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April 25, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-123
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Worried about b…hope all is well and we hear something from him soon.
Posted by: furies | Apr 29 2024 15:15 utc | 501
Exile @ 492
The point of connection I see is lots of young people actually know a Palestinian. There are enough of them living here. The young do not ghettoize them. There has been a real change of manners in that direction
And I still don’t believe it. So far as I can tell political awareness is at absolute zero for anyone so young. Concepts like nation-state are like higher math or foreign languages. Geography remains anathema. They talk to their Palestinian friend five minutes and become pro-Palestinian. They talk to their Jewish friend for five minutes and revert to rabid Zionism.
Mark2 @ 490
I have a plan. Let’s all get on the Mark2 plan. Nonstop non-sequiturs and a heaping helping of wishful thinking. We’ll all feel better even if we are dumb as rocks.
Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 29 2024 15:17 utc | 502
Oldhippie @ 502
Sarcasism. That’l save the worlds issues, iv got a good memmory, i know your plan,
But lets put the past behind us, get over your long standing personel grudge, stop being an undercover right wing, dishonest mole, and come over to our side. The side of right against wrong. Americas sinking fast time to jump ship.
My plan ?……….lets get the job done this time, smash the fash.
Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 29 2024 15:31 utc | 503
“Thank you American Universities. Your voice has reached Gaza”
https://t.me/presstv/94920
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 29 2024 16:40 utc | 504
oldhippie;
Agree that the American college “elite” of today have nil cultural education and even less political awareness. Ask anyone educated at elite schools under the age of 40 about any 19thC novel – you’ll get blank looks. Mention Goethe or Schiller and you’ll get bewilderment.
Posted by: Exile | Apr 29 2024 17:04 utc | 505
“begs the question” actually means “avoids the question.”
Posted by: Jane | Apr 28 2024 22:58 utc | 435
Jane, I hate to be a pedantic jerk, but the phrase actually means that the question rests on a premise that has not been shown to be true. Or, as wikipedia puts it:
In classical rhetoric and logic, begging the question or assuming the conclusion (Latin: petītiō principiī) is an informal fallacy that occurs when an argument’s premises assume the truth of the conclusion. Historically, begging the question refers to a fault in a dialectical argument in which the speaker assumes some premise that has not been demonstrated to be true. In modern usage, it has come to refer to an argument in which the premises assume the conclusion without supporting it. This makes it more or less synonymous with circular reasoning.[1][2]
Some examples are:
“People have known for thousands of years that the earth is round. Therefore, the earth is round.”
“Drugs are illegal so they must be bad for you. Therefore, we ought not legalize drugs because drugs are bad for you.”[3]
An alternative, colloquial use of the phrase “begs the question” also occurs with an entirely dissimilar sense in place of “prompts a question” or “raises a question”.[4]
Posted by: McAgnew | Apr 29 2024 17:14 utc | 506
” that the American college “elite” of today have nil cultural education and even less political awareness. Ask anyone educated at elite schools under the age of 40 about any 19thC novel – you’ll get blank looks. Mention Goethe or Schiller and you’ll get bewilderment.”
Posted by: Exile | Apr 29 2024 17:04 utc | 505
I had no idea it has gotten that bad. I had nothing but contempt for the post-modernist snake oil they were selling in the 80’s when I was going through grad school. Denatured Marxism, as my thesis advisor put it. So I learned Latin and Greek to sell myself as a Renaissance scholar. Didn’t work. I should have known then.
The other problem of course is that 75% of the work is being done by adjuncts working for minimum wage.
Sigh.
Posted by: JAB | Apr 29 2024 17:19 utc | 507
ICJ press Release
26 April 2024
Alleged Breaches of Certain International Obligations in respect of the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Nicaragua v. Germany) – Request for the indication of provisional measures – The Court to deliver its Order on Tuesday 30 April 2024 at 3 p.m.
Procedure(s):Provisional measures
Posted by: Exile | Apr 29 2024 17:25 utc | 508
RE: “US, Britain urge Hamas to accept Israeli truce proposal”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2024 14:42 utc | 495
You know, just once, I’d like to see this “headline”:
“US, Britain, EU, Saudi Arabia, Egypt urge ISRAEL to accept Hamas truce proposal…”. Don’t know if Hamas has the guns and people to tell all of the above to “go pound salt” …but they do have the public opinion on their side. Personally, I’d love to see this end with, not just US population turning into a full on revolt against the government… but a “ME Arab Spring” where Jordan, Egypt & SA were “corrected” by their populous …
And I’m dreaming again.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 29 2024 17:57 utc | 509
Yemen, Hezbollah, South Africa, Nicaragua and even a Qatari-controlled News Network have done much more for Gaza then the two permanent members of the UNSC, China and Russia!
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 15:14 utc | 500
Sure. In what way have they been more successful in stopping the genocide?
And I don’t think that chick is a hasbara troll just because she called Iran a shithole. Maybe she is from there.
And of course you have to argue Pepe’s story is not true because you have decided that Russia has not done anything. If it is then Russia just saved Iran from becoming another Gaza.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 18:08 utc | 510
From Declassified UK:
New court documents reveal that ministers David Cameron and Kemi Badenoch authorised UK arms sales to Israel right after an airstrike killed three British charity workers in Gaza.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 18:30 utc | 511
Dr. Hudson, an alumni of Columbia U, has written a scathing op/ed on the recent attack on students over the past two weeks calling Anti-Semitic the new epithet replacing Communism of the McCarthy Era, “Universities as Tentacles of the Police State”, and previous to that was “Gaza – Civilization will Win over Barbarism”. IMO, Dr. Hudson’s suggestions for protesters at the end of his op/ed are well founded and ought to be adopted.
Sure. In what way have they been more successful in stopping the genocide?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 18:08 utc | 510
The genocide is going on, unfortunately no one has been able to stop it yet. But dont try to derail … You tried to give credit to an actor, I found your judgment unfair and replied.
Can’t you see the difference in approaching the issue yourself? You need me to tell you that “action” regardless of it’s form and framework is everything, and “lip services” is nothing …?
About Russia and China I have explained the dilemma in previous posts in previous threads.
JCPOA was dictated to Iran by UNSC resolutions where China and Russia were partners in crime. After a while they discovered how stupid it was and changed their manner. Good! but … You fool me once, shame on you, you fool me twice, shame on me.
You get the point?
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 19:02 utc | 513
A deeper dive on Jill (Franken) Steins’ investment portfolios and her financial ties tells you all you would ever need to know about this two-bit fraud and hypocrite.
When anyone says ‘green’ think ‘red’ and you will have a clearer picture of these modern day Communists. ‘Jill the Shill’ has a ‘tick in the box’ for sustainable living, green new deals, shutting down coal fired power stations (but only in the US), clean water campaigns in the most heavily fluoridated nation on earth. This, without actually ever mentioning fluoride and many, many more sound-bites to ‘feather-bed’ her credentials with the now ubiquitous political arrest ‘in the bag’ too.
Jill has got some really interesting divestment in her financial portfolios which include direct investment and that from managed investment programmes from the likes of Vanguard.
Through her portfolio, Vanguard 500, they invest heavily in Exxon, Conoco, Duke Energy and Chevron to name a few of their carbon credentials. That said, there are no lengths ‘Jill the Shill’ wouldn’t go to in order to make a few ‘greenbacks’.
Indeed, follow the money as the old saying goes, ‘Jill the Shill’ forgot to mention her finances that are index linked to the ‘root of all evil’. Stein has invested roughly $1.2 to $2.65 million in funds like the TIAA-CREF Equity Index that have big stakes in the financial-services industry. Holdings in these funds include big banks, such as: JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, and Deutsche Bank as major parts of their investment portfolios. Evidently this is of no concern to Jill when she once described Goldman Sachs as “Hilary Clintons’ best friend” is also invested in the same institution as Hilary. Does this mean Jill is Hilarys’ Best Friends Friend? Lecturing others about ethics, really Jill?
Moving swiftly along…………..as a physician Jill would love nothing better than to keep the nation healthy, wealthy and safe (as in safe and effective). Jill has taken direct stock options in all the big vaccine manufacturers and some other large corporate multinational death squads too.
In one of the handful of direct stock investments Stein holds, she listed between $50,001 and $100,000 in the pharmaceutical giant Merck, which paid a record fine for overbilling Medicaid in the US. She has also invested $1,130,010 to $2,400,000 in funds that maintain significant stakes in Pfizer, Novartis, Johnson & Johnson, and Allergan. I think by now, we are starting to get a better picture of the horrors of this individual and her seedy investments. A woman with absolutely zero moral fibre with not so much as a whiff of integrity either.
As a physician Jill clearly wants to heal a sick nation. What better way to do it after vaccinating everyone than to get them smoking Marlboro cigarettes. Yes, Jill is a strong advocate of smoking and would love nothing better than a Phillip-Morris backed pension scheme to prove it. Stein has between $500,004 to $1,100,000 invested in funds that maintain significant stakes in Phillip Morris International, the tobacco giant that manufactures Marlboro cigarettes and 17 other tobacco brands too.
Tired of my ‘droning on’ about Jills questionable investments. Okay, I’ll finish here. Jill also has an investment portfolio with stakes in Raytheon. Raytheon love nothing better than making autonomous and semi-autonomous weapons platforms (drones). Therefore if the vaccines didn’t ‘get you’, the smoking didn’t ‘get you’, Jill will have one last attempt from high above.
There are no lengths this ‘thing’ won’t do in order to keep you safe. Jill seems to think Climate Change is an emergency and serious threat. The only serious threat the world really faces are two-bit frauds like her masquerading as ‘Green Politicians’ when it is clear to see what her true colours really are!
https://safe.sur.ly/o/aanirfan.blogspot.ae/AA000014?pageviewId=desktop-302e333130333730303020313731343431353738312031393839393134303735
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | Apr 29 2024 19:09 utc | 514
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2024 18:34 utc | 512
Thank you for posting that link. I agree with Hudson that the students should alter their demands. Also: a key niggle which he and others keep overlooking:
As the Columbia President-Baroness today stated, the University wishes to uphold its Free Speech traditions, however the encampment is unacceptable, violating campus guidelines on many counts. Further, if non-campus residents sleep in the tents, they are trespassing. Should they send in the police to break up the encampment? Probably not, but perhaps non-students in the mix requires their presence somehow.
My point is that it is one thing to freely proclaim an opinion and another to occupy part of the campus with unapproved overnight accommodations. Further, it yet another to be making demands not only of the university administration, but in some cases also the United States Government. There are too many cross-currents.
Forthrightly establishing that criticizing Israel’s terrorist activities against Palestinians is not antisemitism is indeed important but that is not what they have been articulating, rather demands that their universities divest from certain investments and such.
I think they should focus their intention better: organize daily protests in accord with university policies, host lecturers, make videos and publish well-written articles taking forceful arguments about Gaza to the nation and the world rather than chaotically occupying campus squares whilst making policy demands without legal standing to do so. It’s way too messy.
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 19:02 utc | 513
You won’t see a shift to a multipolar world, which you make almost sound as if it were Pepe’s own invention, if you go back to what the foreign policy of Russia and China was before the Ukraine war.
As for JCPOA, wasn’t Iran also one of the signatories? By the way, the treaty was signed in 2015, when Russia also moved to Syria a couple of months later.
Get the picture?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 19:26 utc | 516
Lydia Gorbik | Apr 29 2024 19:09 utc | 514
change the focus to climate change …excellent diversion from her stance against ishrahells genocide
we should throw her out with the bathwater
a cheap tactic used by trolls to divert attention from the current subject
not saying that YOU ARE A CHEAP TROLL
just pointing out that is what cheap trolls have been doing at MOA since forever.
Posted by: ld | Apr 29 2024 19:35 utc | 517
McAgnew | Apr 29 2024 17:14 utc | 506
Are you not, in fact, agreeing with Jane’s point that by ‘begging the question’ one actually avoids it?
ld | Apr 29 2024 19:35 utc | 517
“Lydia” makes her ideas plain by calling Stein a “Communist.”
Quite what her pension plan or other investments have to do with her being arrested in St Louis escapes me.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 19:52 utc | 518
People need to weigh all information esp before dedicating time and emotion to a candidate. Alex Jones and Rense did such a cult of personality hype on trump that no matter what he does people still view him as a saviour. Even if not that extreme in emotion wasted time and money and emotion on a fake candidate as I did with Kerry and Bernie. Tho I did post an article from Rolling Stone about Kerry coverup of POWs in Vietnam and was banned from Democratic Underground several times for posting negatives about Kerry tho still voted for him. Followed Green Party’s investagation of black box voting and other voting scams in that election and kerry had to be shamed repeatedly before he would sign on to the Green Party investigations that needed candidates signature.
After following RFK jr site and excellent information was disappointed with the photos of him beside israel flag in US marches and one of Scneerson’s followers. I think it likely RFK was threatened but had to make decision how closely to follow his candidacy. Information is needed and should be investigated before making emotional commitment to candidate. Just because Jill Stein says she is against the slaughter of Palestinians she could change as Bernie was at first pro israel then switched I would guess to be controlled opposition
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | Apr 29 2024 20:10 utc | 519
Jill also has an investment portfolio with stakes in Raytheon. Raytheon love nothing better than making autonomous and semi-autonomous weapons platforms (drones).
See Raytheon and 911.
https://jacobin.com › 2023 › 10 › raytheon-general-dynamics-gaza-israel-war-military-industrial-complex
Military Contractors Are Framing the Israeli War on Gaza as a … – Jacobin
Defense firms RTX (formerly known as Raytheon) and General Dynamics, which are America’s second and third largest federal government contractors, have seen their stocks increase more than 10 percent since Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel. The trend is part of a broader surge in stock performance among defense companies.
https://iasj.org › investors-call-on-companies-to-discontinue-the-supply-of-weapons-used-in-the-military-assault-in-gaza
Investors Call on Companies to discontinue the supply of weapons used …
On May 21, 2021, 36 institutional, faith-based, and individual investors with $22.4 billion in assets under management wrote to Boeing, Elbit Systems, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, and Raytheon Technologies urging the companies to fulfill their human rights responsibilities and discontinue the supply of weapons or components used in the military assault in Gaza […]
https://www.businessinsider.com › raytheon-ceo-benefit-dod-budget-increases-war-israel-2023-10?op=1
Raytheon Stood to ‘Benefit’ From DoD Budget Increases Due to the War in …
Oct 25, 2023
Raytheon’s CEO said on an earnings call that the company stood to ‘benefit’ from DoD budget increases due to the war in Israel. Israeli Iron Dome air defense system fires to intercept a rocket …
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | Apr 29 2024 20:14 utc | 520
More fake news on the Saudi-Israel “normalization” process, as several headlines from brief stories today infer Blinken has announced it imminent.
Example from Barron’s: “Blinken Says US-Saudi Security Pact for Israel Normalisation Nears Completion”
Ynet: “Blinken Says Work On Saudi-Israel Normalization ‘Very Close To Completion'”
The Cradle: “Blinken Revives Israel-Saudi Normalization”
VOA: “Blinken: US-Saudi Security Pact for Israel Normalisation ‘Close To Completion'”
The actual Blinken quote is far less assured: “The work that Saudi Arabia, the United States have been doing together in terms of our own agreements, I think, is potentially very close to completion.” “potentially” = maybe
Similar reports have been appearing since January (i.e. “Blinken Discusses Israeli Normalization in Tented Saudi Talks” January 8, al Monitor), mostly linked to Blinken and published when he is doing the shuttle-diplomacy in the region.
Posted by: jayc | Apr 29 2024 20:20 utc | 521
You won’t see a shift to a multipolar world, which you make almost sound as if it were Pepe’s own invention, if you go back to what the foreign policy of Russia and China was before the Ukraine war.
As for JCPOA, wasn’t Iran also one of the signatories? By the way, the treaty was signed in 2015, when Russia also moved to Syria a couple of months later.
Get the picture?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 19:26 utc | 516
No I don’t get the picture. Iran had no choice other then signing JCPOA agreement at that time because it was not ready to face the myriad of sanctions from all over the world including Russia and China. You think any independent country on volunteer basis allow 5 foreign states decide on his behalf how to develop and handle different fields of science and industry?
“Multipolar World” was not invented by Pepe. It was invented by the same Chinese Think-Tanks that ordered “Cultural Revolution” and later on declared Soviet Union a “Social-Imperialist” power thus aligning with US and Nato to fight UdSSR. A partnership that was very prosperous and later labeled as “Chinese Wounder”.
Here your History Lesson of the day:
Head for
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76ve13/comp1
Read all Memorandums related to Kissinger during his secret China visit, July 11, 1971
Kissinger denies to use secret US embassy wires to communicate with Washington and insists on reporting to President Nixon face to face.
Here a short snippet:
TO
HENRY A. KISSINGER IN AIRCRAFT
FROM
GENERAL HAIG
LEADER HAS ASKED THAT I CONVEY FOLLOWING MESSAGE TO YOU: “YOU REPORTED CONVERSATIONS WERE THE MOST INTENSIVE, IMPORTANT AND FAR-REACHING OF YOUR WHITE HOUSE EXPERIENCE. IF WE PLAY THE GAME UP TO THE HILT FROM NOW ON OUT, HISTORY WILL RECORD YOUR VISIT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FOREIGN POLICY ACHIEVEMENT OF THIS CENTURY. WHEN YOU RETURN, I PLAN TO GIVE YOU A DAY OFF IN COMPENSATION FOR YOUR SUPERB SERVICE TO THE NATION—FAR BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY. PLEASE EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO THE DEDICATED MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF WHOSE SUPERB EFFORTS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS ACHIEVEMENT.”
And here, the Award China got for changing the camp and aligning with US and Nato, the economic foundation of the socalled “Chinese Wounder”:
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4697-agreement-trade-relations-between-the-united-states-america-and-the
I could go on and on … its kind of stuff you folks over there should know about, long ago.
Champions of “Multipolar World” … heh …
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 20:23 utc | 522
Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 19:52 utc | 518
Yes, I see now. Seems I misunderstood her point on first reading. My apologies, Jane.
Posted by: McAgnew | Apr 29 2024 20:34 utc | 523
Am posting this post (originally on the neither ukraine nor palestine thread) on all threads
Doesn’t b run a @MoA X/Twitter account?
I don’t use that system myself but if anyone here does follow @MoA please could they try tweeting a message, even if it is just to say “Hi, folks are getting concerned”.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2024 19:09 utc | 305
It is now clear that something has happened because b would have by now either informed all about his absence or would have reacted to the concern that some of us have expressed.
MoA does have a twitter account so anyone who is on twitter, please check the account and send a message as suggested by Jeremy, post 305.
Also, if anyone has any contact for or with b, or someone who knows b, could you please try to find out what is going on.
That is now more important than any discussion on the blog.
(Posted by: JB | Apr 29 2024 20:00 utc | 311)
Posted by: JB | Apr 29 2024 20:39 utc | 524
Lydia is there a troll academy you could attend to brighten your career prospects?
Posted by: Turk 152 | Apr 29 2024 20:47 utc | 525
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 19:26 utc | 516
Sorry I forgot to reply to another part of your comment. Russia engaging in Syria.
FYI, here the background. Read who convinced Putin to enter Syria and help defending Asad.
The mastermind behind US Hegemonic defeat in Western Asia.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-said-to-host-iranian-revolutionary-guards-soleimani/
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 20:52 utc | 526
Just to add to Posted by: JB | Apr 29 2024 20:39 utc | 524
I think the account is actually @MoonOfA, but anyone who follows the account already should have the proper address. Please try a message of some kind, thanks.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2024 20:58 utc | 527
No I don’t get the picture
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 20:23 utc | 522
In that you are right.
Kissinger went to China so the US is the driver of the multipolar world half a century later? The relationship between China and the US has changed, not to mention the relationship between China and Russia. And neither are China and Russia what they once were.
And Soleimani got Russia to move to Syria and yet Iran signed JCPOA because Russia was threatening it with sanctions? And both of these in the same year 2015?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 21:21 utc | 528
Today’s second creation: “It’s Another Monday: Crooke & The Big Picture,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/its-another-monday-crooke-and-the
And Soleimani got Russia to move to Syria and yet Iran signed JCPOA because Russia was threatening it with sanctions? And both of these in the same year 2015?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 21:21 utc | 528
No the US is not the driver of “a multipolar world”, China is. I just wanted to show you the bad friendship record of China. They have once betrayed their partners, betrayed Communist partners. Now you tell me What are the chances that they betray their Muslim partners if there is something to gain?
About the new round of Iran-Russia relations and Russian engagement in Syria. Yes, it is exactly how it started. Did you expect Iran just to sit there and watch what is being dictated by world powers and play based on their scripts? … then you underestimate them … which is actually not bad, if you get the point.
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 21:45 utc | 530
I voted for Jill Stein in both 2012 and 2016. My recollection is that I voted for her both times because she was clearly antiwar and pro-Palestinian. So she has held these positions for quite some time now.
Posted by: Lysias | Apr 29 2024 21:46 utc | 531
Posted by: Lysias | Apr 29 2024 21:46 utc | 531
Me too! And I will vote for her a third time in November.
Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 29 2024 21:49 utc | 532
Posted by: JB | Apr 29 2024 20:39 utc | 524
MOA Twitter account, B has not updated for about 5 days:
https://twitter.com/MoonofA
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 21:49 utc | 533
Mairav Zonszein מרב זונשיין
@MairavZ
The current deal being talked about for a 40 day ceasefire is a lot of hot air. No matter how generous Israel may be on prisoners and other issues, without a full stop and withdrawal of IDF I doubt it will go through. /1
With the current proposal, and with Egypt and US desperate for ceasefire for their own reasons, Israel can appear to have tried and then continue to Rafah, knowing full well it won’t “win the war” but rather destroy further and prolong everything. /2
Despite heavy blow to Hamas, Israel has lost on getting it to surrender, lost on legitimacy and on getting hostages. It cannot realistically expect a pause to resume fire. Even Israeli military analysts get this. And this is besides the fact that Netanyahu wants endless war /3
https://twitter.com/MairavZ/status/1784944657966776632
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 21:52 utc | 534
someone gave some information earlier about the us uk company getting 100s of millions of dollars for the floating port not sure why such information got memory holed weird A.
no doubt the ngo french us and uk will be vaccinating everything and everyone still alive in gaza and giving them nice clean ukrainian cargill monsanto satan food rations.
Posted by: todd | Apr 29 2024 21:53 utc | 535
The collective West and Israel have conspired to starve the children of Gaza.
They are the enemies of humanity.
https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1785021804966228359
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 21:59 utc | 536
Seyed Mohammad Marandi reposted
Richard Medhurst
@richimedhurst
Have you ever wondered what it would be like to witness the forced displacement of Native Americans by Europeans? The fake “peace” agreements, treaties, and land theft?
Look no further than Palestine.
https://twitter.com/richimedhurst/status/1784880459765223542
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 22:02 utc | 537
Aaron Maté reposted
☀️👀
@zei_squirrel
BREAKING: The UN and its General Secretary have refused to put Hamas on the list of groups responsible for sexual violence, reiterating that Pramila Patten’s report was not investigative. Zionists are furious as it undermines their lie about the UN confirming “Hamas mass rapes”
https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1785043486493852082
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 22:04 utc | 538
Aaron Maté
@aaronjmate
Russiagate fraudster Adam Schiff, purveyor of constant paranoia about “Russian interference” in US democracy, endorses call to silence and arrest US college students on behalf of a foreign state:
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AIPAC Tracker
@TrackAIPAC
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A group of 21 House Democrats signed on to a letter calling for Columbia University’s board to end an ongoing peaceful pro-Palestinian encampment on its campus or resign:
Democrats turn up the heat on Columbia University.
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1785048506455261185
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 22:07 utc | 539
industrial murder
https://twitter.com/i/status/1785039300049957213
the United States of Israel
https://twitter.com/MuhammadKhurram/status/1785041696184570109/photo/1
Posted by: ld | Apr 29 2024 22:08 utc | 540
Stuff of nightmares:
Muhammad Shehada
@muhammadshehad2
Unexploded 2,000-pound Israeli bunker buster bomb in a densely-populated neighbourhood in Gaza; the 1st thing people wake up to & sleep next to
This bomb is a US-made GBU by Boeing
The UN estimates it’ll take 14 YEARS to clear the 10,000s of tons of unexploded ordnance in Gaza!
https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1784545764087066979
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 22:10 utc | 541
US campuses under siege: view from ground with Momodou Taal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdWs90VNaqo
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 22:15 utc | 542
@Framarz
Ok so there is a shift to a multipolar world but, since China is bad, actually there isn’t, which is why Russia did not shoot an Israeli plane on its way to Iran because Pepe said so and Pepe is bad because China is bad even though that part about Russia in Syria is true but only because Iran made it happen. Is that an adequate summary of what you are saying?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 22:17 utc | 543
b shuts the site down when he’s not around.
In respect with his way of managing this site, this will be my last post and will stop reading all comments until he returns.
I hope to reconnect with all of you soon when b starts a new thread.
God bless all.
Posted by: Suresh | Apr 29 2024 22:23 utc | 544
Posted by: Suresh | Apr 29 2024 22:23 utc | 544
You’re suggesting it is not true that b is not around and still you are waiting for him to return?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 22:33 utc | 545
Ok so there is a shift to a multipolar world but, since China is bad, actually there isn’t, which is why Russia did not shoot an Israeli plane on its way to Iran because Pepe said so and Pepe is bad because China is bad even though that part about Russia in Syria is true but only because Iran made it happen. Is that an adequate summary of what you are saying?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 22:17 utc | 543
Try to act rational. When I accuse China, at the same time I provide you documentation. When I inform you about the background how Russia was engaged in Syria, I provide you documentation. Challenge my documentation. I can’t see any rational argumentation from your side to continue the discussion.
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 22:38 utc | 546
@301:
I should think that Greek is the oldest spoken language in Europe, followed, perhaps, by Irish (Gaelic).
Posted by: SLM | Apr 29 2024 22:39 utc | 547
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 20:23 utc | 522
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 29 2024 22:17 utc | 543
Population control requires narratives that suit the cultural matrix.
Did not Deng wear a cowboy hat? Is this news? Henry didn’t want to talk over wire because why? Afraid of US military intelligence listening in and preempting ‘the deal’? Whatever happened to Nixon Doctrine? Who took out Nixon? Who took out the Shah? Didn’t Stalin give the finger to Mao first? Why did RFK (that daddy) directly intervene to make sure Sadegh Ghotbzadeh (who had a political office right on Dupont Circle) not be deported to Iran? What is the relationship between US-China, US-KSA, Petrodollar, Watergate, and Ayatollah Khomeini? Why did/does IRI insist on spinning useless centerifuges? Why give the pretext for the sanctions? Did that Pakistani man really make out with atomic secret from Holland? How is it that underdeveloped nations like Pakistan and NK jump from zero to atomic weapons but IRI is eternally “one week away”? Is it true the the supreme leader speaks fluent Russian? Who killed Rafsanjani? What did Rafsanjani mean a year before his sudden demise that “Look at Germany and Japan”? Why are Houthis putting economic pressure on Egypt? Who is Elon Musk, really? He used to be bald but now sports a luxurious head of hair. Did he buy the hair transplant company like that dude on TV with Men’s Hair Club? Why are “public central banks” being pushed on us when the actual issue is the usurious mechanism that extracts wealth from society, nevermind who gets to spend it? Is it really OK to pay interest on money that never existed if the government gets it? There has never been mafia governments, yeah?
Questions questions questions. The obvious answer is unpalatable.
CBDC. COVID-19. Police State International.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein
Posted by: Eric Arthur Blair | Apr 29 2024 22:51 utc | 548
Must suggest the chat between Scott Ritter and Judge Napolitano that occurred earlier today. It’s good to see some genuine Conservatives talk about what’s gone wrong and what needs to be done to alter that course. I’m very surprised YouTube allows his show to be aired on its platform.
I’m very surprised YouTube allows his show to be aired on its platform.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2024 23:05 utc | 549
What a joker you are! I am not surprised. Who else is not surprised? A Gold Star for you!
Are you too an “ex-” servant of the system Karl?
Posted by: Eric Arthur Blair | Apr 29 2024 23:08 utc | 550
RE: “The UN estimates it’ll take 14 YEARS to clear the 10,000s of tons of unexploded ordnance in Gaza.”
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 22:10 utc | 541
Just a point of interest, Muhamood OD just released a video today, showing how Hamas took an unexploded missile from F-16 drop and reused in ambush against IOF. They’ve been using similar abandoned IOF equipment & arms. Guessing Hamas and other resistance groups will “re-purpose” the bulk of them. That UN estimate seems awfully high to me.
Anyways, here’s vid link if interested.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w6NDeFcgiOY&pp=ygUKbWFobW9vZCBvZA%3D%3D
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 29 2024 23:44 utc | 551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dILv4fMURKk
This dilemma threatens Israel more than Hamas. The Haredi are reproducing rapidly and are parasites.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 29 2024 23:51 utc | 552
fyi
from Michael Hudson
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/04/universities-as-tentacles-of-the-police-state/
Universities as Tentacles of the Police State
“….The invective “Communist” has been replaced by “anti-Semite,” and the renewal of police violence on campus has not yet led to a Kent State-style rifle barrage against protesters. But the common denominators are all here once again. A concerted effort has been organized to condemn and even to punish today’s nationwide student uprisings against the genocide occurring in Gaza and the West Bank. Just as the House Unamerican Activities Committee (HUAC) aimed to end the careers of progressive actors, directors, professors and State Department officials unsympathetic to Chiang Kai-Shek or sympathetic to the Soviet Union from 1947 to 1975, today’s version aims at ending what remains of academic freedom in the United States….
….Asked explicitly whether calls for genocide violate Columbia’s code of conduct, Dr. Shafik answered in the affirmative — “Yes, it does.” So did the other Columbia leaders who accompanied her at the hearing. They did not say that this is not at all what the protests are about. Neither Shafik nor any other of the university officials say, “Our university is proud of our students taking an active political and social role in protesting the idea of ethnic cleansing and outright murder of families simply to grab the land that they live on. Standing up for that moral principle is what education is all about, and what civilization’s all about.”……..”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 30 2024 0:54 utc | 553
Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | Apr 29 2024 19:09 utc | 514
I had to read this comment twice to make sure it was as retarded as it seemed
Somehow, fake-ecological militarist factions of bougie politics, addicted to private investment, and all of them sucking yankee cock to the hilt, are “modern day communists”
Nevermind all of those traits range from orthogonal to antithetical when compared to communism
There are stretches of the imagination and then there is this sort of mononeuronal anticommunist mania
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 30 2024 1:04 utc | 554
WSWS has very good coverage of strudent protests.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/04/25/fwco-a25.html
Posted by: Thurl | Apr 30 2024 1:11 utc | 556
Posted by: crone | Apr 30 2024 1:05 utc | 555
a low level one
no match for Karl
Posted by: ld | Apr 30 2024 1:14 utc | 557
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 29 2024 23:44 utc | 551
Thank you for the link, interesting.
Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 1:24 utc | 558
Stuff of nightmares:
Muhammad Shehada
@muhammadshehad2
Unexploded 2,000-pound Israeli bunker buster bomb in a densely-populated neighbourhood in Gaza; the 1st thing people wake up to & sleep next to
This bomb is a US-made GBU by Boeing
Posted by: Menz | Apr 29 2024 22:10 utc | 541
If dropped by Israel it is either a a Paveway 2 or 3.
The GBU-10 Paveway II is a GP (general purpose) bomb designed for use against buildings, vehicles and troops. It is basically a MK84 with a guidance package.
It is a general purpose bomb, it IS NOT a bunker buster weapon. Far too small for that and fuzing etc not right for bunker busting.
The Paveway 3 has a penetrator option, the BLU-109, but it’s not a bunker buster. It will penetrate concrete of buildings, hangers and ammo storage igloos but nothing extensive or deep.
These are made by Raytheon (which bought the line from Texas Instruments) and Lockheed Martin.
I know of none ever produced by Boeing.
The latest high speed variant, LGB is made by a joint effort of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
AFAIK, the Paveway 4 is not in the Israeli Air Force inventory. The 4 is made by Raytheon UK.
Defuzing this one is a piece of cake.
I have a feeling it’s already being mined for its explosive material by Hamas. They are pretty good at utilizing UXO’s.
I don’t know how Boeing got inserted there. The Paveway is a Raytheon / Lockheed gig. I have defuzed these and trained on them, never any Boeing involvement.
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 30 2024 1:39 utc | 559
@559
“I don’t know how Boeing got inserted there”
JDAM GBU assembly is Boeing according to :
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104572/joint-direct-attack-munition-gbu-313238/
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 2:04 utc | 560
@559
“I don’t know how Boeing got inserted there”
JDAM GBU assembly is Boeing according to :
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104572/joint-direct-attack-munition-gbu-313238/
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 2:04 utc | 560
Looks like these are about circa 2000.
And I thought I was keeping up, seeing as I was intimately involved in this stuff for years.
This is just the tailkit that came later, the bomb and other components are still Raytheon/Lockheed.
Do we actually know if it’s a Paveway 2,3 or JDAMS?
The 2 and 3 had no Boeing involvement.
Either way, good catch, I stand corrected, thank you!
I’m still willing to bet Hamas has already harvested the explosives and components lol! The fuzing is still easy peasy.
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 30 2024 2:29 utc | 561
If you want your daily Blinken gag, below is a ZH quote
Blinken has called on Hamas to accept Israel’s latest and “extraordinarily generous” proposal for a Gaza truce. “Hamas has before it a proposal that is extraordinarily, extraordinarily generous on the part of Israel,” the US top diplomat said.
“The only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas. They have to decide and they have to decide quickly,” Blinken said from Riyadh. “I’m hopeful that they will make the right decision.”
I am going to be extraordinarily generous and call Blinken an asshole.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 2:41 utc | 562
The Cradle has a posting up with the title
US beefs up illegal presence in Syria’s north
https://thecradle.co/articles/us-beefs-up-illegal-presence-in-syrias-north
the quotes
“The US began an additional reinforcement plan for its illegal bases in Syria, since the incident of the [Israeli] targeting of the Iranian embassy in Damascus, for fear of a response that would target its bases. The reinforcements included weapons and equipment,” sources told Al-Mayadeen on 29 April.
More than 120 trucks and eight military cargo planes loaded with various types of weaponry and equipment, including air defenses, arrived at the Kharab al-Jir base in Hasakah and the US-occupied Al-Omar oilfield in Deir Ezzor this month, according to Al-Mayadeen.
…
The IRI “focused its attacks during the last period on the occupied Palestinian territories and the occupied Syrian Golan in support of the people of Gaza,” however, it is ready “for a resumption of escalation in Syria and Iraq if it senses American evasion of the decision to gradually withdraw from Iraq,” Al-Mayadeen’s sources added.
Baghdad and Washington have recently been discussing a time frame for an end to the US combat presence in Iraq and its transition into an advisory role.
The sources went on to say that a withdrawal from Iraq “must take place in parallel with the withdrawal from Syria.”
Washington has expressed no intention of withdrawing its forces from Syria.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 3:00 utc | 563
I am going to be extraordinarily generous and call Blinken an asshole.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 2:41 utc | 562
Oh come on, why hold back now? /sarc
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 30 2024 3:08 utc | 564
@Id,
Jews are not a race, they are a religion and no religion makes a race. It is impossible for a religion at the point of creation/invention to make genetic markers which magically appear in followers and converts and disappear in those who drop the religion.
More critical, modern genetics says with so little difference, less than 1% between what was once called races, there are no races beyond the human race.
One thing is certain, no religion can make a race or racial group and that includes Judaism. Where religions intermarry, and many have done and do, they eventually die out because of genetic deformities. The only way genetic markers can be consistently passed down is through intermarriage and since nature does not like that and kills the group off with genetic deformities we can safely conclude there are no religious races.
In recent times, ZIJ, Zionist/Israeli/Jewish agendas have been working through family ancestry groups promoting the delusion that there is DNA for Jews, in particular Ashkenazi who are in essence, European Jews and particularly German Jews. However, since the same DNA registers for Christians, Muslims, Hindus and even atheists we can confidently conclude it has nothing to do with Judaism or its followers.
So, Jews are not a race they are a religion and like all religions contain people who are of all races, as once defined, hundreds of nationalities and thousands of different cultures. No different to Christians or any other religion.
One could perhaps make a case that religions because of their beliefs, create morphic resonance, an energy created by the group, which can manifest down through the generations and in those who have dropped the religion or converted to another. However that would apply to all religions and the trick would be to establish a powerful belief system within the religion which was then carried and transmitted by followers.
For Jews that would probably be a belief in their superiority as human beings, with non-Jews subhuman entities and a belief that they alone in human history have experienced persecution and been victimised. The creation of fake Jews, as in atheist/secular who call themselves Jews, might be explained by such morphic resonance. They reject the religion and its God but still believe the nonexistent God gave them Palestine and they really like the belief that they are smarter than other humans and superior as human beings. Hence the need to continue to call themselves Jews when they are not. An atheist/secular Jew is as impossible as an atheist/secular Christian.
Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains etc., would all have core beliefs which could create morphic resonance for followers and descendants. For those not aware of morphic resonance I would suggest you read up on the biologist Rupert Sheldrake who formulated the concept in a general sense…
Posted by: rosross | Apr 30 2024 3:27 utc | 565
There is NO GENE… NO MARKER … for indicating one is a Jew…
… or a Catholic … or a Muslim …
There is only ONE RACE … Homo Sapiens Sapiens
No Superior Human Being …
Enough of the hasbara … and all the lies of superiority and exceptionalism
Israelis are murdering Palestinians … Israelis want ALL ARABS removed from occupied Palestine… next it will be all non-Jews of Lebanon… then Syria then Iran, then … Greater Israel is to be the planet.
Posted by: crone | Apr 30 2024 3:43 utc | 566
Tuesday 30.April at 1500 local time….,
ICJ publishes its judgement in the genocide lawsuit against the German government.
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/193/193-20240426-pre-01-00-en.pdf
Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 3:45 utc | 567
ICJ presser
…… On Tuesday 30 April 2024, the Court will deliver its Order on the Request for the indication of provisional measures submitted by Nicaragua in the case concerning Alleged Breaches of Certain International Obligations in respect of the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Nicaragua v. Germany).
A public sitting will take place at 3 p.m. at the Peace Palace in The Hague, during which Judge Nawaf Salam, President of the Court, will read the Court’s Order.……
Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 3:48 utc | 568
crone 566
Well said. The Jews were chosen to teach Islam to pagans, but they chose not to do it. Anybody who spends any effort as a Muslim trying to explain or promote Islam to non Muslims knows that you cannot convey a message of peace with your tongue while at the same time sending a hidden message of arrogance and hate from your heart.
Wasting your breath. As to sending a message of genocidal hate by bombing your neighbours ‘ dwellings, institutions , infrastructure and families , this has finished the polite mask of USUKIS.
USUKIS will now be demolished. Civil Warwick now grip each of these countries as all anti- zionismism is banned by Political Parties as if we are living in a Nazi state. There is NO WAY Western countries will submit merely to being ruled by Nazis in this election year.
If you don’t like war get the hell out of the West. If you do like it, prepare yourself, arm yourself and tidy up your finances before all hell breaks loose when Nazism re-elects itself by algorithms. 1938.
Bin there, done that. Bring it on you Biden-Likud-Sunaks , what they will unleash is a Holy War between people of all or no faiths of conscience and the dupes of Mammon of all and no faiths.
Market god worshippers will see their marketplaces totally trashed and their Market god flowerpots smashed.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 30 2024 5:14 utc | 569
Archetypex | Apr 30 2024 1:39 utc | 559
“If dropped by Israel it is either a a Paveway 2 or 3.”
It looks like a conventional Mk-84 bomb body. It’s impossible to tell from the image what precision guidance kit was used (if any). Israel has many more JDAM than Paveway tail kits/completed bombs, and probably (IMHO) uses JDAMs preferentially so nobody has to laze the targets first – unnecessary when you already know the precise coordinates of the occupied family apartment building in Gaza that you’re about to destroy.
“It is a general purpose bomb, it IS NOT a bunker buster weapon. Far too small for that and fuzing etc not right for bunker busting.”
The Mk-84 body pictured is slightly larger (18″/46cm) than that of a (14.5″/37cm) BLU-109 penetrator. The Mk-84 has a streamlined, fatter-in-the-middle profile behind the nose. The BLU-109 body is straight (cylindrical) beyond the nose until the trailing flare.
“The Paveway 3 has a penetrator option, the BLU-109,…”
Probably more correct to say the GBU-24 Paveway III series comes in two main variants: a standard Mk-84 bomb body, or a BLU-109 penetrator body. Strapping a Paveway kit on either one makes it a Paveway.
“…but it’s not a bunker buster. It will penetrate concrete of buildings, hangers and ammo storage igloos but nothing extensive or deep.”
A 2000 lb. BLU-109 penetrator will penetrate several meters of earth and then up to 2 m of reinforced concrete. It is commonly referred to as a bunker buster. Confusion to many comes from an exception during Desert Storm where a larger version with *more* penetration was developed: a 4500 lb. GBU-28/B Paveway III guided series. MSM latched on to the term “bunker buster” for *that* specific bomb, but it’s a common term used for all penetrator types today (including the GBU-31s below and others) whether technically correct or not. The US has never admitted giving any GBU-28’s to Israel, but if so Israel wouldn’t waste them in Gaza.
“I don’t know how Boeing got inserted there. The Paveway is a Raytheon / Lockheed gig”
True, but the JDAM GBU-31 series use either of the same 2000 lb. Mk-84 and BLU-109 warheads. Boeing makes the JDAM tail kits, so anyone not a .mil geek probably figures all Israeli bombs are JDAMs and made by Boeing. I barely remember this stuff and would prefer non-military never have to hear about these kill toys enough/ever again to understand the details. “Israel’s US-supplied Boeing stuff kills kids in Gaza” is all anyone needs to know.
Wiki background on the 2 IDF brigades sent into replace the mauled Nahal Brigade;
1) Yiftah Brigade is a light infantry brigade of ‘commandos’. Weekend warriors. This unit has a long history of atrocities starting with a series of ethnic cleansing massacres in Galilee in early Spring 1948.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiftach_Brigade
2) Carmeli Brigade is also a infantry brigade, also made up of weekend warriors. It also has a long history of atrocities and ethnics cleansing starting with actions in Feb. 1948, 4 months before the start of the 1948 war. The Carmeli’s are named after their first commander, Moshe Carmel , who led the infamous Operation Hiram which was a campaign of massacres against 10 Arab towns.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmeli_Brigade
Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 6:11 utc | 571
Norwegian TV host takes Israeli spokesman apart, the way MSM hosts do not:
Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman
NORWEGIAN TV EXPOSE ISRAELI SPOKESMAN DAVID MENDER
https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1784989944009683390
Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 6:40 utc | 572
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
Attention job seekers. Never work for this man 👇, and remember that you should never compromise fundamental moral principles for greed or “employability”, no matter how much pressure society tries to impose on you to that effect.
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1784892154436882753
Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 7:16 utc | 574
Clare Daly
@ClareDalyMEP
The emperor has no clothes. The entire world knows it is Israel destabilising the region, committing genocide and lawless acts of aggression against its neighbours. But the European Parliament wants to tell a fairytale in which Iran’s the aggressor. Cop on. Nobody is buying it.
https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1784956494070329807
Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 7:17 utc | 575
Alastair Crooke:
– The US and israel has to spend $ 3 billion to defend Israel when Iran attacked Israel.
– As a result of the air defense disaster in Israel Netanyahu no longer talks about “Iran being a threat” and has shifted his attention to “Attacking Hezbollah” and “Invading Rafah”. It seems Israel has gotten the message that was sent by the iranian attack on Israel.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKXZNuWuv2s
Posted by: WMG | Apr 30 2024 7:26 utc | 576
@ rosross | Apr 30 2024 3:27 utc | 565
Kudos for mentioning Rupert Sheldrake’s work here in MoA.
Posted by: Memory Man | Apr 30 2024 8:50 utc | 577
Really good US perspectives, info attitude by Susan Sarandon in NYC …. what a rare special person she is. Respect!
“I’m afraid not fearless” Susan Sarandon: “The Zionist Narrative Is Being Challenged”
Susan Sarandon finds hope in the protests movement of students at Columbia university, speaks to how the mainstream media uses clickbait to push an anti-Palestine agenda, and explains that her activism is not fearless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y28O-a9l0s
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 30 2024 9:06 utc | 578
NORWEGIAN TV EXPOSE ISRAELI SPOKESMAN DAVID MENDER
https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1784989944009683390
Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 6:40 utc | 572
Well done Yama!
Still remember his initial report on October 7 operation in NRK (Norwegian Broadcating co.)
His journalist carrier just got a boost! Let’s hope that Norwegian PST (Politiets sikkerhetstjeneste) doesn’t recommend him as the new Nato Media spokesperson.
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 30 2024 10:49 utc | 580
Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 30 2024 5:35 utc | 570
Yes, in my day a bunker buster was well over 2000lbs.
I think it’s important people know exactly what these things are and who makes them, where they are sold etc.
If you want to boycott and sanction them or attempt legal action against them you need to know who, what, why.
These companies have lots of sub contractors that can be gone after as well.
Can’t take action without knowing.
Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 30 2024 11:15 utc | 581
@ Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 6:40 utc | 572
Funny how they all sound like toffs nosed , posh English public school wankers isn’t it – almost as though Zionism was an English Imperialist Dream.
‘We don’t agree with anything that comes out of the UN..’
your illegal apartheid entity as the last Anglo European Imperialist Colonial Occupation Project came from that UN ! Set up it seems just to rubber stamp that Bastard birth of a Nation!
Now there is only a stiff upper lip and a total declaration of being the only righteous people regardless of what every bystander and eyewitness says – that’s Chutzpah and it needs to be blown away like the smoke it is.
I’d like to have seen the interviewer getting into the full eschatological ravings of the most moral democratic deranged from childhood and militarised state ever to exist! Lol.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 30 2024 11:16 utc | 582
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/29/icc-congress-netanyahu-israel-gaza
also reported by
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/04/30/724635/US-Congress-retaliates-against-ICC-over-arrest-warrants-against-Israeli-officials
If the reports in these links are true, we might be seeing history in the making as global humanity struggles to find ways to check abuse of power by person, corporation or state that violates human rights?
The unchecked global power of the deep state to aggressively rule with absolute immunity versus the authority of the International Criminal Court to try, adjudicate, and punish those who abuse human rights. WOW!
Not since the Glorious Revolution (1688) has humanity been offered such an opportunity. It will be interesting to see if humanity comprehends the importance of this issue to its survival and acts with that knowledge?
Will those protesting human rights abuses over Gaza take up the cause that the ICC has the authority to try, adjudicate and punish those who violate human rights? Just think, protest will no longer be needed, just file a complaint with the court?
The life vs death question is will governed humanity come to the aide of the court or will humanity passively look the other way? This authority of a human rights court vs the power of the deep state to rule the world <=question comes a time when robots are replacing humans and access to the information the general public needs to become educated has been gated, fire-walled, and restricted to all, but the ruling few. The deep state restricts not only who can be educated, but also what those it allows to be educated are allowed to know. so Robots and humans will be knowledge domain specialized so they can perform the functions the deep state wishes, but knowledge deprived in nearly all other knowledge domains.
At stake, then, is the question "will the globe's humanity continue to be ruled by the corrupt few, or has humanity finally discovered a way to resist any power, any authority, any organization, any person that violates human rights, any where in the world?
If the court wins, human rights will be elevated to place number one in the hierarchy of things, but what will happen if the court losses its bid to assert its authority to adjudicate human rights abuses?
Posted by: snake | Apr 30 2024 11:19 utc | 583
579
Just because there are many people of many different faiths who admire the lying , plundering , rogue , British-expired, and US Empires , does not mean that the reverse is also true , that lying , plundering roguery is a part of any of these many faiths , Judaism, Paganism, Christianity, Islam etc..
That is Tolkein Lord of the Rings logic, that a Sorceror or an alien or a hobbit can ever be equivalent to a person who submits his/her will to God.
Those who admire British , Truculent, Empire savagery might indeed call themselves Muslim, or Jew or Christian but their God is in reality Imperialist criminality.
And their destiny is the same swirling plug-hole of the Imperialists. My South Asian neighbour once told me he respected the British , but hated us English.
Mendeles has changed his name to Mender as a reminder to us of his Nazi provenance.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 30 2024 11:22 utc | 584
snake 583
What will happen is that, like the planet earth occasionally changing its North and South poles , and its East and its West, the centre of morality and legity will switch to the Global South and BRICS. BRACE !
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 30 2024 11:32 utc | 586
“I’m very surprised YouTube allows his show to be aired on its platform.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2024 23:05 utc | 549
“What a joker you are! I am not surprised. Who else is not surprised? A Gold Star for you!
Are you too an “ex-” servant of the system Karl?”
Posted by: Eric Arthur Blair | Apr 29 2024 23:08 utc | 550
You are the ‘joker’ defaming Blair’s legacy.
if you don’t agree with Karlofi kindly please set out your objective counter argument rather than showcase your ignorance and uncivility.
@Posted by: snake | Apr 30 2024 11:19 utc | 583
Most interesting news, the US Congress is going to attack the ICC.
Truly, the world is dividing into camps, those that support Genocide
and those that are opposed to Genocide.
Posted by: librul | Apr 30 2024 12:12 utc | 589
Link to ICJ live delivering it decision on provisional measures in the genocide lawsuit against the German gov’t ( starts at 1500 Dutch time )
https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k18/k18k0ekqq5
Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 12:48 utc | 590
ICJ
Germany Skates Free – ICJ rules no need for provisional measures to stop genocide.
ICJ rules that case can still go on, but provisional measures denied.
Comment – Major win for the genociders
Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2024 13:18 utc | 591
No surprise.. the lebanese judge was part of the Hariri kangaroo court. It made no sense to deliver on Nicaragua vs Germany before South Africa vs Israel
Posted by: Minaa | Apr 30 2024 13:21 utc | 592
It made no sense to deliver on Nicaragua vs Germany before South Africa vs Israel
Posted by: Minaa | Apr 30 2024 13:21
How so? Has Israel not been violating its obligations as to the latter? What then is the ICJ’s justification to allow Germany to arm it?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 30 2024 13:49 utc | 593
RE: Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 30 2024 13:49 utc | 593
“It made no sense to deliver on Nicaragua vs Germany before South Africa vs Israel”
It was a ruling on requested “provisional measures” only. Not the “case”. The case is still being processed. Their request for provisional measures, which would have had an immediate halt on Germany providing arms ect…
It is still “open” to be revisited, more “proof” is needed. They (Nicaragua)needs financial records, or maybe recorded weapons directly tying German provisions to unlawful, genocidal use.
It is a tough case at the moment. But at least it assisted Nicaragua for their future filings against Canada & US.
The other issue that Nicaragua showed, was the withdrawal of UNRWA funding, contributing to starvation ect, which is why Germany reinstated funding as of 4-24.
At least the “provisional” request scared Germany a bit.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 13:59 utc | 594
It was a ruling on requested “provisional measures” only.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 13:59 utc | 594
I know. But if the ICJ cannot act consistently in regard to mere provisional measures, which Israel has been “ignoring”, it does not take much imagination to see how the “cases” will proceed once we get there. It would be a comforting thought that there is a logic to this but the power of the judiciary seems to reside in the fact that there is none. It used to be called “legal certainty” and “legal equality” etc but that is all gone with the wind.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 30 2024 14:07 utc | 595
“Truly, the world is dividing into camps, those that support Genocide
and those that are opposed to Genocide.”
Posted by: librul | Apr 30 2024 12:12 utc | 589
Look again.
This is much more than “genocide” camp.
Below is a “short”…what does it remind you of? The disconnect of these in their evening gowns and luxury..
The “journalists”…going in to get their reward dinner…
This “short” … clarifies the “us” and “them”…clarifies the uprising…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRHGgYt3rU
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 14:15 utc | 596
RE: Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 30 2024 14:07 utc | 595
This case, has actually never been brought to the ICJ. This is new ground, new legal territory. We have not heard even if the ICJ will forward the Case, all we know now, is the provisional measures were rejected.
Third party assistance in genocide, are difficult to “prove”. I’m of course agreeing with you, it’s more than obvious Israel is getting support, but you have to practically pull a German made bullet out of a body that was genocided, and even then, Germany has deniability of knowledge that it was permissible for them to use the weapon in that way. Third party “proof” can be tricky is all I’m saying.
I think Nicaragua will continue, and will strengthen other cases, or even this one,
in my mind, its not over at all.
The positive is that it is a reminder of Geneva Conventions. All signatories to it.
They do realize they can flaunt it all now and get away with it, however, there remains a veil over future shifts, enough for Germany to reinstate UNRWA and fly into Israel a couple of times, so good.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 14:42 utc | 597
Already news
“Netanyahu:
“The idea that we will stop the war before achieving all its goals is out of the question. We will enter Rafah and eliminate the Hamas brigades there, with or without agreement, to achieve absolute victory.””
Which just brings into the open what Hamas would already know. The point of his statement is to sink any ceasefire and possibility of further negotiation, by making it near impossible for Hamas to accept those. It is the opposite to what Hamas demanded, which was a clear long lasting end to hostilities.
In propaganda terms, he is saying “Hamas could have allowed civilian evacuation of Rafah for humanitarian relief effort by accepting a ceasefire”.
Hamas is “Israel’s” ‘excuse’.
“Israel” wants to destroy Hamas because Hamas would not recognise “Israel”.
“All is vanity” ?
I suppose we will find out soon enough if that is all too much for Hamas to accept.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 14:44 utc | 598
“Netanyahu:
“The idea that we will stop the war before achieving all its goals is out of the question. We will enter Rafah and eliminate the Hamas brigades there, with or without agreement, to achieve absolute victory.””
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 14:44 utc | 598
However Netanyahu’s statement also took away the possibility that US/UK could blame Hamas for the consequent slaughter, as was being set up by Blinken yesterday when he called the Israeli offer exceptionally generous.
Posted by: laguerre | Apr 30 2024 14:58 utc | 599
RE: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 14:44 utc | 598
Nuttyahoo is just saying all that nonsense for his cabinet, for his survival. Nothing else.
It works both ways, Hamas could agree to the ceasefire and hostage exchange and pick up arms again as well.
I personally think Hamas should just give Israel their POWs back, in exchange for, say 5000 POWs and no ceasefire.
Yes, that would give Israel a win, but it would give Hamas a win as well, compliance with the ICJ/UN Resolution orders to release the hostages. Now, the rest is on Israel.
The Israeli POWS are more of a liability at this point than “leverage”, as clearly Israel Cabinet doesn’t give a dang about “hostages”.
Hamas has to figure out their overall strategic move from here. After listening to the WEF and watching the spectacle on stage in Saudi Arabia, and the “plans” they’ve made for the “Palestinians”… I’d tell them all to “f**k off”, and widen the war. Saudi Arabia is one piece of shit, greedy, moral-less heap of dung. I suspected it, but never was it more apparent than in their latest televised WEF “gathering”.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 30 2024 15:07 utc | 600