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Posted by: note | Apr 30 2024 15:39 utc | 603

Look again.
This is much more than “genocide” camp.
The “journalists”…going in to get their reward dinner…
This “short” … clarifies the “us” and “them”…clarifies the uprising…
@Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 14:15 utc | 596
Yes, a strict dichotomy does not cover it – Pro-Genocide/Against Genocide.
There are plenty of “Adolf Eichmann” types. In fact they are the majority in my opinion.
They are not strictly *for* Genocide, they just soullessly do their jobs.
Adolf Eichmann was NOT an exception, I think he is the rule.
These journalist-Eichmanns, nonetheless, do serve the pro-Genocide camp.

Posted by: librul | Apr 30 2024 15:45 utc | 605

PavewayIV @ 604 & Librul @ 605
Your coments confirm my thinking (as a layman)
A ‘perfect storm’ is brewing’
Add to the mix…..
In June the US elections start in earnist.
The student protest.
Plus likely esculation of cop violence.
The longer things are in stalmate in Gaza the worse for people there for obveous reasons…
Heatwave now im told, preditable desease, water problems, having to cook on wood fires in the heat ect.
The longer delay the more both ME sides will prepare for the enevitabe fight. (Include Iran)
I also think alot of Vladimir Putins plan for the past two years has been to wait for this election, will he use that west distraction to Russias advantage in both conflicts ?
As i say…
A perfect storm.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 30 2024 16:12 utc | 607

Al-Qassem will slowly be exfiltrating through their underground fortress to Northern Gaza
(Fixed it for you)

Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 16:26 utc | 609

In June the US elections start in earnest.
@Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 30 2024 16:12 utc | 607
Bernie Sanders has not officially declared yet that he is running for reelection to the US Senate this November.
His recent statement patting the student protestors on the head reads like he actually has decided to run in November.
His statement is actually in support of Israel. That is, once Netanyahu and “his policies” are gone Bernie wants us to believe we can all go
back to pretending that the Zionist entity is actually a good place deserving of our freshly printed debt, weaponry, roadblocking of justice
at the UN and international courts of law; plus a special place for foreign agents such as AIPAC, etc, etc.
He pats the students on the head, cause he wants their votes and not their protests against him. He says that The Slur (of antisemitism) is misdirected at the student protestors; but, he promotes The Slur and wants it to maintain it’s power over the world.
Bernie doesn’t come close to even suggesting that The Slur is being used to enable Genocide – by intimidating and silencing.
In fact, he doesn’t even use the word Genocide!
April 25, 2024

No, Mr. Netanyahu. It is not antisemitic or pro-Hamas to point out that in a little over six months your extremist government has killed 34,000 Palestinians and wounded more than 77,000 – seventy percent of whom are women and children.
It is not antisemitic to point out that your bombing has completely destroyed more than 221,000 housing units in Gaza, leaving more than one million people homeless – almost half the population.
It is not antisemitic to note that your government has obliterated Gaza’s civilian infrastructure – electricity, water, and sewage.
It is not antisemitic to realize that your government has annihilated Gaza’s health care system, knocking 26 hospitals out of service and killing more than 400 health care workers.
It is not antisemitic to condemn your government’s destruction of all of Gaza’s 12 universities and 56 of its schools, with hundreds more damaged, leaving 625,000 students with no education.
It is not antisemitic to agree with virtually every humanitarian organization in saying that your government, in violation of American law, has unreasonably blocked humanitarian aid coming into Gaza, creating the conditions in which hundreds of thousands of children face malnutrition and famine.
Mr. Netanyahu. Antisemitism is a vile and disgusting form of bigotry that has done unspeakable harm to many millions of people. But, please, do not insult the intelligence of the American people by attempting to distract us from the immoral and illegal war policies of your extremist and racist government. Do not use antisemitism to deflect attention from the criminal indictment you are facing in the Israeli courts. It is not antisemitic to hold you accountable for your actions.

Posted by: librul | Apr 30 2024 16:37 utc | 611

Librul @ 611
I hear that.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 30 2024 16:43 utc | 613

Re: ICJ
ICJ refused German request to dismiss case entirely. That’s a positive.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 16:57 utc | 615

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 30 2024 15:41 utc | 604
The goal was never to destroy Hamas. Hamas is absolutely necessary as a justification for the continued ethnic cleansing.
To determine what Israel’s goals are, one simply has to look at what they’re actually doing: killing as many Palestinians as possible.

Posted by: JAB | Apr 30 2024 17:08 utc | 617

Johnathan W @ 618
That is a extremly important point.
Its enormaty should be registerd by all.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 30 2024 17:17 utc | 619

Biden’s spokesperson insists the word “intifada” – which describes techniques of civil disobedience, protests and strikes – constitutes “tragic and dangerous hate speech”. The administration’s position seems to be the Palestinians have no human right to complain or work towards improving their circumstance.
Things are moving very quickly now. The pressure from western officials to impose terms – on Hamas over a ceasefire defined by Israel, and on Hezbollah to effectively disarm everywhere south of the Litani – is being resisted and Israel’s moves to turn Rafah into Fallujah can proceed only with the “eyes of the world” looking on, which will be politically disastrous for its patrons.

Posted by: jayc | Apr 30 2024 17:27 utc | 621

Cherrypicking what laws should be applied to whom at the international levek will inevitably be reflected at the national level too, which means public order is in the process of breaking down in the west. In part, we already see that happening when free speech is curtailed when it fits someone’s definition of hate speech in accordance to what is convenient at the international level. Also, what does democracy mean when decisions about joining Nato, for instance, are made in light of opinion polls, bypassing the prescribed political process and keeping such figures as Zelensky in power because it is convenient for outside powers? And the fact remains Netanyahu is avoiding justice by means of perpetuating this war. Yet he now acts as the arbiter of what is lawful and what is not on the international scene.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 30 2024 17:42 utc | 623

@599 LaGuerre
US especially has verbally (which means little or nothing) distanced itself from Rafah invasion already. US/UK would not present the argument I just did, they will still blame Hamas, the most recent statements are to that end.
@600
I think he is saying it because it hits the other side, his political survival is the feign.
Yes, “Israel” would not have a peace if it withdrew either, the confrontation is now deeply embedded.
Your idea would wrong-foot “Israel”, that is sure, but equally it would just arrest 5000 more and blitz Gaza with no domestic oposition on the hostages below theme.
@617
“The goal was never to destroy Hamas. Hamas is absolutely necessary as a justification for the continued ethnic cleansing.”
West bank is also cleansing without Hamas. That “Israel” plays Hamas does not mean it would not like to destroy Hamas, just as it wishes to destroy any resistance whatsoever to its cleansing. In population reduction terms, the genocide is “small numbers” , the rest of the cleansing is to make life unbearable for those who have not fled, to encourage that they leave, to make any population increase more dificult.
Part of the reason neighbouring countries don’t want refugee exodus, because they know they will not be let back in and will be camped at border indefinitely, which is also a spanner in the works of their own politics.
Apart.
Even reading through comments is stressful, my view is b was good enough to leave threads open while he disconnected to heal. Little was asked in return:
“Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.”
Now more than ever.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 18:00 utc | 625

The first tasks of RF defence operationgs should be to localize & then destroy a most of newly shipped batches of ATACMS and StormShadows being on their way into Ukraine Westland, via Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Slowakia and the Baltic States.
That’s a huge effort from now on to be performed by the current RF-Reconn capabilities to execute.
Front-Lines moving some sKqm in either directions are obsolet now.
Secret services have to do their job now, how to locate these new currently delivered rocket systems.
2nd step: After another effective strike against UKR Power Networks to be done, RF should “fly over” all Ukranian regions with some Mig-Fighters to verify that strikes, and to “test” any UKR AD-Systems like Patriot, etc.
I’m an Armed-chair observer, but want to have answers, what’s ongoing soon (beside Dima’s ground reports), just now.

Posted by: spare-truth_01 | Apr 30 2024 18:11 utc | 627

@627
Either you don’t realise you have the wrong thread loaded on your browser, which is what I imagine… or you are trolling the Palestine thread. :-/

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 18:26 utc | 629

RE: Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 30 2024 15:41 utc | 604
Nice Israeli “plan”…but Gazan’s aren’t West Bankers, they’re not going to walk around or thru “check points”.. they’re not going to “separate”.
Actually, more likely, dozens of Gazan women in suicide vests blowing up check points instead.
Israeli’s are sincerely are the stupidest earth beings we have. There’s no way this doesn’t end a complete kerfuckle and mass murder campaign… as it’s intended to be…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 18:45 utc | 631

Bibi has said that he’s going to bomb the crap out of ‘Hamas’ in Rafah no matter what outcome the ceasefire talks produce.
Good one Bonehead!
Have you already forgotten Iran’s less-than-subtle warning a couple of weeks ago?
Still believing too much of your own bullshit?
Anyhow, don’t let us Human Beings dissuade you from embarking on an exclusively Jewish Suicide Bombing. Our popcorn and pretzels are ready – let the FINAL SOLUTION begin!!

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 30 2024 19:57 utc | 633

“Israeli warplanes carried out a very violent raid in southern Lebanon (Aitaroun), the echo of which was heard throughout the northern region.”
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/53366

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 20:45 utc | 635

Hooray for the Palestine Resistance standing strong and tall, rejecting what Blinken called an “extraordinary, extraordinary” deal for them. The Resistance saw it differently. They want lasting peace and a Palestinian state. The Jewish entity and the USA need Gaza to be over soon, but what are they going to do?
I think what’s happening is the Jewish entity and the USA are unwilling to hear what the Resistance is saying. The patience of the Resistance is driving the Empire crazy.

Posted by: Chas | Apr 30 2024 21:11 utc | 637

well, this is depressing
the israelis are perhaps the 21st century new n*zis, now getting plenty of help from the old european n*zis. Germany’s got your back, boys.
“…In 2023 some 30% of Israel’s military equipment purchases came from Germany, totalling $326.5m (£257m) last year – a tenfold increase on 2022.”
And here’s the geo-political money quote of the day. Sound familiar to anyone watching the war in the Ukraine between Nato and Russia? I have to stop my gag reflex on this one:
“….Writing on X following the court’s verdict, the German ministry of foreign affairs welcomed the decision and said Germany was “not a party to the conflict in the Middle East”.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68929873
ICJ rules it will not halt German arms to Israel
The International Court of Justice has ruled against issuing emergency orders to stop Germany’s arms sales to Israel.
Nicaragua brought the case, arguing that Germany had breached the UN genocide convention by sending military hardware to Israel…..”
And
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-icj-nicaragua-germany-israel-9c4601a3749fb51ae77ca43cadde4c1a
…The International Court of Justice said that legal conditions for making such an order weren’t met and ruled against the request in a 15-1 vote, effectively siding with Germany, which told judges that it’s barely exporting any arms to Israel.
However, the 16-judge panel declined to throw out the case altogether, as Germany had requested….
….The court “remains deeply concerned d about the catastrophic living conditions of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip,” said Nawaf Salam, the court’s president.
He added that the court “considers it particularly important to remind all states of their international obligations relating to the transfer of arms to parties to an armed conflict, in order to avoid the risk that such arms might be used” to violate international law.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 30 2024 22:14 utc | 639

Something has obviously happened to B and it’s incredibly ghoulish to keep the comment section going as if all is normal

Posted by: Whitney | Apr 30 2024 22:32 utc | 641

Whitney | Apr 30 2024 22:32 utc | 642
*** Something has obviously happened to B and it’s incredibly ghoulish to keep the comment section going as if all is normal ***
Would you prefer that B returns to find the site closed and everyone gone away?

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 30 2024 23:10 utc | 643

This is too good to wait till the morning. A suicide note?
‘Megatron
@Megatron_ron
8h
BREAKING:
🇮🇱 Netanyahu:
“We will enter Rafah and we don’t care about the court in The Hague, the court is anti-Semitic”
“We will enter Rafah because we have no other choice. We will destroy the Hamas battalions there, we will complete all the objectives of the war, including the return of all our abductees.
There are many forces trying to prevent us from doing this. Recently they were joined by another force – the International Criminal Court in The Hague. This court has no authority over the State of Israel. The possibility that he will issue arrest warrants for war crimes against IDF commanders and state leaders, this possibility is a scandal on a historical scale.
This will be the first time that a democratic country, which is fighting for its life according to all the rules of international law, is accused of war crimes. If this thing does happen, it will be an indelible stain on all of humanity. It would be an unprecedented anti-Semitic hate crime, a crime that would add fuel to the anti-Semitic incitement that is already raging in the world.
I want to make one thing clear: no decision, neither in The Hague nor anywhere else, will harm our determination to achieve all the goals of the war – the release of all our hostages, a complete victory over Hamas and a promise that Gaza will no longer pose a threat to Israel, as well as to restore security and the residents to the north.
t.me/megatron_ron ‘
Lol.
‘An indelible stain on [ all of ] humanity’
They are gagging for it, martyrdom ! Again?
What can humanity do? All of us are to be complicit in the end of the illegal apartheid entity? Nothing to do with the separate from humanity themselves.
Gosh I wonder if I can live with the indelible stain. Like lady Macbeth?
Perhaps better than the otherwise indelible stain of the Holocaust of Gaa and Palestine.
Choices, choices.
Fuck Nazi Zionists.
Free Palestine from the River to the Sea.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 1 2024 0:19 utc | 645

Wow !?!?!
That Netanyahu quote is most revealing. Signals that the Likud Gov’t is unable to recognize the constellation of forces has changed. Groupthink big time in that gov’t.
Seven months in and the Likud still thinks this is just another lawn mowing operation. Meanwhile, Al-Qassem underground fortress is barely touched.

Posted by: Exile | May 1 2024 1:44 utc | 647

I hope B is OK. Scanning through the thread only sickens me more than ever. Zionism has a full press on to squash dissent and this site is a dissenter. In talking with people at work I can tell you most simply do not know what is going on. One of the local unions in San Francisco passed a resolution and some of the membership is angry.
Modeling this on the South Africa divestment stragedy is interesting but it will not work. That had backing from the press and the institutions. I hate saying this but every Palestinian could be murdered or shipped out of their country and most in my area would not think twice about the evil. Zionism has full control of the institutions in the West. I would say it is the Kaballisitic form of Judaism.
A few old hippie friends see the parallels from the past. That is about the whole of it. One can only hope the Democrats Chicago convention will resemble ’68.
Expect the military to be there in full force with bayonets fixed.

Posted by: circumspect | May 1 2024 2:46 utc | 649

https://www.rt.com/news/596824-trump-israel-aid-netanyahu/
Trump chimes in. Actually interesting….

Posted by: scorpion | May 1 2024 3:37 utc | 651

Who else here sees the parallels to “Lord of the rings“,
That is to say, the power relationship between
Wormtongue <—> Theoden
and
Netanyahoo <—> Biden
Netantyahu is pure evil.

Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 1 2024 4:26 utc | 653

believe that God is commanding the Existence of the Universe …

Posted by: Giyane | May 1 2024 4:53 utc | 655

CrazyTrain 654
Laysa ba’da kufri Dhamb. Arabic.
Meaning, there is no greater evil than not believing in God and His commandments Thou shalt not kill etc.
All other evil actions stem from what is in the heart.
Put like this, it’s clear to see what the remedy for evil is , to believe in God. It’s manifestly clear that politicians don’t. End of.

Posted by: Giyane | May 1 2024 5:00 utc | 657

Tweet from Jonathan Cook

One doesn’t need to be a fortune-teller to understand that the Israel-US game plan for Gaza runs something like this:
1. In public, Biden appears “tough” on Netanyahu, urging him not to “invade” Rafah and pressuring him to allow more “humanitarian aid” into Gaza.
2. But already the White House is preparing the ground to subvert its own messaging. It insists that Israel has offered an “extraordinarily generous” deal to Hamas – one that, Washington suggests, amounts to a ceasefire. It doesn’t. According to reports, the best Israel has offered is an undefined “period of sustained calm”. Even that promise can’t be trusted.
3. If Hamas accepts the “deal” and agrees to return some of the hostages, the bombing eases for a short while but the famine intensifies, justified by Israel’s determination for “total victory” against Hamas – something that is impossible to achieve. This will simply delay, for a matter of days or weeks, Israel’s move to step 5 below.
4. If, as seems more likely, Hamas rejects the “deal”, it will be painted as the intransigent party and blamed for seeking to continue the “war”. (Note: This was never a war. Only the West pretends either that you can be at war with a territory you’ve been occupying for decades, or that Hamas “started the war” with its October 7 attack when Israel has been blockading the enclave, creating despair and incremental malnutrition there, for 17 years.)
Last night US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken moved this script on by stating Hamas was “the only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire… They have to decide and they have to decide quickly”.
5. The US will announce that Israel has devised a humanitarian plan that satisfies the conditions Biden laid down for an attack on Rafah to begin.
6. This will give the US, Europe and the region the pretext to stand back as Israel launches the long-awaited assault – an attack Biden has previously asserted would be a “red line”, leading to mass civilian casualties. All that will be forgotten.
7. As Middle East Eye reports, Israel is building a ring of checkpoints around Rafah. Netanyahu will suggest, falsely, that these guarantee its attack meets the conditions laid down in international humanitarian law. Women and children will be allowed out – if they can reach a checkpoint before Israel’s carpet bombing kills them along the way.
8. All men in Rafah, and any women and children who remain, will be treated as armed combatants. If they are not killed by the bombing or falling rubble, they will be either summarily executed or dragged off to Israel’s torture chambers. No one will mention that any Hamas fighters who were in Rafah were able to leave through the tunnels.
9. Rafah will be destroyed, leaving the entire strip in ruins, and the Israeli-induced famine will worsen. The West will throw up its hands, say Hamas brought this on Gaza, agonise over what to do, and press third countries – especially Arab countries – for a “humanitarian plan” that relocates the survivors out of Gaza.
10. The western media will continue describing Israel’s genocide in Gaza in purely humanitarian terms, as though this “disaster” was an act of God.
11. Under US pressure, the International Court of Justice, or World Court, will be in no hurry to issue a definitive ruling on whether South Africa’s case that Israel is committing a genocide – which it has already found “plausible” – is proved.
12. Whatever the World Court eventually decides, and it is almost impossible to imagine it won’t determine that Israel carried out a genocide, it will be too late. The western political and media class will have moved on, leaving it to the historians to decide what it all meant.
13. Meanwhile, Israel is already using the precedents it has created in Gaza, and its erosion of the long-established principles of international law, as the blueprint for the West Bank. Saying Hamas has not been completely routed in Gaza but is using this other Palestinian enclave as its base, Israel will gradually intensify the pressures on the West Bank with another blockade. Rinse and repeat.
That’s the likely plan. Our job is to do everything in our power to stop them making it a reality.

Posted by: CrazyTrain | May 1 2024 5:34 utc | 659

The goal was never to destroy Hamas. Hamas is absolutely necessary as a justification for the continued ethnic cleansing.
To determine what Israel’s goals are, one simply has to look at what they’re actually doing: killing as many Palestinians as possible.
Posted by: JAB | Apr 30 2024 17:08 utc | 617
Precisely.
fyi,
https://twitter.com/WarWatchs/status/1785297556181844032
Israeli Finance Minister, Bezalel Smotrich:
“We must obliterate Rafah, Deir al-Balah, and Nuseirat. The memory of the Amalek must be erased. No partial destruction will suffice; only absolute and complete devastation.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 1 2024 4:23 utc | 653
Yes. Amaleks all the way down.
The Genocidal State of Israel has become an abomination to whatever is left of humanity in this new age of barbarism. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but in time it will be said – Israel delenda est.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 1 2024 5:39 utc | 661

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 30 2024 23:03 utc | 643
I haven’t registered on Twitter but I am able to read with no restrictions.
I read, copy and paste as I see fit to, on MOA.

Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 6:07 utc | 663

I haven’t registered on Twitter but I am able to read with no restrictions.
Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 6:07 utc | 664
How is that possible? What’s your trick?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 1 2024 6:10 utc | 665

I had a google account for 10 yrs, had to join for work.

Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 6:29 utc | 667

This wasn’t exactly unexpected . It was bibis plan b if he couldn’t just extinct them
Biden considering giving “permanent safe haven in the US” to Palestinian refugees – CBS
So is this voluntary migration or ethnic cleansing by the USA . That will be a interesting ICC IJC case .

Posted by: Hankster | May 1 2024 6:48 utc | 669

The culumbia university protest camp has now been totaly cleared the hamilton building retaken by police. Bus loads of protesters arested and taken away, as hostages.
Its over for culumbia. For now, or not ?
Cops were very violent.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 1 2024 5:26 utc | 659
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you “The American Tiananmen Square”.
(No tanks involved since the’ve all been shipped to Ukraine)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 1 2024 7:15 utc | 671

To clarify, one can read all the replies to the original post as well as click on the account of the person replying to read any of his/her posts.

Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 7:20 utc | 673

Hankster | May 1 2024 6:48 utc | 670
Does anyone really expect the US to take in Palestinians as refugees after Afghanistan? They won’t vote for Biden as might the “refugees” who entered by the US southern border.
So where are they “expected” to go (planned for)?
**
=> Always some other country than “here”, where ever that may be.

Posted by: Stonebird | May 1 2024 8:06 utc | 675

New Yorkers has lots to look forward to:
Haaretz.com
@haaretzcom
New York Mayor vows to bring what he’s learned from Israel Police back to the NYPD
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1694418993266983230

Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 8:31 utc | 677

AJ+
@ajplus
·
7h
What does Israel have to do with U.S. police? Activists in Atlanta are calling out the connections.
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1785475222763606383

Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 8:38 utc | 679

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jeremy scahill
@jeremyscahill
In TIME magazine interview, Trump goes after Netanyahu: “Netanyahu rightfully has been criticized for what took place on October 7.” He also blasts Bibi because he “he dropped out” of the US assassination of Qassem Soleimani in Jan. 2020. “that was going to be a joint” operation.
https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/1785298955204481326

Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 8:47 utc | 681

“Something has obviously happened to B and it’s incredibly ghoulish to keep the comment section going as if all is normal..”
Posted by: Whitney | Apr 30 2024 22:32 utc | 642
It is not ‘ghoulish’; and if you indeed think so why did you post?

Posted by: canuck | May 1 2024 9:07 utc | 683

Do these zionist Christian politicians ever read their bibles?
Posted by: Giyane | May 1 2024 4:52 utc | 655
Yes.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 1 2024 9:40 utc | 685

Charles Taylor calls it the scapegoat mechanism. The evil is projected outside the group while resisting it with violence is taken to purify ourselves by connecting us with God who is pure. That is what Taylor calls numinous violence: violence is in the service of the higher. Not limited to any religion.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 1 2024 9:45 utc | 687

@ Posted by: Menz | May 1 2024 6:28 utc | 667
@ Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | May 1 2024 7:12 utc | 671 (plus a ps just for you, an invite to boogie – “piss off Cook”! Really LD? – if you want to compare notes on that great journalist, I’m ready)
‘login with google acct.’
BUT Menz ….That. Means..you are registered with X !
That all your Google history and personal info and their tracking cookies etc is part of your login to twatter. – you don’t need a separate twatter account if you are already using some already verified identification which already reveals all about you through all the various databases in private corporate hands.
Ie for us ordinary folks to vote tomorrow in our local elections (in the U.K.) we can use any form of issued Identification now. Good you say? No, because before it was sufficient that we were registered as occupants of our properties , a necessary declaration for obtaining credit and services by public and private bodies, it proved existence and legal abode.
For all elections the local council issued voting cards for the qualifying voters thus legally registered in their wards. Even without which we could still vote by presenting ourselves at the polling station and having our name checked off by the helper at the desk…no need for furthe ID!
Twitter was accessible by any browser in secure mod that stopped it installing its cookies and collecting info on you. As long as you didn’t want to interact with it and just watch , as the poor kids did who would stare into the TV shop window on Saturdays to watch a football game ( or cricket even!). We just had to present ourselves at its window – one could follow all the posts and replies BUT NOT ENGAGE – which was sufficient for me and many. …. Until the First King of Mars Invaded and took PERSONAL CONTROL of the platform and brought down the shutters on us pesky kids getting free eye candy, because they didn’t like anonymity amongst the eyeballs in the world.
Nitter was able to restore that facility using open source coders – until it too got the hammers dropped on its developers a few months ago.
It seems some have managed to still crack open Musk The Merciless’ iron curtain … great, for as long as it lasts. My next post is a direct copy in the existential fight between Fascism of the Few and the Most of Humanity currently reaching its decisive point.
For me , I am not interested in handing even more control to the faceless , Silicon Valley , zionazi deepstate Aliens from Mars or anywhere , so no Farcebook, Gaggle, Twatter , LynchedIn , Disgust, etc – because with FRT, Digital Currency and all the AI tech we are just being herded like sheep.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 1 2024 11:45 utc | 689

Posted by: DunGroanin:
BUT Menz ….That. Means..you are registered with X !
That all your Google history and personal info and their tracking cookies etc is part of your login to twatter. – you don’t need a separate twatter account if you are already using some already verified identification which already reveals all about you through all the various databases in private corporate hands.
Posted by: DunGroanin | May 1 2024 11:45 utc | 689
Thanks for that comment DunGroanin. I miss a lot of news links that posters put up in the form of twitterx links. And I will continue to miss them .
Why should we be required to give our name and number to read an article?
PS…
I’m glad you are still posting after so many of my favorite old timer posters have left due to not wanting to wade through the invasive sewer water here.
Maybe B needed a break from the stench?

Bartholomew Cubbins

Posted by: Bartholomew Cubbins | May 1 2024 16:09 utc | 691