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April 25, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-123
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Chas | Apr 26 2024 21:31 utc | 152 Posted by: john | Apr 27 2024 10:44 utc | 201 very unpleasant response. Your discourse is not what I come (have come since the beginning) to MoA to see. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 10:44 utc | 202 Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Otherwise you get this kind of attempt to connect too many dots and the wrong ones at that: Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 27 2024 11:03 utc | 203 Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 27 2024 1:36 utc | 173 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 11:17 utc | 204 (effing typos, sorry) does NOT seem normal to you as you Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 11:18 utc | 205 (lol, dbl effing typos) I’m NOT that worried about it, (aarrgggh) Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 11:20 utc | 206 From MEE: Posted by: JB | Apr 27 2024 11:22 utc | 207 Bbc radio 4 news reporting … Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 11:31 utc | 208 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2024 1:26 utc | 172 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 12:16 utc | 209 Lavrov’s Dog @ 209 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 12:26 utc | 210 Seyed Mohammad Marandi Posted by: Menz | Apr 27 2024 12:32 utc | 211 Paveway IV @ 148 Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 27 2024 12:32 utc | 212 Arya – آریا 🇮🇷 Posted by: Menz | Apr 27 2024 12:34 utc | 213 Robert Martin 🇵🇸 Posted by: Menz | Apr 27 2024 12:43 utc | 214 “of the original meaning of “begging the question” — the logical fallacy where a conclusion is assumed in the premise. Posted by: Mary | Apr 27 2024 12:46 utc | 215 Angelo Giuliano 🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻 安德龙 Posted by: Menz | Apr 27 2024 12:48 utc | 216 Posted by: ld | Apr 25 2024 19:28 utc | 48: Posted by: RJPJR | Apr 27 2024 12:52 utc | 217 Quds News Network Posted by: Menz | Apr 27 2024 12:54 utc | 218 RE: “Pity he was only “slightly” injured …” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 27 2024 13:11 utc | 219 219 Posted by: todd | Apr 27 2024 13:41 utc | 220 I doubt it’s going to be rectified in the West anytime soon, 50 years? Possibly you’re right. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2024 13:58 utc | 221 Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and other international officials will be in the Saudi capital this weekend for Gaza ceasefire talks on the sidelines of a World Economic Forum meeting, the WEF’s president said on Saturday. [ . . . ] Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2024 14:27 utc | 222 https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/04/worse-than-you-can-imagine Posted by: juliania | Apr 27 2024 14:35 utc | 223 Oldhippie and scorpion was right regards the strainge look about this protest, but for the wrong reasons, Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 15:06 utc | 224 Instead, praise them; stand back if you must, but praise them. Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 15:29 utc | 225 Part 2 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 15:40 utc | 226 The students in today’s world have a grand gordion knot to undo. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2024 15:41 utc | 227 Students in germany today Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 15:44 utc | 228 Who’s the moron that asked for “an interview (with the brutalized philosophy prof) while in custody”? Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2024 15:46 utc | 229 Scorpion: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2024 15:50 utc | 230 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2024 15:46 utc | 229 Posted by: james | Apr 27 2024 15:51 utc | 231 Hi James … Posted by: crone | Apr 27 2024 16:01 utc | 232 London street protest today Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 16:05 utc | 233 Don’t know where you’re from Aleph, but one informal meaning (out of several possible meanings) of the idiomatic phrase “begs the question” is “raises the question.” Posted by: Gene Poole | Apr 27 2024 16:12 utc | 234 @ crone | Apr 27 2024 16:01 utc | 232 Posted by: james | Apr 27 2024 16:12 utc | 235 When the powers that be start railing on the college kids, they are defending atrocities like this: https://folkpotpourri.com/another-imminent-threat-to-the-idf-eliminated/ Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 27 2024 16:16 utc | 236 I was born a ‘cage rattler’ … will die one. Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 16:20 utc | 237 this is a comment from unz. / it is a missing piece for me to understand why things have been heating up this way. There are a lot of boiling frogs: Posted by: swiss | Apr 27 2024 16:21 utc | 238 @ Mary | Apr 26 2024 20:37 utc | 147 Posted by: Gene Poole | Apr 27 2024 16:26 utc | 239 I plan to attend the local protest in support of Palestine today. Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2024 16:31 utc | 240 large scale protests must have organizers Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 16:50 utc | 241 The cops at these protests earn an extremly good wage as we know, you can bet their own kids are at university or will be going their. A genralisation i know. But. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 17:09 utc | 242 @ Mark 226 Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2024 17:11 utc | 243 233 – I was at the London protest. I noted a small attempt at a counter-demonstration by about 30 people with Israeli flags. There was a police cordon in front of them, but it is the first time I have seen them allowed on the same street as pro-Palestinian protesters. I am wondering whether they hoped someone would throw something at the Zionists, or otherwise violently react, and that might result in a scuffle justifying the banning of protests. Which some figures in Britain have been calling for, so far ineffectually. Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 27 2024 17:20 utc | 244 I guess someone didn’t like my post at 236. It was about the little Palestinian girl that was murdered by the IDF back in January. It got screwed up on my site and is 404’ed. Hope some of y’all got to see it. Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 27 2024 17:23 utc | 245 protest in Germany Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 17:29 utc | 246 @245 Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 27 2024 17:58 utc | 247 The usual realistic and fresh commentary by former israeli Gilad Atzmon on his Telegram channel: Posted by: The deadly tribe | Apr 27 2024 18:03 utc | 248 Some of you geriatrics around here are fucking delusional, man. Too much LSD back in the day or something. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2024 18:08 utc | 249
I would still like to know why Soros-funded groups are sponsoring this and supplying all the tents. Yes, the students may be sincere etc. but there are always many layers and levels in the mix. For example, their sincere zeal also makes them easy to exploit in order to help usher in a police state. Posted by: scorpion | Apr 27 2024 18:12 utc | 250 Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 27 2024 18:19 utc | 251 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2024 18:08 utc | 249 Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 18:24 utc | 252 @ The deadly tribe | Apr 27 2024 18:03 utc | 248 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2024 18:32 utc | 253 Imagine the hope that palistinans must feel now when they here about these protests. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 18:33 utc | 254 #212 arrested. Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 27 2024 18:34 utc | 255 Whether Soros is funding the student protests is of entirely academic (pun intended) interests. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2024 18:37 utc | 256 Yemen downs another reaper Posted by: ld | Apr 27 2024 18:37 utc | 257 7 October completely derailed Israel, and there will be no going back to before, obviously. Who would have believed that the same Israel that conquered the Gaza Strip in a day in 1956 and again in 1967 wouldn’t be able to reoccupy more than a small bit of it even after almost seven months? Israel’s first real failure to show its “full spectrum dominance” in its region was its inability to quell Hizbullah in 2006, but in that case no territory was at issue, and it was against Lebanese, not Palestinians. But now the Palestinians have done it to Israel as well, so no wonder the Israelis are freaking out. If Israel really has the upper hand, why are Israelis and Zionist so downcast, and Palestinians so triumphant? And the fallout from the truly big event, the biggest since the establishment of the State of Israel, is still in the pipeline and is just going to continue and continue. Posted by: Cabe | Apr 27 2024 18:39 utc | 258 I have seen that much punching at young and new protesters in this thread. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2024 18:40 utc | 259 You could use a chill pill.
This note is my chill-pill gift to you, Mary. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2024 18:46 utc | 260 RE: “watch a talk on youtube from the year 2000 by eustace mullins called: “only 1 political party today the Nazis.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 27 2024 18:46 utc | 261 malenkov @256 Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 27 2024 18:51 utc | 262 Tax payer funded, Federal law to spy on College Students: Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 27 2024 18:57 utc | 263 This explains a lot: https://folkpotpourri.com/we-are-sold-out/ Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 27 2024 18:58 utc | 264 I must say I am disappointed in those whose viewpoints I valued. They could not be better tools for Israel than any Hazbara troll creating doubt from within. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2024 19:06 utc | 265 a plan a conspiracy lockstep ask a nazi solution Posted by: todd | Apr 27 2024 19:08 utc | 266 “Houthis” – Ansarallah… more guts than Russia/China put together: Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 27 2024 19:18 utc | 268 crone@267….more directed than infiltrated these days….easy to virtue signal and direct traffic….that said, spontaneous Flash Mob Free Palestine movements in Malls and Parking Lots etc might be the way to go. Diversify the locations, reduce the amount of grouped participants, many small dispersed and coordinated protests, tactically mobile, able to pop up in unsuspected places might be the way to go. Spread out the enforcers. They act like wolves herding sheep. Big crowds are easy targets for the legally armed crazy bastards. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 27 2024 19:38 utc | 269 GREAT article on the crisis at Columbia. Exceptionally good info. Posted by: JAB | Apr 27 2024 19:42 utc | 270 Newbie | Apr 27 2024 18:40 utc | 259 crone@267. absolutely! “all protests are infiltrated.” Posted by: emersonreturn | Apr 27 2024 19:45 utc | 272 Remember that ultra-orthodox “Netzah Yehuda” battalion which, about a week ago, was gonna be sanctioned for “human-rights violations”? Surprise, surprise! Nothing came of that. Whoda thunk it? Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2024 19:49 utc | 273 Watched a bit of video of a police sniper on a rooftop overlooking one of the university protests. I guess those ‘anti semites’ are going to learn ‘democracy’ American style. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2024 20:01 utc | 274 The cameraman/reporter is behind police lines. He had to run a gauntlet of officers to be there. He is only there because cops want him there. In other words he is a cop. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 20:21 utc | 276 Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 18:33 utc | 254 Posted by: john | Apr 27 2024 20:23 utc | 277 @ ld | Apr 27 2024 16:50 utc | 241 Posted by: james | Apr 27 2024 20:23 utc | 278 Lavrov’s Dog @ 209 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 20:26 utc | 279 In britain at the start of the protests the polaitians were trying to force the police to arrest people with a palistinane flag or for shouting sloguns, the police realised to do so was pointless due to the numbers involved. They the police refused , humilyating the guv. The politians had failed to present the march as violent and supporting terrorist. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 20:29 utc | 280 Crone and Id. Cheers to us old women I love being out with these kids frankly their world is ten times scarier then mine ever was. We all need to support them in any way we can. This week I will be legal observing as our university is about to get some new live in students. Got my husband and a few friends joining in. Do what you can DU friends. Posted by: Susan | Apr 27 2024 20:33 utc | 281 Someone suggests the protests are not organic and suddenly people agree Soros must be behind them? What happened to Iran-backed? Or Putin? There is this thing called social media which makes it possible for anyone to be behind anything. That was the explanation behind Arab spring when it took place. I mean the first Arab spring (which then got hijacked to anti-Assad ends). This must be Arab spring 2.0. we are witnessing now. Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 27 2024 20:36 utc | 282 If you can’t go to protest, donate to Palestinian legal out of NY Posted by: Susan | Apr 27 2024 20:36 utc | 283 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2024 15:46 utc | 229 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 20:39 utc | 284 “Israeli Channel 12, according to an Israeli official: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2024 20:46 utc | 285 John @ 277 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 27 2024 20:47 utc | 286 I am back from the weekly protest in support of Palestine in my college city of about 60K. Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2024 21:07 utc | 287 English has been a decently expressive language. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 21:15 utc | 288 Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2024 15:46 utc | 229 Posted by: TonyL | Apr 27 2024 21:23 utc | 289 Huge apologies for breaking my own self-imposed rule of no OT comments. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 21:24 utc | 290 Somehow the Palestinians are accessing some news. They heard about the student protests and wrote some messages back on the sides of tents in Rafah. Also (god bless these people! There they are in the bombed-out Gaza Strip, no home except tarps, no food, no water, no medicine, and the dude speaking is praying the students abroad don’t get roughed up and arrested for supporting the Palestinians. Such grace!) Posted by: teri | Apr 27 2024 21:27 utc | 291 Meron base Hezbollah rocket and guided missiles, a larger attack. Click through to channel homepage and translate for updates on that: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2024 21:36 utc | 292 RE I wouldn’t go so far as to say they’re staged, but the certainly seem ‘managed’. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 22:02 utc | 293 Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2024 21:07 utc | 287 Posted by: juliania | Apr 27 2024 22:52 utc | 294 Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2024 21:07 utc | 287 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 23:02 utc | 295 @Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 27 2024 21:15 utc | 288 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 27 2024 23:21 utc | 296 @Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2024 18:46 utc | 260 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 27 2024 23:30 utc | 297 malenkov | Apr 27 2024 14:27 utc | 222 Posted by: Cynic | Apr 27 2024 23:39 utc | 298 Some of you geriatrics around here are fucking delusional, man. Too much LSD back in the day or something. Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 27 2024 23:51 utc | 299 I must say I am disappointed in those whose viewpoints I valued. They could not be better tools for Israel than any Hazbara troll creating doubt from within.
@ ld | Apr 27 2024 18:24 utc | 252 Posted by: simon crow | Apr 28 2024 0:06 utc | 300 |
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