes test it constantly.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 14:59 utc | 15

Pepe Escobar announces the coming-out of his latest book, Eurasia v. NATOstan: The Defining Struggle of Our Time, in a conversation during a recent New Rules talk show that’s linked here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 15:00 utc | 16

Embassy Schmbassy….moot points, the US has shown the World how Sovereign nations deal with Embassy Schmbassys….whatcha gonna do call…..hmmm, well who do you call.
Cheers M
Bonus that Russia tapped two jihadi bases outside Al Tanf, shortly after the jihadis left the US base there.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 7 2024 15:02 utc | 17

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2024 14:55 utc | 13
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Israel is no less civilized than the UK or America. All of those regimes have been engaged in colonization, slavery, and genocide.
It’s just that Israel is the most recent example so there is a recency bias.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 15:03 utc | 18

” It’s called escalation management. It is responsible behavior, which is why the juvenile and mentally ill Western regimes test it constantly.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 14:59 utc | 15 ”
I guess openly attacking a US military with missiles and causing numerous ” traumatic brain injuries ” among US troops was responsible behavior then. However, retaliating against an obvious, out of control entity, who blatantly broke all diplomatic protocols is crazy talk. Got it, understood.

Posted by: Moonie | Apr 7 2024 15:07 utc | 19

” but it is also still (and always has been) seen utterly uncivilized behavior to do so, justifying severe repercussions.
But utterly uncivilized and Israel are synonymous words, so …
Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2024 14:55 utc | 13 ”
Iran 1979 ?

Posted by: Moonie | Apr 7 2024 15:09 utc | 20

Posted by: Moonie | Apr 7 2024 15:07 utc | 19
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Don’t confuse pragmatism with morality. It’s a silly and childish approach to the discussion.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 15:20 utc | 21

“Posted by: Moonie | Apr 7 2024 14:27 utc | 7
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It’s called escalation management. It is responsible behavior, which is why the juvenile and mentally ill Western regimes test it constantly.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 14:59 utc | 15
Exactly!

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 15:22 utc | 22

Moonie | Apr 7 2024 15:09
Iran, 1979? The US embassy takeover? Takeover of the location from which the coup of ’53 had been organized and led?
Yes, it was still wrong. The embassy staff should have been kicked out instead. Notice that not a single person was killed, however, as opposed to last week?

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2024 15:25 utc | 23

S@9….that’s gonna cause some colon spasmatics…must look for my Wellies.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 7 2024 15:26 utc | 24

I clicked through Simplicius’s link to Luttwak’s article on the Unherd website and was pleasantly surprised to see every single comment skewered that neocon shitbag. They just love sending other peoples children to die to make the world safe for their plunder.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 15:31 utc | 25

thanks b and to the astute posters here for the additional insights and links..
i think if iran was to do anything – taking out netanyahu would be cause for celebration across the board… if they could do it, they would be making a lot of people happy..this guy is the number 1 bad guy here.. that’s my take… everyone would be happy, including israelis!
@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 13:31 utc | 2
cbc has an article on it, so it isn’t completely suppressed in the western oligarch news… i guess equator is usa’s new bitch in south america and at this point, most of latin america has had enough of this bullshit.. kudos to the leader of mexico – he is an actual leader, something we in the west know little about!!
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anyone heard of this guy dr. sharma? thoughts? this link might mess my whole post up if it doesn’t go thru b’s filters!
The Swarm – HOW the Few Control the Many. What WE Do to Break Free.

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2024 15:32 utc | 26

Read the rest at the link.
Posted by: S | Apr 7 2024 14:37 utc | 9
A very clear understanding of this war. When I saw the West easily sending so much war materiel unchallenged into Ukraine and also when measuring the extensive length of the main front line that would have to be defeated. . .
. . . the talk of Russia never running out of missiles seemed unlikely propaganda considering the permeability of Ukraine’s borders and the long-prepared fortified battlefront. And I’m interpreting ‘missiles’ to mean more generally Russia’s military might. This war should have been a strong Russian victory. Why did Russia hesitate?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Apr 7 2024 15:40 utc | 27

Remarks by Canada’s Conservative opposition leader to a Jewish constituency in Quebec has made the rounds and should finish off his candidacy but probably won’t.
His enthusiastic descriptions of witnessing fighting between IDF and Hezbollah in 2006, from a vantage in occupied Golan Heights, has raised eyebrows: “”We literally witnessed with our own eyes Hezbollah lobbing missiles into northern Israel and the courageous IDF forces flying back into south Lebanon to retaliate against the attack…” He takes credit for helping to “criminalize” Hezbollah in Canada.
But the following statement is most problematic:
“The Jewish people are the only people I know of who, in the same language, worship the same faith on the same land in the same country as they did 3,000 years ago. That is a true indigenous people,” Poilievre said to applause and cheers.”
The “only” people? “True” indigenous people?
From my perch in the Pacific Northwest, artifacts from the local indigenous peoples have been dated some 3500 to 4000 years. A settlement on the Washington State side of the Juan de Fuca Strait, across from the southern tip of Vancouver island, has been dated to about 13000 years ago.
Poilievre’s insensitivity and lack of basic historic knowledge revealed while celebrating the exceptionalism and martial prowess of (white) peoples on the other side of the planet should be a magnet of controversy. It will probably be buried.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pierre-poilievre-middle-east-synagogue-1.7160436

Posted by: jayc | Apr 7 2024 15:41 utc | 28

Thankfully the geriatric goldbug has failed to derail the thread and only minimal unnecessary back-and-forth sniping is going on…so far.
I don’t care what anyone has to say about morals, ethics, or any of that. The fact is that every nation on Earth besides South Sudan and Palau are signatories to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, and this includes Ecuador, Mexico, Israel, Syria and Iran.
I’m seeing a lot of veiled “might makes right” here in comments too, although it’s coming from a cynical “well, what’cha gonna do when one side has all the money, guns and men?” but that doesn’t change the fact that not even Uncle Scam the world’s biggest bully and hypocrite has so flagrantly, violently and fatally violated the diplomatic convention/treaty with another country. Soleimani, unfortunately, was not within the sanctified confines of a diplomatic mission (i.e., embassy building) although I’m sure Iran has quite a case to make in front of the bewigged freaks in whatever EU (or NYC?) court decides such thing.
Someone mentioned Iran 1979. LOL. That was less an embassy than a staging center for CIA spooks and hub to distribute payments to the Shah’s compradors. Later evidence proved this and since the country had just undergone a revolution, the new government was not yet party to the Geneva convention (assuming I’m correct on that).
Israel and Ecuador seem to have forgotten what the Vienna Convention is, or just don’t care. These are both tiny countries, and the only reason anyone cares about the first one is their nukes, which are in violation of the NPT. Seeing a theme here?
The Iranians are smart and patient. But being too patient sends the wrong message. Not to me or anyone on this blog, but to the Iranian people and the families of government workers and diplomats everywhere.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 15:41 utc | 29

KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 15:31 utc | 25–
Here’s the comment I made to the Simplicius item:
If Ukraine “falls,” how is “NATO defeated” since Ukraine isn’t a NATO member? Isn’t this really beyond NATO and all about the Outlaw US Empire’s gambit against Russia and China? I would say the latter’s correct and Luttwak is lying as all Zionists do. So, why is he lying? To get NATO members to salvage the Empire’s gambit? I would say that’s that real reason for his lies. And to carry that further, what does that say about how Zionists view Russia? IMO, it ought to tell Russia that the Zionist’s supposed friendship with Russia is a massive lie, which leaves Russia in a pickle because of the constitutional duty to protect Russians overseas. So, how does Russia solve the pickle? IMO, it needs to send a message to those Russians within Occupied Palestine that they must return home, move elsewhere, or be declared traitors to the Motherland for adhering to the Zionist hatred of Russia, of which much evidence exists for that hatred.
That accomplished, Russia and China could then use their forces to enforce the recent UNSCRs demands to halt the Gaza conflict and R2P Gazans and aid workers.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 15:42 utc | 30

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 15:31 utc | 25
What is UNHERD anyway? I don’t remember ever seeing it a few years ago and now it seems like every time I follow a link with a neocon sounding headline it takes me to that shithole. And the comments there are straight outta Freepers ca. 2002-2004.
Who runs that s(h)ite?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 15:45 utc | 31

One thing to keep in mind re: Iran’s retaliatory strike on the illegal US base in Iraq is that the official story reeks of bullshit. Anyone who thinks that it was actually phoned in ahead of time (Iran to D.C.) and that there were no deaths is fooling themselves. First we were told no injuries. Then reports of some headaches started trickling out. Then numerous concussions, then something like a hundred bad concussions.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/dod-covered-up-deaths-us-special-forces-soldiers-2020-iran-strike-us-airbase/287009/
The US is covering up deaths for PR purposes. Criticize the MintPress article if you want for relying on one human source and cross-checking it with publicly available data, but it fits with a pattern. That’s another example of how much Uncle Scam cares about the actual people (aka missile fodder) he sends overseas. To the psychopaths at the Pentagon and Langley, it’s all about the spin, not about actually winning battles, let alone wars.
The moral of this story? Iran has much more leeway to retaliate against Israel than people are giving them here. The one thing I will concede is that unlike the US which is an attack dog for the MIC/finance capital, Israel is a *rabid* dog with nukes. So the answer for the Damascus embassy attack must be of a nature to avoid getting rabies.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 15:53 utc | 32

@ jayc | Apr 7 2024 15:41 utc | 28
the guy is an ignoramus, but most canucks aren’t all that bright either, so it’s a recipe for vote getting for him and maybe he really is that ignorant… oh well…. we have horrible choices for leaders here in canada.. i am voting maxime bernier…

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2024 16:08 utc | 33

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 15:45 utc | 31
unherd is brit as memory serves and i share your viewpoint on it too…pure crap.. well, maybe it is aussie, but i think it is brit..
lets get wikipedias word on it, lol..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnHerd

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2024 16:09 utc | 34

That accomplished, Russia and China could then use their forces to enforce the recent UNSCRs demands to halt the Gaza conflict and R2P Gazans and aid workers.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 15:42 utc | 30
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How does that create a Palestinian state (which involves clawing back territory from Israel)?
The reason, IMO, why so many Palestinians were sacrificed in this gambit by Hamas was for a sovereign Palestine, period. To stop having generations born and trapped in the camps, not to mention the creeping genocide of their ethnic group.
Everyone else needs to stay out until Hamas requests help. No matter how well-intentioned they may be.
Every suggestion I see within this sphere of commentary by laymen usually ends in Israel continuing in a diminished form but persisting nonetheless. It is ok to want a fascist Nazi state bent on genocide and fanaticism to end. It is not kind or tolerant to support a diminished Israeli nation. It would be more death for the Palestinians, and eventually the Lebanese, the Jordanians, the Iranians, the Syrians, etc.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:16 utc | 35

LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:16 utc | 35
The distinction to make is between Israel and the settlement of Jewish people- the remains of the Zionist project.
Certainly Israel as a racist settler colonial project must be ended: it is a stench in the nostrils of humanity. But the rights of settlers and the great grandchildren of settlers to remain in Palestine will need to be protected: to expel all Jews would be no better than to expel all Muslims and Christians.
This is not to say that there will not be many problems arising from a settlement with justice- there must be but most of them are susceptible to solutions provided that the present capitalist system, built on the ruins of the semi-feudal Ottoman extractive system and British colonial rule, is replaced by a democratic dispensation.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 15:42 utc | 30
Hey Karl,
What do you think is it that drives the neocon/zionist blind hatred of all things Russian? Yes, historically there were pogroms in Russia (as in much of Eastern Europe), but Russia/USSR was not responsible for the Holocaust of Jews in WWII. Is it former Trotskyists still holding a grudge about Stalinist purges? Or, is it they got the taste of blood in their mouths when the Soviet Union collapsed and still want in on the kind of grift they had in the 90s? I don’t quite understand it.
The idea of giving Russian Jews in Israel an ultimatum is interesting. It seems to presuppose that their primary loyalty is to Russia and not Israel. I don’t know enough to opine on that but would like to hear more about it.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 16:40 utc | 37

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 7 2024 13:18 utc | 1
As well the claim that Russian youth don’t want to sign up be need to the Russian Young men who are signing up in their hundreds of thousands. But I suppose no Western article can be published without writing that kind of rubbish.
What do you mean, “signing up”? Military service is mandatory in Russia, just as it has been for decades. But not every person doing the mandatory year of service goes straight to Ukraine.

Posted by: Inka | Apr 7 2024 16:41 utc | 38

The “How To Read Wars” rubbish claims Russian paratroopers were massacred, which will be need to Russian paratroopers. As well the claim that Russian youth don’t want to sign up be need to the Russian Young men who are signing up in their hundreds of thousands. But I suppose no Western article can be published without writing that kind of rubbish.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 7 2024 13:18 utc | 1
Just read it. I tend to agree. On the larger scale, it’s just aimless and filled with despair, which reflects an identification with US imperialism.
I mentioned it before but the RC needs to coop some alt media to subtley move the narrative back to something it can work with in pursuing WW3. This article is a good example of the hopelessness strategy. Just as imperialism is reaching a world historic crisis and opportunities for real change emerge, we get the phoney left gloom and doom.
There’s nothing left about this article. Concern for war victims? Biden expresses this in relation to Gaza everyday. The only thing in this that seemed wedged in just to appear left was his throw away line about how anybody who might actually want to resist the empire should try Maoism and avoid Lenin.
Using Tigray as an example, he says the Leninists in the city got captured and killed, but the maoist move to guerrilla work in the mountains did well.
This is another dead give away, the guy identifies with imperialism. The Mao “strategy” was promoted by Che Guevara and pitted Latin American youth against organized armies. The former were totally crushed by this losing strategy in country after country.
They rejected the “Leninists” focus on building an educated working class cadre and went straight for a fight with the military using idealistic farm boys and got what one would expect.
That this guy is pushing Maoist turns to the peasants (do they still exist) and hiding in the jungle is very unusual and suspicious. Again, he wants to throw cold water on the idea of winning educated city workers to a revolutionary class struggle. That’s the Leninism he dismisses after a few paragraphs.
This journal is interesting too. In the mid 90s it was started by Thomas Frank as sort of a cultural critique of the west, US in particular. It was amusing.
I found a copy of it in Obama era and took a look. It was nothing thinly veiled Dem propaganda. That obviously won’t work anymore so we get the “realist” Dolan who is willing to concede a few points more on Russia than the average msm stooge, then claims to speak for the left, then encourages Maoism of all things.
Me thinks the Baffler of the 90s is never coming back and it’s just another fake left agency of the Dems.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 16:44 utc | 39

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 15:45 utc | 31
Hi Tom,
I think Unherd is a London-based outfit. Their mission statement says they are about being a platform for free-thinking/ open exchange of ideas. The writers seem to run the gamut from an ideological standpoint, which is okay by me. I don’t mind reading perspectives I don’t agree with, as long as they’re well argued. Doesn’t mean I will necessarily change my point of view, but if it makes me think…cool.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 16:45 utc | 40

“But the rights of settlers and the great grandchildren of settlers to remain in Palestine will need to be protected: to expel all Jews would be no better than to expel all Muslims and Christians.”
Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36
The Muslims and the Christians in Israel aren’t performing Genocide- the Jews are; that’s the fucking difference!!
According to recent polls 90% of Israelis support the Gazan Genocide so they are Zionists and as far as I’m concerned they have forfeited the right of a Jewish state in Palestine.
Again your apologia for Israeli Jews is quite disturbing.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 16:53 utc | 41

The transcript of the Mercouris, Hudson, Deissen(?) discussion is a treasure trove of arguments for a new society.
Here for example, the effects of the contuing ravages of neo-liberalism, which is to say fundamentalist capitalism, are spelled out. And the arguments are as true of Canada and the UK as they are of the United States. In fact the effects of the massive re-privatisation movement in the UK and Canada are much worse- the United States never having gone as far in the creation of a nationalised sector as the other countries its privatised economy is still regulated by the remnants of the Progressive era and New Deal regime.
In the UK in particular Thatcher and Blair (Brown emptied the Bank of England’s vaults and sold the gold reserves at about a tenth of the current price) privatised without any understanding of the inevitable consequences to the services involved- as true believers in capitalism they felt that the market would solve all problems as they arose: the result of which is rivers and lakes full of human excrement and other sewage, rail travel that few can afford and rocketing utility prices all of which combine with price inflation and a toothless Trade Union movement to cut living standards and push people towards the revolution that even ultra Tories like Mercouris are predicting.
“..the United States can’t reindustrialize like it could then because it’s already overloaded its economy with financialization, corporate debt, personal debt, and privatized medical care, privatized education.
“The economic overhead of getting a job here and the pay that workers have to get, not simply to eat and get clothes but for medical insurance, for debt service, prices America out of the market. So it really has no alternative but to be autarkic. But it can’t be autarkic because nobody can see how it can reindustrialize…”
What Hudson is talking about here is an economy that refuses to take-for the public good, the common wealth- the solutions (actually endorsed by Adam Smith) which lead to social control of the commanding heights.
“..…economists love to use the word self-correcting, because if economies are self-correcting, you don’t need a government. You can just have the private sector running the economy. And in practice, that means Wall Street.
“But there’s no way that the American economy can be self-correcting without a few decades of new investment. You’d have to reinvent the educational system. You would have to take public health into the, health care into the public domain so that you could lower the cost of living so that employers wouldn’t have to pay such high wages. You’d have to provide freer education so that workers don’t graduate into the labor force with so much debt that they need high enough wages to pay the debt. And even so, can’t afford to buy houses….”
As Hudson points out, call this what you choose but it isn’t neo-liberal fundamentalist capitalism as preached by Hayek, von Mises and the Chicago school. It is what most people realise is common sense and the Chinese call socialism.
As Karl Polanyi-who knew the Austrian School economists of old- understood the kind of capitalism practised and preached by the neo-liberals, who completely dominate western society, can only lead to social disaster. Either revolution or, more likely in the immediate term given the intellectual desolation produced by generations of imperialist indoctrination, a fascist seizure of power. Which is pretty much what happened the last time that capitalism imploded after the 1929 crash- 95 years ago this Fall.
The article as a whole is worth reading-and reading is so much better than listening to or watching the video. The subject of the discussion was also examined at Karl’s substack yesterday.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:54 utc | 42

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36
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You are making my point that people in this space are not serious about establishing a sovereign Palestinian state.
Why are Jews entitled to settlement at all? Shouldn’t that be 100% at the discretion of the Palestinian people and those they choose to represent them?
Jewish settlers, many of whom are far from peaceful or innocent (kibbutzes are quasi-military outposts) are not the cohort I am focused on right now. It sucks, as racism sucks in general, but those Zionists have ruined it for many otherwise decent pious Jews. And it seems to me, that most of the pious Jews live outside of Israel and are in no rush to move back because that hour is not yet here.
And it’s not just about the Palestinians or land. What about all of the Iranians, Syrians, and Lebanese that the Zionists have killed, and the settlers have support if not directly, then tacitly?
It doesn’t end until Israel is gone and the earth is salted. Then individual Jews can apply to the Palestinian people to immigrate. Like Ukraine needs to ban Nazism, Palestine will need to ban Zionism and block the entrance of known Zionists at all ports of entry.
That’s if we’re serious about the Palestinian people and not emoting or virtue signaling.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:57 utc | 43

A helpful essay on the history of “maoist” guerrilla tactics.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1998/01/cast-j07.html
“Behind their radical rhetoric, these movements have definite conceptions about all these questions. Invariably, they are directed at suppressing the independent revolutionary struggle of the proletariat, and subordinating the oppressed masses as a whole to the needs of the national bourgeoisie.
In this sense, no matter how radical these movements may appear, they are, in the final analysis, one of the last bulwarks of imperialism against the socialist revolution. It is this essential nature of petty-bourgeois nationalism and guerrillaism which provides a key to understanding the ease with which capitalism has appropriated the image of Che for its own purposes.
If one examines carefully the politics of the Peruvian MRTA and the Mexican Zapatistas, they are merely a different manifestation of the accommodation with imperialism carried out by all bourgeois nationalist regimes and movements. The Tupac Amaru group seized the Japanese ambassador’s residence with the aim of pressuring Japanese imperialism to exert influence over the Fujimori regime to soften its policy. The group’s ultimate aim, communicated to some of the hostages, was to force a negotiated settlement through which it could transform itself from an armed movement into a legal petty-bourgeois political party.
As for the Zapatista movement, it has been universally hailed precisely because it has, from the beginning, renounced any revolutionary aims. The vague demands of Subcomandante Marcos have been for democratization, an end to corruption and increased cultural rights for the indigenous population. These demands could and have been embraced not only by the petty-bourgeois left, but by sections of the ruling PRI and even the right-wing opposition party, PAN. Marcos and the Zapatistas, rather than providing a revolutionary road forward for the Mexican workers and oppressed peasantry, have been converted into another instrument for settling political accounts within the Mexican bourgeoisie.”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 16:59 utc | 44

canuck@41
I think what you mean is that you are disturbed, as indeed you must be if you regard my viewpoint, shared yesterday at an Al Quds event in which anti-zionist Jews and Palestinians marched together, as support for genocide.
If genocide really disturbed you you would have better uses for your time than misrepresenting the views of others on the internet.
There: another troll fed!

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 17:01 utc | 45

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 15:31 utc | 25
I clicked through Simplicius’s link to Luttwak’s article on the Unherd website and was pleasantly surprised to see every single comment skewered that neocon shitbag. They just love sending other peoples children to die to make the world safe for their plunder.
Putin has sent so many Russian soldiers to the explicit purpose of dying in the “meat grinder” strategy to achieve his plunder of Ukraine.

Posted by: Inka | Apr 7 2024 17:09 utc | 46

Posted by: Inka | Apr 7 2024 17:09 utc | 46
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Did Putin negotiate the two Minsk agreements and try to negotiate with Ukraine in Turkey because he wanted to “plunder” the country?
I’ll understand if you don’t know the history but if you do, that’s a shamefully dishonest post to make.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 17:16 utc | 47

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:16 utc | 35

…The reason, IMO, why so many Palestinians were sacrificed in this gambit by Hamas was for a sovereign Palestine, period. To stop having generations born and trapped in the camps, not to mention the creeping genocide of their ethnic group.

As I observe the desolation wrought on Gaza, the ever tightening grip on the West Bank, and the implicit acquiescence by Israel’s benefactors, my impression is that a sovereign Palestine has never been more distant.

Everyone else needs to stay out until Hamas requests help. No matter how well-intentioned they may be…

My view is the exact opposite and I don’t expect any hope for Palestine as long as the West remains resolutely pro Israel. Now, an informed electorate could completely upend Western position, but this is dependant on full narrative sovereignty. If anything, the reaction to the escalating belligerence in the region tells us where we stand today.

Posted by: robin | Apr 7 2024 17:32 utc | 48

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 17:01 utc | 45
“But the rights of settlers and the great grandchildren of settlers to remain in Palestine will need to be protected: to expel all Jews would be no better than to expel all Muslims and Christians.”
Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36
The latest poll shows that ninety percent (90%) of Israelis support the Gazan war and ,even more Satanic, seventy-two per cent (72%) of Israelis feel Israel should stop “all and any humanitarian aid into Gaza” (1)
Yet, your stance is for the Israeli Jews and their grandchildren to remain in Palestine.
In this dire circumstance identifying you as an ‘apologist’ is , in fact, actually a charitable act; I could easily have placed a much more severe [and more accurate descriptor, editor} moniker upon yourself and I am confident many posters are thinking the same thing.
1.”Alarmingly, 72 per cent of the 503 respondents said “the entry of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip must be stopped until the Israeli prisoners are released,” with only 21 per cent saying aid should continue to enter Gaza.” (2)
2. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240131-72-of-israelis-say-aid-deliveries-to-gaza-must-be-stopped-survey-finds/

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:38 utc | 49

“Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36
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You are making my point that people in this space are not serious about establishing a sovereign Palestinian state.
Why are Jews entitled to settlement at all? Shouldn’t that be 100% at the discretion of the Palestinian people and those they choose to represent them?
Jewish settlers, many of whom are far from peaceful or innocent (kibbutzes are quasi-military outposts) are not the cohort I am focused on right now. It sucks, as racism sucks in general, but those Zionists have ruined it for many otherwise decent pious Jews. And it seems to me, that most of the pious Jews live outside of Israel and are in no rush to move back because that hour is not yet here.
And it’s not just about the Palestinians or land. What about all of the Iranians, Syrians, and Lebanese that the Zionists have killed, and the settlers have support if not directly, then tacitly?
It doesn’t end until Israel is gone and the earth is salted. Then individual Jews can apply to the Palestinian people to immigrate. Like Ukraine needs to ban Nazism, Palestine will need to ban Zionism and block the entrance of known Zionists at all ports of entry.
That’s if we’re serious about the Palestinian people and not emoting or virtue signaling.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:57 utc | 43
Superb rebuttal.
bevin is a Zionist apologist.
Period.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:44 utc | 50

The resident Marxists here are going to have to upshift into 6th or 7th gear to pluck the extreme rhetoric required to explain the below which places their hero, Marx, in a ‘sticky wicket’:
“When the U.S. annexed California after the Mexican-American War, Marx wrote: “Without violence nothing is ever accomplished in history.” Then he asked, “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?” Friedrich Engels added: “In America we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it. It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will be placed under the tutelage of the United States.” Many of Marx’s racist ideas were reported in “Karl Marx, Racist” a book written by Nathaniel Weyl, a former member of the U.S. Communist Party.
In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx’s son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had “one eighth or one twelfth nigger blood.” In an April 1887 letter to Paul’s wife, Engels wrote, “Being in his quality as a nigger, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.”
Followers of Karl Marx often don’t know the real history, Walter Williams contends.
Marx’s anti-Semitic views were no secret. In 1844, he published an essay titled “On the Jewish Question.” He wrote that the worldly religion of Jews was “huckstering” and that the Jew’s god was “money.” Marx’s view of Jews was that they could only become an emancipated ethnicity or culture when they no longer exist. Just one step short of calling for genocide, Marx said, “The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way.” “(1)
1. https://www.newsherald.com/story/opinion/2020/08/16/many-marxists-dont-realize-their-hero-racist-and-anti-semite/3369024001/

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:50 utc | 51

Talks in Cairo very shaky and doomed to fail.

Posted by: AI | Apr 7 2024 17:54 utc | 52

Posted by: robin | Apr 7 2024 17:32 utc | 48
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Imagine you’re a Palestinian born in the camps. Your children were born in the camps. What is your strategy to achieve a sovereign Palestine for your children’s safety and prosperity?
On Oct 5th last year Israel was embedding itself deeper into the Arab economic sphere in a process that started with the Abraham Accords and was headed towards an Indian trade corridor with KSA and UAE. That has all been scrapped now. The Israeli domestic economy is in tatters today with a sea blockade courtesy of Ansarallah.
Everything changed on Oct 7th. That was what Hamas did. They shattered the status quo. Yes, many innocents have died. Palestinians were already dying (slowly and miserably), now they are dying for a purpose with the potential of changing the world for their family and people.
If you don’t see what has changed, then perhaps more research is in order. Israel hasn’t been this weak in decades.
Hopefully weak enough to disappear forever.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53

@Inka 38
Contrary to nonsense reported in the western press, which seems to confuse Russian and Ukrainian manpower practices, the Russian twice yearly conscription (about 140k young men each in spring and fall) gives the male population some ultra minimal training, so that there is a basis for future mobilization.
There was a combination of mobilization, 300k reported in fall 2022. This consisted in significant part of former soldiers, i.e. more than the minimal training described above, and was supplemented with recruitment for volunteers (100k+ order of magnitude), plus a chunk of manpower from the prison system by offering early release.
Western media typically just repeats Kiev’s wild claims. More credible reporting has many or even most Russian forces deployed today actually coming from signing (or re-signing) contracts, which they do for a combination of patriotism and good pay – although the RU economy is running with full employment due to broad re-industrialization and import substitution work, so the factor of financial desperation has vanished.
Russian former soldiers’ willingness to volunteer for the war, totally contrary to the West’s expectations, has a lot to do with some very poor choices made by NATO and Kiev to focus their limited arsenal of ranged weapons on “vengeance strikes” in hopes of provoking Russia to escalate in a way they think create political justification for NATO to … pull a rabbit out of the had, or more realistically another $100 billion out of their bank account. But in practice, Kiev’s targeting choices just provoke tit-for-tat exchanges, which do nothing of operational significance, but leave Ukraine short of important infrastructure they can’t rebuild.

Posted by: pxx | Apr 7 2024 18:04 utc | 54

My view is the exact opposite and I don’t expect any hope for Palestine as long as the West remains resolutely pro Israel. Now, an informed electorate could completely upend Western position, but this is dependant on full narrative sovereignty. If anything, the reaction to the escalating belligerence in the region tells us where we stand today.
Posted by: robin | Apr 7 2024 17:32 utc | 48
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I can imagine this is a matter of perspective. Involving other parties, particularly Axis of Resistance parties directly, will invite America to step in and “protect Israel” from Iran/Russia/China/whoever.
And that may finally shatter the dream of an independent and sovereign Palestine.
For the same reasons that Russia shouldn’t overreact to Ukraine’s terrorist tactics, Hamas needs to handle this until they can’t. Right now, Israel is on the ropes against a militia formed and trained inside of a concentration camp under Israeli surveillance.
Hamas has already requested other parties to let them deal with this. And Hamas is the most popular by leaps and bounds political entity among Palestinians globally.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:05 utc | 55

to expel all Jews would be no better than to expel all Muslims and Christians.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2024 16:24 utc | 36
Expel all the khazars who have nothing to do with the middle east in the first place. Which is more than 90% of “israelis”.
Besides, after the jews’ inhuman behaviour all these millennia, expelling them is not the same as expelling some other group… Yes, there is a minority of jews who behave, and they’ve lived, and continue to life, peacefully in many other middle eastern countries. They probably want nothing to do with “israel”.

Posted by: Michael A | Apr 7 2024 18:09 utc | 56

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 15:45 utc | 31
The only reason I go to unherd is to read some of Malcom Kyeyune’s writing.
I first became aware of MK from his article Farewell to the Bourgeois Kings, which was written in 2021 just after the “withdrawal” from Afghanistan. The man writes very well, and he makes you think. Yes, his slant is rightwing, but he is historically literate with some unusual takes. He sees woke as the fulfillment on Daniel Burnham’s managerialism.

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 7 2024 18:10 utc | 57

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 7 2024 18:10 utc | 57
RE: rightwing slant – Really, I forgot just how rightwing.
He opens F2BK with a quote from Carl Schmitt. Shmitt was an unrepentant Nazi judge who fell out with Hitler, but was protected by Goering. He lived to be 96, dying in 1985.

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 7 2024 18:19 utc | 58

Imagine you’re a Palestinian born in the camps. Your children were born in the camps. What is your strategy to achieve a sovereign Palestine for your children’s safety and prosperity?
On Oct 5th last year Israel was embedding itself deeper into the Arab economic sphere in a process that started with the Abraham Accords and was headed towards an Indian trade corridor with KSA and UAE. That has all been scrapped now. The Israeli domestic economy is in tatters today with a sea blockade courtesy of Ansarallah.
Everything changed on Oct 7th. That was what Hamas did. They shattered the status quo. Yes, many innocents have died. Palestinians were already dying (slowly and miserably), now they are dying for a purpose with the potential of changing the world for their family and people.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53
Excellent, thank you! (I just bolded a couple of phrases for those who question Hamas’ strategy.)

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 7 2024 18:50 utc | 59

waynorinorway@59….”dying for a purpose” “to change the world” those would be good slogans for an Euthanasia campaign.
As for those doing the dying, easy peasy for those thousands of miles away.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 7 2024 19:18 utc | 60

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 7 2024 19:18 utc | 60
I think you’re missing the point of that quote from LoveDobass.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 19:27 utc | 61

Re the Luttwak clown and his ilk.
The Russia China joint statement and Russia’s mutual security proposals vs continued and expanded Anglo dominance. Lavrov’s hybrid war.
I tend to look at everything as being within this framework.
Matyanov (regardless of his quirks) – on economic power must be underpinned by military power seems correct. Also the mathematics of war. Russian military rapidly becoming the foremost battle hardened high tech military force.
Nato/Europe – for some centuries the foremost tech advanced part of the globe now second fiddle to the still rising Asian tiger.
Ukraine – When a fight is inevitable, Putin says strike first. Ukraine is the battlefield and is the time and place of Russia’s choosing. Everything else seems to be damped down. Russia China, Iran coordinated strategy. Iran with the mid east sphere…. Houthi, Hezbollah, Syria, and now perhaps Hamas playing its cards well. On the down side of this is the genocide in Gaza – the empire striking back at civilians – at a soft target. Terrorism on a massive scale.
b linked a few things in regards the Baltimore bridge. Woke Empire of Lies. Vastly different to an earlier America that was world leader in infrastructure building. Privatized, financialized, plus the sexual alphabet soup.
The big picture? No ‘big arrow’ moves by Russia China. Just steady methodical attrition. Both constantly gaining strength, empire constantly losing strength.
The hybrid war – a firebag? a constrictor slowly suffocating its prey? perhaps simply a war of astute attrition by RoW. The mathematics of war in all metrics, hybrid or plain old kinetic, hugely in favour of Russia China Iran.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 7 2024 19:28 utc | 62

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:50 utc | 51
The resident neo-Hitlerite baboon can’t make up his mind about Marx. So what is, brownshirt? Was Marx and his ideology a construct of the Jews for world domination, as you have repeatedly asserted in the past, or was he an anti-Jewish racist?
I mean, this is why this anti-communism combo with anti-Semitism has extremely harmful effects on one’s intellect (terminal in the case of “canuck”): Marx & Co are simultaneously a horrific product of Jewish subversive culture and an expression of intense anti-Jewish sentiment.
Have you informed your co-ideologues “JackG” and “Robert E. Smith” about your revelations? Who knows, if they take your newfound gems into heart, they might turn into their own version of Marxism.

Posted by: Constantine | Apr 7 2024 19:29 utc | 63

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 7 2024 19:18 utc | 60
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He was quoting me.
I don’t expect a nihilist to understand living a purposeful life with some dignity or honor.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 20:08 utc | 64

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:50 utc | 51
Well, that’s it boys. Canuck has found the Marx killing excerpt! Just throw all that Marxist rubbish on the bonfire.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 20:39 utc | 65

Followers of Karl Marx often don’t know the real history, Walter Williams contends.
Marx’s anti-Semitic views were no secret. In 1844, he published an essay titled “On the Jewish Question.” He wrote that the worldly religion of Jews was “huckstering” and that the Jew’s god was “money.” Marx’s view of Jews was that they could only become an emancipated ethnicity or culture when they no longer exist. Just one step short of calling for genocide, Marx said, “The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way.” “(1)
1. https://www.newsherald.com/story/opinion/2020/08/16/many-marxists-dont-realize-their-hero-racist-and-anti-semite/3369024001/
Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:50 utc | 51
My god! He was an antisemite! Canuck, what would we do without you?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 20:40 utc | 66

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:57 utc | 43
Superb rebuttal.
bevin is a Zionist apologist.
Period.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 17:44 utc | 50
Love makes some good points, as usual, but come on! We know Bevin around here. He’s no Zionist apologist.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 20:46 utc | 67

Palestinians were already dying (slowly and miserably), now they are dying for a purpose with the potential of changing the world for their family and people.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53
Thanks for that observation. It helps me, at least, to deal with the horror.

Posted by: Chas | Apr 7 2024 20:58 utc | 68

@Ahenobarbus and that canuck idiot
It’s not just that. How can somebody read a position like “maybe we don’t kill all Jews in return or in reverse ethnically cleanse them from these streches of land” as Zionist apologia? One would have to be a special kind of simpleton to see the world that exclusively black and white.
These “gotcha” questions in regard to Marx are not helping either, as if Marx would actually argue in favour of social chauvinism…

Posted by: Roland | Apr 7 2024 21:02 utc | 69

– Edward Luttwak: Time to Send NATO Troops – Simplicimus

Simplicimus – The Most Simple.
Fredian slip b? Or are you following on from Andrej Raevsky’s attack on Simplicius (and his compliments to you at the same time)??
Not sure why so many bloggers have it in for Simplicius – the more you write the more mistakes will get included. True of b & Raevsky even occasionally. The only thing I dislike is the idea that the readers aren’t smart enough to pick and choose the ideas they want to accept.

Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 7 2024 21:08 utc | 70

Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 7 2024 21:08 utc | 70
LOL. I noticed that this morning. I don’t think b dislikes or disrespects Simplicius the Thinker. Probably just a typo.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 21:14 utc | 71

Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 7 2024 21:08 utc | 70
P.S. where is Raevsky writing these days?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 21:15 utc | 72

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 18:00 utc | 53
Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 7 2024 18:50 utc | 59
Hamas launched the raid/escape to capture some prisoners to use in negotiations, being prepared to fight IDF along the way. What they encountered was entirely unexpected as they have said on video and in various Arabic language outlets in the months that followed.
The most I can accuse them of us falling into Israel’s trap and having their mission turned into a “Genocidal Rampage” where babies were raped and beheaded, hundreds of Israeli women were systematically sexually attacked, and Cookie Monster wearing a Hamas t-shirt came through the wall to steal all of the Kibbutzims’ cookies at knife point. And I’m sure all of that was just a huge coincidence and Mossad/Shin Bet/IDF (and the electronic, satellite, wall-top, human intel) were just completely, innocently unprepared for just that one particular day.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 21:20 utc | 73

Today, Administrator Samantha Power was in Bratislava, Slovakia, where she met with Slovak government leaders, activists, and citizens who have shown enormous generosity in helping Ukrainians forced to flee Putin’s unprovoked and brutal war. The Administrator met with Ukrainian refugees, as well as national and local officials, and civil society actors working to combat the Russian disinformation that stokes divisions and undermines democracy in Slovakia. Throughout her visit, the Administrator reaffirmed the strength of the U.S. Government’s partnership with the Slovak Republic, grounded in a shared commitment to advance democratic values and human rights. Tuesday, April 5, 2022
Yesterday, Pellegrini was elected as President of Slovakia, in part because of his support of the government formed after recent parliamentary elections, in particular, promising no more weapons for Ukraine.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 7 2024 21:28 utc | 74

Again, left wing = tyranny. Strange goings on in Brazil. Supreme Court Judge threatening to shut down X if/when they refuse to obey his unconstitutional censorship demands. Brazilians concerned….
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/breaking-elon-musk-calls-lawless-brazilian-supreme-court/

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 7 2024 22:05 utc | 75

Roland | Apr 7 2024 21:02 utc | 69
Even more ridiculous coming from a ‘canuck’ descendant of settler colonialism. When Palestine is free the Jewish settlers will be faced with a choice: Do I really love this land? Is this my true home? Or do I love Empire and Apartheid more and choose to leave rather than live in a democracy in equality with Palestinians?

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Apr 7 2024 22:19 utc | 76

P. Diddy (aka Sean Combs or Puff Daddy) may end up bringing down some prominent Israel-backing Zionists. And US celebrities & politicians.
https://realalexrubi.substack.com/p/zionist-music-exec-accused-of-footing?

Billionaire Zionist Lucian Grainge is the Chairman and CEO of Universal Music Group, the largest music company in the world. But since February, he and his company have also been named ” defendants” in a lawsuit against hip-hop impresario P Diddy, whose legal name is Sean Combs.
As one of the most influential figures in one of the most popular musical genres of this century, Combs has many friends. Yet, among his closest are an outsized number of influential Zionists.
Combs has been hit with five civil lawsuits in four months, while the Department of Homeland Security raided his homes in Miami and Los Angeles in late March. Said to have hundreds of cameras inside his properties, and, naturally, footage of politicians and music industry executives, Combs’ role in a potential sexual blackmail operation with links to the Israel lobby bears shocking resemblance to the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy.
One of the most powerful men in music with ties to the “Friends of the IDF” organization has been accused of financing and attending parties held by the artist, which featured trafficked, underage sex workers. Meanwhile, A-list actor Ashton Kutcher and other entertainment industry honchos close to Combs have maintained longstanding ties to the Israel lobby.

Always, always an Israeli Zionist connection to these pedo blackmail rings.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 22:30 utc | 77

These “gotcha” questions in regard to Marx are not helping either, as if Marx would actually argue in favour of social chauvinism…
Posted by: Roland | Apr 7 2024 21:02 utc | 69
Yep. And a good way to screen comments/commentators. Every single thread lately.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 22:32 utc | 78

Edward Luttwak: Time to Send NATO Troops – Simplicimus
Simplicimus – The Most Simple.
Fredian slip b? Or are you following on from Andrej Raevsky’s attack on Simplicius (and his compliments to you at the same time)??
Not sure why so many bloggers have it in for Simplicius – the more you write the more mistakes will get included. True of b & Raevsky even occasionally. The only thing I dislike is the idea that the readers aren’t smart enough to pick and choose the ideas they want to accept.
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 7 2024 21:08 utc | 70
I’ll tell you why: S man is better than those clowns, growing in popularity and still a pretty classy fellow.
B likes him. Trust me.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 22:33 utc | 79

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 7 2024 22:05 utc | 75
Always claiming that “left” and “right” don’t mean anything anymore; always being the one who continues to bring up the term “left” and equate it with tyranny.
I find it hard to imagine that some kind of Twitter ban is equivalent to the shit Bolsonaro was doing.
My take on Brasil (and Latin America post-Monroe Doctrine)? Talk to me when the leftists are proactively executing political foes, torturing them and getting support from the “democratically elected” government of the United States.
Free helicopter rides, this way —–>

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 22:35 utc | 80

bevin wrote upthread,
‘Certainly Israel as a racist settler colonial project must be ended: it is a stench in the nostrils of humanity. But the rights of settlers and the great grandchildren of settlers to remain in Palestine will need to be protected: to expel all Jews would be no better than to expel all Muslims and Christians.’
And I woud like to thank him very much for this wise and considered words. Great point!

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 7 2024 22:49 utc | 81

On the topic of Latin America, the US media and CIA: An interesting thread w/ video from Edward Snowden –
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1589606899569377282
In it, he asks his followers if they think the CIA still does this:
https://twitter.com/BankerWeimar/status/1581494718940467201

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 22:58 utc | 82

Does anyone have the link to the saker blog backup file? Looks like thesaker.is is done….even the frozen site doesnt load now.

Posted by: TGL | Apr 7 2024 23:06 utc | 83

Posted by: canuck | Apr 7 2024 16:53 utc | 41
Ethnicity is a metaphysical smokescreen that diverts attention away from social relations of class. When you talk of ‘Jews’ or anything else you participate in their identity politics BS, which is just a vacuous as LGBTI misdirection. Here’s a trick: if something is presented to you as an essential, universal, idealist or metaphysical basis for human society that sits outside of history and class relations, then it’s immediately ideological and superstition. There are no Jews, Palestinians, Arabs, whites, blacks, etc—just people. Do Zionists need to be resisted? Yes. Should we respond in kind with the same ethnic claptrap? No.
But look at me, arguing with Canuck as though he’d ever understand this realist position, let alone reflect on it and revise his own fantasies. ‘Geriatric goldbug’… that’s about right TQC. Gold must be valuable because it’s… well it’s gold, duh!

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 7 2024 23:09 utc | 84

LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 16:16 utc | 35–
Step by step. The Gaza Slaughter must be stopped first before the Zionist eviction can commence.
KMRIA | Apr 7 2024 16:40 utc | 37–
Thanks for your reply and queries. Russophobia is over 1,000 years old with roots in the Catholic/Orthodox schism. The rest is geopolitics, megalomania and pleonexia, which is the very short answer. The detailed answer takes a book.
Russia’s responsibility for the Russian diaspora is written into its constitution making it a pickle to “care for” those who don’t care for you–hate you even. The topic is rather complex and gets discussed often within government forums and Putin has expounded on it many times in his speeches over the last several years. The dilemma of “Ukrainians” being brotherly people to “Russians” is a case in point. The SMO is directly related to the constitution’s R2P requirement.
These answers merely scratch the surface of two very deep issues.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 23:39 utc | 85

a couple of observations:
Where is Raevsky/Saker writing now? He isn’t. He made it clear that he was retiring from blogging, implying that he feared for his and his family’s well being if he continued.
Where is his site now? Probably only in the Internet Archive. He did announce that it would remain live, if dormant, for about a year. That time is probably up now.
Oh, and “most simple” is, as anyone who knows Latin or Grimmelshausen can tell you, simplicissimus (in nominative masculine singular, that is).

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2024 0:16 utc | 86

@58 John brewster
re Malcom Kyeyune – Yeah. I forgot that’s the same person who sh#tposts on Twitter about the Houthis today, and does podcasts with Philip Pilkington

Posted by: pxx | Apr 8 2024 0:40 utc | 87

Step by step. The Gaza Slaughter must be stopped first before the Zionist eviction can commence.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2024 23:39 utc | 85
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Hamas (and by inference, Hezbollah, Iran, Russia, and China) disagree.
The slaughter stops for real when Israel is defeated and only Hamas (the Gazans) and the Islamic world can defeat the Zionists.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 0:43 utc | 88

the heat in this place seems to be getting to people… take a chill pill, lol… i don’t dig those who are trying to take down others…
and, i agree with @ Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2024 22:33 utc | 79

Posted by: james | Apr 8 2024 1:19 utc | 89

Poilievre’s insensitivity and lack of basic historic knowledge revealed while celebrating the exceptionalism and martial prowess of (white) peoples on the other side of the planet should be a magnet of controversy. It will probably be buried.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pierre-poilievre-middle-east-synagogue-1.7160436
Posted by: jayc | Apr 7 2024 15:41 utc | 28
The core of the IDF, the “lifers,” is a group made up of the descendants of those that had lived there prior to Israel becoming a state. They were Jews that were indigenous to the area and were actually Semitic.
They’re NOT “white people.”
The ashkenazi Zionists are not Semitic nor indigenous and aren’t really white people either. Many are of Russian, Polish, and Ukrainian extraction but due to their closed breeding pool they aren’t really that anymore.
Verbal q of the Ashkenazi tells the tale: their q is lopsided with the verbal being about ten points higher than the other portions. You might have noticed this if you have tried to retain an attorney.
Canuck: you’re right, he’s an apologist. I notice it constantly. He’s sly and circumspect about it, but it’s always there.

Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 8 2024 1:34 utc | 90

patty @ 84
You and bovine and a few other “holier than thou” types here continue to spew nonsense and believe self-righteously in your meager experiences, cognitive dissonance and even deep-rooted bias’s and act/project like it’s the gospel truth…
Unfortunately real life ain’t like what you think it is fellas. Knowledge is power as they say right, well one shouldn’t be too timid in researching sources and or sites that don’t quite conform to their own belief system. Look to the “story” of the Sabbatean-Frankists and their extraordinary journey westward through many Euro-nations and ending up in the City of London circa 1670 that graphically fills in the big picture we see today. The danger is real patty, figure it out before it’s too late. You don’t want to look the simpleton at parties and such.

Posted by: bisfugged | Apr 8 2024 1:37 utc | 91

James @ 89
This is what is currently happening here lately unfortunately. So many threads taken up with name-calling and disrespecting those that don’t agree with your discourse. There are the usual suspects that demean folks just because, the back and forth bs is a constant these days.

Posted by: bisfugged | Apr 8 2024 1:42 utc | 92

I second James n Bisfugged. usually smarter folks are classier, but not always.

Posted by: Featherless | Apr 8 2024 1:59 utc | 93

I agree with Bevin @ 36 that Israeli Jewish people should not be forcibly expelled from a future united Palestinian state in which freedom of religion should be part of its bill of rights and constitution.
But I would say also that it is for the Palestinians themselves to decide whether they are prepared to live with the current population of Israeli Jews in their new state, whether they will forgive the Jews for the outrages and sins of their predecessor Israeli state, and whether they will establish a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate war crimes, and law courts and institutions to determine responsibility and to punish where necessary.
It’s very easy for us on the sidelines to say the Palestinians should do this, that or the other, but we have to remember that the Palestinians will have to live with the consequences of forcibly expelling Jewish people from Palestine and forbidding them and their descendants from returning there. These consequences may come back to bite them, and bite hard.
The Palestinians may survive the current genocidal onslaught and claim victory, but if they decide to expel Jews afterwards, the hatred against them may increase and they may not survive the next genocidal attack against them. The next genocidal attack will be one mounted not by Zionists or even by the global Jewish community, it will be one initiated by those whose greed for the oil and natural gas resources of Gaza (land and sea) was denied by the Palestinians.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 8 2024 2:17 utc | 94

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 8 2024 2:17 utc | 94
So in other words allow those that kill other people to steal their land, resources and everything else get off scot free and suffer no consequences.
Got it.
Ahoy, another apologist.
Give me a frickin’ break.

Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 8 2024 2:37 utc | 95

Piotr Berman | Apr 7 2024 21:28 utc | 74
I had noted the Pres election in Slovakia. Propaganda media tells me pro Putin therefore bad. As Bush said “You are either for or against”. Seems like Slovakia needs to ally with Hungary. Perhaps Georgia as well.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 8 2024 3:17 utc | 96

I don’t really see the point in debating whether Jews (of any kind, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Arab) are allowed to stay in some hypothetical completely defeated Israel of the near (or middle term) future.
It’s not going to happen, and let’s take things a step further and say that when the conditions for this hypothetical are in place the US and its vassal states no longer wield majority power in the UN nor militarily over a good deal of Europe and the Global South. Let’s say that China and Russia have somehow built a coalition willing to vote how most of them are anyway now on the subject of Israel Palestine. The US still has veto power. For that to change, something very major would have to happen that’s beyond even my hypothetical situation.
Can anyone see China and Russia, let alone the US allowing a UNSC (or other UN) vote that mandates all Jewish people leave the territory now partially known as Israel? No way; not gonna happen.
Where things get tricky is dispossession and repossession of property: land, structures, water and mineral rights, etc. A majority Palestinian Palestine of the future where the Israeli Jews are allowed to stay will likely resemble South Africa now with some perhaps harsher domestic/internal penalties for the atrocities the Zionists have committed, especially the recent attempted genocide (recency bias pervades many cultures where legal proceedings are concerned) and “right to return” w/ properties more equitably and rightfully distributed. Granted, what Israel is doing in Gaza right now has many aims and one of them is to wipe the history and records kept there, including those that tie back to the original Nakba displacement period. How to determine legal rights to those properties in the future could be tricky as a result.
In any case, in no situation can I foresee the UN ever attempting to make all current day Israeli Jews vacate the land of Palestine. It would be completely unprecedented and extraordinarily difficult – and US and UK diaspora Zionists alone could probably create enough political headaches in those countries to prevent anything of the sort from even being discussed.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 3:18 utc | 97

Posted by: bisfugged | Apr 8 2024 1:37 utc | 91
You complain about name calling in post 91 and then immediately resume calling names in 92 and in the last post you made at 116 in the Ukraine thread: “HahahahaHAhahaha! Grow up brother! You have no clue!” in response to a perfectly rational comment not directed at you, and not containing any name calling or insults itself.
It takes a lot of nerve to loudly protest the name calling while yourself engaging in ad hominem and calling names. “Bovine”? Forgive me if I’ve missed it, but has bevin ever made fun of your handle or called you any names?
Doctor, heal thyself. FFS

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 3:31 utc | 98

Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 8 2024 2:37 utc | 95
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Consequences aren’t up to men. It’s up to God.
Also, starting with revenge would be a terrible way to begin an era of a free and sovereign Palestine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 4:23 utc | 99

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2024 3:18 utc | 97
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Don’t be sure you know what is going to happen. All any of us have as frames of reference are
1. What we know about (if we haven’t heard of it, how can we know about it?)
2. What happened before (our understanding of a historical record written by partisans to reflect their factions’ side)
3. The limits of our imagination (our ability to see an outcome that is both creative and unique)
That’s not exactly fertile ground for being able to grasp something new.
And yet humanity has repeatedly discovered new things and experienced new phenomena.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 4:28 utc | 100